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6-24-25 - 7am - Iranian Regime

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Speaker 1

My lord, are you needy? I ride on the back window of my truck. My Goober number is fifteen twenty. And if you're at Guber two and then I list, Michael says, go here dot com. And then you still want talkbacks, you are insatiable.

Speaker 2

Yeah, pretty much. So sounds about right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

We were told last night that let's go back. I still believe that the strikes on the three nuke sites inside Iran was a tactical success.

Speaker 2

It set them back.

Speaker 3

As I said yesterday, we don't know for sure what the damage assessments are yet, so we don't know to what extent it is that they have accomplished what they want to accomplish. But nonetheless that doesn't take away from the success of it, because either you and this is where I think we still have problems with Trump's language. We don't know that, for example, that it was a complete obliteration this it was kind of It was interesting

last night because JD. Vance appears on Brett Bear's show at four o'clock our time, and they're reading a announcement that Trump's made on truth Social about the cease fire, and Brett Bear and JD. Vance, the Vice President are going back and forth about the word obliteration, and I understand exactly what Brett Bear was getting at, because the word obliteration is the action or fact of obliterating or being obliterate. Total destruction is the way I would define

it total destruction. So if you have totally destroyed Iran's ability to build a nuke, then indeed that is obliteration. If you have destroyed it enough that you they still have enough equipment, they've got some centrifuges hidden somewhere that's at sixty percent or greater, that's at some site we don't know about, then you haven't obliterated it.

Speaker 2

You have.

Speaker 3

I would even say destroyed. You have disrupted it. And whether that's a disruption for one year, five years, or twenty years doesn't make any difference. That is still a tactical success because you have bought time for whatever, including negotiations, including time for the Israelis and Massad and the IDEF to do whatever else they need to do, or just all out war between the two countries again not US,

but between Israel and around. So I still consider that to be a tactical success, and I think you should too.

Speaker 2

It also shows our ability.

Speaker 3

Now, I don't know how we're going to get accurate damage assessments unless somehow Massad has some operatives that can get in there, and which would not be far fetched in my mind, because we know for a fact that Massad had operatives on the ground prior to our bomb a few days ago. So they may still be there, and they may have informants, they may have some spies, they may have some access to information that would give

us some good damnage assessments. Maybe the IAEA, although I don't trust them, maybe they can get in and they can do some assessments. But the quibbling yesterday over obliteration versus you know, you've you've destroyed or delayed or disrupted. I think disrupts probably the best word. You have disrupted their nuclear program. I think that remains open either way.

It was a tactical success, and I think that, you know, when people compare Trump's presidency to reality TV show, there's probably still some truth to that, but that conceit.

Speaker 2

Oh, it's just a reality TV show.

Speaker 3

It does, however, capture the radical strangeness of his leadership, which is, as I said, I think a nice way to put it as opposed to radical strangeness would be the head fakes that he's engaged in. He's a master of persuasion. He is a master at the head fake. He tries to shape world events through confusion, big bombs, capital letters, head fakes, you know, misdirections, all of that. When he announced last night on truth, social and all caps,

the ceasefire is now in effect. Please do not violate it, well for an hour or so, Well for an hour or so. When I look back on the timeline, for me, I go to bed thinking, oh, that's interesting. A cease fire, I admit I don't believe it, because I don't think that absent some statement from the Iranians, which I've not heard either than I guess we've heard it in directly by them launching an attack on Israel, which by the way,

made a direct hit on a civilian location. It was a direct hit that killed the people in their bomb shelter. That's what the Iranians did. The Israelers do not attack civilian targets and have not attacked civilian targets. They've been attacking military installations and military targets in Iran. So when the ceasefire is announced, I'm skeptical, and then you know, until I go to bed, it seems like.

Speaker 2

He might be right.

Speaker 3

Iran and Israel might have made, you know, the right noises through the right channels about a cessation of fire. But then this morning, according to the idea, they the Iranians launched that missile at Israel, and Israel rightfully so retaliated, particularly because you know, I would say, if you wanted to play this out of all the different scenarios, if the Iranians had like they did with us, they launched

fourteen missiles at our base. Was it in Cutter or wherever it was, that would nowhere near the actual base, and according to Trump, we had heads up that they were going to do that. Okay, you need to do something. They the Iranians need to do something domestically to show that the regime is still in charge, to try to quell any uprising that might be stirring, which we don't know because we don't have much real good intel or

information coming out of there right now. Because the Israelis did the right thing and they disrupted their news networks too, so good for them, which is state.

Speaker 2

Run, not civilian state run.

Speaker 3

When they made that direct hint. Israel did the only thing I would expect him to do, and that was to fire back. They launched another missile, and the war is back on again.

Speaker 2

I don't know. My TV is frozen right now.

Speaker 3

The Trump headlines are well as you would expect Drudge to be. Ceasefire falters, Trump goes berserk, drops off bomb on Life TV, which I just listened to again and he really did drop it. Updates blah blah blah. So you know it's on again, off again. Nobody really knows. Some sources are suggesting that a ceasefire might not be working because so many Iranian officials have actually fled, they've gone into hiding or they've been killed, and their troops

don't know whether stop firing or not. They don't know what to do, so they reflexively do what they've been trained to do, which is, Okay, it's nighttime, let's launch some missiles, and they do regardless. By the time Trump woke up again, the conflict that he had dubbed the twelve day war last night, at least on social media, might be well headed toward a second week of hostilities. None of us should be surprised by this. I think we have to be objective and think to ourselves. So

I'll say it out loud. I think Trump spoke too soon last night. Remember yesterday on the program when I talked about we we still have to wait to see what happens next. I think we're starting to see what happens next. So the twelve day war, I think is Trump's attemper And again, man, I say all of this knowing that we're all being played and it is all

ahead fake. And He's making this announcement about a cease fire knowing that the Iranians may still launch something and the Israelis may still launch back.

Speaker 2

And vbi's told Trump that they're you know.

Speaker 3

And Yahu said, we're going to do that, and Trump said, okay, but you know, I'm going to announce the cease fire because I want to, you know, head fake the Iranians into thinking that we've kind of when I say we, both the Americans and the Israelis and all of our allies have considered, okay, we've done everything we're going to do. I think that may be the real situation, the actual situation on the ground. He announces the two weeks. You know, I'm going to give him two weeks or they have

two weeks to do something. He acts within two days. There's no question in my mind that the Israelis knew that was coming. The Israelis let it obviously, Sure, this is what we want you to do.

Speaker 2

Go in and do it. So we go in and do it.

Speaker 3

Trump announces the ceasefire, trying to lure the Iranians into thinking that the Israelis won't do anything. The Iranians, of course, thinking the Israelis, you know, are because they will follow whatever we say to do. Wink wink, the Iranians will lob a missile and we're back to where we are.

But what's changed the damage to the nuclear facilities. I think Trump at times senses the hand of the Almighty in all of this, because he did muse after announcing the ceasefire in a certain and very ironic way, that perfect hit late in the evening, brought everyone together, and the deal was made head fake or factual, I don't know. The b two strikes then had become, at least in Trump's mind, another miracle along the way of him of

his odyssey. Divine providence made the bullets missing Butler when they tried to assassinate him, and the massive bombs in Iran on Saturday brought about peace, so he's kind of channeling the Good Lord. And Trump also told both Israel and around both nations will see tremendous love, peace, and prosperity in their futures. They have so much to gain and yet so much to lose if they stray fen the road of righteousness and truth. The future for Israel

and Iran is unlimited and filled with great promise. God bless you both, God bless you both. That's kind of interesting. That's why I think there's still head fachs going on. If Iran is just into deceased fire before it began, or before it began, then how will Trump, to peacemaker respond to such a clear abrogation of his demands that

they not do anything. What seems certain is that, other than a desire to play kate Trump through Katari inner mediaries, the incentives for Iran and Israel to keep warring I think are still in place now. Iran may have officially saved face with its telegraph strikes at the bases in Qatar and then Iran yesterday, but the Iranian regime cannot payper. They just simply cannot paper over the humiliations of the

last few days. They just can't do that. But Israel can see that the Iranian regime is buckling on the steps of the escalation ladder. They're trying, and every time they try, that gives Israel a chance to go in and take out even more of their launch pads, their launch facilities, and take out even more if they can of the leadership.

Speaker 2

And I don't mind that.

Speaker 3

And I don't mind that because if we're going to see I'm going to use the phrase regime change, If we're going to see regime change in Iran, then the environment has to be such that there can be a natural regime change. We should have learned over the past twenty five years that our country, and I certainly don't think the Israelis too, but certainly this country cannot walk into another country and take it from a in the case of a Iran, a theoretic a theocratic despot tyranny,

and overnight turn it into a democracy. The objective should be if we can at least get rid of the theocratic tyranny, the the the iyatolas, and then let the people figure out what the hell they want to do next, then I think the Israelis ought to be allowed to continue to create enough chaos so that somewhere, somehow, whether it's the Shaw's Sun who's still in exile I think in this country can get back and lead an uprising, or whether there are some people and Massade very well

may have identified people within country that could start an uprising, then Israel ought to be given a free hand to continue to do what it wants to do, to allow time for that fermentation to occur, so that whatever those people or wherever those people are, whether they're in this country, because there's a diaspora all over the world of Iranians who escape back in nineteen seventy nine who want to return their country back to some sort of you know,

freedom and liberty, whatever version of that they may see. So it's possible that the Israelis felt that a pause in the violence now or at least these limited strikes would actually help overthrow that theocratic regime. Yet that would be kind of an interesting pivot from the IDF's Maximalust campaign against the IRGC, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. Israel's defense ministers this morning promised intense strikes in return, and

then Trump responds, Israel, do not drop those bombs. If you do it as a major violation, bring your pilots home now, Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, which I find kind of ironic. We kind of know who you are, mister President. Again, a head fake, a very potential head fake. So as peace is declared, what

do we have? Well, as peace is declared, the war's really still going on in a certain and a very ironic way, or perhaps in in an unreal trumping update to George Orwell's nineteen eighty four pieces War and Strength is ignorance. But either way, I would just caution all of us, be you aware of the head fakes. Israel has made it known and made it clear, and I'm sure they've made I'm sure night Yaill's made it clear to Trump that thank you for doing what you did.

That gives us some flexibility. The Iotota is still in hiding. Pluton has told the Uranians, I'm not giving you any weapons. China remains completely silent. This war isn't over yet, and regime chain may still occur. But all we've done is get rid of those facilities.

Speaker 4

Why don't those morons figure out a way to crack down on the cars that have no tags, no license plate, expired, temporary tag, expire tags because you know they're not paying anything they could. Polus is missing out on a whole lot of quote fees on that, plus.

Speaker 5

They don't have insurance. The scumballs.

Speaker 2

Did you have the first hour?

Speaker 3

Because the lawlessness is they don't care about those people. They only care about you, law abiding citizens. It's like with guns, and every gun law passed by the Colorado Public Bureau this year has to do with law abiding citizens because the criminals are not.

Speaker 2

Going to follow the laws. They don't care.

Speaker 3

They don't give a rats ask whether somebody's eighteen or twenty one years old. They don't care about whether they've gone through a training course or not a training course. They don't care because they don't buy guns from gun dealers, from FFLs. They buy guns on Well, they're gon have to move off Federal Boulevard because apparently there's gonna be some construction up there. But everything is designed to punish you, not them. And once you get that mindset, you'll understand

just exactly how bad things are. So let's go back to Iran for a moment and let in fact, that's let's go specifically to Iran. I actually hold the Iranian people in very high regard and they they have suffered tremendously.

Speaker 2

You know, if you go.

Speaker 3

Back in history when the when when the camels lazed in the sun on the Arabian Peninsula, the Persians were actually leading a very grand civilization. And although the greatness of Persia is now history, the Iranian people are intellectually and culturally sophisticated now. Even inside the Islamist extremist regime that's been fashioned by the Ayatola Komine, there are some bright stars who have too often put their European and American interlocateurs to shame. For those and some other reasons

I have. I have been kind of shocked by the ineptmist, the incompetence, and the down right stupidity of the Iranian government in managing its relationship with the rest of the world, until I realized, oh wait a minute, this we have to stop. Start with the premise that the Ayatola, the Molas, the theocracy.

Speaker 2

That leads Persia Iran, they're nuts.

Speaker 3

They're they're so filled with their ideology of hatred toward the Infidels, betward toward Judaism, toward toward Christians Christendom. So between Israel and the United States, the Great Satan and the Little Satan. That's why they completely miss mismanage their relationships with the rest.

Speaker 5

Of the world.

Speaker 3

And when I say the rest of the world, I will include Russia and China in that too. One of the most fascinating things that I read last night was the story about how the president of Iran, which is separate from the Ayatola, the President of Iran, goes to Moscow and meets with Putin. They sign some sort of an agreement, but there is no mutual defense accord in that agreement, and Putin refuses to provide any sort of

military armaments to the Iranians. Now they have a mutual defense agreement, but Putin's basically already thrown that aside and said, yeah, well you can ask me for whatever you want. You're not getting squat. Yeah, you're not getting anything. And the Chinese have just gone dark, the Chinese Communist Party has

totally gone dark. So the Iranians are at this point truly id and I gets some theories that's why this is and I don't want to digress into just, you know, a bunch of nerdy musings on Persian history, but developing, developing, Maybe just a better understanding of how this regime must be thinking and makes decisions might tell us a lot about the coming weeks and the coming months. So I don't want to indulge in well, because I'm not I'm certainly can't claim to be any sort of scholar. But

what spawned the Islamic Republic? And no, it wasn't the CIA, and it wasn't just a Shaw, and it wasn't even only Jimmy Carter's fault. Most Iran watchers agree that this is a deeply ideological regime. Ever since the end of the Cold War, the United States has thought little about that ideology, at least not in the grand sense of communism or Islamism, but an understanding of the centrality of

Islamist ideology to the Islamic Republic of Iran. I don't think we can begin to predict what their choices are. Kameny himself gave the game away saying, and I quote, I have said time and time again that to build a society on the basis of the principles of Islam is an ideological choice, not just a religious one.

Speaker 2

Islam, in fact, is.

Speaker 3

An ideology in which religion represents one aspect. The centrality of Islamist theology. Of Islamist ideology is actually enshrine in the Islamic Republic of Iran's constitution and infuses every aspect of their governance. This from the Washington Institute, I think explains the ioto's ideology pretty well. Listen, both leaders of the Islamic Republic, Komena and Kammona, exhibit an unwaving ideological

commitment with little difference and outlook. A recent survey by Radio Farda of Kammone's speeches in twenty twenty three found that he used the term enemy no fewer than three hundred and seventy three times and mentioned US two hundred and ninety nine times, not a single reference to Russia or China. On average, Enemy appeared seven times per speech. In Kammone's rhetoric, resistance against the enemy, however, vague, has

become a foundational pillar of his ideology. It is the United States of America and our allies principally israel ideology Inside the uranium government is is not the luxury that the din dozens of New York and San Francisco understand. I just don't think the elites in this country understand it at all. I think it's intrinsic to the thinking

and the worldview of the Ranian decision makers. This regime has reigned for forty six years now, and most of the country, in fact, it's entire political echelon, grew up in, were educated by, and they sign on to Kuminaz's mix of Shia's supremacist theocracy and the imperative to export their revolution.

Speaker 2

And we are the main.

Speaker 3

Obstacles to that, well Israel. Israel and the United States are the main obstacles to that, you know, even Europe. But I'm not going to digress down there. That ideology that the Washington Institute described is the is the Iotolis and Namola's reality. An expert on Iran, Hannah A. Rent, wrote very incisively some forty years ago, just as terror, even in its pre total, merely tyrannical form, ruins all relationships between men, so the self compulsion of ideological thinking

ruins all relationships with reality. That is, our so called partner in that JCPOA the.

Speaker 2

Iran nuclear deal.

Speaker 3

So comprehending that Iran is not the country too many inside, I think even our own government believe it, believe it to be dictates a completely different approach to I think is where as it may seem to many people, it is Donald Trump who best understands how to speak the language that the Iranian regime understands. He's not interested in the hand waving, the gesturing, the one step forward, two steps back menu added what the diplomats excel at doing.

I think that's why Marco Rubio has been so effective, because he understands that too. You know, he has Trump and Rubio have one question, are you doing what we ask you to do? And if you're not, there'll be hell to pay. And that's why I think this whole thing about the peace deal was to some level the head fake he was by telegraphing that there is a cease deal, telegraphing that's what I'm asking you to do now that we've shown our strength and our willingness to

do that, then shut her down. But I think even in that regard, Trump may have miscalculated how radical and how embedded that theology is. So for more than three decade decades now, Tehran has worked inexorably towards having that new capability, And the semantics are important.

Speaker 2

Very important.

Speaker 3

We do not know if Iran wants a nuclear weapon or weapons. We know that Iron wants to be able to have such a weapon at the time of it's choosing. And I think it's an important distinction. If you hear that the intelligence community doesn't believe that the Ayatola has made the decision to go for a weapon, all that means is they don't think he's decided to take the parts and just put them together. And that's precisely what jd Vance was trying to explain to brat Bearr yesterday.

When you have this interfuges, when you have the enriched uranium, when you're building the rockets, the ballistic missiles, you're not going, as he said, they're not planning.

Speaker 2

They don't have a moon program.

Speaker 3

So they have all of the components, so whether the order has been given to assemble the components is irrelevant.

Speaker 2

They have the components.

Speaker 3

So if you ask, does Iram want to be able to assemble those parts and he makes the decision, well, duh.

Speaker 2

The answer to that has to be. Yes.

Speaker 5

They say America is the land of opportunity. It is. Think about this. Last week a guy who was a former McDonald's employee says, the free world from Iranian nuclear power very amazing.

Speaker 3

He was also a garbage truck driver too. Yeah, proven that anybody can grow up to be So back to the Persian people. So what happens now? Now, if the Persian people could just get organized, and I do believe they really are smart, but let's separate the Persian people from the Iatolas, from the political leadership from the Molas. If the Mulas were smart like their people, they would

cry uncle and agree to inspections. They would relinquish enrichment, they would accept a regional nuclear agreement, and more too, they would understand that the world's focus will inevitably falter, and that then they could go right back to the status quo, up the ante.

Speaker 2

And resume what they were doing beforehand. But remember, they're trapped.

Speaker 3

The Mollahs are in their ideological mire and they cannot accept the need to bend the knee to Washington and by extension, at least in their minds, to Israel and the rest of the world. So where where does that leave us, maybe the regime will fall. I don't have any opinion about whether that's likely or unlikely. I think it depends on a lot about groups within the exist not just the diaspora, those that exist outside the country, but those within the country. I just don't have any

I just don't have any intel. I don't have any microscope that can give me any sort of idea about the dissidant groups. Oh, I know about the distant groups outside the country, in the in the diaspora, but I don't really know about the dissonant groups inside the country.

So if the Iotola stays in his bunker, or if the Iotota is eliminated, or if they keep getting to you know, all the mid level managers the military, you know, the second, third, fourth level commanders, then at some point maybe the IRGC begins to really fall apart, and maybe somebody.

Speaker 2

Within there rises up.

Speaker 3

Now again, don't get me wrong, I'm not not even saying that's going to lead to some sort of democracy. But right now the objective should be the Iyatola and that I their ideology needs to be smothered, and then the whatever rises out of their ashes. Let that rise out could it be worse, I suppose so, but I doubt it will be. For the moment, I think we can obviously thank Trump, thank the US Armed Forces, thank

Israel for at least creating this opportunity. And Trump can you know, do head fakes and talk about, you know, a peace agreement and tell Israel to back off publicly while he's telling bb go do what you need to do, because it ain't over till it's over. And I don't

think it's over. I think that we did at the time that was most appropriate for us to eliminate the one thing that and I think we eliminated because to go back to jd Vance's discussion yesterday, all they needed to do is probably just put the components together and they could have launched something, or they could have taken and created a dirty you know, gotten a dirty bomb out of the country. And remember we still have maybe sleeper cells in this country. So no, it's not over at all.

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