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Dr. Oz - June 20th, Hour 2

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Dr. Oz joins Sean to talk about the savings for "the every man" and why it's critical for the Senate to move on the big, beautiful bill!

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Speaker 1

Right hour two Sean Hannity Show, toll free. It is eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if you

want to be a part of the program. Well, predictably, Democrats are out there doing the usual, you know, medicaid, menacecare, and trying to scare old people into believe in it's going to be massive cuts to Medicare, social security, poor people, elderly people will only eat dog food and cat food until somebody that looks like Donald Trump comes by takes them in their wheelchair and throws them over a cliff.

I mean, we have heard this now, these these phony false arguments, these fear tactics, these outright lies for years. You go back to New Gingrich and Bill Clinton when they reduced the rate of growth for Medicaid. They went from seven percent a year every year percent they went to seven percent. They're increasing spending seven percent a year

every year for seven years. But because it wasn't the twelve thirteen percent that they originally had allocated for that's a cut of increase because it was twice the rate of inflation. But that didn't stop Democrats from going out there at demagoguing and just outright lying, just like Joe's not a cognitive mess. Just like the borders are secure, just like inflation is transitory, et cetera, et cetera. It's just the same old things. Republicans are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic,

is lamophobic. They want dirty air and water, and they want to kill Grandma and Rampa. Doctor Oz is leading point on this entire issue and talking about what is really in the reconciliation build. There's no cut at all as it relates to medicaid medicare at all. And here's what he said.

Speaker 2

We are responsible for jud keating about one point seven trillion dollars the CMS. That's twice the size of the defense budget. It's massive, puts a big target on our back. There are massive efforts by foreign governments and you know, domestic thieves to steal money from the programs. We have got to clean up the fraud, waste, and abuse. The changes that the House bill has, and they're very wise.

Ones are the ones are going to allow us to use these programs to protect our vulnerable, because when they steal money from these programs, they're stealing for our most vulnerable. This is the most ambitious health reform bill ever in American history. It's imperative that it passes so people like me can actually keep seeing mesh running smoothly.

Speaker 1

Anyway, Doctor Oz also putting out here that changes to the one Big Beautiful Bill are the ones that are going to allow us to use these programs to protect our vulnerable, because when they steal money from these programs, they are stealing from our most vulnerable. It is imperative that it passes. Now what does all that mean when you break it down. We had John thun On earlier in the week. We got his take on all of this. Doctor Oz is heading up this effort, and I want

to eliminate any fear ambiguity. I want to counter the lies that are being told on this. Doctor melmot Oz is with us. He is the administrator for the Centers for Medicare Medicaid Services. Doctor Oz, welcome back, sir her are you?

Speaker 3

Thank you, Sean, and you articulated it so beautifully. We love these programs. The President has said that explicitly he loves and cherishes Medicare and Medicaid, not touching Medicare at all. By the way, those rumors are already out there. Senators are being approached in the supermarket aisles saying don't cut

my medicare, that no one's touching medicare. This is an effort to clean up medicaid, take care of the waste, to fraud, the abuse that's in the system, so that we have enough money to take care of the people who are in the program. The people who we're charged with managing, those at the dawn of their life, the children, those are the the twilight of their life. Is the elderly and those in the shadows sean who aren't going to get better necessarily, and they're having difficult times, and

they've got illnesses that sometimes they're chronic. We want these folks managed. For sixty years, this country has been doing it to medicaid. Every great society is judged by how they take care of folks who are having trouble. We

are great people, we do it. But the fact that we've allowed the system to get perverted over the last three years to make it easy for frousters take advantage of it, to facilitate putting people on these programs who don't need to be on the programs iss you're getting their insurance elsewhere, to let people who should be trying to get a job, not feel some pressure to do just that it's good for them, by the way, anyway, for many reasons. They'll make more money with a job.

But the fact we haven't urged those folks together their house and try to participate in communities or get an education or just volunteer is wrong and it hurts the program. And we're seeing this in more and more blue states when governors can't manage their budgets anymore because they haven't been facing these challenges head on. And in every state, sean, in every state, the fastest growing health item is Medicaid. It's the health budget, all right.

Speaker 1

Can you break down and make the distinction for people that may not know between Medicaid and Medicare. Can you also explain how for the same services, Medicaid pays x Medicare pays hy three times as much. Can you explain that so people that have an understanding of how insane this whole system is and the urgent need for reform.

Speaker 3

So when you get your paycheck, there's two point nine percent taken out for the government to pay for Medicare. Medicare is the insurance program for older Americans once you get past age sixty five. There's some other exceptions for chronic illness, but that's basically Medicare. Medicaid was the program designed for folks who didn't have any money, who didn't meet the federal poverty level of income. So this is

typically children. You know, half the children in the country are born into Medicaid or CHIP, the children's health insurance system. So the kids don't have money because they're not working, so if their parents don't have resources, they've become financially challenged. We want to help those kids to make sure they're given appropriate preventive care and grew up healthy and strong.

Their moms are protected. Folks who are living a life where they've had difficulties getting a job or holding a job, don't have income, are also given health insurance through Medicaid. This is a a social obligation I feel, and I think it's the nation we have decided and for sixty

years we have provided insurance to these Medicaid books. It was all going fine, and then over the last fifteen years there's been an effort by primarily a Democratic party to re engineer it, to expand Medicaid to allow it to cover people who were not part of the original deal. When you do that, you create some risks. And I'm not saying it was that on purpose, but there's no question what happened. There was a dramatic increase in the amount of money that was being spent to give people

insurance through Medicaid. Even people who should be working in jobs were now given Medicaid insurance coverage. And it has allowed those programs, Medicaid to grow fifty persons.

Speaker 1

Well, how did they allow for this eligibility. I'm not trying to interrupt you.

Speaker 3

Here, Sean. It never crossed anyone's mind sixty years ago that you would ever give free health insurance to able by the individuals. And they didn't put it in the law because it never dawned at anybody. You di even try to do that. But with the Obama cut care, because they didn't think they could afford to do it to the other tactics that were offered, they decided, you don't what, We'll just expand Medicaid. We'll give Medicaid insurance not just to the kids and to the poor folks

and the elderly. We'll actually give it to able bodied individuals or who don't have a job. And so by doing that, you introduced a whole different dynamic. And then here's the part that really gets me pure initial question. When Obama wrote this law in place, he said that you could not pay more for an able bodied person

than someone on Medicare. I'll see it again. A Medicaid patient, enabled bodied person without a job and therefore living in poverty and given free insurance by the government was not allowed to pay a doctor more than a senior who worked their whole life and put money into the system retired on Medicare. And the reason for that is because you don't want doctors deciding to take care of Medicaid patients over Medicare patients, right, they're all equal. This changed

under the Biden administration. They changed to say you could pay Medicaid patients, these able body individuals up to three times more than Medicare. That of course, completely destroyed the system because now you have doctors thinking, my goodness, you know, I get paid more for taking care of an able bodied, healthy person on Medicaid that I do an older person who's on Medicare. So it begins to cause huge instability in the system. This one big, beautiful bill is a

bold and appropriate effort to fix this injustice. It's the right thing to do. I know that we're making up stories around it, but I want to plaud the Republican senators who are crafted some improvements to a build that was already really well done by the House. Because Johnson got did a congressional leaders together and crafted a very very effective bill. It's exactly what we need within government to make sure that Medicaid is going to be around for the next generation.

Speaker 1

Well and set it towards insolveigncy. Based on every estimate that I've seen over the years, my question is, all right, so you have able bodied people. Now, we do have millions of jobs open in the country right now, we have the latest job numbers come out. It's very clear there's millions of them. And so you have able bodied people that are on these Medicaid roles and they're paying all those that we are paying for their health care,

which ostensibly correct me if I'm wrong. Is that not nationalized healthcare?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 3

This is. You know, we're edging perilously close to that. And we have a system that would work if we kept the incentives in place the way they were originally designed. And Sean I can't emphasize this enough. The original program, created sixty years ago next month worked well. I mean, it took care of the groups that I mentioned who otherwise would have been left behind, and as a great nation, we will continue to do that. The Republican Party just

wants these programs that survived. You look around the country at states at California and Illinois, in Minnesota, which just today I'm reading in the paper that they are starting to pull back from some of their programs to fund illegal immigrants on Medicaid. I mean, first of all, it's not the right thing to do, because people in other states should not be forced to pay for decisions you make in your state. But more importantly, they can't have

been afforded in their own states. So we need to make the bold and correct decisions today to save these vitally important programs for tomorrow.

Speaker 1

What do we do with these states that are paying massive amounts of money to illegal immigrants, for example, like California, about two thirds of the healthcare payments for the poor indigen or people that are not working. Is that not coming from the federal government, meaning every taxpayer, not just Californians.

Speaker 3

Yes, yes, Yet I don't think people know this sewn, and your listeners, as smart as they are, may not have kept up with this. I'll just put the numbers out there. Ninety percent of the money that a state might pay to a medicaid patient who's able bodied is going to come from the federal government ninety percent. So they make the decision of who they want to cover, and we're stuck with the bill. So we have said already in this administration, we are not going to compensate

you for undocumented individuals. If they're illegal immigrants and you want to give them medicaid on your dollar, then it's up to you to do that. We're not going to do it. And that's why you now see all of a sudden, California, Illinois, Minnesota, states that had made the decisions and were boldly standing tall because they're going to do the right thing, now they're saying, well, it's not

that right because we can't afford it. All of a sudden, instead of being in a surplus for our state budget, we're in a big deficit. And they're not starting to get upset that we're not compensating them. But it's not right to ask someone living in Florida or Texas to pay for an illegal immigrants on medicating California. They didn't vote for it, they don't want it. It's not their responsibility. And I'm not doing my job. I'm not representing the president.

Well if I'm allowing that to happen. So this administration isn't very clear. We are going to take care of the American people. The President always has you always will. This battle, although it's politically bruising, is the right thing to do for those Americans who will need medicating the future. We will preserve it, we will protect it, we will love and cherish it.

Speaker 1

All right, quick, freak more with doctor Oz on the other side, and your calls coming up. Eight hundred and nine to four one sean, as we continue this Friday. All right, we continue now with doctor Oz. He is the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Let's talk about the advancement and the future of medicine. For example, I've brought this up the last time you were on the program. We have a guide, doctor Josh Umber.

He's out of Wichita, Kansas, and he had a concierge service fifty dollars a month per adult ten dollars per child, and it was twenty four hour concierge care. They would take care of almost all of your medical needs, you know, short of cancer, heart attack, stroke, and really severe circumstances. But if you took that fifty dollars a month and you coupled it with a catastrophic plan with the lowest

deductible you can afford, it would fully cover individuals. It included telemedicine as part of it, It included healthcare cooperatives like this as part of it. I mean, we've got to re examine, in my view of the paradigm, how we do medicine.

Speaker 3

Well, I think we need to bring in digital solutions, and you just hinted at those programs like the one you outline make a lot of sense because there's a lot of alignment of incentives. This is again what the President is so good at. You align what the federal government wants. We've got the state governments wants with what

the doctors want, with what the patients want. So if a doctor is getting that kind of care at those transparent prices, and then you can you can scale it, you can grow it by allowing there to be some crutching on digital solutions. I'll give you a good example. Doctors spend most of their time charting. You don't want your doctor and nurse writing in the chart all the time. You want them looking at you in the eye, taking

care of you. We have technology now that would allow us to gather while the doctors in their workflow, while they're taking care of you. Gather the data electronically, you know, and table it and make it accessible and understandable with artificial intelligence, so the patient can have a copy when they go home to share with their family. That's something we should be making easy to do, not hard to do. You mentioned telemedicine another good example where especially in rural areas,

and I want to just focus on this. We have got to help rural medicine. Members of the audience who are living in rural areas, the Republican Party, this bill is going to help you and may people are making up stories about how it's designed to hurt some of the poor hospitals. As the opposite, the hospitals that have lobbyists and are located in affluent urban areas, they're able to get all the contacts they need to take money out of the system. The folks who are left behind

need to have transparent tactics to help them. What you just brought up as an example of that we have the technology to do it. We should be investing in rural health here to make sure all Americans may be equal access to high quality care.

Speaker 1

Doctor Oz. I hope people are hearing you loud and clear, because this is going to the result in improved healthcare on a level that we've never seen before, institutionalized modernization in the medical care system, and Americans will be healthier as a result, Doctor Oz. Appreciate your time as always, Thank you so for being with us. When we get back eight hundred and nine to four one, Shawn us on number I want all of you right now, please

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Hannity dot Com. Hope you can come out. You will have a great time. That much I can tell you. I can't help it. There's certain Democrats that just stand out that I really really love, and one of them we don't talk enough about them, and that's Congressman Hank Johnson. You might recall his warning that Guam make capsize.

Speaker 4

I don't know how many square miles that is. Do you happen to know?

Speaker 5

I don't have that figure with me, sir.

Speaker 1

I can certainly supply it to you.

Speaker 3

If you'd like.

Speaker 4

Yeah, my fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize. We don't anticipate that.

Speaker 1

I mean, you really can't make it up. And that's why there's like Jasmine Crockett, AOC the Squad there's just certain Democrats I like more than others. Grandpa Bernie, I think they're all crazy and they make representatives. Anyway, here's Hag Johnson and his bizarre rant on Trump and the administration's deportations. Now, remember with deporting, let's see murderers, child molesters, gang members, drug dealers.

Speaker 6

First, they came for the Latinos outside of the home depots, and I didn't say anything about it because I'm not a Latino at the home depot. Then they came for the Hispanic looking folks wearing hats backward with tattoos, and I didn't say anything about that because I don't wear my hair backward and I don't have any tattoos, and

I don't look like a Latino. And then they came and arrested a white female judge, a state court judge, And I didn't say anything then because I'm not a judge with a white female judge state could.

Speaker 1

I mean again, the guy's a real genius. And then remember when Joe Biden's classified documents, you know they were in his garage next to the corvette. They were in four separate locations going back to his years in the Senate in some cases go to the library at whatever college they were stored at. He thinks that Biden's classified documents could have been planted. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 7

Listen, things can be planted, Things can be planted in places and then discovered conveniently.

Speaker 8

That may be what has occurred here. I'm not ruling that out.

Speaker 7

And people on the local level, at affected school board meetings, they won't forget the Magda Republicans descending on their school board meetings after January six, like January six, disrupting meetings. It was a coordinated attack happening across the country. Americans

won't forget about it. School Board members, teachers, administrators subjected to violence, threats of violence, harassment, intimidation, and in response to that, the National School Board's Association sent a letter to the Biden administration seeking federal help.

Speaker 1

Things had gotten so far out of hand. Well, Hank Johnson, the reason I bring all this up. The man that thinks that Guam can capsize back in the news today because he has an anti Trump song inspired by Jimmy Hendrix member, Hey Joe, that's an oldie anyway.

Speaker 9

Here's his version, compelled with a new guitar and with some thoughts about that old song. Hey Joe, you know, to give some commentary on where we are now.

Speaker 10

Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand? Hey Trump, where you're going with that gun in your hand.

Speaker 8

I'm going down the street shoot down democracy. You know, I want to be a king some day. I'm going down and shoot democracy down. You know, I want to be the king some day. Hey Donald Trump, we won't let you take out democracy down. Take it down to the ground. Trump, We won't let you take out democracy down. Burn it down to the ground.

Speaker 1

Linda, you love that, but you used to be the musician and art.

Speaker 5

I gotta tell you. If he tuned the guitar and actually could sing, then it would be amazing.

Speaker 1

But it's as you know, if he tuned the guitar and could sing and then it would be amazing, then it would be amazing.

Speaker 5

And if he you know, I don't know, maybe asked somebody else to perform it. But if he was on the island of Guam and it did capsize, we could contact him with rapid radios and I think that would come in useful for Hank. In fact, I think Hank could sing us that song from Guam. You know if he felt really you know, move to do so.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 5

I think you should start to sing Rapid Radios.

Speaker 1

I think you need to thank day Johnson.

Speaker 5

I mean, why not. You know I've seen you play air guitar. Is a lot of promise there.

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my free state of Florida. Joe, Hey, how are you glad you called?

Speaker 11

I am just leaving Ruth Eckert Hall right now. I got my tickets for Saturday.

Speaker 1

Oh really? Oh so you got your take. I'm so. I'm so happy. That's awesome.

Speaker 11

Yeah, there's not many left, not many. There's a couple of seats, you know, up in front of me that were a little pricey. But it's going to be a big seal and it's gonna be awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1

I was told that there's less than like one hundred tickets left. And but you know, I hope everyone comes, has a great time, and we're really working on a great show. It's one week from tomorrow. Can you believe it? It's here. I'm excited.

Speaker 11

It's gonna be great. We've got one problem though, there's a big sign. I'm standing looking at it say's no weapons allowed on prem So I guess you're going to be the only one that's armed.

Speaker 1

Uh, that would be a good thing for me. But if there's no weapons allowed on premises, that probably means me there there will be plenty of security there. You have to assume where I show up that there's going to be somebody that hates my guts.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 11

Oh yeah, there's many liberals floating around this campus right now. I see as I get in my car.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, did they make it fun? They'll make it entertaining.

Speaker 11

Yeah, it's gonna be fun. I just I really admire the way that you can dance on the razorblade when you're talking about, I know, your friendship with the president and the things that you can and can't talk about. I'm a retired Navy chief did time and a carrier in the Gulf War, and then one of them in the streets of bad Dad fifteen years later when the see it and assumes were thought it was more fun

to kill us than each other. But I really admire what you do, and I think that, Uh, I don't think the President is going to pass this on to anybody else. So, I mean, Reagan had his Russians, and Trump knows what he's got to do, and I think he's handling it well and trying to get him a surrender. But I don't think he's going to pass this along. This has to be done, now, do you agree.

Speaker 1

Well, he's been very clear, and I take him at his word, and frankly, he has a history of keeping his word on these issues. The Caliphate is an example. Bagdaddy and associates is an example. So Lemani is an example. He dropped the mother of all bombs of your recall. So he's not against using military force. I know that there are you know some people that kind of pervertedly have interpreted not forever war to mean no military use ever.

But you know, people are entitled to their opinion. I don't really care what they think or what they say. I have my opinion, and I just believe that evil has to be confronted and otherwise it would be a big, big mistake if you allow them to get these weapons.

Speaker 12

That's my opinion, absolutely, So listen, good seeing good talking in I'll see you next week.

Speaker 11

Hopefully I get a chance to shake your hand.

Speaker 1

All right, my friend. I'm looking forward to it and thank you. We'll have a great time. We're gonna put our heart and soul onto it. I can promise you that. All right, quick, Frank, we'll come right back. More of your phone calls coming up straight ahead. Eight hundred nine four one sewn. If you want to be a part of the program, that's eight hundred nine four one Seawan as we continue straight ahead. All right, let's get back to our busy phones this Friday. Eight hundred ninety four one,

Shawn our number, David in Texas. God bless Texas, David. Happy Friday to you, sir. What's going on?

Speaker 12

How are you, Sean? I'm calling you from the heather free state in our country, the state of Texas, as a veteran. I just wanted to thank you for the support that you give us. I love your show. You are the reincarnator Rush Limbaugh. You are the voice of this move.

Speaker 1

There's no Rush Limba. You can't Danna. You know he's Babe Ruth. There's only one Babe Ruth.

Speaker 12

Well, I even love the products on your show. I'm hoping that taxes, no tax on overtime happens, so I can get a burner. But listen, the reason I called is to ask you, I got to assume that Iran is somewhat a little bit intelligent about They know that nobody can reach that deep except us. What do you think the chances are that the material in that bunker is being moved? Is it possible that those Chinese military planes are moving the enriched uranium out so that it's not destroyed.

Speaker 1

I don't like any of it. I think that I'm very suspicious either that or they're providing some military equipment of some kind. So I really don't know, and I just, honestly, I just hope that this issue was resolved safely. I agree with the president's proposition that he keeps repeating that they can't have nuclear weapons and unconditional surrender, And you know, I'm not really moved by the fact at all that

he is giving them an additional two weeks. I assume he has more information than I do, and that's the best I can say. I mean, I think he has a track record. I know there are people isolationist types in his ear that would, you know, rather we turn a blind eye, and I think that would put the world on the precipice of a potential, you know, holocaust in our lifetime, and that's pretty scary just based on their previous actions, right right.

Speaker 12

And the other thing that concerns me is I don't think the retaliation I RAN's going to do is going to be anything against our military, because that's too obvious and we're preparing for that. I agree with you about the that came in illegally. I think it's going to be something a sell that gets woken up here in our country. I pray that doesn't happen, but I think that that's already in place, and I just pray to God that that's not.

Speaker 4

Well.

Speaker 1

You know, the argument that people are making not to get involved because there might be an attack on the homeland, those people are already here. I've been saying now for years that it's not when, it's if, it's not if it's when it's gonna happen. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris May archist. They allowed known terrorists in the country. We have Iranian assassination squads in the country, so you know, whether this

could be a trigger. It was a trigger that was going to be pulled at some point anyway, and I hope to God that our FBI and that our intelligence community is able to track these people down. I really do with all my heart.

Speaker 12

Well, I appreciate your time, and I love what you do, and thank you for the bottom of my heart as a veteran.

Speaker 1

Well, thank you for serving your country. You're a good man. God bless you, God bless Texas, my friend. Eight hundred nine point one shown is on number this Friday. If you want to be a part of the program, listen. You know the feeling you spend a lot of time you prepare your food. Maybe you prepare on a steak or a burger or chicken. Maybe it's fish, maybe it's pork chops, delicious pork chops, delicious pork ribs, whatever it is, and you want it perfect when it comes to cooking.

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