Welcome to the self help podcast, a weekly 9 it's sky dedicated to your emotional health and Well being presented by Entrepreneur, Edward Lamb and psycho shawn north For more information, visit live president dot c dot uk. Okay. Hello. Welcome to episode 517 of the self help podcast with me Ed and the good pal, Shaun Off. How are you doing, shaun? I'm surviving. I've had the dr to Covid. Gonna say you got me doing better than just surviving. We've got a aim higher than that haven't.
Yeah. Was Does that? Fourth or fifth go around full time. As far as you know, but... Yeah. It hits you pretty hard on it. You go it it's tends to. But if you look at the research on blood types, o is the most sustainable against infections like this. And the 1 that's affected most is a, makes you most vulnerable. And right. Guess what I am. I'm an a. A okay. Oh, not. Okay. Not okay. Interesting. Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. Yeah You've been here again. I mean, I've had it officially. I've had it once.
But I only I only found that out because my... 1 of my son... My... 1 of my kids at it and couldn't go to school this is a years ago. And I realized I've got it as well, but I didn't have any effects at also. I've heard recently though it just locally other people Yeah coming back up. Yeah. I mean, in most people's minds, it's over in it, and and maybe now is in in a sense that most people
aren't even testing anymore. I'm sure. Yeah. Where we went to a a comedy show, and Robert and I, and we both got it after that, but we know other people that got there as well. Yeah. So... Taylor Swift and all that been going on locally in it. Yeah. There must have been might a super spreader in there somewhere. Gosh. Yeah. Interesting. Well, I mean, this the this... It's not... Interestingly, it's not an election issue at all in terms of
Covid... The Covid being mentioned in terms of something that we've been through that's been ghana and it has had left a bit left an economic legacy, but we'll talk about we're gonna talk today about politics and the election and, yeah. It's interesting that Covid in terms of like, managing it in keeping people healthy isn't isn't on the agenda at the moments. Mh. Because it's yeah. It's... Very recent history, but it people are quite good at kind of maybe for the... In some ways, this is
a good thing. Like can't hold on not holding on it too much and getting on with it things. Yeah. And the... And the thing is that... Yeah. I gave. I just had a boat belt of of Covid. But if I said, I have the flu. Would that be that'd be normal. Look Yeah. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Jury is out on that 1, But Oh Yeah. So we're we're gonna talk today about the election... I'm not exactly sure the general election that is. I'm not exactly sure whether this is gonna go out before.
Or just after. So I think we'll just try and pitch it just in kind general terms around mh, how it's been for the Uk and then run up to it and Yeah. And what the fallout was gonna be of a potential results. I mean, yeah. I'm record... We're recording this job about a week before Yep, you know, all the poles as they have done for quite a while and looking like making it look like labor, gonna get a massive majority. Reform are coming up quite strong at the
moment. So I think they're actually pulling higher than the conservatives. So. The fallout of that is gonna be anything... Do you think that the polls affect people? Oh, yeah. I think they do... Actually, I was chatting to someone about this last night about how we shouldn't just be, like, assuming that labor are gonna win because even if they are, it it doesn't it doesn't sit well with people or, it might make people think I'm more a, like, oh, I won't bother the vote then because it's
a done deal. Isn't it? Mh. Whereas, you know, if millions of people do that. Then, yeah, I guess what or some in some weird might happen. Mh. And where we are in in my constituency, which is a new 1 called Broken head. The greens are given it a good old go as I've been sort of playing my little passing, and there we need our our, our supporters is to, mh. Get out and and vote out see how we can do. I I think that's 1 of things that the I learned as a kid.
My my parents were, labor activists, so lots of, of things on the council they ran from our house. So it was election time. Yeah. And and the local mp would always visit our house. At that had time. There's all going on. Okay. And And was it Ag Alex Douglas Hu. Maybe, yeah, he he visited the at 1 point. But the the the 1 things I always have had drum into me is the you cannot not vote. It... Even even if you were to go to the the voting, booth and spoil your paper.
At least you've done it. Yeah. Because it's so important that we don't and we don't just sit back. Exactly. And then nothing about it afterwards Yeah. Absolutely. I Know will, we'll see general election turnout outs tend to be relatively higher, like, as in, like, 65, 70 percent. I think local elections lower. You know, I think when I got elected the turnout out was my board was 45 percent. Mh. Which was above the actual average for local elections. So
yeah. Yeah. You know, It's hard getting hit dragging people out and, you know, I think postal votes have already, to arrive for some people where we are. I've just applied for 1 because I'm gonna be away for the election itself. I'm doing away doing some work. Doctor So I'm hoping my postal vote will come soon. Yeah. But it's been really interested being a local counsel and out I'm being involved. In the campaign work for, a general election.
Mh. Hard work, you know? It's not easy, knocking on doors and getting leaflets out and organize organizing it also So I've been loosely involved in the organization if at all and just watching from. Yeah. Yeah. Todd work though. So mh fair play for whichever. Party you're you're into or you happen to represent. If you're getting stuck in and you're doing some campaign and then, good on, generally. It it's interesting for me because as a child,
left and right were very clear. Now either you were labor or you were conservative. You know, you a socialist or a capitalized. And it all seems sort of blur together. Mh. To the point where people say to me, don't know to vote for anymore. Yep. You know, there is that kind of fading whereas when people are extremist. And you're voting for the extreme is really clear about what you're doing and what I know you're voting for, you know, where I suppose like, people like Far,
s his mouth off. Mh. You know, people that are of that il are gonna go towards him. Yep his speaking sentence. Yeah. Yeah saying you know. That's right. Yeah. And it weirdly, you know, the green part you're are now kind of behind in that space on the left. You know there's lots of... Lot lots of labor members, you know, the Jeremy Corbyn Brigade have I've found a home in the greens, which, you know, that's not I didn't really get into politics for that... That those kind of reasons. Mh.
I'm board like the climate guy. But. It's been really interesting like getting to know a new gang of people Yeah that find found a home in the greens. And hopefully they're learning stuff from from, you know, what I'm talking about and that kind of thing and we can but, yeah, It's weird a self in like quite left wing party. And almost bikes accident really. But Generally, loads of good people, You know, wanting in wanting a good wanted to do good work. Yeah. Yeah. I
I hear lots of people. I'm obviously by virtue of what I do people talk to me about it, and people feeling dis franchise and stuff like that. But 1 of the things that really makes me laugh is our attitude towards capitalism because Car is about making money out people. Mh yeah. And the people you made the money from or the candle photo that you you use to get your josh. But when people do capitalist things,
people are surprised and horrified. So we have the thing where, people people from the conservative party who knew when the election was going to be put bets in. Yeah. Because they knew they'd make money articles of. Yeah. Now and everyone's surprised and shocks and horrified, but that's capitalism. It's inside of trading. You know, inside the trading is working on what you know. Yep. Yeah. And people say it's Rob, you shouldn't do inside of trading, but that's how capitalism work.
Or... Yeah. At least that's 1 of the the things you expect you should expect to see and not. That'll be too surprised. Yeah Yeah. Was the same way in the brexit thing happened wasn't it Brexit broke because I think there was bets placed, you know, against the English or british economy, knowing you're assuming that Brexit might happen and then lo and behold. So betting against your country to make make a loaded dash. Yeah yeah. And then being surprised that people might have
done that. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Yeah. Book. Nothing I... It's almost as though we expect people to act like saint when they actually act like people. Yeah. Yeah. And and it's realizing where their motivations are, you know, and and when you look at someone life out for our shouting is his mouth off. How much of that is about me me, look at me aren't anti lovely, you know, tell me, I'm great. Yeah. How much of it is about? I want to do this for you and to help you and No.
Yeah. I mean, Far is just an interesting case. I can't some reason a video of his popped up on my Youtube feed yesterday, and it was way back in 2005 and him in the European parliament. Going up against Tony Blair who at that point was... I think he must have been doing his Stint as the president of the European Union or something, So. It was far versus Tony Blair, Quite useful looking nigel far ferrari. But I mean, in his mind, and, you know, in it
Tony Blair, kind of 18 for breakfast. Mh. But it was quite kind of weird watching this, which was 10 years, 11 years before Brexit. Mh. The confidence of Tony Blair and, you know, watching it in Hindsight is like, well, far large 1 in the end So we're all, the booster and the. Confidence of someone like Tony Blair. You know. Far ferrari 8. I'm I do worry about In the sense that years a bit he's easy to mock.
And take the mess the the piss off, but, it doesn't represent the views of a good lot big chunk of people, you know. So don't like, don't don't... Right. I... I'm happy to mock him as well, but also just keep on eye him because he's he's smarter than he looks, you know. Yeah. But that's cost. And and the thing is that when people have power, which is what they get when they they win the things like this. Is that that it it amplifies who they are. Now. Yep. In terms
the volume well. Yes. So, I mean, whoever we get is going to be interesting because they're gonna have interesting issues to deal with. Not, I mean, you got all the expansive stuff like put and Ukraine and all that which is ongoing. Yep. And it's gonna be a real part of our everyday lives eventually. Mh. Indeed Yeah. And, well, we've come through Covid. We've got this global instability stuff going on, Gaza. We're still, you know, a terrible situation, and we have well.
We've got a potential in likely new prime minister. Coming in who's very very nervous and shy about saying anything remotely, you know, exciting or anything to rock the boat too much. So at a time when the Uk kind of feels like it needs a real. Kick up the backside and en. It doesn't seem like we're gonna get we're get that. It's very much kinda like, we'll just we'll dig go away out of this whole slowly surely. That's not doing anything too. Because exactly
it's got be like tread water them. Yeah. Which and it seems to me like people need a bit of a bit of woo. As sean might say? Yeah. Yeah. You do. There yeah dude. Yeah there's... Needs to be a bit of fire. You know. But it like I say, the 1 that my... Apprehension is that that fire comes from abroad. Like if you do end up in a conflict with putin, it will bring people together. People will make all kinds of breakthroughs and discoveries because of that, but it's not the
right kind of motivation really? Yeah. The you know, and bring it back down to home a little bit with the stuff we talk about on this show about human flourishing or not even that. Just human kind of just a basic need for simplicity and connection with your neighbors and looking after its friends and family.
There's there's not even that kind of sense of messaging from the big leg parties, like, looking out for each other and I was actually really impressed with the liberal Democrats, early stuff And when their campaigns been quite cool and Ed Davey is the leader. Yeah. It's just been... Seems to be having a lot of fun. Mh. You know, and the stuff he's been doing and it... He did a really good... Might be the best campaign video I've ever seen actually of his
he's he's a... Cara for his son. It's got son that's got, you know, is disabled, and real kind of educational needs. And he he told his story about, kind of how he looks after his son how he built it into his life. I don't know if you've seen it yet. But a really powerful emotional story, and it was about care, You know, and it was to tried to tell the wider story about, okay. Yeah. I need to look after and care for my son. In amongst being an Mp and potentially, you know, a party leader,
potential prime minister. Mh. But he was talking more widely about how we need to look after each other. Mh. And I thought that was a really powerful message. You know. Mh. And 1 that, I don't know why more people aren't telling the story, you know goes specific. So the the stupidity is that if the all learned on the laboratory show, the majority of the world's populations would disappear us straight away. My that gone. Yeah. Yeah. Mad. Yeah. It's just a simple story of
caring. You know? Or no. Yeah. No. I can see not the window now, but usually my On of my elderly neighbors, she will like... She requires a lot of care at the moment pharmacists and people come a few times a day to check on her. And family as well. And then at the weekend, something seemed to happen. The front door was open and, you know, neighbors were going in and out, and, we know, we were rest if she's alright. We could help. And we we were all looking out
for. You know? Mh. And I'm sure that kind of thing does go out and around the country, but it's not a message you you see too much. In politics, you know, and that, Bit more a positive. Yeah. Simple message. Yeah. The the main the main messages I mean my must have now. So isn't that seems to be it. Yeah. In most cases. It does... Yeah. And it's all about economic growth and getting the economy going and don't know jobs jobs jobs, which is important. I'm not dismissing that entirely, but
I don't know. Should we be... Yeah. Working. We've talked about this in the past what what does a... What is a good job for someone You know, jobs can take many forms. You don't even get paid for certain jobs do eat to something that you do as part of your everyday life. Looking after a little cooper here, making sure he's well fed and watered and well rested. That's a full time job. Is that a hard life isn't? No. So, yeah, I don't know it's gonna be an interesting.
Period for the Uk, we readjust as it and m. Yeah. And the the the thing that people were going on about this morning when I was in the jail was about, Vat being put on school phase for private schools. Yeah. And and that was signal was like a a major disaster. Alright. By who? By someone that was on. But the... Well, the the implication of the... Because there a lot of interviewers they really want to poke person their interviewing. And and I think, what earth is the
point of this. You're not getting information. You're getting reactions. Know. But they were saying, no. So you're gonna make it so difficult for people, so pay for their kids to go to school, you know, all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And if you wanna send because private school. It's like private medicines Isn't it if you can do it help yourself, but lot of us come. You know? Yeah. Won't somebody think of the privately educated children. Yeah. That's not something too up to speed done, but...
It it is interesting. Yeah. That... I've I've done a bit of local media for local issues. And that's part of the problem. I think the kind of media landscape is is is always looking for controversy and, you know, is that kinda sound by. This person said that. Let's jump on them. You know, so. Maybe it's part of the whole cancel the culture stuff, but... But it's it's like the good news newspaper that does exist. But it's, like, maybe we should have a good news,
news cost as well. Yep. You know, what's the good news today? Yeah. Instead of till just before the weather, that happy happy news story? It's like, yeah. Why? Don't we focus on that stuff a bit more? Yeah. I know. I'm not sure it's possible even, but I know the good news. Is it the good... Is it the good news or the website good news dot something. I'll link it the show. Yeah. There is a good news newspaper.
Yeah. And action for happiness. We're trying eat, you know, You know, So there are organizations out there that are trying trying desperately, but Yeah. It's just Europe against such massive forces aren't you Yeah. That it's hard, you know, and, you know, a lot of the time I'll be doing in in news articles around sustainable transport locally. I'll be asked for a quote.
Yeah. But, you know, the the article will be surrounded by adverts for, like, pickup trucks and Suvs and, cheap flights abroad that we shall be doing 10 to 15 times a year. It's cheaper. You know, a flight to a ibiza through as cheaper than a train a train journey to? Ba for the day or something like that, So yeah. What can you do against all this master mound of Yeah. Of financing and funding and Yeah. Advertising. But then it equally so. It's like the the people have been spraying
stone and... Oh, yeah. Airplanes Comes boil. Yeah yeah. But it's like and this is 1 of the things the... Because I actually did this back along and they would have been in the Aces 1. But we actually had a group of people that were into the, you know, you can't do this. You can't do that. You can't do the other. Kind of thing with fear. And then it was okay, How did you get here? Yeah. What are you wearing? Yeah. Do you realize that your glasses is
the phrase actually made out of plastic. Do you know where that comes from? Do you know Mean it's impossible to be perfect? Isn't it? And I don't know. I've managed the most of How did you get it here? Where's is your re bike? I flew. Yeah. Well, I know we've just... Well, we've just booked a holiday to create, and was the first time we'll be on a flight for a couple of years, and I kind of console myself an and a supposed environmental list by the fact that, you know, we can't be perfect.
And when you've got Taylor Swift, who's using a private jet to go and get a pint of milk most every day. You know, Whilst we're well, Plugging away, you know, it's cycling everywhere as I can, whacked in a heat pump. So we're off gas completely now which 2 tons of Co2 from our household emissions gone. You know, in the last year, trying as hard as we can. Doesn't need... We don't need to be perfect. We just need to do our bit, and we need the super rich, mh.
Who are just acting like they don't give a shit to do an awful lot more yeah, I try not to put too much pressure on myself, you, and, you know, my fellow suburban nights around here to not be too perfect. As long as we're making a decent amount of efforts and you've got a plan to get off your gas boiler and you. Reduce your reliance on your cars a little bit in the next few years. Mh. That's alright, you know. Mh. Have the odd flight ear and there. Don't worry about it too much.
But Taylor Swift, you've you're listening Yeah. You. Try and rain it in as well. You know, trains do exist and you can. You could... I don't know You could... Yeah. And you can't get you may delivered. Yeah. Yeah. You could've have stayed near and near ant field instead of getting a helicopter to to and from stoke or whoever you were staying to do your Uk stuff. You know, just just try a little bit harder would you just stir as a favor.
Maybe if they could have run the helicopter around cooking oil. Maybe sustainable aviation fuel there has, some clever buds working on that kind of stuff as well. Yeah. See all that pans out. Yeah. Get all deficient chip shops, collect the aisle. Yeah. There you go. Eat more chips. There you going? Sustainable farming. Cool. So, yeah. I mean, what do we say to the folks out there that kind of... There's gonna be a lot of unhappy people as in... With elections in the the process in the Uk.
I mean, we might be in position where reform, Uk have got 20 percent of the vote chair, but maybe maybe only 1 or 2 Mps, which in in its itself is a real and injustice really. Yeah. Same with the green. But you know, that's the first part the post. That's how it works. Yeah. Yeah. So what do we say to the folks who are feeling dis in there in the in the fall. I think that the principle about life and living and being a human being comes down to it is not what happens is how you respond to it.
Yeah. And and that's the issue is that it's like a football matches is that there's going to be an amount of people who are really fed up after of football match. Yep. Yeah. But what do you do with that? Mh. Yeah. And and that it's the same thing in every part of life? And, yes, you're not perfect. This election might be perfect. And we're gonna have to learn from it and then to deal with it. Yep. So isn't a lot happens out as why Next And how do we deal with
or what do we do? Yeah. Yeah. Well, there'll be people even before the election campaign in book preparing for the result and ready getting ready to go again in the same way they've got a major football tournament on at the moments, and it's unlikely that England will win, maybe they will. We tend not doing these things as history has shown. I know you know it's what, 32 teams or something like that. Only 1 will win. Yeah. You know? What do you do after a football on them, and you
kinda regroup. Don't you? You maybe change your stuff a little bit or you just kinda go back to the drone board and you get ready for the next 1? You know? It happens every 2 years. But if you think about sport generally, it's about disappointed people. 9 people run a race. Only 1 person wins 8 people have pissed off. Yep. Didn't know. It's like, it at the old about happiness through sport team ring low to me. Mh. Unless you unless you this was just going for the a run for the
father it. Yeah. Yeah I think it depends, you know, I think There are ways to take happiness in up when in Roger Black mister Famous 400 me to renault who knew he could not beat Michael Johnson back in the nineties. Johnson was just, you know, this superstar un unacceptable, The guy. So for him, gold was was silver, which he said, in an in before and after the race and he got silver. He came second so I was do. And for him that was his gold medal because he just knew he couldn't beat this guy.
So, you know, for some people get into the final lever race or just get into a tournament, is a big... Think that if you're gonna do 05:10, half marathon and whatever. It's like getting to the end, getting to get through the ribbon at the end is is enough, you know. Yeah. In the poll political sense, I went into other things last night, and it was focused on climate and nature put
on by local charity. Yeah. You know, and there was folks there from Freedom Alliance and workers party, labor and conservative didn't send a representative lip ends, greens were there as well. But, you know, I just had respect for people that were brave enough to show up and sit in front of a you know, a big room full of people asking questions, Mh. Especially the
freedom alliance, actually, who are quite... They don't believe in climate change, you know, they They kinda don't think we should be doing any of this stuff, which... Yeah. I'm at the office end. But I had respectful for them for showing up Yeah. And taking part, You know? And that's that's democracy in it and that's... Yep. Sometimes you just got show up and having have a go. Even if you know you're gonna get beaten.
So, yeah. Labor and conservative, what are you playing not even mh brave enough to come along or take the time and to speak to people really strange, but. Yeah. All scared or do you. I know saying the wrong thing and Yeah. It being... Yeah. Ending up on social media. Who knows? Anyway? Alright for now. Yeah. That's good. So we'll re we'll regroup. The next 1 we record, I think we'll be after the election and we'll we'll see where the Uk is and whether... What the way forward is, but it's gonna
be an interest few weeks in it. Yeah? And and my results depending on, obviously when went out, but my results would be, make sure you vote? Yes. Don't waste, do it. Yeah. Yeah. And if this has gone out after, and you haven't voted. Make sure you vote... Next time. Yeah. Don't beat yourself up. Yeah. But, yeah, next time, give it a go get involved. Mh. At very least put a little x next to someone. Or scribble all over it, you know, none of the above that kind of thing Yeah. Yeah.
But take part. You're all bonkers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But is that is participation. Yes. Yep. Alright. Cool. Thanks sean. Thank you. See you on the other side. Yes. Keep smiling. Alright. See you.