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Non-refundable Earnest Money? Just Say No

Sep 08, 202310 minEp. 86
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Summary

Frank Rolfe dissects the pitfalls of non-refundable earnest money in RV park acquisitions. He argues it's a red flag signaling hidden property issues and creates an unfair advantage for the seller, who knows all the flaws. Furthermore, it taints a buyer's decision-making, forcing them into potentially bad deals due to the fear of losing their initial investment, especially given unpredictable financing markets.

Episode description

The standard construction of an RV park purchase contract is for the buyer to put up refundable earnest money, subject to the findings of due diligence and financing. However, some sellers and brokers will float the idea to you of that earnest money being non-refundable on day one. In this RV Park Mastery podcast we’re going to drill down on this concept and why it’s always a bad idea for the buyer.

Transcript

Intro / Opening

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Welcome to the RV Park Mastery Podcast, where you will learn the correct way to identify, evaluate, negotiate, perform due diligence on, renegotiate. Turn around and operate RV parks. And now, here is your host, the fifth largest owner of RV and mobile home parks in the U.S., Frank Raw.

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Standard Earnest Money vs. Non-Refundable

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The typical construction on any RV park deal is that you have a contract signed by both parties. at a title company with earnest money. And that earnest money is refundable if you cancel for any reason during your due diligence or financing provision. But sometimes a seller will say, No, that isn't good enough for me. I want to have non refundable earnest money. What do you do?

Well, this is Frank Roth, the RV Park Mastery Podcast, and we're going to focus on that topic, what happens when the seller wants nonrefundable earnest money.

Red Flags and Buyer Disadvantage

or as some people call it, hard money on the front end of the deal. Well the first problem is that that definitely should be sending you a signal that there's something wrong with the property. Because otherwise, what is a seller so afraid of? If you suddenly on any deal had a paragraph that simply says I'm gonna be doing some diligence and

trying to get a bank loan and you say, oh no, uh gosh, if you're gonna go through those hoops, I I gotta have some some money in advance that can't be refunded. What does that tell you? Tell you that seller believes there's something wrong with their property or that you can't get a loan.

My brother used to work for a large real estate company in New York. One of the assets they owned was a piece of property that used to have a big rail yard on it, and they knew full well that that property really could not be developed very easily.

So what they would do is people would come to them saying I want to buy the big old rail yard property, and they would say, Ah, well if you want the big railroad property, we'll only put it under contract to you with a non refundable earnest money amount of X. And every single time someone took the bait and they did it, guess what?

They never ended up buying it and they lost their earnest money. And the concept was if they repeated it enough and enough and enough, that alone would be the sole income source from that land. But it's a trap typically when someone tells you, Oh yeah, well

I can go ahead and sign your deal and sure I can give you the ability to check out the property and all, but you know your earnest money can't be returned to you. That to us that's just a terrible, terrible sign. Because how can you risk money on something that you don't know yet? Remember that the seller knows everything about the property. They've owned it, they've operated it, they know exactly how many customers they get, they know every flaw and all the infrastructure.

Permitting issues, everything. They know when the flood hits, how many lots get flooded, how deep does it get. They know it all. And what do you know as a buyer on the front end? You don't know anything. So you're walking into this ambush if they want hard money where you are at a complete disadvantage. They have every possible card revealed to them and you don't have any at all. All you know is roughly the name of it and

the numbers that you get from the seller and the location and all. But the seller, he gave you that information. So how without verifying what he's done, can you possibly put hard money behind that? Just doesn't make any sense, right? So since you can't get

the information you need prior to putting under contract and you're relying on the seller for the information, it's safe to say that if they are so afraid of what that information will tell you that you might cancel immediately, that you should not do that. Also, what if it goes beyond your ability? What if it's you can't get a loan because the lending market is screwed up? We all know America right now has got some huge economic problems.

We've got a crazy Fed chairman, Jerome Powell, we've got a crazy administration. We're just one screwed up place right now. And what if, through no cause of your own, you couldn't get the deal completed? You do all the due diligence yourself and that all looks good, but then you go into the financing arena and now suddenly you can't get the bank loan you wanted. Once again, you need the ability to cancel.

It's not fair to you to put on your shoulders all the risk and burden of a financing market that none of us can really control. So you shouldn't do that to yourself. You need to give yourself the freedom to move in and out of deals based on what the market dictates to you. You can't dictate the market and what's going to happen.

That we've got many stories of where people ask of us hard money. And you know what we've done in all these years and thirty years of buying RV parks? You know how many we've done with hard money? And the answer is none. Because we don't like the idea. We don't think it's a fair request for the seller to make to you as the buyer and say, Oh well, you know, uh even though you don't know anything about the property and I do, then even though you have no control over the banking industry.

I'm gonna make you risk your hard earned money just to have the shot at it. We don't think that's a fair way to go. We think that basically the seller is in a much more powerful position than the buyer, and therefore it's not fair of the seller who knows it all to make the buyer bear all of the risk.

Psychological Traps and True Purpose

But there's other problems with hard money even beyond that. Because when you have hard money on the loan, the message it sends to the seller is that you and I have this hurdle, and that is going to go ahead and alter your mental state of whether to cancel or not. And they know that.

So if I had fifteen thousand dollars up in hard money on a deal, and I will go through my due diligence and I go through my financing and things aren't exactly as I hoped they might have been, am I gonna cancel and walk that fifteen thousand dollars? Maybe not. Maybe I'll say, well, I don't really like the deal that much, but I'm going to go forward anyway and buy it. And that is a terrible thing to do. We all have gut instincts deep inside of our brain telling us what to do in life.

It's the sum of all of our lessons learned throughout our lifetime. And when you start swaying that, Blackmailing that, dangling the carrot or the club, that money that you put up, that's going to definitely help make you come to bad decisions. You're gonna be tainting your decision making ability and that's what that hard money does, is it puts you in the unfair position of making decisions that are partly based on the factual f beliefs you have and partly on your fear of losing money.

Now, if you felt for some deal that is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, you just have to do it, then I guess you could do Some hard earnest money, but I would urge you to make it incredibly small. Make it small enough that you can lose that money and still be happy. You would never put up a huge amount that you might find financially crippling.

Or that might mentally make you sad till the end of your life, because that's just not a very healthy balance to do. But there are some deals that pop up from time to time that you believe cannot be replaced. once in a lifetime opportunities. And if all that was holding you back from tying that once in a lifetime opportunity up was putting up five thousand dollars of non-refundable money.

then I guess it would might make sense to you. But unless the amount is very, very small, and unless you can happily move forward with your life after losing it, I don't think I would. Because it's going to potentially change your decision making and get you into a bad deal.

And that's not a fair position for you to ever be in. The whole point of earnest money, in fact, is simply to give liquidated damages to the seller in the event that you don't close, but only after you've looked at the property in full. It's not fair for them to want you to put up money as though you've looked at the property on the front end. They don't need liquidity damages at that point. If I tap your property for a few months and ponder whether to buy it or not, have I really harmed you?

No, I haven't harmed you at all. You're still operating, bringing in the revenue, paying the costs, and keeping the difference, keeping the net income. So you don't need any kind of special liquidation settlement amount. That's only there in cases that the person plows through due diligence and financing and says, hey, I'm going to buy it. And then ties the seller up for a period of time where they can't move forward or do anything with it or sell it or finance it or anything.

And then at that point, if they don't close on it, they've burned through several months and legal costs and closing costs, then it would be appropriate for them to have some kind of surrender cash to reimburse them, but not when you're simply buying it on the front end. Again, the decision is up to you when a seller wants you to do that hard money, that non-refundable earnest money, whether or not you want to take the bait on that or not. But in general, the best decision is probably to pass.

This is Frank for off the RV Park Mastery Podcast. Hope you enjoyed this. Talk to you again soon.

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Thank you for listening to the RV Park Mastery Podcast. Be sure to visit us at www.rvparkmastery.com, where you can learn the correct way to identify, evaluate. Perform due diligence on, renegotiate. Turn around and operate in RV Park.

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