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What's going on? What did do? I got Dr. King in the building. Dr. King. What's happening, man? What's up my brother? Long time no see. Come on. We night. Y'all didn't have me off the, y'all didn't have me off the pot for a minute. Yeah, no, I've been on punishment. He's been on punishment. Let me change something. CJ had his way. He'd just be on here by myself.
Okay. I'll just be honest. I thought about that. This pocket, but so much better. Yeah. Right. If it was just me, you feel like Douglas. How you feeling? Can I be honest? Or we just doing that? How you feeling? I'll be honest. I just don't know because you might have a schedule. You like eat. I had you playing on that. I'll be honest, man.
Refresh, bro. Like, you know, the last couple of the last month has been rough, you know, with, you know, TJ losing his daughter, you know, Ari, you know, going through what Ari went through. Jatin seven years old diagnosed with cancer. Justin. Justin in the hospital still. It just did emergency surgery on him the other day, two o'clock in the morning.
So you know, when, you know, people always talk about when you have children, and this for a lot of people, but when you have kids, and I just play this to my dog kids, because they're like, I ain't call you because I was like, bro, once you can't get, I can't get you all off my mind.
You know, I'm saying like, I don't care how old you are. I still just need you to text me or call me in the morning. Just tell me you good, because I'm constantly thinking about y'all. Like, it's not a day where I'm like, oh, I forgot about Jayland. I forgot about Jayland. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I get y'all. I'm not y'all child. So y'all don't think about me like that, but I wake up every day.
No, I do think about you like, okay, I know more pray for me. I'm still praying for you. I'm still working for you. God is good. So I'll be honest. You know, it's the same with the church. And so there was a time where it was like, yo, my life was not my own. It was so much going on. I had to be there because you know, here's where people don't realize, man, you know, people, people snap.
You know, I'm saying like people snap, like we look at people like, oh, they're strong, but people snap. And sometimes people, I know people personally, one day they was good next day. They was in the state of depression that was like, you know, that could take you either way, you know, and so this was a time where not just for the kids, but I had to really be there for the parents and like regularly.
You know, I'm saying when you lose somebody or when your child can't walk whatever whatever, you know, they can't talk. They don't know they, you know, I'm saying they name. It's like, okay, that's one part, but the part of you being there for the parents and really making sure that they're healthy and they're well, you know, and a lot of people get the privilege of coming to a funeral and leave it.
Yeah, you know, I'm saying they get to go to the repass. I love you. You know, I miss you. Whatever they don't know that you got to stick with and stay with especially for us with TJ is like, that's the two man. And so you lose your two man.
You lose a lot. So it's like when you lose your two man emotionally, you got to be the one and the two. You know, I'm saying. And so it was a rough, it was a rough time period, but going to, going to Italy, you know, I got a chance to unplug one thing I love about going out of the country, like going to a different country of different continent is like.
Some kind of way you feel justified because of the time zone, you know, I'm saying with like, like you could be at the crib, like let's say you go to Florida for seven day vacation, you still and you still people can still get to kind of way. You know what I said is like you out, but you still answer your phone, you still making sure everything is moving when you out the country is like, yo, I don't got to add to the phone.
I'm like, figure it out on your own. And so that's how I feel every day. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. I don't know what you mean. Yeah, I'm going to get to that. What is the freedom go. You don't have on the record. You know, so, so no, just to just to reset and then. Oh, come on, tell us about it. Not on you do that. You know, saying we had the event in London, you know, saying and then y'all, you y'all took off, which was a crazy event.
Because for me, I'm getting to a point where it's like, okay, I got to make my wife a priority. I literally didn't get to England until Saturday morning and I had to speak Saturday. Yeah, you feel me. So it was, it was weird. You know, I'm saying it was weird. You know, it's like I got there. Got D.D. Settle. It was like, okay, I'm out. And when you loved, it's tough, right?
When you loved, it's tough because it's like, I speak at six, but it's like, don't nobody want me to get there. Five 50. You know, I said, people want me to get there. I did, but. Yeah, the rest of the world. You know what I'm saying? And again, it's the we don't get to chance to fellowship. So it's like e here. Let's fellowship. So did that, but I was smart.
Even though it was hard. We had a 720 AM flight. So you know, we had to get. But I don't know why they did this, but man, we was in England. I know I had to be around more rhythm to it, but we literally stayed an hour from the airport. I had never done that before. Like we normally stay. Like I remember one event we did was at the airport. When me and Tommy went, we were literally at the airport across the street, but we was an hour away. And then he had traffic in London.
Probably. They don't even be that Thor. The event was still another hour away. So like I drove an hour to get to the hotel. Then my man drove me to the hour. I was like, what's about 15 minutes? He's like, no, it's an hour. He's like, really is 30, but it's an hour because of traffic. So long story short, that was a lot. So I got DD up the next morning, but I wanted to get to Venice as early as possible so we could do the day.
Yeah, not get there in the afternoon. Right, right. We didn't have to know. I was like, no, we got to get this early as possible. So we got there. How long a flight is that? Oh, I 145 from London. Yeah, it's like going to Alabama. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So got there. Good bad room wasn't ready until about 140. We got there at about noon. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Something like that. 11, whatever. So we end up going to get something.
You post a boss up slap your credit card down and be like, pay for last night. Give me the room right now. What I was taking. Okay. No, no, no, no. People out. Yeah. Yeah. No, listen to me. This is important. Y'all like this is important. Now I do do. I have to do that a lot. I don't know why I didn't do it on this one. But anyway, this is important. Well, our 40 minutes. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Not that was. That's a ball. Let's start. No, I do do that. Cause like for real, somebody bring you to the event. Yeah. Now, the morning is like, bro, you can't see you in wait. No, we got a three in the London at 6 a.m. Right. Got to the hotel at 738 o'clock. Yeah. We had the book for the night before. Yeah. Cause it's two. Yeah. And we not sitting right here to three.
No, I do. You know what I'm saying? But I will say this to those of you who are listening. You get on a flight in this first class, you know, and then you guys business class. Bro, I've never seen an empty seat. I'm just saying I want you to hear what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. I've never seen an empty seat. Bro, like I've never seen an empty first class seat. And here's what you don't know. They don't free upgrade to Delta one.
Not on the international. Yeah. Not on international. Not in the international. Not in the first. Yeah. Yeah. Atlanta Chicago. Yeah. They got all you get status. Come on. What? Yeah. They do not put you in Delta one, even like 360. You don't have Delta one. They're not going to be like, oh, okay. We got two available. They'll just leave them. Jogas empty.
Bro, listen to me. You know what? You remember where else they did that? Me at the earliest. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So in Australia, I guess Australians don't believe in filing first class. Yeah. We went on by three full flights. Me and he was the only ones in first class. They don't see the value. Listen.
They don't believe in that. I think I told this three before we don't forget. It was funny. It's all get out. So shout out the Glenn. Glenn. I know you watch it, man. It's our guy who brought us into Australia.
Yeah. Bro, it's like let's say 12 seats in first class. Bro, they put a rope up. Like, you know how we got the curtain in the state in Australia. They got the rope. It was just like a red rope. Like whatever. Don't come back. Anyway. So I'm in the last row of first class. I'm because I wanted to talk to Glenn. He in the first row of second class.
So we talking to whatever and he's like, man, he's like, it was aligned to the bathroom in the back. He was like, I said, bro, this comes to the bathroom in first class. He was like, oh, no, mate. He's like, I can't do it. I said, bro. What is that? No, he said, no, I made it. I can't make it. He got the voice. So this was so funny. He had a line in gazelle video at the time. I said, bro, this is the gazelle rope.
They tried to keep all the gazelles. I said, bro, break the rope. He was like, he looked around. I'm talking about light. It's in the nowhere to be found. I don't know if he walked. Got to the bathroom. That lady was like, sir, I'm talking about. He was like, bro, I'm saying, no, what's he gonna do? In the States, you can go up to first. Then nobody tripping. You know what I mean? You don't go up to first.
That's the bathroom. We was only one in that. No, bro. We literally, and let's air was on there. And air. Oh, since only we put it. Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. But life was once twice on a rig. Though we would fly. It was so awkward. The only two black dudes on the flight is the only ones flying in first class. I mean, I looked at he like, why don't they was like, that's the same thing, bro. But they don't upgrade. I said they're not going up.
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So, so I'm and again, bro, I'm just being honest because I, you know, you talk a lot of you guys. When you hear money and how to make money, I think the challenge with Jamal that I have with mall is he telling you all, but you're all looking for principles and y'all miss what he's saying is his mindset. You know what I'm saying? Like that's where money starts. Like money don't start with money. Money starts with your mindset. So it's like when I get on the flight, I'm looking at each class.
And I'm like, yo, this clap, this plane is full. Like it's full. And it's full because in each section, each person made a decision on where they wanted to be. You feel me? And so one group was like, I can't fly seven hours and 50 minutes sitting all the way up right. You know what I'm saying? They like, like, I got a laid on. You know what I'm saying? And so we had a couple that passed us.
And Diti was like, why don't you say something to you? Like she's like, you must be friendly or something because they ain't saying that nobody else. I was like, I am. And so they were like, how is it? I was like, how is what? It was like, how was it sitting in first class? And I was like, I was dope. Like you can lay all the way down. And it was like, yeah, we thinking about on the next one. We thinking also over the white couple. It was like, yo, we thinking about doing it the next time.
I was like, yeah, you should. You know what I'm saying? Like, you should do it. You know what I'm saying? But Diti was just tripping because they were asking about the experience. And I was like, yo, it's, I want to demystify it for you. The same way you choose to sit in the back and you make it happen is the same way you sit in the front and make it. But like you could sit in the back and you can visualize it. Like you could see yourself buying the ticket for.
And then if you fly international and you pay to go international, you pay more than what you would. Like I want you to get what I'm saying. People fly international economy and fly national economy. You feel me like you got to hear what I'm saying. The money you spent to fly international economy. It's what you were paying to fly first class. It's a mindset. You know what I'm saying? So you thinking you doing it because that's what it cost.
Now you doing it because that's your mindset. So you go do economy anywhere you go, even though it costs more to go economy internationally, you still going to pay economy because your mindset is economy. And you'll find a way to come up with the economy money to go international, but you can't find the money to go. It's that it's that right side of the main talent. They always looking for the deal. What's the what's the thing?
It ain't really a saving. You think about it. It's not saving. Right now if you got to sit up. Of for seven and a half hours and you can't get water when you want water. You wait on somebody. And so I just want you to understand I'm not in the first class second class third class. I don't make me no different. I'm just saying if you tell your mind, I'm going to do economy that everywhere you go, you're going to do economy. I promise you did he say when we got to the hotel, listen to me.
When I got the when the travel agent did the hotel for me, they were just saying like, yo, how much are you willing to pay? And I was like, yo, I don't want to pay nothing. I don't want to pay anything. Like don't get it twisted. Like I'm not trying to take money out of my account. And I'm saying I said, but do me your favor. Like you're you're helping me. So I need you to think the way I would think. Don't think the way you would think.
No, I had to say that, Mark, because when Rondeo did my lights, I just told him to go do my lights for me. He bought the cheapest lights, the fixes you could buy. Like, and did he was like, who bought these? I'm like, Rondeo bottle. That's how like God told you. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm like, Rondeo bottle. And so I had to explain to Rondeo, okay, I get what you're doing. But you're using your money to buy my light fixtures, but I got to pay you back.
So you're going to buy light fixtures with your mindset, because he's like, it was money. I was like, it's not money. Because I'm giving you the money back. So it wasn't money. You didn't lose nothing. You were spending your money. You were spending my money, but you went and spent your money. So you went and bought me the cheapest thing that you could find that looks good. Because somewhere in your mind, but the cheaper ones, I was ashamed to lose.
Yeah, yeah. What do you call? Oh, oh, yeah. So he bought those for. Y'all cause it told him, oh, go ahead. So I was like, you're more. I mean, Rondeo, can you go grab? Cause he handyman. So it's what you didn't tell him like, what's the? I know because I'm thinking you looking around. Well, black and early interior. It was looking around, but he ran out of his house. Right. And in his mind, I he not seeing. I'm saying, you saw the couch.
He said, you saw the look. So get something. And so I had this plane around there. Like do me a favor. He bought me paint. He bought the whatever. He didn't buy the Benjamin or whatever it is. Like he bought the paint that he. Right. I'm like, yo, it matters. Like, yeah, you could put it all in whatever. But the is not about expensive. The higher quality, cause you could buy a higher quality. Sometimes you can get it memorial day for July.
So it's not always expensive. But it's a quality that is whatever. But you got to remember though, he and I'm just doing this with my blue collar, you know, people. Yeah. A lot of people get they they don't really look at the quality. Yes. They look at the saving. Yes. And they they feel good. When it's if you have a maybe your parents, I ain't gonna say no nice. But have you heard person say like like I say they don't really talk. I say yes. I saved a whole 50%.
Yeah. Yeah. And it's in his mind. And then Margaret up 50% to do. But I'm saying, but I gotta be like, because that is their marketing strategy. Cause they put that under receipt. No question. You say it. Like, you're on your own saving. Oh, with that Kroger car. Yeah. Yeah. But you like said, it was already they put the price up a little bit. So, so I'm saying one thing I had to learn was if your brain can get you economy, then your
brain can get you economy plus or your brain. Cause he was happening is you don't get it. Once you set the standard, then what your body does in your mind and. Yeah. And please don't cause I know I can see people already in the company. We're not saying literally first class coach, whatever. No, no, no, because everybody has their own thing. You can sit in coach and ball out and have a yacht. If you're just there, your thing.
I know plenty of people who think is not first class. No, that's fine. But we're talking about in life. The things that you ask. I'm talking about first class. Yeah. That's what I'm saying for you. What exactly for you? I just want to make sure people know. Tell my first plan. You get people like I know some I'm talking about mega millionaires would be like, I don't like sending first class. It's waste of money. You know what I'm saying? It's not they think, right?
But they, you know, got other things that are saying that we're saying whatever your thing is. Yeah. Cause I'm even saying like, you're if you're talking transportation, just plain transportation. Oh, for sure. Bruh. You might be doing better with a Honda. Then you are some of the vehicles. Yeah. Like if you get a Honda, you get the right Honda. Like in terms of how the distance is going to take. Yeah. That was in my. Yeah. We're saying whatever you're thinking.
Yeah. That's what he's saying. I wanted to catch that because I want them specifically to think we talking about first class. Yeah. But I'm just saying a Honda could be first class. If you're talking about transportation. Yeah. Because it's going to give you a better quality dance. Like bro, we had a BMW. I had to give everything to be. I'm done because the way they made it. I don't want to go through all that.
But it's going to keep tearing up. Honda, bro, you ain't going to have no problems with Honda. So that's what I mean by first class. Honda in cars. If we not own design quality wise, it's the best. It's one of the best vehicles that they make. So when we're talking about paint, I'm not talking about the cost of paint. I'm talking about there is a quality that makes it first class that is some paints that's inexpensive.
That's inexpensive, but it's cheap. There's some things that are like a Honda is phenomenal and it's price reasonable. Everything that's first class, they don't always overcharge you for it. You feel me? So but what you have to understand is if you, and I want you to get money now. How you make money, how you live blissfully, how you take care of your health, everything. It's a mindset. So for somebody to go, I'm going to buy this dollar menu. You could also go buy organic fruit.
The fruit doesn't buy itself or the cheap stuff don't buy. You have to buy it. But what you're doing is your mindset is saying, oh, it's a dollar 50. It's $2. I can afford it. Somebody also looking at organic and going, it's $4. I can afford it. And so then once you go, you can afford it. This is the problem. I want you to cast it. He go to biggest power. Once you go, you can afford it. Whether it's $2 or $4, then you as a person begin to do the things that are required to ask to go pay for it.
So the McDonald's that you paying $2 for it, you still got to pay for that. It ain't free. But what you do is go, I can afford $2. And so then you go out. You might work a nine to five. You may be, what is that thing called? More shoe telemarketer. Right. You may go and work as a flight attendant. Like, like once you say this, how much it costs. It's not what it costs. It's important. It's you activate something in you that makes you do what you do.
So you can actually go do it. Here's what I'm saying. I'm saying since you going to do something anyway. Why not do the like don't make a choice. Make the best choice. Right. So a choice for me is I could. I'm trying to think of something that I could do. Like I could do research. But I'm not going to be that good at doing research. So if I'm only thinking about paying $2, then I'm going to do research.
But if I'm thinking, yo, I want Didi to live. I got paid for my kids college. I got paid for my kids college. I'm going to sit down and go different decisions. We not making a decision. I'm making the best decision. What's the best decision? The best decision is Eric Thomas on the microphone. That's not a decision. When you talk about Eric Thomas, the best decision Eric can make is somewhere where he's speaking.
Somewhere he's counseling. Somewhere he talking to people. Cause I can do this for the next five. So what I'm trying to get you to see is when you lower the cost, you also lower your choice. You lower in your choice. And so instead of you doing doing the best version of you, you're doing a two lot of version of you. But when you sometime go photo, then you like, if I got to pay photo, I'm going to be the best version.
So I want you to understand some. When I go, Jayla is coming out with a clothing line. He needs X Y Z. Jayda needs a master's degree. And then Jayda needs to go to California so she can get licensed. There's a reason why my daughter went to California. I don't know if you know why she went. But it was the best choice. What do you mean by that Eric? When you go to California, get a license.
You could practice anywhere. You come to Michigan and you pass. You can only practice in a couple of states. So Jayda didn't go to Cali because she wanted to be at the beach. She went to California because she's saying, if I do this one and I pass for the rest of my life, I can go wherever I want to go. If I do it in Michigan and decide one day, I want to go to California as an adult, I got to take this test all over again.
So I don't want to take the test multiple times. I want to take the, I want the best choice. So I'm saying you just have to be careful because sometimes when you bring your standards down, you also bring you standard down. I'm saying, again, I want to make sure you're not missing it. I'm not saying you're bringing your standard down. I'm saying you are bringing you down because you're going, oh, I'm sitting in the back.
And you're not sitting in the back. Some of you not sitting in the back because you want to sit in the back. You're sitting in the back because you felt like I can afford to sit in the back. Well, you can afford to sit wherever you want to sit, but you have to decide that you want to be the best version of you before we got here. Yo, I'm doing the 365 devotional, the audio for October. That's the best use of my time. Not me cleaning baseball. E, you got some wrong with baseball? Absolutely not.
And D.D. might debate whether that's you see or not. I don't know what I'm saying. Yeah, I'm going to say what she think the best you see. Now I'm going to say she probably would think more is the best use of my time, but her being OCD, she knows it's not the best use of my gift. Yeah, she knows when I clean baseball, it's still in clean. It's still in clean. You feel I'm saying she's still no, she like you didn't clean the bathroom. I can't tell you clean the bathroom.
So what I had to realize was, yo, you can clean the bathroom and make this person. What's the where I'm looking for y'all immediately happy? Like you satisfy her desire, but you know, e, bro, if you go speak, you can pay, you can get Molly made out in this joke of emissioning in that air. You can get somebody who do that for a living to come in here and knock it out. So again, I just want to make sure when we talk money, you don't get us twisted. I'm not even on money.
I'm just saying you make an average choice. You lower the go, I can afford that, then you lower everything else about you. I want to go to opposite way, he just to make sure people understand because there's situations where you have stopped doing something because of a bad experience. Yeah. All right, let's play a true for a dare for a minute. Can you name every subscription you're signed up for?
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It was a crazy experience. I was like, I'll never fly USA, you will never get another dollar from me again. I don't care what the price is, if it was the cheapest ticket, I will never fly on that again. I've never flown on that again. So I'm just saying for you, if you're looking at it, if you're not connecting with ESA, it was clear. But if you're not, I want you to think about, you stop some things, which means you have the ability to open up other things.
You see what I'm saying? You follow what I'm saying? Absolutely. So I haven't flown that. I flew Spirit one time and realized that they had about 40,000 fees for my extra bag. I'm never flown Spirit. Can you see what I'm saying? So because of that, I'm like, I can't do that. I did Southwest one or two times. I was like, I need a seat. Like, what is going on? Like, I'm in line to get, I can't do this.
We fly Delta and I'm not, I don't know that Delta is the best. I've not looked at rankings, but my experience with Delta every time has been. Yeah. We are. Yeah. We are. What you going to say, my experience at Delta has been different than every other airline Delta just started back going to Barbidus. I told you last week. Praise God. We booked our flights to Delta. It's not waiting. That's why I wasn't interested in going because I had to take a couple of other airlines.
It was like, yo, this ain't with them. It was always, I'm calling them out. American Airlines, bro. They're the one that American jet blue would go jet blue. We got to go through New York, which is just sometimes just not cool. American Fort Lauderdale Miami, bro, and they're overbook every single flight. Every flight. So it's like you scrambling at the last minute. Not me. We got a seat, but now you can see them scrambling.
I was like, yo, I want to do that. Delta. We booked our flights, bro. Immediately. Oh, Delta going. And where does it go from Atlanta? They go from Atlanta. Oh, come on. Bro, book flights. You see what I'm saying? So I'm just saying like there's three or five airlines that we cut completely out of our life because like that's not where we belong. We're not doing that. I'm not saying whatever. It's just not for us. Delta works.
So for somebody out there, you have stopped something and positioned yourself in some other area. Let's keep doing that same thing in other areas of your life. Find the thing that works and keep us. That's what I said. It's not money. But let me ask you. Well, what comes first? And more maybe you could speak to this, the chicken or the egg, right? Like I got the job. Like I went to school.
Maybe I graduated high school. I got the job. I'm a police officer. I get paid. Now this is what I can afford. Right? Like so y'all are like you're saying it is if I'm making this choice. And then I'm going to find out what job I'm going to work in order to fulfill that. But a lot of people. It's the other way around. Right? Like I said, what's going to take me to the egg? It's like I went to school. Yeah, but I think it pays 65,000, 70,000 here.
I look at my bills. I look at how much my kids got to do. They sports and I look at this and my wife make her money. And then we look at it all together. And we go, all right, this is how much we have for a vacation. And this is what it cost. And that's that. But more says something that was so deep to me. I just want to make it more practical for you. Yeah, you know, people listening like, okay, I hear what y'all saying. I should be flying first class.
I'm not saying you should be flying first class. But you know what I mean? Yeah, metaphorically. I'm saying I think group thinking is messed us all up. And the one thing that mall said that I said to Jaylen, me and Jaylen talk yesterday. And I was like, your book. Do me a huge favor, bro. Do me a huge favor. How much does it cost to be you? Come on. And here's what I asked them. I said before we even go there. Who are you?
I said, who are you? Jaylen? Because I don't even think I don't think the real question for you right now. Because for me, it is. How much does it cost to be me? Yeah, I think the real question of it Jaylen. Who are you? I don't know. I mean, I know. About 5,000. But you're a guy. Yeah, but I'm saying for real, mall. So I had a bro. When I tell you, bro, I had the greatest conversation man I've ever had this year. My boy LD his daughter. And now she called me and said Uncle E. I said, what's up?
She said, you think I should go to college? I was like, man, I'm so glad you called me ask me. I said, because 90% of the world they just go to college for nothing. I said, I got it. I got it. I said, let me tell you something. I don't think you should go to college. And she said, okay, why you say that? I said, because you just told me you don't like math. You don't like biology. You don't like chemistry. That's all you don't do.
You know, you was real with me. You told me, you don't like this. And you said you don't want to be a doctor and bro, trust me. I always knew what she home all because in the culture, it's got to be a doctor. You go to a group, bro. Like, awkward ain't football basketball. Oakwood number one, a be a doctor. I said, you know, I'm saying, Moni, I can name a bunch of them. They all went to Oakwood to be doctors.
And that's the thing or lawyer, whatever. So I was like, yo, I'm gonna be real with you. If you don't want a job that requires you to have a license, a lawyer, a doctor, a engineer, she said, I want to be an entrepreneur. I said, look, I, we good. I said, here's what I want you to do. I do want you to pick where you would have went to college. And I want you to go get an apartment there.
I said, I don't want you to stay at home. I don't want you to stay at the crib because Joseph had to get from around his dad, his brother. Like, you can't just be standing at the crib. But figure out where you want to go to college because you do need a friend group. And just go get an apartment. See if they even let you on the dorm without paying for your wish and just get in the dorm. Like, just ask. They might let you get in the dorm without even, and so for me, it was like, bro.
That's crazy. I'm living in the dorm. I won't go here. I just be, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, to my son. I was like, yo, the biggest problem we have, I don't even know if what you picked is what you want to do. I don't even know. I just know somebody told you you got to go to college. Somebody told you got to. So it's a bunch of group thinking. So who are you? And so he was like, I know dad design is my thing. Like, I easily drink clothes. Like, this is what I love. I was like, okay, good.
So you're going to be doing this for the next 30 years. He's like, absolutely. I was like, okay, get back. How much does it cost to be you? He was like, okay, what do you mean by that? I say, like a hundred thousand a month. Which is phenomenal. Yeah. I was like, first of all, Jay, I can tell you how much it's cost to be you, but you can't tell me. I know how much it cost to be you. I know what your bills are.
But do you know how much it cost to be you? He's like, no, and I was like, so let's start here. What do you need to be you? Yeah. What do you need to eat? How many day, times of day you need, what do you need to eat? Right. I'm not tripping if you want to eat eight fires all day. But if a person wants to eat at eight, five, that's a good life. Different. If you want to eat eight, five, what is it? How different is it? You know, you have to make.
So your mother might go, that cost too much. Sweetheart. Why are we on money? We should be on choices. Yeah. Like that's what I want people to understand. When she said first class, bro, we're not talking about two fly first class. And not to fly for her. We're talking about choices. And I told you, there's a reason why I fly first class. Now, Deity got on my head about it. Because Deity was like, oh, no, I don't agree with you. And I was like, what do you mean you don't agree with me?
She's like, you say you want us to sit together so we can talk. We ain't talking the way I want to talk. And I was like, oh, you're right. I do get on the flight. I talked to you before it take off. We pray together. Then once we take off, a lot of times I do be in my own. Yeah, I prayed before the flight. Yeah, I prayed before every flight. Really? Yeah. It's what I'm praying with me. I don't want to fly with you. I don't want to fly with you. I don't even sit next to CJ. I don't play.
I just sat next to you the other day. When coming back to Toronto. Okay, you was behind. Hey, it was me. I didn't pray for him. No, no, pray for him. He was sitting behind us though. Yeah. So me and Deity didn't pray for him. I just didn't include him in the press. He was behind. I was sitting right out. No, I went to the side. We prayed for him more. And you know, I didn't see that. The Bible doesn't tell us to call everybody that we pray for. And tell them we pray. Exactly. I didn't know that.
Wait. Yeah. You don't say that. Yeah. So we pray for you. Do you pray before I get on the plane? Like if I call you on the fly? I know I'm on the fly. Okay. One thousand. Okay. And what do I say when I was asked you what? You landed. Absolutely. All the time. All the time. Why? Because if something happened to y'all, you're about to alter my life. So I'm like, okay, you landed. You did that for me. I was just saying, you just did that was a London or something.
You just said I'm not just like, yeah, let me know. Yeah. When you make it. That's it. Because I'm like, if y'all don't make it, something go happen to me. If y'all don't make it. So I'm just saying, you know, a lot of times people listen and take stuff the wrong way. I'm saying every human gets to make that choice. I'm saying most of you don't make the best choice. You make other choices. Yeah. And she was brave enough to go uncle E. I don't want to make my mother's choice. Who went to Oakwood?
I don't want to make my father's choice. Who came to Oakwood? I don't want to make that choice. I want to be an entrepreneur. Yeah. And so I'm like, all right, bet. So you need to take this assessment. We need to figure out who you are. So she said something deep. She's like, is this assessment going to tell me who I am? I said, no. What it's going to do is tell you what your tendencies are. And then you could put this information to chat and GPT. And it's going to give you a list of.
And then from there, I need to kind of figure out. So I just want to make sure, I don't know what we name in the podcast. But don't get it twisted on the first class. I'm telling you, if you want your mayors to be better, if you want your money to be better, you want your ministry to be better, it doesn't get better just because of money or because you're trying to save or because you have to make choices and not just choices. You have to make the best choice.
So what we at Michigan State, of course, we were at Michigan State. Was it good to us? It was great for us. But the better choice is to run our own company. Let me tell you something. Because some of you want to be entrepreneurs and you're not built to be an entrepreneur. Listen to me very closely. I promise you, if the better choice was for us to still be at Michigan State, see what it been like. We still need to be at Michigan State University. And we would have stayed there.
Listen to me, I quit Michigan State long before I quit. I've been quit. I was like, see, we need to get out of here. And he like, not now. And then he was like, go talk to the mentors. And I went talk to Dr. June. I went talk to Dr. Curry. I went talk to Rodney. And everybody said, do not leave until you have this. Yeah. I get the choice you want to make. But you leaving right now is not the best choice. Yeah, that's so crazy. We really left like, you might think like, oh, we had it.
The side helps build up crazy. Not at all. But I think what people don't realize, like, we just want to figure it out. Yeah. What people don't realize is that they think that when they make a choice for a decision, that, and it's my blue collar people, right? Yeah, if I was talking about that decision, they only see the effect of the decision today. Not realizing that, yeah, you see the effect of the decision today, but the implication of the decision has a long term effect that you can't see.
Is that a future thing that you can't see? And I think that if people was able to look into the future and just ask themselves, how will this decision affect me, not just today? Because today you could deal with it. But in the future, you can't deal with it. The future is going to be harder. It's going to compound over time. And so I think a lot of people don't look at it. I ain't talking about first class, right?
First, for me, if I go, if I go rag coach for eight hours, I would have got off that plane. And you know, because of my hips and my back, I would have got off that plane, and then when I'm speaking, it would have affected the speaking now on stage, because I would have been in so much pain. Which would have affected your wife. It would have affected that glow. It would have affected that glow. It would have affected that glow. It would have affected that glow. Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on.
Come on. But a lot of people just don't see it, man. And I think that that was instrumental for me, like ever since then, you go back to what you was talking about. Just knowing what you want in life. Yeah. So let me do it. Let's do it again. Yeah. I know my job is to make this practice. All right. Cool. So you said 17 or a little mama cool. She got her whole life ahead of her. Yeah. Well, I need you to talk to the people that say, I'm 35. I'm 40. You right.
I didn't make the choices that allow me to provide for my family in a way I want to provide or do the things I want to do. Now what? You know what I'm saying? I talked to them and it's like, yo, okay, cool. I hear you. I got you right after you finished. I was 17 and I made a choice to be a male man. Yeah. Nothing wrong with it. But like I looked up and I went, okay, this is the life that I've been up. Yeah. And it's not exactly what I want.
So you're talking about now, we're talking about hindsight now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying, but how do you do it in the mix? Like, you can't go back in the past. And I got 30 grand credit card. Right. Exactly. You can't go back in the past. Yeah. But it's done the reason why you went to position you went today is because of what you've done for the last 10 to 15 years. Yeah. You have to make a shift. You got to say, okay, cool. Yeah. Matter of fact, you just need to say, lead a past to pass.
Everything you've done, you need to just right now start working on the future. You need to go back and be aware. Yeah. What do I want my life to look like? One thing I found out is that if you don't really take the time to paint the picture, what you want your life to look like, you're never going to get there. You're never going to work towards that direction. And that's 90% of people, they just get up and they just live life. Yeah. Whatever life throw at them. Group that.
And they don't even realize there's a certain, there's a certain group of us that has literally said, this is what I want my life to look like. I want to be able to travel in these places. Even though I can't afford to go to these places right now, I still want to be able to travel to these places one day. All right. Jamal, how am I going to get there? I can't get there just by getting there. My job ain't going to never get me there.
I have to make a decision on what am I, what's shifling I'm going to do? What other job am I going to do? What are the investment I'm going to do that's going to allow me now to travel the way that we see us traveling. If you did that in every area of your life, what would your life look like? Whatever it was, you did it. Just think about that. Just think about it. If you literally set back and said, man, I know I live in this two-bedroom apartment right now.
And for this moment, there's nothing wrong with this two-bedroom apartment. But what if I just said I want to live in a 10,000 square foot house? What would that look like? And if you really set in that vision of that 10,000 square foot house, and then you reverse engineer and said, okay, now what does it take for me to get there? What will happen? Like literally, most people, though, they don't believe that that vision, that they, matter of fact, most people don't even come up with the vision.
First off, they do come up with the vision. They don't even believe that the vision is for them, or they don't believe that that's even practical. It can happen. Or I was looking at your post that you made. That was a great post that you made with your children in Paris. And you was like, you know how your mom said that people like us don't go to Paris. People like us. And now you live there and live dead. You've been there a couple times.
You're saying that, but that's the mentality where people even say people like us don't fly first class. People like us don't live in this type of house. And you got to what's the shift that makes you say, no, people like us do. And if people like us haven't done it historically, then I'm going to be the first to make people like us. It's not to cut nobody, but I think mall, and you just, I just want to see, really slow it down. That is 100% step one. Start thinking that I am that way.
You know what? And some of it has to be, and this may not sound like a consolation prize, but I'm saying, if you start at 40 something, 50 something, developing that mentality and at least being able to pass it to you, kids to be able to have going into that next generation. But the age really matter. The age really matter. I hear it is I'm sitting up and a man coming with sitting there talking, and we just talking about even speakers.
And I was looking and I was like, man, when we said London, I said, man, I said, remember saying that picture you and Jeremy, Jeremy was probably by like a 12, 13 years old. Man, Jeremy been speaking for a long time. He, he been speaking ever since he was always homeless. I'm looking at you. You talking about you speaking to the mayor and doing this. I didn't start speaking. I was 40 years old. Doesn't matter. I never had a person come up to me.
I got off the stage and said, man, what took you so long? Yeah. Everybody just come off and say, man, bro, you. That was a blessing. It's so it does it. Age don't matter. Yeah. It's all about, bro, you matter. And it's about you coming up with what you want. You said, I'm not going to share. And y'all probably heard this before, but when, when to me she was pregnant with Jordan. I'm just really stuck on the mindset mall. We were living in Canal Club apartment over there.
And bro, from mall, you talk about vision, like I did not have a reason. I just said, I don't want my kid born in an apartment. I just said that. Bro, when I tell you like I had no plan, no strategy, I was just like, yeah, the apartment is cool. Being to me, she loved the little two bar room joint, low pond over there. We got some ducts flying by it. Bro, it was beautiful for us. I was like, I just, something about me. I just don't want my son born in an apartment.
And this department that I want people to hear what I'm saying, mall, nothing changed in my income. Nothing changed. I'm trying to say immediately. Here's what I'm saying. Somebody came to me with in to me. She was maybe, she had been like seven, eight months pregnant. We're still in the apartment. I don't have a plan. Yeah. Somebody came to me and says, hey, we have a house that is available. You can rent it out for the same amount of money that you're paying and rent right now for this.
I'm just talking about manifestation and vision. Like I'm going all the way back. Nothing changed. So just to say just the fact that you start thinking differently, you open the atmosphere for things to happen differently. Not definitely not happening differently to happen as you see it. Can we do something about this? Yeah, because it's the last quarter, bro. When you brought up about the cost of you and the future cost, I think people are going to pass by that.
And they don't understand that that's really down one. When I had people right out the current cost of you, that's just for awareness. But then I had them right out the future cost. Future cost. And the reason why I had them right out the future cost, because all I was trying to give people to do is write the vision and make it work. You literally, bro, can create it and write it down. No, you will create it. The last quarter, you will create it.
Everybody that's watching this, just take the time out. And I mean, this is so pivotal. Take the time out and write down what you want your life to look like. Like it ain't right at those, but see it. And I think, because I got two groups of people, you got the one group that just write it out. And it's like a game for them. It's like, we playing a game. No, like literally if you had God right here right now saying, son, daughter, tell me what you want. Write it down.
You remember when you were going to do it right now? Yeah, I remember when you came and you wrote down your Christmas list? Yeah. Write this out. Write your Christmas list right now. Write your vision list. Write out what you want your life. Don't worry about how much it costs. Don't worry about where you're going to get the money from. Don't worry about, I can't afford, I'm in debt. I'm behind, I'm a, what up? Don't worry about it.
Yeah. Right now, every single thing how you want, you and your spouse and your children's life to look like, and pretend like you're giving that list to God. Yeah. Because real talk, you really are. You are. You believe when you was a kid and some of y'all out here don't want to write the list out because you don't believe it's going to have you don't believe God going to get you at, but you believe Santa Claus was going to get you head. That G.I. Joe with the kickstand.
You know what I'm saying? You don't believe that and then Christmas morning, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm taking it further. Don't take it to kids, take it to adults. You played a lottery. You believe that you could hit the lottery. You put on a lottery. You play on the plane. No, I'm sorry. You want to play in flying with somebody you don't know. You believe. You believe it's so why my cousin Bob hit the stroke, right? Can't remember nobody's name. It's y'all got to be careful, man.
He can't remember nobody name. Yeah. He can't remember his address. He can't even remember his name sometimes. Well, for some reason, every time I stop by the gas station, he can remember that he needs to get out the con by scratch. No, man, man, man, scratch. Man, that's right. I got three things. I'm not breaking. I'm not breaking. That's right. He's literally that you did it so much that he going right back to just scratch on something. I mean, my man, but I'm saying, but you said it.
You believe in that more than you believe in you said it. I think you put up the post and I saw it and I was like, that's true. That boy, he was like, you saying you ain't got no faith or you were hit about your faith, but you hopped on a plane. You don't know my man. You don't know if he having a bad day. You don't know if they check the engine like that.
I was looking at the other dials like, you know, he's coming back from Paris and I was like, though, we are 40,000 feet in the air over the dead little ocean. 100 miles an hour. Watch him move in the middle of the sink can. It's nothing. It's nothing positive that I'm from that. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I mean, it's right on there. Don't laugh and watch him move. Like, ain't we don't know. We're up front. No, bro, we just had a plane other day.
We just had a plane that was on the way to Turkey from Seattle. The pilot died midway flight in flight, bro. They didn't got rid of my man. That's why I couldn't. And that's what bugged me out about helicopters. I mean, I can't just take a helicopter. I ain't been back on since. Yeah. Because I was like, yeah. Like my man, how is your health? Yeah. It's only one. It was just one. It was just one. It was just one. It was just one. And he was like, yeah.
If bro have a little, I can't do number four. I promise. No, I'm in the helicopter. And if bro, I can't do number four. I promise. I'm in the plane. I can put it down in four or five on the plane. I see a couple of movies, but on the helicopter, I'm like, that looked like you really got to drive it. You do. You're still saying, but to your point, you do have faith. You do believe that things are going to be okay, but you don't believe it for your own life.
And you put more energy in the others and what could possibly happen through luck or through somebody else or somebody else. Somebody else. Yeah, no, and that's the part that's crazy. Oh, bro. No, no, no, no, no. Opposite, I want to say this for you. I'm an opposite. I don't believe it. I don't believe nobody's gonna do nothing for me. No, no, that's what I'm just saying.
I don't even wanna help people who have that mentality because probably more people have the mentality of, I'm gonna let you be a blessing in my life that I'm gonna be to it. So if you're gonna do that cool, but like do it right, don't do it where, how do I say it? Don't do it where you're not a participant in it.
Like you just hoping that people used to say that one of the difficult things about playing with Michael Jordan is that they was watching Michael Jordan while they was playing with Michael Jordan. They would be watching it. Like so Michael, I'm there kidding. Imagine you on my squad, you like third, you the three of the four, and while I'm shaking and baking and ducking, you sitting there watching me shaking and baking ducking. Hey, you not even, you not even helping me.
Like you literally, they said there would be players on both sides that was like amazed at Mike and they sitting there in the game, but they watch him mic do his thing in the game instead of playing in the game. So I won't give you three things. Number one, tomorrow's point, A should matter, but it does. So if you 40, 50, 60, however you are, go online and put in 60 year old, the dim blow up until they were 60 years old. KFC, 50 year old. I can't figure it out for the, 40 not, but 50.
Don't lose your tongue. I was a side note. I said man, it's crazy. I just realized I'm somewhere between C.J. and Mr. Quinney. It kind of sucks too. Cause I'll look, let me take some. Carl, hold on, you got to film me on this. Don't lose your point. I'm going to want some. I got my point. I'm good. But I was like somewhere and somebody was like Mr. Quinney and I was like, oh, it'll call me now. That's crazy. But then it was like a 17 year old was like, Hey, C.J. I was like, oh, you're a man.
I looked so much dim on your chip. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying, yeah, yeah. You don't know where you want to be. I'm nervous. You don't know where you want to be. Yeah. I was like, oh, no. I was like, but then I had, you know, fair or five. I had to check my own stuff. Like, okay, you can't have a book way. I think it's dependent on the A. Yeah, you can't have a book way. Did you like 25? Yeah, you can't. No, no. I think I could be. You can't have a book way. Maybe 30. 30, you know.
No, you can't have a book way. No, 25. You just got to be Mr. Quinney now. You know, 25. Yeah, I'm cool. Yeah. But I'm maybe Mr. C.J. Yeah, that's C.J. Yeah, that's the high bird. Yeah. Yeah. I want you to focus on here right now. Don't you worry about when you get home. You make it. You concentrate on this opportunity. You don't worry about tomorrow. You concentrate on this opportunity with all your might. With all your soul. With all your heart.
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