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Welcome to Classic Skeptic Metaphysicians! We're re-releasing some of our back catalog so that these gems can be re-discovered!

This week: How to Wake Up Spiritually

You've heard that more and more people are "waking up" from the dream reality they've been living in and realizing that we are so much more than just this three-dimensional body that we inhabit. But if you haven't yet gotten your wake up call, how can you jump start the process?

This week's guest can help you get there, thanks to her "Wake Up with KC" program.

"Its like somebody's taking a taser gun to me and just turning the volume up based on the frequency and the vibrations that I deal with, with these beings. Some of them are celestial angelic, highly evolved, like extra terrestrial and then ancient." --Kimberley Chapman

Some topics covered:
  • What its like to be an empath
  • What emotional, energetic traumas are and how they affect us
  • How genetic wounds are passed down from generation to generation
  • Why some traumas aren't cleared with a past life regression
  • The key to stopping self-sabotage
  • How to wake up spiritually
  • The power behind seeing number groups
  • How numbers can affect your life
  • The power of living through trauma
  • How to break out of traumatic patterns
  • How to wake up to new thoughts and new concepts
  • Why we really aren't who we think we are
  • The place where all Truth lies
And lots more!

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Website: https://www.wakeupwithkc.com
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Today's guest is an emotional intuitive, trans medium, life transformational coach. Say that five times fast? Wow? Yeah. Well, the cool thing about her is that she talks about how limited beliefs, mental programming, and even emotional energetic traumas stop us from being our TRUO authentic cells. So I think she is going to do a lot of good for me. I'm gonna learn a lot because I need some help with my own self sabotage. My name is will and I and unlike Boulder and Scully, to believe. So we've

embarked in a journey of discovery. Welcome to Skeptic Medicians Classic. You are listening to classic Skeptic Medic positions. Welcome to our version of her walkdown Memory Lane as we present classics from the skeptic met of this library, warts and all. Before we get started, I wanted to remind you that on our website we do have a member's only section exclusively reserved for listeners who join the

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from some of our past guests. So head on over to Skeptic Metaphysician dot com and join our community right now so you don't miss out all Right, now that's out of the way, let's get on with the show. Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Karen. I'm so glad that we are back here doing another episode. I know I am too. I just love doing this so much. We do have a lot of fun, don't we. Yes, I think we have too much fun.

Probably we do. I think I think it's probably against a lot to have as much fun as we're having. But today's an interesting topic because of my own personal history. Now, longtime listeners will know that I started the show when I had a little bit of a crisis on my own, and it turns out that I learned a lot about myself through the whole COVID times right where I learned that I have a habit of sabotaging myself in a pretty hardcore way. Let me welcome to the show, Ksey Casey. Thanks so

much for coming on and talking to us today. Well, thank you for having me. It's such an honor and a pleasure. And I love like minded and especially metaphysical. I mean, oh my gosh, that's like my favorite kind of topics to talk about. Well, strap your seatbelts because we go all over the place. You never know where our conversation will take us. And that's the fun of it, right, universe takes us where a universe wants to take us. In whatever messa that you were supposed to give

on this episode, we are happy to do so. So I would like to know. Oh yes, I'm just button right in, go for it. I love it. So you have this wonderful title. Can you explain it to me? Because I have no idea what that means? Wake up with Casey. It's really simple. I think I think you spent the emotional intuitive trans medium life transformational coach that one. Although I have a rough time waking up too. So an emotional intuitive trans medium on the spiritual aspect and

understanding is I'm it's connected to being empathic. I feel senses and energies with my intuition, and I channel how the evolve beings ancient civilization, beings that you can't see in your natural eye unless you have another gift that you could see beyond that, in the invisible realm kind of thing, if that makes any sense. You know, because I've heard growing up. You know, I saw my grandmother who passed. You know, I want to call them

ghosts. They're just souls. Just people are able to see them better than myself, but I feel them. Okay, got it, Got And it's mind blowing. But going through what I've experienced, I just finally said, Okay, this is probably my purpose and mission and why I can't, you know, in order to help others. And it's starting to make sense.

It's like I'm on a constant transformational journey, constantly changing better in my mind, the way I think, the way I feel, and then recognizing history and science and spirituality is all connected and we can learn so much of our history of Oh my god, I see history repeating itself, just different time

frame. How do we stop repeating the cycle? The pattern? So I awaken people by what I study in research, and then I just educate and awaken them, and then on an individual basis, you know, the limited beliefs. The mental program means the emotional energetic traumas. If you think about it, it's being a woman. Okay, when you're pregnant, whatever you're feeling and emotion and energy that you are creating from your own experience. Guess

what the baby that you're carrying is experiencing the same thing. Now, let me go deeper. You were in your mother's womb, your mother was in her roomb, and let's go back in time. All that stuff what keeps carrying over? And you wonder why you're attracting certain things, experiencing certain things. You see where I'm going. Yes, so it's like a genetic energy. Yes, it's not hereditary. It's just an emotional energetic trauma that's been

passed down for generations. And once you discover and connect the dots to the root of what your issue is, boom gone, because then you having god realization of oh my God, now I know where this comes from. Okay, how do I change it? So? And I guess that comes in line with like past life progression therapy and that kind of stuff where you recognize a problem that you've had in a previous life that has manifested itself in this

one, and by identifying it, it tends to clear it. Well, I'm going to tell you it didn't work for me, but you identify it, But then it gives you an opportunity to Okay, it didn't work last time. What can I do to change it to where I don't have to repeat it? It's not so much how how you react? Well, if it didn't work out before, well, how did you react to it when it presented itself to you again? And then okay, what can I do

differently? Not react, but respond in a better way that's more positive, because then you change your mindset, you change the energy from your emotion, and then a different result. Well, then this gives me an opportunity to kind of clear something up with the audience. If you heard the past life regression session that I did with the Unbelievable le or Leone we released not a few weeks ago, you heard some things that I was not able to connect

the dots. So this gives me an opportunity to connect connect the dots for the audience and then ask you a question at the same time that pertains to what you were just talking about. In my past life regression. It turns out, at one point in time, I had a family that I couldn't protect. I was the one constant and everyone that that was in my family had either died or been sold to slavery. I was unable to save them. Now on this life, I have found here's where I'm connecting the dots

for the audience. I found that I am an over protective parent in a pretty massive way. Well you know, but then it makes sense, right because now I have this genetic memory that says to me, I have to do everything I can to protect my daughter. Theres no way I'm going to let anything happen to her this time around. And I wasn't aware of it until I went back to my past life regression and realized it. And now I've connected those dots. Now when I said that it didn't work for me,

I've connected the dots. But I find myself still just as overprotective as I was before my past life aggression. So what's the missing piece there? You're holding on to guilt and grief, the grief of not being able to protect those that you love. You're you're actually that's the emotional energetic trauma. That makes sense, It makes makes sense, but how do you let go with them from it? So it's like I'm speaking truth. When I hear

truth, I feel it. So come on to that fear and that guilt is so overwhelming from that that past life and you carried it into this life. So all you got to do is just say, you know what, thank you. I I now realize that was then, this is now and I release you. You no longer serve a purpose in this lifetime, in

my lifetime now, but thank you and just bless it. Well, if you have not had a chance to listen to the past Ie Progression episode, I urge you to go back and listen to it and then reach out to us and let me know if that resonates with you with something that maybe you have gone through. I'll tell you, Casey, that really resonates with me

in a very strong way. I do you know when you go to therapy and you talk to talking to therapists and they say, oh, well, this is what you're going through, and like it clicks and it feels like yep, that is the answer. It does feel right now that you're telling me what my answer is. It makes a lot of sense. So I'm just speaking to your soul. That might also be the reason for your self

sabotage. If you've had this guilt that you're carrying with you, you feel like you don't deserve the life or whatever that you have, absout you sabotage it. I am getting chills right now. There. Where's the truth? Just some podcasts a while ago, Casey, where have you been? All my life? Were crying out loud? I needed your help. I needed you know all the years and all the dollars I spent on therapy, and

I could have just gone to you for crying out loud. Well, because I connect neuroscience and emotional energetic traumas from my own experience and my own spiritual awakening. Because I asked a question and started questioning everything, and it's ongoing, it never stops, and it just it's mind blowing. So I take a little bit and then I share it, just like I did what we

just went through, perfect example. That's what I do. I just look at things and feel things in a different perspective in order to help you heal, so you can transform and become the better version of yourself and you can lose your best life. Now, have you always had these gifts or is it something that developed later and you've fine tuned, or have you just always

known. I've had it inner knowing since as a child. But I know, like in my teens, I started carrying visions and dreams that like three days later or a week later, two weeks later, it happened in a similar way. So that was like a little freaky. Then I started going through other transformations, and I guess the awakening of seeing, feeling, and

even speaking, And then it just keeps getting more. Like it went from I recognize a Native American language and then I'm now learning to discern the masculine energy and the i'minine energy, and my whole body just trans it. You could see like, oh, she looks like a masculine kind of or she looks like a woman the way her posture is. And so I'm starting to recognize that. But if you ask me how to you know, to translate it, I haven't gotten to that part yet because when I do it all

it's it's intense. It's like somebody taking a taser gun to me and just turning the volume based on the frequency and the vibrations that I deal with with these beings. Some of them are celestial, angelic, highly evolved like extraterrestrial, and then ancient. So it's it's wild and crazy and fascinating to me. So you're just a conduit for all kinds of stuff. Yeh? Is it on all the time? Or can you do you invite it in? Do you do you take them in and go okay, I'm ready to take

some questions now, or just constantly being bombarded at you. It's well. When I have conversations with my higher self and my spirit guides are always around me. I have like three of them, and I just start talking to them like I'm talking to my best friend, and I'm like, hey, what's going on with this? And I and I have to make a habit to bring a journal with me, but I get into this like intense conversation and I forget to grab a pod and I just I've learned like the yes

and no questions. It's better. Sometimes I do hear some words or I'll get an image. I'm like, oh okay, and then a lot of times I'm like, what in the world, what do you what? I don't I don't understand what are you talking about? We hold up you know kind of things. So I feel like that would be my my constant reality. If I here, I'd be have you seen that all the time? What do you talk? What? No? What see? Now? I would want to know, like, how do you know those are spirit GUIDs?

I would think I was just losing it if it was me. You we're all spiritual beings. We're sexual beings inside of a human being. And from what I've learned, there is the connection even from ancient times from Egypt, about the spiritual aspect and the sexual aspect in connecting inside a human being. So it's you learn based on who you are and recognizing things that Okay,

this doesn't make sense, but it will later. I've learned to just trust and I'm protected, Like you have to have faith and believe, like, Okay, I don't quite understand what I'm experiencing, but I know there's a reason, and I'm just going to trust. And you got to connect to that greater intelligence, that divine essence that you already have in you. See. That's where I start falling down because that blind faith thing to me just doesn't work. I need something to say tap me to the shoulder and

go, hey, I'm your spirit guide, right, I don't. It's hard for me to just drop the can you prove it to me attitude and just accept, which is I understand why I haven't had these experiences and things like that, like most people, AM not open to them because I need that proof, right, the three dimensional, physical, tangible proof. But let me ask yourself, well, do you see numbers like in pairs three digits every now and then I can answer that, all right, it sounds

like someone's been stalking my Instagram. I do. Actually I see for a long time eleven eleven followed me everywhere, like everywhere everywhere. That it's very significant because that's how they're trying to communicate with you. So when you start recognizing and then go do numerology. I've had experts on my show that's study numerology and it goes back in ancient times as well. It's the way that they tried to communicate. And then they'll it's like they're nudging you pay attention

to these numbers, and that's a baby step. So when you step so okay, So they've been trying to communicate with you with numbers so start Okay, when you see that number, whatever number it is that you're that's popping out at you, say okay, I don't understand what you're trying to communicate with me, but I'll look into that, and then you know, and then that it's a slow gradual like okay, because they're on the other side

one when is he gonna get it? You know, we're trying to uddle, and then whatever, like okay, I eleven eleven, and then you start researching talk out loud because they'll hear you, even in your thoughts. When you're talking in your thoughts, say okay, eleven eleven, and then say, okay, I don't quite understand what you mean by this. I need more clarity. Everyone knows that I'm a chicken shit, and make everyone knows I'm a chicken shit. So there is a you don't have to nod

so enthusiastically, Karen agreeing with you. I'm supporting. Thank you, you're so supportive. So yes, I am a big chicken shit. And there was a time where the numbers I kept seeing was eleven thirty four, eleven thirty four, eleven thirty four, eleven thirty four, and one time I turned my head and suddenly realized, oh god, eleven thirty four backwards spells out hell. So I promptly said, I am not ever going to pay attention to numbers again. So I don't know what were they trying to tell

me something? They giving me the hell numbers now, so okay, So here it is. You got eleven, which is a master number because it goes from eleven. Eleven and twenty two is master numbers. So eleven could go into two, and then you got three and four, which is seven. At two and seven you equals nine. Now go and study what eleven master number is, what the two is, then three and four, seven, then nine, because what it is, it's it's eleven, which is

a master number, which is very significant and symbolic. You got thirty four, two, seven, nine, nine is a significant number, like everyone's going through based on your birthday and this year, because every year changes, so does your season and your numerology and what you can anticipate in the year of that year, like mine is okay, nine to eleven, twenty twenty two, it's eight for me, So I'll go and look and study eight

and what it represents in numerology. So I can one get knowledge and understanding and maybe insight of the seasons that I'm going through for this year. Okay, so you're saying that weed to fine a numerologist, which is something I've been trying to do for a long time actually, and have not found the right person to talk to yet. But I will find them and I will get them on the show. We're all gonnatch numbers, even our biochemistry.

You need to take a quick break, but we'll be right back with more amazing conversation on the skeptic metaphysicians. Okay, how is it possible that a number can affect I guess this is a question we should ask numerologists, But I'm curious because we're on a topic now. How can a number affect things in your life that have no bearing on numbers? Maybe it just reflects them. It's okay, we're all connected to the Earth, the planet, the

universe and all of that. Now they go in cycles too, How they orbit thirty days for the moon, you know, in the sun and whatnot. So see where the numbers come in. And then you picked a certain day, month and year to come into this earth. Even what time of day am pm? See how numbers connect. And you said something about three six and nine, and that's almost my birthday. My birthday is seven three

six nine. But it is we're connected to everything, including numbers. You get insight and then there is like positive and negatives, good and bad. There's some negative aspects with the numbers too, based on you know, your name speaks volumes numbers with the pathron and pathron to pathoo. I can't even pronounce it right now, Oh my god. But yeah, and it goes back in ancient history that they use that. I think it was back in the Roman times, if I'm not mistaken that they did that with people's Do

you use all these things I know you mentioned you were emotionally intuitive. Do you use numerology and past life regressions and things like that to be able to guide the people that come to you for guidance or is it strictly more of a channeled information. Well, right now, I've been coming out of the closet at what I do when I channel. And I have a small group,

inner circle group that knows me, that understands what I'm doing. And I have one person that now can she could translate, But it comes in the best way I could describe it is like they're speaking too fast and me trying to get it all to translate. It's like they're up here, they're frequency and I'm hearing this frequency and trying to communicate like the waves of a radio station, trying to like fine tune it. That's what it's like. So now I'm just like, okay, I have to be bold and start

doing it. It's just I don't know when that I have a feeling I'm gonna be doing it in some aspect of my show. I just I'm intuitively just okay, just do this for now, but get ready. And I'm like, okay, it is fascinating, incredibly fascinating, But what tools do you use currently? If it's not channeling and I understand what you're saying, it sounds like it's a trans channel like you actually you're not a conscious channel

that you actually go into trance and out. They step in, they speak their message, and there's some feeling that goes on from whatever experienced in helping other people their chakras. They felt something move and shift in their chakras or pained went away, And I was like, okay, well, I guess I did what I was supposed to do, and I just like there you

go. You know it's I Sometimes when I do a reading, they will come in and give little messages and then I use my tarot cards and I have different ones, like I have the Goddess Power Oracle, the Mescal Shaman Oracle, and the star Seed oracles. So it's just what I feel led to get to use whatever I feel led to do energy work. You know, it's above doing reiki because I could do it virtual and I could just feel okay, oh I didn't have this pain over here online right back shoulder.

So what is this stemming from? Does it belong to them? And why what happened? Like I go through that, I become the researcher an investigator to get to the root so I could help them. Interesting In preparation for our interview, I did a little bit of research on you and from when I uncovered your and I don't know how much you to get into this,

and we can certainly did gloss over it. But you had some difficulties yourself, starting with childhood and going into adulthood that put you on this path, right, So you're speaking from a position of personal experience that sparked your spiritual awakening, which now you are then utilizing to try to help others to spark theirs. Can you share with us what happened? At what point did that shift, that light switch come on and go? I've got to help

other people to share with your audience. You know, I even through childhood, I was bullied. You know, I've been through every form of abuse from you know, being bullied, the emotional, mental, verbal. I've been sexually abused, financially abused, spiritually abused, all of that. Well, I'm sorry to hear that. First of all, Well, it's it's right because you know why I gained wisdom molded you into who you are now, Well, it gave me the opportunity to experience it. Because if I

didn't experience, I wouldn't know any better. That's how I look at it. So I don't blame, I don't judge. I'm like, okay, well I liked that experience, so I don't want to experience that ever again. And then you gain wisdom, knowledge and understanding, and then I could put myself in anybody's shoes that has experienced any of that kind of abuse, and I could show compassion because I understand where they're coming from. But now I could say, hey, you don't have to stay in that, the

guilt, the shame, all of that. Been there, done that, seen the movie, got the T shirt and burned it a couple of times. Now. You mentioned early on about having chosen the day and time that you were born and all that kind of stuff. There's a school of thought that says that we actually choose everything that happens to us as well. Do

you subscribe to that thought process? Well, and I was in my soul form and out in the universe, galaxy whatever, in my soul form and with the creator of all the essence of that, we just had a conversation. I like, Okay, what do we want to do now? Well, I'm want to experience this, I want to be this color, I want to have ease parents and go through all this. Yeah, to a degree, I can understand that because we've been around thousands of years and there's

so much more to experience. That's why we came here is to experience life. And there's no honestly, it doesn't matter what gender, what race,

what color. We're all gods and goddesses experiencing life, learning, growing, expanding to take it aste further than some people would say that that none only did you choose, you chose when you were in your soul form, but you specifically brought these experiences to you because there are things that you had to learn yet to experience, to get beyond in order to get you to the point where you can help others to your point because you've been there, done

that, and burned a couple of them, you know, along the way. So that's why I'm asking if you subscribe to that thought process, because you went through some very difficult, very difficult challenges and you've come out on the other side thankfully, but those are hard things to swallow. So why would someone why does someone Why do we have to experience all this hardship in

order to reach awakening? Why can't they just be like, hey, we're just going to have for well, I believe like a lot of us don't even realize about that some of the limited beliefs, the mental programmings, and

the emotional energetic traumas. Like when I started realizing some of that was because on you know, in my family there was physical abuse in my ancestry, and then I attracted like I I'm not sure if I wanted to experience everything or was I that energy passed down to me for being an abusive, you know, relationship because I wind up marrying two individuals, men that were very abusive, and I, you know, my second marriage, I got to the point where is this all there is to life? Because if this is,

I don't want to be here, you know. And there is some religion aspect that I just did not resonate with, and I was like, be submissive to your husband. I'm like, well, wait a minute, what if he beats the shit out of me? What I'm supposed to stay submissive? That doesn't It did not sit well. It just did not feel right or true. So I was like, well, you know what, I'm done with religion. And if there is an essence of a highre whatever in God, didn't you show me the grass is greener on the other side

than I want to know? And that's that's that's when my journey started. Like I started seeing things and recognizing things and like, oh my god, wait what oh oh, that's made so much sense. I know it. You know kind of thing we talk about it so often about the spiritual rebirth is so any kind of birth is so messy, so difficult, challenging, it's ugly, it's tough, but at the end of it all, there

is a huge payout. Do you think it always it seems like most of our guests that we speak to talk about some sort of suffering that happened before they had this awakening. Do you think it always has to be around suffering? Not necessarily, I don't, you know. I think that it's just like the program and the belief you know, especially in coming from the religious aspect. Oh, we're you know, the misconceptions about your Borness Center is

bullshit. I'm sorry, it's not. And then that passes on down you see what I'm saying. So it really messes up with your you know, your your mind and expanding it and understanding. You get so consumed by all those beliefs and programmings. Well, it's making a heck of a lot of sense to me, sadly, totally not even to do with what we're talking about now. And it's just a very kind of selfish question. But I'm

just curious. You had said earlier that you can see people and you can see their energy, and whether it's masculine or feminine, and women that have you feel it. So I'm wondering if can you feel either like either more masculine or feminine from me? When the spirits are around and then come in and channels, that's when I feel it. Okay, gotcha. So it's kind of up to them. It's not necessarily up to you to just look and decide. Right. It's like when I open up myself and I'm like

okay, and sometimes they'll get my intention and I'll get hit. I'm like, okay, what's going on, you know, looking wrong or I'm looking at the person. I'm like, oh, you have a message for them, don't you. And then I get a hit and I'm like okay. So then I just open up that, Hey, I have a message for you, but I'm not sure if you're gonna understand it, But are you willing and open to receiving it whatever it is? And they're like yeah,

sure, why not. I'm like, okay, here we go, be ready, And then I just go through it and they're like, oh my gosh, I don't understand the word you said, but I felt that, and I'm like, well, there you go. You don't have to understand it. Just went to your spirit, your soul, and that's all that matters, all right. Well, you had mentioned earlier that you have your own show, and I would be remiss if we didn't at least touch on it, because we started very early on when you said wake Up with Casey

and people are in audience going what is that? I thought she was something else? So can you tell us about your show? What's about? How do people find it? Things like that? Well, I'm on every podcast and this is what got me. When the pandemic around October was going on in twenty twenty, I felt like like, okay, now it's time and I'm like, okay, time for me to do what at my show? What are we doing? You know? And I went to Connecticut School Broadcasting

to update my skills and then boom, I started a podcast. I'm like, okay, this is what we're doing, all right? And then it expanded in my second season. I think I believe I started the virtual aspect, so and it is wake Up with k C. Wake up to new concepts, new perspectives of what if everything that we were taught to believe was a lie? What if there's a misconception about who we are? So I'm getting ready to start my four season March seventh, twenty twenty two, with

a whole new look. Finally found my logo, got my website, everything, my opener for the virtual aspect of it that's connected to YouTube for right now. And I'm just I keep going and I find like minded individuals and experts that understand how the misconception I get people. I'm starting to look for people that are experts in ancient history, the ancient civilization, science and even

you know, more spirituality kind of concepts. And then I have people that, you know, some are average and summer celebrities, and I just go through what you know, their transformation, you know, even the history of our legend actors and actresses. You know, what did they do to reinvent themselves? How are they doing? What are they doing now? You know,

what do they realize being in the industry. So I'm very like an open book when I talk to people, and I just I love talking to people and you know, find out what did you learn about this and how was this experience And it's it's very insightful, transformational. It has all the

aspects and getting to understand people better. Karen knows that I am a podcast junkie, So I'm going to subscribe to your show because I'm really curious, especially when you talk about what if everything we've been told is not real and who we are is not really who we think we are, because that topic fascinates me. Well, then, Casey, if someone wanted to reach out to you to get some help or to just connect with you and have a

conversation, what's the best way for someone to do that? Wake up with Case, the letter K and the LETTERAC at gmail dot com. All right, we're going to put that in the show notes so that if you want to connect to Case, all you need to do is go to Skeptic Metaphysician dot com, go to our episode page, go to Case's episode, and you'll see all direct links directly on there. We're going to put your social media platforms on there, your website links on there, and your email address

so that people can reach out to you. Case. There's one thing, one final word of encouragement and wisdom you wanted to impart to our audience. What might that be? The truth is inside you, within you, and let it be revealed. See now you are speaking my language, because if you hear the intro to the show, we are like Molder and Skull, but we say whether they keep saying the truth is out there, you're saying the truth is in here, and that is a perfect message. That's probably

what we're trying to get out there more than anything else. So Casey, thank you so much. This has been really truly wonderful experience talking to you. You are a fascinating person. Thanks again for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. It is a pleasure and honored and I'm truly grateful for this experience with you. Well, the honor is ours and a huge thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options out there, and having you decide to come along on our journey of discovery with

us is an absolute honor for us. If you know someone who would benefit from hearing the message we're sharing on the show, do them and us a favor and share the show with them. It will help get the word out about us, and it might just change someone's life for the better. That's all for now. We will see you on the next episode of The Skeptic Beteposition. Until then, take care,

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