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The RIPE Labs Podcast

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The RIPE Labs Podcast delves into the ideas that matter to the people who operate the Internet. In each episode, we'll be talking to experts from all corners of the Internet community about how the work they do contributes to the good of the Internet and the challenges they face in making sure it keeps running.

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Break Ground! Plant Seeds! Rewild the Internet!

The Internet has long been fertile ground for innovative technologies to grow and openly compete. But having emerged out of these conditions, certain services and the companies that offer them have come to dominate and stifle the very diversity that made their existence possible. Our guest in the episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, Maria Farrell, talks about why we must - and how we can - rewild the Internet. Show notes: 00:00 - Find out more about our excellent guest, Maria Farrell 02:26 - Maria ...

Jun 30, 20251 hr 4 minSeason 5Ep. 5

The Internet Is Not What You Think It Is

What is “the Internet”? And why is it not just our access to a search engine or our favourite social media platform? In this episode, Hisham Ibrahim, RIPE NCC’s Chief Community Officer, breaks down the layers of the Internet ecosystem, explains what a stable and resilient Internet means, and clarifies the difference between digital governance and Internet governance. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Jun 11, 202544 minSeason 5Ep. 4

Making Digital Sustainability Make Sense

The digital infrastructure we're all so dependent on has a negative - and growing - impact on the environment. In this episode, Michael Oghia talks about strategies for breaking down the big problem of digital sustainability, strategies for building a more efficient Internet, and challenges that come with the adoption of more sustainable practices. Show notes 01:40 - Michael on RIPE Labs 08:20 - Our World in Data gives similar numbers for the % of global carbon emissions from the aviation indust...

Apr 30, 202542 minSeason 5Ep. 3

How the Internet Routed Around Damage in the Baltic Sea

When two Internet cables in the Baltic Sea were reported as broken last November, researchers at the RIPE NCC turned to RIPE Atlas to examine the damage. In this episode, Emile Aben discusses what his analysis uncovered about the impact of these and similar incidents in the months that followed, and how the Internet remained resilient against them. Show notes 00:44 - TeleGeography build and maintain massive data sets that are used to monitor, forecast, and map the telecommunications industry. Th...

Mar 31, 202539 minSeason 5Ep. 2

Who Governs Cyberspace?

In this episode, we dive deep into the evolving world of cyberspace and international cybersecurity law with Francesca Bosco from the CyberPeace Institute. As digital threats grow in complexity, how are governments and policymakers responding? What role does civil society play in internet governance? And can a multistakeholder approach truly bridge the gap between technical expertise and legislative frameworks? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Feb 03, 202550 minSeason 5Ep. 1

Detecting Cyber Threats to Critical Systems

It is no longer unusual for Operational Technology systems to be connected to IT systems and the Internet, but this leaves them increasingly open to cyber threats. Daniel Kapellmann, Security Engineering Manager at Google Threat Intelligence, talks about how convergence of OT with IT systems amplifies risk and what’s involved in detecting threats. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 19, 202435 minSeason 4Ep. 10

Embracing Neurodiversity in the Internet Community

Overcoming the various challenges involved in keeping the Internet running calls for different ways of thinking about those challenges. In this episode, Rob Lister talks to us about how and why the technical community can and should embrace neurodiversity. Back in May 2024 at RIPE 88, Rob Lister (Senior Network Engineer at LONAP) opened up to the community about his experience of having been diagnosed with ADHD during COVID. We talked more about how the Internet community can support neurodivers...

Nov 26, 202422 minSeason 4Ep. 9

Patching Internet Vulnerabilities with RPKI

The White House recently announced plans to boost Internet routing security in the US through better RPKI coverage. So how does RPKI help secure BGP? How easy is it to boost coverage on a national level? And what's the future potential of the infrastructure? Our guest Tim Bruijnzeels shares his views. Tim is Principal Software Engineer for RPKI at the RIPE NCC and has worked in standards development and software implementation around RPKI for well over a decade. He talked to us about where RPKI ...

Oct 10, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 8

Developing the DNS Under Pressure

Being at the core of the Internet places the DNS under a lot of pressure. New forms of DNS abuse emerge each year, disputes over domain names persist, and all the while, the Internet just keeps getting bigger. Mikhail Anisimov from ICANN talks about the coordinated effort involved in meeting these challenges and shares his views on DNS in Central Asia. As one of the organisations at the core of the Internet that works to coordinate the supply of Internet numbers and domain names, ICANN plays a v...

Sep 02, 202445 minSeason 4Ep. 7

Defining a Responsible Internet

For many, the Internet is essentially a black box. We connect with endpoints to send and receive data, but we have little insight into what happens in between. Dr Paola Grosso talks about how the CATRIN project seeks to provide more visibility and control so we can make more responsible decisions on how we traverse the Internet. Show notes: 02:17 – Paola’s UvA profile 04:21 – CATRIN project homepage 04:44 – UPIN project announcement 06:00 – Partners in the CATRIN project are listed at the bottom...

Jun 28, 202434 minSeason 4Ep. 6

From Academia to Internet: Pioneers of EARN, NSFNET and RIPE

In this episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, three Internet pioneers talk about how they helped grow the Internet out of its early infancy, back when its purpose - and much of the excitement around its development - lay in the promise of connecting researchers from around the world. ___ Show notes: 00:03:22 - Daniel Karrenberg about the EUnet , the first pan-European Internet Service Provider (ISP) 00:11:18 - Dennis Jennings about his first encounter with networking and the birth EARN 00:17:40 - Da...

May 20, 20241 hr 28 minSeason 4Ep. 5

Internet Privacy and the Cost of Losing Control

Internet users, the companies who sell us our devices, and governments are all caught up in the struggle to protect our privacy. In this episode, Bert Hubert explains how outsourcing and other market forces determine the flow of control over online data and why we need to understand the consequences. Show notes: 01:00 - PowerDNS 01:04 - I highly recommend Bert’s excellent blog berthub.eu !! 02:42 - Bert on joining TIB (oversight board for the Dutch intelligence and security services) 02:58 - Ber...

Apr 25, 202456 minSeason 4Ep. 4

Starlink and the Future of Low-Orbit Internet

Starlink's megaconstellations deliver broadband Internet to customers around the globe. But while the tech promises to democratise Internet access, it's not always clear how existing protocols and regulations apply beyond the clouds. In this episode, Geoff Huston talks about the future of low-orbit Internet. Show notes: 02:20 - APNIC Labs Starlink measurements and Geoff’s podcast on LEOs and TCP 08:50 - Geostationary orbit 09:48 - Project Iridium 14:40 - Starlink 29:50 - See more from Geoff on m...

Mar 28, 20241 hr 3 minSeason 4Ep. 3

Something's Wrong on the Internet

The Internet is hardly foolproof in its design, and whether by accident or on purpose, the people who use and operate it sometimes don't do things they should or do do things they shouldn't. Qasim Lone talks about strange goings on he's investigated and how RIPE Atlas can help researchers in the field. 01:00 - RIPE Atlas 01:53 - SLAC 02:59 - Read Qasim on Why SAV is Still a Problem 04:37 - Other research from Qasim and colleagues on SAV 06:02 - RFCs 2827 and 3704 describe SAV implementation 06:3...

Feb 29, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Ready or Not - Rethinking Cybersecurity for a Post-Quantum World

Quantum technologies promise all kinds of fascinating possibilities, but they also come with risks. In this episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, André Grilo, founder and CEO of QuantumNova, talks about why we need to start investing in post-quantum cryptography to protect ourselves against post-quantum threats. 01:17 - QuantumNova 05:08 - Shor’s algorithm 11:07 - Post-quantum cryptography 14:02 - NIST selected 4 post-quantum security algorithms 16:00 - EU’s programme to support companies to transit...

Jan 23, 202431 minSeason 4Ep. 1

The Historical Record of the Internet

Understanding outages and shutdowns and how the Internet as a whole came to be vulnerable to, and also resilient against, these kinds of events requires more than a snapshot of the current state affairs. In this episode, Jim Cowie talks about how historical measurement data can help us acquire a better understanding of the Internet. 01:40 - There's a nice, short introduction to Jim and his background right here . 03:11 - RIPE RIS 04:50 - Jim on the 2011 outage in Egypt 07:05 - Jim has since conf...

Dec 21, 202340 minSeason 3Ep. 6

Frugal Computing for a Sustainable Internet

Anastasiya Pak talks to Professor Wim Vanderbauwhede - lead of the Low Carbon and Sustainable Computing activity at the School of Computing Science of the University of Glasgow - about the carbon footprint of the ICT industry, misleading narratives around digitalisation, and why the notion of frugal computing is needed to move forward. 05:49 – The split of ICT emissions - 54% home, 19% data centres, 27% networks - is taken from the "Carbon impact of video streaming" white paper by the Carbon Tru...

Oct 30, 202347 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Mapping the Geopolitical Internet

Mapping the dialectical relationship between the Internet and rivalries of power and influence across territories calls on expertise from a variety of disciplines. On the RIPE Labs Podcast, Louis Pétiniaud discusses how he and colleagues at GEODE are investigating the geopolitical Internet. 01:14 - The GEODE website where you can also find a list of researchers at the GEODE center 01:24 – Here's the most recent article from the GEODE team on RIPE Labs (runner up in the RIPE Labs article competit...

Aug 01, 202327 minSeason 3Ep. 4

To Serve the Board

What it means to serve as a RIPE NCC Executive Board member has changed dramatically in the twelve years since Christian Kaufmann first took on the role. Gone are the days of quick board meetings over an afternoon cup of coffee. Now – with recent years having seen organisational change, the pandemic, sanctions regulations, and war - the board is increasingly called upon to make decisions that impact not only the future of the RIPE NCC, but people's access to the Internet in countries across the ...

Jun 14, 202324 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Best Practices for a Resilient Internet in Times of War

In this episode of the RIPE Labs podcast, we talk about how the war has changed the way the Internet community in Ukraine works, the pressure companies and individuals are under to keep this absolutely vital resource running, and the practices that have been adopted to make sure people stay connected. 16:32 - Voluntary transfer lock policy proposal 20:40 - BCOP TF session at RIPE 86 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

May 22, 202327 minSeason 3Ep. 2

In Defence of BGP

BGP is the Internet's de facto routing protocol - but it's also one with many vulnerabilities and is only deeply understood by a relatively small fraction of people. Delving into the threats posed by misconfigurations and prefix hijacks, Lefteris Manassakis looks at the history and evolution of BGP and discusses the importance of mitigation, monitoring and detection as provided by ARTEMIS and CodeBGP. 00:51 - ARTEMIS is a system that enables network operators to monitor, detect and mitigate the ...

May 18, 202352 minSeason 3Ep. 1

How Sanctions Obstruct Access to the Internet

Economic sanctions have a very clear but complicated impact on people's access to the global Internet. In this episode, I talk to Dr Farzaneh Badiei from Digital Medusa about how sanctions obstruct access to the Internet. 01:25 - Read this article from Chris Buckridge announcing the independent research project on sanctions to be carried out by Digital Medusa . 01:50 - Full recording of the session at RIPE 85 . 02:30 - Go check out Digital Medusa . 02:50 - More from Farzaneh on sanctions and rel...

Dec 21, 202228 minSeason 2Ep. 4

RIPE IPmap - Geolocating Routes Across the Internet

Geolocation providers usually focus on locating end user devices at the edge of the Internet. But what about the machines that make up the infrastructure in the middle? In this episode, I talk to Chris Amin about RIPE IPmap - an API developed by the RIPE NCC to do geolocate core Internet infrastructure. The idea behind RIPE IPmap actually goes way back. Emile Aben first presented on it at RIPE 67 in 2013 and there’s an article on RIPE Labs from around the same time. You can see its development o...

Dec 06, 202236 minSeason 2Ep. 3

The Internet in Central Asia

Although the state of the Internet in Central Asia is in some ways diverse across the region, certain shared geographical, political, and technical factors create unique challenges for local Internet communities. Ahead of the first Central Asia Peering and Interconnection Forum (CAPIF 1), we caught up with Shavkat Sabirov to talk about digitalisation in the region and the need to form a Central Asian Internet community. Shavkat Sabirov is President of the non-profit Association of legal entities...

Nov 03, 202238 minSeason 2Ep. 2

RIPE - Coordination in the Space Between the Networks

At start of the 90s, a small group of people came together to make sure that the numbering system that allows computers to connect with each other over the Internet would remain stable. One those people was Mirjam Kühne, now RIPE Chair. In this episode, Mirjam talks about the beginnings of the RIPE community and new challenges it faces today. 1:06 – More about RIPE 4:18 – Meet the New RIPE Chair 5:16 – Daniel Karrenberg on the first hours of the RIPE NCC 8:00 – A Tribute to Rob Blokzijl 9:35 – R...

Oct 20, 202242 minSeason 2Ep. 1

The Case for Revitalising Internet Governance

Are the organisations that form the Internet governance ecosystem failing to rise to new challenges the modern Internet has created? And if so, what steps need to be taken in order to revitalise Internet governance? Joining me to discuss these issues in depth are Kieren McCarthy (journalist and Internet governance expert) and Chris Buckridge (Advisor to the RIPE NCC Managing Director on issues of Global Strategic Engagement and member of the IGF's multistakeholder advisory group). 00:37 - Revita...

Jul 27, 202247 minSeason 1Ep. 6

Revealing Bias in Internet Measurements

The analysis Pavlos and his colleagues are carrying out is part of the AI4NetMon project that aims to deliver methods for reducing biased findings from Internet measurement infrastructures. The platforms under investigation include RIPE NCC operated services RIPE RIS , RIPE Atlas , RIPEstat and also RouteViews . 01:20 - Pavlos's winning article on Bias in Internet Measurement Infrastructures 01:37 - About the Data and Science Laboratory ( DataLab ) 02:53 - More on the RIPE Routing Information Se...

Jun 29, 202225 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Approaching the RIPE Gender Data Gap

Measuring the gender data gap isn't always easy, but getting a clearer picture of where we're at is important. At RIPE 84, Anastasiya Pak caught up with Shane Kerr to talk more about measuring the gender gap at RIPE Meetings. In this episode, they discuss the goals and challenges around attempts to understand the RIPE gender data gap. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 09, 202234 minSeason 1Ep. 4

RIPE Atlas: A Distributed View of the Internet

Twelve years ago the RIPE NCC set out to build the largest Internet measurement network ever made. Today, RIPE Atlas gives users an unprecedented understanding of the state of the Internet. I caught up with Robert Kisteleki (R&D Manager, RIPE NCC) to talk about how RIPE Atlas has developed thanks to the efforts of the community. (Watch the video on Youtube .) RIPE Atlas website RIPE Atlas on RIPE Labs 02:53 - RIPE Atlas probe map 03:10 - HTTP , DNS , NTP measurements 03:57 - RIPE Atlas archi...

May 17, 202234 minSeason 1Ep. 3

Keep Ukraine Connected

The Global NOG Alliance is actively working to help keep the Ukrainian Internet connected. On 13 April, they delivered their first shipment of vital hardware into the country. I caught up with the team to talk about how the first delivery went, how this got started, and what's coming next. You can watch the full video of this episode over on RIPE Labs . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 27, 202233 minSeason 1Ep. 2
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