Okay, Karen, I've been looking forward to this one for a very long time. I know, all right, I talk all the time about how I live on heaven on earth because somehow I was able to bamboozle you into marrying me, and the fact that you're still with me today after all these years and everything we've been through. There's just no other words that would fit the bill when it comes to describing my life with you. But heaven on Earth, right, Well, that's very see now, that's true, that's
reality. But now, what if everyone on this planet could experience heaven without needing to marry you? Well? I was going to be excited about the thought of polygamy for a minute there, but that would be just a lot of work. Well yeah, well, what if anyone could visit the heaven, oh, spend as much time there as they wanted, speak to whomever they wanted while there, and come back without any of the petty near death experienced side effects. Oh well that would be nice. I'm telling you prepare
yourself, because this show promises to be nothing short of heavenly. Welcome to this kept, metaphysicians. My name is Will and I'm gart and unlike Molder and Scully both want to believe. So we've embarked in a journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical world. We've
thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a coven of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep, all on the interests of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, three dimensional world we all live in. This is the skeptic metaphysicians. Okay, I'm about to show my age here. A long time ago, there was a song called Things that make You go Hmmm. It was done by Scene C
Music Factory. It's a group or a band or whatever you want to call him, back in the eighties or nineties. I forget how long ago, but it was a while ago, not today. As I was reading one of my books that I read after my meditations in the mornings, I read something that made me go reminded me that song. So I'm reading the Upanishads, which is an ancient Hindu scripture, and it's kind of a companion book to the bag of Aghida. Some people even believe that it's better. It's
a better book than the Bag of Aghida. Some people think otherwise, backwards, the other way around, whatever you prefer. But one thing's for sure. Hindu scripture. It's actually it's pretty mind blowing when you come to it and you really read into it. But anyway, one of the passages in the book that I'm reading is this, I'm going to butcher this, so please forgive me. It reads like this. It says, those would depart from this world without knowing who they are or what they truly desire, have
no freedom here or hereafter. But those who leave here knowing who they are and what they truly desire, have freedom everywhere, both in this world and in the next. That's it. That's the whole thing. So the reason why that made me go is because throughout the course of doing this show, we've heard a lot of stories and lots of different opinions as to what happens when we pass on to the next life. Some folks have said that you
immediately go into a life review and then go into your next life. You're reincarnated. Others feel like you're given a choice whether or not to be incarnate or spend some time in the hereafter, maybe come back and help others in spirit guide form, or stay or not come back at all. And yet there's a third faction of people who believe that we humanity is endlessly trapped in a cycle of reincarnation as a bad thing. So this a pun a shot
if you take it as gospel. Pardon the pun might just give us an answer to why there's so many different opinions, like what if the act of awakening here on this three dimensional plane is what catapults us when we cross over into having the choice as to whether or not to come back again or not, or what we do and don't do, And those who don't wake up might find themselves in that eternal cycle of reincarnation, forced to come back again
and again until they do awaken. Now, I don't know if that resonates with you, but to me, wow, does that ever resonate? That makes all the sense in a world to me, and it puts things in
such great perspective for me in my mind, in my belief system. That means to me that as more and more of us awakened to who we really are in this reality, more and more of us will have choices once we cross over as to whether or not to come back and help humanity, come back and relive a life, or stay maybe help from the other side, And that's I don't know, it's it's kind of comforting to me to know
that maybe since I'm in the process of awakening. I know, I get a long way to go, but at least I'm in the process of awakening. Well, maybe I'll have just a little bit more freedom in deciding what I do once crossover. Doesn't that feel good? It does to me. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Send us an email or a voicemail. You can go to skepticmdifsicition dot com on our website. You can leave us a voicemail directly there, or you can send us an email from the website.
Let us know what your thoughts are on this. Does this make sense to you or is it just a bunch of malarkey that I'm just making up because I'm on a high from the meditation I just did. Either way, really would love to hear what you have to say about this, because man's it struck me right be junior eyes today, all right, enough about things that make you go hm oh, Actually speaking of things that make you go.
Let's move on to today's guest. Hey there, I'm Will and I and today we're off to Heaven. Our guest is a past board member of the Newton Institute, whose mission is to uncover the mysteries of the afterlife. Now, with the help of more than two hundred and fifty trained facilitators scattered across forty eight countries, they've actually discovered happens to a person at death, where they go, and what they do while they are there waiting to reincarnate.
We know this process to be called life between lives, of course, and with over seventy thousand successful sessions, they have in a sense mapped out the afterlife or heaven. Wow. Yes, he's the author of three Hours and thirty three Minutes in Heaven, based on his own experiences with the afterlife, and he's here today to walk us through the astounding modality reinforced and welcome
to the captainin of revisions. How are you well? Thanks? Thanks, I'd love that we can talk about this in a fun way, as some people get too serious about it. But back at the nineties, Michael Newton, who was a hypnotherapist, he was regular Inmo therapist. He was not particularly a spiritual guy, didn't have a particular religion he followed. He say he was more agnostic than atheists or any but he just didn't know, you
know, it's red agnostics. They just will I don't know. And he was helping a person I forget now if it was to stop smoking or lose weight, you know, one of the sayings hypnoth or pistwo. And so it's end of the session, would count people up so that they come back, you know, fully aware, non there, so they're not walking around
like a zombie, you know, the rest of the day. So he starts being yeah, it's like so he starts to count the client up and the client refuses and says no, want to come out of it, knowsis. He says, well, come on, you know I'm gonna failt to one to five and you'll be and says no. He said why, and the person says, I want to go home and see my friends. And Michael's thinking, okay, I'm gonna wake you up out of trance and you're gonna be fine. You'll go home and see your friends. Says no,
I want to see my friends. All of a sudden, the client is like, whoa, they're so and so, and he's talking to somebody as if he's seeing somebody in his inner vision or something. And come to fully down what he had done is he had gone back to happing her back home where we all come from, and he was having a reunion with some of his friends that were already passed on or passed away. Finally, the session ended and Michael couldn't get that out of his mind. He says, what
the heck is this? I mean, this is just bizarre. But Michael, being the kind of person he was, he was this so curious and so everything. He proceeded to figure this out with seven thousand different clients. He would get them the trains that he would just suggest to them that they would go home. Well, the process was hid and missed for a while. They finally started fine tuning it and even to this day, we're fine
tuning the process to make it more successful. We're you know, the percentage right now is about ninety percent of people to want to have the session, want to visit the afterlife for a few hours. Can do it? Hang on, I got intervited for a second. You just dropped the bombshell there.
And I want to make sure people understand what you're saying. You're seeing that on the very first session, if someone goes to one of these you or one of the other two hundred and fifty practitioners of this modality, yeah, you have a ninety percent chance of reaching having ninety nine zero. That's yeah. Okay, let me are qualified that. I would say within one or two sessions about it still about eighty percent about my life's about eighty percent
of successful in the first try. The other ones. I do. What I do is I don't charge her a second session, because that way people can relax, you know. I said, look, if you need a second session, I'll do it for it's for free. Within a few months, you know, let things settle when they come back. About ninety percent of them were successful. Then I had one woman recently. The first session, nothing much happened. Second session, she was able to go to a
past life. And I'll explain the past life deal in the second too. Why we use that as a way to get to where we're going. Okay, second session, she experienced the past life, which which she was like the Kate woman. I'd be walking around with with the bag of stuff and her husband was hunting and they end up getting lost or something. She died
in the snow, you know. Somewhere after that, she says, well, wow, that I says, if I'm making a past life, going to be some woman in the first thing, following a guy in the snow, so he could it's just like a princess, you know, yea or something. So that intrigued during us, so she came back for a third session. She was able to visit another past life, and all of a sudden she sees herself pass away. She turns around and there's like a guy
there, but then she's in what we call the black. It's like, I think we think it's a real place because some people end up being there and they just feel or somewhere, but they don't see anything. All they do is feel good, you know, like, wow, I'm in this neat place, but I'm not seeing anything in my inner vision or anything. We have a way now that we've learned around that, and we just take our time a little bit, let him float around with the black, and
eventually, like happened with me, because it took me two times. First session, I got all freaked out kind of like what's going on? And I couldn't settle down. They got my left brain, my analytical brand too much in it, so we had to stop to says it. But three or four days later they worked with me. We did it and I went to the past life, which was pretty cool. And then and then I'm
in this black and I'm not seeing anything. Well to facilitate or new to just take his time with me. And about ten minutes later, so I'm just slowing this black, I saw a pinpoint of like rent, like a dot of rent, and he said, well, just kind of float over towards it. It in a microsecond, there was I was out of there. There was my guide and I had the most incredible experience of my life so far. It's like, look, I just had to write it down
because it was just so interesting that me, Reagan. This even at hypnotherapy school when I went for two years, I was the last guy in the class to be hypnotized. You know, I kept volunteering every time pick me, pick me, and I'd go up there and I'd walk out going this is nothing. You know, I'm from first hand experience, Reagan. I'm telling you it's because apparently we wanted too much. Yeah, that's the one thing. If you if you're pushing and trying, it's harder to happen.
You just have to relax. Because the process that we found work is that we just take people to the natural process of falling asleep. That's paying attention to the breath and every breath breathing in, and when you breathe out and you get to the very bottom of the breath before you breathe in again, there's a real quiet. It's like nothing's moving in your body. You're not using no muscles are moving or anything. And it's kind of like you kind
of ratchet down each breath you're taking. You're following your sleep, get down to the bottom, you go a little deeper, and then you breathe in. You down the bottom. It's not like a light switch, you know, people when you're just out, you know like that, it's a process of falling asleep. Okay, So what we do, because we're communicating with the person right is they're just about to fall asleep. We're communicating with them, so we kind of keep them in that relaxed state that's right on the
verge of falling asleep. It seems that that this is a natural thing, like if people have the ability on their own to just relax, but to keep themselves just before falling asleep. That way, I call it a God switch. But it seems that at that point people easily access memories of past lives. Maybe I've been in having thousand times before. In our research, we found out that's our true home. You know, it changes the paradigm a little bit when you realize they're not created in the womb, but God
created you on the other side, and you're just down here visiting. Okay, that even makes more sense as you think about it, that God creates us and then we decided to have experience and learning grow to be more loving, like a play that we want to be on where you can play a certain character, where you can learn a certain thing that you wouldn't otherwise.
It's easy for people to understand if I say that we're down here and we're to play, and during our play, in different scenes, different people show up, sometimes nice, sometimes our tagonist shows up, and we have at these huge learning experiences. You know that we have to deal what we have to deal with the difficult things in life. So you picture this, You're sitting in a movie theater and you're watching your play. So what I do
to help people prepare for a sie So I send them homework. And in the homework, what they do is they write a list of the cast new characters in their play. You know, they write just a few sentences about them, so we know who the players are. And then they write a list of questions that they want to have answered about their current life. Some of the questions are general. We ask like, why did this person decide to be born? What was their purpose? Could we all have meaning and
purpose? What's the mission? What do we hope to learn? What we hope to help others? Okay, we ask all those questions, but people have other questions. So many of the people are doing these sessions are over fifty six. You know a lot of people in their sixties, seventies, eighties, and they're a point in their life where they're going, what am I going to do with the rest of my life? I've retired bill blah blah blah. And then they want to find out what's their mission now that
they have time to do things? You know, what can they do to make the world a better place than everything, So everybody has their own thing and then and the lists of people. Generally people have a handful of people that have died that they want to talk to when they get to the other side. That's what we call a soul group. We put terms out of
everything because the seas are to explain this process. So generally what happens is when people get to that deep state of the lack station, in order to access the other side, we ask their soul or their higher self to take them to a past life than as some sort of relevance to their current life, because there usually seems to be one you'd want to pay attention to.
Because we generally bring in some unfinished business into a current life that we're still working on something, we don't spend a lot of time in a past life
because it's just a doorway to kind of get to the after life. Some people just come to me they want to do a past life regression sessions, and we'll do that and we'll spend a lot of time there and we'll try to get as much information as we can, because some people want to kind of check that out and see if they can find if a person of that name things that they could remember if they could kind of prove a past life,
you know kind of thing. But we we usually just have to do two or three scenes from a person's memory of a past life that we haven't goved to the death scene. And I would say most of the time they're in a bed, sowhere in a house, there's somebody there with them. Occasionally I've had people getting hung or been in battles and getting killed. Even had one and that was only alive for a few hours and it was just like a like a cryb desk in that lifetime. You know, people wonder
about crybdsk, what was your purpose for that? By clients who's in trance at times says, well, I was going to come down only be there for very just a few hours or a few short time because my mom needed to have the experience of having a baby that passed away then because of stuff she would learn from that. Okay, Also it was a karmic a little bit. There was by doing that, there was some kind of karma that that soul you got rid of. You know. There's a book, okay,
two books that are so great that Michael Newton wrote. They just sold over a million copies. One is called Journey of Souls. That's his first book. You did that nineteen ninety five and about ten years later because so many people wrote him and said, well, what about this? What about this? Whether about this? And he was continuing research all the time. So the second books, a little thicker, is called Destiny Souls in Him. There there's a lot more specifics, you know about things that he found
out, you know about the afterlife and things like that. Right, So those are two So those are two great books. Sure if people that are listening to the podcasts, they want to write, right. So I like how you said you talked about the dreams and how they can insert themselves into dreams to kind of make people feel better, because I know that happened to
me when my grandmother passed away. And it was interesting because the dream that I had was I was she lived with my father at the time, and so my father and his wife were sitting at a table and I was sitting there. I was kind of observing. I don't even know if I was part of the dream, but I'm watching this dream happen, and my grandmother comes and she sits down between them. They couldn't see her at all, but she looked directly at me and just smiled and nodded her head, Oh
wow, as she would do. Yeah. So I just just want to point out we are halfway through this interview and I don't think we've asked you a single question. So this is actually the easiest thing we've ever done. We just teed up and let Reagan and take it. Yeah, now we do have to take it. We do have to take them. So before we continue the conversation, we've gone through the past life and the death experience. From there, it opens up the gateway into the afterlife. When we
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to the Skeptic Metaphysicians. We're talking to Reaganforson, who is taking us to Heaven. Right. I'm so excited because Heavenly Tour guys. Oh my god, why did I not think about that? In fact, I think we found our episode title, Reagan Heaven lead to our guide. Okay, before the break, we talked about how you use past life regressions as the gateway to get you into the actual life. It makes perfect sense. You go
to the end time and then where do we go from there? Beyond that, instead of coming back or going to another life, we now follow them. Right, I'm assuming that's exactly what you do. Yeah, you go back home, spend some time there and play on your next journey. In the research, we've don't know a socials choose off to come back and not everybody that God creates has incarnations and force. So souls have been created are
all the time behind the scenes. You know they're behind the scenes, but it seems like every soul has they're doing work, and it seems like there's a progression when for a lot of people, once you become God realized in a sense where you're I say, your love quoting is really really great, and you pass on in a line of times, you'll take jobs as being on a council. It's kind of like if you're in the sixth grade and there's people in the fifth grade. There's things you know that they don't know
yet. Okay, but if you're really really loving and that person down there you see needs to need something, you kind of reach down and kind of help them loan. But then you look above yourself and there's someone in the seventh grade it's reaching down to you to kind of help you go off, you know. So there's that kind of camaraderie of that love. There's no we've knocked shown anything of the negative nature at all in this sense that people
have no one's experience like evil demons or anything like that. It's just if you experience it, you just you feel in a sense like amswer having it. It's just like buckets of land just poured over you, you know, and that's what it's just that's the best win. Canna explain that it's it's other world in a sense. Maybe maybe that should be the episode title. I love that. I love that. Yeah, So I'm a question for
you. We've spoken with a bunch of different people that I've had near death experiences, and sometimes the things I say are similar and sometimes they're different in your experience. Is heaven the same for everyone? Twenty eight of his therapist We swapped positions. The very first session that I did was from a person. It was a medium from Australia. You have TV show and everything over there, and he wanted to go through a session. And here's what I've
learned, trending in by man wholes like the sticks. So I've got the pages as I'm going like this and I'm taken to a past life and all of a sudd he goes Reagan and what he says, I'm already in the fast life, Like okay, so I gotta go with the so far he was he ended up being a little girl. He was a girl about eight or nine years old, was carrying two buckets of water, and and I said, where do you where the water? First? She said, they're
sure the horses. And I forget what the little girl's day was telling this, because I'd say half the time, especially the women that I do the sessions with. And by the way, about seventy percent of the sessions are done. Are of these seventy thousand cases are women and about thirty percent the man seems like women are so much there, you know how you know this guy's are a little brain dead, So, you know, hard hard for us to get vulnerable. Its hard for us on the hard a little bit
more. Once again, Reagan is calling me out personally. I'm trying to get a little you know, get a little complex here. Okay, I just say me. I'll just say me. So this man who's in the past life now and is a little girl with the two buckets of water, I say, well, let's let's go home and and see where the horses are. And she goes, I can't, I can't, I said, why, I says, I came across this road, and so why can't you cross this road, says, because this wagon that's coming down the road
is going to run over and kill me. So here's my first section. There's this little girl in this other life. Heck, if I'm telling her to cross that road, where she's going to give I mean, this is my first I went, okay. Luckily, what happened was the higher self of my client speaks and says she needs to go through the experience. Tell her to cross the room. Okay, it's off for me. Now he's tell avised to tell that little girl who he was in another life plane across
the road and being killed and just just fallowing order his boss. So all of a sudden, I said, what's happening? And she says, I'm bleeding out the wagon his father run over this little girl. And I said, okay, you know went to three. You're you're out of your body. He says, no, I need to experience us. So I was quiet a little bit, and then the little girl sent us you know through him, says okay, I'm finished down. I said, well, what happened? She says, well, like I die but by my body.
And I says, are you ready to go back home? Now? She says no, she says, I have to stay here with the man that drove the wagon. He said he's beside himself because he just ran over and killed a little girl. I thought, wow, how beautiful that and said, just shows you the love that's there for souls from there. So anyway, there was more that session, but that would be another show. I
can tell you. There's all these crazy that doesn't want to really really back in for a second because I want to go back to Karen's question, because her question was, in your experience, does everyone experience the same thing when they go to heaven or is everyone's experience of heaven different? Yes, okay, that's twenty. I think we asked the same questions. And then we when we came back and we all did our report when we experienced, we
sent it to someone else in the institute there. They put it all together, a PowerPoint everything, and I asked just the way and last question I had and before the council, we'll talk about the council of a minute. They've asking questions. Then I call of late. See they sees a Chinese
for me. My guide was had six of them there, but he's the one they've always is the one I seemed to talk to or that seems, of course to communicate with me. I said, this place that you're allowing us to bring people to so that they can experience have this beautiful experience of
heaven is this? It is this heaven like just these because we've fault about eight different places so far, which covers a whole bunch of stuff that people do when they're over there, and the guide different then yeah, So the guide, I says, is this, and he goes, You're gonna miss me here, but he goes, he goes, and he just like this. You haven't seen everything yet, you know. So what he was telling me I think was this is this is kind of like heaven one oh one.
You know, it's it's opened up for people to get a glimn And the main reasons that they're getting a glimpse is they want people to realize that their life has meeting and purpose, they have a mission, they have something they wanted to learn, something they want to help teach other people or learn
themselves, and the fact that they're never alone. All these seventy thousand people, every single one of them is how to guide or someone that's kind of assigned to them that they Sometimes my clients will recognize them start crying because it's someone all of a sudden, they recognize, Oh, there's and so someone that they love from the other side, and they're getting to see them again, you know, like like a friend you haven't seen for a long time.
It's like, you know, when you come back having that experience. What they're hoping will happen is is that people will get to work. They know what their mission is. Now most people find out that they're in the middle of their mission, that they're doing it, but they just it's nice to get that confirmation that you're in life, that you're really doing what you're supposed to be doing. Sometimes they'll say you need to step it up a
bit. You know, people are kind of gotten sidebacked a little bit in that, and they'll say, I like it. You might kind of get a little bit get into it, get it. Yeah, so that Lively son. Yeah, so I think you know, it's just like heaven and
everything we're learning over there. We're just we're learning because see, even having this session, we've somehow chosen this lifetime, you both and I We've chosen to be this is where we need to concentrate mostly out because this is the class we're in right now, this is what we're studying and everything, you know, but it is nice to know that we had other classes and we learned other things and other lifetimes and things that are helping us to be better
people in this lifetime. So, in other words, they don't want people just spending their head in the clouds all the time, because hey, you've got to get to work, and that's what this does. I mean, people have written me a couple of years even after they had a session and just said, you know what, ever, since that day, life should just been different from me. I've looked at people different. I've found more joy and happiness of my life. I'm not, you know, bitching about
how hard everything is. And they're not playing the role anymore because they know that they signed up to have tough things happen to them that they had to work through. I have had some experiences over there when I have clients in this deep state of trance which they get into very easily, and they're experiencing the other side that humor is a huge part of heaven or this is the other side, thank God. I mean, yeah, if you can't. If you can't have a sense of humor about dying, I don't know what
else you what you can have to can send a humor about well. What was interesting was I had a client and her life is centered around lightness and love and humor and everything. And when she's in this process and she meets her guide and she's describing the guide to me and everything. And then so usually what we do is we say, well, so we can communicate properly with this guide, asked the guy that she'll give us his name so we can like us humans do just each other. They're by name or everything.
Shit. And the Guide says, just call me Bond. She started season. She's in trance now, of course, and because she has the supersense of Hubert, she starts laughing so hard. I'm sitting next to her. I took this half an hour to get her deep in trance and she starts laughing so hard, belly heaven. I started laughing so hard that way, and she said the Guide was doing the same thing, you know, And it was an introducted later on in that session, I happened to think be
as a researcher, we always thinking a new questions, asking everything. But I asked the guy because it seemed that her theme there was lightness and love, that it was just a beautiful session we were doing. And I said, is there comedy clubs in Heaven? And he goes, sure instantly, she's in this quimp. There's these other souls of the there there's a guy. She said. It reminded him of Rodney Dangerfield. This whole thing is about love and light okay. So all of a sudden, I said,
well, you know she's there. It's just like comedy club on the other side. And she said, which, it looks like Rodney days Field. I'm not sure if Tim was kind of like Ken. He's making the same kind of jokes. So Rodney, whoever that was, you did a joke and all of a sudden, wings pink appeared on him and the audience is laughing like crazy. She's laughing like crazy. I says, what was the
joke? She says, I don't know, but everybody's lapping so or and I'm laughing, you know, he says, I guess, I guess it was like an impact joke, you know, like yah me and having to kind of understand what that he was but then herefore it was beautiful. Though I started asking more questions. I said, well, ask ask your guide. They're like, what's the importance of humor down here? He proceeded to do about a ten minute through her talking. You know, she would repeat
exactly what he was saying through her. It's all about the describing, like love is like if you picture a pie, you know, different sections like they do on power point and everything, and humor was a huge part of love. I just remember that that visual image that she gave me. Every session is similar because everybody through basically till play, they're the same kind of
process that they've lined up for people's experience over there. But because everybody's at a different rate of unfoldment or whatever, we're all individual, the sessions have uniqueness to them, which is just I mean, the hair stands up on my arms sometimes I'm sitting next to these people and they're in the afterlife having these beautiful experiences. So a couple of questions. Let me first start with the obvious one. You're hypnotizing, right, You're bringing them into hypnosis to
do past life progression. So first the question is when you get to a certain level theata waves or I think it is or whatever whatever level that you get to. Yeah, it's also at the level where they say you reach the collective unconscious. So if that's the case, and that's when you're really accessing your creative thoughts, could this everything that we are talking about now just be a creation, a fiction, us kind of creating a story for ourselves.
What makes you think that specifically this is not just something making up or rather we are actually crossing over and remembering things that happened between lives. Yeah, that's a that's a really good question. And the research we're doing we're constantly wondering about that. You know. The simplest thing is, well, whether we're making enough or whether it's real, it has a super beneficial emotional and physiological effect on your body that makes life better or easier or seems to
be more understanding. So whatever it is, it's a good thing, you know, even if we're just making enough. When I find though, is the fact that, Okay, of the different stations they go to, this would be a good time to bring in there. Almost all of my client's experience going before council getting your questions answered. The counsels are generally unique to each person. Some people have three or four elders or people on there.
Sometimes people have twenty or thirty, but generally it's five or six. You know, it's like an intimate group, and they can answer, they can get questions about their life answered and everything. And then from there we asked
you they have permission to go to their soul group. And these are souls that you generally they're saying they're your favorites, you know, like on the other side, you like here on earth, we have friends, good friends that were really close to Soul groups could range from ten to twenty or thirty or forty. But then there's subgroups of those. Sometimes there's people that come from other acting troops in a sense to come in and to be at our
play. But here's what really makes it real to me. For instance, I'll give you an example, as I had a woman come to me whose husband had hung himself and killed himself, and she was totally beside herself. This man she loved for every hells of everything. She was loved this man. And she came home and he was hanging in the garage and she had not been able to work. She'd been going to therapist, and a therapist that knew the work that I did didn't seem to be getting anywhere with her.
So he says, look, this may seem kind of weird, but here's Reagan's number, and maybe he can help you contact your husband on the other side and you can find out why he did this horrible thing and what's going on. So she came to me, not believing in this process, just desperate to do something. Okay, she was one of the easiest client. I mean just she went. She went got really deep there and went
to a past life. And then we asked if the guy to grow with He said, well, you probably know why we were here, but in case you don't, you know, I'm gonna just say, my client here, her husband killed herself and she's wondering if she could see him. They said yes, but just for a short time, just for a few minutes. And so all of a sudden, there he was, and oh my
gosh, my client is her client. She's just crying like crazy. I'm crying like crazy because I'm feeling all the emotion because she goes, this is here. His is hair me know, Oh, oh my gosh. And so she asked why did you do that? You apologize? He says, I'm so so sorry. She says, had nothing to do with you.
He says, there was some stuff I was dealing with from childhood abuse and things that I never told you about, and it just overcame me and I just he says, when I hung myself in a way that I could not do it. But I wish I could have done it, he said, but it was just too late and I couldn't. And he said, sweetheart. She says, look, I'm so sorry, and I hope when you pass away we're back together again, if we get to do this over again
or something, because I'd love you, we're soul mates or whatever. We're going to just give it another trying. And that you could see that. That made her feel good. But then the guide, another guide comes in and said us all the time you had, And then he's looking at her and he says. She says, I'm so afraid where they're taking me. I said, we'll ask him Ony, you know, because his reasons were they taking him? And he tells her these guides are taking him to show
him what his life could have been like if he hadn't killed himself. Another res he'd hung in their lord. Now that made it real to me because that's what in the answer I mean, doesn't that seem like the most loving
thing that you could be done. On the other side, that they know you goofed up that you didn't you know, you took the easy way out because of your humanness, and you blew your mission in a way, you know, and they just I believe they wanted to show him so that it would instill in him when you go down and try it again, you could do it next time, you know, don't don't take that way out.
So let's just, oh gosh, these there's so much emotion. So that's what makes us so real is the fact that now after her having the session, she still missed him like crazy. She still had a grieving process to go through, but some heaviness lifted off of her because she realized it wasn't her fault. She got to see him and realize they're going to be together again and couldn't appalled she from him. So did she make it up?
Did it all enter something? Well, it sure was good. You have all the answers for us, because you've talked to so many different people about this. You have the answers of what happens in the afterlife. So I think we can have you back seventeen times and still not go through all the informations. Yeah, so I got asked the big question because we're getting close to running on time, and this is the question that everybody listening is begging
me to ask at least. Okay, so I'd like to tell myself in all of these sessions that you've done, what have they said or has anyone said about God? What is God? Have they met God? Is there God? What is God? Okay? Here's another thing that this makes this seem so real to me when people on the other side say, what can I see God? Or where's God? This place? So there's portalis and
open people feel the presence, they call it the presence over there. They feel the presence much more than we do here, like they're closer in some sense to that. But it's almost like God is still beyond colormprehension even there in heaven. It's not like you can go up and shake his hand or something like he's a person or something. You know, like he's this loving presence that people feel that know that this presence is there, But what is
this presence? You know, we could we seem to have to think of it in a bodily for it, but it's it's this colleciousness or there's something that's not male or female, or it's just lung, you know, this collesciousness. So in this part of heaven anyway, now, people that have been Christian to come to me, I make sure that I ask over there
is Jesus around and can they have a conversation with them? Every single Christian that's come to me and done that has had a personal audience with Jesus, tears are running down their eyes when they feel a love of Jesus and the things that he tells them and stuff. It's just like you would think Jesus
would be total love, acceptance and that. But for people that are you know, other, you know, it's like Jesus is part of people's life and he is part of this big equation and very very important for a lot of people, but he's not everything, you know. I mean there's like people ask what's the one religion? You know, they go, God, okay, now here I am tell me the one religion. I'm going to start it tomorrow, you know, doing that. It's the Church of Will
here so far we've got. When they ask about that, they say, if you feel you need a religion, choose one. If one speaks to you, then it's going to help you in your mission. It's going to help you to be more loving because you're going to feel like you need to
have a religion. Then go ahead. When we ask what's the one practice you know because people say, Okay, I'm here right now, but I know I'm going to go back to my body and I'm going to be like death of duty again, like be able to have this experience, and they say meditation. They say that. They'll say, if you want to kind of keep connected, if you want to have your intuition improve so that you can hear the thoughts or to hear that, what we're trying to help you
with that meditation. And again the people are meditation. I could do a whole show on that sometimes I want to, because meditation is people have this vision that meditation is just one thing where you're just sitting in the lowest position for hours at a time and you're just aching and you can't stand it because you're being in one place for so long. There are so many ways to meditate, you know, there's you can meditate for two minutes a day.
They just want you to make that connection where you're like when I was coming back, one of the big things. When I was coming back, I felt I was above the world. I was. I had this feeling I could see the Earth and it just looked, Oh my gosh, this beautiful ball in space just slowly moving around, and it just it just wow, what's the most beautiful place? Because I started getting a little closer, I
started feeling physical pain, and like I stunned me. He says, what you're feeling, and you're feeling old then of the earth, all the emotion that people are having, because you can imagine, like at this moment right now, if we had to, we would explode. We had to take a million of the pain going on people's emotions, right And then he said, he said to me, are you sure you want to do this work,
which is what I'm doing this thing? Here? Here's this guy right there, and I said, fs yeah, right, the radio stations are saying thank you right now, right But that's how deeply I could feel it, like I was making this choice to do this work. He said, Okay, if you want to do this work, I'm going to tell you four things to do. And if you don't do these four things or physical body is going to get sick when they're going to die. I said, okay, listen, now, well what do you want to do? Because
we're dealing with energy here, and good or bad how this is. It's it's a powerful amount of energy. And wouldn't be sitting next to these people at the time and experience that all the time. My physical vehicle here can only deal so much. So he said this, and this would be good for anybody. He says, when you wake up in the morning, do so sort of spiritual exercise, which means disacknowledging. You know, like I heard in my mind. This is the thing is It's almost like I'm hearing
things. I'm hearing a prayer in my mind. Is he saying is? And what I heard was bless this day and those that I serve. It is I keep one foot in heaven and one foot planet firmly on earth to
accomplish my mission of being kind at any costs. And because kindness, I found out was one of the things that I came down here to learn and then the second thing he said, he said, oh, okay, now they're showing me a picture in my mind of an hourglass, and I'm seeing clients, and you know how the hourglasses of course look and I'm seeing clients, and the sand is piling up and piling up and piling up, and nothing's going through to the bottom. And he says, if the sand gets
to the top, your toast bye bye. So when I saw myself when he said do spiritual exercises, I can see myself doing that. I started seeing Sam going down to the bottom. The second thing was he said, spend more time than nature, because nature's God's way. And we all know that somehow, you go for a walk along the beach, or you're woods somewhere, there's something that heals you. There's something beautiful about that. You know, we all seem to just do that naturally. You know, we
know that we go into nature, we're going to somehow heal. So I saw Sam going down. The third thing was she said, do as many random acts of kindness as you can. In my mind, I saw myself picking up a piece of trash that wasn't mine, just a little piece of trash, and someone else's I put a thing and I could see sand going down to the bottom. And the fourth thing, he says, talk to other therapists, regular therapists that are dealing with people's problems, will they ask
them how do they ground themselves? How do they do that? Have it pretty good? Pretty good? To doing most of that good? Way? So good? I think maybe a B minus or maybe a beat that you know, that's that way happen. We still do a little bit pretty good, you know. Yeah, And those are great, great tips for anyone to eat, anyone to do. Yeah. Absolutely, And now you're you're
doing all these tips to keep yourself alive. And I have one last question that I have to know, after all of these sessions and experiences, how do you feel about your own death? Like? Are you okay when it comes? Are you anxious about it? Great question because look at me. I'm in my mid seventies now, and when I was praying to the day, I was thinking, here's where my thoughts were. It's like, I
feel like I'm just getting prying of things here. So I say, now, don't take me yet, because I'm just I think I could do some good here now because I'm starting to get I get the ang of this, and it's starting to get really fun in life. You look really healthy to me, Reagan, I don't think you have anything to worry about it. You're fine. You're fine. I'm doing pretty good. But I would say even though that human part of me now we're a test here. Life is
good. But from experiencing every only clients, these hundreds of at least past lives, and how they feel when they're out of the body like this is so great, and me being there a couple of times and knowing that, I just know when I leave this physical body and I'm looking down at it, you know I'm part of the bigger picture again, I'm going to be going, wow, cool, I can't wait to come back, and or do I want to come back again? You know? Right right? But
I because you look at the way the world's going right now. So if I go to say, in ten years, I'm wondering what's in thirty or forty or fifty years is are we going to be a reality anymore? What's going to happen? And we think about that for a daughter. Actually it's say something it's very very much in the now. If we I mean you guys are cool. I left the way you do your show and everything like
that too. But happening quantity. We could do another show because I wanted to get into today, but we don't have telling of the quantum healing hypnosis, which is what I've incorporated in light and about physical healings that happened to some types to people over there, and especially emotional healings that happened, and
also about the other different stations. There's the some people experience the station where they can actually go back and they can see when they chose their current life, Like you're looking down and you can it's so interesting what you know, how they explain that where you're seeing this process of how do you choose another
life? There's little the library some people go to. Usually they'll set them down in front of a book and if a guide will get a book and you're paging it through and it has everything you've ever been since you were born, and what if you don't read, Yeah, there are people out there
they hate to read in English. Well, there are their audiobooks. Can you listen to the books and the pages that my clients have described it as pages of light and they know they're getting on some level, they're seeing everything, but their physical self can't really tell you exactly what that was. But they said, they just say, I just know I'm seeing everything and on
some level I'm getting that. There's a place of rejuvenation where people go and sometimes they don't want they don't want to go on to another part of him because they love it so much. Or they can feel their their whole inner health and body being plans and clean. Oh my gosh, there's so many stories of that. Great. So there's a lot, there's a lot there that we've discovered that you can't get over it. Talk about in an hour, you know, Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna have to get you back
now. So just to summarize really quickly, because we are way out of time, but you actually bring people into a hypnotic state that allows them to trans for their consciousness to a time when they were in between lives and they
can actually go there and speak to and experience Heaven. Speak to anyone in Heaven, speak to Jesus, hang out with good old Jay himself, hang out with your guardian angels or your spirits or whatever you believe, and you can stay there as long as you want, you can get it whatever answers you want, whatever answers you want, and then come back and not have any kind of adverse reactions or anything like that. That sounds like heaven on
Earth. Yeah, definitely. And the best thing about it is that anybody within the sound of our voice right now, anybody could reach out to you and get that done right now. This is not an exclusive thing that just kings and queens get an access to. Right any joke schmoll like Will and Karen could actually get this done. And we've been we tried, We tried hard to get it, to get it together. We weren't able to connect it. But maybe for the next one we'll be able to handle something like
that. Yeah, okay, because I have a bit of a waiting risk, but I but it's not as bad as it went with Michael Newton. He had four year waiting list when he was doing h my gosh. Now we have two hundred and fifty of us. As people go to Newton Institute dot org and they can go they can look for a therapist in there are the two hundred and fifty of us. And when I say to people, well, like people when they find me on there, they go, well, there was these three or four, but I just felt I'd saw your
face or something and I just knew here with the one. And it seems to work out good that way. So if they can have a session, I'm happy to help them find someone in their area. If there's not anybody, we can do it online. I have one like other therapist house, so how she's here. She's actually on the board now and she's been just doing so many of these in India in the middle of the night or whenever
she's up whatever. It's just one person out of another, none other on and some therapists now are preferring just to do it on zoom because it's just so much easier. ID love to do it in person the most, but on zoom. You know. I did one in Philadelphia last week. It was really really great, connected with a really good person. We had a a plus session. So you know, people go say, quote by your gup, Hey he's reading the right guy for me? Or do I need
to find somebody else? Yeah, but what's I called? Visit the afterlife dot com right, Yeah, there's two ts. Yeah, visit the afterlife dot com. Great videos on there. You can see actually a young lady going through the process on there, and there's a seat. Michael Newton's on there talking about before he passed away. We have some things, So there's some really good information on there. Sally, contact me on the contact page ors phone number in there, and I'm happy to help anybody come my way.
Excellent. We're going to add direct links in our show notes to your website and to the books that you mentioned. Everything one stop shop and when it comes to reinforced and just go to skepticmenusition dot com go to his episode page. You'll see all the stuff they are directly laid in for you. So it makes it super easy to contact you. Regan, thank you so
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