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The Future of WWE’s Released Superstars. Plus, How Good Will John Cena vs. Randy Orton Be?

May 05, 20251 hr 20 min
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David and Kaz dissect the latest WWE releases, pondering missed opportunities and future paths for released talent. They preview Cena vs. Orton, debating nostalgia vs. match quality, and pitch hilarious wrestling jewelry concepts. Plus, they analyze SmackDown's evolving storylines and Raw's upcoming matches.

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COLD OPEN QUESTION OF THE WEEK: What would you rather watch—a documentary about Darby Allin doing kickflips on Mt. Everest, or Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff’s new wrestling venture (0:32)? David and Kaz kick off the week discussing the WWE releases that took place over the weekend and which names surprised them most (4:59). They break down ‘SmackDown,’ in which the Naomi–Jade feud is now part of the WWE Women’s Title picture (37:37), and give a temperature check on the upcoming WWE Backlash showdown between John Cena and Randy Orton (39:50). Later, they preview ‘Raw,’ featuring Rusev vs. Otis and Roxanne Perez vs. Women’s World Champion Iyo Sky (53:30). Finally, they close with a fun question: What wrestling-themed jewelry would they create (1:02:40)? Be sure to check out our videos on BlueSky, TikTok, Instagram Threads, and X.Hosts: David Shoemaker and Kazeem Famuyide Producer: Brian H. Waters Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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rest area. Mhm. Or Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan's new amateur professional wrestling venture. I got two things to say before I answer both of those questions. One. If I was Tony Khan, I'd be averaging at least four. What in the fuck are you doing? Text to Darby Allin. Every single day. Darby can be like, there was no reception on the peak, you know? I couldn't even get your message, man. What the fuck are you doing? Why? Why?

Well, whatever, man. I'm not gonna shit on anybody's dreams. Bye, once again. Climb a mountain and that's their lifelong goal and dream in life. Have at it. Can't stop me from asking me what the fuck you're doing every single day. That's one. And two, my thoughts on MAGA Forthroper as follows. uh you know hulk hogan and eric bischoff have a spotty track record as far as promotions are concerned like one wild success over 83 weeks and another

Rough showings. But you know what? I'll say this. I will say this. I would much rather watch a documentary of Darby Allin climbing Mount Everest. Oh, that's not what I was expecting. For the simple fact that... There's more of a chance of death. than probably the mag of fourth rope. And it's, you know.

that's always more interesting to watch i guess uh but in the same instance uh the freestyle wrestling federation whatever hogan and bischoff are doing it does seem like a legitimate sport entity does seem like a legitimate like foray into a form of combat sports that

I guess not even Hulk Hogan and his creative control and his creativity can mess up, right? Like at the end of the day, they're real wrestlers and they gotta wrestle, but it's just not my cup of tea. Darby Allin climbing a mountain and doing kickflips and stuff on there. I'll watch it. I'll watch it just because I want to see this dude survive and come out of it and see if he actually makes it because, you know.

Interesting as hell, but at the same time, still asking him what the F is he doing every single day and why aren't you wrestling for my organization? I agree with you on the what are you doing part. I'm not sure if I agree on the even Hogan can't mess this up part of the freestyle wrestling. Even as wild, that doesn't work for me, brother. You can't, that doesn't work for me, brother. A real fight, a real wrestling match, right? Yeah, but there's a reason why.

professional wrestling is a big thing and you know real wrestling is a thing that wrestlers kids do in high school you know i mean it's obviously there's a lot of olympians and everything else and more power to them but It smells like a Gable Stephenson lightning spot, doesn't it? They're going to make him there like LeBron James. They said that he inspired them to do this. Watching him in the Olympics or whatever got him to, I mean... I get it.

I get it. Yeah, go for it. But I'll be honest, man. As a man who loves as much professional wrestling, watching amateur wrestling, Not nearly as entertaining. No, that's kind of the point. I mean, it's not even the same thing. But, you know, there's a lot of real sports out there that don't have professional leagues that don't, you know.

I don't know, man. I did this as a cold open because there's only so much we can talk about it without boring ourselves. So let's end the cold open question of the week segment and start the show. Tradition that no one really looks forward to. Nope. It's a time-honored tradition that nobody likes.

but we gotta do it yeah yeah um i mean what would you say your level of just dispiritedness was when all these announcements are coming down compared to previous years I feel like there is a vibe that this year people were more downbeat than normal, but maybe I'm wrong. i don't know i would say what was it the 2020 releases that were like that felt like a bloodbath oh yeah like alistair black and

Adam Cole, these guys. I don't even know if it was Adam Cole, but I just remember like 2020. There were just massive, massive, massive playoffs. And, you know, as much as these releases are... And I hate just saying, you know Being a wrestler in WWE has got to really be all rough, right? Because it's one thing to just lose a job. It's a whole other thing to like, the entire world just knows you lost. Your dream job, man.

You know that doesn't ever seem fun um however uh you know there's there's certain folks that were on that list that you can kind of tell the writing was kind of on the wall with them you know like when people start being used a lot less or Even the folks that I felt had great futures, but had sudden shifts in creative. It didn't surprise me that those names were left on. like Cora Jade, like Jakar Jack. like Betty Thorpe, Dakota Kai, and these are all just wonderful.

talents in my opinion and people that I just like as people so it does suck to hear that they got released but

The one thing that's really been a lot downbeat, I think the reason why you feel like it's been downbeat more is that it doesn't seem like the end of the world anymore when WWE talents get released, right? Like, there's literally... A whole world out there that released WWE talents have had great success outside of and have been successful as performers creatively, have been successful as independent contractors and independent wrestlers.

gone to AEW and had some great success there at TNA. You know, there's lots of places, New Japan, lots of places that a lot of these talents have gone to and done some great work. And kept themselves busy and popping. And in a lot of cases found their ways back into WWE.

So I think that's a reason why a lot of people aren't terribly like, oh man, this sucks. We'll never hear from these people again. In years past, the one reason why I would hate these massive release days is because everybody treated it like it was a funeral. and like people are dead or something like that it's like it sucks Nobody wants to go through it, but you're gonna be okay. If that's what you want to do. If you want to stay in that industry. Yeah. Spent enough time in WWE to have a nice

Layer of options to continue success over there. So I don't think I'm not too hung up on it Especially given the names that were released, but it does I mean that's you as a human on a human a human level It's never fun. But at the end of the day, most of these people who put their minds to it usually end up being okay. Yeah, I think that's true, especially in an era where, you know, with social media and all that kind of stuff, I mean, there's a lot of these people that were released.

who I feel like we know better from social media than we know from their on-screen product, right? And that is, if nothing else, I think kind of helps the... will help their journey outside of wwe right i mean people are it's not like dakota kai is like playing a zombie and now has to go like change her name i mean she'll have to change her name but like re-emerges a whole new character

You know, I mean, she's going to still be functionally if she wants to be the same character. So there's a continuity there and she gets to take a lot of fans with her. I mean, I mentioned, I guess I should read off the whole list here. Okay. Braun Strowman, Korra Jade, Dakota Kai. Danny Palmer, Eddie Thorpe, my favorite professional wrestler. Maybe that's why it's hitting harder than normal, because Eddie's on there. Gigi Dolan, Jakara Jackson.

Javier Bernal, Joe Coffey, Katana Chance, Caden Carter, Joe Coffey, Mark Coffey, Wolfgang. Those are all listed out of order here, but obviously going to go together. Katana Chance, Caden Carter. Romance, uh, Riley Osborne and Shayna Baszler. Um,

Jakara and Oromensa were part of the metaphor breakup which happened on TV last week. It was kind of odd. Braun Strowman was feuding with the LA Knight and and for the u.s title up until right at the cusp of wrestlemania so obviously and he's such a huge figure for them um Katana Chance and Caden Carter, you know, got some run as a tag team on the main roster.

Gigi Dolan was on TV on NXT last week, I think. I mean, she's obviously been part of that group. Along with Gigi Dolan, they also announced they're not renewing Shotzi Blackheart's contract, which I guess she probably saw coming. I mean, in terms of just like shockiness. I would say...

Man, this is kind of hard to rank. I think that weirdly Cora Jade, despite being in developmental, is the most shocking, even though... never well even though they functionally gave her spot away to julia when they called up julia and roxanne perez and put them together as little heel running buddies i mean that was that was pretty much gory jade's role so maybe the writing was on the wall i mean i'm not gonna I mean, talent and upside totally aside, it did seem like she had a real career.

um dakota kai you know was wrestling for the for the uh women's for the women's ic title fairly recently um She's got, she's pretty shocking too, although she's hurt again. I mean, there's a uniting theme to some of these is people who are like, had persistent injury issues. Cora Jade, for the record, is not really one of those. She blew out her name one time and took a long time coming back.

and there's some age and some of these some of these people are older than you think um you know there's obviously when developmental there's always a lack of progress or like you know insufficient progress and i think that that was um There's some of those stories that are tied to Cora Jade, but I'm sure it could be true of just about anybody. I don't know, man. I mean, it's a tough list. And I think...

Yeah, I mean, you know, what really struck me was a dude on Twitter, Andrew Dice Clay. I-A-N Drew Dice Clay. who I follow had a good tweet where he said, I don't think there's ever been this many people at the same level with the same ceiling as you have right now in wrestling. That's why so many people are dispensed.

Um, and then he also, he goes on to say, yeah, WWE and AEW are packed with wrestlers playing at safe. Where do you go to reinvent yourself in 2025? We'll get into the second half of that. But the first half I thought was pretty, was pretty smart. I mean.

there's it wasn't that long ago that Korra Jade was seen as a you know potential future super duper star but like in it but even like five six years ago if she walked in the door of the pc would have been immediately tabbed as the next But there's just so much talent around now that you're going to be compared to.

that i think that we're back to that conversation we have and we're talking about really looking for super duper like maximum upside i don't know i did a little experiment where i tried to where i went through the roster nxt and main roster in wwe and tried to and and and to see how many people were like legit

wrestlemania main eventer had a legitimate wrestlemania main event ceiling ceiling like so taking into account that some of these people aren't already there the list was actually way longer than i thought right because this is just back in the napkin i'm sure i've missed like 20 But just right off the top, Punk, Cody, Roman, Rollins, Eosky.

I mean, some of these are you can argue with, but things I truly believe. Eoskai, Tiffany Stratton, Montez Ford, Obafemi, Steph Aker, Julia, Ricky Saints, Aleister Black. Becky Lynch, Bianca Belair, Braun Breaker, Drew McIntyre, Gunther, Javon Evans, and Rhea Ripley. That was my 1A. And then you can make... Slightly lower 1B cases, Randy Orton, Pinta, Ray Phoenix, Sammy Zane, Kevin Owens, Dragunov, Dom Mysterio, Jacob Fatu, Roxanne Perez, Carmelo Hayes, Julius Creed.

Friend of the show, Ludwig Kaiser, he had to be on there. But it's, I mean, when you have that many people who have you just said, we're going to spend a year putting him or her in the WrestleMania main event and you can do it. it's I mean it's crazy how much talent there is right now and basically everybody else is just floating around at one sea level you know I mean there's so much there's so much time

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's too much talent out there, you know. Maybe Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff should start a wrestling company. You know, we got all the talent for it.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy, but it is really sad when people get let go. And I think that the thing that people get most upset about, and justifiably so, is that it's like mid-contract releases, right? I mean, you would... don't understand exactly i think what people get i think what people get more upset is that these announcements usually come right after announcing like some record-breaking gas and then saying like hey nothing personal is but

yeah or uh we're just not gonna renew the contract which i mean well i think it'd be less of a big deal if they were just not renewing contracts but they're cutting people in the middle of a contract yeah yeah I think if they were just like, hey, we're not going to do anything with you, you can take a 50% buyout and go home or you can hang around and keep cashing your check and not doing anything. That would be a different story.

you know these wrestlers make pretty good money but a lot of the ones in developmental it's not like they're like already set for life or anything you know it's a pretty significant financial situation for any human being i wouldn't say any of them are stuff for life especially the nxt contracts from what i do yeah you know like it's it's good money but it's not like hey you know it's not braun stroman money i'll tell you that like when i'm looking and when i'm looking through the

uh instagram stories of people who just got recently released the only person that was on the yacht saying i might just retire here is braun stroman he's made a ton of money and uh i don't think he's He's not in the same situation as Cora Jade is or even Dakota Kai is. So, I mean, I'll say this, man. Like... Yeah, I think that the point about ceilings being at the same level as so many people couldn't be more appropriate because I always say this on the show.

i always say this just in wrestling in general wrestling isn't about wins and losses and titles none of that it's all about positioning positioning positioning positioning the real estate that you take up on tv the the place that you're put on the card like the role that you play All that stuff is infinitely more important than wins, losses, titles, cool moves, all that stuff as far as employability.

WWE and the list of those folks even up to the super established people like Shayna Baszler and Braun Strowman People even though that they were very well recognized you can tell by their positioning that they were probably on their way out. It's true. I feel like we've talked over and over again about different pieces of that WrestleMania.

and who won and who lost that should have signaled something to us. And as a person who asked why isn't Braun Strowman in this US title match at WrestleMania over and over again, I guess that should have been a signal to me. But, you know, Braun's had his injuries. He's an older guy. I mean, like you understand some of the logic. It just does feel sort of heartless, like you said, coming on the heels of the record-breaking profit. And again, these are mid.

mid-contract cuts, right? You're not saying we're not, we've chosen not to, like, the Shotzi Blackheart thing is sad, but it's also, like, her contract was up. They told her they weren't going to renew it. You know, that's how, that's how every day, everybody's life works, right? But doing it in the middle of the contract is just rough. I'm sure nobody at WWE takes great pleasure in it. They're not sitting around watching people getting fired on a hidden camera and laughing or whatever.

But it's just... It's not ideal. Um... It's, um... There's no good timing for it. It's almost like every year we expect these first WrestleMania cuts to happen. There's not going to be a good timing for it in a period where WWE is making record profits. They can't...

Just the fact that it came on the heels of WrestleMania is not incredibly meaningful because it's not like in August they'd be able to make the claim poor any better. But... it's you know it's funny oh you know i was thinking is that i mean remember when vince let brett go to wcw and the entire thing was vince was just like yeah i just can't pay your contract i think there's actually I'm not sure whether or not he can actually pay Brett's contract.

but that's like a 10 year like 10 like it was more actually talking to brett but it but it was yeah it was like a 10 year 10 million dollar contract is the way it's been reported and and vince basically signed this deal to keep him from leaving and then at some point was like wow i could not afford like that's that was a terrible investment you know like whatever it's not that wasn't a wise thing to do and decided to get out of it um But it's like...

Even in WWE's retelling, that doesn't paint Vince in a particularly good life. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, oh, he made a bad business decision and then he had to scramble to find his way out of it and he tricked Eric Bischoff or whatever into signing him for all this money and blah, blah, blah. But that's basically what's going on here, right? I mean, it's... It's we've signed you to this contract and we've decided it's not in our best business interest to fulfill it.

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up to 60% off hotels and up to 50% lights. Book it with Pricing. Who do you think of all these cuts? Is there anybody that stands out to you as somebody who is like, WWE just dropped the ball on them like they could have been a super duper star if only given the opportunity? I mean I did think that metaphor, especially in the women's tag team division, had something going.

with uh jakara jackson the last legend uh i thought that could have been something super duper star maybe not but maybe definitely you know a nice elevation into that division and sort of work them in there but i don't think they You know? dakota kai again uh i don't know if she'd be a super duper star but again somebody who i think could have been a very strong uh character on main roster television but i'll be honest man i don't think we'd be

With zero disrespect to the people that were just released because I don't want to come off callous, especially around this time. I don't think there were any Cody Rhodes slash Drew McIntyres in this. group of releases right like i'll be happy to be proven wrong and i'm sure i will be eventually But, you know, there's certain people that get released and they're like, oh man, they could have done so much more.

person and um i don't know i mean gallus i feel like gallus had like a good little run uh in nxt and nxt uk yeah i mean kind of more than i expected but yeah Right, but I never really expected them to be like megastars stateside, but who knows if you replace Dallas with what was the name of rich holland and pete dunn's crew i forgot the name of them um the brawling broods or the brawling broods you know what i mean like maybe maybe you know what i'm saying uh but

in the same time you know one of eddie thorpe's last promos was uh calling brian pillman jr uh alexis king an entitled white man trying to take something that this is and for that alone That man will have my respect, but I don't necessarily think that, you know. There are guys that are going to be main event, guys or girls, that will be main eventing WrestleMania if they do come back. I do think there's probably two or three of these folks that will find their way back into WWE eventually.

But as like main event, top tier people, they'd have to do some incredible reinvention on their own and the independent. for that to even happen as they're currently constructed that's the beautiful that's the beautiful thing about these these big releases kind of go and just figure it out on their own i i personally would love to see braun stroman like go to japan if he still wants to wrestle he made a ton of bread already but i'd love to see braun stroman go to japan and just be

This massive, like, megastar. You know what I mean? Like, this big hoss of a person. and just sort of like take over there. I always thought that would be really cool. I think that's a way, you know, big hulking Americans. I go to Japan It's almost like they get a new coat of seasoning or some new street crap by the time they come back.

they're like oh no this guy's the effing truth like you can't tell me braun stroman spending like two or three years in new japan doesn't garner the same buzz as like uh bronson reid or jeff cobb or any of these guys like when they would when they became free agents you know what i'm saying so uh i don't know but i still i still think a little far It'll be tough to see how these people sort of bounce back as far as

Becoming mega mega mega stars. I don't like using the word fumble i think fumbles overused and the pro wrestling well i mean listen you can take all this stuff to an extreme right But when you're looking at people who are just like, well, you know, even if you try to rationalize from WWE's point of view, yeah, they were getting on in years. Yeah, they kept getting injured.

I mean, obviously these aren't hard and fast rules, but if they were hard and fast rules, we wouldn't have gotten Stone Cold Steve Austin, right? Because he was getting on in ears and blew out both of his knees and broke his neck.

you know like and and and that was like and he only got more popular he only made them more money you know and even in the i mean listen not everybody's gonna have that literally it's impossible to position everybody at the top of the card and that's one of these conversations that we always have indirectly or directly but

but we saw like we said before i'll see him punk's injury when he came back ended up being the best thing possible for business you know um so there's a lot i mean the injury but i get it these are professional athletes if you're constantly getting injured Like in any sport, there's a point where you got to decide to cut bait.

you know actually you know what brian h waters you get on the mic brian who made you which release made you the saddest you're the you're the emotional you're the emotional component of this podcast Wow, the emotional component of this podcast. Where is a bunch of wrestling robots over here? Oh, boy. Honestly? It was Jakar Jackson. And mainly because of everything that was going on with the metaphor.

But when I saw the split, I said, okay, because I always say I see money in Lash Legend, but I wanted to see them have a tag run and kind of the way I want to see what the street profits. I don't want to see a breakup. I just want to see like an ally. I want to say this is, I mean, maybe this is a little in the weeds. I totally. I mean, I think Lash Legend is the star of that tag team.

but i think with all these future stars you got to be careful about the kind of push they get i think those two showing up as a tag team on their main roster and letting everybody in the crowd go oh we want Lash Legend. We want Lash Legend to be like that. It feels like that is a, that could be a much.

more i don't want to say safer but a much more even more direct route to putting her in the main event scene than to have her show up as a single and everybody just have and then give her the same push they give everybody else you know i mean it's just

I don't know. I also still was always holding out hope that they put them together with Charlotte, but yeah. Yes! Yeah. I thought that could have been really cool, but nah, man, like, yeah, I kind of agree with you. I definitely wanted to see... metaphor as a tag team sort of especially since they've they sort of like picked the ball up when um

my god nolan dar got hurt you know you know really could have most stable sort of would have fell by the wayside but they kind of gotten better and got more popping and you know they had a lot of main roster you know uh Cameos that made me think all right. They're just they'll be good to go eventually so to see what I'm like go sucks, but Yeah, man, I mean shoot

Lash Legend. I mean, it's one of those things where it's like it sucks for, or really sucks with Jakara Jackson, but it definitely shows you how much they have belief in Lash Legend.

to break up metaphor and you know i mean straight up release her tag team partner like you would hope that they have you know the highest of of expectations and hope for her and she's done nothing but like be massively impressive every time she's been on on tv so uh yeah it does suck but there's opportunities there now for people in the same vein as um you know shana basil's tag team partner Zoey Stark. Zoey Stark, yeah. Now there's these opportunities.

where you know uh she's gonna have to sing or swim too i mean she's gonna she's that's sort of the under-reported part of this is everybody who has sort of left the last person standing or whatever the the ex-tag team partners i mean it's not you could say yeah lash legend's gonna be primed for greatness but you know they now she's in an uncomfortable situation or unusual situation and and she's in a real sink or swim the same thing for

Uh, with damage control and Kairi Sane, you know, EO's gonna be fine, but you know, Kairi should be back soon, and now she's kind of on her own, and... Lash is on her own. Zoe's on her own. Noamdar's on his own. I mean, he's one of the best wrestlers in the company and is sort of one of the... I mean... just back from an injury, and this is what he gets to come back to, you know? Roxanne Perez and Julia became besties overnight, and I guess that explains why.

So it's like everybody's sort of now being asked to jump in. see how high it could fly you know what i mean so kind of it's I hate it for the releases, but you always kind of got to look at these things as a glass half full sort of situation and see what it means for the other folks that they've been entrenched with. So, you know, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Unfortunate but there's too many examples of people reaching immense success after WWE for me to be like

Really sucks. Hope it works out. It's going to work out. I hope people when they sign contracts now Especially the vets coming back. Yeah. Take a look at the examples of Dakota Kai. and braun strowman and stuff and just say they just demand those like some big signing bonuses you know front-loaded contracts man that's all we can that's what we want when we sign this when we sign this deal Because God knows it could be over at any point in time.

By the way, Eddie Thorpe could have main evented WrestleMania. I'm dead serious when I say that. Really? He's so good, man. He's so good. I don't know. I mean, I'm... All right, Dave, I gotta stop it. I gotta stop it. No, I don't think there's a logical case for it. That's mostly my emotional case for it, but I love Eddie Thorpe. Eddie Thorpe.

Definitely starting to win me over as far as the end of his run. A main event WrestleMania? I didn't have him on my official list, but in my heart, I believe it.

i just think that was a weird one because he was like i i think that was a weird one just from like recruiting purposes because he's a he was a he was a young lion you know he came over from new japan he was a hot property you know i'm sure he could have gone to aw right away or whatever and he was like i want to go to the pc and like you know develop my character Yeah, he was in there with Shrek Williams and some really important storylines as well.

He pushed Ava Reign. They had trusted him enough to let him assault the general manager. Yeah, well, that never really led to anything. I kind of thought that was going to be... you know uh you know ava rain's moments like like hit the horns and get all the samoans to come and whip his ass and that never really happened you know what i mean so it's like yeah

I wouldn't say fumble, but there's definitely some head scratching moments. No, I don't think they fumbled with him creatively. I just think they fumbled by letting him go. I just think it's, I thought he was. i don't know we don't know maybe there's always stories that we don't know there's more rationale you know i don't i don't i don't know but man i love that guy um

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Any closing notes on the releases? Do you think, are they done as far as we know? Is this a cycle of releases over? as far as i know but i think there'll be another round there's always going to be rounds around summer slam end of the year as well you know but I don't want to do an over-under on the next round of releases. That's not the fun part of this job. It's not.

I hope everybody gets to live out the remainder of their contract untethered. And when they want to go to another company, they can just go freely. I don't like seeing folks find out about their job status through Sean Ross Sapp. and all that jazz well i think everybody i think everybody's found out from you know the talent relations department right that's why die jack die jack had to go online because he said something in a previous interview after his release

that made people think that he found out by reading Fightful or whatever, but he clarified. It's like, no, no, no, everybody finds out from the talent relations people, but when the cuts start... Sometimes those calls haven't been made yet, right? So you're watching the cuts thinking, oh my God, am I next? And also just finding out about your friends.

Yeah, that sucks too. It's pretty rough, man. Pretty, pretty rough. I'd love to send out a few text messages to some folks that were released. Just encouraging, you know. We got a lot of support out here. Listen, you said at the top, there is a lot of opportunity for people who want to wrestle, not just in AEW, but everyone. I feel like every day I'm looking at some indie show on Twitter that seems to have way more of a budget than I would have expected.

Come to fourth road, man. Come to fourth road. We got shows to fill out. I'm sure some of the folks that just got released will find everyone. you know lots of lots of lots of opportunity out there for sure now here's the segment that i've uh that i am going to spring on you who do you who do you wish had been released that wasn't really I'm just kidding. I'm not going to make it.

No, there's nobody out there that I don't think deserves a job. You don't agree with Naomi that Jay Cargill should have been released? Did he appreciate that tweet? Naomi is a mean, mean lady. finally you're willing to say it out loud now that she's not she's not gonna appear on a on wally mania at some point in the near future um

Yeah, that was pretty incisive. It was, for sure. Anyway, yeah, the releases suck. I think... just about everybody uh if you if they if they choose to continue pursuing wrestling and i think everybody except for like danny palmer i mean she's the only one that's come out and been like now i retire um

But, you know, I mean, there's going to be opportunities for everybody out there. And like I said at the beginning, too, it's like we now, this is terrible news for, you know, most people that they lost their job. But the fact that it's out there. and it's a news item, that could be great news for your PR campaign to relaunch your career or something else. keep your name out there you know so um

Matt Cardona is out there giving people advice on Twitter about how to reinvent themselves. I mean, there's tons of opportunities.

and there's so many examples of people that's a fact yeah i feel like he hasn't really been out there so much before maybe i just forgot but you know it seems like he's really kind of taken now officially taking this mantle you know despite the fact that all these people are not going to be competing with him for his job, maybe he feels comfortable finally, that no one's going to take his spot as the king of the indies.

Anyway, any non-cut stuff you want to talk about? What happened on SmackDown this week? I don't even remember. I've been traveling all weekend and my brain is fried. I Damn, what did happen on SmackDown this week? It wasn't terribly noteworthy. I think the women's world title picture is starting to shape up pretty heavily between Naomi, Jay Cargill, Tiffany Stroud. Oh, yeah, that was really cool to kind of like subsume.

the uh naomi jade feud into the world title picture i thought that was that was pretty smart pretty smart stuff yeah it's been pretty uh fun to see uh it's been it's been good to see jade sort of like marketed improvement since her time off. You know, I think she's gotten a lot better in the ring and a lot more confident on the mic as well. What else happened on SmackDown?

What do we open up with? Randy Orton promo was really good. Priest in LA Night. I thought Priest in LA Night had a great little joint right there. But more importantly than that, my gosh. Jacob Fatu continues to be the most awesome man who's ever lived. Oh yeah. He almost feels like the top champion on SmackDown right now. He's the guy who gets the big. He's the new big dog, that's for sure. He's taking on LA Knight, Damian Priest, and Drew McIntyre.

uh and a fatal foray for the u.s championship if you need and it's not just jacob if you need any more indication that that that he's that that's the top title or he's the top guy look at that match priest and drew are part of this scene now you know We talked about Lyra and Becky and their business from Raw last week. and McAfee and Gunther too. You know, we get John Cena. We're going to talk more about the pay-per-view or sorry, the PLE on Thursday, do our official predictions.

Where are we on John Cena vs. Randy Orton though? I feel like it should be a very, very good wrestling match. Wait, you feel like it should go on? I feel like it should be a good restaurant. Well, one of these two people was... One half of the greatest wrestling match of all time in Randy Orton. I remember.

uh overhated match by the way i thought i thought it was a totally fine match but john have we seen anything from john cena that that would let you believe he's gonna give you a great wrestling match Yeah, he's in there with Randy Orton. And they're going to do stuff. No, no, no, but since his return, do we have any reason to believe he's not just a broken down old man? I'm being very, I'm being over the top on purpose, but. Yes, yes.

No, I don't think we're going to get 2015 US title Open Challenge John Cena. But I do think we're going to get a masterclass in how to do professional wrestling really well between two guys that have done it. extremely well for for a long long time and you know we really haven't gotten to see Randy Orton really you know Unload the clip in a long time as well, right? Like his matching Joe Hendry was what it was He had a run-in with Kevin Owens and he's kind of been sort of like

Just giving you the hits for a while until, you know, this match is going to be in his backyard. He's going to be in front of his family. I mean, seeing Cena and Orton together one more time in the championship match. I'll tell you, I'll be completely honest. It could be a dog shit match. It could be a dog shit match.

And I will be fully invested from bell to bell. Okay, there you go. I don't disagree with that. This is the last time. Didn't they already mark? Wasn't there already a Cena or match that they marketed as the last time ever? When they unified the titles, wasn't that supposed to be the last time they would ever wrestle? It was supposed to be, yes. And they hadn't. I don't think they wrestled. They definitely haven't wrestled in a pay-per-view one-on-one since then. if i'm not mistaken

Well, regardless, this will almost certainly... Ask Cage Side, Brian. When's the last time John Cena and Randy Orton faced off in a pay-per-view? I don't know. You know what's funny, though? There's this segment of people online... who feel that we're just nostalgia merchants.

And John Cena and Randy Orton. We meaning this show or we meaning professional wrestling fans in general? We just wrestling fans in general. Just nostalgia merchants. And there are people that are saying there's never really been a good John Cena or Randy Orton. Watch out holly. Highly disagree. I love their... I love their title unification match. I love the... The triple threat.

at wrestlemania with triple h cena and noren um but it's it's weird because it's like i feel like it's not gonna be a great wrestling match i i've completely 180 by the way. I don't think it's gonna be a great wrestling match in the sense of like, wow, it's gonna be like... a five-star just masterclass of like wrestling maneuvers and you know stuff like that but Those two guys do the things in between the moves better than probably two other guys have ever done the things in between.

which is just making everything slow and built up and just knowing how to just play that crowd in the palm of their hands especially randy or especially a baby face Randy Orton. Like, I don't think we've seen anybody. I think that's why people have just been enamored with him for as long as he has. He's such a natural in there. And he seems like he's doing the most. But in most cases, he's not doing much at all. It's just a lot. It's a crawl.

It's a slow turn. It's the rubbing of the temples. It's like all the things that just tell the story in between the moves. Randy Orton probably does better than anybody. Anybody. And now we got John Cena wrestling his second ever heel match. And being front row watching Cena and Cody at WrestleMania this past year, I got to tell you. It's a very different type of John Cena match. And...

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Shout out my guy, Andrew. Andrew pulled me up there for the last like eight matches, like six matches at Mania this past year. You were illegally in the front row. No, no, no, no, no, no. Micah Rubin's kids in his seats were right in front of his. and ruben was gone and angie said hey you want to come sit in front row i'm like i saw him at the at the win at the win uh club and allegiance

He's like, man, come sit with us. And I was like, all right. And I was just there with Flavor Flav and Yachty. Izzy Adesanya and all those guys was great. But that's not the point. The point I'm making is... John Cena wrestles a very different type of match when he's ahead And all of those sleeper holds, all of those boring holds, all of those you can't wrestle moods. that people have the me and Cena for, for the better part of 20 years, I think it's going to happen.

Having the crowd eating out the palm of his hands again in St. Louis in backlash. And let me tell you, it'll also be a different environment. Wrestling for a stadium is much different than wrestling for an arena. And I think we're going to get a probably, I'll go out to say we'll get a better match between Cena and Orton than we did between Cena and Cody. I hope so. That's my moment. That's my not so bold prediction. That's my lukewarm take right there. Oh my god

If they just went out there and locked up and went through the motions for 10 minutes, it'll be a better match than the main event of WrestleMania. I mean, the bar is pretty freaking low. What if the last moment... Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't even watch. You see that quote? He was like, what do you think of the main event? He's like, I wasn't there. I was trying to beat the crowd. That's the nicest thing Stone Cold Steve Austin's ever said about anybody.

right there um i don't know it'll what if in the middle of the match like as you know randy orton's getting ready to punch john cena's head off of here Fiend! Fiend! Fiend! Fiend! Fiend! And here comes Travis Scott once again. Walking down the aisle. Super slowly. I mean, I guess I shouldn't, I wouldn't be that surprised since it happened before, but oh my god, I cannot imagine carrying less. That would be the stick where we met. The rest of the dates.

They still haven't explained their relationship that's what I love the most about this Travis Scott John Cena the rock thing Well, they haven't explained The Rock and Travis Scott's relationship, which is like part one. And if they haven't done that, they definitely haven't explained John Cena and Travis Scott's relationship.

i don't even know what maybe they never should it's just like we're both rich we're both famous would it hurt travis scott's career if he if he publicly or called john cena one of the greatest rappers of all time Not at all. Not at all. John Cena has sold more records than a lot of my favorite rappers. I'll tell you that much. He sold a lot more records than a lot of my favorite rappers. I mean his hit percentage one album one platinum record never did it again One great album. One plaque.

And he's like, never again. Just walked away from the booth. Do you think he has the platinum record on display in his house? Or is that just... You better? I don't know. John Cena has been driving the same car since he was like 20 according to the internet. I don't know if he's a hang-up gold record. It's got to be next to his Teen Choice Awards serveboard. Probably his Kids' Choice Awards blimp.

i mean you know i don't know if we got any uh egots or anything like that but hell yeah jesus christ if john cena we know the kind of determination that john cena has i'm talking about real life john cena not just you know kayfabe john Do you think if John Cena did the Tracy Morgan thing and decided the rest of his life was in pursuit? It's not Tracy Morgan. What's Tracy's last name on 30 Rock?

TGS with Tracy. What's his fucking name? But if he did that and just pursued an Egon for the rest of his life, would you think John Cena would pull it off? No. No. I think Hollywood has a bias against former professional wrestlers. John Cena could come out, Dave Bautista, The Rock. They could come out and have the greatest thespianic performance. and the Hester of Cinema. And the powers that be will never ever ever reward a professional wrestler.

Okay, I appreciate that you have come out with your feelings about the Academy. I like how you went right there. He's already a rich and famous actor, right? Getting an Oscar is way closer to being real than getting an Emmy, a Grammy, or a Tony Award. He's barely... he's barely done anything in anything except a music world and what's he gonna do release a new album and get a grammy Got a couple Grammys off them often comedy albums ways in to get a Grammy, I guess

I mean, I don't know. You a big fan of... What's his name? What's the superhero he plays? What's his fucking name? I forgot his name. it's like airbender or hammer what what's his name keep going homelander Nossa. uh wait wait wait i know what it is airbender or what was the second one peacemaker is the answer

John, I am sorry. I did not mean to disrespect the great Peacemaker. But yeah, Peacemaker seems like a good show. It's on HBO. It's already got a leg up. If you're on HBO, you at least know the people that give away Emmys are watching. But the Tony Award, come on. not happening john i'm sorry i'm sorry i have to be the one i don't know man if he did like uh if he did like uh

Like a Mike Tyson-style one-man show, but made it a musical, you know, or something? Like The Undertaker's trying to do? Yeah. Undertaker, one-dead-man show? I don't know. I feel like The Undertaker is a lot more interesting than John Cena's because we've seen... We've seen John Cena for 20 years. I think the joy in Cena... I'm helping him with the marketing materials. You think you know him, but do you really? He said you can. oh yeah it's a good point now you can john cena one night off

Broadway. Get your tickets now. What if he sold tickets? No, no. Broadway theater. One night. It's a Broadway theater. One night only. It's just Andy Kaufman shit, where you come out, the lights go up, and there's just a spotlight, or lights go down, there's just a spotlight on a stool. with a mic stand and he never comes out because it's just a long meta riff on the you can't see me thing and then two hours later they turn the lights on everybody goes

I could win. Just a spotlight following like nothing onto the barstool. And it just pops there and they just hear the slowed down version of it. It's like a flute playing the John Cena theme song and that's the entire thing. You know when a football player gets a concussion in the NFL and they play the slowed down version of the theme song? It's like, oh, this is the serious version. Yeah. That's what they do for John Cena. Exactly.

See, this could be huge. John, give us a call. We'll executive produce this joint. This is going to be great. I'll do it. I'll do it. Um, yeah. Okay, well. I mean. We'll talk more about getting back to that. We'll talk more about backlash. Backlash. We got some big stuff announced for Raw tonight. Actually, a couple of things announced for Raw tonight. Not big stuff. Becky Lynch is set to address Lyra Valkyria. Neo Sky versus Roxanne Perez for the women's world title. It is a title match, right?

No, I think it's a... It's non-title? Regardless, that'll be a sick match. What an opportunity for Roxanne Perez. Rusev versus Otis. I saw somebody theorizing based on that one Redeemer promo package that they played. Which I love. that rusev is going to actually be a redeemer in wwe taking on guys like otis and restoring them to their previous glory

He did say he felt redeemed in his problem. Yes, but this isn't like a motivational speaker gimmick. It's like, so there's some sort of mystical mode. It's like the way that- He wants to bring you to the abyss. The way that Karrion Kross turned everybody he feared with heel.

now rusev is going to be like the countervailing the counterbalance force to this it's like the man in black and the man in white on lost it's like these are the two great like mystical forces of wwe in the personage of these wrestlers And their feuds are responsible for all the heel turns and face turns and main event pushes that wrestlers get. There's no way it's going to work out like this, but I fucking love it. It's so great. Because only the wrestling. The only way self-help works.

is by beating the snot out of your opponent. The only way self-help. The only way self-help works. You've got to beat the snot out of your opponent. You've got to beat them into changing their lives for the better. The only way this thing works. The only way I've seen it work. I can't say it's a bad idea. What else do we have? Oh, of course, there's going to be a segment with Seth and Braun. Do they have a name yet? There was a story that they were being referred to as the Triumvirate of Terror.

which cannot be true i i just i just when i saw that i just chose to believe that's going to be what like the announcers call them kind of offhandedly but that's not in the name of the crew the triumph because that would be terrible First off, no stable has ever started off with a four-syllable word in this stable. If this stable has a four-syllable word in it, it's not going to pop off.

Dangerous Alliance, you know what I mean? Possibly a new Dangerous Alliance They're gonna need a name They're gonna need a name and it is our job right here right now dave and brian can they bring this collective my favorite heel group as a kid was devastation incorporated skandor akbar run out of world-class championship

That's one that's just begging to come back. It's like everybody thinks that they should bring back, they should call somebody else Iceman and the NBA now, my boss Bell is always talking about me to call Kevin Durant the Iceman back in the day. Iceman's just too good of a nickname for one person, even as great as George Kervin. devastation incorporated is maybe my favorite staple growing up the union which is a spin-off of the corporation oh my gosh who didn't love the union back then huh

Why do you think 10-year-old, 11-year-old Kaz was digging corporate terms for each other? All right. So... I think this group should be a spinoff of the bloodline and we can call it Thank you. The tan lines. I don't know. I don't know. Listen, Paul and Braun happened. Pumping that orange hard-body karate, son. And we all know Kobe Lopez, Seth Rollins, one of our most accomplished Cubans in wrestling history.

The tan lines, man. That's how you got to roll with it. The bloodline versus the tan lines. I know you're joking, but even so, it hurts to hear. Good old riffing. That's what it is. Good old podcast riffing.

They're gonna need a name, though. I don't know what they're gonna call themselves. The Visionary? I don't know. If it's a spinoff of anything Seth Rollins has already said for a while, then... But the future? He keeps calling himself the future. He could be... you could evolve with the future or get run over by it or something he said to sammy didn't find out the hard way he sure did he got his face stomped

And got the life spirit out of them by Braun and Seth. But do you think tonight is the night we get an A? I don't know. Do they really need a name? Why do they need a name? You need a name. You can't just be Braun, Seth, and Paul. Well, I don't think that's what they would call it, but yeah. It's Braun, Seth, and Paul. Nah, they're going to need some... I think Paul might have something stashed in there. And you know, we're all going to hate it immediately until we're eventually just...

Condition to love it the same way like the first time I heard the judgment day All right, that's sell on this last inside three some odd years later judgment day is still a thing Let's just get ahead of what fans are going to do once this name is officially unveiled a reveal. Let's just go ahead and say it's trash.

and it's whack and oh my god i could have named it something better and then the next two three four five months when they keep saying it and drilling it into our heads over and over and over and it becomes normal whatever that name is let's just as wrestling fans collectively agree it's gonna suck initially until we're so used to it nobody really you guys

DM at us. This is where we this is where we get our great sort of Fan engagement for the mass man show you give us the best name for this stable. We will read them off and I will tell you each personally why they are all trash names and how hard it is To do this for a living. Okay, you will find out the hard way If you got a good name I'll give you the props. But I'm letting you know right now, every single name suggestion that you have for the Seth Braun and Paul Heyman Collective, I'll use.

quite a bit of energy to make fun of and call terrible and tell you why you're terrible for thinking it. Can we just call it the... What? Should we just call it the... God, I don't even know. Nobody knows. It's a hard job. It's a hard job. Anything from Collision you want to hit on? I know what I like on Collision this week. Kevin night involved in another Cash prize fatal four-way. Oh, yeah

And I love that. Like, did he win? I don't know if he won. Sammy Guevara won that one. Sammy Guevara won? Ah, okay. Well, shit. That would be really cool if Kevin Knight won that one also. The Josh Alexander-Rhodi King match is pretty sick. That was a time limit draw. Let's see, next caster is kind of the highlight of every show that he's on. Jobber to the stars, man. He's loving it, though. He's kicking ass with that. Oh, so good. What a good career move by him. Of course. Of course.

That's why I say positioning is key. It don't matter if you lose every single match. If you got positioning on the card, you are a good brand, sir. And Max Caster has figured that out early. Oh, you know, we didn't talk about on SmackDown, we didn't talk about the debut match for Aleister Black, the re-debut match for Aleister Black.

No man is ever truly good, Dave. That black mask is a lot of fun to watch, huh? That's right. No man's ever truly good. No man is ever truly evil. I'll do the things you never could. And they will never be. I did love the Alistair Black Carmelo Hayes stare down. I love that Carmelo Hayes has become, you know, the go-to guy for these returning stars. I think the iced out Andre chain has some likes to it as well. Yeah, we talked about that some last week. I think it's sort of brilliant.

uh they should be selling those things i'm sure they will yeah for sure for sure how much would you pay for an ice out andre chain by the way if you if it was like a world title belt situation and you had the option of getting like the plastic one for 20 bucks Or some sort of like, you know, maybe not golden diamonds, but like fancy legit one for a couple hundred. Which one do you opt for? Here's the thing. I've always wanted one ignorant ass purchase in my life.

One of these days, I just need to just blow an irresponsible bag on a chain of some sort. And I think it would be a head, but I don't know if I'd go Andre. I might have a wrestler. It might be a wrestler. I might get like a... Like, Smoke Dizza had, like, God bless him, man. Because I'd hate Hulk Hogan ten times more. He has an iced out Hulk Hogan chain. What? Which looks amazing. Yeah. You've never seen Smoke Dizza's Hulk Hogan chain? I don't think I ever noticed it.

hold on let me see if i can pull that up it is one of my favorite Oh my gosh, does he still wear it? I think the last time he wore it. I mean, he's wore it pretty recently. He's definitely wore it pretty recently. Hold on, let's see. The point being, you might get some chain. Yes. But the Andre one would be WWE merch.

I know where Ryan is going to come down on this because he's got more replica belts in his room than anybody I know. Now that my room is is re uh reorganized i got some of my replicas right here i got this i only got two i got big duane's belt and of course my favorite Yeah, I'm trying to make it bigger. Yeah, but it's right there. I can see it Shout out there. That's my brother, man. I think if I had to get an iced-out wrestler's head or a chain on me, man.

I don't know if I don't want. I might get Bret Hart. I might get like a Bret Hart. like head or a stone called steve austin like oh oh okay boom Bloody stone cold Rubies in there I'm calling Man, listen, I'm calling Mr. Flawless right now. Like, yo, this is what I want. When I get a stupid bag, I'm going to get a stupid bag in the next two years, three years, hopefully. Iced out. Stone Cold Steve Austin. Blood from a stone. Ruby rides with the blood.

Platinum head. That's amazing. For that shiny ass stone cold ball. Brian, who would you get? It's funny because maybe 10 years ago it would have been Hogan. But I think it would be Bret Hart putting Shawn Michaels in a sharpshoot. Nice. Nice from the Iron Man match. Yeah, we can do the Iron Man match. Yeah, Bret Hart doing that. Shoot, I mean, at this point, the right name homie's going. Proceed with caution. Oh yeah.

There you go. I was surprised that you didn't pick like, you know, it's being a sort of hip hop thing. I was surprised you didn't pick a black icon like Jeff Hardy or something to go as. yeah a couple years ago i would have probably gotten like a iced out like too sweet or something like that One of those, like the hand signal could have been cool. Oh, that's pretty good. What about you? What would be your ignorant jewelry purchase? It has to be jewelry? I mean, like... Yes, yes.

has to be jewelry it's gonna be a giant ice out thing yes okay well then i mean on some level i'm wearing that ironically so i can go in a lot of different directions here um I mean, if you're going... I don't even go with the winged eagle. I put the winged eagle on my neck. That's almost too nice. That's still good. What a big eagle. I mean, as long as you're being accessible, You're wearing a big chunk of overpriced gold and diamonds around your neck.

I could do like the laughing million dollar man Ted DiBiase face. that would be pretty good obviously rick flair i'm not sure if i want to be repping rick flair on a daily basis but that but the sort of nation aspect of the whole thing works pretty well What pose are we going with, Flair? Is it like him in the robe? Is it just his head? I would prefer a robe, although I can imagine just him doing the woo, just the face, you know?

like that um the great would be like rick flair like with the neck brace on or like rick flair bloodied after a match or something like that just like like a comical rick flair I need the AI geniuses that listen to this show to make all these chains for me so I can see how these look like. Because I really think that stone cold blood from a stolen chain would go crazy. It would. I mean, that would be incredible.

Or just the middle finger? That's too vague. That could be anyone's finger. No, nobody does it just like Stone Cold Steve Austin. That's true. Dusty Rhodes would be a good one. Oh, yeah. I stopped, Dusty. Like, hard times. Having the iced out hard times. Dusty Rhodes. Finally, Cody couldn't do it. Finally, I could finish the story by having an iced out Dusty Rhodes necklace.

putting Dusty's promo about having hard times in America and encrusting it in diamonds and other jewels It would be so ironic, it's kind of perfect. He's got the curly hair, the jacket, everything he's wearing right there. Yup. I got hard times, daddy. Hard times in your face. We gotta get this figured out. We need to. Carmelo and Miz started something, man. We got to do it now. Well, you know, WWE is going to make more. Anything that we say will be available.

Anything that we suggest will be available at the Superstore next year at WrestleMania. They'll definitely try to make money off of it. Otherwise they can't, they won't have record profits right before next year. Anyway, we'll think about it. Best wrestling irrational purchases. Wrestling themed ignorant.

ignorantly purchased wrestling themed chains maybe we should be thinking more about that stuff because as much as i sit here and say man i don't know like i could not justify ever spending money on a real replica about like whatever but there's there's people out there that do it man i met i met a nice couple at uh wrestlemania did i say this on the air i met a nice couple of wrestlemania who um I just literally ran into them on the floor during Wrestlemania. Because I complimented.

she had on like a like a very specific ultimate warrior i don't remember i think i think it was the wing vehicle but i had like almost a tie-dye kind of leather thing going on in the background yeah and uh and he had on a wwe championship that was all the one the all gold like even the straps were gold title belt and i had seen that one i was like hey my gosh where'd you get that how much and he apparently they didn't make many of them

When he got to the superstore, they were all the way sold out. He was heartbroken because that's all he did. But they said, oh, but we do have one. Left that is signed by stone-cold Steve Austin. Oh, you didn't tell me this but on the back It said Steve Austin say it had a signature and he put and it was 10 of 10 So like there I only made 10 he got the last one

I did not ask him. I do not know how much the dude paid for it. But I asked him if he could have bought a house with it. And he looked at me and he said, down payment, maybe.

people are out there nice people are out there willing to spend lots of money um maybe next year that's it maybe next year in the in the superstore well we'll just we'll just skip podcasting next year but we're just gonna have like a like a like a diamond and gold shop in the superstore mahala at greg yuna i'm gonna holla my guy greg i'm gonna holla at uh jacob jacob the jeweler and we can make this a thing man like yo we're gonna make some real

we're gonna have a wrestling jewelry convention and invite all the wrestlers down there and we're gonna make customized pieces for all the stars right like we're gonna get out it was so out immediately like jay already got his gate chain so that's that's he's already taken care of there but like

getting roman like an iced out one you know i mean and the thing or something like that that would be really cool you know uh by the way do you notice that he's not coming when roman reigns made his last appearance it was not he did not have otc in his graphic I think Chiefhood is behind him, but regardless... We can make some nice jewelry for him too. I can handle all the white people jewelry.

you know like it'll be well i'm just going to focus on like uh like like ugly silver and turquoise stuff you know that like fat rings that you could wear while you're riding your motorcycle that's sort of you know it's just real if i was super you know what i can put get away with you can get like the old school like red white and blue saturday night's main event rope

and just make those in the chains and just have like four like turnbuckles around it you know what i mean like just have the turnbuckles as like little black diamonds around it and just have the ring ropes and that could be

this is why i need to be rich i'd make like some incredible wrestling theme jewelry wow yeah this is why you need to be rich you can be more rich right you're gonna i could afford all of my hair brained ideas if i were rich and yes you would make lots of money off of it because that's how the world Dang. All right. Square circle jewelry coming this fall. Oh, my gosh. We need to be our first guy. We need to be our first model. We've got to model them all.

You know what I mean? The Andre chain, the Miz and Melo star to something, man. We can do this. Oh my God. All right. Somebody with a nice diamond hive, a diamond mine that they're not using. Let's make some wrestling jewelry. I know you ain't missing no meals, Nick Khan. Holla at me. Let's do this. Make some wrestling jewelry. All right. I guess that's it. We've already given away our best idea of the year. So let's log off. Kaz, you want to get any plugs in?

Yeah, man, you can catch me on 7pm on Brooklyn this week. saved a bunch of episodes this week so i'm really not sure who is uh the guest that we're gonna be unveiling but they're all incredible i'm sure you'll see much of it um say less with cats okay roseo is available on my youtube page youtube.com That's all I got today. Ah, you can find me here. Thanks. Finn Balor's going to be We'll see you back here on Thursday.

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