Speaker Blair: Today in the Foxhole, we are welcoming back Andy Clarkson. He's here to discuss his series of videos entitled The Six Point Pattern of the Antiairistotelians. Welcome, Andy.
Speaker Andy: Hey, guys, how are you doing? Glad to hear your voices again.
Speaker Blair: Thanks. Good to have you back.
Speaker Martin: Great.
Speaker Blair: All right, so why would anyone be interested in a podcast and a video series entitled The Six Point Pattern of the Anti Aristotelian? What do you think, Andy?
Speaker Andy: Well, that's a great question and I will admit it's bit of an obscure topic, but it's highly relevant. So absolutely great way to start this off. And if I may, Blair and Martin, I'd like to answer them both from my perspective with three answers, but can I give a little background first that may show context to your listeners?
Speaker Martin: Please do.
Speaker Andy: I don't know if you guys recognize this or not, but the three of us go back about 20 years now. Yeah. Martin with his blog called the Egos. Blair. You with the secular foxhole which started his blog. And I had the Charlotte capitalist. And I started The Charlotte Capitalist back then because at that point it was 20 years of having a pretty strong understanding of objectivism. But I really wanted to dig deep to make sure I understood fully objectivism and could apply its ideas to my life. So the Charlotte Capitalist blog started mostly with politics, but soon after I really started digging into the history of ideas of philosophical ideas over the past 2500 years, and also the deeper ideas of Iron Man, including the idea that one's main moral purpose is to seek existential and psychological values in order to gain and keep one's happiness. So that effort over a period of over ten years resulted in my book The Impact of Aristotle upon Christian, Islamic and Jewish Cultures. And that was published about five, six years ago. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Blair, in that book I identified the pattern over the past 2500 years of those whom I call the Anti Aristotelians and we'll define what I mean by that. And it's in the series. And so from that came the video series, the Six Point Pattern of the Anti Aristotelians that identified in the book. So let me interject here. This will be a shorter podcast today. We're not going to cover all the information in the videos because the purpose is to make you and your listeners aware of this free video series and to provide just a taste of the content.
Speaker Blair: It's on YouTube, right?
Speaker Andy: It's on YouTube. It's free. In fact, I was going to tell you where it is, but let's just do that right now. There's a couple of ways to get into it. One is you can just go to Youtube.com and do a search on six points and spell out the word six point pattern Anti Aristotelian, or go to the playlist when you get to that. It's The Impact of Aristotle's, the name of the channel and you'll see six videos average about ten minutes in length, some shorter, some longer. Or you can go directly to a URL. And I think most of your listings and you guys are familiar with URL shorteners, like tinyurl.com?
Unknown Speaker: Yes.
Speaker Andy: Well, there's no address there. Tinyurl.com, and then spelled out in lowercase letters, six point pattern, sixplintpattern. So tinyurl.com, sixpointpattern. So, yes, absolutely free in about ten minutes at segments. There are six of them, so you can watch them all together. If you go to the playlist, it'll flow right through or go get yourself a drink and come back later and watch them in pieces. So what I like to do now is answer your questions about the who and why anyone be interested in the video series and this podcast episode entitled the Six Point Pattern of the Anti. Aristotelian. First one is these six points are red flags or warnings that you should be aware of that your values are at risk. And I'm guessing decades ago, you guys and your listeners, some of your listeners may have noticed that your values were under attack, and that likely led to your interest in objectivism. Now, I couldn't back then express my concerns about that in terms of the word values, but I did know that what was happening in the world was destructive to me and to others. So if you are someone who values the people and things in your life, it's important to understand these six points. And by the values in your life, I mean your career, your romantic partner, your friends and family, your personal interests and possessions. Again, these six points are red flags or warnings that your values are at risk. And if I may, pulling from the main topic of our last episode together, these points will warn you that the Antiairistotelians are going to deprive you of achieving exalted moments. Now, for those who aren't familiar with the concept of exalted moments, I encourage you to go back to November 2021 and the episode of the secular Fox Hall entitled Exalted Moments. So that's the first answer to your question. Consider these six points as red flags or warnings that your values are at risk. If you're a valuer, you should be aware of these. The second reason is if you're a fan of history and you want to understand what drives history, fundamentally what drives history? Most of us going back to elementary school have been taught major points in history, right? Most of us are aware of ancient Greece. Rome? The Dark Ages, the Renaissance, American Revolution, the 20th century, world wars. But let me ask you guys this. Were you taught in elementary school and middle school and high school, the fundamental ideas which cause the good and the bad over the course of history over the last 25, 100 years? I'm guessing no, they were just kind of things that happened, right? But no cost. So what this series does is it provides the fundamental ideas which have driven history over the past 2500 years, the good and the bad. So that's number two, providing an understanding of what's fundamental ideas drive history. And then the third value in this to your listeners of the video series is just to gain an enhanced understanding of key objectives, concepts. In Iran's book The Art of Nonfiction, she discussed the concept of shuttling. And shuttling involves providing content which shuttles or moves between abstract concepts and the concrete which the abstract concepts rest. Like, for example, if I just say, oh, so and so, this individual is a great sculptor, but I say nothing else. You guys can't go off on that. There's nothing for you to do with that because I haven't provided you any concrete. But if I provide you definitions, examples, specific explanations, photos, then you can better understand what I'm saying. You may agree or disagree with me, but at least you can understand what I'm saying. Well, that's what the video series does here on the six point pattern of the antiairist aliens. It does provide many abstract objectivist philosophical concepts, but those concepts are supported by specific concrete historical examples as well as definitions. So hopefully this will help your listeners enhance whatever level they are, enhance their understanding of objectivous concepts.
Speaker Blair: What I appreciate about the videos too, Andy, is that they're just like ten minutes long. You're able to compact all this knowledge into 610 minutes videos.
Speaker Andy: Great. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. Yes, and I hope that's useful to your listeners. Again, watching it through, I think that's less than an hour, but they are broken up if you need to rewind and what the heck is he talking about? Some of the stuff is a little complex, but yeah. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker Blair: Go ahead, Mark.
Speaker Martin: And in the future we will do a backup for this because this could happen. It's on YouTube and I say no more. So we should find a safe place for it in the future.
Speaker Blair: Also true.
Speaker Andy: Feel free to download it. Sure. Yeah. But I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. So did that answer your opening questions, Blair, about who would be interested in wine?
Speaker Blair: I especially love the subtitle, but we're going to get into that here in a little bit. My other question to you, Andy, is now of course, you're focusing on the anti Aristotelians. Do you also provide the listener or the viewer with Aristotle's achievements?
Speaker Andy: Yes. So we do contrast, just like we're contrasting the good and bad errors. We're getting back to the fundamental causes which drive history. We talk about who the Aristotelians are over this 2500 period, the major ones, and what the results have been when their ideas have been prominent. And we also do the opposite. So we'll talk about that in a minute. But we do cover both sides. Absolutely. The good and the bad, both historically and philosophically.
Speaker Blair: Great. Now, you mentioned in the notes here that you generous to provide me. You mentioned both Ms. Rand and Leonard Peakoff. Do you want a quote from them?
Speaker Andy: Yeah. And so the context there is why Aristotle? Right. There have been hundreds of philosophers over the last 2500 years. Why Aristotle in particular? And why am I breaking the world into two groups Aristotelians and anti Aristotelians? Well, Aristotle is hugely important. And this is one of the reasons I got into this. Because if you read some of many works by Dr. Peacoff in Opar, there is The Duel, his epilogue to Opar thank you. Con man. The duel between Aristotle and Plato. Right. And then if you read his book, The Ominous Parallels, he goes through the history and what led to Nazi Germany specifically. But there is this historical flow and influence of Aristotle. If you read Ein Rand's book, the Opening Essay for the New Intellectual she provides a sweeping view of history and of the good and bad there. So there are a couple of quotes you mentioned from Iran and Leonard Peak off and for your listeners who may not be familiar with Aristotle's role in history and we do cover this in the series but I think it's important for them to have context. Here are a couple of quotes from Rand and Peacock. One aristotle is the father of logic and the champion of reason as man's only means of knowledge. Knowledge he holds must be based on and derived from the data of sense experience. That is, your sense seeing, hearing, smelling. It must be formulated in terms of objectively defined concepts and it must be validated by a process of logic. We have conceptual thinking, we have logic, we have sense perception here all systematized by Aristotle. Because of that, here's the second quote. Aristotle may be regarded as a cultural barometer of Western history. And that's the premise of this video series. Whenever his influence dominated the scene it paved the way for one of history's brilliant eras. And we'll be talking about these eras in the series. Whenever it fell, so did mankind. The Aristotelian revival, as an example of the 13th century brought men to the Renaissance. The rebirth the rebirth of reasons, specifically.
Unknown Speaker: Yes.
Speaker Andy: And the last one is this gets to the point about valuing things. If we consider the fact that to this day, everything that makes us civilized beings, every rational value that we possess, including the birth of science, the Industrial Revolution, the creation of the United States, even the structure of our language is the result of Aristotle's influence of the degree to which, explicitly or implicitly, man accepted his epistemological principles. We would have to say, never had so many owed so much to one man. So I want to say that this video series is an application of objectivism. I can't take credit for it. Without an Iron Rand and a Leonard Peacock, I wouldn't have any idea this so they were the inspirations, their philosophy, her philosophy, which he expounded upon, drove all this. I wanted to learn this on my own and then be able to share it in my way to you, your listeners and anybody who is interested, just.
Speaker Blair: For our listeners too. Andy, define what epistemology is for.
Speaker Andy: Excellent. So in philosophy, there are five classes. Metaphysics is the view of the world, the view of the universe. Okay? And I'm not going to go into big detail. Epistemology is the science of how we know. How do we gain knowledge about the universe, everything in the universe, how do we gain that? And so Aristotle and objectivism, epistemology is based on human faculty of reason, which is the foundation of the process of thinking. So that's epistemology, some have faith. Epistemologies based on faith and belief. That's a claim to no knowledge, but it's no proof. No proof, but just belief. But once epistemology is how one gains knowledge. Hopefully that was briefing to the point.
Speaker Blair: I believe that, yeah, that should work. Thank you so much. Now, I love the subtitle here. Shouldn't you really know better after all this time, after all the missteps and the tragedies and the calamities that have happened and are happening now?
Speaker Andy: I had to put that in there. Okay, so it's been 2500 years since Aristotle, and he did have some mistakes and errors, but fundamentally he was correct about the use of reason for decisions in your own life, the basis of science and technology. Again, how do we know the universe? How do we then get to make decisions? Which is the area of ethics? Once Ethics said Aristotle, that is how we should act, is based upon reason, knowing things and making knowledgeable decisions. So it's been 2500 years, and in line with Iran's quote above about brilliant eras, eras for man, we have 2500 years of evidence of what fundamentally leads to poverty, to misery and genocide, but the mystics of muscle and the mystics of spirit, and those are terms that are in the video, which we explain there, are allowed to continue their plunder. So every individual should know this information and not allow the destruction of their values to continue. So we really should know better after all this time.
Speaker Martin: And do you see that right now, for example, what's going on in Russia and Ukraine? Warfare. And they get moral support from a church or from an orthodox.
Speaker Andy: Yes, the Putin is getting support from the church. Yeah. And so the mysticism is supporting the initiation of force. Is that what you're getting at?
Speaker Martin: Yes.
Speaker Andy: And so it goes on and it's destructive. Human lives are obviously people are dying, being murdered. There's some evidence of some level of young aside. And think of the prosperity, think of this being demolished. Think of the misery that's being caused. This doesn't have to happen anymore. We really should know better after all this time. Yeah. So good example martin thank you.
Speaker Blair: So why don't you give us a highlight of the title of each of your six episodes and then a brief explanation.
Speaker Andy: Happy to do that. So not going to go deep in depth here on the podcast and repeat everything, the video series?
Speaker Blair: No, you don't have to do that, but yeah.
Speaker Andy: Okay. So there are 610 minutes videos, as Blair mentioned. Here are the titles of the six basic concepts. Okay? Just some of the philosophical terms. So we're all speaking the same language. Blair, Martin, one of you guys asked about do we talk about the Aristotelian era accomplishments? And we do. And that's video number two, various eras where Aristotelian thought was very strong in those cultures and there were positive prohuman accomplishments. Then we get to video three, the antiairistotelian destruction. So we're, the anti Aristotelian, that is, the mystics of muscle and the mystics of spirit were led to cultures in terms of thought, the destruction. There we've got all these very concrete examples. It's not a bunch of floating philosophy, though. Again, we do have abstract ideas. A lot of concrete to make a point here. The fourth one is the demand to follow commands. We talk about what that is. We talk about the initiation of force. Again, both of those are examples. And six, thank goodness, we talk about an antidote. So we talk about what do we do about this mess? How do we make human life more prosperous, more healthy, more happy? Within those videos are the six points of the pattern. Those are not the six points of the pattern. Some of them are, but they're in there. As we go through these things, I will be pointing out what the six points are. It's important to note that these aren't random and unconnected. They are integrated and they flow from one another. So this isn't just some random listing. There's a flow here. So the first episode, part one, is basic concepts. And again, in this video, we begin the examination of why over the past 2500 years, human beings have suffered for most eras through genocide, poverty, disease and misery. Including here are some examples. The Christian Dark Ages and the Inquisition, jihad and terrorism, wars, Nazi concentration camps, communist gulags, monarchies, dictators and so on. And we'll see who the anti Aristotelians are and that they are anti life and anti happiness. Thus, they are responsible for these tragedies across the past 2500 years. In contrast, though, the good news is human beings have also experienced eras of freedom, relative freedom, relative prosperity and peace, scientific advances, medical, technological, and thus overall enhanced quality of life. We'll also see that it is the Aristotelians who have brought this enhanced quality of life and that going forward, this should be the expected norm for human life and happiness. I know this by your initial question. This may seem like an obtuse, floating, crazy, complex topic, but it is essential for your life and your happiness in the lives and happiness of your listeners. We also cover a bunch of philosophical concepts in the first part, life, happiness, values, Aristotelian, anti Aristotelian reason. So we have definitions. We're not just throwing floating philosophical concepts at your listeners, we have definitions for them and we talk about happiness and reason. So that's the first episode. Any questions about that before I move on?
Speaker Blair: No, go on.
Speaker Andy: Okay. So part two now provides the Aristotelian era accomplishments. Again, concrete examples. In this video we look at the accomplishments of the various eras of the Aristotelians. These are areas where Aristotle's system of reason dominated the culture to a large degree. The predominance of reason in the culture of these eras enhanced the quality of human life and happiness. And we see the triumph of reason in these eras. Ancient Greece, around the time of Aristotle, the Arab and Jewish world of about 1000 years ago, the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. And then one that doesn't get much attention, but it's called the Hasskala, which is the Jewish Enlightenment of the late 18th and into the 19th century and impact into the 20th century. Yes.
Speaker Martin: May I ask interrupt you there already? Because I did that as a mental note there. Could you talk a little about the Huskala and the Wall Street brothers? And also you have some ideas about maybe misranse of life and also if this is existing in today's Israel, it was many questions there, but if you want because I have never heard about this before.
Speaker Andy: Yeah, and I cover it in my book, so if you want to really dive into it. But I briefly covered in the video series. So the context is about 1000 years ago, 800 years ago, there were Christian, Muslim and Jewish intellectuals who started bringing reason back into the world. In the Christian world there was Aquinas and others. In the Islamic world there was Avaros and Abyssina. And in the Jewish world there was my Mendes and Gersonides. And they were all trying to integrate reason into their religions. In some cases, most cases even put reason above religion. And I cover that in the book. I could go on this forever and I won't. So My Mendes and Garcities laid a foundation in the Jewish culture for a reason. Flash forward to the 17 hundreds. There was another Moses, and he slipped my mind. Moses, sorry about that, slipped my mind. But he took the ideas of amenities and grassroots and other Enlightenment area that is age of reason based thinkers and brought that into the Jewish culture. And you all may be familiar with the Reform movement in Judaism. It's a very reason based, it's not heavily religious, a form of Jewish culture and religion. It was based on the work of Moses, 1700 Moses, and out of that became great. And I cover this in my book. You look at Jewish culture percentage wise, there aren't that many Jews in the world. But if you look at the accomplishments, jews are like Nobel Prize winners, leading businessmen, intellectuals, inventors, all kinds of stuff. The accomplishments. And my premise is, because Jewish culture is highly Aristotelian. Now, people may say, Well, Jewish politics is very leftist. That's true. And that's a problem, I think, in the Jewish culture. But otherwise, from knowledge and education basis, there's a strong Aristotelian influence there. I did mention the video series, and it's just a premise. Ein Man's father was a scientist. He was a pharmacist, and she grew up in a reformed family. They were reformed Jews. And I think that if you understand the hazgala and the history of Aristotelianism in Jewish culture, I think that had to have an influence on her as it did with other Jews. Is that an answer question?
Unknown Speaker: Yeah. Thanks.
Speaker Blair: All right, you want to continue with a brief analysis of each one?
Speaker Andy: Yeah. So this is episode two still, and we look at some specific accomplishments. Again, some concrete. The printing press and the Renaissance, the great discoverers, Columbus, Magellan, the flourishing of art of Michelangelo and DaVinci, international trade blossoming, universities growing in Europe. You have Galileo and Newton and Tyco, Bra and Kepler, and the growth of medicine and science and microscopes and telescopes. So that all came from there. So we talk about those errors and those accomplishments. Then we get to episode or part three, the anti Aristotelian destruction. And this is where we start getting into the six points of the antiairistotelians. And this episode, this part three, antiairistian destruction, covers the first two points, the obliteration of Aristotle, and thus the obliteration of reason. And then two, the adoption of the arbitrary. So we just talked about what arbitrary is, and we gain an understanding, a basic understanding of the ideas of anti Aristotelians, including Jesus, St. Augustine, Mohammed, Emmanuel Kant, Adolf Hitler and Karl Marx. And we see again the genocide, the poverty, the war and overall misery caused by these ideas. In particular, the Christian Dark Ages and Inquisition. Islamic Jihad. Communist socialist genocide leading to millions of deaths in Russia, China, Vietnam, Cambodia. And of course, we have the Kante and Germans, who led to two world wars and tens of millions more murders. So between part two and part three, we see concrete of the good and the bad. We move to episode or part four, the demand to follow commands. And now in this episode, in this part, we cover two additional of the six points. Three and 4.3 is the submission to some alleged greater consciousness. They want you to give up your consciousness, your mind, and submit to some other one. And number four is the demand to follow rules or commands that come from the alleged greater consciousness. And we explain what consciousness is and the impact of when a culture and an individual gives up their consciousness to some alleged greater consciousness. And we cover examples from the Quran, hitler's Mind camp, karl Marx's Communist manifesto, the teachings of St. Augustine, emmanuel Khan's critique of pure reason, and the Sermon on the Mount from Jesus Christ. And we've got arbitrary rules from the Quran. I'm not going to go through them now, but you get an idea of the concrete of those two. So now we get to part five, episode five. Again, these are all about ten minutes long, some a couple of minutes shorter, some couple of minutes longer. In this part five, we look at the final two points of the six point pattern of the Anti Aristotelians. .5 is you get a fantasy reward for submitting to this alleged greater consciousness and for following the rules. So you get reward for this. It's a fantasy reward, but they tell you you're going to get things and then the .6 is but if you don't follow the rules, there will be the initiation of force if you don't follow the rules and commands of the anti recent program. And then so we examine the assertions of the rewards if you submit to the Antiairistotelians. These include Jesus Christ's claim of heaven. Hitler's fantasy of a racially pure culture marks his arbitrary vision from each according to his ability to each according to his needs, and Mohammed's dream of a paradise thereafter. And then we see where the initiation of force comes in. And we see, obviously, Hitler and his storm detachment, mohammed calling for jihad, karl Marx calling for the violent overthrow of the productive, and even in the United States of America, pre United States, pre Revolution, pre Founding Fathers, the Christian theocracy in North America, Plymouth Rock. Yes, yeah, all that. There are plenty of examples there. But then we get to part six, and that is the antidote to the Anti Aristotelian. And clearly the antidote is fundamentally is reason. And we review the antidote to the six points of the Anti Aristotelian that reason is the fundamental key to love, to life and happiness versus the fear, the genocide, the misery, the poverty of the anti Aristotelians. So we look at reason as a capitalism, as a political system of reason, and not to the arbitrary. Remember we mentioned the arbitrary and we talked about what that is. So your listeners know what that is, if they don't already. So that's one point. We look at the fact because capitalism is based upon reason. Reason is an attribute of the consciousness of the individual. We're not just cells in an organism. Martin. You are Martin and Blair you are Blair. Andy's. Andy. We're all individuals. Capitalism because it's based on reason, it's a system of voluntary trade of values. And because capitalism is based upon reason, it's a political system of individual and property rights, not the initiation of force that we see from the Anti Aristotelians. And because capitalism is based upon reason, it's the system for prosperity and happiness of human beings living on earth.
Speaker Blair: Let me jump in and reiterate too, and people often associate capitalism with just the economics, but it's actually an entire philosophic system named capitalism. It is a philosophy, it is an ethics, it's an economic system. But the philosophy and the ethics have been ignored or denounced until Ms. Rand corrected those errors, if you will. That's my personal view.
Speaker Andy: Absolutely.
Speaker Blair: It is quite more than just economics.
Speaker Andy: Absolutely. Yeah. I think people see a guy with gray hair in a business suit and say he's a capitalist and he may have something to do with business, but he may be tied into the government and getting favors and pushing for favors and regulations. Capitalism has been smeared, but I'm providing a definition and I include it in the video series. And basically, capitalism is a social system. While we are all individuals, there are relationships. There is politics in terms of relationships between individuals, and there has to be a social system for how individuals work together and for those individuals who don't work together, that is, those who initiate force. So she defined and I'm defining it loosely here, I do have the definition in the series, but it's the social system that protects all individual rights, including property rights. So we talk about that, and then we do end the series by another objectiveist concept by asking the question, are you motivated by love or are you motivated by fear? Are you an Aristotelian or an anti Aristotelian? And I won't go into all that now, but we do again reinforce your question earlier on about the subtitle, about we should know better by now. So there's further discussion of that. And then at the end, I kind of tied together with the tragic story of the church's attack on Galileo, and I talked about what happened to him and also why it happened as just another concrete example. But it's really a matter of choice. Every individual has the choice to think or not, and that's what, in the end, this is about. So, any questions?
Speaker Martin: Thomas yes, and I want to always end on a good note, but we talked in the green room here before, and you said you have got Alex Epstein's book, Fossil Fuels. So I wonder if environmentalists are new religion, and maybe you could come back for another episode and talk about that.
Speaker Andy: Oh, sure, yeah. Maybe talk about Alex's book in general, or just environmentalism in general?
Speaker Martin: Yeah, both.
Speaker Andy: I would love to do that. Yes.
Speaker Blair: The book is called Fossil Future. Yes, and it's outstanding. I bought it. I've read the first ten pages. I know I'm going to learn quite a bit from it.
Speaker Andy: Yeah, I do mention in the series.
Speaker Blair: But very briefly, let me just interject then. Philosophers throughout history, when they talk about history, they mentioned three people have brought us to where we are today, and that is Plato, Aristotle, and Emmanuel Kant. Plato and Emmanuel Kant are the anti Aristotelians, and we are seeing a Kant's work unraveling today. With environmentalism, with the restriction of productivity at every level. And the antidote again, would be in a modern day Aristotelian. And her name is Ayn Rand. That's my personal view, yes. But I believe she backs it up with facts, logic and I encourage everyone to read her work. That is why Martin and I have this podcast, because we are advocates of her ideas. Without apology, Andy, we really appreciate you coming on and discussing and elaborating on your video series.
Speaker Andy: Yes, I appreciate that. And just a plug for some past episodes that the three of us have had. We discussed previously the ideas of Aristotle and Iron Rand about happiness, in particular about Exalted Moments, the episode back in November. We've also discussed in previous episodes here on the secular Foxhole in two separate podcasts to modern day anti Aristotelians Jordan Peterson. Don't bite into the Jordan Peterson Marshmallow his Name episode. And then also about Dennis Prager. Back to the Dark Ages with Dennis Prager. So if you want to see more up to date view of antihearse Italians, we've covered them there, but always about it to spend time with you guys. A lot of fun. Always. Thank you.
Speaker Blair: You're welcome. And anyway, all of Andy's episodes correlate. So Andy, thanks for manning the Foxhole with us today.
Speaker Andy: My pleasure. Take care, fellas.
Speaker Martin: And I will end here with Segway in a way. But you had one in the series where, quote, where capitalism is based upon reason, a system of voluntary trade of values.
Speaker Blair: Correct.
Speaker Martin: Here at the end, I will announce the winner of 50,000 satoshi thanks to the Giveaway campaign by Fountain At. And that's Yay Kaider. He sent a boost to grab of 3800 satoshi with note value for value, exclamation point, love the podcast. And he sent that on July 19 and it was related to episode 52. So there you see one concrete example of that. And you said also that you are looking into that up. So we'll come back to that in the future. And again, I like the end note there that you say are motivated by love and loving life. So thanks for that, Andy. And do you have any ending note you're yourself?
Speaker Andy: I'm good. Fellas, thank you again as always for this opportunity. I appreciate it.
Speaker Martin: Thank you very much and talk to you soon again.
Speaker Andy: Take care guys. See you.
Speaker Blair: Take care. Thanks. Bye.