¶ Introduction to The Secure Dad Podcast
You're listening to The Secure Dad Podcast. Discover ways to protect yourself and your family at home, in public and online. Welcome friend I'm Andy Murphy, the creator of The Secure Dad. This podcast serves to help people become proactive in their safety. The information I share on this podcast is for general information purposes only. My goal is to empower you to make safer decisions for yourself and your family because our safety Is our own responsibility.
Today I get to talk with Sergeant Rob Disario of the Brookline Police Department about the current state of policing and how citizens can better interact with law enforcement. All of that and more ahead on The Secure Dad Podcast.
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¶ Meet Sergeant Rob Disario
My guest on the show today is Rob Disario. Rob is a sergeant with the Brookline Police Department in Brookline, Massachusetts. He's been in law enforcement for 23 years and currently heads up Brookline PD's social media video content. You can see him and his fellow officers on Instagram and Facebook, but most importantly, he's a dad. Here's my conversation with Sergeant Rob Disario. So welcome to the show. Sergeant Rob, introduce yourself to everybody.
Thanks Andy. My name is Sergeant Rob Disario. I'm a Supervisor for the Brookline Police Department in Massachusetts.
Very cool. So How long have you been in law enforcement and what led you down this career path?
law enforcement specific, I've been 23 years. It'll be 23 years, this November. and I was, less than a year out of college before I got hired, which was lucky. I was young, I was relatively young. I was, 23 years old coming out of the academy. And, of course, I was, Full of energy and ready to save the world, but before that I just did I did security and I was a private investigator for our it was basically a surveillance operator for a company in Massachusetts.
but obviously before that I was in college just working like security and stuff like that. But,
So this is something that you have just always found yourself just gravitating to and, being something that you're just naturally good at. . Rob: I don't know how good I am , but, I, it's definitely something that I wanted to do. I grew up in the, the, remember the old show, cops, it's still on today, but I grew up. Watching that. And I grew up, I knew a lot of the cops in my neighborhood. It's a relatively urban environment.
And we lived in an apartment, and, I knew all the cops that, and they would come by all the time because they had, at the time, Brookline Police had a very good community policing. We were like one of the first in the nation to have a, big community policing, initiative. And so they used to come around to us all the time and that's how I got to them. And I said, you know what, it's definitely what I want to do. So it just was a natural thing.
And ever since I was probably about 12, 13 years old, I knew I wanted to do it.
¶ A Day in the Life of a Police Officer
Very cool. So give me and my audience, the rundown of the typical day, for a police officer there, obviously. Being a sergeant, being a supervisor, you have a lot of, different tasks that have to take care of. But what's a typical day look like for a police officer there?
so basically, it's all, shift work, right? like any kind of shift work, nurses work, doctors, EMTs, firefighters, we all work shift work. especially the new, the newer officers, you go to the nights because that's the most undesirable shift. It's relatively the same. You come in.
you always have to come in wearing, your civilian clothes and they give you a locker room because you don't want to be one of those guys that's constantly wearing a uniform, so you come in, you get changed in the locker room and you go down a roll call. It's like taking attendance, in, in, in grade school, but basically they, and they tell you where you're going to be assigned. So depending on what. What department you work for the town is broken up into several different sections.
we have nine different sections and in Brookline. It's a relatively small town, but our population is a lot more than your average town. So you're assigned to that area. You go grab your cruiser, whatever cruiser you're assigned. That's always a fun game, right? Trying to find where your cruiser is. Who knows where the guy who had it before he had parked it.
And so then you just make sure you got everything in there and you just hit the street, you flip your radio on and essentially it's eight hours managing your own time. And as long as you answer your calls, you answer the radio and you do your reports, nobody bothers you. it's actually, a really fun job, in terms of you're, if you're good at time management. And you can do if you can Be proactive and you can do the job by yourself without having to be micromanaged
Yeah, anybody
who can do that it will be successful.
Very good And there's no like typical, one day looks exactly like the other there's always going to be some random call from a worst case scenario to, Hey, somebody's goat has gotten loose in the street and you're the guy who's got to go get it.
And we actually had a donkey one time, got loose at, we have a farm in the South side of town. There is a, it's called Allendale farm. it's a small, but it is a working farm. We had a, two donkeys get out one time, but yeah, yeah, it is, mindset. So you show up to work knowing that you're going to have a standard amount of Typical calls like those are your medical emergencies, right? Somebody sick, somebody fell, we have a large elderly population in my town where.
we have, a lot of people where the police are on the street all the time, somebody's choking, somebody's having a heart attack, we're there right away, we apply to defib, we do a lot of, like first, EMT, first responder training, so, you're, gonna get those calls, guaranteed, you're gonna get the parking complaints. You know what I mean? They didn't show that stuff on Cops Andy, where they get the parking complaint and you have to go and tow the car from blocking the driveway.
you're going to get those every day. It's a different pattern. I guess there's no pattern. There's a different, series of things that you have to do and in order to get through the day and it's all in what you make it. policing has changed over the last, some odd years where when I work nights, you are free to do whatever you wanted. So we were very proactive. Me and my team on nights, we were very proactive, so we'd be getting drunk drivers. We'd be out getting drugs, drug deals.
We'd go look for like the certain hotspots where people were acting a fool. Graffiti taggers that come out at night. So you can be very proactive. Your radio is on. You got to make sure you have to, you get that medical call and you, handle the medical call. So that's basically that, there is no typical day, which is good for some people, but some people like the routine, they like to come in and do the same exact thing. And. So this, probably wouldn't be a good fit for them.
Yeah, that, that makes sense to me. And, yeah, just every day is gonna be different. You don't know what you're gonna have and all that stuff. I think that would be, exciting. But you made a comment just a second ago. you've done this for 23 years now, right?
¶ Changes in Policing Over the Years
policing, has changed. give me your perspective on how policing has changed, especially with a lot of the things that we've seen, like nationwide, like over the last five years or so.
Yeah, it's interesting. It's hard, to say, put a, put, your thumb on what exactly changed, but you have to understand, Andy, when I graduated the academy, I was, it was November of 2001. So September 11th just happened. So when I got out, it's just so appreciative and welcoming. People were buying us coffees. not to say we can accept like gratuities or anything like that, but people were just so, nice.
So I always thought that was normal when I first, the Academy and I said, but the old timers, the dinosaurs were like, no, come on, kid. This will all go away after a while.
And eventually it did, we're unique in Brookline that, we have a, fairly good relationship with the residents, the people that, that we, what we deal with on a common basis, but like you say, the last couple of years, let's see, it's, 2024 now, four years ago, we were affected just like every other police department, we were about, all that stuff that went down and, the, rebel, I like to call it, it's the rebellion against the police more than anything, when they
had, the narrative was, defund the police, cut their budget, and they, and they listened, the people making the decisions listened and it was really hard for us. We had protests right in front of our police station where they would come out and they would and it got really tense and these are people that we thought we had a really good relationship with and they all came out of the woodwork and you got to remember though Andy nobody had anything really to do because it was during COVID.
a lot of people weren't working. A lot of people were working from home and they were, and I hate to say this, but they were really looking for something to do. And I don't know what's changed. I don't know if it's something we're doing differently or society is doing something differently, but they, they're a lot more vocal now in their support. And I'll give you an example. When I, so I was in patrol up until 2022. And I get reassigned. And one of my major functions was social media.
And as you saw on my, I create a lot of content, a lot of videos of me, which I don't care for, although my wife will tell you that I love watching myself on video. I don't, I didn't, I got forced into that. we started putting content out. Just anything we could update the public with. Traffic crashes, and we would actually show video of the traffic crashes. Like special events and stuff, like just regular stuff, and I was pumping that, that content out.
And you would see probably 60 percent of the comments. On Facebook, we're negative 60 percent like more than a half. People were like, oh, you got, and they would be calling us names. And of course we couldn't do anything about it. We couldn't edit those comments out. We just had to leave them. And nobody was like, nobody would say anything. Nobody would support.
there'd be a couple of people in there, which we appreciated at the time, because it's really hard to come out in support of the police. And, now, Andy, I post something now, 100 percent of it is all positive. And I think it was, one of the things is like, police departments got wise. And they said, listen, if we don't set the narrative ourselves, other people are going to set the narrative for us. And I think that was what happened during COVID and during the the anti police stuff.
It's we sat back and we said, okay, let's let this stuff all happen. Whereas we should have been a little more proactive and said, they listen, and defended ourselves, but we were afraid to defend ourselves. we had nothing to do with anything that happened in Minneapolis. We didn't, we had nothing to do with anything that happened in all these other, these cities or these places. But yet we were taking the brunt of it and it just, it was very, it was a very confusing time.
So I don't think we were really knew what to do. And I, when I say we, like law enforcement general, which kind of sat back. But finally, like my, boss came to me when I got this job and says, listen, I don't care what you put out. But it's got to be good, it's got to be informative, and it's got to set the narrative. And that's essentially what we did.
Very good. So that kind of leads me into my next question here.
¶ Building Community Relationships
what are the biggest challenges that police departments have when you are building relationships with the communities today here in 2024?
Law enforcement took for granted that we are going to do the right thing all the time. And you know what, public? You don't need to know what we're doing in here. And I think that was a mistake, and we worked on that premise forever. But that's so wrong. We need them to come in and see what we do. And we want, hey, listen, come on in.
We, while we give tours on a weekly basis of people that want to come in and see the police station, they don't, there's a lot of people that don't even know that we have jail cells. We have jail cells downstairs in the basement. We bring the prisoner in the cell report and we bring them into the jail. So they go, you have jail cells? yes, we're a police department. We have jail cells. but I think it's all about opening up.
It's about, being, I don't want to sound cliche, but just being transparent. And that's, I know that's a very true, that's a very cliche term, but it's, about being transparent and showing them, hey, listen, this is what we're doing. And you know what? When there is a complaint that comes in, we have internal affairs of public, professional responsibility office. And not to say we were hiding anything, but we would conduct our investigation and then we would submit it to the town.
People said, no, it's stupid. What are you doing now? What we do is we share while we're doing the investigation. We bring in people from the town and say, okay, this is where we're at just so that they can see it and say, Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. All right. Keep going with this. That's where you see. So we're not hiding anything. And I think that's, not to say we were ever hiding anything before, Andy, but I think we were very closed.
and that goes along with, the assumptions that people make about us. So one of the things that is building a relationship with the community is, they have a lot of assumptions about us. They think we like to go out there and write tickets. We like to arrest people. We don't because it just means we get to do work. I don't want to do work. I want to do less work. But and they, but the shooting of unarmed men and stuff like that, and they're out there hunting us and they're hunting us.
We took that really personally, because no, the last thing we want to do is shoot somebody or we want to get into a physical altercation. Now, there are, maybe, is there a group of people, police officers out there that, that are like, younger that are looking for action? Yeah, there, there will always be that. But us dinosaurs, we, don't want to get involved in that stuff. we're trying to avoid that.
And that's a lot of times that you'll, get involved with somebody who you're and you tell them, listen, the last thing I want to do, it's Friday afternoon, the court is closed. The last thing I want to do is lock you up. So please help me. Give me what I need. And I, promise you, I will. I'll let you go or I'll summon you in the court, you know what I mean?
So I think, it's so long story short, it's the assumptions that people make about us, but also Andy, it's the assumptions that we make about people. So we make assumptions about people right or wrong. We assume things about people. And I'll make, I'll give you as an example, let's say we had a robbery that just occurred or some sort of incident just occurred. And Andy's driving down the street in a black pickup truck. the description we had for the fleeing vehicle is a black pickup truck.
And I see Andy in that area. And so I said, Oh yeah, I'm going to stop that guy. Now I've already made an assumption about that guy. Now I'm not saying you're it, but there's a pretty good chance that black pickup truck has something to do with it. So anyway, so I stopped the vehicle.
Now, there's a couple of things that I'm going to do knowing, depending on the incident, let's say it was a violent incident with a, gun or something, I'm either going to prone you out, verbal commands and prone you out, or I'm going to tactfully approach you so I've made several assumptions about you, and I haven't even spoken to you yet. And so I, so police officers will treat you based on the situation that we're dealing with.
And unfortunately, people see that and they say, he was rude or he was aggressive. no. I'm using my tactics that I was trained to do to safe, safely dissolve this situation. And I'm going to treat you that way, unless otherwise that you had nothing to do with it. I'm just Andy and I'm just going to pick up my kids from school. Okay, good enough. Then we drop the guard. Because we are constantly on guard.
Anytime we make a traffic stop, anytime we shag and call, anytime, we are constantly on guard. But people interpret that differently. They make assumptions about us because we are constantly on guard and we make assumptions about you. let's say I'm at a community event and I see Mrs. Jones coming over to me. And Mrs. Jones wants to complain about, a car that's parked in front of her house for a lot of things, and Mrs. Jones, and you're like, Oh, Mrs. Jones, I'm at a community event.
I really can't deal with this right now. You know what I mean? So it just, so that's one of the things that's a long answer to building the relationship with the community is assumptions, understanding that we are going to make assumptions about you just like you're going to make assumptions about us.
And that's just, assumptions is part of what we do as humans. that's just how our brains work. That's not, I don't want anybody listening to sit here and say, Oh, Sergeant Rob here has admitted that all cops make assumptions and act on assumptions. No, that's just a human thing that we all do. We always make assumptions. I make assumptions about people in traffic all the time. I think that everybody is stupid in traffic and I'm the only one who knows what's going on.
That's the same kind of thing that we're dealing with here. it's not, It's not a legal assumption, it's just normal human behavior assumptions, so yeah. what is something that you wish that every citizen knew about policing?
¶ Understanding Police Intentions
What is something that you don't think we're, something that we should know that we don't?
We don't, like I said, we don't want to write parking tickets. We don't want to tow cars. We don't want to make arrests. we really try to avoid doing a lot of those things. and I think a lot of people don't understand that. They think we're out there. And like I said, there will always be that fraction of people that the cops are, that are, that do want to make arrests.
they want to pad their stats or they want to do X, Y, Z. But the vast majority of us, Andy, We, just want to, we want to do our job. We want to help people. We want to protect people and we want to go home. And I know that sounds super cliche and, but, let me just say this, that perception my reaction to life has changed as yours has after I had kids.
Oh yeah.
Would you agree with that?
Absolutely.
I think before that for that, let's see, a year or 10 years that I was a cop before I had kids, I, viewed the world differently than I do now. And I, think, obviously it's cliche and stuff, but at the end of the day, I go pick them up from school. That's my, best moment of the day right there.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
¶ Approaching Officers in Public
you hinted at this and some of the things that you've said, how people respond to seeing you, I'm sure is varied, depending on what people's life experiences are. We just talked about these assumptions, but what do citizens need to be aware of when approaching an officer, either at a community event or they're eating at a restaurant, that sort of thing? How do, what do we need to take in consideration when coming to talk to an officer?
I think the circumstances, right? we've, I've had many incidents where I'm actively investigating a case. I'll be on the side of the road. I'll have somebody, I'll be interviewing this guy. And, and, by no fault of their own, they just see the uniform and they're like, Can you give me directions to, such a, and you're like, Oh my God, do you not see what's going on here? I have two guys proned out in the sidewalk.
I got a tow truck, and we're willing to help anybody all the time, but what the situation is at the time, and I think that when somebody approaches me, But don't ever hesitate, don't ever be hesitant to approach the police officer because, like I said, they want to help you and stuff, and I think, but like you say, going back to the assumptions thing, they assume that we're a bunch of, gruff, angry people, because maybe we have a scowl on our face or something, and maybe we're
dealing with something that we really don't want to be dealing with, and, they'll match that kind of gruffness. Back out orders or something, or they'll back out a question and you're like, whoa, and I'll give you an example. I was writing parking tickets one time. This was a long time ago. I was in, a sector car. And, I was writing parking tickets, whatever, and I don't care. whatever. And we gotta remember what a parking ticket is. It's a tool of compliance.
It's just a tool to make you comply with the parking regulations, whatever. And the lady saw me right in the pocket tickets, and I was writing her ticket, her car ticket, and she came full barrel, screaming at me. And I just sat there, and of course, you just got to sit there and take it. And when she was done, she took a breath. I finally says, ma'am, let me begin by saying, I don't appreciate the way you've approached me today.
However, I'm willing to take this ticket back if you move off the crosswalk. and I think she, her face settled off. She goes, sorry. You know what I mean? It was one of those moments. And I wasn't, I didn't want to be, I don't want to patronize or anything, but I just was like, first of all, let me just You don't have to approach me like that. Excuse me officer, I'm very sorry I parked there. I'm moving it now. You know what I mean? That could have been all it took. But whatever.
But yeah, but I just think, understand the situation. Now, if you're at a fair, like a fair and there's always cops, security detail or something. Hey, come on, shut our ear up. We love to hear from you. we want to hear from you. Hey, I live down on such and such a road. Oh, really? Oh, my buddy lives down there. You know what I mean? it's know the situation, I think, is the best advice I can give.
Yeah, that's good. Okay, so let me ask you this.
¶ Tips for Traffic Stops
from a civilian point of view, What are some tips that you can give me if I'm ever pulled over on the side of the road? How do I need to behave? What do I need to be aware of? Let's say I was going, 55 in a 45. You've pulled me over in my black pickup truck. What do I need to keep in mind as you're approaching the car?
No matter what happens, always an administrative way to handle everything. I preface what I'm gonna say by saying that there's always an administrative way to deal with any situation. I, I, my, I, don't get pulled over anymore, but if I did, just cause I'm, I drive like an old lady. If I get pulled over, it's just you cooperate. It's just, you just, yes. Yeah, you don't have to say sir or ma'am. You just, how's it going? Yeah, here you go. Here's your driver's license. Arguing is futile.
People have bad days and we understand that. But don't argue because it's not going to end well. Even if the cop is angry, curmudgeon, barking out orders at you, you just want to cooperate. Because maybe he's having, maybe he just came from a suicide. And he's just, upset. And he's having not to make excuses. I don't want to make excuses. But everybody has a bad day. So just I just think the best advice is just to cooperate and go along with it.
Now, With that said, he does something wrong, she does something wrong, she accuses you of doing something you didn't do, write you a ticket for something you didn't, you don't think you did, was rude to you, swore at you, there's always an administrative way to deal with that. do, just, finish the interaction because you're not gonna win. And I think a lot of people, a lot of the public, they think they're gonna argue their way out of a ticket. No way, man.
You're gonna get that ticket no matter what. Could be a warning, but you're gonna get a ticket one way or another. That officer has a supervisor. And that police department has an office of professional responsibility or so called internal affairs. That person, that police officer has a police chief. there's always an avenue to say, listen, I've taken these calls, as a patrol supervisor, I've taken these calls.
I had one, Where they wanted to complain about the way the officer was driving and they called dispatch You know have a supervisor called me perfect. So I called her back. I said, hey, what's the story? You know this officer was driving crazy. It's rush hour traffic. He was on the lights I said, let me look up the call like oh, yeah, so that was the for the baby And I didn't lie or anything. I just read the CAD the way it was.
And I said, and I, was hoping that he would, that officer would get there very quickly because he's trained in how to get that choking baby, the item out of the choking baby's thing. And I think it changed the way she was like, ah, but I will talk to him. I'll make sure he understands that when the blue lights are on, it's not a free pass, you got to be careful and you got to, she goes, Oh, all right. However, if you'd like to make a formal complaint, I can give it. No, that's not necessary.
Sergeant. Will you talk to him? No problem. And I was able to resolve it because, again, I'll go back to our assumptions thing, Andy. He made certain assumptions about this cop. He's driving like a jerk because he's a jerk. And this guy and the cop is thinking, I need to get there now. I need to get there two minutes ago. So there's all those assumptions are going on at the same time.
And I think if we all just just discussed it and we understood where everybody is coming from, and that's a lie, that's not a, that's not a law enforcement tip. That's a life tip. You know what I mean? You never know when you're coming across somebody what they're dealing with
¶ De-escalation Techniques
one of the things that i'd really like to talk about on the show is de escalation do you have any tips from either your personal experience or your you know, law enforcement experience? What can you share with us about de escalation?
You may find yourself in a situation and I try and tell my son, he's at that middle school age where I'm just don't find yourself in that situation. But if you do, find yourself in that situation. remove yourself from that situation, no matter what it is, because it's not going to end well. And my mother used to always tell me you didn't do anything, you're guilty just by being there. So like, when I was a kid, we had high school, we had a lot of fights and stuff.
And you'll see it today now where there's a fight in the school and everyone, all the kids have the cell phone cameras, I knew my mother trained me. if you see a fight breaking out, Get out, because if they get in trouble, you're getting in trouble for standing there, and they're gonna think you're a part of it. and that was an important lesson. I try and tell them, try and tell my son that all the time. He, listen, stuff's going on, remove yourself out of the situation.
de escalation is tough in the civilian world. I know how to de escalate stuff in the, police world. That's easy. But in the, civilian world, I don't know, it's just, it's, being able to communicate, I think, is number one, understanding that, listen, your body language says a lot about you, if you're, you're in a position where you're like, you got the boxer stance, somebody's going to interpret that as you're ready to go, whereas if I have my hands up like this, no, I don't need no trouble.
Somebody may back off. So I think it's all about approaching each situation delicately at a point where like you can remove yourself safely. I don't know. It all comes back to like middle school. We're like, just get away. Don't deal with it. That guy's a jerk. Avoid him like the plague,
Yeah, I like that. And, I'm really glad that you brought up how nonverbal communication is really important in like really any sort of interaction. So yeah, that, that's, good. Like how you need to be cognizant of how you're standing. What you're saying, where you are, those sorts of things when interacting with the police and anybody else on a daily basis. So yeah. I get that. That's, good advice.
That's one of the biggest things that we look for. Anytime, it could be a simple shoplifting call and we get the guy down the street. We're looking for those body cues because if he's doing one of these numbers, he's ready to run, Or if he's blading his body off, he's ready to fight. So we are constantly in that, like I said, that defensive posture, even if we're talking to you nice as creamed corn, we're looking at you like, this guy's ready to fight, and we try and avoid that at all costs,
And that gives you a lot of cues as to, okay, this is what I have to do next. This guy's kind of blading back or, oh, he's reaching for his pocket, that sort of thing. And that's gonna, that's gonna set things off, I'm sure.
It's like playing a sport. You want to anticipate what your adversary is going to do. are you, I want to anticipate, is he going to, playing soccer? Is he going to go pass it or is he going to shoot the ball the same way with us? So I'm, trying to anticipate what you're going to do before you do it.
And that's all just to keep everybody safe and to understand what's going to come next and that sort of thing.
¶ A Memorable Case
All right. So as we wrap up here, can you share a story with us about something that happened in your career that you were like, man, this is why I get up every day. This is why I do my job. This is why I'm an officer. Is there something like that you can share with us on a positive note?
There's been a lot of cases where I got back to the station and I just sat in my Cruiser and said, wow, that was cool. Many of those stories I can't share with you, Andy. But, there was one case in particular, a couple of years ago, I was the street boss. It was towards the end of the shift. And it was a domestic, it was a domestic violence call. And, they lived in an apartment. there were immigrants from Russia.
And He tuned her up good, man, and it was, me and the patrolman that was with Ray at the time. We were the first ones on scene, and just hysterical, just trying to get her to calm down and talk to her and stuff like that. and, she had no idea where he went. Took, he took off. So we're like, alright, let's figure out where he went. Where's his cell phone? can we track him? Find my location? We couldn't find him, couldn't find him. She's in, the bedroom. She finds his passport's missing.
So we're like, oh, wait a second. Passport's missing. We call up the state police. Logan Airport and say, listen, this is just, we had no idea. This is just a wing and a prayer. This is the name of the guy. Anyway, you can check the manifest records for, flights or anything like that. And so I will get back to you. We're like, so we'll never hear from them again. Sure enough. 10 minutes later, they called us back. Yup, he's on a flight. The flight takes off in 25 minutes and such a thing.
And we were like, no, it was a connecting flight to Russia. So I don't remember where he was going first. It was somewhere in the United States and then it was a connecting, or maybe it was LaGuardia, I think. And so anyway, I was like, yup, can you get him? They went on to the plane. The plane had already been on and the state police grabbed him, pulled him off.
And it was just, that was like one of the greatest moments where like me and Ray were just so relieved that like He didn't get away, it was one of those things and because she was just so she was bad, she went to the hospital and she was in there for a while, and it was one of one of those really sensitive cases that like, and we put him away for a long time, and it was just so satisfying that he didn't get away and you know because we would have never saw him again. We would have never saw him.
He would have got on that flight. He would have been, and instead, luckily the state police, they did their due diligence and it was a great team effort. So that's probably maybe one of the examples.
¶ Connecting with the Community
Awesome. I'm glad you got him you know if people want to know more about you and what you're doing with your community with the Brookline Police Department Where can people find you online?
So social media is our biggest outlet. we're on Facebook Twitter Instagram and YouTube. YouTube is like mostly like our videos, like our stuff that we put out in terms of videos, but I follow us and it's a Brookline MAPD on most of them, I think, and follow us. And, we love the social media interaction. We love hearing people's thoughts. One of the things I do is a fact or fiction and this, and this isn't, centric to Brookline.
, the first one that we ever did was, you have to wait 24 hours before you report something missing because everyone thinks it's I don't know if it's on TV or something. It's a TV
thing. Yep.
Yeah. So it was like, everybody thinks that. So that was our first fact of fiction and we get a really cool response from that. So I try and pump those out. The hardest thing though, Andy, is coming up with. An idea for it. what do people, because I know policing, what do people don't know? So like from your listeners, if people have suggestions and shoot you an email and just say, listen, I've always wondered about X, and then maybe we can address it on fact or fiction.
But I pumped those out on, on Instagram, Facebook and, , Andy: I like your fact and fiction stuff. I've watched it. I watched a bunch of your stuff on Instagram. That's where I found you. yeah, man, I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate the, what you're doing on social media, trying to do community building. And also, what you and your fellow officers are doing there in your area, man. God bless you. I appreciate you. Thank you so much, Andy. I really appreciate that.
This is a, you have a great thing. I've been watching a lot of your stuff and I'm really impressed. I've, and I've actually read your book too,
Oh, cool.
I appreciate that. That, was a really good informative read.
I appreciate that.
¶ Conclusion and Resources
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