Karen, Yes, why are you laughing? Alrighty, we just started. I know you had that big sigh. Well okay, this is going to be a deep one. Oh yeah, So let me get back to the question, Karen. Yes, wouldn't it be nice to have all the answers? It would be very nice, I would to be able to just tap
into the wisdom of the cosmos and finally understand reality in its fullest. Yes, if only we had a way to truly know and understand humanity's paradigm shift to a multi dimensional experience, or the mechanics of reality, or even the human blueprint. What if there were someone who actually had access to all those answers and a lot more, someone who would be willing to come onto our show and clear all the confusion about what humanity is going through right now?
Then I bet you would have reached out to her. Guess what, This episode is going to answer all those questions and a lot more, at least the questions we're going to have time for. Get ready, because this one is going to be cosmic. My name is Will and I'm Karen, And unlike moulderin Scully, believe so we've embarked in a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've thrown ourselves
into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep, all on the interest of finding something, anything, that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians, Ladies and gentlemen, Skeptics and seekers are like, get ready for an intriguing exploration into the realms
beyond our everyday understanding. I'm Will and I'm karens. And today we're honored to welcome Rebecca Dawson, an international consultant, speaker, and author whose journey into the metaphysical began with these spontaneous events at the tender age of eighteen,
a moment that opened the door to a remarkable gift of channeling. Now with over twenty five years of experience, Rebecca brings out wisdom and teachings from various facets of source, including Masters Syrapus, Bay, Saint Jermaine, and Katumi. She serves as a beacon of enlightenment, delivering cutting edge insights into humanity's
paradigm shift towards a multi dimensional experience. Having conducted over two thousand channeled sessions and hosted tons of workshops, seminars and retreats worldwide, Rebecca is also the author of four transformative books, The New Human Experience, The Game of Purpose, The Agreement, and Hm. I don't know if I'm gonna say this right, but Fu the Return of the Magnetic Human. I'm sure she's gonna
correct us. That's right. Today we delve into the mind expanding insights and experiences of this extraordinary guest on the Skeptic Metaphysicians, Rebecca Dawson, Welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm delighted to be here with you. We're delighted to have you, and I now feel so unaccomplished. It kind of makes you feel small, doesn't it. Rebecca? First and foremost, I'm so sorry about the snaff foo, pardon the pun on the book. How do you say? That? Is it? Foo?
It was perfect? It is fo? Yeah, I was one. I was also challenged with that one when it came through because a part of me wanted to say a different way. I figured maybe just error inside of caution. This is going to be exciting because we've talked a lot on the show about reality and the multi dimensional experiences and things like that. But you actually have been able to tap into some of the most renowned ascended masters, to tap into some of this wisdom and this knowledge, and you now have
your fingertips the answers to everything. Right. Well, I love the way you frame that. It sounds wonderful. But as we know the war, we know the war, we realize we don't know. So I have the great privilege and honor to be a participant in bringing these views forward. As humanity's consciousness shifts, we get a slightly different view that opens us up into reality because, as you know, our human minds can really grasp so much at a certain time. So I'm as curious about it as you are.
Well, this is going to be great then, because there's a lot of curiosity going on. I guess first and foremost, let's just put it out there. You are not a trans channel. You are fully conscious as you bring the information across, and perhaps a little bit later on the show, we might be able to tune into something like that. On the show which would be great, But I want to call out something you just said that our mind can't comprehend the true reality of us, for lack of a better
word, right of one of our oneness. Why do you think that is? Why can't we comprehend it? Well? I think there's a couple of different different factors involved here. One is the way that we've been taught to use our minds in our brains, through our childhood and through our education and
conditioning is through the absorption of information. And when we absorb information, we're only absorbing what's already available within a collective conscious field of humanity, whereas more and more of what's becoming available to us is coming up from within and out. So the human mind naturally will reject something that's coming from within in favor
of something that's already sitting in the external reality. So that's one reason it's hard to bring in anything new unless you have something within your memory system already to reference it against or check it against, which is why so many people when they have amazing spiritual experiences, or they perceive something profound in a meditative state, they have some reference for it in their memory system or somewhere in
the external very easy to either reject it or forget it completely if the mind
can't reference it to something. So that's one reason, and the other reason is that we are taught to use our minds in a very linear fashion, which means that everything's about moving towards into the future or referencing it from history, and most of the concepts we're discovering about reality and what we are really as beings and as cosmic beings has so much scope beyond linearity that our minds are only glimpsing one small sliver of what is actually occurring in any given moment.
We'll getting back to the first reason you gave. I can kind of understand also people not trusting that they're just not making something up. So that being said, I want to know, all of a sudden you had an event that all of a sudden you were able to channel. Is that, yes, like what happened? Can I have that in that? I'm not
sure if you want it. That's a very good point. Well, because it wasn't so much the cataclysm of that occurring, It was what happened afterwards, And how do you assimilate that and make sense of that in your life. So for me, I had always had a metaphysical interest as a child. So I was the kid that was in the library at lunchtimes looking at unexplained mystery books and things like that, because it always was always innate within me that there had to be more than this. It can't it doesn't make
sense to me that this is it. So I was always interested in metaphysics, and I started meditating classes when I was very young, but I never thought about I never thought that that was something that I could relate to or had anything to do with me, because my concept of being a channeler was, you know, much older men and women dressed in white, wearing big crystals, you know, in spiritualist churches, doing interesting trance things, and
I thought, whoa, that's definitely not to me. So it occurred for me very spontaneously when I was seventeen eighteen around that year, and I was just I'd always been very adept at being able to give advice to people if they were in a bit of a pickle. So someone came to me for some advice and I was sitting there with them, and all of a sudden,
my energy expanded so much. I felt like the marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters, and my voice changed and I just started bringing forth all of this information about past life experiences of this person while they were going through what they were going through. And it seemed like just a few minutes and an hour had gone by. That was the beginning. What was their reaction, Well, I'm luckily it was someone that I was quite close to, so I was
just like, Wow, they were sitting there writing everything down. They were really blown away by it, and it was me. I think that had a bit of a challenge moving forward with that. Now, you mentioned that your voice changed and things like that. So when you channel not being a trans channel, do you still make that shift or has that subsided? It has subsided a bit. My whole view of channeling has changed since I began,
like everything belief informs our experience. So because my earlier experiences was well there's my understanding is that there's other entities that are outside of you that come into you. That was my experience of it, and over the years, moving more deeply into understanding of younified consciousness and unity consciousness. I now speak quite often and teach people that to channel, it's actually going deep within and bringing an aspect out, which makes the process far more seamless. You don't
get the physical disruptions. It integrates far more nicely into your own wisdom and knowledge system. That's traumatic, I'm sure, let's traumatic and more natural, and it's not something that you have to require all the only special people get to do. If you understand how it really works, anyone can access anything.
I'm not sure what anyone, but the fascinating Wow, there's so many fascinating things about you, but one of the fascinating, most fascinating things about you is we could actually have separate interviews about all the different aspects that you touch on. We can have an entire episode just on your channeling alone, and maybe perhaps in the future we will. However, what I'm most interested
in this time is talking about this paradigm, this shift. We're all, I mean, you hear the buzzwords, right, we're all shifting from three D to five DH. First of all, let's set the table and explain what exactly when people say we're moving into the five D, what the heck
does that mean? Well, I can't tell you how wonderful it is to even hear people talking about it, because we've started bringing it through back in the two thousands, and it was such I had to really suspend all of my beliefs to even be able to bring this wisdom through because it was so far beyond anything that I could understand at the time. And we can see now how it's emerged in the collective field and so many people talking about it,
which is wonderful. But in essence, it's about expanding the spectrum of vibrational frequency that we're sitting in so that we can have access to more experience, more sensory capacity, more of the bingness of ourselves. In a very simple way, we would say that moving from three D four D into five
D means that we're no longer bound to a blueprint of set experience. And that's interesting concept because a lot of people think, well, we have all of this free will and all this choice, but we also know that into third dimensional reality we also have history that informs us. We also know that we have memory, we have what people call karma or past life experiences, we have genetic imprints, and this in itself is a whole belief system which
has made repetition the flavor of human experience. When we go through the same things over and over and over again. So the shift out of that and into this dimensional reality is giving humanity again the opportunity to actually create outly prints, create new experiences for all of humanity have a completely different set of possibilities that we couldn't see or experience before. So that's very very brief explanation moving
from set patterns into creation. So it's not like we're in a three D, right that's the second dimension is a line for example, it's flat. Three dimensional is as we know, you put on your three D glasses and things come that has depth. So four D five D not necessarily in the physical realm we're talking about. It's more vibrational and frequencies. Is that right,
Well, everything is vibration and frequency. How we reference it is materiality in three D. So once we move fourth dimensional reality is what we see as the cap or the membrane or the ceiling of our third dimensional Earth's reality, and that's time and that loop that brings us around and around and around.
So once we supersede time, which is why so many people are interested in being in the now, moment and in presence, because that's when we move beyond that fourth dimensional loop time loop, we move into fifth dimensional reality, which is now the creation state, which means that we now are no longer bound by time, and we are able to accomplish more, vision, more and manifest far more easily without that sense of process and laborious time that's
involved. So, as this shift happens, is it kind of everyone at the same time, or like one day and then someone over here and who cares who goes first? Well, see, now you maybe forget the rest of my questions. I'm sorry anyways that part. Does everyone shift at the same time or are some people able to have all of these experiences and other people just aren't there? Well, that's a great question. I think if we start to look at humanity as a collective, it helps us to understand
how this works far more easily. Because as a wave moves, there's certain parts of the waves that peak before the rest of it, and those are the like the scouts or the lookouts, and the rest of it comes along. So of course there are there is a proportion of humanity that's awakening to all of this, and they are the ones that are now creating the blueprints
and belief systems for the wave that follows. So another thing that p we'll often talk about with this earth shift or paradigm shift, is that perhaps there's two Earth. There's an old Earth and a new Earth. And this is a in the beginning, when we first started hearing about this, a really easy way for people to think, well, we're moving to something different and
we're having to leave things behind. In essence, what we're leaving behind is our limitation and our sense of identity and role as we begin to move into something new. So it's not like a rapture where suddenly you wake up and everybody half the world is gone. It's just that you're shifting vibrational levels and your reality is a little different, right, So as you shift vibration,
you shift into a different version of reality. So of course there will be people and loved ones perhaps you're moving out of resonance with so they begin to disappear and these tithes in your life go. But it makes space for people who are in resonance with you. So we're moving into a more coherent experience where we're not just tied to people because of history or because of obligation and duty and assigned roles. We're actually now creating connections based on vibrational resonance,
which is going to of course create a more harmonious experience of humanity. I was just going to ask you, how was that going to change, and if everyone's changing kind of at different times, I guess I thought it was just going to be this like kind of all of a sudden thing, But
it sounds like it's going to be more of a gradual shift. Is that, Well, it is a gradual shift, But let's explain it in a slightly different way because instead of a linear shift from here to here, if we look at everything as vibration and energy, so dimensional vibration encompasses a certain bandwidth like a radio frequency of possibility and experience, and we all experience each other in there. As you become more conscious, your bandwidth actually widened,
so you now can see more. There's more opportunity and possibility for you. But that third and fourth dimensional bandwidth still exists there, and so people that become more conscious and expand in their consciousness can now embrace and accept and love unconditionally everything that's sitting in those in those narrower bandwidth. So in essence, we're not moving from light to dark necessarily, or positive to negative, or from one end of the spectrum to another. Because that's linear, it's one
line. We're actually expanding the bandwidth of the line to encompass everything. So there are those that will expand faster than others, so that there are new things for people to discover once they begin to move out of that limited range of perception. And this is where the innovators and the real thought leaders are sitting on those outer, outer layers of the bandwidth. So how can someone prepare themselves. Let's say someone asking for friend wanted to be one of the
ones that expanded quicker than others. Well, I lo, I'm sure what you're laughing at you, but this is a very good friend I'm asking about. This is just such a new question. I want to do it really fast right away. Yeah, but thankfully it's a friend, it's not me. So if someone wanted to prepare themselves or help themselves to the expansion quicker, can someone do anything to get themselves more aligned with that thought process?
Well, there's a lot of I mean, there's a lot of thought around that, and there's a lot of people I know that are doing great things with encouraging people to eat well, you know, be mindful of their emotions and their thoughts. Our view is a little bit different from that because we tend to take the macroscopic you. We tend to sit on the outside looking in, And what we would say is that the shift is happening anyway.
You can't really accelerate the shift. It's happening. What you can do is give yourself permission to relax into it and know that as we begin to expand, you're not going to move into a place where everything becomes very harmonious and regulated and now I know where I'm doing, and now I know where I'm
going. The opposite is true. As you start to expand, you're going to move between feeling like a human that's in fear and anxious and on another moments feeling completely elevated and I'm not really worried about anything or attached to anything. So the more we try and stick to consistency, and the more we try to place ourselves where we think we should be, actually the less available
we are to the shift. Interesting. Okay, so let's say that this friend of mine is really conscious about following the path or being open but finds themselves losing track, getting back into the rat race, for lack of a better word, focusing suddenly on the three dimensional, on success, on work,
on the day to day. Are you saying that if I focus, if my friend focuses on work constantly and doesn't pay any more attention than others in enlightening aspects, that person will still shift Or is I going to delay the shift because they're not focused on awareness and openness and are instead focusing on the three dimensional world. Well, we can't delay the shift. The question is how comfortable do you want to get with it? And what you'll discover
is it's becoming more and more difficult to stay consistently focused on anything. So even if your friend wanted to consistently get involved with work and success, that would be disrupted quite often, and you'll move out of moving to disillusionment with that and then go into the I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. I don't want to be doing any of this anymore, and so you start to pulse in and out. So it's like fighting an inevitable expansion.
You can't stay focused on one thing for too long. This is what happens When you become more multi dimensional, you start to focus on many different things. But our idea of human success is all being geared into consistency and regulation and a particular direction or past. In fifth dimensional reality, there is no path. It's about getting off the path, getting out into the fields. That's where all the seeds of potential are. Sounds like being a mother.
You can't focus on anything. Everything's happening at the same time, you can't control any of it. That's exactly right, because we're birthing a new reality for humanity. So we're not supposed to be consistent. We're not supposed to know what we're doing. If we think we know what we're doing, where it's playing along a blueprint or a memory pattern or a set of experiences that already exists and it's already been done. And this is about being kioneer.
So we're not supposed to know what we're doing. I never know what I'm doing. So then the thought that is out there that says that those that are sowing division, perhaps it's because they're feeling the vibrational shifts and are very uncomfortable at it because of it, and are lashing out. Do you think well, there's two really two different pathways to expansion in the human reality because
we exist in a realm of duality. So the first is what we are really used to, which is conflict, tension, friction, and transformation and expansion from there. And then there's peace, grace, relaxation and expansion from there. But how many huing do you know move into expansion through a sustained state of peace and grace. I can't couple handful. Maybe maybe one or two, maybe none? Well, or maybe none. Isn't that interesting? So as a humanity, we have the option to evolve through either one of
those experiences. But what we're so conditioned and used to believing is that it takes hard work, practice, grind conflict in order to come to a resolution and evolution, and so that's what we experience. So there's heightened conflict and tension going on on the planet right now, and this is going to continue in the next few years because there is such a rapid expansion and evolution for
human consciousness happening right now. That's the way that a lot of humanity is going to choose to do it, because there is an inherent belief that says if it's not hard, it's not good. If it's not hard, it's not worth doing. And we do that to ourselves. We do that to ourselves. I'm not doing enough. I hear so many conscious people saying I should be working harder, I should be more productive. What am I bringing to the world because they're not used to doing it from a state of relaxation.
So I got to ask the question because it sounds an awful lot like you're saying that the conflict is really the direction we need to walk in. Is that right? Or can you find your way into five D by non attachment or not getting involved with the conflict, not being part of it. You can, But as Karen said, before you know you're talking about does
everyone move at once? Is a one at a time? There are those that are going first, that are doing it from a state of peace, and there are many who are hanging on who are going to do it through a state of conflict, but the shift is inhabitable. Which one would you recommend? I know why I oscillate between both states as a human I know we all do. I would I remind myself it doesn't have to be hard,
relax into it and go through it in a state of peace. But it also means that I'm not focused on the conflict and tension that's happening in the world as necessarily a problem to be solved. We're looking at it from the state of awareness of the masters. We're looking at it as it's a
push through into an expanded consciousness. That's really I don't know we've ever heard someone say it quite like that camera That could be a hard pill to swallow for the people that are in the middle of the conflict, the people that are in the Ukraine or Gaza. I mean they can say, oh, sure you relax, I might get barked absolutely to them. Absolutely, And it's it's with our compassion and our ability to embrace, embrace and love everyone
and not to see take side or see right as wrong. That's seeing humanity playing itself out to expand itself into a new era. And I have friends who are right in the middle of the conflict and they are doing their best to sit in peace and compassion and non judgment. And that's incredibly difficult to do, incredibly difficult. So much love and compassion and respect for anyone who is sitting in a situation of war or conflict. Yeah, it's hard not
to judge period, much less when there's conflict like that involved. But it sounds like what you're seeing is it goes along the line with what we've also heard in other conversations, where the key is just surrender, surrender and allow the process to play itself out. And whether the path of the least resistance or no. Well, I think if we really encompass that it's happening at such a great cosmic level, this Earth shift, it's inevitable that it's occurring.
There's nothing that we can do to stop it. It's a question of how do you align yourself with it so you can be the best version of yourself with it. And that's benefiting everyone man, that's benefiting all of humanity because how you show up in it, of course, is the imprint that you're leaving in this world. We need to take a break, but when we come back, we're going to turn our attention more to human capabilities.
You mentioned there's new human capabilities that are emerging during this time transition, and do you talk a little bit about new children and how they're different. We'll touch on that, and then we'll also maybe we'll see if we can get some of the you send masters to come through. Great. Well you're right back after these messages. Well, guess what. A new five star review has just come in hot off the presses from Apple Podcasts. Wanted to share
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but this time we are really getting our minds blown. We're talking about the shift from three to five D and what that on entails and the best move forward and things like that. Now, before we left, Rebecca, we had talked about the shift that we're undergoing, and you mentioned on your site that there are new human capabilities or capacities actually the better word, new
human capacities that are coming out during this time of transition. What exactly do you mean by that, Well, because we've only been able to sense our reality from a third dimensional perspective, As we start to expand our consciousness and awareness, we begin to sense it completely differently and feel it completely differently. And with that it begins to expose to us the real censorial capacities that our
physical body has and what our bodies are actually really designed to do. So, of course, as consciousness shift, we have to be able to sense reality differently. So there are many different functionalities that are starting to come online in the human body. Like what so the way in which we smell and taste things is changing, which is super interesting. We have an ability now
to hear well beyond the current audio range of frequency. So people are starting to hear, a lot of people getting reading in their ears, starting to hear sounds and different nuances of sound. That's beginning to help. That makes a lot of sense. You change, you shift vibrationally, you expand vibrationally, your frequency gets expanded, and so of course your senses will expand. That makes sense. Yes, is that where psychic sensors and things like that
come from. Then yes, it's they're beginning to really emerge. You call them psychic sensors. Visions. Visions are really common one now. I speak to people all over all over the world every week, and people are starting to see colors that they didn't know existed, and they have a difficult time describing that. Just flashing, flashing somewhere in the room, and it's like, oh, there's this color and I don't really know how to describe it.
It's a mix between this and this, and it's very fluorescent. So there's a real fluorescent nature to it, and a lot of people are talking about that right now. Oh wow. Skin and skin sense is one of the big things that's changing. Scientists are going to discover more in the years
ahead about how important skin is and what an intelligent organ it is. It's actually the interface between our inner reality and our external reality, and it has a lot of senses on it, So we're beginning to actually sense and feel
the nature of reality with our skin. So a lot of people are having It started out with waves of goosebumps that where people were having when there is vibrational resonance or when certain things are about to appear in your reality, feeling heat and cold very differently, a lot of people having heat running through their body and in changing the way the skin feels. We've had rashes, a lot of things like that. So everything's starting to come online because the vibrational
environment that we're living in is changing. So everything's waking up and beginning to be used in a slightly different way. In the book i'm reading right now, a book called Oneness, and in the book, it talks about as we shift into a new reality, we're going to find more species going extinct
because of vibrational frequencies don't match our new vibrational frequencies. Is not that they're going to extinct, but they're they're transitioning to the old Earth, whereas we're transitioning to the new and we're going to be finding new species that are being discovered. And I mean literally the day after I read that passage in that book, they found this new I think it's a lizard that they found somewhere.
Now I'm absolutely muffling this completely because I don't I don't remember where they found it. But but is that in alignment with what your thought process? Yes, yes, we've been starting this since since around two tw ten. That new species will be discovered because as our senses and awareness expands into a broader frequency of reality, we're going to be able to see and perceive things
that we couldn't before. So it's like looking through a very narrow passageway or lens and having the aperture of that lens widened, and now we can start to see and experience all these other things. It may seem that some things are disappearing, but it's also that our vision is now becoming more focused in a broader way that those things, like other species, still continue to exist,
but they're not existing within the bandwidth vibration that we are viewing. It's like the frequencies of light that we can see and can't see like infrared or something like that. Yes, that's wild. Yes, So how can you distinguish when it's that or when it's pollution killing off the animals Because a lot of people would say this is what it is. Well, everything within so dimensional reality exists within a paradigm of core An effect. So when something happens,
our minds nectually say, well, what caused that to happen? Whereas when you start to look in a broader sense, there is just one conscious experience creating and manifesting itself and fractalizing itself in a multitude of ways. So you tend to look less at cause and you tend to look more at what is happening and what is going to happen next. Some of these concepts are really difficult to look at because it makes it I don't want to say it's
cold or dispassionate, but the reality is what it is. But to your point, Karen, when someone might use this as an excuse to well, let's just keep polluting, because then you know, it's just us changing our perspective. At the end of the day, everything is divine. Everything's happening exactly. It's supposed to. Everything is perfect, right, So even the pollution, as much as we don't want it, it's really part of the
plan. Or is that not what we're talking about here? Well, there are certain certainly, as we suggested in part of a third dimensional blueprints for reality, is we have the same experience as recycled over and over and over and over again, and we have certainly had I think from what I remember the Master saying, this is the fifth cycle of a similar set of experiences for humanity, where humanity reaches a certain Percie peak of technological or advancement and
in essence turns in on itself and destroys itself. So we've been here before, and it is part of a pattern. So, but this is the first time there's been a shift beyond it. It's that that's why it's so important, why so many channels are around the world and spiritual teachers are talking about it, because it's the first time we actually have the opportunity to supersede
the blueprint, to actually move beyond it. So, yes, there's no denials that humanity is creating an awful lot of destruction and is out of balance with the Earth's reality. We tend to look at it from why is this happening at a bigger scale? What is the patterning in the blueprint behind this? Where humanity keeps doing the same things over and over again. Why can't we get past that? Why can't we evolve past that self destruction cycle?
And this is where we're at. This is the cusp. Now it's not going to continue for humanity because it's being done so many times before, and it can't continue. Consciousness wants to evolve. Oh god, I've got so many more questions. Now I don't love. I should be afraid or excited. Well, it's frightening. It's frightening certainly when we're so wired to predictability and knowing what's going to happen in history says this, Therefore the future is
there. We have come to become conditioned to be very comfortable with predictability and repetition. But actually the nature of life and the nature of consciousness is the opposite of that. If you look at the cosmos and how it's designed, it's more chaos than order in many ways, and it's just the human mind likes to be out of predict control. So it's frightening to think that we don't know what's going to happen, but it's also exciting to think, well,
I wonder what else is possible. So there's also it's also takes a modicum of release of control to be able to shift into the five D, because really, what do we really control enough? That's very true, we can control our perception maybe how we look at things. Let's shift a little bit to the new children. Everyone's talking about this new generation coming through who are so different and so much more in tune with those vibrational frequencies that we're
trying to aspire to. What makes them so different? Aren't they amazing? Well, the first thing we notice about these younger generations coming through is that they don't like control, and they don't like order, and they don't like regulation, and they don't like having to focus on one thing for too long. There's been a lot as more recent diagnosis in children with attention difficulties and behavioral difficulties, and I know I've certainly been through that in my own experience
as a parent. If you begin to look at the way in which this dimensional reality operates, it's multidirectional all the time. Nothing's meant to be consistent. It's a huge creation period where you could be interested in this and then this, and then this and then this, and you can't see any order in it or any connection in it. But when it all starts to bloom,
it all becomes interconnected and one thing. So younger children now, they have less of a desire to be consistent and move in a particular direction or part They have less desire to do things in a regulated way. The more spontaneous you can be with children, the more you can ignite their true sense of self, and they can really surprise you with what they come out with. They have incredible senses. Much like the senses we've been talking about.
They tend to be more what we call psychic because their senses are already adapted and wired to the life experience they're going to have. And you know, we're sitting in the middle of this shift now, on the cup of the shift. They're coming into it, so they're already wired really for what's ahead, and they like to ask a lot of questions. Gosh, that as parents makes the situation kind of difficult because you want to guide your children.
But if they're actually more evolved than we are, maybe they should be guiding us. Well, I agree, it's very difficult because especially if we're used to being raised with you know, regulation and rules and this is how you keep your children safe. I think one of the most important things we can do for children is is to really honor the wisdom within them and teach them how to listen to the voice within because they're conscious. Business is always going
to guide them in the best possible way. They have something innate within them that's like a GPS, and then there's all the societal constructs and rules of what you should or shouldn't be doing. So to always say, well, this is what you're supposed to be doing, or this is what the rules are, or what the expectation is. What does that inside you say?
And that way they learn to become very self guided early, and also learn how to negotiate with the external rules and environment too, because they still have to live within a system. To a certain incident, I do want to see if we can usher in some of the masters. But one question before we do that, because it struck me when I was doing research into you, and this is about talking about your leader's book fo The Return of the
Magnetic Human. You mentioned that Foo invites us to return the natural law and magnetic design of humanity while revealing the construct and coding for introduced systems of order that have become the foundation of a simulated Earth reality. What does that mean in a couple of minutes. This is not a short answer question. Let's I'll do my best. We may need to split this into two shows.
So, because we're used to viewing ourselves and experiencing ourselves in a linear reality, if we look at cer dimensional reality, almost like a grid system or a grid structure, we can look at how we move energy around the planet in terms of how we contribute energy, how we receive energy as a grid system, and so we have this paradigm where if I put in a lot of that's it. I'm going to receive something. I put something into the grid, I get something bad. And in a similar way, we progress
in a very sequential linear way through life. I go from this step to this step to this step. It also suggests that you are part of a connection or a network, and if one part of that network or connection breaks down, everything breaks down. You don't get the jew that you have. It's not an equal give and take. Let's say, it's not an equal give and take. As we know, the law of the universe is you know, as you express, you receive, and this is denoted in so
many different religious and philosophical texts. So we look at that almost like an electrical grid system. And that's where all beliefs lie. If you don't participate, you don't get to receive. If you don't get up and do your work every day, you don't survive, you don't progress, you can't be here. If you don't have a role to play within that, you're invalid. So once we start to expand our consciousness, we start to remember the
magnetic truth of ourselves, and magnetics are self sustaining. It was like a total system within ourselves. We don't need to be part of the grid that we have to keep donating energy too in order to continue our survival. Yet so much of what we believe we need to do to survive here is based upon a belief in, a requirement to participate in a system. If we don't participate within that belief system or that energy transference system, we cannot survive
here. Is that really true? Are we really sovereign as humans? Do we need to keep donating energy in order to survive. Interesting, isn't it. It doesn't even begin to show is shades of the matrix. Right, You got to unplug, stop giving your energy to the machines. Oh my god, I need to talk to you for at least another three hours. I've got so many more questions, but we promised the audience. I do want to see if, by chance some of the masters might be willing to
come out and say, hello, Sure. What we'll do is we'll just dive in and see what it is to be expressed. Unless you have a specific question, no, I'd love to hear what they have to say. I might have follow up questions afterwards. Greetings, we are with you. Your curiosity, of course, is the signature energy that will allow humanity to thrive and to flourish far more easily during this tumultuous experience of change. Curiosity
is what allows you to become non attached to what you already know. Curiosity also is the hallmark of the children that you have in your mist They are not too satisfied with what is already on display. They want to know what else is possible. And so, of course, if the question here is how can humans become more comfortable in what is occurring within your reality? We would say to you, remain curious because it is the spark of life within
you that enables you to be able to create more. Furthermore, as many of you are asking in this moment, how is it that I can and bring comfort to others? Again, curiosity is the key, because if you can remain curious, that sense of euphoria can begin to be felt by others, so they too can become curious about what else is possible in their lives. Is that not why you are creating this conversation and why you do what you do, because you are igniting curiosity and that is the spark of life.
It is the nature of consciousness itself. The cosmos does not expand other than to say, tate its own curiosity. It is the nature of who you are that tsuance have forgotten what their nature is. So you're saying that human nature is curiosity, But we've heard that human nature is the true nature of humanity? Is love? Is that at hons with each other? Well, we would say that love is the state at which humans feel that they are in peace and that they are in acceptance. And can embrace all things.
We would say that love is the crucible, is the platform from which curiosity arises, because it is when you are at ease with yourself that the curiosity is there, and that is the life essence. That's what propels you forward and out into experiencing more. Love is a very RESTful, receiving, embracing platform from which curiosity arises. It is the flame within the pure crucible is the curiosity within the state of because if you are not in a state
of love, curiosity does not feel like a spark of life. It feels like a fervent desire to solve the problem, and it feels like anxiety. Now do you awaken curiosity if it has kind of died within you, Well, we would not say that it has died, because it is always innate. What we would say is, you have not given yourself permission to be in a state of not knowing, because the value that has been placed upon
you is you have the answers. You know, you know how to manage the situation, you know how to avoid danger, you know how to service others' needs and so on, and so when knowing becomes your value, it's very challenging to give yourself permission to sit in the space of not knowing, because when you're in the space of I don't know, suddenly the universe opens within you and curiosity and newness can That's why children are such wonderful creators,
because they know that they don't know, and they enjoy not knowing, and yet your education systems saturate them with knowledge so that the curiosity begins to dem So how do you counteract that? With all the systems that we have on the world that we've made to your point, we've made an order of everything because we need order in this three dimensional world we're living in. How do you counterbalance the oversaturation and the institutions that we've created. Well, it's all
about balance. As you have so succintly stated, you live within a reality you call the Earth reality. There is much to discover and learn there, But equally, you are here to create reality, and therefore one must know their environment before they then begin something new within it. Otherwise you would be all creating different worlds that would not harmonize with each other and therefore transforms humanity as a whole. It is a balance between knowing that this is what I
understand to be in the external reality? But am I also paying attention to my internal reality? This is the external knowledge and wisdom? Am I also paying attention to the internal knowledge and wisdom? And to be to be supplementing external knowledge with internal knowing is incredibly important for the evolution of humanity. There is so much more yet to be delivered into this world. How do things arrive in your reality? They arrive through you. Agree? You are the
portals between the unseen and the scene. The mother gives birth to the child. Life arrives through you. Agree, Ideas are birthed into the world. They arrive through you. You are a portal into this reality. Therefore, the balance between investigating the reality that is being projected and also fostering and nurturing and expressing what is emerging from the very depths of you. That is how you balance and create a balanced world. What would you say is our number
one challenge moving forward? Your number one challenge moving forward is to be at ease and acceptance of yourselves. Because almost every human that we converse with has great aspiration and great desire for improvement, for expansion, for peace, for harmony. But the great battle within oneself because you are not at peace with your experience as dualistic beings. You believe you must be one thing and not the other. You believe you must be illuminated but not confused. You believe
you must be subservient but also in control. And so it's very important for you to relax into knowing that as a human in reality, you are alcillating in and out of this reality many millions of times per year linear second. You are pulsing in and out of this reality. This is the truth of your existence, and your physicists are beginning to discover it. Also, yourselves pulse in and out of this reality, and so therefore you are not consistently
this and yet you expect yourselves to be in consistency. So the more you can sit in the eye, don't know, the more you can experience yourself in that freedom and realize it. In every single moment that you can perceive, it's an opportunity for you new, new, new, rather than consistency repetition. This is who I am, this is how I behave. Humans are very uncomfortable with change, So we were pulsing in and out of this reality. Now I'm so curious we're in here. When we pulse out of
it, where are we? You're in the great expansion of the cosmos, in the all, in the one. And that is what humans experience when you have the end of your linear experience and you move back into the peace of the one. That is the lull, that is the expansion, that is the relief, that is the release, that is the essence of yourself
you feel just before you awaken and just as you are fullingess. So those moments when you feel bliss during a deep meditation, for example, or your consciousness has expanded, is that what you're actually yes, Because when your consciousness is expanded in that way, you actually feel yourself in that state of wholeness or oneness and simultaneously within this reality. Now it is the masterful, expanded conscious human that can feel themselves in both. Can you live in both at
the same time without pulsing in and out? You are living in both at the same time. I knew you can say that. Of course you did, because you already know. The question is how can your minds become aware of it? What's interesting is your body is already becoming aware of it, because your body is always, always, feeling quite strange recently. Agree it's
becoming deregulated. Sleep patterns are being interrupted, temperature patterns are being interrupted, hormonal patterns are being interrupted because the consistency of your simulated reality is no longer being recognized by your consciousness. Your senses are now superseding the containment of that limitive view, and soon your minds will begin to catch up if you actually
pay attention to what your senses are telling you. See you keep's using the term simulated reality, and it keeps grabbing my attention because to me, simulation is there's a simulation theory, right, that this is all fake, that this is all just a virtual reality game. Is that what you're talking about here? Is that what you're saying, well, that's how you understand holographic
reality to be within your limited spectrum of sciences. If you understand the nature of the cosmos, everything is a holographic projection or a fractalization of the one. And so even within your personal experience, everything you are experiencing is a fractalization of the essence of your particular vibration and frequency. The question is,
how do you create a harmonious humanity? How is it that humans can actually begin to create individual realities that begin to harmonize, and that's when you begin to supersede a dualistic experience of your world. My god, I need so much more time with you talked about individual realities that brings up a whole other rabbit hole that we can go down. Thank you so much for coming and speaking with us. I need to release you and start speaking with Rebecca again
because we're quickly running our time. But is there anything any last minute wisdom that you feel important to impart to the audience right now? Yes, Relax, you don't need to control that. It is as it is as it is. Be like children, be opening open to discovering how it really is. I am curious once again to be in this world. Any limitations we should put on ourselves. We're regarding that question with humor because not anything new,
really, but that's true. Yes, but we will humor you and we will give you permission to not have lumutations if that is what you requires. Okay, yes, very well, it is our joy to be with you. Be curious. Thank you very much, thank you. Okay, well all right, so full disclosure. We've had several channelers on the show, and it always feels weird talking to you not being you. Oh okay. However, I found myself getting that it was you. Does that make
sense? I was it was it was I was probably fine having the dialogue with whoever it was that came through without thinking this is Rebecca channeling. When we spoke to other channelers, I'm conscious of this is someone that's channeling something, whereas with you, it was like it was I was having a conversation with where it was I was talking to you. It was remarkable. I love it. Thank you. I'm glad it was relaxing for you. I think because I've been doing it for so many years, it's so integrated.
And also my view is that I just dive in and it's another branch of the costmost coming out, so it's not such a it's not such a market shift energy. Thank you for your amazing questions. There were some big ones in there, though many of go in there. Well. I'm always available to chat more so if you feel inclined to have them on the conversation, I'd be delighted. I'd love it. I truly I would absolutely love it. So I'm great. No sooner do we hang this call up that we're
going to to connect with you again. Okay, this was fascinating. Thank you so much for taking the time in talking with you with us. If someone wants to reach out to you, and I know that you're not currently doing private sessions, however, someone can reach out to you with questions or to connect with you somehow. What's the best way for someone to do that. Just my website, which is my name Rebecca Dawson dot com. I've got lots of tree content on there to explore, and a YouTube channel as
well, but you can find that through the website too. Great Great, and also your four books. We're going to add links to all of that in our show notes. If you'd like got to skeptic wan of do go to her episode Paige and you'll find all those links directly laid in there in the show notes or on our website or on the blog. So Rebecca, once again, it has been an absolute pleasure and an honor. Thank you so much for coming on jickit, thank you for having me with some beautiful
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