Episode description

Up with the sparrows or hanging with the night owls: we humans like to put ourselves into one of two camps.

But when it comes to native animals, this idea of either being awake during the day or at night just doesn’t hold up.

And while cane toads have already traversed most of northern Australia, there is an ambitious project to stop the pests from infiltrating the Pilbara -- but time is running out to put the plan in motion.

We chat all things nature with environment reporter Peter de Kruijff and ABC presenter and nature nerd Dr Ann Jones.