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Eric, how are you while I work with a four times best selling New York Times author? So I'm great. I'm really excited to be here. It's actually our eighth time, I think, filling in for Sewn, otherwise known as the O Show. And I guess they figured if you can dodge a Rents, you can host the national radio show. So here we are and excited to be doing this. It's a weird day. It's a lot of hard stories in the news and a lot of hypocrisy in terms of the way people are talking about that, and so
that's one I think. I think we're excited to get into you and talk about like, let's just be honest and tell the country the truth about some of the tough things we're dealing with.
Yeah, no, you're exactly right. We're We're going to talk on several important topics today. We're gonna talk about the tragedy, of course in Minneapolis and dig deep as to what's actually going on there, what does it mean, how is it being politicized. We're going to talk about justice, will the powerful be held into account? And we're going to talk about law and order. The National Guard deployed to Washington, d C. And we've got a great lineup of guests
that are coming along. We have harm Meat Dylon coming at the bottom of the hour. She's the Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice. Harmy will join us. What I love about Harmat is she's a fighter and she's smart. Sometimes you don't get both of those qualities, but you have both of those with Harmony. In the second hour, we've got Jay Collins, the Lieutenant Governor of Florida, coming and he's going to talk about
illegal immigration. Yeah, flos being done on that.
Florida continues to lead on that front. He recently went to California to bring back the illegal alien who was driving a car that tragically results in the loss of life of three Floridians. No, you're absolutely right. Our lineup today is stacked with alpha's. We have a lawyer and Harmey Dillon for their problement of justice. Jay Collins, a former Green Beret, current lieutenant governor. We have a person who owns a private firearms company in the five o'clock hour, Josh Girard.
He actually is the former law enforcement officer who is with Berna, which provides non lethal solutions. But he's going to talk about his experiences in dealing with school shootings and talk about really what's at work there. And then at the bottom of the third hour. We have a legend. We have Mike Singletary, the legendary linebacker from the NFL, from the Chicago Bears, dub Bears, and he's going to come and give us a more optimistic note because he
has an amazing story. But he's all about hard work, about core values. We're going into the Labor Day weekend, there's so much terrible news. Mike's going to give us some optimism and some hope for the future based on character and fundamental values.
So we have a lawyer, a Green beret, a guy that owns a gun company, and a Hall of fam linebacker. That's what I'm saying. But we are tough today.
We are and we want you to join the conversation. Right one eight hundred ninety four one one seven, three two six and nine four one seven, three two six, join the conversation. Uh, don't worry. Things are gonna go fine because Linda is here. Linda is making sure that everything's gonna run smoothly. Let's talk about Minneapolis. I have children that are now all adults. You have younger children, horrifying.
I have a fifth grader who's literally hopefully getting off the bus right now as we speak, and I empathize and sympathize. It is every parent's worst nightmare to uh to wonder why your child hasn't gotten off the bus yet, or why they haven't come home, or to get that phone call from school. Actually got one from my daughter's school today. It turns out I was just about a bloody nose and not about anything much much worse. But that is not the phone call that other parents got yesterday, sadly,
tragically in Minnesota. And it is a tragedy. But what's also sad and tragic and predictable, unfortunately, is the way that people's personal tragedy becomes instantly politicized by the chattering class in the media. Listen to this montage. You're gonna hear three voices, and so you have a shooting. You have a shooting by a shooter we now know who belongs to a certain classification they identified as trans. But that's not overly interesting. I'm not really that interesting to us.
I don't think it's interesting in the larger scope. But it's interesting in the larger conversation we're having as a country about how to make dangerous places safe. Right Listen to your hear three voices. You canna hear MSNBC's Jensaki. You're gonna hear Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, and then you're gonna hear MSNBC host Joe Scarborough. Listen to what they have to say. Listen what they had to say yesterday. Here's what matters.
Today's shooter bought the rifle, handgun and shotgun. They used to do what they did today. Legally, we live in a country with more guns than people, where there are not universal background checks, they're not bands on assault weapons, and it is far too easy to buy a gun.
It's the guns everyone. It's not really a secret.
I'll speak generally, though. We have more guns in America than people. I don't see a reason and why people should be able to buy gun one month, and then buy a gun the next month, and then the next month after that. People who say that this is not about guns, you got to be kidding me. This is about guns. We do need to take action.
How many school shootings, how many shootings and churches? How many shootings at concerts, how many shootings at country music concerts, how many shootings in street fairs? How many shootings and restaurants. How many shootings everywhere are we going to have before we can talk about common sense gun safety laws.
Yeah, let's talk about common sense gun safety laws, particularly protecting schools. Because you pointed this out to me. Private schools in Minneapolis actually asked after the shooting was in Nashville. I believe that they wanted special protection. They wanted additional security at private schools, which certainly would applied to this Catholic school. What did Governor Waltz say?
So, a cadre of Minneapolis bishops started lobbying for and petitioning for funding to be able to have enhance security measures in non public schools aka religious schools. This came after there were shootings in twenty twenty two in Texas and in twenty twenty three in Nashville. They wrote letters, they begged Governor Tim Waltz, who ironically was selected by Democrats to be vice president because he allegedly could appeal to gun owners. But they're saying, hey, listen, we have
we think we're seeing a trend here. We're seeing these religious institutions be targeted by people who might not be super friendly to these values. We'd liked some additional funding. We like protection. The state at the time had a seventeen billion dollar surplus. They said, we like some money to help protect these schools. Tim Waltz did not call a special session to pass the legislation.
Yeah, you know, here's the funny thing about this funny in a six sort of way, is look at what the actual shooter in Minneapolis said. Why did the shooter pick this particular target. He picked this target for the same reason that the vast majority of other shooters picked their targets, because it was a gun free zone. This
is actually from the shooter's manifesto, and I quote. I recently heard a rumor that James Holmes, the Aurora Theater shooter, remember the Aurora shooting incident in Colorado, may have chosen venues that were gun free zones. I would probably aim the same way to shoot on the run and maybe change some minds. I understand why high security places like prisons in airports are different, but for most public places, the people are going to be unarmed. That's why I
and many others like schools so much. At least for me, I am focused on them. Adam Lonza, one of the shooters, is my reason. So This is why he picked it. The gun control problem is not the existence of guns. I mean, they said there are more guns in America than there are people. I can tell you in my neighborhood where I live, they're more guns and there are people. And I contribute to that, but it's a very safe
neighborhood because guns don't pull their own triggers, right. The problem is it's the culprit and they never want to talk about the culprits. They never want to talk about those factors, and they never want to highlight the fact that the way you protect innocent people is with a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun.
Well, and listen to you know, Jensaki last night. I watched Jensaki last night in America, so you didn't have to, and so I came prepared to discuss this. She got done after she did her whole you know monologue about it's the guns, it's the guns, and then they talked to it. She told a story about how after the school shooting in Texas, everybody got together and they worked to get some legislation passed. What do they pass meaningful
gun control legislation? So to me, the takeaway would be that you can pass all the different laws you'd like to, you're still not going to be able to stop bad people with bad motives from doing bad things. And that is a sad and tragic reality of American life. You know who understands it's a sad, tragic reality of American life. Democrats, And they actually understand it because they were They couldn't
stop saying it this week. But not about this issue, but about a different issue, which to me is the larger context of the conversation we should be having. Listen to Jamie raskin Okay on CNN this week. Listen to what he had to say about just the idea of crime and bad things happening.
He's trying to militarize our society intimidate his political opponents. The whole idea of picking cities based on their partisan leadership is absurd. I mean, there are lots of Republican cities in town struggling with crime. Everybody is across the country always, crime has always been part of our history, and yet crime is down in DC, for example, it's at a thirty year low. It's down in Baltimore, it's down in Chicago.
Yeah, here's the problem with that. We don't know what the statistics are. Right. There's an investing right now in the District of Columbia the fact that they were cooking the books. In twenty twenty one, there was a guy who worked in homicide in DC, worked in the homicide unit for ten years, who said, literally, they were cooking the books. In his lawsuit, he said people that died with gunshot monds were classified as dying quote unquote accidentally.
They cook the books because they know how bad it looks for them, and they know how bad it looks for their approach to law enforcement. So the notion that, oh, crime is better, we don't know that it's better. What we do know is to put it into context. Washington, d C, where Trump is deployed the National Guard, where they're all concerned about the militarization of DC, actually had a murder rate higher than Bogota, Columbia, Mexico City, and Islamabad, Pakistan.
In other words, Washington, d C. Had a worse murder rate than these third world countries, and the same would apply to Baltimore and several other American cities. So intolerable level, but they want us to tolerate it because they are so committed to gun control they don't want to try anything else.
That to me is the larger takeaway is we got done being lectured by Democrats All week before the tragedy in Minneapolis, the big story was, Hey, we put federal troops in Washington, d C. To try to bring down the crime. And by the way, it's working right by all accounts and metrics, and not the fake, fake news numbers that they've been trying to sell to the American people, but by all real numbers, crime in Washington, DC is
down because of the presence of the federal troops. So now he said, all right, well, hey listen Chicago, listen Baltimore. We might become a fee We might be doing the same thing. Of course, people in Chicago, people in Baltimore said, hey, are crime's down, You don't need to send anybody here. And they said, well, we don't believe it, because what you just said about the crime rates in Washington, d C. Relative to those other cities around the world, like Bogaton,
is Lamabad, it's true for Chicago and Baltimore. True. So but they were told, hey, look, crime is just a part of life. Guys, there's not much you can do.
Accept it. Accept it. So why we're excited to talk to har Meat Dillon with the Department of Justice at three thirty is she's been one of the smartest people out there about what mechanisms does the federal government have to be able to, let's say, encourage municipalities and states to receive federal assistance benevolently and happily, not like JB. Pritzker going out there and trying to, you know, look
tough for the cameras. I think it's working in DC, and it'll be interesting to see are these real threats right that ken Donald Trump really get federal troops to help stop crime in Chicago and Baltimore. And because what we'll talk about in this how the break is it's not just crime. It's crime that's affecting a certain part of the community, and it's part of a much larger
problem we have in this country. We have a crime problem in some of these cities, and we have a police problem in these cities.
We have a police problem. And look, they don't they say they don't want the National Guard deploy and I think we all agree constitutionally, we can't deploy them. But JB. Prisker had two hundred and fifty members of the Illinois National Guard when the Democratic Convention was in Chicago. In Wisconsin, they did the same thing seventeen hundred National Guard troops. So they don't mind deploying them. They want to be in charge and they only want to use them for their purposes.
No, that's absolutely right. Well, we'd love to hear from you. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm Eric Eggers. We host the podcast called The Drill Down. You can hear all of our episodes at the drill doown dot com. And we're going to be having I think, just a very informative and important conversation with all of you. Thanks for being a part of it. We'll be right back on the other side of this break. Hey, it's Eric Eggers and Peter
Schweitzer filling in for Sean Hannity. We do a podcast called The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer, which you can find wherever you find podcasts. The cruel irony of what happened this week is we had a tragedy in Minnesota. Children lost their lives. A lot of other children are injured, including some adults. And it's happened at a time when we're attempting to have a very serious and real conversation about law and order and how seriously do we take crime?
And the irony is is that we just got being told by Democrats that not all crime really matters that much. You heard Jamie raskin last segment say that it's always been part of our history. And listen to what someone at the DNC summer meeting just last week that after they got done with their land acknowledgment, they then told us this about crime.
Where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, awful stuff that is a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take the bait because most Americans are more worried about how are we going to address mental health issues, the visible homelessness that we see on streets, and how do we deal with mental health and other issues that drive the sort of random incidence that scare all of us. That's what you should be talking about. That's where you should
be focused. Don't take the bait and talking about migrant crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter to that many Americans.
What happened to you today, honey, Oh, I had a carjacking. It was a normal day. I mean, it's ridiculous, it's totally ridiculous, and it's completely out of touch with the reality of the way most people are living their lives. And the reason is that a lot of the elites that were attending that meeting, they live in secure buildings, apartment buildings that have armed security. They live in secure apartments,
they work in secure buildings. They don't have to deal with the normal street stuff that most people do.
And the reason why real people are having to deal with more street stuff is because in cities like Chicago, there is a police shortage of two thousand officers. Baltimore, where they're threatening to send troops, has down five hundred. New York City is already down troops or down police officers so much they've had to lower the education requirements from sixty hours of education to enter the academy down
to twenty four. So we have a police shortage because of how we've talked about law enforcement the last five years. And that's the conversation Donald Trump's trying to change. We'll talk about that plus other issues that matter to you with har Meat Dylan from the Department of Justice. On the other side of this break, he's Peter Schweiser. Americ
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Rights at the US Department of Justice. She is going to talk to us about the President's initiatives and efforts to deal with crime and RBS in America. We love har Meat. She's tough and she's smart. Har Meat, thanks so much for joining us.
Yes, thanks for having me so tell us.
We understand there are obvious constitutional issues. The president can't send the National Guard wherever he wants. But clearly it seems to me that that urban America would benefit from what's going on in Washington, d C. Are there any incentives or levers that can be pulled by the administration to try to get some of these mayors to cooperate and to deal with the massive crime problem that we're facing in urban America today.
Well, you know, just about every state and locality is on some form of federal welfare if you will, you know, said regularly give out grants and actual equipment to local law enforcement. And sure, I think you know, there's a process that may have to be gone through, but ultimately the federal government doesn't have to fund all of those things. So that would be something to do, is to tie your stability for this type of funding to certain basic
metrics of doing your job. You know, that might be an idea, but ultimately that's sort of more policy than what we do here at the DOJ. I mean, as a tax gayer of the Great District of Columbia, I'm saying that a little starcastically because I actually favorite place. But it is safer here, and I think the majority of DC residents other than a few wealthy white liberals, are quite thrilled would be increased safety. I mean, the mayors praising the federal government for hard work here and so.
But the president can do that directly in DC with a stroke of a pen, and it is much more complicated because you know, as conservatives, we believe in federalism, and certainly policing and police power are quintessential local tasks.
So Harmond, I'm going to ask you to maybe play psychologists here a little bit, just based on your experience in California. I mean, you you lived in California for a long time, You lived in the Bay Area. Why is it that these urban political establishments don't seem to care about widespread crime, They demoralize the police, they reject offers to help them. Help me understand why that seems to be their approach to this issue.
Well, first of all, who lives in these big cities. You know, it's usually sort of yepie types. You know, they make the laws, they have liberal values that they learned in college, and you know, those are the kind of people congregating. And you take the coast of California very expensive to live there, you literally actually be making sort of a quarter million dollars or three hundred thousand dollars or more and even break even living in one
of these cities and nice place. And so you know who are the people are typically liberal politically, and then you add to that the sort of black lives matters, activism, the indoctrination of people in the schools and even workplaces that white people are bad. And we have to atone for the pastons of the founders of this country by letting people come at crime. I mean, there's been straight faced defenses of looting as a form of reparations by
probably people a tenure in American universities. So that has gone unchecked by any countervailing debate or balance, and we've kind of seeded the universities and frankly corporate boards and you know, corporate hr departments to the left, and some conservatives, Chamber of Commerce types will be like, oh, you know, companies can do whatever they want, that's capitalism, and these
universities can do whatever they want, that's the First Amendment. No, all of this is being done with tax benefits that are granted by the government, by actual grants in the case of universities, from the federal government. And I think we have a right to I think we have a human right literally the building block of society. Why does society exist? Why do we need it as civilized sentient being. It's for safety, so that we aren't stealing each other's
property and raping each other. That's like the basic concept that predates, of course, our government. And yet we're failing on that basic premise. Do you look at Europe. Europe is failing on that basic premise. And I don't want to see that happening. I want to see little girls getting arrested for defending themselves here in the United States. That is not America.
So you talk about safety being a civil right, and you're obviously with the Civil Rights Division of the United States Department of Justice, and I've heard you talk about how in some issues the United States is willing to leverage the fact that all these states and municipalities are
taking some money. Now you've mentioned it specifically in the area of transport, and I think you've said it's because, look, we want to defend regular girls who want to play and not have to be threatened by safety issues or
lack of competitive balance issues, things like that. What would you say if someone who let's say someone was from a civil rights organization in the city of Chicago and they said, hey, miss Dylan, eighty black residents were eighty times or twenty two times more likely to be shot than their white counterparts. In Baltimore, eighty one percent of victims of crimes were African American. In New York, they're twenty four percent of the population, but they're sixty five
percent of the murders. We're seeing disproportionate impacts in terms of the violence that are happenings in our cities. Can it qualify? Could it qualify as a civil rights issue? And can you use that plus the fact that these dates are taking federal money as leverage or an excuse to try to go and intervene. If you see these mayors or states continue to be not excited about accepting federal assistance. We understand the principle of local control, but
the federal government does intervene at other times. I mean, could you use that as an excuse.
Yeah, so it's a little complicated, but let me break it down a little bit. So we don't favor the passive disperate impact theory of liability in discrimination cases. So just because there's a different differential number, that doesn't prove
anything in our policy here in this government. However, if one could establish that there is a pattern and practice, and those words are a term of art in civil rights litigation, if there is a pattern in practice of policing in one of these cities that leads minority neighborhoods and people more vulnerable because they simply don't allocate police to those neighborhoods, or they've given up on those neighborhoods, they've let no go zones occur in you know, largely
minority neighborhoods. That would be a civil rights violation. So you know, someone needs to me that fact pattern, But that would be a civil rights violation. So if that's happening, you know, I'd love to learn that, you know, but it's also true that there's less crime and wealthier areas, So that doesn't necessarily think the numerical conclusions that you came up with or recited don't lead inexorably to the logical conclusion that there's a disparate policing policy. There can
be different outcomes based on you know, environmental circumstances. So we have to see this.
I hear you, but I feel like we went from have been on the radio to being in law school class just now. Professor Dillon is like breaking it down lots of theories and really a lot of syllables. But I hear you, and I think that you I take you at your word. We also want to ask you about something that the president message about on his social media platforms, because I know you've represented him in election law cases before, and he said he wants to get rid of mail in ballots or at least take a
look at that. What when you see something like that happen. What's your perspective on that? And is that something that seems like realistic. I don't know that you could actually get rid of a methodology of voting in this country, but could you also once again, like leverage the financial incentives to encourage states to crack down and really make sure their voter rules more accurate. What role could you play in trying to make elections more secure?
Well, first of all, the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division is demanding voter le data from all fifty states. That's happening excellent. Frankly, we're getting pushed back from, you know, from some states. I won't say which because I'm working on all of them, but you know that's a top priority. And we have the right under the nineteen sixty Civil Rights Act for the Attorney jumps to
demand this data. And we're demanding it, and we're getting it from some states and some states we're fighting with, but I intend to get it from.
All the states.
And what we're doing with that data is we're comparing these voter roles with other states to ensure that there are is duplication or other issues because elections in this country. You hear the refrain from critics of this effort that, oh, you know, fraud isn't widespread. Well, it doesn't have to be widespread. Elections are won and lost by one vote in this country, and every citizen is entitled to their vote being counted equally and only with other citizens in
federal elections. And so, yes, we have a federal elections, so the federal law do apply at a certain level. I think Congress could update and write its laws better because when the you know, federal civil rights statutes that I administer were passed, there was no widespread mail in voting and you know, automatic voter registration, like there's laws that had that in place. But some of the aspects of our laws are being routinely ignored by the states.
So I don't want to preview litigation that we're we have in the opera, but there will be litigation on some of these federal voting statutes, so you know, stay tuned. And yes, Congress could absolutely get up it's behind and write better laws, and they should because our tax dollars are flowing to all of the states and localities to support their federal elections, and what are we getting in
return a patchwork of dubious compliance and worse. So I think we deserve better as taxpayers and as citizens.
So my question is also about dubious compliance, but that comes to the work that you're doing to combat anti semitism. You've had some great, i think success enforcing American universities and some other institutions to address the issue, to get rid of certain policies, or at least seemingly get rid
of certain policies. How confident are you that these institutions are actually going to live up to their promises and how much do you think we should fear that they're just kind of recategorize things in a way, rename things, and continue with some of the same practices.
Well, the first big deal that we did is a Columbia deal. I'm very proud of that. Hard to bring that in and there was extensive negotiation over the terms, and Columbia had a huge anti semitism problem.
And what we have in the.
Columbia situation is we have an internal monitor. You know, we have a you know, we have we have we have we have compliance requirements that these schools have to comple. This school particularly has to comply with. There's dispute, robust dispute resolution in it. There is they've hired a there they've agreed to hire a officer for Jewish life on the campus to be a kind of troubleshooter. Non buzzman
for Jewish employees and students. They made numerous changes before we signed the deal, So there were numerous gating items that they checked off before we came to the table and signed the steal, including radically reforming their student discipline system, really undercutting the power of the faculty in that process. And these are all great reforms. And so at the end of the day, however, they're the recipients of grants.
Nobody's entitled to these grants, you know, notwithstanding some silly litigation we've seen from Harvard about their entitlement like some kind of you know, you know, sort of vested interest. It's not a vested interest. The United States can choose not to renew those grants or give new grants, and it will as long as this president or somebody with
his viewpoints are in office. I think there's going to be a zero tolerance policy for the type of carnage, violence, and widespread disregard for the civil rights of students and faculty and other employees on these campuses. So if we October seventh is coming up, if we see those types of scenes at schools that we've done deals with, there'll be a new conversation with those schools, so this will not simply go un remarked.
Well, that's excellent to know. We'll be keeping tabs on that, plus any future litigation that you said you have quote unquote in the hopper, and we'll see how the conversation evolves about how the administration encourages cities to take their crime more seriously harm Meat Dylan with the Attorney General's Office. She's the head of the Civil Rights Division. She's an incredibly smart and aggressive attorney and we always learn things
from her. I'm glad we had you on at three o'clock hour her meet because now I can just say things that you said for the rest of the show and act like their things I know, but instead of things I learned from you this hour. But no, we really appreciate your time and thank you for all the work you're doing on behalf of all Americans the Department of Justice. He's Peter Schweitzer, I'm Eric Eggers. This is the Sean Handy Show. We're back right after this.
Peter Schweizer and Narrowdiggers were filling in for Sean joined the conversation one in eight hundred ninet four one seven two six. We've got a real badass that's coming on next and you know him who's coming on?
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Thanks, yeah, I know I know you too, am I saying? Hey Peter Schwizer. He is a real badass for an author. But the guy we're gonna talk to you and the other side of this break is Jay Collins. He's Lieutenant governor of Florida. He's been called the Chuck Norris of politics. And not like in that Sidekicks movie where he played the Karate instrucle. This guy's like a real deal. You can't wait to hear his story. He's the guy that purp walked the illegal immigrant back from California. Hear his
story and how Florida is leading on crime. And this had this break with Peter Schwartz, Americ eggers in Vershan Handy talk to in just a second