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E78 The Show Must Go On

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Jim Celgielski, Jerel Wade and Kelvin "Dawg Smith fill in for Jack as he's dealing with the death of his father. Don Hartness is their guest as they discuss Chris McDaniel's race, Don's race and more.

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A homegrown husband and father, Conservative Christian leader Chris McDaniel will always fight for Mississippi. McDaniel did it by standing up for our rights in the state Senate. That's why Chris McDaniel was awarded by the American Conservative Union, endorsed by the Conservative Political Action Coalition, and why McDaniel received the Law Enforcement Officers Legislator of the Year award. Now as our Lieutenant Governor, Chris McDaniel will continue

to fight for our state by kickstarting Mississippi's revival. Chris McDaniel will eliminate income tax for everyone so families can prosper, safeguard our God given Second Amendment rights from tyrannical gun control legislation, stand against abortion to protect the sanctity of life, kick the walk left out of schools so our children are educated and not indoctrinated. And finally, Chris McDaniel will pass the Parents' Bill of Rights so

they have control over their kids education. Fighting for Mississippi's revival, Conservative Chris McDaniel for Lieutenant Governor paid for by the Committee to elect Chris McDaniel. Liberals be warned your viewpoints will be subjected to strike scrutiny. You're listening to right side radios like click, My eyes have been blown wide on in this present crisis. Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.

The nine most terrifying words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. Tuned into right Side Radio and you have found it. This is the right Side Radio podcast. UM. This is Jim Sigelski. I'm the publisher of the Loyal Leader Call, and I am sitting in for Jack Fairchild's whose father, whose father passed away this week, and I want to offer him my condolences and to Jack and his family, and I'm here with Gerald Wade. Gerald is the headmaster in UM Silver Bay.

I'm sorry that well so already. He's also a member of the Chris mcdan annual campaign team, and he has graciously decided to join us today to help help us get through the right Side Radio podcast in the absence of Jack, and listen. Jack's one of the best broadcasters there is. He has years of experience. So if you're tuning into this expecting to hear Jack, you're not going to hear anybody as good as Jack. Today. But it should be fun. Also joining us today is Don Hartness. Don is running

for the Mississippi Senate and the old seat. Chris McDaniel held, Um, welcome Don. You can grab that microphone and Gerald, do you want to say anything to Jack before we get started? Sure, just you know, like you said, Jack's just a great friend. He's a great broadcaster. He does a great job with his podcast with the Right Side. Uh. Just our prayers with him and his family. Uh, such a such a tragedy that had happened and just sort of sudden. And so we are we're

definitely having Jack and our prayers and our thoughts through this time. Listen, we're gonna we're gonna try to make the show as upbeat as we can here. And I want to start out by UM. I had announced this yesterday on the Buck Naked Truth podcast, but it's so important I want I want to start the show off here with it. Um. We're doing something called the Buck Naked Truth Save our Country Challenge. I'm gonna read from the ad, it's time to fight back. It's up to us to save our state

and country from the lunatic left wing fringe. Help turn Mississippi back towards conservatism by electing Chris McDaniel. And here's your chance to actually double your contribution to the McDaniel campaign. If you will send a check payable to the Committee to Elect Chris McDaniel, mail it to The Buck Naked Truth and our address is three eighteen North Magnolia Street in Laurel and the ZIP is three nine four four zero. I will match the first ten thousand dollars in donations made to the

Chris McDaniel campaign. So that's the first part of that. The second part of that, if your contribution is one hundred dollars or more, you will be automatically entered in a chance to win our journey together. It's the gorgeous photo book by President Trump and it is signed by Donald J. Trump,

which is pretty darn awesome. I hope you'll you'll you'll send in a donation for one hundred dollars and more to the Chris McDaniel campaign, and we will get you entered that in that contest, and we will draw we will draw that name out on a future episode of The Buck Naked Truth. So listen, it really is time we need Mississippi needs Chris McDaniel. The country needs

Chris McDaniel. It's so important when we only have a month left of this campaign, so obviously you've got to get your checks in very fast on this Delbert husband has lots of money. Is that right? Gerald, that's right, and Jim, we appreciate you doing that as part of the leadership team with the McDaniel campaign. We know that whatever money we can raise in these

last twenties six twenty seven days is going to be crucial. I was actually looking at finance reports just earlier today and right now in the war chest for Hoseman and versus Chris, it's about a ten to one. Houseman's got ten dollars for everyone that Chris has got. Now that doesn't mean it's an inevitable that Houseman's going to win, because I fully believe at this point in the

race Chris has a lead. I think he's ahead. So the dollars don't do everything, but they do a lot, and so we know that there's going to be a lot of money spent here at the end of this race. We know that there are things coming that any desperate candidate who is behind in the polls and has lots of money is going to throw everything, including

the kitchen scenk. Yeah. Yes, he has three million dollars to spend in the last month of his campaign, so we are going to be deluged by lying, cheating, totally misleading Delbert Houseman ads he could spend one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a day. Yeah, which is this race? Listen, we're I'm already sick of seeing the ads and that little old lady on the bench ad which is so misleading it helped him get elected the first time. Um, But we have to in order to save our state now,

I mean, we're on the verge of turning into a blue state. In order to save our state, we have got to stop Delbert Houseman and listen. I know your your team, Gerald, um is out working your butts off. My gosh, Dan Carr, who was on the podcast yesterday, he was so tired yesterday he could barely keep his eyes open on the podcast. So I know you guys are working really hard, but it's up to the rest of us too to step up here in this fight. We can't

take back our state unless we all do it together. Um, you know, trying to outdo an incumbent with that amount of money. It's a difficult challenge, that's right. And we know that Chris's base, Chris's those that have been supporters of his since he first ran a statewide race in twenty fourteen, are out there. They're pushing, they're working. We've seen up and down the state. We know there was a big group of people in Madison

County last weekend knocking on doors. I think there'll be a group in Madison this weekend as well as Desota County. And we know that many other counties across the state have smaller groups that are doing the same thing. So it's those voter contacts. It's those types of things that counteract that money. Now, the more money we can have, the more TV, the more radio, the more of those ads that we can do to get Chris's message out

to the rest of the state. So it is crucial that anyone who can goes ahead and donates to the campaign as soon as you can, because technically you're gonna need that money within the next two weeks to be able to put it to work, and so any any dollars that we can get between now and the next couple of weeks are going to be crucial for the dress. So get those checks in very very fast, and like I said, I will, I will make sure it's doubled so you can do twice twice the

amount of good with your donation. So please hurry up and get that into us again. It's three eighteen North Magnolia Street, Laurel, Mississippi, is the address that those checks will get turned over immediately to the Chris McDaniel campaign. So don thank you for joining us today, and I know you're in the middle of your own really tough campaign. But before we get the year campaign, I did want to talk about event we were all at last week

at the Hunter's Edge. It was a four Chris McDaniel. It was a great event. I want to thank Lorie and Lange Rogers of the Hunter's Edge for holding that event. I thought the turnout was pretty good and certainly Chris's message resonated with me as I'm sure that everybody who was in attendance. What did you guys think of that event? I thought it was great. Roughly one hundred feet people that were there, very enthusiastic, crowd, excited to see Chris, to see him. Back at home, Chris had his whole

family with him. That was great to see them. So I think he was energized by by that. You know, when anytime you can come home after being on the road as long as he has been, and you come home and you see the people you grew up with, you see your your your friends, and your neighbors there behind you, you know you're not in this race alone. And I think he got re energized from that, and so we're just going to parlay that into him again going all across the state.

I think he's already been from the coast to north Mississippi since then, and this is only Wednesday, So he's he's got energized, he's ready to go, and he's pushing hard these last few weeks. Don how's your campaign gone? I mean, now you have to be just as exhausted as everybody else's. Um, I know you're out knocking on doors every day and you're working your butt off to try to save very important sentence, see from kind of going middle of the road liberal. I don't know what you want to

talk about. How would you describe your opponent? Well, if there's two races that marry each other as mine and Chris as the race, as far as money, as far as no debate, a lot of similarities between myself and Chris, and I just hope that we have the opportunity to join each other in Jackson. I was telling somebody the other day that you want to turn the state one hundred and eighty degrees, you put myself in Chris up there at state Capitol. I think we'll make some headspins and we will make

the state red again. Yeah, I think I think it's really important. And listen, we've We've talked about this a lot on the Buck Naked podcast. I'm sure Jack's talked about it too. But you're running against an opponent who didn't show up forty percent of the time in Jackson, and you know she's been She's been telling people that I'm mean to and all that stuff. Well, being mean to somebody just because you tell the truth about the record

is different than being actually mean to them. I don't know Robin Robinson. I don't I don't know her personally. I probably have met her, you know, over the past fifteen years old in this paper, but I don't have anything personally against her. But anybody who doesn't show up for forty percent of the vote, and then when they do vote, comes back liberal a good amount of the time. I don't think they should take away the most

conservative seat we've had in the Mississippi Center. I totally agree that, you know, not showing up for forty percent of the votes and also voting liberal, voting for just about every tax increase that was available up there at the Capitol. It's a huge issue in that you're supposed to represent your constituents.

Like I said last night, if you had to look at two push cards in this race between myself and my opponent, the front basically says what I believe in and hopefully ninety nine percent of the folks here in this area in District forty two would agree of those points. And on the back is my resume. I've been president of A five or one C three, so I've had some important positions in the state. I've also put up a gold Star Family memorial wall to Camp Shelby. I've also got the key to the city

of alas Folle here recently from our volunteer work in December. So I'm involved and I will still be involved even though to the capital. I will still do some some things that you know, as far as donate my time and my efforts. Have you been on the Right Side radio podcast before or is this your first? Now, I've been on one time before. All right, so you're Jack's audience knows you're known as the flag Man. I take it, I mean, and I think it's important what you do every every

patriotic holiday. You stand out on corners in Jackson and pass out of American flags and ask for donations for veterans. Is that correct? That's correct? And I do it legally, yeah, And I I think it's one of the most awesome things that even can do. You're standing out there in the heat of the day and on July fourth passing out American flags. Well,

I think it's pretty awesome. Well I could. I could also write a book on the number of parents and mothers and follows that have been out there to visit with me and tell their story about losing their son or daughter in battle. And you know, one of the few times during the day, and I'm there for twelve hours from five in the morning to five in the evening. And I don't know if you've stood for long and more than an hour, but twelve hours on your feet is uh ane hundred ten degree heat.

It's everything to take out of you. But I have to think to my wife for being there, Gaila and Charlie, and there's some mothers that join us out there, and we do it for the good of the veterans. We raise money for several you know Mississippi for Woundy Warriors, Veterans Outreach,

We've we've done individuals, so it's been a worthwhile. The meeting last night, he was mentioned, my opponent mentioned that she supports veterans, and I went one step further last night, and not only do I support him, I raise money for him. So it's big difference, is pretty impressive. What you do Gerald. Do you know about this Black Lives Matter story

in DeSoto County? Yeah, I've heard a little bit about that. It seems that there was a flyer that was passed out from I guess it was out of Memphis, a Black Lives Matter organization out of Memphis that put out and it actually says please vote for and support the following candidates in DeSoto and

Take counties. And it has a list of candidates from sheriff supervisor, Justice Court judge Constable on down but it lists two candidates there, one for governor in Brendon Pressley, the Democrat running for governor, and it also mentions for the lieutenant governor the Black Lives Matter endorsed Delbert Hoseman. So and of course, you know, the first thing that anybody from the other camp's going to do is say, oh, that was made up. That was a flyer.

It's just made up. It's not the real thing. But if you go and you do a little more background check on the address that they use, the address, if you just google the address that is given on the flyer, the Google Maps shows up as the Black Lives Matter headquarters in Memphis, Tennessee. And so that leads a little bit of credits to that. Actually that's that's actually really important because there's a senator's wife out there that puts

puts out on Facebook. That address comes back to a beauty salon, which is right which is a total lie and right there tells you, okay, something's up with that. Well, and I did a little check in on that as well, and apparently this is a big office building and maybe there is a beauty salon in that building. But when you go back and you look at a couple of the other businesses. I think there's two or three

businesses in that particular office building, different suites. They all come back to the same owner, and that owner each one of those businesses has the same phone number, and that owner is also listed as one of the leaders of the Memphis, Tennessee chapter of Black Lives Matter. So you can spend this however you want to. It all comes back to looking like it is a truthful of flyer that's being put out showing that Black Lives Matter endorses Delbert Hoseman.

And let's talk. Let's face this. Is there anyone seriously doubting the fact that Black Lives Matter is going to support Delbert Houseman over Chris McDaniel. Of course they're going to. I mean, every every Democrat there is in this state supports Delbert Hoseman over Chris McDaniel. And so I don't even know why this is a shock to people that BLM would endorse Delbert Houseman. I mean, I think it's perfectly natural and they should endorse Delbert Houseman because Delbert

Houseman works for them. Yeah, I think you're right. I mean this it's not really a shock as far as the endorsement goes. And you mentioned that there's a senator's wife who was putting this out on on Facebook try to discredit this, and and I think that further shows that, uh, there's there's a lot of coordination between these senators, just a handful of senators and Delbert Hoseman, who he has hand picked for certain positions or he has given

I don't know, I can't. I don't know that he's given promises, but he's you know, he's obviously got a few of these you can call him lapdogs or whatever out there barking his marching orders and trying to trying to cover his rear. And and now they're dragging one of the senators wives into

it. And it was really interesting that she made this post on Facebook trying to discredit this, and within minutes, two to three minutes, it was shared by Delbert hosemanow awful lot of coordination going there and trying to combat some things. So I think it says a lot. Our friend Jack has has told me many times in these political races, is that if a candidate is

explaining themselves, that must mean they're losing. And I agree with that, and so here we see Delbert having to explain something that he claims it is not true. But that just tells how desperate their campaign's getting. And I believe this. There is a Senator Parker who was up there, and um, I believe Senator Parker is one of the people who who called Chris McDaniel Captain America's right, I tried. I don't know why Captain America would be

derogatory, because I think it's pretty awesome to be called Captain America. But I'm pretty sure he was trying to h to dis Chris McDaniel with that tagline. But um, obviously this is somebody that's in Delbert husband's campaign or a back pocket. Yeah, it's got to be. You know, there's there's two or three of those senators across the state that that seemed to be fighting

the fight for Delbert Um and he seems to be one of those. Uh again, Gerald, how how bad does it bother you that, Um, the media in Mississippi seems to be carrying the wood for Hoseman as bad as the media nationally carries it for Biden. I mean, it must as somebody who's working on the campaign as closely as as you are. That's got to bother you because we're in Mississippi. You don't expect that it does, you know, we we've and we've discussed it many different times throughout this campaign.

Is you know, who's who's friendly to us? Which media outlets are friendly to uh? To the calls and you know, there's there's really not one. You know, there's there's one media outlet that's fairly new, and I think it's a conglaboration of a couple of things. A Magnolia Tribune. You may have heard of that one before, and they seem to be a little more of the right leaning or or at least not quite as liberal as a

lot of the other media outlets. But but even Magnolia Tribune and some of those writers have been with us in the past, they seem to even put a little bit of a spin or a little bit of a slant away from things. Yeah, and there there is actually one media outlet that's in your camps there forgot. Yeah, Well there's you know President Yeah, I listen. It's it's crazy to me because being one of the only conservative newspapers in

Mississippi, and obviously I think Chris McDaniels should be the guy. I mean, I'm putting everything into Chris McDaniel's thing, but I'm the only person doing it in Mississippi as a media person. Yet it bothers the heck out of the rest of the media. I'm personally getting attacked by the other media outlets because I'm I'm in a conservative and that's got to be scary because we're living

in Mississippi, which is a very conservative state. The people here, no matter, no matter the fact that we're electing too many rhinos and too many liberal liberals, the people here are conservative. That's right, and it may go it may even show us a little more of something that Chris says on the campaign trail where he talks about how woke and how liberal our colleges and

universities have gotten, and how they brainwashed a lot of these students. And you know, you if you look at schools of journalism now, and these these newer journalists coming out and working for these media outlets, they if they are if they are taught with a liberal slant or a liberal bias, but yet they don't see that as a bias. Than anybody who is a conservative is looked at as a right wing wacko, and we all get that label

at times. And so that may prove Chris's point that we're not seeing any kind of mainstream We're not even seeing any down the middle of the road. Uh media outlets uh that are that are even looking at both sides of things. They'll they'll they'll just sort of ignore certain issues and that we think is

a big deal. But then they'll turn around and they'll support and push and they'll positive agenda for for housemen, and and it just it may just prove that our schools of journalism and our colleges and universities are are just as liberal as as Chris says they are on on his campaign Triot. I don't know about you, guys, but I gotta say ten years ago, I probably would have been considered a moderate, and I haven't changed my views. But

now I'm far right. Uh you know, according to everybody else in the media, I'm far right now. And you have to wonder how the heck and that, how the heck did that happen, because you know, I wasn't a far right guy. I've never been a far right guy. I've been a pretty middle of the road, moderate kind of guy. I do believe in the Constitution, but I don't think that makes you far right. You know, the saying from back into sixties, ask not what your country

can do for you, but what you can do for your country. That is a right wing statement made by Democratic president. Yeah. JFK, that's right. Yeah, So you know, how would how would JFK look at this as a Democrat president? How would he look at the current state of things and keep his ideas and his principles in line? I would say he would have to be a Republican today. Well, absolutely, and we're gonna have Kelvin Smith jump in here with us. We have a microphunt set up

for him right now, and we'll continue this conversation. Listen. I think Robert F. Kennedy, he's running for the for the Democrat the nomination against Biden. Actually he is shunned by the by the left wing of that party like he's some sort of radical. That's how far that that party has gone moved to the left. Because this we're talking about a Kennedy here, I mean the Kennedy's pretty much owned Democrat politics for decades and decades and Ted Kennedy

was one of the most left wing people in that party for decades. But now Robert F. Kennedy's too much of a right wing radical for the Democrat Party. That's right. I remember as I was, I guess I was either in my late teens or early twenties, was on a trip to Washington, DC and got to sit in a session of Congress, and it was

the Senate was they were debating expanding some some Social Security benefits. And it was about two thirty three o'clock in the afternoon, right after the US Senate took a long lunch break, and a half drunk ted Kennedy gets up and makes a rousing speech about how he thinks we need to expand social Security. I'll never forget it, big time Democrat, uh policy. And today that is not really considered anything. We have Republicans nowadays that are looking at doing

those kinds of things. You know, just it seems like so many things have shifted too far to the left and and the parties are just out of whack, and so it's it's time that we start pushing back and bringing some things back to the right. And that and that's where Chris McDaniel comes. That's exactly and that's the reason that I'm calling this challenge. It's a fight for both Mississippi and America. Is because we have to start to fight somewhere

and has to start here in Mississippi. And if we can't win the battle here in Mississippi, we're not gonna win it in any other states that are out there. I mean, it's it's it's that important. Kelvin, Welcome to the show. I've had one heck of a day. I'm sorry, I'm late. That's okay. I had this big intro I was, I was on open with for Jack and all that. But I know y'all are doing doing his show right, So I'm just glad i'm here. Gets to get to be here for a few minutes. And I think you don't need

any introduction, but most people know you as dogs Kelvin dog Smith. He's with the McDaniel leadership team, and I think he probably wanted to uh say some words to Jack. Well, I did, how long have we have we been on? Just a few minutes, about half of thirty minutes, okay, thirty minutes, so I have missed quite a few Well, I was just gonna I was gonna open up with you know, the you have

found. I did open we we we're doing Jack well. But I you know, I was just gonna say, you know, this is a third state wide campaign we've ran, and uh, and I talked about Gerald has been a huge part of it, and uh, Jack is a huge part of it. I know you've been a part of it for a long time. But you know, me, Jack and Chris went to Jones together.

I mean, we've been in this for a long long time. And uh, because we're filling in for Jack and he does such a good job, you know with his podcast and and and me and Gerald and Jack and actually Richard Conrad as we were in business together with Right Way Strategies we started a

few years ago. And uh, you know, when you do this and I told my wife's team the other day, when when you when you do this for for so long and state wide campaign and you run the state from one end to the other, you make some lifelong friendships and some lifelong family at this we are, and some lifelong connections. Uh. But I think our relationship with Jack just goes a lot further. So I really just wanted to say you know Jack, we um you're our family, your brother.

We love you, my man, and uh we're praying for you there in this time because I know it's a tough, tough time and uh and I just hope we do your your podcast and your show justice h during this hour or so. And uh, I really just wanted to tell him that we're

thinking about him. I talked to him, you know, every day, heard from him right before I came over here, and just uh just want to let everybody know to peel pray for Jack and and uh as we do this show for him this week, and just reach out to him if you can. And again, we're all like family, you know everything we've been through, the good and the bad. So just here for you, my ma'am. And I think that's dudo for all of us that are sitting at

this table um doing this podcast for you. Jack Um, don let's turn to you for a second. Uh. Where's your campaign stand and how are you feeling right now about your chances? Well, each day I feel a little better, I guess the stories that you hear from your constituents and you know, just working hard out there. In fact, I got a phone call this morning about seven thirty. Vice president and my company and my regional manager called me and said I was on a zoom call on Monday, and

said they were concerned about me because I saw that. I guess my eyes were drooping. ID wasn't very much of a participant, so I had to explain to him this morning. And I've been working since February. I have been you know, knocking on a few doors and doing you know, working during the day and working at night baseball day at nine and ten o'clock. So it's ten and twelve hour days every day since February. So it takes its toll after a while, but it's fun. I love interviewing people,

interacting with them and talking to them and actually having a conversation. That's where you win hearts and minds, is actually having a conversation. You picked up my old my old co host of the buck Naked Truths endorsement this week. If you read his column, um, he endorsed you in his column and as well as McDaniel and Chris Hodge. And I just want to talk about this for a second because the reason, the reason he endorsed all three of you, I mean, there's a number of reasons, but one of the

major reasons he endorsed all three. You all have three in common, the fact that your opponents won't debate you. And to me, if if somebody running for political office, especially as important as a Senate seat in Mississippi, a House seat in Mississippi, and a lieutenant governor seat in Mississippi won't debate, that should tell the vote or something right there. I mean, I don't, I don't know any would you ever vote for somebody wouldn't debate Gerald?

No. I think that's that's a key part of this whole American experience in being able to pick our representatives in government is you need to express ideas and you need to be able to compare and contrast ideas. And I think it's very important that we do that. I want to go back and mentioned one thing. Don Don said something and he said it wrong, and I want to correct him. He said he's knocked on a few doors. Yeah, Don hasn't knocked on a few doors. Don is Don is attempting to

knock on every door of the voters in District forty two. Uh, And he's he's gotten a long way with that. I've not seen a harder working candidate in a local race like this than than Don Hardness. And if if you haven't met Don, if you haven't seen him shook his hand, talk to him. It's not his fault. He's been out there and he's been he's been working hard. Uh. He wants to earn every vote that he gets. And and I'm saying that in front of him. I've said it

to him before, and I know he's working hard. He was at an event in Peddle last night, just spoke well, talked to his ideas, answered questions, stood around and talked to the people after it was over. So he's he's doing big events. He's doing the the events where there are people that are there. But then he's going in one on one knocking on doors. He and his wife Jerry Lynn there. They're both just busting their

tail to earn the vote of the voters in a district forty two. So I think everybody owes it to get to know a little more about Don Harness. And one thing that anybody listening should know District forty two is huge. It's I ran for mayor like twenty some years ago or thirty years ago, whatever it is now, and I tried to knock on all the doors in Laurel, the city of Laurel, and I really couldn't do it. I mean, there's just no way. I was out there campaign every day like

you were, but it's just too many people. So there's no way you can get around and knock on every single door. It's it's impossible. But Gerald, you're right. If someone wants to meet Don Hartness, just let Don Hartness know and he'll be happy to meet with you. Absolutely. I think I think it's important that you meet as many people as you can. But again, I'm with him, it's not for a lack of effort.

You're trying to meet everybody. Well, you know, when folks would this first started, you know, you know, money coming in and doing certain things. I don't want to disappoint anybody. I'm a type of individual that we'll fight on the Senate floor what's right and really what it comes down to. It's not a Republican or Democrat issue. It's right and wrong. And if you follow the Ten Commandments, pretty much everything everything else falls in line.

And I want to go up there and make a difference. In the time that I'm there, I've got kids and grandkids. Really concerned about the grandkids and the culture they're growing up in in the schools and elsewhere. It really hits my heart that you know the books in the libraries, and you know the thirty or so that have been identified, and you know, as a grandparent, I don't want to walk into a situation where I see something on the table and my grandson says, hey, Pop, what's that.

Yeah, No, I'm with you on that. I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm doing it for my grandkids as well, because if the country keeps heading in the direction that it's heading, I just can't imagine what it's going to be like for our kids. And Jeral I know you're the headmaster at Silver Bay, which is a great school, and it's a private school, so there's some protections there. You were in the public school system for a while, That's right. I've over twenty years in the public school systems.

You see, you see a lot um is one of the reasons you left the public school system is because of the curriculum, or not not so much of the curriculum, because you know, as the as the principle, as the head of the school, I had a little bit of I had my hands on a little bit of that, and I could I could control a little bit of what we did and what we taught. Um, there are so many mandates coming down in our school systems from Washington and even from Jackson

that I that just personally, I couldn't, I couldn't accept. To give you give an example one of the schools that I worked in not too long ago, when I when I first took the job at the school and I was actually moved from a from a middle school to a high school to help turn some things around. And one of the first things I found out was

there was a transgendered student at this school. It was a lot you know, to COMPROMI the previous administrator had allowed this transgender student to use a faculty restroom. Well, the first thing I did when I found this out, I said, number one, we don't have transgendered students here. The birth certificate says that's a girl. That's a girl. And number two, we have girls restrooms and we have boys restrooms, and girls are gonna use girls

restrooms and boys are gonna use boys restaurants. Well, once I put my foot down and said this is just the way it's going to be. There was no problem, a little bit of pushback, there was no issues there, and so for a couple of years while I was there, that was the case. New leadership came into the district and immediately those things were going

to change. And so I saw that as leadership over my head came in and began to push those agendas and had a little more liberal slants on things, it was time to move on because I could tell there was going to be some difficult days ahead if I stayed in that position. So fortunate for me, an opportunity came up to move on to where I'm at now, so great school that I'm at, and definitely have a lot more ability to

do what's right, what's morally and ethically right with with our kids. Tell them, since we've gotten on the topic of education, and it's really important to you, tell me, how how do we solve the education problem that we have right now with especially the curriculum that's being taught. UM. I think it comes down from the state level, UM, and local people don't have as much control over it as we think they do. UM, how

do we how do we solve the overall education problem? And I think that's really the answer to everything is we've never and I think it's it's led us down this path. We've never solved the education problem in this country. Um, you know, black kids aren't getting educated like white kids. They're just not there. The schools, the school districts aren't as good. They're the ones with the worst grades in the school district is always the black schools.

But the push should be trying to improve the schools. Equity shouldn't be the answer to this problem. Education should be the answer to this problem. Yeah. I think it even goes a little deeper than that. There are so many other, so many other aspects of government that are intertwined together. I don't think you can solve education in a silo. I don't think it's a it's not a separate issue. To give you an example, let's look at

our welfare systems. When you look at how much money is given to families that are on welfare, then there's no incentive to work. If there's no incentive to work, there's no incentive to get an education. Several years ago, I did some research into this and I found that if a single mother of three children, now black, white doesn't matter. A single mother of three children can work up to sixteen hours at minimum wage and maximize government benefits.

The maximum government benefits are fifty to sixty thousand dollars, not including Medicaid or Medicare or whichever one it is, the government backed insurance. So would you work for sixteen hours a week at a minimum way's job if you knew you were going to have fifty thousand dollars worth of guaranteed support. So that's a single mother with up to three kids kind of maximizes and maxes out. Now, if that single mother gets married, it immediately starts shutting those things

down, especially if that person that spouse is employed anywhere. So there's no incentive for the nuclear family, incentive not to have it, that's right, So you disincentivize the family, you disincentivize work. Well, we're sitting here now, you know, if you go all the way back to Lyndon Johnson's Great Society where a lot of these issues begin, we're seeing two three fourth generation in this cycle. So there's no incentive to have a nuclear family.

There's no incentive to work. Therefore, there's no incentive to get an education. And if there's no incentive to get an education. It really doesn't matter what you do in schools. So there's so many other issues that are centered around that that you can't solve education by itself a matter. I personally believe education needs to be solved at the end because if you fix some of these societal issues and you make education important, some of those things will fix themselves.

That's a good point. I wanted to go back. You turn around looking at this as I get to talk for a minute. The thing is, you came in late. You missed the McDaniel part of the conversation. Well, we can go back to the maintainance. Well, I want to say this, and I apologize if I'm hitting on something you I've always discussed. I want to go back to Don's race, but I do want to

say this. Who feels Chris McDaniel's position in the States Senate seat is very very important to us, the ones that have been with Chris for a long long time, and we've had that discussion for many years. When when we get to this point that he has to leave this seat is very important to us who replaces him? And I will just say, and this is not a beat up on Don's opponent, but we feel like Don is the person for that job, and we also feel a little responsible for getting Don to

run for this seat. And so, but I will say there's a rule of thumb out there that usually the incumbent does not debate his or her opponent unless he just feels really really threatened that they've got a shot. Well, I want to remind the voters that, first of all, Don's opponent is not the incumbent for this position. Okay, there is no incumbent for this position. So and again, we feel like Don is the best person for his job. And Don is out knocking more doors than any candidate I've ever

seen. He's out doing the job. His wife, Jerry Lean is alongside him doing this. He comes across just is really really genuine. And again, we don't want to beat upon Don's opponent, but the facts are the facts. I don't mind because she kind of deserves it. And I'm gonna tell you, I don't think that the reason she's not debating isn't is because she thinks she's the incumbent. I think she doesn't want to debate because she can't defend that. Right now, I agree and I want to say one

other thing. The facts are the facts. His endorsements, her record, The facts are the facts. But I do want to say this voters, and I hope you're listening. I hope this gets shared out. You really do need to take this as an insult that she will not debate and she will not get on the stage with don or whoever the opponent might be to ask you for your vote and to talk about facts and show you why she should receive your vote and why she's the best candidate for the job. She's

not doing that. She won't do that. She keeps coming up with excuse hafter excuse after excuse, and I would just plead to the voters you need to take that as an insult. You need to take that as personal because this is your personal vote, that she's not getting on the stage and really asking you for I've said this a million times. I don't care if you

running for dog catcher. If you're out there in front of the public and you have an opponent and one or two of them wants to debate, you owe it to the voters to get on the stage and debate and let the voters here and let the voters decide, and when you don't debate, I don't think you deserve anybody's vote, and I don't think you should give incumbents a free pass here. But I don't know. I don't care which incumbent you are. I don't care if you're Donald Trump. You should get on

the stage if you if you're in acumbent, defend your record. The reason Delbert Husman's not debating he can't defend that record. He can't debate Chris McDaniel without getting trounced, and would be an embarrassing if you're an incumbent and you've been in that position, if you're if you're embarrassed by your record, then my gosh, why are you running again? I mean, if you're embarrassed

to tell people what you've accomplished, you shouldn't be running. And I'm sure y'all hit on this, but I want to say it again before we get off air. You see, you see the state of this country, and we've said this too. The way you change the country is one state of

the time, and I just want to emphasize again and again. I apologize I've already hit on this, but we have a chance here to change Mississippi for the better by getting Chris in the lieutenant governor position and then getting done in his state Senate seat, Alan Sibley, and the state Senate seat Lawrence Smith and the state Senate seat. We got a group of people here, if we could get them all elected, would change everything absolutely instantly. That's

right. Yeah, we need to do it. Yes, yes, And I know all everybody at this table is trying really hard to make all this happen. How we convinced the rest of this state that it's worth the fight,

It's it's worth learning about each candidate. And I think that's what I think drives people like us a little bit crazy, is there's such a lackadaisical attitude sometimes, especially when we're all paying so much for groceries and gas and everything's going to heck on us. This green new energy stuff, everything is just it's pilot. Our freedoms are being taken away up. Everybody should be I rate right now in this entire country, and it makes me I'm baffled

why they aren't. Yeah, kind of going back a little bit of what Dog was saying too. You know, we first started talking about Chris and this LG race two years ago started getting serious talking about it. And about two years ago and a lot of us talked among ourselves about, Hey, what are we gonna do? How are we going to convince Chris to run? There was a Facebook group that was started guy, so it was back in the fall to try to urge Chris to run, and that just exploded.

It seemed like they just gained thousands of folks, you know, fairly quickly. And so, uh, you know, there was there's been a big movement and a big push for quite some time to get him to run. And then part of that conversation was, Okay, if Chris does run, who are we going to get to take his seat? And so we've

been in this battle for a long time. And what we're seeing now is and I had a relative of a great uncle that was in politics here in Jones County years ago, and he always told me that the majority of the voters don't pay attention till after July the fourth, and so that last thirty days roughly of a campaign. Well, we're in that last thirty days and we're starting to see things move and Steve see things pick up. But this is the last you know, the last couple of weeks of what has been

a two year journey for us in pushing that. So it's it's nail biting, it's uh, you know, it's it's intense. You know, there's very little sleep going on, and you wake up in the middle of the of the night thinking about things that we can do and should do and ways we can help. And so we just want to see the masses wake up.

We want to see everybody take this seriously. You know. I wish I wish people would take it as seriously as I do, and as Dog does, and as you do, Jim, that we would wake up and see where we're headed as a country, and that we actually can do something about it. We can make the change, we can change the course in the direction that we're headed. But we've got to take action. And so now's the time. Now's the time to take that action. Yeah, honestly,

I wish I would have woken up years decades ago. I was one of those sleepwalkers. I didn't realize our society was going down the tubes. I don't think many people did realize that our society was going down the tubes. And honestly, you know, I blame a lot on Barack Obama, but I think it actually probably started before Barack Obama, but now seems to be like our last chance to stand up and stop this train wreck that's happening.

I just remind everybody four weeks from yesterday, four weeks and it's right now for all of us. I mean, I can speak for myself. It consumes every thought from the moment I wake up. I wake up every morning just wondering what I'm gonna wake up two on my phone and my wife is like, good lord, they start texted earlier. The phone's blowing up for four seven thirty every morning, and it's just you know. But I will say this, you know, jokes societe. I feel really good about

our race. The momentum is on our side right now. Of course we know what Delbert's bunch is gonna do. Yeah, but I will say I did have I do have some concerns that hit me yesterday that I guess we've been rolling along so good that you hadn't thought about and in three instances yesterday reminding me of this that there's a lot of people that still not paying attention and have no freaking clue who's running for? What, what's Chris running for?

Who's running against Delbert? What's going on? I mean people that are well, I you know, uh me and Gerald was engaged in a friend of mine from the coast just yesterday and this morning on Twitter, and one of his comments, well, I don't think Tait and Chris will be a good pair of because they're a rule with an iron fist. Well that's what Delver's doing for the past four years. And he's like, well, I'm not I'm not either side. I think uh, I think Delbert does a

good job of bringing balance. Look, there there is no Ballance anymore. There's no compromising with the Democrats. They won't there compromise with us. The only way we're gonna get anything along with them is for us keeping keeping us taxed. And I say all that just to say this, We've got a lot of work to their still. It ain't all gonna be done in a

month. But I hope we reach enough people because there's still people out there like that, And there's some of them are good people that just aren't paying enough attention, that just don't care, just don't know, just lollygagging along in life and don't have a clue what's around them. And that's a scary

thought. It is the state of our country right now. That's a scary thought because if we don't get the right people elected now, and Chris says it, if the next twenty years are like the last twenty years, people, we're in for a nightmare. We're for a nightmare. Well, and even in the local races, we're done. You know, there's I hear people a lot say, whether it's a state sent it or state house seat or even a local supervisor, they'll say, well, I know so and

so, and they're they're a good person. They're just really a good person. And my comeback every time he is, well, there's a lot of good people in Jackson making bad decisions, and the same thing in Washington. And so we've got to go deeper than just hey, you're a good person, you know. I mean, there's a lot of good people that I wouldn't trust doing heart surgery. But we need people who've got the right principles and the right ideals and that are that are willing to stand on those principles.

And I think Don's one of those in this race in District forty two. I agree. I agree. I'm gonna turn the subject to Biden here for a second, if that's all right with everybody, you know, Listen, this is mind boggling to me, just this. In the past week, We've had major stories come out, and this is the guy that's probably going to run against Trump for for presidency. One is the fact that he doesn't acknowledge one of his grandchildren, I mean, one of the disgusting,

despicable human being. And it's his wife too. They won't acknowledge the birth of a grandchild because they just don't want to acknowledge that their son, Hunter was a degenerate who had sex with a stripper. I guess, but it's not an innocent four year old's fault. Um. That's one of the stories. The second one was Biden telling the entire world that were low on ammunition. There's a there's a good thing to tell China. Please go ahead.

This is the leader of the greatest country in the world. This is the biggest embarrassment and the most scariest thought at the same time I've ever witnessed. Yeah. No, actually, and that's the reason I'm bringing this up up. I shake my head every day I go, oh my gosh. And there's people right now who think he who thinks he does it, does a great job. They're out defending him that if you listen to the media outside of Fox News, you would think President Biden's one of the greatest presidents in

history, when he's by far the worst president ever. And I'm not even finished yet. We found cocaine in the White House, you know, this week, and we can't we can't discover who whose cocaine it was, even though you know, the White House is full of probably a camera in every nook and cranny, but we don't know who whose cocaine it was. And you know, just so happens that the president's son is a known, you know, crackhead so well that I'm gonna be honest that that really doesn't surprise

me that we don't know who that was. Because we still haven't figured out who leaked the the Dobbs case decision from the Supreme Court right when it had to be one of forty five people in the whole world, the FBI. The FBI knows the tag number that Saddam Hussein had in nineteen seventy two when he pulled out of a cave in Pakistan. But they don't know one of forty five out of the Supreme Court who leaked. That doesn't surprise me.

They're not going to find well. I heard this series this morning in the radio, and I think it's a good one. They know who's cocaine. It is. What they're doing is they're waiting and trying to figure out exactly how they're gonna tell us. But here's what's gonna happen. They're gonna find some security guards or some janitor or somebody in the White White House to take

the fall far and that's who's cocaine. It's gonna be so or the or they just won't ever tell us. I just don't think they'll ever tell us. I just think that's that's Yeah, there's no doubt that the doj FBI or in the back pocket of the Democrat Party. That's got to scare everybody, because you know, we're not just fighting again, We're not just fighting to get somebody elected. Let's face it, Trump. When Trump was in

office, these people were still there. That that deep state is real, and it's a frightening proposition to try to, you know, turn around the entire I mean, we won't have to take everything down and start from scratch. I say, burn it down, Yeah, burn it down, you know. And I think I mentioned this the last time I was here.

One of one of the guys that I'm watching in this presidential race is Vivic Ramaswami, and he one of his points that he likes to make is there are three branches of government, not four, the fourth being the bureaucracy, and the people who are elected to the positions should be the ones running the positions, not just passing the one off. And so I think that concept

is what's got to happen. We've got to have people who will go in, get elected to a position, and clean house and just send everybody home and start over. You know, it can't. I don't think it can get any worse by hiring a bunch of amateurs. So let's let's start over. Yeah, I agree with you. Does anybody here? I think Biden won't be the nomination the Democrat nominee. I think Biden will get the nomination for the Democrat. I think Trump will get the nomination for the Republicans,

and I think Biden will win the election. That's okay, Well, listen, I have the same concern, and I'm sure that's a concern for you. What what do we do from there, gentlemen, I mean, where do we go from there? That's a hard conversation to have. But if we know and listen, we're all smart enough to know Biden is not going to win that election in a free and fair way. There's no way.

I don't think. I don't think he wanted in a free and fair way in twenty twenty Certainly, with the state of the economy and the state of our country right now, he's not going to win in a free and fair way the election in twenty twenty four. But say he does, where do we go from there? Well, I think that's why we've got to have such foethought and we've got to make sure we get the right people in positions.

I think this. I know we keep circling back to Chris McDaniel, and I don't mean that just to be a big, long, hour long commercial for Chris, but it's important in states like Florida, in Texas, in Mississippi and Alabama, and that we have people in those positions that will push back because if Biden wins, and if any Democrat, for that matter, has the White House for another four years. We know the direction that

we're going to go. If we don't have people in place now to protect against that and begin to push back from the state level, it's just only going to get worse. So that's one of these these races that are going on in a statewide. State wide races now are that much more important just to protect against those things. Now, let's say we do put conservatives in office in states like Mississippi and Florida and Texas and Alabama, and then we

have a conservative to get selected president. Now we're really changing things, so we're not worried about a stop gap and somebody who just stands in the way. Now we can really see things moving forward. So I think it's critical now. I think it's critical in twenty four and I think next four to five six years are going to be absolutely critical in making sure we move in the right direction or stop us from progressing in the wrong direction. Hecky,

I think that wrapped everything up very nicely in I like it. I like what you said, and uh, I like it? And does anythingbody have anything else to add here? Don you want to say anything? One last word here before you get back out in the campaign trail. I think what Mississippi's got plenty of ammunition, Joe Biden, I have some. I can tell you. I'll throw some ind Just just thoughts on Um and don you can touch on this and shore the one candidates setting the table. But just

within the last month, we got one month to go. What what do we need to do in the last month. I mean, I definitely think things need to and they are going to amp up for all of us. But in the last month, just exactly where do we need to push and what do we need to do? And that's for both and Paine for we're referencing here. Well, I think we need to stay the course. That's yeah. I've told my wife many times since February is just stay the course,

don't look at the noise, don't listen to the noise. Let's keep pushing forward. That's all we can do. Yeah, And I think too that we're either gonna pay now or pay later. So let's let's put the squeeze on Jim for his challenge from thousand dollars challenge, and let's let's get those donations into this camp. Donations in but also get out there and volunteer at knock on doors with these guys. These guys need some help too.

I mean, my goodness, there there's there's only a handful of the leadership team and they're out there every day. And I know there's a lot of people across the state helping out, but we need more, right, yeah, yeah, more, yeah, we need more about So I'm going to sign us off here for Don Hardness, for Gerald Wade, for Kelvin Dogg Smith. Jack, you love you, and I'm sure you'll be back here next week, And thank you for listening to Rightside Radio Podcast.

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