Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA ...
Aug 26, 2025•57 min•Ep. 46
Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA ...
Aug 13, 2025•1 hr 26 min•Ep. 45
Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA ...
Jul 29, 2025•51 min•Ep. 44
Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA ...
Jul 09, 2025•1 hr 36 min•Ep. 43
Ben and Jon wade into the spicy aftermath of Wes Huff’s conversation with Joe Rogan—because nothing says “good time” like theology and controversy. They dig into the messiness of apologetics, the limits of personal testimony, and ask the eternal question: how do we really confirm a miracle? Also on the table: is believing the Book of Mormon actually that much crazier than being a Christian? Plus, the rise of Rogan as a modern media juggernaut, a nerdy detour into the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a PSA ...
Apr 10, 2025•1 hr 21 min•Ep. 42
In this episode, John and Ben dive into the latest controversy—the Oklahoma “Trump Bible” scandal. Yes, apparently, there’s only one Bible now that’s deemed holy enough: the Trump Bible. Because if there’s one thing Oklahoma politicians want you to believe, it’s that the Bible is just a little better with a “MAGA” twist. John and Ben ask the big questions: Why this Bible, and only this one? And while we’re at it, is teaching the Bible in public schools a great idea anyway? Then, the duo takes an...
Nov 20, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 41
In this episode, John and Ben dive headfirst into the YouTube drama surrounding our favorite Biblical scholar, Bart Ehrman. YouTuber, known as Testify, throws some heavy accusations Ehrman’s way, claiming he’s a “radical” who is finding Gospel contradictions where there are none. According to Testify, Ehrman is bent on tearing down Christianity—all while hiding behind a “consensus.” Listen as they break down Testify’s bold claims to see who’s really playing fast and loose with the facts, and whe...
Oct 09, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 40
In this episode, John and Ben start by discussing President Jimmy Carter’s controversial view about Jesus and homosexuality. They break down what he said and why it’s caused a stir. Then, they turn their attention to the Epistle of James and explore the theory that it was actually written by Jesus’ brother. Is there any solid evidence for this, or is it just another biblical family myth? Of course, no episode would be complete without addressing the supposed feud between James and Paul. Was it a...
Sep 26, 2024•53 min•Ep. 39
In this week’s episode, Ben and John tackle the puzzles of Second Peter. First up, they ponder whether Peter himself could actually be the scribe behind his supposed second epistle. Spoiler: they’re not convinced—a fisherman with a penchant for literary flair? And then there’s the whole issue of Peter’s apparent plagiarism of Jude. Did he run out of original ideas, or is this just celestial copy-pasting? Plus, the duo dives into Peter’s casual name-dropping of Enoch. If Peter quotes him, does th...
Jun 18, 2024•51 min•Ep. 38
In the latest edition of their forgery series, John and Ben tackle the question: Did Peter actually write any of the works attributed to him? The evidence isn't looking promising. For starters, literacy wasn't exactly Peter's strong suit according to biblical accounts. So, does 1 Peter bear the hallmarks of a Galilean fisherman? Spoiler: not likely. And In their "Bible Says What?" segment, John and Ben explore the Gospel of Matthew to uncover who really gets blamed for the crucifixion of Jesus. ...
May 28, 2024•47 min•Ep. 37
Join Ben and John for part two of their exploration into the so-called toxic legacy of the Pastoral epistles. They’ll dive back into the ever-clear-as-mud topic of being “saved through childbirth” and, believe it or not, finally give their definitive verdict on Pauline authorship. Plus, don’t miss their Bible vs. Bible segment, where they tackle the hotly debated, absolutely crucial issue of Jesus’ donkey ride into Jerusalem. Tune in for what promises to be a modestly enlightening discussion!...
May 07, 2024•53 min•Ep. 36
John and Ben kick things off by calling out the idea bandits who brazenly pilfer their segment concepts without so much as a nod in their direction. Then join in as they dive headfirst into a controversy that’s sure to upset at least three scholars: the shocking revelation that the pastoral epistles of First and Second Timothy and Titus might just be Paul-free zones. Apparently, apostolic authorship is more of a suggestion than a rule. Then, strap in for a wild ride on their segment "Bible Says ...
Apr 30, 2024•43 min•Ep. 35
In this episode, John and Ben tackle the “who really wrote it?” mystery of two of Paul's so-called undisputed epistles. They dive into the issue of slavery in Philemon without pulling any punches, and they ponder over the seemingly unanswerable question: How many letters from Paul ended up at the Corinthian church’s doorstep anyway? Then they switch gears to chew over the U.S. Supreme Court's pick-and-choose attitude towards religious freedom. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? And, because we know y...
Mar 26, 2024•1 hr•Ep. 34
Ben and John delve into the complexities surrounding the authorship of 2 Thessalonians, presenting scholarly evidence that challenges its authenticity. They explore the distinctive differences between this letter and those universally accepted as Paul's work, shedding light on the nuances that fuel this debate. Also they examine the enigmatic character of the man of lawlessness. Plus, a fresh segment of "Bible Says What?"
Feb 20, 2024•54 min•Ep. 33
In part one of our series on forgeries in the Bible John and Ben ask, did the apostle Paul write Ephesians and Colossians? We dig deep into the scholarship and find some surprising info. But first we discus an exciting new manuscript discovery. Then later on another installment of Bible Vs. Bible, We look at a what could be a big contradiction found in the Pauline epistles.
Oct 24, 2023•1 hr 17 min•Ep. 32
Most people know comedian Julia Sweeney from her time as a member of the Saturday Night Live cast, but she is also a student of historical criticism of the Bible. She has an extremely “Hollywood” take on the literary production of the Gospels. John, Liz and Ben react to her amazing “successive draft” theory, where she see’s the Gospels as progressing book to book like a series of film script revisions, complete with added “pizazz” and exaggerations. Then John, Liz and Ben dive into a new edition...
Aug 29, 2023•1 hr 14 min•Ep. 31
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Aug 15, 2023•44 min•Ep. 30
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Aug 01, 2023•52 min•Ep. 29
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Jul 18, 2023•54 min•Ep. 28
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Jul 11, 2023•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 27
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Jun 20, 2023•55 min•Ep. 26
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Jun 13, 2023•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 25
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Apr 25, 2023•1 hr 9 min•Ep. 24
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Apr 11, 2023•58 min•Ep. 23
When you ask many evangelicals for evidence of their claims they will often cite a book called, Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. He is the influential author who has sold millions of books around the world. He built his reputation on being a skeptic won over to Christ by the evidence. For over 50 years he has provided evangelicals a resource to defend the Bible as historical truth. Are his claims substantiated by the evidence he presents? John and Ben are skeptical. They dissect...
Apr 04, 2023•48 min•Ep. 22
Former Fear Factor host Joe Rogan sat down with former MTV VJ Adam Curry about reasons for believing the God conspiracy. Adam, a new convert, discusses evidence for Christianity. John and Ben take a look at the quality of these arguments and analyze Rogan’s responses… which unsurprisingly all turn out to be either wrong or weak.
Mar 21, 2023•46 min•Ep. 21
Former Fear Factor host Joe Rogan sat down with former MTV VJ Adam Curry about reasons for believing the God conspiracy. Adam, a new convert, discusses evidence for Christianity. John and Ben take a look at the quality of these arguments and analyze Rogan’s responses… which unsurprisingly all turn out to be either wrong or weak.
Mar 14, 2023•46 min•Ep. 20
The “He Gets Us” campaign is a 100 million dollar plus ad spree. It’s designed to re-brand American Christianity away from extreme right-wing nationalism and into a more diverse and inclusive image. But ultimately the ads do more to highlight the vast difference between the Jesus described in the Bible and the evangelical church as it is in America today. Do these ads succeed? Who’s behind them? And what do evangelicals think about them? On this episode John and Ben break down the ads and try to...
Feb 28, 2023•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 19
Victoria Osteen and Joel Osteen helm Lakewood Church, the largest church in America. The mega church in Houston Texas rakes in tens of millions each year. On this episode John and Ben listen to various clips of Victoria Osteen and try very hard to understand why anybody is moved by her overly theatrical motivational speech. In our opinion, her content doesn’t have very much depth or grounding in the Bible. Until she starts talking about hunting monkeys with a banana trap. Yes, for real. (Stay tu...
Feb 21, 2023•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 18
Some Christian’s claim to have special “gifts of the spirit” that give them super powers. As it turns out their claims of faith healings are false and “speaking in tongues” turns out to be just babbling non-sense. However, the Bible seems to say Christians should expect to possess these powers. John and Ben breakdown the spiritual gifts controversy and see why many church denominations say the spiritual gifts era ended with the New Testament, even though the Bible never actually says that....
Feb 14, 2023•1 hr 9 min•Ep. 17
