The Season with Peter Schrager: Michael Vick

The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to the Season with Peter Schreger. I am Peter Schreger. You might see me on Good Morning Football in the mornings. You might see me on Fox NFL Kickoff on Sundays. If my voice is a little hoarse, it's because it's been a wild few days. Sunday we were we did the Fox NFL Kickoff Show. We had the best episode of the season. It's myself, it's Julian Edelman, Michael Vick,

He fumbled.

They didn't give him the ball again. So now it's Kareem Hunt, samaj p Ryan to aging veteran running backs. It's a rookie Xavier Worthy who had three catches and the big touchdown, and that's great, but I don't know if he's gonna get the load. It's gonna be an aging Travis Kelce. It's Noah great it's justin Watson, it's Skymore, who you could tell the team is just is just beyond frustrated with and it's like, all right, Chiefs, four weeks into this season, how are we gonna win games?

The offense was like all right.

We just had to run the ball with David Montgomery down the stretch, and we'll just lean on that. That's not the Ben Johnson offense. It's usually so innovative and different. Week two, bad loss, Week three they squeeze by Arizona and the offenses. And then week four, October's here. We know that's the offense. But we saw on Week four against the Seahawks that's the offense. October is where we're gonna find out a lot about that teams. And I look at the New York Jets and they might be

It's too soon.

October key month, really key month. If the Jets start losing games, This could be real bad. They need to find a way to get a couple of these wins. Coming up, we have an awesome guest today and it's a perfect time to have this guest. This guest just I don't know if it's the exclusive breaking news. This guest just got back from Washington, DC because he sat down with a guy who he's being compared to, and

Michael, Hello, Well, so Peter, I can wait to come on the pod man.

I've been waiting out get on the pod. I want to start in Washington, d C. And I want to start with current events because anytime there's a young athletic African American quarterback, they immediately are compared to Michael Vick. And I always say, time out, time out, that Michael Vick was was one of one when he came into this league. And there are very few guys who could run and pass like Michael Vick. Jaden Daniels might be

Yeah, it's funny because as soon as you start talking about Jay and I start thinking about his days at Arizona State and his time with herm Edwards, and I think he spent three years there. And so you know, we come out to California. You know, we catch the late game. So I was always catching the Earth, I'm always catching Arizona UCLA and so I was watching this kid. I'm like, you know, I'm looking at the statue like

Was kind of like an up and down year, and I knew he had another year left.

And nowadays, you never know how many years kids got, Like in college, you know, some guys be six years guys and five years and that wasn't the case back and I date, so, you know, I see him at LSU and I'm like, oh, the first year, I knew he needed some work.

Last year, I was like, something must have clipped and he ended.

Up winning the hazard And you know this, you know, a long story short that you know, now we get Jane Dames in.

The National Football League. So through four games.

Pete, I mean, he's just getting better and better and better each and every week.

The crazy part is the completion percentage. He cleared ninety percent of his passes two weeks ago eighty two percent of his passes this week. A lot of that is, of course the offense, but a lot of that is on him as just a pure passer. That that has blown me away as someone who was you know, thrown into the NFL. Is the fact that he's so accurate? Is that blowing you away?

Also, Yeah, it's blowing me away because I watched him in college and so, like I said, the first year.

I just knew he needed a little work and needed time to get better.

And then the next year he was making more plays in the pocket and he was more accomplishing more in the passing game. As far as understanding the concepts, I think getting to the right places with the ball, and I don't know what type of offense they was running with.

It was enough to win.

That hasn't Then fast forward and now he links up with Cliff Kingsbury, your guy who you always praise and said that you know, he, you know, was one of the best in the business. And he's proven that, you know what I'm say. He's proven that with Kyler, he's proven that with jayalen Jada, and for him to come out smoking and to be as efficient as he is, that's that's the coach understanding the player and vice versas.

All right, so we work at Fox every weekend and you get thirty two teams. No one, I mean, we thought the Commanders could have a nice little bomum. No one expected them to the story of the first month of the season. You get a call from our producer saying, hey, this is the story of the twenty twenty four campaign. This is the Jaden Daniels here, Michael Vicky want you to sit down with Jaden Daniels. That's gonna air on Fox.

Yeah, it was really cool to be back home for one. You know, anytime I fly back into pertain you to always bring back memories too. I always wanted to play for Washington, so you know, being a guy who grew up for my grandmother grew.

Up a Washington fan. I watched them a lot.

Didn't like him as a kid, but you know, I wanted to finish my career in so you know, it was I didn't get a chance to do that, so it was a little bittersweet. But having a chance to actually go and see any any team's facility, I'm always intrigued by that.

When I got there, you know, just had to soak it all in, look around, you.

Know, complex is really it was nice to doing a lot of renovations and and uh, we're trying to you know, make it, you know, a little more efficient than what has been over the years. And so when I first walk in and I see phrase move and Uh saying Tana Monks.

I think working, I think working for the team. I didn't know that.

Yeah, they're working in the mediate department.

They got their own podcasts, and they you know, just around just around the facility, just hanging out, just being being, you know, legends, the legends that they are. Then I see Doug Wis, Then I see Cliff, then I see Dan Quinn. You know, they all coming, you know, introduce themselves and they're saying hi. And then then I ultimately I get the team and uh had a chance to just hang out with him for a second before we did an interview. They were just talking about, you know,

Man.

The one thing I can say Peter is that he really believes in himself. He believes and what he can.

Do the past first, mentality run second.

And I'm pretty sure that the guys around him, you know, as far as the receivers appreciate that.

Yeah.

And I think DJ Moore and Keenan Allen and Realm Dunes they are lining up for the Chicago Bears and Kayleb Williams. When you get to Washington, as Jayden Daniels, you're looking around. Mclaurin's great, but it's not guys who are going to the Hall of Fame or winning All pros or anything. A lot of that's on his shoulders, and yet it doesn't seem to affect him. These guys,

Yeah, that's when you know the quarterback gets it and understands it. And then I go back to my first couple of years in Atlanta, man, when I had Sean Jefferson and I had Brian Finneran and Algie Trump. I mean, these wasn't superstar receivers. Or Sean was in his trunk season and you know Brin was, you know, six ' five and ran a four four six inspector Brian Finnering, great player, he know, he one of my favorites all time. He know that, so he'll know. But you know, it

When when these young quarterbacks come in, I said this started African Americans wor there could be an a young quarterback when they come in, we get four or five every year. It's fine. In the last decade or so, you've been doing the media stuff you've been out of football.

And they all reach out when they need to. You know what I'm saying.

They all reach out, you know, whether whether it's Kylo, whether there's CJ. You know those they all reach out. You know what I'm saying. They all reach out for advice if they needed. Most of the time, they have people in the corner man who really appreciate you know, you know, the the try hard, They appreciate them. You know what I'm saying, want to you know, be the best that they can be. And you know, my door

He might need some work, you know what I'm saying.

They all just so open and they all want the knowledge, and they also appreciative that we all try to reach out to him and make him better.

Did you give your number to Jade and Daniels?

Yeah, I gave my number to Jay and the quarterback I got to talk to the most lately over the last couple of weeks, two or three times. But our long conversations just trying to get on the same page. And most of the time we had these conversations, it might be a little frustration, but Shador, Shador saying, go on, there's some good conversations. Shador coming into the season and she doors are thinking, he's very smart, you know, a very unique way of thinking that and he understands the.

Quarterback position.

So so confident in hisself that you know, he might get put hisself in the he might overthink things, you know, for the bet, and so you know, there's more conversations about you know, trusting himself, trusting his coach, you know, playing within the system.

And he's looking really good right now. Man. I text him, you know, last week because I try not to be on the line and trying to you know, hit them.

When I see the product, when I see the progress, I know why they have the problem. It's not because of me. It's because you know, they listening to the people around. They might have took maybe one or two tibbits and the things. And I said, but you know, when I got to when I have to talk to him and tell him what's really happening, I do, and hopefully should door appreciate that.

Man, he's playing some good football right there. Yeah.

We had Daniel Jeremiah, who's the NFL Networks draft guy on last week. He said, I know it's early and season, give us a taste. Who who the guys. And he's like, Travis Hunter and Shador might both go top picks, Like that's how good both of those are.

They might go back to back.

They might go one too, dude, they might they might they won't playing together.

I was about to say that they won't be on the team. But at least, you know, those guys are enjoying college football right now. It look like they have fun. It was a moment where it seemed a little stressful for the Colorado teams as a whole. But man, when you got smart people in the building and people get it, I understand, you usually get it, right, do you.

I know Warren sapp is now with dionn and I know you've done like the Spring League, and you've done some other things as far as like coaching goes in a voluntary role. Do you ever think about a full time coaching job? Did that ever come across your your your table and something that you would think about doing?

You know, it's it's always it's always a thought, man, because I have so many camps and be around so many kids and seven or seven tournaments that i'd be doing, and you know, so it's always a thought that I would love to be with this kid every day to help them out and watch and progress and you know, help them grow, you know, through the good in the bad.

So it's always a thought.

But then then I think about, man, the opportunity that we got the seats that we have.

Man, I like, yeah, I like what I do now too. Man. So you know, I've I've always been torn in between coaching.

Full time and you know and other you know what I'm saying, other, you know, opportunities that that might come my way and that I've had a couple.

But I just I can't. I can't. I can't do it, man, I know I know what that entails. And when you dive into coaching when you haven't, you got to go, man, you got to.

I don't necessarily after playing a lot of years in the league. Man, I don't want to leave my family the way you know I had to when I played the sacrifice. You know, you know, maybe when i'm you know, years lay down the road. Man, who knows what can happened?

Absolutely?

All right?

So this movie comes out last week on Amazon. It's the number one movie on Amazon. I don't know all the algorithms. I don't know what that even means. I just know that a lot of people are watching it, and your name is attached to it. And I remember, Michael, I think it was three years ago you and I were talking about this project. And now it comes to fruition. It's called the Evolution of the Black Quarterback. It hits

On this thing. Yeah, that's accurate.

The one thing that I've been telling everybody, And you know, we discussed it last week and we you know, y'all congratulated me on and I appreciate y'all so much, man for acknowledging the work.

And we all work hard in our own right, man.

We you know, we worked for Foxes, you know, full time, you know, saying the good GMF is is full time, and you know, we got to put a lot into it. But we also try to dabble into things that we also think could be efficient or useful or purposeful and

Uh.

The origin of it was people. You always come to me and say, Mike, you changed the game, you revolutionized the position.

Man.

It was you wouldn't see dam you wouldn't see Kyler, you wouldn't see such such if it wasn't for you. And I'd be like, well, have you ever seen Donovan Man play? Have you ever seen Steve McNair, Chylie Wooden? This generation that was always Noah, you no, yeah, But I'm like, no, man, hell let's let's let's be by with history a little bit.

You know. My favorite player was Steve Young growing.

Up, and you know, I had like I had to look at somebody who who played like me.

You know, obviously him being left handed, it really helped him being a runner.

I was so intrigued by that. And then I had cut of hand mooning different styles. I was like, man, you know what, Man, I want to talk about this man, but I'm but you know what, I'm gonna take it back because I felt like the NFL has grown so much over the years. Man, I feel like an I institute and you know, the opportunities that we get man allow us to do so much man and grow as people.

And I'm like, man, every every organization entity.

Was like guys, man, we you know, the world will be a better place because we were constantly growing.

So I wanted to show that part.

I wanted to show the greatness of the quarterbacks that came before me and I couldn't take credit for it was really changing the game of revolutionary.

I love this because it's your opportunity to say, yeah, I know I was at that time, and when you grew up, maybe was, and I knew I broke through with commercials and with video games and Madden. It all was a perfect storm. But you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have to we have to show respect to Charlie Ward first, because Charlie Ward went into Notre Dame and beat Notre Dame and I'm sorry he lost to Notre Dame, but it was one of the best games ever.

Like you, you.

Was like, this is my this is my burden, this is my responsibility to now instead of just accepting the praise. Let me give back and kind of show give this back to the game and give those guys their flowers.

Yeah, and what I've been telling everybody, what I said at the premiere, was that in twenty twenty four, Doug Williams, Charlie Wood, Shaq Harris, you know, all these guys are first round picks, you know what I'm saying. So that shows the avenues, that shows the change in the progress. I'm like, all these guys you just watched, they had to go to Canada, had to do that. That's not today's game, that's not today's time. We don't live in that world anymore. So I was just excited to highlight

I mean, you look at in the fact that Warren Moon had to go to Canada, despite breaking all those records in college and being had to go to Canada first and win Great Cups and have a whole career in Canada, before he could even start his Houston Oilers career. You look at Charlie Ward. I know he wanted to be a basketball player, but the fact that he wasn't a first round pick anyway in the NBA, it is kind of my boggling because both of those players different styles.

Right, And I'm growing up boxing these guys because I'm playing quarterback and I'm feeling like them, just like stuck between the rock and the hotspot as a you know, thirteen fourteen.

Year old kid.

I'm like, man, i gotta change my position because if I continue to play quarterback, I'm not gonna be drafted. It's gonna be a waste of years and I'm gonna be sad. Man, I don't know what I'm gonna do. What I did know that I wanted to make it in criminology. You know, I wanted to be in the FBI, so I had a backup plan. But you know it was man my coaches over the years who was mentors who pushed me to continue, you know, just play quarterback.

I just I want, I just want to shot.

And then and then the nineteen ninety nine draft happened when when Andy to Donovan number two, and I was like, man, and then you know, and then that whole draft for Kelly Smith, Codante Cole Pep, I was like, hold on, man, I think the league changing. Man, I think it's been a little paradigm shift. So I was so excited so much to me, and I always talked to Amy about that

Man, that's what I want.

Who were the actual quarterbacks that you physically sat down with for this project. I know there was a couple, obviously, I know that a lot of people participated, But who did you travel to go sit down with.

I traveled to see Dak, I traveled to see Russell, I traveled to see Warren.

I traveled to see Doug. I traveled to see Charlie Shack. Who else? Man? I traveled to see Colin Kaepernick.

Kapp was graceful, graceful enough to you know, blesseds with his presence, and that was really cool.

Man. I know, missing on a lot of guys, man, But yeah, I travel to see everybody.

I travel to see all those guys and sitting down with him and and uh, it's it's to a point now where the storys are so intriguing. And now I got a lot of young quarterbacks called him like, man, when you go do a part two? So yeah, we're gonna do a part two. But it probably consists more of, you know, the teaching of the game. I want to you know, break down film with those guys, you know what I'm saying, Probably the younger generation see how much

I know other quarterbacks that are in the documentary. Patrick Mahomes makes an appearance. Jalen hurts, Oh yeah, how did I forget these?

I tried.

I traveled to see Patrick, travel to see cam and travel to see Jay.

Man. I want I just wanted it to be a moment. Man.

I look forward to more of those moments because sit down with Jaden yesterday was it brought me back and it was just really cool. And I wish I could. I wish I could sit down with every quarterback in the need. I wish I could sit down with j Justin Herbert.

I wish I could.

But you know what, it's all based on playing, you know, you know, but uh, you know, I will, I will circle the wagon to get through those guys, man, just because now for me, it's more and so about the football journey.

How they all became quarterbacks. So I be sort intriguing their stories. It's really cool.

If one common bond between you and Mahomes is Andy Reid. We see Andy Reid, big jovial, loving guy that you know obviously is now a super Bowl champion three times over.

The whole deal.

They've won and everything's great, and he's going for this three feet the man Andy Reid and what he's meant to so many of you. I know when you were in your darkest hour, Andy Reid was there. Tell tell the listeners just what Andy Reid means to you as a as a player but also as a human being.

Yeah, Andy meant a lot to me. I start with Andy.

The how what he meant to me as a player first, because I think it's the more profound effect to what he meant to me as a man.

As a player. He just made me better.

He just the knowledge that I've attained before him, he just enhanced it. I listened to everything that he ever said in terms of football, try to and try to do it to the best of my ability. I knew what I had learned before him. You know, I could only get better and I will say this. I was always and I told Donald this, I was always jealous of Donovan because he had Andy and he they was

And he didn't have Toyo.

I just knew he was a good football coach from from the time I was young, and you know, obviously never being able to beat him in the Grovisional Round or the NFC Championship, and you know, it was always fun and competitive.

But you know, once I got to me, he made men better quarterback.

And then Andy the man was even even better because he was the only coach. I not the only coach, but as I'm mature, he was the coach. I used to go sit in his office and talk. They called me up just to have a conversation, and you know, I put myself in his seat. If I was a coach,

Other area in life.

And you know, the moments that we probably would laugh about now and cool stories. But I never forget man the type of man. He is a great sense of human he has. One time, my wife, who was he was going through some tough times, you know, with her family, and and uh, you know, I was just exhausted, man, and you know, trying to try to play football and trying to be the best person that I could be as far as you know, the supporter.

You know, my wife is going through some difficult times losing family lost and family member, and I remember I just I broke down crying. I had no I had nothing left, you know what I'm saying. I got trying to be strong for her. I broke down crying and laying on the couch and I'm just nobody to talk to.

You know, one of my doctor's moments because she she's in a dark place and that's nothing I could do to help her. And my phone bring is Andy, and Andy, you know, I pick up.

You know, I.

Started crying even worse because now I really need somebody to talk to. But I can't really talk. I can't get the words out.

Peter.

By the time we got off that phone, Man, this man had me laughing so hard. Man Like he just I needed him so much in that moment. Man, he and it's just the type of person he is. He made me feel so much better about my about life and just what I believed in. And we went through some tough times together as well. And so and that's the moment I never forget, man, because uh you know, it shows this chartter it's true character. And so it don't surprise me they having the success that they have.

Damn. I wish he could have got won in Philly.

Not I agree, even if with me, if.

It was just one you know what I'm saying, just for the fan base, But but Philly ended up getting there, so it was just all good.

They got it.

Uh well, rap, sure they just want to go through some rapid fire questions about the memories of being Michael Vick in that moment and in those times of Atlanta early two thousands, Ludacris is coming out, Outcast is coming out, Ussher is on the scene, It's it's Jermaine Dupriez everything, and then there here comes this Michael Vick in the Atlanta Falcons. And I was in college at the time.

Yeah, Peters, it's so hard to go back to Atlanta now, man, because I love that city so much because of not just football, but those moments, man, when when I first got there and meeting everybody, get introduced to Ludaprius and getting introduced to two chains, when they getting introduced to TI and getting introduced to man, all these these people who mean so much to the culture, who mean so much to entertainment and their profession. Them accepting me one,

Hey, man, how things go on?

Football may may make sure you're getting your rest, man, make sure you stay healthy.

Make sure they cared about me genuinely, you know what I'm saying. They wanted me to. They knew. Look and entertainment world is one thing, but man, you need to be getting rest.

You need to be putting off of us on Sunday, on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays and Jesus come along, man. And it's just the games was amazing. The games was like like playing a football game in front of the club, outside of the club, man, you know what I'm saying.

Like it's that, it's like it's electric, we having fun, it's music.

And man, it was a lot of pressure too, because I mean, when you got all your boys in there.

You can't.

You can't slack, man, You got it. You gotta be on your A games. So just amazing moments in time, man. And that's why I said it's hard to go back to Atlanta, because I relived those moments.

It was so much. It's just it's tough, but I still love to go back.

You had this great rivalry with your cousin Aaron Brooks, who was with the Saints, and I remember I would go to all those Falcons games. I would, you know, pay for tickets. I'd go with all my friends from college. We would go to like probably six or eight Falcons home games a year when you were there. We loved watching you. And then one time I'm sitting in the fraternity house and I get a message on my phone and it's a recorded message from Michael Vick and.

You probably didn't know.

It's Hey, I'm playing my cousin Aaron Brooks this weekend and the Saints are coming to town and we need you in the building, please please, And I was like, this is the rivalry. And it wasn't treated the same as Cowboys Eagles on the national scale, or even forty nine Ers cowboys on the national scale. But my gosh, those those Aaron Brooks Michael Vick here is probably a little window in time, probably two three years.

Like that was real three years.

And I really didn't know what that raval meant at the time, because you know it was enhanced because of my cousin being on the other side and you know, a little cousin want to be big cousin, and that that part of it was always always came into play.

And it was just good games.

I remember some of the best crowd and the loudest, the Georgia jhomers up was was ever you know, I guess Mark was in those times like a Sparts decib me to like I'm talking about rowdy, rowdy, you know.

And and so those fans they didn't like me, man, they didn't like me.

The one time I got in trouble when I when it wasn't no social media and I tried my biggest mistakes and off fan was was not a Falcons fan. It was Saturday say it was the Saints man, but that's how rowdy was. That was the rivalry man and they beat us. But that was post that was post Aaron. That was the start of the Drew Brees ear and so he I knew when Drew came man, I was like, yeah, in trouble, you know what I'm saying.

Aaron was tough to deal with.

But Drew and Sean came in at the same time, and it was like, Yo, nah, they can't take this robbery from They can't.

They can't take this over.

So but man, good moments. Man, good moments is sports and certain games. I never forget for sure.

All Right.

Two amazing commercials that are forever in my head, the Michael Vick experience. When you're on the roller coaster. Do you remember getting pitched that whole project and take us through the formation of that commercial, what brand it was for, and then when you actually filmed it and then saw it actually come to life. It was probably the most popular commercial of the two thousands.

Yeah, it was. It was a Nike commercial.

And I never forget to you. I was like, man, I need something more urban in this, Like what this is a commercial for kids? And hid it's like thinking about it now, Yes, that's what you was trying to do. You was trying to appeal to the kids and the next generation. You're trying to give them the Michael Vick experience. That's what it was all about, Like what are you missing? And so like back then, I was just always in my own head, always wanted things to be my way, and.

It goes.

It goes to show that the people around me probably the best, because that commercials stood and test the time, is still one of the top commercials in football to this day, and I appreciate it more now than.

I did back then.

So shut out the Nike for making that, you know, one of the top commercials in that era and believing in me, you know what I'm saying that to put it out there.

So I didn't like it. But man, when you were.

Filming that, they take it to like Stone Mountain Local six Flags, and you're like, you know, actually getting in Like what was the process of like actually filming that commercial.

So I think we filmed that out in the Word now by Nike's campus, Yeah, on the Nike campus, And I remember Phil Knight was there, Bill Keller was there, And for some reason when I used to see Phil man, I used to feel like I just said, but I created Nike, you know, perk U blow yeah, man, because I always wanted to make a proud you always wanted to I appreciate it the Nike so much, and then I'm giving me a whole line of the shoes like

When you saw I'm as sending you watch that Matt Damon ben Affleck movie air, like did you see yourself in them Michael Jordan's shoes where he was kind of the same deal where they're going to build a line around me.

Yeah.

So when I first started my shoe line, it was like, Okay, brings some shoes in and you want to pattern your shoe after and I.

Pulled out like six pairs of Jordan's. They was like, oh, yeah, this is what you want to do. So, you know, Shout out of the East got more was my shoe priod at the time.

He was over Nike, and he uh like he took those shoes, man, and he he took six shoes and he drew like three hundred pitches like he would come up with like three hundred sketches and we'll break him down three hundred, two hundred, two hundred to one hundred hundreds. The shoe process and making a shoe was so fun, man, so intriguing. P I I fell in love with that line more than anything that was that I was doing. I think that was one of my biggest downfalls because you know, did.

You get upset with the shoe culture, like that's what you were?

Yeah, I wassessed with the shoe culture and obsessed with just having my own sicknasure line. It's like what athlete has its own shoe lining?

You know.

So even then, as privileged as I was, man like, I felt like I should have, you know, appreciated that a little bit more and that you know, sometimes you have things that come to you and things that you are given opportunities where you got to say, I got to, you know, one, be on my best behavior too. I got to think myself through a lot of situations because you know, I'm wonder this, this puts.

Me up under the public eye and it's a pedestal.

Yeah, and there's a lot of responsibility that comes along with having all of this, you know, and so you know, it's hindsight now, but you know, my attitude of my thinking was at twenty four was the way it was at thirty four and out of the church and things a lot more. And so you know, it's something I can preach to the Shadors and the James and the guys who are coming into the league who are going

Know how to hold on to my last question, I'll never forge get Monday Night football. Chip Kelly's now the new coach of the Eagles, and Robert Griffin is the hottest name in sports. He comes out, he is carrying a flag running out of the thing, and you guys came in there and just absolutely destroyed them. You Sean Jackson, Chip had the game plan laid out, take us through that week one Monday night game Eagles versus Redskins, and.

Peter you always bring out the coolest moments. Many Let me let me look. I g three, my boy. I'm on the doorst part in a couple in a couple of weeks and Igie three, he the home.

Well, I gotta tell you this story too, and me and me and Agi talked about this because I took it the wrong way.

So four before that, I was I finished the season, I was hurt on.

And just a long story long, I'm on injury reserve, and the Ramskins came in and would watch Commanders.

They came in and beat us. They knocked us all beat as good.

After the game, as he came to me and he was like, man, I wish he was out there today.

And I was like, yeah, man, me too.

But I kind of took it as you know, as a competitor, you always and also he respects I look at it, yeah, some type. But he was like, I wish he was out there. And later on that night, I'm like, what do you mean about that? He wished I was out there? I mean he wanted to go toe to toe with me, and you know, quarterback and quarterback. I'm like, you know what next year, you know, I have my shot. We get they scheduled Washington first. I'm like, okay, Ge said he wanted you know, he wish I was

And this what he wanted.

He wanted to be a twelve year veteran. I'm a little older. He young, and he doing this thing and I'm like, okay, and I just show up and show out. So you know, Chip, we we was running that new offense. It was fast paced, it was it was a great system.

I think.

Uh.

I remember Lendon Fletcher coming to me before the game and saying, man, it's unfortunate that we got to play our first and we got to run into this offense first.

Right then and there. I knew he was gonna be It was done right.

When the best linebackers like it's unfortunate, we don't feel it's actually prepared for this.

I'm like, he's scared. He got feel already. You know.

We just got to go fast and then came off the flag and stuck it in the ground boom. I said, oh man, it's gonna be a long night. We gotta start fast. And I just never forget the play calling was amazing. I thought Chip was amazing. I knew I was getting old because I had a scene in that game where I broke one and I had to see him too wide open and they caught me, you.

Know, time catching you a movement, not the same. It was a very competitive game.

I had a chance to speak to after the game and we you know, we we had it, you know, a nice little moment. And then I mentioned it to Ig a couple of weeks, a couple of months ago, like, Bro, I remember you said that.

He was like, nah, Bro, I ain't mean it like that, just that one.

Just face you as an election, you know what I'm saying, Like, oh, man, I cite myself up to So it's good.

It's one.

When I think of that game, I think of that man. But certainly fun to play against, you know, Washington at the time. You know, long story, long story long. My grandmother was a Commander's fan. I always told myself I would never lose to Washington in my professional career because my grandmother was a command was a Commanders fan, and I never lost to him. Did you never lose to them? I never lost to them. I probably lost to everybody else, but I never lost them. So that was kind of

That's the local game. That's what you got. You got you got the you got Washington weekend and week out. So I grew up watching Jay Straight and all those guys, so.

Gary Clark and Ricky Sandys.

The Posse.

Uh, I mean it was too good. They was too good. So yeah, that's my you know, my football moment. But Tip Kelly was amazing. I really got a lot of respect and chipping what he's done for the game of football. How you helped me to learn learn more more offense?

Cool? All right, we're gonna wrap here. This is amazing. The Jaden Daniels interview I assume airs this weekend on Fox NFL Sunday.

Yep, you, sir, Joe Santos. I want to say who was Joe was on the ground. Joe was amazing, man. I'll tell you what the prep me and Joel did, Like, Joe prepped me to a point where I could just go in there and just ask the question.

So he was amazing with it. That was fun working with.

The producer for all those great features you see on Fox, Mike, I love you, man, You're great. You're so cruel and I appreciate you taking them time. You're a busy guy. Let's get some dinner this weekend.

What do you say? Let's do it Saturday night.

Saturday night, We're gonna go out. We're gonna go out hard. Let everyone knows, all right, Michael Vick. I'm gonna bring in my producer and friend, mister Aaron Wong Kaufman. I think Michael Vick is an incredible, incredible American story when you talk about the highs, the lows, and then getting back into the NFL and making the most of the opportunity.

It all, you know.

Yeah, very introspective. And I also loved how much he how like he gave his flowers to those that came before him a lot. Like I loved him talking about, Oh, I love his backup plan with criminology. He's like I was gonna be in the FBI, Like I just had this other thing I could do, but him talking about like I was worried I would have to change my

It's pretty cool. I mean, it's a really good take on it. And like I know that this movie comes out and I don't know if you've seen it or not. It's on Amazon, not it whatever the thing, it's number one.

It's great.

I don't know what that means as far as you know, for his wallet or for his production career or anything like this. But I remember Michael Vick three years ago tell me he's like, I'm getting on a plane to go sit down with you know, Cam Newton. And I was like, okay, for what it's like this project I'm working on, and like how many athletes have like projects

It's pretty cool. Yeah.

Yeah, I have not watched yet, but I'm excited too. It was one of those things that like coming out in the midst of the football season that's like, no, I'm going to like pull off some time when I can you know, set aside like an hour get into this now. But yeah, I mean it looks great, and he was, Yeah, I really enjoyed hearing him. He was great, great, and he's such a pleasure to work with.

On Sundays, like it's funny you have Dan Orlowski like breaking down film of like here's x's and o's, and then over on you know CBS, like Matt Ryan is doing his thing as the next quarterback. Mike comes in and he's just like he sees things that we don't see. So he's talking about Jayden Daniels last week and he's like, I love the way how he talks to his teammates on the sideline and like that's what you're watching. He's like, Oh,

And yet you also you hear him talk. He even said in the interview like what he what he what the game meant to him? And then he said, and what the locker room meant to me?

And what that brotherhood meant me.

So it makes sense that he would be the one who's like, oh, I see Kyler going off, and then he goes and he's talking to Marvin on the sideline and he's like getting him hyped up, and yeah, it was great observation and he just yeah, sounds like he looks at it a really interesting way.

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Big Minnesota talk last night. We're not going to do politics here, but a lot of a lot of references to Minneapolis and Minnesota and that vice presidential debate. And I'm thinking about the skull Vikings, whether this is the year they break through. We'll see. My mind is in football till next week. We'll have another product coming shortly. We enjoyed a conversation we have with someone else. We're