Living 3D & 5D Simultaneously

podcast to social justice and spirituality. This mystical legal eagle has been providing intuitive guidance since two thousand and four and two thousand seventeen decided to go pro. But that's not all Today, Jason is also going to take us on a magical carpet rite of topics from his astounding psychic predictions, to his ventures into podcasting and his journey towards spiritual awakening. Buckle up, It's going to be an engaging, fun filled adventure, so stay tuned and prepare to have

your mind expanded and your spirit lifted. My name is Will and I'm Karen, and unlike moulderin Scully.

Skeptic Metaphysicians. I'm Will and I'm Karen, and today we have a special treat to see. Our guest today is named Jason.

can help us. I pray to God on so many levels now. In twenty seventeen, he decided to offer intuitive guidance professionally so he could further provide clients with a chance to gain insight on matters within their life which require further attention, just like an attorney.

attorney and a psychic medium, it's kind of interesting. So how did these two seemingly different roles compliment each other in your life's work.

My brothers even told me in the past that he's had some brushes with intuition and stuff so for me, I knew during college and law school that when my grandfather passes away that I'd be by myself with no one to console me. And go back a second. I moved to Florida from New Jersey because my grandparents helped raise me my mom's parents and so they raised me. And so when my grandfather died in two thousand and four,

seven years later, my premonition came true. He had a stroke a couple of days before I went to Wisconsin to cover of deposition. My family wanted me to continue working. I did get a chance a day of his stroke, but he was just communicating with his hands at that point, and he passed on when I was in Wisconsin. I got stuck there overnight. So the actual premonition I had about being alone by myself with no one to console me king true. But what flipped that around a little

was my grandfather came to me in hotel room orbs of Light looks like an unsolved mystery episode. I stepped from being me normal to me in this new reality. With my grandfather crossing over his orbs of light and all that, a feeling of unconditional love washed over me in the room I went from having my greatest fear to having one of the most profound experiences of my life that transformed my life and made me realize I was like.

with you. I'll be in your dreams. I'll communicate with you. And I was like, WHOA, okay, Grandpa, I love you. And then I went and got food and like had no like no emotion about it, and one of my close friend from high school called me, Tracy, and she asked me about my grandfather. I said, oh, he died, and I could sense for the first time, not for my five senses, I could sense for my intuitive abilities. As she was doubting what I was telling her orbs

of light my grandfather, you know. So I said to her, Hey, Tracy, you know what. You don't believe what I'm telling you right now? I get it. I know you're skeptical. I am too. If it didn't happen to me, I be a skeptic, I was a skepticist. And I said, I said, what if your grandmother could come through to you right now? She goes, my grand's been dead six months. I said, what if she came through? And then her grandmother relaid a specific message that only the two of them knew.

So she drops the phone starts crying in the bathroom. Her future husband grabs the phone at the time says, what did you just say to my wife? Why she's crying in the bathroom? And I was, I guess, my best friend, I know, since I'm like fourteen thirteen, you know, and so are you? Okay? She grabs me. She goes, how did you know that? Only my grandmother knew that? And then I got scared went back to Hella left the lights on for ten years, like everyone for ten years,

I always had the lights on. So that's in a nutshell. How my you know, reality shifted?

conn well strongly as a medium. She's telling me, let Tracy know, and she said the specific message, learned it out without realizing it, and they come through like charades. So I'll get sounds, I'll get images. My clairvoyance has grown a lot in the last few years, so I'll get a lot of images, premonitions. If you're still to show charmed. It's kind of like that. Sure gets the

premonition images. Those are pretty spot on because I get stuff like that, and so make sure of various different things such as that.

But it was mostly no. But even now, like I have interesting days where I'll have two podcast interviews, two like depositions as a lawyer, and then at night I'll do two interviews and it's like gifting the gears between the three. But a lot of people have multiple roles they fill true what would you.

because of the grandfather thing. But we do have something in common, you and I, and that is that we're both survivors of cancer. And the interesting thing about this is that you actually predicted, you got a premonition about your diagnosis before, like six months before. Right, However, tell us that story.

weather but not too hot yet. And I'm walking and I walk past the window that's underneath my office space and I'm looking at my shirt and I'm looking at my pants, and I'm like, just you know, it becomes like a mirror that time of morning, and all of a sudden, I'm looking at my reflection. I get wouldn't it be weird if you had cancer and didn't know it?

And I was like, cancel that out. And then I look again, and it did it a second time, and then a third time, and all of a sudden, I was like, Okay, I have cancer because this is my body I'm looking yet, and this is my intuitive voice speaking to me. So I went and spoke to a bunch of the people I worked with and friends, and I told my family, I said I might have cancer. I don't know how to find out, but I feel as if I do and they were all like, no, no, no,

that's just a crazy thought. And so fast forward. I had suffered from diverticulitis for fifteen years, so my doctor wanted me to get a cat scan to get it checked and see about getting diverticulitis surgery. So I was kind of doing that in anticipation of that. I went and got a cat scan and the doctor calls me and says, we need you to go to see eurologist right away. And I'm like why, Well, the imprint from the cat scan shows you have stage one kidney cancer.

I'm like what, just like my premonition, Oh my god. And my doctor's like your premonition. I'm like yeah, doc, and I explained it to him. He's like, well, luckily this is the most aggressive cancer, you'll be able to remove it. So he was already kind of giving me a pep talk. But yeah, it was pretty crazy because then I won't do that transition for three months ago. As it is, when you go through cancer, depend on

what you got. You have to wait for the m and then the surgery or the procedure or chemo, whatever it is.

it all gets whacked out right. And I respect you so much for sharing this on your show and bringing it up during the interview, because I have utmost respect for you and any cancer survivor, because only a cancer survivor knows what a cancer survivor experiences when they go through a digo.

a colonoscopy and under anesthesia. You ended up having quite the experience. Can you share that with us?

surgery and then it was cancer free. And I was determined cancer free on September twenty sixth of that year. So then I had to go in for a colonoscopy for UH to prepare for my diverticu AE surgery in December. It was a great year, Oh Jesus. But I go in for the colonoscopy not expecting much and I get put under. But before I got put under, I started reading the nurse who was putting me under, like who was catering to me? And I thought she had someone die around her that was her ex husband, but he

really was in her husband. They got divorced, but he still considers her his wife. And I was talking to her while she was like getting me prepared to go under and telling her, your son, don't fight with him, just let him graduate. Just let me graduated. Already. My son and I just argument this morning. He's graduating in May, and I had a big argument about and she anyway,

that was a side story. So I go under and I'm in this garden again, like the first time my grandpa came orbs a light, it was like one way, but this time I'm in a garden and everything was alive and connected as one. And when I say that, I mean everything felt like it breathed, It would breathe. Everything was emotionally love unattached. Everything's one. We are one, and that's the interconnectedness I felt from that experience. It was like if we're living in like ten eighty right now,

as like pixels. This was like five billion pixels all my senses. Ohh wow. It was profound. And my grandfather spoke to me. He said, son, I love you. When you get out of the out of here, talk to your mother when you call her, get out of here, call your mom. Tell her the specific words. My grand's very specific. Tell your mom that every night she prayed about you by yourself and never told you that. She didn't want you to pre cease predecease her. She's going

to live a normal life. You're going to live a normal life to the best of your ability. She's going to die after you. You're not going to predecease her. I was like, okay, Grandpa, I love you, and then I come too. Then I called my mom and my friend picked me up. My best friend, Megan picked me up, and we got we left the place to get something to eat or whatever, and I called my mom and said, Mom, I just had the most profound experience I think was Grandpa.

And She's like, well, what did he say. And I relayed the message back to her and I said, he wants me to know to tell you that when you prayed every day for sit He goes, She goes, Oh my god, my prayer that you weren't going to die before me I would die. I was like, yeah. She started crying. And my mom's not the most emotional person. She was a school teacher in Patterson, New Jersey, inner city school and very strict. But you know, anyway, she were crying. I knew right then and there that this

was significant and authentic and real. So I started crying. My mom was crying, I'm crying, and we just had this big Kumbaya moment. And you know, I have a lot of moments like that with my mom about my grandfather and my grandmother. You know, being on the other side, you feel these things all the time. You sense me.

A lot of people who go through these kinds of things and suddenly one day they suddenly their psychic mediums. They find themselves kind of at odds with their friends and family, and there were co workers. It sounds like you kind of landed softly abilities right right. But did were you aware of that before you found yours or was it an after the fact thing.

New Jersey. Don't go to the city tonight. You're gonna lose fifty dollars. You're gonna be upset. Don't do it. I was like, whoa. Just before we had cell phones were you know, like I had a landline in my bedroom that was my home phone for me, you know each other. And so I go in the car and tell my friends this, we'd go to the city. Stupid me, eighteen years old, goes into the city. I lost fifty dollars. I came home upset. And when I got home, my mom was waiting for me, and she's like, you didn't

listen to my advice. I go, no, she goes, when I get those kind of feelings, follow them. I was like, WHOA. I always felt like she was like watching me when she wasn't there. But how our family was. My grandmother used to get ititchy hands and go play at the dog tracks and see Tucust, New Jersey and went thousands of dollars and be quiet about it. And like, you know, like my family had this. I don't know how to explain it, this intuitive abilities.

for a reading, I tune into their energy. I just every energy medium as an intuitive person, whatever, and I'll tune into their energy and their loved ones will come through. And it's usually I focus in the light. So I focus on clarity, reassurance, giving people that ability not to feel so caught and grief when they know that their

loved ones are watching them now. And so in terms of the dark sided things, I have done some paranormal investigations, one three weeks ago in Utah where my whole paradigm shift about the paranormal changed. I never saw anything like that before and it was and we just did a video for it. So it's actually on a YouTube realm tube called Ghosts I try Thin ghost Quests, and so if you watch it, it's one aired each week right now.

It's it's a remarkable thing because I got scratched by something and we actually caught stuff on tape, like the Paranormal Investigator ghost Hunter shows. You see. I was part of one and it was crazy and I enjoyed it. I want to do more of it in a safe, you know, controlled way. But it made me realize that

we're not in Our world is a lot bigger. Our universe is so much larger and more profound, even for me as a skeptic, because I was always skeptical of those shows are a skeptical spirits, and even as a medium, I was skeptical about non related spirits popping in and having to deal with. But you know, when I say related spirits, I mean people who'm friends with I could pick up on their relatives, or people I read with when they trust me to read for them, I pick

up on normal. You know, when I say normal, I pick up on connected spirits to those people all the investigation, that wasn't the case. It was. It was very different.

a place. And I already know as a psychic, I have spiritual things happen to me every single day, Like I'll wake up and one of my close friends fathers will pop in and tell me call my daughter, let her know everything's okay, and then I'll go grab the phone to call her, and she's calling me about something else, and the synchronicities are off the charts. So I'm used to communicating with familiar loved ones, deceased animals even, or whatever.

But when you have the paranormal and it's really there, it just makes you realize how big of a universe we have. Even on the other side.

anything like that. It's actually just like our own shadows and it's just as long as you so you're fine.

weird dreams and you come back to Tampa. Yeah, it was. It was a unique experience. I'm trying.

should give you peace and when you slay down. One of the things I learned as a psychic medium is I lay down, I take three deep breasts, I go to meditate a little, and I pretend I don't I mean, I imagine myself with a ball of white protective energy protecting me, and I let that energy come from me and fill into the entire room, and I keep the doors closed and that allows me to sleep where I'm not afraid of any spiritual activity around me or anything,

and so you might be able to do something like that just to come for yourself.

of her on the other side of room. I'm my recliner. I'm like no, She's like, well that was that spirit. I go what? She goes, well, there's a spirit that's been visiting here. I'm like, what wait, whoa what arm on my shoulder to reassure me that everything's going to be okay. And I'm like, so I picked out the sage and I started saging yeah here because I'm not I'm not seeing this and I'm supposed to so.

stacked up on the table. That f reached me out for some reason, and I can ever never watch that movie again because of that.

back to the topic on hand, because your story fascinates me. You are walking that fine line between law and the WU really really well. But how have you been able to so successfully separate the two and how can someone who is trying to do something similar not find themselves in too deep in one world or the other.

able to be intuitive and it gives me endorphins. It connects me to people on a deeper level, and it's so much more meaningful, and it gives me purpose when I can, you know, have a good reading with somebody and connect with someone, help them know that we're not just living in time matter space. We stand and we going. That's the mystery death. A lot of us don't appreciate that. I feel after talking to thousands of people on other side, I feel pretty strongly about we just.

Think of after this interview, you go lay down later and you're watching a show and you just zoom out, you know, you fall asleep, and then you're on the other side, and then you're given a greet somebody who's like a familiar person for making my grandfather, my mom whoever, and that person orient tatch. You and I believe that we are very closely connected. Love connects us to the

other side like an umbilical chord. So when you want to talk to your loved one that's on the other side, I want to talk to my grandfather, I'll go look in the mirrors, I'll brushing my teeth and I'll speak to him telepathically in my head, and I get a penny later on or I'll get confirmation in a dream, like there's a connectedness between our sleep, our meditation, our prayer,

and the other side. And they talk to us in breadcrumbs, like synchronistic numbers, like angel numbers will line up and synchronize with a song, a penny from heaven on the ground, a bird, a feather. There's all these signs that happen out there that most of us just think serendipitous. I've had plenty of enough experiences in my life that I know that's not serendipitous. When it's authentic, you'll know, You'll get goosebumps. You know. These things aren't something you can

just create or make up. It happens as a force of nature.

What kind of advice can you give us? With the world being as it is, people were talking about this is big spiritual awakening happening and all that kind of stuff. But and yet the more people awaken, the more the crap was finding in the world. I Mean, the stuff that's going on is so insane. How can everything be getting better when things seem to be getting worse. Let's take a break and we'll be right back. And now

back to the skeptic metaphysicians. How can everything be getting better when things seem to be getting worse?

is real, And I'm in between both worlds. And you know, my day might start doing something as a lawyer, but by five o'clock I'm doing a podcast on a spiritual topic, or I'm having someone call me from California asking me for a reading, telling me that as she's been meditating the last two weeks, her spirit guid told me called Jason Zook and she just googled me and found me, and I was like, wait, what that's an Yeah, I've had that happen somehow so many times that you just

can't make this stuff. And so when you're asking me about being between both worlds and trying to make sense of it, I compartimentalize. When I got diagnosed with my cancer, I comparliamentalize that. And I think if you can compartmentalize things, even with our chaotic, hectic world we're living in right now with all these changes and things that are happening, turbulence and all we're going through unrest, whatever else we're

gonna call it uncertainty. I've had enough information through over time that I know we're going through this right now, like turbulence on an airplane. The plane will land. We will resume our normal lives in the future and look back at this as if you you know, you go to a party and you're you're looking at it years later trying to remember what happened that night. Like I feel like we have a point in the future where we get past all this, and I do believe that

there is a spiritual weekend going on. When you watch home well like a home like a home repair type home warranty commercial, and you have an actress acting as if she's meditative and she's psychic, and she's telling people American home warranty, I don't mean to plug them, but they're doing where you'll see you'll see apps for meditation mixed in on the news. I'm like, WHOA, what's going on here. We're in a different world than we were five years.

I know that that's just me breathing. When I'm a lawyer, I've got to read a book, I got to figure it out. I got to look at the statutes. I gotta do analysis. It's tiring. Sometimes I love it, but it's tiring. And I help people when their houses get damaged and their property and the insurance company doesn't pay them right, And that's very every morning, and gratify I've

been doing it for twenty three years. But when I get done with that, and then I'm on a weekend, and I have someone call me grieving their mom and they have been destrunt for months, and I get a chance to talk to them for a half hour and we connect to their mom and she's crying and I'm crying, and we're both having this awesome experience. And I get off the phone and I'm just sitting there and like, ah, that I could be a part of that. It kind of is. I call it like the cherry on the cake,

you know, likes. It's just one of those moments I appreciate.

and just be a lawyer. And sometimes I burnt out on being a psychic, and sometimes I burnt out and being a lawyer, and it gets exhausting some moments, you know, But I just I've learned my ego is no longer in the way of that. For ten years I didn't tell anyone about it. My ego was in the way, which meant, oh my god, what if my clients found out in Mississippi or Alabama. I'm a psychic. Am I a heathen? Am I gonna be excommunicated from their Christmas

guard lists in the future, you know. Like it was those thoughts that hit me for a long time. And then I met my best friend at a wedding in twenty sixteen. Sounds like a movie, Megan. She and I do our own show called Psychic Visions together. And when she saw me at this wedding and she's like, sat next to me, She's I've been trying to meet you

for five years. I'm like, what, So Like, I heard you on a podcast and we went to college together and we were at different times, but I'm supposed to be best friends with you, and We're going to do a lot of things together. Spiritually, I was like, should I change my seat?

But she's an entrepreneur, so her day job is owning a shop, but then afterwards she's into it. So a short answer to your question would be not to make it like it's complicated. You don't have to make it like a Facebook's task it's complicated. Make it simple. Just be like, hey, you know what, I'm intuitive. I can read things, so what so can other people? Well? What do I need to do to do it responsibly? Get

your ego out of the way. Understand that the days I don't read people, there's people who want to me to read them or do something with them, or you know, discuss things or whatever it is. And so the time I dedicate away from one to the other, I try to balance it because I'm a Libra, and in your context, I would say try to bring it into your life.

is perfect? Because we've heard both sides, and I'm really curious to hear what your take on it is.

way you might have to learn certain things. Us getting cancer might have taught us to be more authentic with ourselves, have more authentic, deeper relationship with people in our lives, making us strive to live five D lives now instead of waiting till later. You know, there's different aspects of how to see that, and so even the experiences that we dread that we might like ten years ago, somebody said, what's the most scariest thing you'd go through that you'd

be fearful of, I'd be like, yeah, getting cancer. Now I've got a card. I've done that. Like I think I wouldn't be afraid. Like I try to find humor and things I go through because I think it helps, you know, with everything we've been through the last five years as a world, and humor is an elixir. It's something that can keep us grounded and can help us make light of things that we can't normally make light of.

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the Social Psychic or Jason Zooke. Feel free to reach out to me, and I'm happy to talk to anyone who's interually want to talk about spiritual stuff, or if you want a reading, or if you want to find about podcasting, because it's always fun to talk about that stuff. Took very cool.

has been a lot of fun. You are are a ton of fun to hang out with.