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I let go of a lot of that anger and I don't know about the dad stuff and the life stuff and whatever. Just like angry young men. You know what I mean? That angst. And I started walking the city which was my favorite thing to do and I would listen to music. And I just felt like it was possible. Welcome back to The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show. Today we have Josh Peck on the show. I'm sure many of you are familiar with Josh Peck.
Josh is an actor, writer and the co-host of The Good Guys Podcast which happens to be housed with Dear Media. I'm surprised it took us this long to sit down. I personally spend a lot of time laughing at Ben and Josh's clips and their show. It's incredible if you haven't listened to it yet. Check it out. It's on Dear Media. It's called The Good Guys. We covered a lot of ground with him. Some of the topics include growing up at a young age in the spotlight.
Josh gives us the inside scoop of what it was like to grow up in the spotlight as a child actor in the entertainment industry. We also talk about his weight loss journey, addiction, cutting out alcohol. We get to talk to Josh for forever. He's really easy to talk to. He's fun. He makes us laugh. And he's just a great guy. With that, Josh Peck. Welcome to The Skinny Confidential Him & Her Show. This is The Skinny Confidential Him & Her. I make a mean bowl of beef.
So every day when we were talking about this off air, losing 60 pounds, how I did it is I would make a huge bowl of meat. And I just feel like my bowl of meat could win on your competition. Are we talking taco seasonings? Are we cooking it in tallow, ghee? So I mix it up. So lately, my latest has been a big bowl of venison and liver and organs. And then I'll put... Oh, you dare me? This is the one you're going to your meat. God. This is the weight loss hack.
Okay. And then I put raw cheddar cheese on top with raw farmers market honey. There's nothing better. And if you want... It's a hot sauce. No, no, no, no. That's a different bowl. If you want to do an in and out bowl, you use the special sauce from Primal Kitchen. You chop up some lettuce, tomato, raw onion, perhaps. You could also do a taco bowl of meat. Welcome to The Show, Josh. This is it. I'm excited. Come on, the periphery of that stuff. I can hear the raw dairy. We're going to get along.
But you're open to it because listen, I... We just had Whitney Cummings in here and I was grilling her because she's also in this con of her world. Hello, Dr. Craig Conover. Love you, Dr. Craig Conover. Yeah, you're shout out. Whenever I find anyone who's in the Dr. Craig Conover, what I'm like, oh, you're open. Yeah. Yeah. Because he will lead you down some paths. I'm down the clown. I'm ready to optimize. Let's do it. Let's try. You're in the rock club? Yeah. Do you do raw milk?
Yeah. So scared. Why? That's right. Isn't good. Raw milk doesn't hurt your stomach. But doesn't it... Maybe it has like the theory of what is it carry? Bachelism? I have been drinking it my entire family for the last two years and I will never go back. It is so good. You got to get it from like a reputable farmer. Sure. You want to know where you're getting it from. Which I will say, like, you know, the Wall Street Journal did this whole piece.
It was kind of, you know, it was like a look at these crazy people. You know, Lauren was featured in the article. You were? I was like, look, look. I made the Wall Street because it's like the thing, you know, of all the things that have happened in our lives. And I was like, you know, what's my dad going to be impressed? The Wall Street Journal. Like, we ever make the Wall Street Journal. I'm like, hey, dad, look, we made it. You know what's good? Raw milk ice cream.
Yeah. Raw milk in your coffee. Little protein, little carb, little sugar before workout. Great weight loss hack. Have you heard about the egg yolk and coffee before? I'm into it. Tell me about it. Just egg yolk, a little bit of sugar, maple syrup, and your coffee. Sounds actually good. Sounds good. I mean, it just makes it creamy. They make cocktails. I'm going to make this on my stories and tag you. These two. That sounds amazing. I bet it's good.
I tried it kind of a little bit of the egg white in it kind of gross. But next time, if I, I think you just have to be very careful to just do yolk. Okay. So it's only yolk. It's not the white. But if you have like a gin sour or whiskey sour, they'll shake egg whites and do it. And you probably not notice that. It just makes it that, like, kind of like cloud texture. Josh, what if you added raw milk to the egg? I'm open to the raw milk. It just scares me. And I'm a city boy.
I'm in LA. So I don't know. Otherwise, I'm going to have to like sell my first foreign to Airwan to buy like one picture of raw milk for what? 40 bucks. It's probably very expensive. That is one of those things that, sorry, Michael, I just don't look at the price before. Some girls by handbags, shoes, I like my raw milk. I have a feeling now, like Lauren gets excited about taking people down the rabbit hole.
We're going to go down the rabbit hole, but before we go down the rabbit hole, let's go back with you a little bit. I'm sure many of our listeners are aware of you, fans of you. But when you think back, what was your first, like what age were you when you first started getting into this whole wild world of entertainment? Well, I was, I was nine years old doing stand-up comedy in New York. Wow. So. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know. Hold on.
It should have come with like a membership to therapy. You don't just be nine years old and do stand-up comedy. What is comes before that to get you to that place? No dad. No one giving you. It's true. Is that actually true? Yeah. I mean, I had a very weird, I had a single mom. I was an only child. We were sort of like, I always used to say my friends with traditional families were like a corporation and my mom and I were like a startup. Okay. That's cute. Yeah. I like that.
And so it's no surprise to me that my trajectory has been sort of odd and weird and different than most. But I was a funny kid. My mom was like an unrealized performer. And so as soon as she saw that I had like a small affinity for it, she basically just poured jet fuel on it. And so it began. So how do you get on the comedy stage? She's like made some puppeteering moves behind the scenes. There was a, there's a newspaper for actors called Backstage.
Okay. Very popular in New York and it kind of has all like the castings. So if there's a theater caller, you want to be a swing dancer in the new Hamilton production. Like here's where the audition is show up at this time. So they'd also have agents and managers. So I'm reading it one day at nine years old and I see Sid Gold, the Gold Star Entertainment I represent kid comedians. And I went and met him in Times Square. Shout out to Sid Gold. He's still very much with us.
Love you Sid. Adopt me Sid. And he's like, if you get a comedy act together, I will put you up on stage. What's a joke you're telling at nine? Oh man, awful, hacky bullshit. Not good. Give us an example. I don't remember. I blocked it out. It was all terrible. But it was one of the themes was it like just. I made fun of my mom. I made fun of kids at school. I did impressions. I like, I did observational. And what to do with school lunch? No, I don't know. It was terrible, terrible.
But I was sticky and it kind of was funny. And there was a novelty that I was young. So I start performing and now I'm like getting snuck into catcherizing star, stand up New York, Gotham, all these famous stand up clubs at 11 o'clock in night because they don't want to lose their liquor license. So when this starts happening, was it sort of like a tumbleweed where you just got more and more and more and more? Yeah, I went to performing arts high school. I got like representation.
It was just sort of like being around it through osmosis. I kind of, you know, found a bit of success. How do you contextualize that as such a young person? Like how do you, you know, even now, you know, you start to see young people, but they're, you know, in their 20s or whatever it is. Like when you're that age, how do you even begin to contextualize all of this around you and manage it? I contextualize it in the sense of, I look it back at it now as a parent and go, that's nuts.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about like if my child in four years or five years starts, like that would seem insane to me. If I think about it, like if you were a 10 year old and you just really wanted to work at Chili's, it would still be ridiculous, right? Right. No, I just want to serve marks and make people happy. I'm like, I'm really in a sampler platter. It's like you would still be like, bet, Johnny, like when you're 16, you can get a week end or a afternoon job, but not right now.
But again, we had this very, people always of course ask me, and I'm sure they ask you guys like, are your kids going to follow in your footsteps? Would you want them to, you know, become entrepreneurs or become an actor? And I say, I want them to be happy, but I just don't see them. They didn't have the same set of circumstances waning on where they were in life at the time that I was.
Because if I had had a very sort of rock stable home, I don't think I could have moved to California to be on a TV show. How did your mom manage protecting you in the crazy wild industry? Like how does she even know what to do? Because now I feel like we've like seen a bunch of shit. And social media has exposed a bunch of shit. How does your mom at nine years old know what to do? I don't know.
I remember early on there was sort of like, I would go to these castings in New York where you would be like amongst, you know, 150 kids who all look like you. And you're there for three or four hours just waiting to go in and spend like five minutes for your audition for some, you know, Fruit Juice ad or some toy company. And I think there was always this, thankfully there was always this part of her that was like, you want out, we're out. Like you want to go, let's go.
Because she's like, I realize that this sucks. And so I think she allowed me to sort of drive the ambition side of it. And it gave me a lot of self confidence and whatnot. I think I was lucky in that sense. But I think I was very lucky in that way for sure. It's interesting because every person who acted when they were a child, nothing was creepy like it was normal. Because that, that their parents said you can get out whenever you want.
The ones that have come on here that have had like a bad memory or a bad moment have all said that their parent was like a stage mom or a stage dad. And even Jeanette McCarthy. Jeanette McCarty. McCarty. Yeah, she's amazing. Her book is so good. Incredible. It's a good book. Incredible. And she and her, her books called I'm glad my mom died. And in it, the whole book, her mom is so up her ass to do the acting, to push her into singing, to push her.
But it sounds like the key that's the common denominator is for the parent to say, if you want to walk away, we can walk away. I think the key and not just subject to entertainment is having a parent who is healthy in that regard that like supports her kid. It's not just an entertainment, right? You've seen crazy football dads who go and punch out a referee with eight-year-old Peewee games. They're my favorite TikTok clips. TikTok clips. But this one one's good. But what are you doing?
You're crushing your kid. You're crushing their spirit. So we see it in every sense, whether it's music or academics or sports. I think people like Jeanette was incredibly brave and the way she was able to articulate in her book that it was able to resonate with so many people, I think, was just it's such a accue and a testament to her and her talent and ability.
And I think inevitably in the industry, so many more safeguards need to be put in place and have been put in place since we were there. But so much more needs to continue to get safer and stronger and redundancies and safeguards and overlooks so that we know that if we're going to allow young people to be in business, that they are protected at all times. What was your personal life when you were doing all this at that age?
Were you able to go and run around with the other kids or go to school in a normal way? Or was it just you were on set? Because I imagine that would be, it's normal for you, but when I look back, that would seem very abnormal. It was, I mean, I was lucky in the sense that there wasn't social media. So I literally was going and doing this job during the day that I, you know, I love that kind of comedy.
I always say I grew up where my best friends were like the fresh principal heir and Ace Ventura and Billy Madison. I love watching family matters and we were all in that same age group of like TGIF and those great sitcoms and there's something, there's some quote where, you know, comedy is justice because in a drama, what I like, you're allowed to not like and vice versa. When a joke gets a laugh, it's clear, right? It either was or wasn't funny.
And what I loved about sitcoms was that instant like, oh, the audience loved it. So I really enjoyed getting to do that kind of comedy, but then I would go home at five o'clock and I lived in like a little apartment in the valley and I had my best friend who, you know, was going to normal high school and we would like eat, you know, microwave pizza and watch hockey games at his house. So I was sort of living in these two worlds of painfully normal and then very odd and abnormal.
What was your first big break that you had when you were a kid and was it like, was it like this eureka moment or was it not that? I did this movie called Snow Day for Nickelodeon and I remember they called me and they were like, this time I auditioned at Nickelodeon three times a week or something commercial, a TV show, something that they had at that time. But I booked this movie and it's Chevy Chase and it's four months in Canada and it was like my first proper job.
And I just remember being on that set and thinking like, oh, I couldn't, if this is it, I like this. And what was it like? What was like being on set with Chevy Chase? I can't really speak to what I can't speak to is being in a hotel room with a $100 room service a lot, man, a day. I was like, this is as lit as one could be like, this is incredible.
Like, and you become a family and acting or I should say movies, especially like you are this weird traveling circus of of gypsies of these people that are like, you know, together making this thing and they're mostly away from their families and they're, you know, you're spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day with each other. So you get really close and then you've no one to hang out with after. So you all go out to dinner after and I love that because I was an only child like I loved having friends.
And would your mom travel with you when you were this age? Sure. So she would. So it wasn't just you out because I'm, you know, a lot of actors just go out and leave the family. But your mom would actually come with you. Yes. What are the micro moments before you were like 16 that you can pinpoint that were just like big moments for you in your career?
Oh, I think like obviously, you know, getting a role that brought me out to California and move out in New York when I was 14 and, you know, on the Amanda show with Amanda Bines who's like the greatest ever like, I love that show. Arguably one of our most talented performers I think ever, I would say and getting to be around her and learn from her.
I mean, we were, she's a bit older than me, but, you know, it was truly going from like the minor leagues of, you know, school plays and, and Janky stand up clubs at 10 o'clock at night too, working with someone at her experience and level. I felt very lucky. And, and yeah, I think that was, I think that was the moment because when suddenly you're sort of pushed into this place where you're dealing with people that are at such a higher level and you can kind of keep up.
Where it's not a totally foreign language, you go like, oh, maybe, maybe I can do this. Because you worked with Amanda and you also said earlier, you would put all these guard rails in place. You, I feel like you have a really different perspective. If you could wave a wand right now and you could tweak the industry and things that you would change, what are those things that you would change for kids?
I think it's what we talked about before just again, having, you know, immense safeguards in place in, in every way, in redundancies and, and having, there's just no world in which people on set should be completely and utterly protected at all times, no matter what. When you say, like, what do you mean? Like, like, when it comes to like the business of their money, when it comes to like just being around adults, like, I, I guess what I'm asking is I don't know what it's like to shoot a TV show.
Like what's the day to day? Do you just mean like being around the right teachers? What does that mean? I think it would, it would pertain mostly to, yeah, having great like teachers and the people who are on set who are like their sole job is to make sure that like the kids are having a good experience. Do they keep you guys on set for a long time? Yeah, I think you work usually like, you had to do school and then you had to be on set as well. All day.
It's a lot of work that we were joking with. One night I did a commercial recently and like, and even for 60, you know, 60 Saturday and it's like an all day thing and we're used to doing this. That's what you know, it's different. It's different. Or like picking up a phone and doing this. You know, it's like, it's normal for you, but it's, it's not like for someone that's never been on set. I don't think people realize how meticulous it takes to get one minute of content. Right.
Yeah, podcasting is let's, let's not mess around here. It's the greatest job on it. It's, but again, it's like there's millions. So a testament to you guys that you have found not only a successful pod, but a successful network and able to keep it going. But yeah, I mean, and that's what we found from, from everyone from Mr. Bees to really successful podcasters and everything in between. It's like the gatekeepers have become more inconsequential.
And we were sort of all brought up in a way where for the last 70, 80 years, like TV and movies and traditional sort of creative ventures had to be one way. Yeah, there was a few people that decided who got the shine and who didn't. Yeah. Let me ask you a different question, like kind of on a tangent here, when you start to have success at that early of an age and you're making that kind of money, that young, how are you able to be responsible or were you not?
Do the wheels fall off or do you, your response, like how do you manage that success and that notoriety, that young? Oh, we didn't make a lot of money. So that helped. And I mean, it was, yeah, yeah, we're known. But it was like, again, there's no social media, right? So you're kind of like known to 13 year olds. So it's very like you can sort of, I found at least for me, I was able to sort of navigate it in a way where I was able to keep some semblance of self.
And I was also like heavier and insecure. And in an interesting way, I think that was the silver lining, like it was sort of my guardian angel because it kept me from ever becoming too impressed with myself. Huh, that's so interesting. If you would have asked me when I was watching Nickelodeon, like little girl, all the shows, I would have said you guys are like multi millionaires. No, not, I mean, I can only speak to myself, but that was not my experience.
When you went out with your mom and you're like out to lunch and are there people coming up to you all the time at 16? No, we could just go to cheesecake factory like civilians. Avocado egg rolls. Oh, what's your cheesecake factory order, guys? Um, do you like do they have raw? I know. I'm like, I'm not. I'm not milk cheesecake. Cheesecake factory. Well, milk cheesecake. Is it my, is it my, that's a cookbook? Are you going to do a cookbook? I feel like that's next. I should do it.
Is it going to work? It's called the bowl of meat. The bowl is one recipe. That would crush an Austin. I started the series on TikTok, a bowl of meat with me. You know what? I could do a lot of things with the bowl of meat. A bowl of meat up. I know how to handle meat. Don't you say my call? She's good at, she's a good meat handler. My cheesecake order. I don't know what my cheesecake order is. Cheesecake factory order is. I don't, I don't feel like we go there enough. Oh, heartbreaking. I know.
What's your, do you guys have like a chain restaurant you frequent? Oh, yeah. What's our chain restaurant we frequent? Um, let's get down. Let's get into the nitty-gritty. I love Javier's. That's not a chain restaurant. I love, I love, um, he changed. Does the bowl lounge count? He changes his grade. Come on, a songpepper calamari with a brown rice. That's delicious. I also love McDonald's. I fuck with McDonald's. Taco Bell. I, McDonald's, a cheeseburger just cheese and meat. Happy meal.
I don't care what anyone says. I used to work McDonald's. I love a number one big Mac meal. I never, like I don't care. Big Mac meal with a side of 10 nuggets. I can make a big Mac meatball. You can make a big Mac meatball? Meatball. Meatball. I believe that. That sounds good. And totally carnivore for the most part? No, I eat, I eat sourdough toast every night. Yeah. Why at night? Um, I know this is actually what it is. This is, I actually have a whole theory around it that I've never told you.
I feel like I've worked so hard during the day and I put my work in and I've done everything at like that I need to do like work wise. And then when I get home and I'm in bed completely relaxed, my kids are asleep. There is nothing better than crunching a piece of sourdough. It's like, it's a nightcap. There's nothing worse than laying in the crumbs after it. I can't figure it out. You lay in the crumbs. Yeah. She eats, there's crumbs everywhere. That's nuts. That's what he nuts. In bed. In bed.
Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, it's too much on the couch. Nope. And then she gives us our four year old daughter and they like have a daughter and mother and boy. We have, it's called our slumber party and we have toast and bread. I come home and there's crumbs everywhere. Salad or crumbs? Sometimes we'll do cinnamon raisin with raw butter and flirty salsa. Good for you. Same here, but for us it's Cheetos. No, I'm great. I'm great. Cheetos is a hot Cheeto with the red Cheetos. What do you love a Cheeto?
Of course I love a Cheeto. I like the spicy hot ones, the flaming hot, but the problem is that there's evidence right? Because these three fingers, they're going to be red for 18 to 36 hours. They're going to be red. Yeah, you also don't want to give a hand job after them. Totally. Oh my God. It's like if you had, it really disrupts his tiger bomb on your hand. Can you imagine? Yeah, imagine. If you, you see Bengue is looved. That would be, yeah. That's that's crow punishment.
I had a buddy that one time made jalapeno poppers for before you took this woman, this girl on the date and he got all the jalapeno oil everywhere. He finger banger. No. Like people knew what he did, but it was a whole, it was a whole time. Okay, well, let's talk a second. Let's timeline here. Let's get forensic about it.
Okay. So he makes a jalapeno poppers around four, four, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you just made him there like he had over his house and he made the jalapeno poppers. Which by the way, that's a wild dish to select when you're courting a lady. That's something I would turn on. If you turn on is, you know, bubblegates. But he didn't know that you could get the jalapeno oil on your fingers and that the jalapeno oil, which he had to turn. And then he didn't wash after.
No. Not well enough. And then they got what during the frying, they got all jazzed up and began. I think I think they ate the meal and then the oil was all over. There was a post hooking up with the jalapeno poppers. I guess that's dangerous. Wild time. Wild time. That's being done. Wild time. That's being done. That's being done. And the girl was like really freaked out because obviously like she's burning on on fire and he was, you know, a whole thing.
I need to hear about your weight loss journey. Okay. Transition. A hundred pounds that you lost without a pick. That's the new headline. That's the new headline. You lost it. So that gets you off. Not really. I wonder if it was available if I would have even taken advantage. I would have. Shout out. I'm just waiting for the Muncharo, you know, endorsement. Ben, my co-host on the Great Good Guys podcast here at Deer Media. He always gives me a shipper claim at Muncharo. He's like, it's money.
Like, sounds like someone on the shit. Yeah. I like, I, how do you say it? Muncharo? Muncharo. Muncharo. Let's talk about one of my favorite partners that has been a long time partner of the show, which would also be one of your favorite partners. And that is the farmer's dog. We spend so much time on this podcast talking about how to take better care of ourselves, our children, our families.
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You'll ever do it. I just over do it. I think I'm a big overtour. I think I had some shit that I needed to work out in my life with dad stuff and life stuff and I didn't know at the time that I was probably sort of like numbing that with weight. And sorry was your dad ever in your life? No. And did you ever meet him? No I never met him. And he passed away before I got a chance to. Oh, sorry. Perfect record. Wow. Yeah. Did you ever meet him?
No, no. No. Okay. So can you imagine if my parents were together but I'd never met him? No, no. I was saying like where's your mom pregnant and then he passed? Where's dad? He's downstairs. He was leaving alone. Like my, no, my, my thought was like they were together. She was pregnant. He passed before you were born. Oh, sure. No. No. He kind of had a sort of rendezvous. She was one of his concubines and yeah, it was a random night in New York and they did and she became pregnant at 43 and wow.
Wow. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. Well, it does make sense because you're here. I am here. I am thriving. I am thriving. It all makes sense. Everything's happening for you. That's what I say to myself every morning when I wake up. What are the other information? Do you have? That's my main one. Everything's happening for you. I believe that. I miss my plane. Everything's happening for me. Love that. It works. It works great. You should try it. It's so much frustrating.
It should be like 4.30 in the morning. You have to be at the airport in 30 minutes. She's like, no, I think I'm good. And I'm like, no. And then she misses. I'm like, she's like, oh, it's everything's happening for me. I'm like, you have to be up like an hour and a half before that. Sure. Okay. I'm trying to get Josh's weight loss tips. Everything's happening for me. Yeah, go ahead. Explain your tips. How do you even start? What was the first thing you changed? It's not. It wasn't that special.
I remember I was 17. I had just, we used to spend a month over the summer in New York. So I would go see all my friends and whatnot. And I just kind of started. I let go of a lot of that anger. And I don't know about the dad stuff and the life stuff and whatever. And just like angry young men. You know what I mean? That's right. And I started walking the city, which was my favorite thing to do. And I would like listen to music. And I just felt like it was possible.
And I did Atkins old school carnivore. Love it. And you know, and I probably knocked off like 30 or 40 pounds the first month or two. And then over the next like year and a half, I lost the rest of the weight. It's probably super empowering when you see that kind of weight come off that quickly. Right? Like you start to like, I can do it. Yeah. It's helpful. And it's, look, I understand why people are fascinated by it.
And I think for me had I done it sort of more privately or I wasn't in such a public place. I think I probably would think about it be less a part of my story because there would just be like, wow, you were like, we'd look back at your books and be like, geez, Josh, do you have a thyroid issue? And I'd be like, I had a snickers issue. But really, I lost weight very publicly. And so understandably, people are very interested in it.
So it's, and I'm glad if in some way me being heavier on TV could like empower other kids who didn't fit like the perfect body type or whatever to be like, wow, he's, he's having a good time and he's not tripping on how he looks. Yeah, well, I think people can see it's possible. Yeah. Right. And they don't feel like it's like a lot of people in other than anything, right? They just feel like that's for other people, not for me. Yeah. Right? And they see like, oh, so I couldn't do that.
Yeah. Or like, but they see someone who maybe they see themselves in or that they're related, or that's relatable to them, they're like, oh, if he or she can do it, then I can too. Totally. Totally.
And, you know, the beautiful thing that has come out of sort of like the last 10 years of really this body positivity, 180s, that there are all these beautiful body types and looks that are embraced and sort of, they're just very well, you know, people are getting roles now in ways that didn't happen when I was sort of on TV in that way. So I think that's great. And people slide into your DMs. Uh huh. What's the most? It's all bots. No, I don't believe it. What are people saying?
Are they like trying to hook up with you? Are they trying to reminisce? Are they trying to ask a question about a hot tip on how to lose weight? What's the common denominator? I don't know. It's, it's unhinged. I know that's why I can't wait. I'm pretty, is it unhinged? I'm very publicly married and happy like married guy. So I think people are pretty respectful of that and then it's a lot of bots. There's no butthole. No, are you in butthole? I've got a throbbing, Vainey penis multiple times.
Wow, mazel. What's wrong with us? I don't know. I don't know why so I don't, I've never understood my favorite one. I can talk about this one on the podcast. My favorite one was when I got one of a guy fucking a dildo on a bathtub ledge up and down. And that one was unique. You don't get it. That is unique. Got your attention and you're talking about it on the podcast. It was years ago. Was there, was it just the video or was there a caption? There was no caption.
It was just the guy fucking the dildo off the bathtub. It'd be nice if you put a little thorn in the closet. I could have done it hard like me just wrote whoops. Yeah, or like a wrong person. That's a good one. If you want to do it, you could say Taylor's telling that he's laughing so hard because he knows. There's nothing there anymore. And then there was another one that I got where a girl cut my face out of every single picture of me and Michael and implemented her face into it.
And then I had someone send me all these pictures that were of me, but with my face cut out with her face saying that Michael was cheating on me. That was, I mean, I feel like you got to get like an interest state. There's got to be a couple DMs that you're just like, shout out. Like crazy. Uh, no, it's random. Mostly it's people asking me to be on their podcast. Oh, it's a lot of podcast requests. Um, that one guy hits me up to be my to, he's like, you seem to need a jeweler.
I'm like, baby, I got two kids in a while. The last thing I need is a high end jeweler in my army dog. Um, maybe it's trade though. I don't know. It's like, um, yeah, the jeweler hits me up a lot and yeah. And then like a lot of rando bots. How did you meet your wife? We met at a Halloween party. What were you dressed as? I was just as a waiter and she was dressed as a pink lady from Greece. That's funny.
I got to tell you if a guy approached me and they were dressed like a waiter, I would find that very witty. How does he dress as a waiter? I find that what do you just carry the white jacket? Oh, okay. Like a waiter. I was a vane and a fancy waiter. I actually had gone to a dinner before and I'm like, what could I wear to the dinner that then would make me look, you know, I was working at the restaurant. No, I got off. I got off.
But, um, yeah, we just, I was vane and wanted to look cute and she obviously couldn't do anything but look cute and, um, it doesn't make sense why I got her phone number and now 13 years later we have two kids who are married and we've been together since. And you guys sound like you have a very healthy relationship. What do you think is the key? Her. Oh, yeah. Hello, no. Wow. That's a good one. Everything's working for me. I'm actually giving the same answer.
What do you think the key to the relationship is? What did my dad say? Like I don't speak and I don't hear. 27. Smart man. That's a smart man. What? I hear too much and I speak way too often. I don't know. We'll see what happens. I speak for a living. I think the stoic one in the relationship is that? Let's reactiv. Well, let's practice himself awareness here, Lauren. I think it depends which day of the week you catch either of us on. Yeah. I'm pretty, I'm stoic in business for sure.
Maybe less stoic in my personal life. Like I have, um, I look at like the business as like, it's hard to rattle me. Like I kind of, we've gone through COVID and all these different periods of time running a media company. Like I'm the whole time. I feel like I'm just like, okay, I don't, we'll figure it out fine. But the, the kid stuff, the marriage stuff and that, like I can get rattle on that stuff easier. Yeah. The more personal, I guess the stuff that maybe matters more.
I get rattle, you're right. It's fair. That's a good thing to care about. Yeah. Are you the more stoic one? No, my wife is. Why? Uh, I think she comes from, she comes from a family of athletes. Her dad was like a professional football player and they're, you know, Irish Catholic beautiful people who are probably a little bit more chill in the emotional department. And I heard Irish Catholic people describe as more stoic and chill, but what would you say?
I mean, you know, I smashed down their feelings. But um, yeah, my wife is pretty common, but she will get a little bit rattled when like, like I'm great when the kids are sick. Like I've also just always wanted to be a doctor. Yeah, so rattles me. She's calm during that. You like when the kids are sick. I don't like it, but I'm fine. You've been proud of it. That's good to put. I'm not sneezing on that. Don't expect love when his kids are sick. I'm not.
It's the worst, but I'm like, I can handle. I've got like a very, and this is not medical advice, okay? So I know they're going to come at me in the comments. But like, do you have those, you know, we all, a lot of people want them in, um, in COVID the, uh, the O2 meters, the oxygen meters.
Yeah. Yeah. And you know, ideally if you're above 95, like that to me as a parent has bought me so much peace of mind for just those nights where your kid like might be a little creepy or might have like a little bit, I know I'm going to get just delayed in the comments here. This is, I'm just saying. I know what you're talking about because we're, because for a kid it's scary when that's, when those numbers drop. Well, no, yes, exactly.
And especially like when they get colds or sinus stuff or whatever and they, they've got a terrible cough and you're like, should we should we not go to urgent care? Like those moments where I like see that their numbers are good. And obviously I call the pediatrician, I make sure everything's cool, but, um, it gives me a lot of peace of mind. So I'm like, okay, he's fine. His numbers are good. You need to buy one of those and check it. You have it. Okay. What was it for myself?
I like to go off my intuition. Uh-huh. Michael's a little more numbers like that. He likes to see the logistics the behind the scenes. Kids just like vomiting. I was like, everything's happening for me. Not for little towns, but for me. No, that's a stuff that like she's very good. Like what are kids get her second? I'm like, oh, she's like calm down. She's good at that. Oh, yeah, really? But like I would say, this is called a compliment sandwich. Go ahead.
But in the business, listen, in the business stuff, I feel like I'm more, I'm more calm than you. You know what? Whatever you want to think, I'm going to let you think. What do you think? I think that I am more even killed than you in every situation. Yeah. Oh my god. I'm not getting that here. Just as the top of this triangle. But I'm willing to learn more. What are you getting? What are you getting? You have a wonderful effort that sends energy to you.
And I mean, granted, this is the first time we're meeting. But every interaction I've had with Michael has been pretty stoic. Okay. But I look forward to having more interactions with you. I think if you saw him behind the scenes, he's a little, um, uh, I don't know what's the word. Uh, uh, Inpatient, but that's okay. Oh, I am too. That's okay. He's self-aware about that. Yeah. I mean, I, I'm no, I'm very macro patient, micro inpatient. True. That's, I'll just give him that.
I'll give him a compliment. For example, I don't think it can be, these are a buzz. I don't think it can be married as long as we've all been married to not, if you're not macro patient. Or I don't think you need to build a career or a long term venture if you're not macro. I will say that it works for him because he likes things the way he likes it. But I, I can't sit around and talk about the breeze.
Like, I someone's got to get, we got to get to the point of whatever, you know, whatever we're doing here. Yeah, he likes to get to the point. He's a get to the point kind of guy. You know, we did this, we do these prompts and we go to dinners with groups. Okay. And we go around and like a prompt to be like, they're called hot stirring prompts. Mmm. So like, you could be there with a new couple and be like, what's the best sexual experience you've had? Prior to your relationship with him.
Wow. Do you guys really do it prior to your relationship? Every single vacation, we go around a table of 12. We'll find out like, we get a big great together. It's fine. You'll come sometime and we'll do it. Yeah, you're going to come. And you get a head and skate. It sounds like, what was the other ones? What was the club sanctum? Yeah. We got on the show. He did. Wow. Is it still going? Yeah. Okay. He's got a new one now. I mean, I don't know. No. You're like, oh, what's the number again?
It's crazy. Yeah, he came on the show recently. But no, we do these prompts and like one of the prompts are like, what are your peeves? I feel like you and you and Ben would have great. You would have great answers. We could just go. What are your peeves? Well, you have to be respectful. Look, in 90% of situations, I think this is a sign of ADHD. I can predict your answer. And I'm pretty right. Seven, excuse me, seven out of eight, like seven to eight out of 10 times, I'm right.
And I would love to be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, so you're saying that when you ask a question, you can predict what people are going to say. Usually, or at least because I know my wife so well, there are many times where I can be like, and then what did she, so what did your friends say then annoyed you, right? But she's got to tell me about the restaurant. You got to just, yeah, we got to know every reason. Yeah, she's got to be in the jail.
You know, and you know what? So now I pause and go, of course she does, because I am or about my, I don't want to call bullshit, but I talk about my like work and stuff that I imagine she finds insufferable. So I, I want to hear it and then, and then she gets a little, little cherry on top. Yeah, I think that, that that's being married. That's a really good way to describe it is you have to hear each other shit all day long and you do start to know what they're going to say.
Yeah. I, I also know like, I've never told you this. I know like how to react when he tells me a certain like, or he gives me a certain mood. Like if he comes in stressed, like I now know how to act. I'll give you, yeah, you don't, you don't, you stress me more. I'll give you a good one. I know that when we're on a trip with our kids, that if I don't have things organized, the second we get in the room, that he's going to, he's going to start with his doing.
So what I've started to do, you don't even know this is the second we arrive, I start to organize everything. Just like it piles the vitamins are here, the frothers here, your weird creepy smoothie situations here like a froth there. Yeah, okay. Yeah, a froth. To me, you know, that's like that meme of like, if I win the lottery, I wouldn't tell anyone, but there would be signs. I got a hack, I Amazon. Most of the stuff is okay.
So for what, you know, we're traveling out with all the kids and I'm like, we get diapers and all that, you know, we got to take a traveling circuit. So all this stuff. You have a hack that's Amazon. No. Wow. This is a hack for the parents out there. Okay. Most places, especially domestically, you can get things like day of or day after. So I just know where I'm going and I have everything shipped to the hotel and to the carrying room. That's smart. That's Amazon.
But to the point, I travel with a little ninja blender, I have it shipped there. So I get there, so I got my protein powder, all my stuff. How do you do that when you have to go on set and you have two kids and a wife? Do they come with you? Do they stay? What do you do? Like if I'm traveling for work? Yeah. So the dream is to get a long-term job in LA, but it's nearly impossible. Like I was working on a show for Disney Plus for nine months over COVID in Vancouver. We're in a bubble.
We're in a bubble town? Kind of. I mean, Vancouver had such low cases. And so basically, I remember it was just my older son, Mack. So end of August, 2020, we get there. It's two weeks of isolation. So we get a house in North Vancouver, and it was my wife, her cousin, Sam, my son, and me. And it was incredible. It was like beautiful. And we just stayed in the house. We had a backyard, and we just ordered in food. And then it was nine months of work and testing three times a week masks.
But they were with me. And it was kind of wonderful. Like we had this amazing experience together. But it's funny because we got home April 2021. And then I got another job in Toronto in June. And I had to go isolate again for two weeks, but now I'm alone because there was only like a three week gig. She's like, you're doing this one yourself. So this time, it's two weeks just me in an apartment, much less romantic. I was averaging in that apartment, and I had a small deck, 30,000 steps a day.
I was losing my mom's pacing around. I would peace and take phone calls and watch TikToks. And like, I would just peace and listen to podcasts. You know what, though, if this is a hot tip for all lives, if you want to remind your husband, like how great you are and how lucky they are to be in your presence, a little absence is a great way to do it. Like what I do is I'll go away for four days. And I'll be like, yeah, I will. I did it for a bachelor party. You freaked out. I go away.
I don't know what it was. I don't know. Sometimes I'll leave the house and go to the foot spa for like eight hours and leave you at home. I think a little absence. Like that's kind of the biggest. It's a nice. It's amazing. You go to the foot spa for nine hours. No, I go to the foot spa for kneecaps. I get everything. Four hours, one person on each foot and I get to work for four hours. Oh, and you're in the laptop? Just all my laptop or my phone or just working.
So when do drugs and alcohol into your life? When I was like, what did you put on? At what point in your career do you start to kind of experiment with drugs and alcohol? Because in weird time, you've been a recovery. That's a topic that comes up on this show a time when we've talked about a lot. But when does that start to happen during your career? Funny enough, right after I lost all the weight, I kind of just feel into good. I think I think I had a new body, but the same mind.
And so it needed something to comment and numb it out. And that was the choice. Well, I'm 17 and I'm supremely stupid. As I said recently on our podcast, Good Guys to Miss Pat, I said, I was on everything but skates. So you name it. I was having fun. That's funny. It just quickly became, it went from being sort of 18 and just dumb. And if I was in college, you would just equate it to like just what people do and their knuckleheads at that age to being a problem.
And I was lucky enough to get sober at 21 and knock wood. I've been able to stay sober ever since. How did you know it was a problem? What does it cross the line from where it's fun college to a problem? I think what helped was that I had years of evidence when I was heavy. And as I said, I knew I was like, Josh, you overdo it. Like that was the thing. Like in all things. And so I had had all this evidence since I was like, seven, eight years old. And a lot of that terminal uniqueness, right?
Of just feeling like different than that. If I passed you in the hallway and I saw you, I was worried about what you thought. And if you didn't see me, then I was disappointed, right? Like I was just constantly at a state of discomfort. And so I found these ways in which to sort of numb those feelings, but it had diminishing returns. And so, you know, at 21, I think, I think, I'm going to have a lot of fun.
I think when I did it through sort of traditional 12 separate recovery, but I found these, you know, these rooms, these meetings of people that were like me, it was a watershed moment. Because I'd walk through my whole life feeling so unique and so different. And you don't get me. And if you had my head on your shoulders and you would drink too. But then suddenly I'm in this room of people and they're not a glum lot. They're like cool and happy. And they have families and careers.
And I'm like, oh, it's possible. But when you would partake, was it to go, was it to just numb out or did you go a party? And it was one of those things where like you crack one and like 15 later, you're like, I'm not done. Like what? Yeah. Every every trite cliche, everything you see. And like I always try to like, I try to talk about it in a general way. It just doesn't make for good clips. Sorry.
But like it doesn't, because you know, I know the way people like to run with like the the one line from someone's journey in that way. But again, for me, like I know that it could even be working out, right? I anything done in excess can become negative. And what do you mean the one? I feel like that's like, is that like media train? What do you mean? Like when you say like the one line clips, like you're saying TikTok will put a one line clip and they'll write a headline on you.
No, yeah, sure. Like there, there's certainly like a lot of, I guess my, my desire is not to focus on the thing, right? Because we know that like drugs and alcohol or you know, some people can handle it. And for some people, it's not a great thing. I always try to, to focus on the recovery aspect of it in that I had an issue. I overdid it. I think you could substitute it out with everything people overdue. I could get really into smoking cigarettes. I could get into overly spending.
Like you name it, right? So how do you manage that in other areas? If you know you're an overdoer? Well, I think it's like that, right? It's that spiritual sort of journey that is very unique to everyone. But if you have that hole in the soul, you'll use anything to fill it up. You know what I mean? And so I think it's you realizing, you know, there's a great quote of like there's two, the two most important times in your life is when you're born and when you realize why you're alive.
And so for me, that was like that moment of realizing like this is something that I can't fill with success because I've been lucky enough to have a certain amount of it. Couldn't fill it with, you know, cliche college experiences. I couldn't fill it with food. So it's going to have to come from the inside. Let me tell you about very, very cheesecake. Okay. All right. So I have a friend named Ellen and she makes the best cheesecake.
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You think a part of it is like you were self-sabotaging with the weight and then you stopped doing that and then you're self-sabotaging with something else. Whatever you want to call, I mean, I think you can give it a bunch of different titles, but I think the clearest one is I was, my mind makes me uncomfortable. The way I think puts me at a resting state of discomfort and I will use things to quiet that voice.
It was until I found sort of recovery that I found a healthy way to quiet that voice. What do you do now? What does your daily routines look like to quiet that voice and to stay in a good base? Besides recovery, I was just going to ask you, are there other things that you do on a daily basis or on a weekly basis? Yeah, I mean, I try to get a sweat in every day, just get those natural sort of endorphins and dopamine and serotonin. I try to do selfless acts and not get caught.
So I try to do good things and not get caught about it. I feel bad because I do put it on social media, but it's only to get attention to this great foundation I work with called Feed the Streets where we actually get up, we open up two sort of folding tables on Skid Row, on Tuesday and Thursday morning, we hand out donuts and coffee and food. If I start my day like that on a Tuesday morning at 7 a.m., there's a good chance I will have a good rest of my day.
How are you going to do that with your kids? We have kids that are about the same age. Do you bring them along or will you bring them along? What do you think you're going to do to show your kids that? I try to.
During the holidays, I go to the LA mission and we'll hand out food for Easter or Christmas and I brought my son for Easter and he's only five years old, but I'm trying to instill that in him and just this idea of like, I remember when he started to notice that sometimes people would take pictures with me, right? I didn't want him to be inconvenienced, because he only knows me as his dad and we're out having a good time at Dave and Buster's or whatever.
I felt bad that he might be interrupted, but I also of course wanted to honor the people who were nice enough to come up to me. I sort of sit to him. I said, Dad has a funny job and sometimes people like to come up and chat or take a picture and I was like, I'm sorry if it takes a minute or a way or whatnot. But we also get to do like, this is why we get a guide at Disneyland.
You know, I try to sort of say like, we also get to do some cool stuff because of Dad's weird job and he kind of gets it. The flops. Yeah. You guys know, you guys, you're not going general admission to Disney. You guys are getting the guides. You know, I just, it does me a lot. It does me a lot to me. It's got to be a seamless experience because if you, it's a lot of work to just go and just, it's a lot of lines. I feel like you have to go. The last guide ate my big pickle.
Oh, he's not over that. He grew up on a pickle and I looked over and went, where's my pickle and the guide was just crunching it down. I did. He got too comfortable. No, he deserved it. He was great. What is best by when? Tell us about this situation. It's executive produced by you. It's my new show on Roku. It's a cooking competition show completely based around or derp's. It's insane that it never got made before. Here's an example. We have six chefs. They're incredible.
Imagine every episode is, so Lauren and Michael want to throw a party and the theme is health optimization. You say, I want to use all raw dairy and we don't want gluten or whatever it is, whatever your limits are. Don't like seafood. Maybe you want it to be more a wrestling theme. Then the chefs are tasked with putting together 50 to 75 bites inspired with these guides from you guys. Then we have the party and the people at the party decide who wins. That's cool.
Yeah. Why can't they do bowl of meats, little bowl of meats? You should put the parameter. We'd have to find some very small ramikins, I think, for it to be a passable thing. But I'm down to try. A bowl of meats brought raw cheese, raw milk and bowl of meats. I don't know how many people are showing up to your party. What do you mean? I would come. It's a party party. Do you know that Paul Saladino came on the podcast and he agreed. He bring his own coconuts. That was wild.
He brought me raw honey. That clip is wild. I'm saying that he does travel. It is. We've had the pleasure of sitting with Paul a few times and he does travel with the coconuts and the money. What's so wild about the coconuts? I don't know. He got a sack full of coconuts. This is carry on. I mean, I don't think that's that wild. That's wild. Me either. No, he's, I mean, he's very interesting. He'd be a good guest for your show. Yeah, love talent. I would love to see a good, really good guest.
Paul Saladino, that would be. Paul said that meat essentially does the same thing that aosampic does because it keeps you full and it curbs your appetite so you don't overeat. Got it. Just saying. Got it. I hear that. Well, it's just if you increase your protein intake, you're going to be able to eat you're going to be satiated. I know. Who else, who else you guys into and who's on the periphery and who's on the outs? What do you mean?
Like, you guys, like, I feel like you guys hang out with Aubrey Marcus Salad. No, but Aubrey's not on the show. You know, is something funny? No. Because he's an Austin guy. We hang out with just like our friends that we've had for a while. We don't hang out with anyone. You know, it's so funny and maybe you'll relate to this. When you do something like this, it requires a lot of like draining the social batteries. Would you agree?
Like you're showing like, especially like we're just doing this lot. And so when we get a moment, like we were talking about Texas out there, we get a moment at home. We're just like, we're done. Got to kick the feet up. No, there's no hanging out with you. We love it. We love it. Love it. Love it. Actually, kind of boring. Like, you know, and I think people that come on the show are looking for us to be more exciting and the kind of thing.
But don't you think that's the same with you with Hollywood? Like if I were to say, oh, are you hanging out with, I mean, you've, you've, it says on here that's like, Kathy Bates, Diane Keaton. Yeah, stuck in Tom Hanks. I went five really Matt Damon, Robert Downey Jr. Like when you, when you leave, are you like hanging out in the Hollywood crowd? Or do you just want to go? Go to the top. Like just be chill. Yeah, dude. I mean, I'm 37 too. And I've got the kids and my wife.
And I find that I think that's a saving grace for all of us. To be honest, is that like, I love this. It's so corny. So forgive me. I love between action and cut. There's nothing I love more. I find it transcendent. Like when you're there and all your preparations there, and this is just a 60 minute action and cut, right? Like this is the moment. Everything else that surrounds it, I have little to no interest in. You know, we had, are you familiar with that? We got it.
You just said it way more eloquently. Are you familiar with Ryan Holidays work at all? So Ryan, I wrote a book. Ryan Holidays is a good friend. And he was my sort of book coach. That's cool. And your memoirs called Happy People Are Annoying. We, Ryan's been a friend for a long time and he was recently on the show and we were talking about this because he was like, you know, you get these opportunities to go and do the thing. And it takes a long time to do the thing.
And then once you get the thing, like you start getting all these like random opportunities where you get invited to maybe some of the shuores or the things. But that means like if you say yes to those, it means you're obviously saying no to something else like no time with your kids or your wife or like no time for, and I think like to your point, born and I get so excited about this and meeting the people we get to meet on the show. And then excited about time with like the other stuff.
There's maybe sometimes it's interesting, but it's less interesting compared to all the stuff that we actually really like to. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? And it's also, it's a lot of smoothing and a lot of this and that. You know, it's a lot of. I'm not a big smoothing. I find it. But you know, I always look through the lenses. Is it worth being away from my children? Totally. It's a no, and it's social.
I'd rather be marinating with a little bit of sourdough toast with a little bit of lured to sell salt in my bed. When a doctor, when a carnivore comes into town, we're going to dinner. Yeah. I'm dying. I never met him in the flesh. Oh, I know. He's the best. He's come on here a few times. He's helped me with a bunch of stuff.
But I, yeah, I've like, I remember because I have a small part in Oppenheimer and we got to go when we went the movie won the Golden Globes, we got to go to this party after the Universal Thru. And it was like one of those rare moments. And it was like me and some of the smaller parts people, you know, like the scientists and whatnot. And then they all, they usher us into this room for a great photo. And then Robert Downey Jr. Roxanne and Madden, Christopher Nolan and his wife Emma.
And it's just fabulous. And it was like, that was one of those rare moments. I was like, that's cool. I can't believe him here. I'm so glad I came because right, because when you went, when you have kids, it's like right to the last minute, you're like, I could not go, right? It's like, I could not go. Fuck. Yeah. You know, you're like, oh, and you know that like you, you'll regret it for, or you'll feel bad for seven minutes. No, you had to go to that. That's worth it.
And that was a, that's a worth it, moment. A gift and honor to be there. I made no sense being there. No, that's like a monument. I was like a cool. I'm a cool one. But I don't need to talk to a party up in a hill somewhere with a bunch of people that I don't really know, like Stan, you know, Stan around, like, how do I behave in here? You know, it's like, that I'm not interested in. I know, unless there's good gifting, unless you're some big free. I don't think we get invited to do this.
I'll say it. I'm just going to say it. Unless it's sanctum. No. Yeah, well, you're going to get to me free then. By the way, if you guys want Damon on your show, that could be another interesting one, because Damon came on here. He was a great guest. And he was a huge, you should have a month. I think more than I maybe passed our point of being able to participate in those. At this point, it just seems like it's opening more issues than we can handle.
Yeah. Wait, I have to ask you this before you go, why are happy people annoying? Like, what's the premise about it? It was my book agent thought it'd be a great title. It's a good title. It's a really good title. I, um, no. No, it was her idea. And she was, she was brilliant about it. But, um, I don't know, you know, at first I was like unsure about the title. I just liked it. And I felt like it was good for the book. And then now it's even grown on me in the last couple of years. I like it.
It's funny. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it's just because I always had this image of these finished people that were all walking around. And they just seemed like they got this manual on life that I never received. It got lost in the mail. And sort of finding my own journey of like, had a land and happiness or have some fleeting version of it that comes and goes like the weather.
Um, it's been my kind of life's journey and to feel that sometimes, especially those weird, I walked my son to school today and my little guy who's two years old was in the, you know, the, I call it a carriage, the stroller. And I like, and I just looked at the back of both their heads. As we're walking, I was like, remember this, remember this, remember this. And those are the moments. Those are the moments. Yeah. That's what you give the party up for to do those moments. Yeah. Special moments.
Josh Pack, you're welcome back anytime. Thank you. A lot of you have a problem, which maybe I might get shit for later, but, you know, we have a lot of great podcasts on do you mean I tune into you and Ben's clips all the time. I laugh hysterically. You guys are so good at what you do. Honored. National camera. Thank you for hosting us. We love being here. It's just great. Let's go. Let's go into meet bowl. I would love a meat bowl. Yeah. We could do like a, we could do a good guy's meat bowl.
I like it. I like it. Let me think about what would be in that. A lot of sausage. Finally chopped. Some kind of sauce. Yeah. A little ketchup for some ketchup. No. You can't put ketchup on that. Too much sugar and ketchup. What? Not in Primal Kitchen. What? Okay. So are you really doing McDonald's and Taco Bell every now and then? I do McDonald's every two months when I come back from a trip and I'm feeling depleted and I just want a little.
I used to work at McDonald's and there's something nostalgic to me about it. You know, it used to be a number two was the two cheeseburger meal, but now they think they've changed it. But the number one is always the big Mac, right? Taylor, they didn't change that. Always. I was one one. No, single cheeseburger man. My son. There's something about a McDonald's Coca-Cola and the nuggets on the side. It's like you can never go wrong.
I think here's, listen, I love Paul Saladino and a lot of people that come on the show. I'm going to eat a fucking pig Mac if I want a pig Mac. I'm going to live a little bit.
Like you got to, what I think sometimes with these guys and these girls that are so on this crazy health kick and maybe I get labeled that as sometimes with the people that come on the show is like my whole thing is if you're doing it right most of the time and your body is resilient enough to get rid of the bad stuff in your system, like you have to be able to do that. Like when, you know, I love guys like Cuban and he's been on the show when he says, okay, like how many drinks is too much?
And I know this is not for people in recovery, but is they go, okay, two is the Macs. I'm like, listen, man, I'm only going to have two. Like I'm not, I just don't want to do it at all. Like you got to live a little interesting. I have a big Mac. That's my thought on it too. You think, but too. Like we're going to go right. I don't have rules around the way I eat. There's no rules. Someone said, keep, people keep asking me.
You can't be so scared of a little bit of, you know, comfort food or poor food choices once. Well, give her that rigid. If I can't have a piece of sourdough in my bed at night, what is the point? What about a nice piece of wonder bread? Get real gross. I don't like a wonder bread. Of course not. I've never had a wonder bread ever. Does wonder bread sponsor any deer meat? We love you wonder bread. Wonder bread. We love it, y'all. The blue and the green and the blue and the yellow and the red.
Yeah. Wonder bread. But because sourdough bread is sort of like a claim just like if you're going to eat any bread, it's what is it? It's already fermented. It's fermented, but it's so good. Good on the bio. You don't think so? I love sourdough. Yeah. I get it from the farmer's market. Could you imagine all of us in a farmer's market in Austin with our children? Why don't you come to Austin? Have you been out there? Let's get a go. Let's get a go. We'll go to the farmer's market.
I was going to say, you know, you were doing, you guys were doing the kind of like the lockdowns and the bubbles and we, because you were guarding it's COVID and we just went to Austin and there was no COVID in Austin. Wow. There's none. They just said, wait, so you're already drinking your raw milk and having your raw butter if you're going to the farmer's market? You're halfway, you're like 90% of the way there. Yeah. Next time you come back, you'll have a glass of raw milk.
I'll be on tier teams. Yeah. I'll step it up. I know a little H.H. Why not? Yeah. A little Ipamerale. A Dr. Conever. Pimpum out. At Conever Wellness. We love him. He's a mutual friend of us all. Josh, where can everyone find you? Pimp yourself out. Tell us about where to get your book and where to watch your show and where to listen to your podcast. Good guys, podcasts here at Wonderful Deer Media available. Anywhere pods are available. And yeah, Best Bite wins coming out in October on Roku.
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