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The SAF Podcast

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Welcome to The SAF Podcast, the only podcast on the internet that exclusively covers sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). So if you want to find out the real issues and challenges are for commercialising and scaling SAF production, look no further.

Every week we will be hearing from senior industry leaders who are actively shaping the future of SAF and aviation. 


Hosted by Oscar Henderson and brought to you by the team at SAF Investor. Connect with us at www.safinvestor.com

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Episodes

The SAF Podcast: Jim Stonecipher - Fulcrum BioEnergy and a cautionary tale for SAF Production

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, we are joined by Jim Stonecipher, Managing Director at EdyMac and former executive at Fulcrum BioEnergy. With over 30 years of chemical engineering experience, Jim offers a candid, behind-the-scenes look at Fulcrum's high-profile journey—from promise to Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The company's ambitious vision to convert municipal solid waste into sustainable aviation fuel represented a promising technological pathway, but faced numerous obstacles—from COVID-relat...

Jun 25, 202547 minSeason 3Ep. 16

The SAF Podcast: Gulfstream - Getting sandy in SAF's beachhead

This week on the SAF Podcast Smitha Hariharan, Vice President and Chief Sustainability Officer at Gulfstream Aerospace, discusses how one of the leading business jet manufacturer is pioneering sustainability through a comprehensive three-pillar strategy that balances environmental responsibility with business performance, with a heavy focus on Sustainable Aviation Fuel since 2011. From Gulfstream's groundbreaking 2011 transatlantic flight using 50% SAF to their 2023 achievement of flying a G600 ...

Jun 19, 202533 minSeason 3Ep. 15

The SAF Podcast: Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance - Removing the barrier to corporate market entry

This week Andre de Fontaine, Sustainable Aviation Buyers Alliance (SABA) joins us on The SAF Podcast. Founded in 2021, SABA has been at the forefront of driving the Book and Claim conversation and allowing corporates to purchase SAF for their operations when they cannot control what fuel they fly on. Andre explains how SABA has grown to include approximately 35 major companies—including BCG, Bank of America, Netflix, and Meta—that share ambitious climate targets and significant aviation footprin...

Jun 04, 202538 minSeason 3Ep. 14

The SAF Podcast: Avia Solutions Group - Unleasing Baltic SAF Production

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , we welcome Gediminas Ziemelis, Founder and Chairman of Avia Solutions Group, to discuss the company’s move into sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) production through its NorSAF project. As the world’s largest wet-leasing provider, Avia Solutions Group operates across six continents and is now leveraging its extensive infrastructure to help decarbonize aviation. Gediminas shares how the company is developing a state-of-the-art SAF and eSAF production facility in ...

May 28, 202545 minSeason 3Ep. 13

The SAF Podcast with Dani Charles, Veriflux: AI as the co-pilot for compliance

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , we welcome back our first returning guest, Dani Charles, CEO and Co-Founder of Veriflux. Following his deep dive into U.S. policy in his first appearance, Dani returns to unpack the increasingly critical—and complex—world of feedstock traceability in sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) production and how AI can could be the secret to doing it accurately at scale. Dani explains why relying on spreadsheets are no longer viable at scale and how best-of-breed technol...

May 21, 202548 minSeason 3Ep. 12

The SAF Podcast : AfriSAF - Tapping into SAF's continental sleeping giant

This week we are joined on The SAF Podcast by Kwame Bekoe, AfriSAF. With over 20 years of aviation experience spanning engineering, sales, and sustainability, Kwame shares his vision for Africa as a major player in the global SAF industry. He discusses how the continent’s vast agricultural residue—estimated at over 150 million tons annually—can be leveraged to produce SAF, fostering energy independence and economic growth. We examine AfriSAF’s model of integrating smallholder farmers into a data...

Apr 30, 202547 minSeason 3Ep. 11

The SAF Podcast with Robert Courts: Pulling back the curtain on UK policy development

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , we go behind the curtain of UK sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) policy with former Aviation Minister and former Member of Parliament for the UK Robert Courts. Listeners will gain a rare glimpse into the complexities of government policymaking—from managing cross-departmental collaboration and limited civil service bandwidth to ensuring stakeholder engagement and long-term adaptability. Courts candidly addresses industry concerns about implementation timelines,...

Apr 16, 202553 minSeason 3Ep. 10

The SAF Podcast: Innovate UK Business Connect: Connecting SAF's dot to dot

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , Oscar sits down with Michelle Carter, Head of Transport at Innovate UK Business Connect, to explore the current state and future trajectory of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) in the UK. With over a decade of experience in SAF, Michelle offers a unique lens into the evolution of the UK’s SAF ecosystem—from early-stage innovation to national mandates and public awareness. The conversation delves into the UK's position in the global SAF market, revealing that th...

Apr 09, 202548 minSeason 3Ep. 9

The SAF Podcast: Aether Fuels - Pulling SAF out of thin air

Connor Madigan, founder of Aether Fuels, joins Oscar on this week's episode of The SAF Podcast. Madigan shares his journey from founding a successful OLED manufacturing equipment company to pioneering a transformative approach to SAF technology through Aether's Aurora solution. At the heart of our conversation is Aether Fuels' Aurora technology, developed with GTI Energy, which reimagines the traditional Fischer-Tropsch process for sustainable fuel production. By focusing on the syngas generatio...

Mar 26, 202552 minSeason 3Ep. 8

The SAF Podcast: EasyJet - The not-so-easy path the Net Zero

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , host Oscar is joined by Lahiru Ranasinghe, Director of Sustainability at EasyJet, to explore the airline’s journey toward net zero. With aviation’s decarbonization at the forefront of industry discussions, Lahiru outlines EasyJet’s three-pronged strategy—Reduce, Replace, Remove —which balances efficiency improvements, sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) adoption , and long-term hydrogen integration. Discover how EasyJet is navigating the complex SAF landscape by ...

Mar 19, 202541 minSeason 3Ep. 7

The SAF Podcast: Neste - The importance of being flexible and nimble

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , Alex Kueper, VP of Renewable Aviation at Neste, the world’s leading producer of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF)joins Oscar. As the industry pushes towards net-zero emissions by 2050, Alex provides a deep dive into Neste’s expansion, the evolving market landscape, and the key challenges shaping the future of SAF. What began as Finland's post-WWII oil refiner evolved into a renewable energy leader that placed billion-dollar bets on sustainable fuels long before...

Mar 12, 202551 minSeason 3Ep. 6

The SAF Podcast - Votion Biorefineries: Patience + Perseverance = Production

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, we dive into the evolving world of biomass-to-liquid fuels as Oscar chats with Anders Edling Hultgren, Founder of Votion Biorefineries. With nearly two decades in biofuels, Anders shares his journey from the Swedish forestry sector to pioneering innovations in bio-oil production. Hultgren shares his groundbreaking approach to converting diverse biomass feedstocks—from bark and forestry residues to agricultural waste—into high-quality bio-oils suitable for hydr...

Mar 05, 202541 minSeason 3Ep. 5

The SAF Podcast: Breakthrough Energy - SAF discovery, development and deployment

This episode of the SAF Podcast welcomes Julia Reinaud from Breakthrough Energy to discuss how sustainable aviation fuel fits into Europe's renewable energy landscape. Julia shares insights from her extensive background in climate policy and energy innovation, explaining Breakthrough Energy's mission, since its founding in 2015 on the back of the UN Climate Change Conference in Paris, to accelerate the clean energy transition through its network of investment vehicles, policy efforts, and philan...

Feb 26, 202545 minSeason 3Ep. 4

The SAF Podcast: Universal Fuel Technologies - Pick and mix for SAF production

This week Oscar speaks with Alexei Beltyukov, Universal Fuel Technologies, a former medical doctor turned energy entrepreneur, who is now working on scaling the availability of sustainable aviation fuel. Unifuel’s innovative Flexiforming process allows existing petroleum infrastructure—hydrotreaters and reformers—to be repurposed for SAF production, slashing capital expenditures by up to 75% . This drop-in solution not only reduces costs but also enhances feedstock and product flexibility, ensur...

Feb 19, 202540 minSeason 3Ep. 3

The SAF Podcast: Exolum - Throwing SAF a pipeline

In the second episode of The SAF Podcast, we delve into the critical yet often overlooked logistics and supply chain challenges facing the sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) industry with Gorka Penalva from Exolum, a leading pipeline and storage infrastructure company. With nearly 90 years of experience in hydrocarbon logistics and over 6,000 kilometers of pipeline across Spain and the UK, Exolum brings unique expertise to the SAF transportation discussion. Gorka highlights the urgent need for inve...

Jan 29, 202536 minSeason 3Ep. 1

The SAF Podcast: Refuels - Aviation staying on the road to decarbonisation

After a potentially too long break to end 2024. The SAF Podcast is back in 2025, a year set to have significant importance for the burgeoning SAF industry. For our first episode Oscar sits down with Philip Fjeld from Refuels. As the UK and EU SAF mandates take effect in 2025, Fjeld shares valuable perspectives from his decade of experience in the biomethane industry and his role at the Renewable Transport Fuel Association (RTFA). The discussion delves into crucial market dynamics, examining how ...

Jan 22, 202543 minSeason 3Ep. 1

The SAF Podcast: World Energy - Filling aviation's notice boards with (SAF) certificates

In our latest episode we chat with Kathy Wight, Vice President for Net Zero Solutions at World Energy, and how they are leading the charge in decarbonizing business travel and freight. Kathy takes us from her roots in the NGO sphere to her pivotal role in driving practical sustainability solutions, sharing insights from her experience with the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) and the innovative strides in sustainable fuels like SAF (Sustainable Aviation Fuel) and renewable diesel. We find out why ...

Nov 13, 202442 minSeason 2Ep. 29

The SAF Podcast: Avfuel - Challenges of moving SAF from A to B

Join us this week on The SAF Podcast, as we dive deep into the logistics and distribution challenges of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) with CR Sincock from Avfuel, one of the largest global aviation fuel suppliers. As a leading distributor of SAF in business aviation, Avfuel offers unique insights into scaling SAF delivery across the United States. In this episode, Sincock discusses Avfuel's strategic partnership with Neste, the world's largest SAF producer, and reveals their exciting new role ...

Nov 06, 202454 minSeason 2Ep. 29

The SAF Podcast: Jet Zero Australia - Making SAF down under

In this episode of The SAF Podcast, we dive deep into Australia's emerging sustainable aviation fuel landscape with Mac Irvine, CFO of Jet Zero Australia. With 15 years of banking and finance expertise, including his role at the Clean Energy Finance Corporation (CEFC), Irvine offers unique insights into Australia's SAF development landscape. The discussion explores Jet Zero Australia's two flagship projects: Project Ulysses, an alcohol-to-jet facility in Townsville utilizing LanzaJet technology,...

Oct 30, 202450 minSeason 2Ep. 28

The SAF Podcast: S&P Global - Making sure the price is right

On this week’s episode of the SAF Podcast Sophie Byron, Global Head Biofuels Pricing, S&P Global Commodity Insights joins Oscar for a discussion around SAF pricing. Tracking SAF prices is not as simple as traditional jet fuel. In a nascent market with complex supply chain and production pathways, getting accurate pricing data is no easy feat. Sophie explains this complexity and the challenge addressing issues across fluctuating feedstock pricing, production costs and limited transactions on ...

Oct 23, 202437 minSeason 2Ep. 27

The SAF Podcast: OXCCU - Catalyzing change and simplifying the e-fuels equation

In this episode of the SAF Podcast, Andrew Symes, Founder & CEO, OXCCU joins Oscar to dive into the cutting-edge world of e-fuels. A chemistry graduate turned venture capitalist who transitioned to leading a pioneering carbon capture utilization company, Symes discusses OXCCU's groundbreaking catalyst technology that simplifies the conversion of CO2 and hydrogen directly into hydrocarbons. The conversation explores OXCCU's recent milestone: their OX1 demonstration plant, which marks a crucia...

Oct 09, 202438 minSeason 2Ep. 26

The SAF Podcast: Repsol and Spain leading the SAF charge

The Iberian Peninsula's emergence as a SAF production hub isn't coincidental. The region boasts abundant feedstock availability, strong agricultural and livestock sectors, ample renewable energy resources, and a robust refining and petrochemical industry. This combination of factors, along with existing market demand, has created an ideal environment for renewable fuel production. Berta Cabello and Carlos Suarez join us on the podcast from Repsol this week. These industry leaders provide a deep ...

Oct 03, 202452 minSeason 2Ep. 25

The SAF Podcast: Squake - connecting emissions tracking and finance in business

In this episode of the SAF Podcast, Oscar dives deep into the world of sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) and broader decarbonization efforts with Dan Kreibich, co-founder of Squake. Dan shares his journey from Lufthansa Innovation Hub, where he pioneered SAF offerings for passengers, to founding Squake, a platform making SAF and other compensation projects accessible in booking flows. Squake's innovative approach enables airlines, travel companies, and corporations to integrate SAF purchases seaml...

Sep 25, 202443 minSeason 2Ep. 24

The SAF Podcast: EBRD - The art of spreading risk in SAF projects

In this episode of The SAF Podcast , we sit down with Roberto Gonzalez from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) to explore the complexities of financing Sustainable Aviation Fuel (SAF) projects. Roberto takes us through his personal journey from chemical engineering and oil refining to his pivotal role in the EBRD's energy transition team. We discuss EBRD's ambitious goals of achieving over 50% green investments and ensuring alignment with the Paris Agreement, while also ...

Sep 04, 202441 minSeason 2Ep. 23

The SAF Podcast: World Bank - Blended finance and growing emerging markets

In this episode, Oscar had the pleasure of speaking with Binyam Raja, Global Practice Manager for Transport, World Bank. The conversation focused on a crucial aspect of the SAF industry: promoting production in non-OECD countries and expanding the global network of SAF production. Binyam shared valuable insights on the World Bank's efforts to support developing economies in participating in the SAF value chain, highlighting the economic and environmental benefits this could bring. We explored se...

Aug 14, 202447 minSeason 2Ep. 22

The SAF Podcast: GAFT - Rethinking how HEFA finds its lipids

In this episode of the SAF Podcast, Oscar chats with Frank Schreurs, co-founder of GAFT, about the innovative approaches his company is taking to revolutionize sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). Joining us from his holiday in Sweden, Frank provides a detailed look into GAFT's mission and the challenges the aviation fuel industry faces. Frank's career spans over two decades in the energy sector, including significant experience in oil trading, M&A, and biodiesel production. This rich background...

Jul 31, 202443 minSeason 2Ep. 21

The SAF Podcast: CleanJoule - Making the most of what's been granted

On this week's episode Mukund Karanjikar, CEO, CleanJoule joins Oscar on The SAF Podcast to discuss their approach to accessing biomass to create sustainable aviation fuel. Listen in to hear Mukund's thoughts on the debate around the availability of waste biomass as a feedstock to accommodate demand levels and the importance of Carbon Intensity (CI) scores. We also look at the role that government grants have had in helping CleanJoule get to their current stage, since their founding in 2009. Muk...

Jul 17, 202444 minSeason 2Ep. 20

The SAF Podcast: Refining Airbp's SAF strategy

This week on the SAF Podcast, SAF Investor Editor Fayaz Hussain has a conversation with Sven Rieve, Airbp's sustainability advisor. Rieve dives deep into Airbp's strategy for conquering the skies with sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). We explore their current production footprint, the diverse feedstocks used, and the markets they're targeting. The discussion takes off with Airbp's commitment to increasing SAF production capacity in key regions like Europe, the UK, and the US. Rieve sheds light on...

Jul 10, 202439 minSeason 2Ep. 19

The SAF Podcast: FlyORO - The coffee machine of sustainable aviation fuel

This week on The SAF Podcast, Jonathan Yeo, CEO, FlyORO joins Oscar to discuss the operational and supply chain logistic challenges that SAF presents. One of SAF's many benefits is its drop in nature, and ability to work within existing infrastructure. However, currently it still needs to be blended with kerosene. This is not as simple as someone mixing the two together with a large whisk. As Jonathan explains, the precision required to blend SAF and Kerosene to meet certification standards is s...

Jul 04, 202451 minSeason 2Ep. 18

The SAF Podcast: SkyNRG's SAF Market Outlook 2024

Join us in this week's episode of The SAF Podcast as we welcome back SkyNRG as Tom Berg unpacks their latest Market Outlook report. Tom shares the reason why they produce these reports, the meticulous methodology behind their report, which filtered 350 renewable fuel facilities down to 210. We dive into the major themes that appear from the report: Global policy developments and how important it is they develop into regulatory frameworks and the implication on global production opportunities, th...

Jun 19, 202447 minSeason 2Ep. 17
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