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The Running for Real Podcast

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A collective of conversations that inspire, motivate, and encourage runners who know deep down that the world we want to create already exists. We all play a role in bringing it to life. Join former professional runner and life-long athlete, Tina Muir in this unique running podcast. We do not talk to professional runners about their wins or the Olympics. We do not talk about what shoes to wear or what training is best. Instead, we relate every experience back to you, and love to think hard about the questions you would always love to ask. While we bring on well known guests like Malcolm Gladwell, Reshma Saujani, Ryan Holiday, Des Linden, Michael Gervais, and David Epstein, these are not the same old conversations. This feels more like overhearing two friends talking about the deep conversations that weigh on our hearts daily. Join us in discovering the power of running, why our sport has always been part of humanity, and how we can use it as a tool for realizing our truest self, uplifting our communities, celebrating cultures, and taking care of our Mother Earth.
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Episodes

Tina Muir: End of an Era - R4R 439

Tina has been a podcast host for a decade; first on Runners Connect’s “Run to the Top,” then since 2017 on her own award-winning show, “Running for Real.” Inspiring interviews and deep friendships have come out of the experience, but now, she has decided, it’s time to move on. She’ll be focusing on her passion for environmentalism, especially through her work with Racing for Sustainability, the nonprofit she’s created to help small to mid-sized races become more eco-conscious. For complete show ...

Apr 25, 202524 minEp. 439

Kelly Roberts: If You Lose Joy, We’ve Lost the Battle- R4R 438

Kelly Roberts has inspired other runners by sharing her running journey online since long before the word “influencer” entered the popular lexicon. In Tina’s final interview before “Running for Real” goes on hiatus, she and Kelly reflect on their journeys as trailblazers in social media. While Kelly is Tina’s final guest (at least for a while), she does have one more episode coming up to share some exciting news, so be sure to listen next week! For complete show notes and links, visit our websit...

Apr 18, 20251 hr 6 minEp. 438

Alex Hutchinson: Dream Big and Take Chances - R4R 437

For many writers, the logical followup to a successful book is a sequel. For Alex Hutchinson, it was his reluctance to go down that path that led to his new book, "The Explorer’s Gene: Why We Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map." In it, he examines the ways in which humans’ need to explore is expressed in all areas of our lives. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode437 . Thank you to AG1 for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is...

Apr 04, 20251 hr 8 minEp. 437

Lauren Bash: A Deep Desire to Be Useful - R4R 436

Many people identify themselves as climate activists, but not many would call themselves climate optimists - especially not now. Lauren Bash, however, still finds reasons to be hopeful, and offers ways to combat the environmental crisis centered around the principles of climate action, connection, and community. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode436 . Thank you to AG1 and Precision Fuel & Hydration for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a research...

Mar 21, 20251 hr 9 minEp. 436

Jeffrey McEachern: The Only Way Out Is Through - R4R 435

Ten years ago Jeffrey McEachern found himself at a point in his life where he knew things had to change. He found happiness and purpose through running, became a Peloton instructor, just earned his Six Star Medal at the Tokyo Marathon, and motivates others through his “Good Vibes Crew” community. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode435 . Thank you to Precision Fuel & Hydration and AG1 for sponsoring this episode. Precision Fuel & Hydration he...

Mar 07, 20251 hrEp. 435

Danny Peter Smith: One Day I'm Going to Do That - R4R 434

There’s a time before a race when the crowd settles down and is quiet for a few minutes - during the singing of the national anthem. At last year’s TCS New York City Marathon, that honor was given to Danny Peter Smith. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode434. Thank you to AG1, Precision Fuel & Hydration, and Tracksmith for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a research-backed Daily Health Drink that combines a multivitamin, probiotic, and blend of su...

Feb 21, 20251 hr 11 minEp. 434

Steve Magness: Do Real Things in the Real World with Real People - R4R 433

As runners, we’re always trying to go faster or further because those metrics demonstrate how successful we are. But in his new book, "Win the Inside Game: How to Move from Surviving to Thriving, and Free Yourself Up to Perform," Steve Magness argues that when we measure our worth by our achievements, it backfires, preventing us from reaching our full potential. Photo credit: Hillary Montgomery For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode433 . Thank you to T...

Feb 07, 20251 hr 10 minEp. 433

Olivia Baker: Have Fun - R4R 432

Olivia Baker is a serious runner - her achievements at the high school, collegiate, and professional levels attest to that. She never loses sight of the fact that there’s much more to running than the results on paper though; there’s sportsmanship, camaraderie, inspiration, and most of all, fun. Photo credit: Jan Figueroa For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode432 . Thank you to Runna, AG1, and Tracksmith for sponsoring this episode. Runna is on a missi...

Jan 31, 202555 minEp. 432

Erin Ton: The Only One Climbing Mountains in Heels - R4R 431

Erin Ton holds 91 FKTs (Fastest Known Times), a feat surpassed by only one other woman. In 2023, she returned to the mountains where she first hiked with her family as a child, and summited 57 of Colorado’s Fourteeners in 14 days, smashing the previous record. She stands out on the trails not only for her speed, but also for her attire, often hiking in high heels! For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode431 . Thank you to Precision Fuel & Hydration, ...

Jan 24, 202553 minEp. 431

Erin Taylor: Rest Is a Power Stance - R4R 430

Erin Taylor has been teaching yoga for over twenty years, helping high-performing athletes to excel at their sport. She’s taken what she’s learned from training Olympians and Ironman champions and applied it to other areas of life, not only for elite performers, but for everyone. Her most recent book, “Move, Rest, Recover,” explores one of the most neglected elements of well-being, recovery. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode430 . Thank you to Trac...

Jan 17, 20251 hr 2 minEp. 430

Tina Muir: Be Gentle with Yourself - R4R 429B

As you’ll hear, as of recording, Tina is under the weather. So she’s following the advice that she gives others and being gentle with herself. We’ll be back with a full episode next week! For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode429B . Thank you to Tracksmith, Precision Fuel & Hydration, and Runna for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is an independent running brand inspired by a deep love of the sport. For years the brand has elevated running wear ...

Jan 10, 20255 min

Tina Muir: Going Green In 2025 - R4R 429

Every year at this time, we’re inundated with lists of Things To Do In The New Year. They can be intimidating, and make us feel as though if we don’t accomplish them all, we’ve failed. This isn’t one of those lists. Tina has put together ten tips that you can use to be kinder to the planet this year. They’re easy wins that won’t require too much work. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode429 . Thank you to AG1, Lever, and Runna for sponsoring this epi...

Jan 03, 202533 minEp. 429

Tina Muir: Year End Reflections - R4R 428

As we come to the end of 2024, Tina is looking back on the year that was and looking forward to an exciting 2025! For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode428. Thank you to Tracksmith, Lever, and Precision Fuel & Hydration for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is an independent running brand inspired by a deep love of the sport. For years the brand has elevated running wear using best-in-class materials and timeless silhouettes that perform at the h...

Dec 13, 202435 minEp. 428

Cheryl Toussaint: As Long as There's a Solution, You're Good - R4R 427

Cheryl Toussaint knows the importance of a mentor in young people’s lives. She was just thirteen when she met running coach Fred Thompson, who insisted that his teenage athletes pursue excellence not only on the track, but in school. Under his tutelage, she earned a scholarship to New York University and went on to win Olympic silver at the 1972 Games. Today, as Director of the Colgate Women’s Games, she carries on his mission to inspire and empower young women. For complete show notes and links...

Dec 06, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 427

Nadia Ruiz: You Can Get Here, Too - R4R 426

Nadia Ruiz was only 14 when she ran her first marathon. Since then she’s run 158 more (with 82 BQs), 136 half marathons, 13 half Ironmen, five full Ironmen, multiple ultras… Her parents are her inspiration to share her passion for health and education and to be a role model as a female, a Latina, and a child of immigrants. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode426 . Thank you to Tracksmith, Precision Fuel & Hydration, and Runna for sponsoring this ...

Nov 22, 20241 hrEp. 426

Mike Africa, Jr.: Happiness Is a Choice - R4R 425

Live Aid was THE event of 1985. The concert to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia, viewed by 40 percent of the world’s population, was broadcast live from London and… not New York, not Los Angeles, but Philadelphia. A few months earlier, the city’s police had bombed the home of a revolutionary communal organization, MOVE, killing eleven residents, including five children. The city hoped that by hosting the epic concert, the bombing would be forgotten. It was. Mike Africa, Jr., who lost fa...

Nov 15, 202459 minEp. 425

Election Day - R4R 424

As we all know, Tuesday was Election Day in the United States. It’s the foremost thing on many people’s minds, including Tina’s. Rather than a regular interview episode, she’s sharing her feelings and thoughts about it. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode424 . Thanks for listening! If you haven’t already, be sure to subscribe wherever you’re listening to this podcast. And if you enjoy “Running for Real,” please leave us a review! Keep up with what’s...

Nov 08, 202410 minEp. 424

Rob Simmelkjaer: The Transformative Power of Running - R4R 423

In a 1980s TV commercial, Sy Sperling declared, “I’m not only the Hair Club president; I’m also a client.” That, Rob Simmelkjaer says, describes his role as CEO of New York Road Runners. He hosts NYRR’s podcast, “Set the Pace,” runs with their clubs, takes part in their races, and even participates in their plogging events, all while advancing their mission to build healthier lives and stronger communities through initiatives like their recently launched Team for Climate. For complete show notes...

Nov 01, 202457 minEp. 423

Courtney Phillips-Manning: GumboFit, The Runner’s Club… and Beyond - R4R 422

When there is an opportunity for Courtney Phillips-Manning to share knowledge, especially knowledge that will benefit her community, she seizes - or creates - it. That led her to co-found Chicago’s GumboFit run club, and to launch a podcast, "The Runner’s Club," with Ian Gonzalez. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode422 . Thank you to LEVER, AG1, and Runna for sponsoring this episode. The LEVER system is an innovative way to reduce your body weight w...

Oct 25, 20241 hrEp. 422

Quinton Jacobs: It's Like a Buffet - R4R 421

There have been times in Quinton Jacobs’ running life when he chased PRs and qualifying times. Those were physical seasons. He’s also had mental health and adventure seasons, and seasons of running through other people’s experiences. Sometimes, as in the Escape ultra relays he creates, the seasons merge. Whatever the season, he says, “Running can be such a beautiful reflection of the different phases of your life, if you let it. I've been lucky to be running for well over 20 years. I'm so blesse...

Oct 18, 202459 minEp. 421

Nicole Teeny: Racing Against Horses - R4R 420

Filmmaker and distance runner Nicole Teeny had an unusual item on her bucket list - to race against horses. But when she was diagnosed with epilepsy, she was told that the running part of her life was over. Instead of giving up on her dream, she used it as motivation to return to the sport she loved, a journey documented in the podcast series GIRL v. HORSE , on ESPN’s 30 for 30 Podcast. Photo credit: For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode420 . Thank yo...

Oct 11, 20241 hr 5 minEp. 420

David Roche: Shoot Your Shot - R4R 419

David Roche smashed the 19-year-old course record at the Leadville Trail 100 Run this year. It was the first time that he’d run 100 miles, and even more incredibly, only months after a very different kind of smash. In April, while riding his bike, he was hit by a car and thrown 100 feet through the air and into a ditch, sustaining lacerations, a broken wrist, and a concussion. Far from derailing his training and aspirations, the accident intensified his motivation. For complete show notes and li...

Oct 04, 20241 hr 11 minEp. 419

Adam Popp: Embracing Challenges and Breaking Records - R4R 418

Adam Popp’s life changed when he lost his right leg above the knee while working to disarm a roadside bomb in Afghanistan. He also lost his sense of purpose, until he started running. 19 months after taking his first step on a running blade, he became the first above-knee amputee to complete a 100-mile ultramarathon. After that, the records kept falling; he now holds seven Guinness World Records and is aiming to set more next month while running 24 hours on a treadmill. For complete show notes a...

Sep 27, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 418

Kylee Van Horn & Zoë Rom: Your Diet Sucks - R4R 417

Nutrition is a serious topic, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be entertaining. On their podcast,”Your Diet Sucks,” Kylee Van Horn and Zoë Rom, both endurance athletes, bring humor and curiosity to their examination of why we eat the way we do and how we can reevaluate our relationship to food, backed up by research and science. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode417 . Thank you to Precision Fuel & Hydration, Runna, and Tracksmith for sponsoring t...

Sep 20, 20241 hrEp. 417

Rahsaan "New York" Thomas: When the Law Changes, It Changes for Everyone - R4R 416

In the documentary “ 26.2 TO LIFE ,” Rahsaan “New York” Thomas inspired audiences as he trained to run a marathon behind the walls of San Quentin Prison. He wasn’t only preparing for a race; he was working to become the best person that he could be, even though he knew that he might never go home. He became an acclaimed journalist; producer of the Pulitzer Prize-nominated podcast, “Ear Hustle”; and Executive Director of Empowerment Avenue , a nonprofit established to normalize the inclusion of i...

Sep 13, 20241 hr 1 minEp. 416

Six Missing / TJ Dumser: You Can't Be Anywhere Else but on the Run - R4R 415

Recording as Six Missing, ambient artist TJ Dumser creates music that encourages mindfulness and positive lifestyle habits. He combined both practices through running, but a few years ago, he lost both his love of the run and the mental clarity that came with it. He explores that period of his life in Six Missing’s upcoming project, “Gentle Breath.” Photo credit: Andrea Mendoza For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode415 . Thank you to Runna, Tracksmith,...

Sep 06, 20241 hr 3 minEp. 415

Stefanie Flippin: This Sport Is Not a Solo Sport - R4R 414

Stefanie Flippin is one of the fastest women in the world at the 100 mile distance, but she isn’t exclusively a record-setting ultra runner. She’s also a running coach, writer, co-host of the “Making Strides” podcast, and a board-certified foot and ankle surgeon, who gets as much or more satisfaction from helping others achieve their goals as she does from reaching her own. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode414 . Thank you to Precision Fuel & H...

Aug 30, 20241 hr 9 minEp. 414

Jessie Zapo: Every Pace Has a Place - R4R 413

Jessie Zapo is passionate about creating a space for all runners, and especially about bringing women into the sport. Under her leadership, the adidas Runners community in the US has evolved to be over 60% female, with equal or more representation of women coaches. Girls Run NYC, the women’s running collective that she founded, will be celebrating its 10th anniversary in September. Photo credit: Keith Morrison For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode413 ...

Aug 23, 202459 minEp. 413

Drew Petersen: Paying It Forward - R4R 412

When Drew Petersen ran the Leadville 100 in 2022, he had a mantra written on each hand: “Feel It All” and “Celebrate.” The first one became the title of his new documentary. Feel It All chronicles Drew’s journey from suicidal depression to finding purpose and strength by running the iconic ultramarathon. Drew has already saved lives by sharing part of his story in Ups and Downs . With the release of Feel It All, he hopes to help even more people, and to elevate the conversation around mental hea...

Aug 16, 20241 hr 7 minEp. 412

Aly Criscuolo: Don't Be Afraid to Dream Big - R4R 411

As Sustainability & Corporate Social Responsibility Director at New York Road Runners, Aly Criscuolo is able to channel her passion for environmentalism into positive action. She’s clearly making an impact; NYRR’s latest sustainability initiative, Team for Climate, sold out within two minutes of its launch. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode411 . Thank you to LEVER, Runna, and AG1 for sponsoring this episode. The LEVER system is an innovative w...

Aug 09, 202459 minEp. 411
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