Our Greatest Power Is Love: Julie Piatt On Transformation, Shedding Beliefs, Inner Magic & Why Being Is The Greatest State Of Awareness

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I realized that I had seen the magic in everyone around me, but I had never really made the time for me to connect with me. Julie Piot is a bit of a modern day mystic. Everyone is going through major transformation. And so if we're in that moment, what is our greatest power? Our greatest power is to love. She's a true Renaissance woman. She is my most frequent podcast guest. And also my wife.

As we enter into an unprecedented moment on planet Earth, our lives are changing and will not look the same as they have in the past. The sum of her many talents is wisdom, wisdom on everything from creativity, parenting, relationships, spirituality, and entrepreneurship. To navigating life's most profound challenges, this is wisdom she has earned on the arc of being. Being is the greatest state of awareness. And in this moment, we need to be beacons of love and understanding and connection.

For those new to the show, Shri Mati, as she is known to many, is an accomplished yogi. She's a musician, a best-selling author, a plant-based chef, a spiritual guide. And the founder and CEO of Shri Mou, the startup that is pioneering the next evolution of cheese. There is grace all around you, even now. And you cannot quantify this. I can't prove it to you. I can't clock the metrics on a device, but I can tell you. These experiences are available to all of us if only we would listen.

Julie Pai, welcome back to the podcast. Thank you so much, Retro. It's wonderful to see you. It's been a minute, maybe a year. I can't remember when you were last on. Wow. Yeah, it's about a year. What's on your mind? You know, I feel it's really meaningful to just share that everyone is going through major transformation. Big change is going on in life.

And for me, my mind showed up in the form of a very severe communication from my higher self, which came in the form of breaking my elbow off on February 21st of this year. So this event shattered me, really shattered me in many, many layers. And I am not quite the same, which is, you know, I was thinking like, what's the best thing? What's the worst thing that's happened to me in this this year recently?

And it's breaking my elbow. What's the best thing that's happened to me is breaking my elbow. And I feel like that's kind of the moment on planet Earth that we're all in. We're having this opportunity to be faced with the deeper aspects of ourselves.

And what we came here to do, where are we hiding, where are we not paying attention, and what is truly meaningful to each of us as we enter into an unprecedented moment on planet Earth, where our lives are changing and will not look the same as they have in the past as it has in the past.

You truly did shatter it. It was quite devastating the break. And you were out of town, like, you know, luckily you had friends to support you and take care of you while you were, you know, in that moment of need. But the journey back to healing has been a long hard rot one for you with this. And I think it's sort of leveled you and compelled you to, you know, kind of look within in new and interesting ways.

And I was about like how you went, how you navigated that that crevasse from, you know, this kind of devastating injury to a place where you now say it was the best thing that happened to you this year. Well, I would say that I didn't handle it well. I don't think I handled it that well.

I was so not on par with my body being injured. It was, it was just really not what my plan was. And what had happened prior to the fall was I had had a series of sort of coming to a deeper communion with myself. And I had been observing the ways in which I have been mother. And I probably discuss this when I was here last time. But all the ways that I've showed up as a mother to my own children to my relationships to you to my communities to my companies.

And the way that I had been playing this role, which many women embodied humans play this role on this planet. And I'd come to a moment where I realized that I had seen the magic in everyone around me. But I had never really made the time for me to connect with me. So I had not been a mother to myself. And so it was in this epiphany that I finally in ceremony went to I call it her or that greater aspect of me of us that is informing us.

And I said, OK, I'm here. I'm here. So come through me, speak to me, guide me. I'm listening. And as I have shared on this podcast and in my life with ritual in my life, it it is actually a thing like it actually works. It's not just a sort of idea or an emotion. It actually is an energy. And so the practice of ritual, the practice of ritual. Yeah. And so this vow that I made to her this promise, this readiness with which I made myself available.

And I was invited to an investment dinner at near Arch, Matt has house one of my investors. And he said, Julie, come up for a ski retreat. It's going to be amazing. We ski. I was so excited to ski. And another friend and investor, Rodrigo also was going. Gabby has wiped and want to go. So I flipped to the California jumped in the car.

And we drove into Reno and I was about an hour late. Shreemoo was on the table. People were waiting. It was going to be an amazing three day connect with all these incredible people from all over the world. And I got out of the car. And the street was dry. Like I stepped literally on the only patch of black eyes. And it was an instantaneous. I had my backpack over my left hand, my left shoulder. And I literally fell with 100% of my weight on my elbow and snapped the point off.

So I was screaming, of course. And Rodrigo was trying to get me to breathe. And he was like, you know, Shreel, like, can you turn over, you know, can you breathe? Can you take a breath? And I was like, dude, I broke my fucking elbow off. And he still was trying to get me to breathe. And I finally said, give me your hand. And I put his hand where my bone was. And it was not in the right place.

And then he understood what had happened and everybody came out. And so the blessing of it was that I was with Rodrigo. And we were traveling between laughing our heads off and then me screaming. So it was this very extreme experience. And luckily he was there.

And I was able to FaceTime you and the kids. And you got me on a plane out the next morning, miraculously, and found me the best surgeon. And I just want to give a shout out to Dr. Modevra, who took care of me, fix my elbow. So thank you, Dr. But the the process of it was just really shattering. I mean, that's the only way I can really describe it. I had one of my most profound, um, Communions with the other realms as I was awaiting for surgery.

I had a visitation by this energy that was immense grace, immense immense grace. And she was communing with me telepathically telling me there is nothing to achieve to gain to grasp that there is grace all around you, even now. And I didn't want to disturb this energy, even a micro movement because it was the sweetest thing that I ever experienced.

And she stayed with me for about an hour and then when it left, I vomited the whole day. And I was distraught because I'm been waiting for surgery for five days. And I called you and I was like, I need an IV right away because if I'm vomiting in the morning, they won't operate on my elbow. And so when I went into surgery and, you know, Modevers team and staff, they're amazing and they had warmed the bed for me. And when I got in the bed, I just had tears streaming down my face.

Like it was, it was like a jolting into a new sort of state of awareness, I would say. And it continued from there, but that's sort of the ambiance of what occurred. And what is this new state of awareness and how is it different from your previous state? Well, it's not, I mean, it didn't stay or I would be not in my body and gone. But I had a taste of those things that, you know, people meditate for or do I wasca or plant medicine or whatever.

I asked her in ritual to come to me and she did, but not exactly how I would have liked it to have gone down. It was, it's a serious thing, you know, when you, when you claim yourself in that way. And so, you know, she gave me a taste of that. And I, you know, I've been traveling sort of in between and observing my life and experiencing life from a sort of different vantage point. I'm interested in this visitation.

It's an indescribable thing, you know, it's not something that you can think into existence. And, you know, this is maybe why, you know, I'm not generally an advocate of plant journeys, you know, for everyone. I've been pretty outspoken about that. And I should say not to jump on your words, but when you're using these words like ceremony and ritual, I think people might be confused that that means you're doing plant medicine journeys.

That's not what you're doing. No, absolutely no drug use pass my adolescence where I did a lot of drugs, but not in a spiritual intention. My point is is that we are all going through an evolution right now. And these experiences are available to all of us if only we would listen, if only we're open to listening. Now, mind you, I did not envision that this was going to go down this way. And had I, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have vowed probably, you know, I wouldn't have made the vow.

But I can't describe it. I can only tell you that it was as I was between dream and waking state, I call it she because it was a grace and a love that I've never felt in my life. And so it was her and she was telepathically communicating with me and she was reminding me that being is the greatest state of awareness and that as all the spiritual texts say and that, you know, we've all heard a million times.

Everything that you need is residing within within your own heart and you cannot quantify this. I can't prove it to you. I can't, you know, clock the metrics on a device and say I was this close, but I can tell you it was maybe the most powerful experience I've had in my life. I've been lucky that I've had quite a few of these experiences because of the way that I live my life. This was right up there. And the aftermath is the vomiting all day.

And why does that happen? It's because the frequency is so high vibrating that when it comes in and meets your energetic, there's a purging. So it's a grand purging. It's not, you know, there's a process to these these experiences. I'm sitting here thinking when you mentioned like there's no metrics or there's no device that could quantify or calibrate this and I'm thinking if you were wearing a whoop, like what would you.

I actually would have liked to have seen what was going on with you physiologically during that experience. Yeah, I mean, it was just. It was an immense it was an immense love. It was a love beyond human love. And you know, I'm saying an hour because as a human like I probably wanted it to be an hour it might not have been quite an hour.

But I was crying in love, crying in joy. You know, no one can ever take that from me like it doesn't care if anybody comments and says, oh, you know, it doesn't matter. It's like no one can take that that experience from me. And this is the power of the realms that are unseen that cannot be conjured or tracked or called upon at will. In my experiences, these aspects show up when you least expect them. And the only mechanism is to be in a state of unknowing of I don't know I don't know anything.

We know as we travel on the path that we don't know anything. And then at some point the path is gone. It's that state fueled with true pure devotion. Like you mean it. You're not like, oh, I need this because I you know, it's like it's pure it's pure in that essence. And you know, it was just such a such an immense blessing such an immense moment that she showed herself in that way. And it's taken me months to heal. I'm still not healed. My arm still isn't straight. I'm still in pain.

But you know, I'm on my way. And the lesson like what is what is it like where is the you know, what is the quality of the gift it's this honoring of yourself as this person who has been mother to many other people to mother yourself to honor yourself to love yourself to to attune your attention to yourself as somebody who has who is spent a lifetime attuning their attention on the care of other people. And then beyond that like what has lingered.

Well, it's this you know, incessant chasing of ambition or creation as something that is going to make you happy something that is then going to fulfill you know this void inside of us. And the void that we're feeling is the great separation from the one. It's a separation from her. I call it her. It could be the breath of one. It's that separation when we separate from that field and come into a body. We're already heartbroken. We're already heartbroken at the very beginning.

And then the life which is beautiful is trying to find our way back home trying to find our way. It's like the alchemist that what you were looking for you had all along. So she literally just telepathically commune that energetically with me in that moment in that very vulnerable state. You know, in that state where I was shattered. So there isn't there's not tip one tip to like it's like this this force is a mystery and she is dancing with us mysteriously.

And again, the only two elements that I have found to be vital in this equation if there is an equation is the true devotion of understanding that you know nothing. The true devotion of understanding that there is a sacred force that is holding this entire movie, this entire Maya, this entire play. And it's a beautiful experience that we've taken a human body and that we get to come in and try things on, you know, and try this and try that. And that creates evolution.

And at the end, we're all just returning home. So maybe it was I think for me, I mean ultimately for me specifically is I'm a person that can do a lot of things. And because I can do a lot of things, I've done a lot of things. And the core of my heart is I'm an artist. I'm an artist. I've always been an artist. The first word that I wrote was art when I couldn't even write.

And I've been pulled away from that connection for all different reasons. It's not it's no regret. Everything perfect. Everything divine timing. And for me, my only appointment in my life right now is with the muse. And it's as if I'm pressing my lips on the veil between worlds to allow her to breathe me to allow her to speak through me to allow her to guide me in what she wants to transmit through me.

And for me, it's music primarily, which makes no logical sense whatsoever. Because I'm just going to say I'm 62. I'm struggling with my voice right now. I have not proven to anyone that I'm an expert musician in any way. I recorded a couple albums with my kids that were the joy of my life. And I love them and I'm proud of them. But I haven't done it yet. It's not in yet. It's coming. It's coming. And it'll be the thing that if I'm blessed enough to, you know, express it.

It won't be anything expected. It won't be anything that existed before or that I'm not trying to fit into anyone's world. Similar with Shreemoo. It's it's a it's a new thing that I'm that I've had this heart longing since I was six to do.

So it makes no logical sense. It is not logical in any way. It is illogical and it is unreasonable, actually. It's unreasonable for me to think that I'm going to create a body of music that anyone's going to give a shit about, which doesn't even matter whether whether anyone gives a shit about it is not the point.

That's irrelevant in, you know, in the act of creation. But, you know, you are somebody who straddles these two worlds, the breath in between, you know, the ethereal and the material. And I think that was something that, you know, initially attracted me to you, you know, back when we met so long ago.

And here's somebody who's so committed to their spiritual life and development. And yet is also somebody who's so capable in the three dimensional material world like when I met you, you were producing yoga retreats at five star locations, you had had this, you know, garment line, you had built homes, designed homes, you've gone on to, you know, right cookbooks and be an entrepreneur and found this plant based cheese company and you have a spiritual community.

And you also write and write music and perform music and paint and sculpt and do all of these things like I'm always astonished at, at the way, like the conviction that you bring to your own curiosity and the honor that you bring to your own sort of sense of creativity, you know, and as somebody who lives much more in the material world and has, has artistic tendencies like the balance is a little bit different.

And my life and sometimes is challenging for me to meet you in that more mystical place, but you've always been my guide and my teacher into those into those realms that, you know, can be a little bit scary or challenging in terms of, you know, confronting you with your own convictions and certainties, right, like certainty is like this recurring theme.

Or at the root of so much of what divides us and I think right now we are in this delicate moment of transformation, everything feels very heightened or on the cusp of a very contentious election. There's a lot of uncertainty as to what's going to happen social media has divided us and entrenched our sense of certainty about what should be or what's right or what's true and what's not true.

And we've kind of galvanized our own convictions and and and sort of signaled our membership in a variety of tribes that are dictated by our information silos that are all bespoke depending upon, you know, our particular mobile device in our pocket.

And it's wreaking a lot of havoc right now and I will we've had lots of conversations about this where you've confronted me with my own sense of certainty about certain things right and that's made me, you know, reflect on that as somebody who can get hardened into a sense of what is right and wrong and what is, you know, what is what is where is the path of moral rectitude and where is the path of

you know ethical dilemma right now and it's confusing time for a lot of people and I think it is forcing us to confront our own convictions and certainties and biases and things like that and I think everybody's grappling with that right now I think everybody wants a sense of being able to be in community with other people irrespective of their belief systems and yet it's never

felt more challenging to do that and I think part of it is that I don't know that we're supposed to know everybody's opinions on everything in real time all the time and I'm not sure that that's in anybody's best interest when it comes to trying to find a way to cohere as a society and as individuals sitting across from each other one on one.

So it is confusing and so I suppose the choices do you dig in to your own convictions or do you loosen the reins and allow space for other ideas to, you know, be with other people who see the world differently and in good faith try to find a way to connect and understand as opposed to, you know,

convince or change people's minds. Yeah, thank you for that. I think one thing that's really dangerous is the and I'm not, you know, I'm not a political person. I'm not going to be a political person or a person who's going to be a political person or a lawyer.

Thank you for that. I think one thing that's really dangerous is the and I'm not, you know, I'm not a political expert. So let's just say that ahead of time. But it's the iron will, the iron will of a belief system that gets slammed down on the table or slam down in any environment. As a, as a lover of yoga and meditation and spiritual perspectives. One thing is I always make sure that I mention in water tiger, my spiritual community that I try not to believe anything.

Because when I believe something and I give it a weight, a lot of weight, I've created a separation between me and life, me and you, me and another. As a living energy and, you know, beliefs, I mean, if we examine what beliefs are responsible for, you would see that beliefs have been causing violence in our humanity for eons of time.

And a state of curiosity is a more loving stance, not that you have to agree with other people. You're not. You're a unique life form. And so as that unique life form, you get to choose your own perspective. You get to live and express on own perspective. But what I would say is that the agendas in the culture right now are trying to fracture us as humans. We've experienced it in our own marriage.

It is trying to explode people apart and say these absolute truths or perspectives or events. And what I, what I know is that again, the truth isn't on either side. It's not extreme all over there and it's not extreme all over there. And how do we walk in a spiritual life? It's the middle path. It's the middle. The middle, which is the way that you walk through the storm and you, and you reach the expansion.

But getting involved in emotions, it's really violence. You, you feel it in your body. You want to silence another person, make something not so. And remembering that we're creators. So with the energy we create, if I come to you with a hard line in the sand, and you feel what that energy is, versus I come to you and say, my love, tell me all about that perspective. Tell me all the reasons that you, that you, you know, I trust you. I love you. I trust you.

Please tell me everything that you have learned, that you have read, that you have discovered about that and share with me. And I'm listening.

It doesn't mean that I'm going to believe you 100% or I'm going to agree with you 100%. But my issue or my sadness has been the clamping down of an alternate reality or the then desire because I'm, because I'm not picking a side or because I don't think I'm maybe adhere to some cultural narrative, then putting me in a basket with the others that sort of think the way I think, right? So in this moment, we need to be beacons of love and understanding and connection.

And at the end of the day, we're all human and we just want love and connection and kindness and to be heard and all of these, you know, beautiful attributes. And, you know, I understand that things are very, very weighted right now. And I would say that it is an astrological planetary positioning that is mimicking that of the 60s and it's by design. So it's in it. If you look at the planetary procession of 26,000 years, we're coming through an age of awakening.

This is, this is what we're living through right now. And so if we're in that moment, what is our greatest power, our greatest power is to love, is to try to relax and understand that we don't know everything. And still vote with your convictions. Do what you need to do. Live your life. But understand there is no consensus. There are many different perspectives.

And but within that is there not a place for right and wrong and what is true versus not true. And, you know, this is, this is sort of the struggle like we are entering into this post truth world. And I think there is value in honoring what is true and calling out what is not true. Who's truth? Well, which truth? I think there are things that are true. You know, yes, everybody has their own truth. Everybody is is correct from their own perspective, something you always say.

But within that, there are things that are easily identifiable as not true and true. And do we not have an obligation to speak out against the things that are clearly not true in the interest of the collective and the coherence of our society. Yeah, I mean, that's it. So this is like the thing, which, you know, between us, I think sometimes it's a, I mean, it's an absolutely valid perspective. And in, in the yogi awareness.

So there aren't, there aren't like, well, at least in some tantric lineages, it's not rules. There aren't rules to follow. So at it, at an absolute state that if you're in alignment with yourself, the action is spontaneous right action. You're not, you're not stopping a behavior because there is a barrier there. It's a natural occurrence of being in alignment with who you are. That's, that's the state that I think we're aspiring to.

And the thing is, is that it's just, it's just not intelligent for you, for anyone to think that there is just one truth or two truth. There are billions of life forms in this planetary scape. And each one is completely unique and is living their experience of life from a unique perspective. There is no consensus. And so very difficult, like how do we work in, you know, how do we navigate social systems and, you know, I understand all of that. And that's not my area.

I'm just saying that dividing us is not going to be a win for anyone. And if you, if we can just take it down to the daily daily, where is the violence inside your own being, where is the violence against your family members, your loved ones, where is the violence in your community.

Can you really understand that each life form is an expression of God, even if you don't like them. It's not consciousness, consciousness isn't like, you know, well, I favor this party in this is, you know, all the others are wrong. It's just not how it works. And I think it's an over attachment to intellectual inputs so much talking, so much pontificating and sharing perspectives all over the place.

I think we would do better if people started meditating, meditating and getting in to the love of their heart and coming into their community and doing something loving, you know, sharing something and getting back to where I was hoping we were going to go. I really feel that art has a great capacity to be the thing that lifts us to the next expression. Well, it always has.

Well, and we're at that moment right now and it's like as artists, we're infusing our songs, our words, our books, our writings, our paintings with our frequency and that is being transmitted. And for me, it's the, it's the only communication that's pure. It's the only, the only communication that can be trusted at this point. And that takes going to that canvas to that, that veil in mystery and saying, I know nothing. Please speak through me. Please lead me, guide me, direct me.

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The answer always being found in more love, more forgiveness, more compassion reminds me of our travels to Darmshala to spend two days with the Dalai Lama, who is answered basically every question that was posed to him was some version of love more. No, it was love your mother. Well, yes, it sort of drilled down onto that, which is sort of equal parts profound and also kind of frustrating and annoying because you travel all this distance.

And you think you're going to go behind the velvet rope and you're going to get the secret information that has never been imparted before and the answer is always the same. Right. Yeah, I mean, it was kind of awesome. It was hilarious. It was almost like a set up. It was like a Saturn and I live skid or like Groundhogs Day or whatever. He just answered the same answer to every question to ask for him over two days.

And it was it was directly related to the mother. So you cannot leave that out. I mean, that is a key. That was the key. The answer is the mother's love. The love, the idea being to inhabit the unconditional love that a mother has for her child. Yeah. And you can inhabit that spirit, that sensibility, that bond, all your answers lie within that. And healing the relationship with the mother. Yeah, it's very confronting.

It was very confronting. I like how you always sort of sort of shifted a little bit off, you know, but he was very, very direct with that. And I think he just kept answering the same answer because the questions are are futile. It was an answer to stop asking all the questions, like just go back to the beginning. Go back to the beginning and also understand mother earth, you know, we are mother earth, we are nature and all the ways where we have, you know, behaved, unloving to her.

And then look at all the ways that our culture has brutalized the feminine. So for eons of time, thousands and thousands of years. So all the keys are in the mother and the mother's love is unconditional. The love, the mother is not punishing one child for having a different belief. The mother is all loving. Well, the ideal mother is exact. That's true. Yeah. That's true.

This is not across the board. No, it's not a child bond. Exactly. And you have a very difficult relationship with your mother. So it was, it was confronting and that it forced me to really move towards that challenging relationship that I have and find a way to heal it.

Because basically what he's saying is like the thing that's holding you back is this wound that you have. And if you could heal that, that's going to, you know, kind of open you up to the experience that I'm trying to, you know, basically explain to you. Amen. Yeah. His holiness. Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to do that though.

Yeah. I mean, it's the key to everything. It's the key to everything. So, you know, we're just not separate. We're not separate. You know, I was coming here today and I had Chip nail polish on my hands because I'm an artist and I'm always. I don't have time to go. I don't like doing that stuff. But anyways, so I had to stop and I had to like take my Chip nail polish off before I came in.

And I was looking at my mother's hands. It was my mom's hands that were taking the nail polish off. And I was really conscious of just how often my mother is sitting inside of me. And also my father, my father is in my body. Like I'll just be going through the day and I'll, he's present in my physical body. And, you know, we're in illusion that we think that we're separate. And we think that, you know, one idea is superior to another idea. We're all in this experience together.

And some ideas are better than others. Well, you obviously believe that. Yeah, I do. I do believe that. I don't think it's helping you. I really don't think it's helping you. Yeah, it's better in some fundamentally true though. Not all ideas are good ideas. Well, you don't know because you wouldn't know because let's say an idea that may look like a bad idea in from this perspective.

If you had a different perspective, it might be a great idea. Like if you were an aunt, a great idea to an aunt might be a really bad idea to a human. Do you see? Sure, but you're talking about human. To a mentally imbalanced teenager, it might occur to that person that it's a good idea to go shoot up to school.

That's fundamentally a bad idea. Would you not say, I guess you could tell us go out and say, well, over the course of time, maybe it turned out to be good because this and that happened, but that's a very hard argument. Well, that's a very, you know, so I'm saying, like, but I'm just saying, yeah, if you look at the extremes, clearly there are there are bad ideas out there.

But in the in the in the in the arms of consciousness, you cannot say that because consciousness is the one that is holding all the all the mess. I started writing a song yesterday was given to me a beautiful mess. I feel that's what we're in right now, a beautiful mess and an opportunity to understand that we are co creating the world we want to live in. And so if you like an idea and you feel that that idea is an idea that is benefiting the all, then go serve that idea, go spread the love.

And if you have an idea that causes another person harm or exclusion as a mother consciousness, I would have to say, maybe that's not a great idea. Yeah, it's not a great idea. So we're arriving into agreed shared upon shared upon reality here, we can stay married today, today, today, today, okay.

On the subject of feeling your mother and feeling your father, you recently went to Alaska where you grew up to deposit their ashes, they both since passed away, your father several years ago, your mother more recently. But I'm curious around that experience and how that kind of connected you more deeply to who they were. Yeah, yeah. So my mom transitioned on December 5th. And I was really happy for her. She had been bed ridden for a couple years, she was 96 and she transitioned beautifully.

So I was, it was something that I talked to her about, she was very generous and very funny, we, we actually shared our love of big rings. This is the ring that you bought me and Rajasthan after we were with the Dalai Lama. No one has a bigger ring than that. That ring is gigantic. That ring is gigantic. So we shared this love of rings and actually when she was taking her last breath, I was at her bedside and running energy through her and she had her eyes closed.

And she opened her eyes and looked at my eyes and she did a very interesting thing. She opened and shut her mouth three times, really wide and then closed. And she did it three times. And then I had the ring, not this ring, I had my domin her ring and my bracelet on this hand. And she looked at my eyes and clocked the ring and then came back to my eyes. And then she never took another breath.

And it was this beautiful exit, also hilarious because she and I, the minute I came in her room, it was like, let me try on your ring and when I traveled around the world, I always, I would always bring her big rings. So it was kind of like our little special thing that we shared.

And you know, I was sharing that, you know, feeling my parents in my, in my body and one of the things you're reminding me about when I was, when I had had surgery the day I came back, I was a course drugged up and I was sitting on the couch and the boy, I walked in and the boys were in the middle of a yoga practice and Tyler came over and put someone else's hat on my head. I think it's my dad's hat or someone else's hat on my head, but a cowboy hat and, and I took somebody took a picture.

And I felt my mom sitting inside of me during the recovery, like she was with me stroking my arms. And the boys came up, I think it was Tyler came up that afternoon and he said, Mommy's like the weirdest thing just happened like you freaked us out totally. Like when you were sitting on the couch, they were like, a baila was there. Like she was you. And I hadn't told them that I was having this experience with her.

So anyway, so my sister Vicki bless her. My, want to recognize my sister Vicki and her husband, Joe and daughter Maggie for taking care of my parents for five years. They lived with them and my dad passed away like eight years ago and we had thought my mom would follow soon, you know, he was 92. And my mom stayed around for like eight more years. And so Vicki wanted to go up, you know, they, they lived in Alaska, had careers in Alaska.

My parents, I was raised in Alaska. And they were very, very involved in the community. My mom had a clothing store there for over 30 years. She dressed most of the people in town for their important events. And my father was a structural engineer and built many of the art centers, schools, hospitals, museums for the Native corporations.

And in particular, David, David Chipperfield's museum, the Anchorage Museum was a 72 million dollar museum that my dad worked on. So they had big careers there, like a big life there. And they raised their five children there. So they had a crypt and we were waiting to take them to take the ashes together up there. So I broke my elbow and I just couldn't, I couldn't even think about going up there. And then finally saw the opening and Vicki and I decided, OK, we're going to do that.

Our other siblings were not able to make it. So it was Vicki and me and then Tyler came with and my brother Stewart. And we traveled up to Alaska. We rented the Alaska Heritage Center. It's a Native Heritage Center, which my dad helped build. And when my dad took me there, he had taken me to this Athabaskin ceremonial house that is one of the most beautiful. It's got a totem pole in the front that's not carved. But there's a portal hole, like an oval hole that you crawl through.

And then you're inside their community gathering space. There's a fire pit. There's different totem poles on all four directions. And we were able to rent a cabin at my dad's special place. And my sister ran the obituary. We were like eight years late. My mom passed away in December, but was not in touch with very many people. And I was like, Vicki, no one's coming. No one's around anymore.

But what happened is we gathered about 30 super special people really, really dear, dear relationships of my parents, of my sister, of mine, of my brothers. And we had a memorial there for them. And I had Shremu cheeseboards along with smoke salmon, which was donated by one of the guests there. And we then walked through the cultural center. And we crawled through this portal in the Athabaskin house. And we sang for my parents.

And it was perfect, like incredibly, incredibly beautiful. Stuart and Kelly, money maker, who was Stuart's wife for eight years when they were in their 20s. She was up there and she's been doing incredible work with the natives. She's doing documentaries and really working with the cultures up there and bringing awareness to climate change and how it's affecting their tribes and clans.

I learned when I was up there, I was invited to a shaman meeting that Kelly arranged with four women that were from different Alaska tribe lineages. And it was to introduce Dom and her to them and Shremu to them. And what I learned is that in Alaska, there are 32 microclimates and there are 200 dialects. So they didn't like me using the name clan or even try because they said that that's a colonial wise term that's been placed on them.

But I had told this beautiful woman, her English name is Jackie, that I wanted to wait until I had my ritual name from Dom and her, which was blue whale, Balenoza, and Zura, before I came to meet her. And when I told her that that was my ritual name, she said to me in my language, my name means the one who summons the whale.

You told me. Yeah, so it was just, it was incredible. And if four times during the meeting, I completely lost my orientation, which usually that doesn't happen to me, but it was a very beautiful meeting of energies of the way of life.

And they also live in dream time. They live much, they live a very spiritual connection connected life to nature. And I'm looking forward to all the relationships that that is opening up to me and to Kelly and Shremu and Jackie and and made up also and some of the others Amelia.

So I'm inviting some of them are coming to domin her with me, which is really great. But anyway, to have been able to be in the Native Heritage Center and honor my parents in that way was one of the most extraordinary experiences and my sister made an amazing slideshow of my parents life.

And she had reminded me that I interviewed my mom on my podcast for the life of me many years ago, maybe 2017. And so Vicki said would be great if we played it like a piece of the podcast and everyone could hear mom's voice.

And so we just randomly chose a section of the podcast and it was the section of the podcast where mom is talking about the song Moon River and about how Moon River had become the song of our family. And she tells the story of Stuart opening for jewel, the recording artist and him coming out on stage. And I think it was at the Hard Rock Cafe in Vegas and he says I'd like to dedicate the song to my parents and he sang Moon River to them that that night.

So we we listened to the whole song because the Stuart song was recorded on on the episode. So the song then played. And then when we went to the ceremonial hut and first Stuart and Kelly played then Tyler and Stuart played then Tyler and I said, 500 miles and then at the end Tyler played and sang Moon River. And so it seemed as if we had planned the whole sequence of events, but we hadn't planned anything and it's just the way that it all landed.

I had this desire I was going to take some of my parents ashes and I was going to charter a helicopter and go up on a glacier and release their ashes on this glacier. I've done it before if you traveled to Alaska, it's really a shame to not go up in a helicopter or playing because you can't understand where you are unless you go up.

I had this book. I had paid for it and Tyler was going to come with me and Tyler went to dinner with one of my brothers friends and he shared with him that there had been three fatal helicopter crashes in July in Alaska in this particular helicopter that I was to go up in. I was a little bit more motivated and chartered a boat and we went out on Prince William Sound, which is in this fishing village, which has a lot of nostalgia for my childhood.

I drove our car through the longest tunnel in the United States and arrived at this fishing village and much to my wonder in awe this abandoned building called the Buckner Building where I explored as a child was still there abandoned. I took one of the best pictures of my life, then. Then we went out on the boat. The captain was this beautiful girl from Laguna, the sound was glass. We saw eagles, a bear, sea lions, sea otter and multiple glaciers.

We arrived at this waterfall. The waterfall must be called angel waterfall. It looks like an angel. Until the left of it was this great elder face in the rocks. It really looked like Easter Island and my mom is from Chile. It looked like it was their spot. My brother and I deposited their ashes in honor of the five children in all that they gave to us. It was beautiful, like pristine, beautiful, amazing.

That's quite a story. It was quite a love affair that your parents had. It's a remarkable love story. It's very cinematic. I think we've told this story before on the podcast, but for people who are newer, who may not know, your dad was from Amarillo, Texas.

Your mom is from Chile from Santiago. They met because your mom, correct me if I'm wrong, was a secretary working for the American Geological Society in Santiago. She was engaged to an American engineer who perished in the context of performing his job, which was mapping the jungle for. Your father was his replacement. She was engaged to be married and a month before their wedding, she received the teletype message that he had drowned.

She was a secretary. He was working for the same company. My father was mapping the jungles in the Amazon and he was his replacement. He was a larger than life, sort of Indiana Jones type character who was a push pilot, a hunter and fisherman who would go out on the glaciers for weeks on end and knew his way around the outdoors, let's say. He had moved his family from Colorado to Anchorage, much to the chagrin of your siblings and a nightmare. He was not a conscious parent choice at all.

He was a memorial that Owen Skype first was invented and we Skype with mom the first time. She showed up in a fur for the Skype for the Skype. I was like, oh my god, it's Mick Jagger. I visited your home in Anchorage many years ago, is just filled with animal heads everywhere and artifacts collected from your father's life. I didn't accept any fur things when I have the skull. Curious in the context of our plant-based life.

I just say, how is this taste this good when it doesn't have salt pork in it? I love the story about the music passing down from generation to generation. It's in your genes, your brother, well-respected musician who, as you mentioned, played with jewel, but he also played with Lucinda Williams. He was in the wall flowers, had a very accomplished story career and now we're seeing Tyler and Trapper pick up that mantle and pursue their musical career.

Kelly Stewart's first wife also very accomplished musician. I was so bizarre. We're talking about mysticism and the life and whatever. I don't know if you guys remember, but I may have shared on the podcast that when I was opening the cafe in Memphis, Tennessee, I was looking for fabric for the bankette that's in the cafe.

I drove out of Memphis, not out, down the road a bit and went into this little teeny shop. To my left was the exact fabric that was my first fashion collection that was on the cover of I Magnen. I'm looking at the fabric of my collection and it's the same color scheme. It's black and gold. It really freaked me out. It was like a sign like, oh, you're here, you're in the right place. It's a breadcrumb that's there that it's just so random, not random.

So anyway, so all this time passes and I'm getting ready to go up to Alaska and have the memorial, have the meeting with the Native tribes, like I'm introducing Dom and her connecting with Kelly and Mathis, our daughter, out of the blue, decides to go online and search Julie Pia, cloning and she buys this vet or no, she sends me the Etsy listing for this vest that was from the same collection.

And I'm like, oh, my God, that's wild. Like there it is. And then I go, oh, wait a second, Kelly wore my collection when she was in the band expo, say expo, say wore the collection. It was in the LA times, it was for Gorbachev, like children charity, something that happened. I thought it was for the AMAs, but it wasn't. It was like Gorbachev charity, whatever. And they were photographed in my collection and it was in the LA times. I mean, another selling it on Etsy.

But how weird, just that I was just on my way to see Kelly, I wasn't even remembering that she had done that and then my daughter just pulls in that thread. So then Kelly bought the vest to give to Jeanette Leedsinger, like 40 years later, however. So it was just another nod of that, you know, how connected we all are and how beautiful the mystic guidance is and these signs. And if we choose to listen and see them as such. It's a good place to take a quick break. Okay.

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All right. What else you got? What else I got? Yeah. I got an offer. You got goodies on the table. You know what I thought? I would love to offer the RP listeners a really exciting giveaway. We wanted to do something a little bit different than just giving a code, just to say thank you and connect more deeply with people who want to know and experience. So what we'd like to offer is we're giving away three 12 month subscriptions of a two wheel box of Shreemoo, which is pretty amazing.

And so that will be shipped to your home or office every month. And then we're also going to include our three cookbooks. My cookbook, this cheese is nuts, which has amazing recipes of how to make plant based cheese at home, but also companion recipes of how you can use your Shreemoo in your meals. And then also our gorgeous plant power, Italia book, which is really, really a work of art. There's so many incredible recipes in this book. And this has a lot of the kind of nostalgia.

And experience of coming on retreat with us in Italy. So we wanted to share that. And then the OG, the plant power way, which is really sort of the foundation of plant curious or plant based eating. And it has all of our family's recipes from the early days. Really proud of this book still. And it's just a really good standard.

Beautiful, beautiful book, no fake meat. Really only tofu, maybe in a couple places. It's really using pure ingredients and made with love. All of this food was created and seeded on the island of Kauai. When we were there launching the podcast and creating recipes in our test kitchen. And I hope you'll join the giveaway. You just have to go to a link and sign up fill out the form. So you go to Shreemoo dot com.

We have a specific link that's going to go in the show notes. Oh, okay. So I'll just I'll put the link in the show notes on the episode page at richroll.com. And also if you're watching this on YouTube in the description below. All right. But yeah, these cookbooks spawned a lot. And it's interesting to look back on them. It's crazy. The plant power way that cover like the kids are so young. I know we're so young. And the plant power way, Italia is is sort of the sleeper book.

I think it's it is it is a work of art and it brings back so many memories, but it's really beautifully render very proud of that book. proud of you for that book. Thank you. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. Awesome. Well, that's a very generous giveaway.

Yeah, I thought it would be sort of cool to just share it's kind of like the anthology of like what led to Shreemoo. Because when I was made when I was doing the plant power way, I wasn't I wasn't trying to launch a plant based company or artisanal cheese. Well, you weren't even trying to do that when you wrote the this Jesus notes book on how to make plant based. Exactly. I was just in the exploration.

I mean, the Shreemoo is really a product of people saying I love the book. The book's great. But like, can't you just make it for me and like I'll buy it from you. Definitely. Yeah. So how's it all going? It's going really, really well. A lot of super exciting things going on. One of the funnest things of recent was that we have a couple sandwiches on a menu at an extraordinary deli called BNT's deli.

I'm on Tana Avenue in Santa Monica and Brit and Terrence are the owners and their long time podcast listeners or maybe not so long time, but they went plant based because of us. And they connected with our team and you know, I have to say that they have created two of the most delicious sandwiches that I've ever eaten in my life. I'm not a big fan of my product, but also their menu is extraordinary. I think sandwiches in general for me are always disappointing.

Like often when I'll order a sandwich like the bread's not right or the sauce isn't right or it's dry. It's just like ordering a sandwich for me in general is not high up on the list. Because I don't eat cheese. Maybe that sort of makes the options less exciting, but these guys have created an exceptional menu.

They're using a lot of mushrooms and all the flavors and high end pickles like really deli. It's deli looks and so the sandwich that you and I were at the launch for last weekend is called Le Bon Bertie. And it is a French sauteed leek homemade balsamic glaze with a rugola and they use our shremu camembert flavor, which is called Bertie. When I bid into it, I thought I was eating real gooey French camembert.

Actually to the point that I called my kitchen to inquire about the level of the cultures and what's going on and nothing has changed there. Everything is stable same, same, same. So it is all the flavors together that have produced this next level sandwich experience. Now coming up next month, they're going to release another sandwich, debut another sandwich. It's called the gold standard and that's using gold alchemy, which is the turmeric infused.

So I hope you guys will check that out. That's really cool. And then really exciting. And this is a dream come true. I've been really desiring to enter into the shremu shop like I love the experience with people eating shremu like that exchange with people eating the product and then telling me their experience and describing the flavors.

Nothing beats it because it's such a unanimous winner and that that is no matter how you're eating. So shremu's plant rich paleo gluten free keto raw dairy free organic and kosher. So what happened is is I was in CB2 Malibu and I love the design there and I cruised in there to get some props for shooting.

CB2 is a furniture modern furniture. The national school. Yeah, the beautiful furniture line. And I met Kerr who is the general manager of Malibu and I had rented and taken out some platters for a shoot because I was photographing shremu. And then the universe made her read my mind and she called me inside. I have something really exciting to ask you. But would you have a pop up shremu shop inside CB2 for the month of November in Malibu and I was like, hell yeah, I would.

So we are going to be in residence pop up shop in CB2 Malibu during the month of November. We have a fancy new cart that we just acquired that has refrigeration and freezer. And I'm very, very honored. It's such a beautiful design and aesthetic. And I'm just honored to be able to share. I'm shremu. So we're going to be doing two activation events.

One is an evening wine event on the 7th of November. And then we're doing an afternoon event on the 17th of November on a Sunday. So if you're in the LA area, marker calendar and come in and say hi. Yeah, it's very cool. It's very cool. And you have a bunch of other kind of interesting deals percolating also, right? I do. I can talk about those.

I know I do. I mean, I can talk about it. I'm just not going to show it. But so we're, we're very nearing the release of two really amazing products. One is a butter, which you just, I'm just teasing it here. It's the best thing you've ever experienced. There's nothing like it on the market. And you'll have to see this pretty good.

I'm not going to talk about my garment, you know, in the garment days when I was selling fashion, we'd be like, I want to sell you a pair of pants. It's not, it looks kind of like this glass, but it's not this glass. I actually did sell stuff that way.

This butter is absolutely extraordinary. It's in the shape of a pyramid. It is the best thing you have ever tasted. And the packaging is an evolution from our current packaging. It's really a novelty product. And it is going to rock your world. So I'll look forward to rolling that out. It's going to happen very soon. So just follow along. And maybe next time I come on, I can bring the butter.

Awesome. And then also, I do want to share my cloud nine formulation. I want to talk a little bit about it. Because I have code for people that just want to code for some extraordinary cashew mozzarella that will rock your world and is better and unparalleled in the market. It is the next evolution of mozzarella. It floats through your digestion like a prayer. It is so good. So I wanted to share that as well.

And mozzarella is for people that don't know. It's not like the dried sprinkle mozzarella. It's like the mozzarella balls that are suspended in like a brine. It's shipped in crystal salted waters. Yeah. It's a full legit. It's unbelievable. And you can like weave it into pasta. You can put it on a sandwich also. There's so many interesting applications. I made a beautiful sort of like fall or board for you. Awesome. Do you want to grab that? Yeah. We bring that over.

And so this is mozzarella, which I've made it on a traditional heirloom tomato, but you can also just have beautiful crostinis and some beautiful radicchio and dill to garnish. This is kind of a twist on a caprese. Also all the beautiful fall colors with figs. This product is just an extraordinary formulation. And I think it's you're just going to love it. So beautiful. What's the code? The code is our RP cloud nine, the number nine.

What do you get? What's this? You get 22% discount. Right. What have you been learning on your entrepreneurial journey that you think would be helpful to people who are watching or listening? Yeah. I mean, it's hard. It's hard to be a startup founder, your CEO, you're you have to manage people. You have to balance the budget. You got to mark it. You have to wear so many hats and every single day, it's just, you know, challenge obstacle challenge obstacle.

Yeah. I mean, isn't it? It's just, I think one of the greatest wisdom that I can share right now is that nobody knows what's going on. Right. And there is no formula. There's no formula. There's that's working. There's no certainty in past historical trends. And I think that the greatest asset that we can have is being able to adapt in the moment.

And to and to really, really stay in the beauty of what you're doing, the relationships that you're creating. My team is extraordinary. My product is extraordinary. And we are all working and creating at the highest level that we can to keep innovating to keep seeing the opening. And I don't think that any one lane is the ticket. Like it's, it's, it's everything all at once. And then tracking in in real time, what's, what's working and what isn't working and pivoting and shifting.

It is a right, right brain left brain kind of exercise, right, because fundamentally what you're saying is you have to trust your intuition. You have to kind of be present and check in with yourself about what feels like the right direction or kind of decision to make.

But you have to balance that against all these people that come in money people like I've done startups or I've raised money or I'm a venture capitalist or I'm an investment bank or I'm a private equity guy. And here's how you do it. Like and here's how I grew this other company from X to Z or whatever it is, right. And that can be intoxicating and also confusing, right.

Like do I trust this person is that the right avenue for me sometimes, especially when your back is up against the wall and you feel challenged, you want to feel like like somebody's going to come and just make it all OK. You know what I mean. And like solve all of your problems. And I think that one of the lessons that I think you keep learning or you've learned, you know, time and time again is that, you know, no one's coming to save you like it really is a journey that you're on.

And it is your intuition that has always kind of like guided you. And that doesn't mean that there are people that come in and you're like, this is the right person to add to my team or I should listen to this person. But trusting your own council and your trusted circle of people to run these kind of decisions by I think has been I've watched you do that time and time again feels like it's like a fundamental kind of part of, you know, how you, how you.

You know, make decisions about how to guide this mothership. Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's, it's definitely going to be unique for me. It's a, and it's unique for each entrepreneur like you have your own path, you know, it's not a cookie cookie cutter formula. And I also think that I've been cured of some of that illusion just at just, you know, miles on the road and and being excited and then going into expectations and then finding out, yeah, that's not an alignment.

I think the number one key thing is to be very discerning about the money that you take and who you align with it's really everything. I will say though that now in my evolution, you know, in the beginning years like she was my baby and I had to keep her pure and I, you know, I had to do it on my own. I had to name it what I wanted to name it.

I had to do all the formulations. I had to do the branding. I had to really choose the investors and how I wanted to invest choose the stores that I even wanted to be in. And I've done all that very, very intentionally. And now she is at a place that she is ready to go to the next expansion. So I have margins perfected production perfected facilities, you know, health certifications organic certifications.

There is there isn't any formulation in the market that touches that gets anywhere near what I've created and I already have 40 other formulations like I'm on a leash right now. So right now I'm also like in my state of mother. That is evolving. And so as the mother of Shreemoo, I'm now stewarding her into her next expansion. It's not like I have to hold her in a certain state and I have to iron will control everything.

She's been fully birthed fully birthed in all those different ways. And I want her to reach millions. It's a global vision. And you know, I've been contacted from people in the EU recently, you know, the vision is big. And I am an artist and I have done a beautiful expression of my, what my gift is. And I am a great leader and I have a great team and I'm so grateful for them. And there's more to move it out. So now's the time that I'm open to that, that next relationship.

And, you know, I'm sitting on, well, as my friend, Kristina Carlyne, I told me, sitting on a billion dollar. Not today, not in today's dream, but it's all here. So, and, and you know, after the elbow break, I reassessed a lot of things in my life, you know, and she just has a very exciting timeline in this world.

People absolutely love this product. So anyway, it's going to be an amazing. It is exciting. I mean, you have nailed the product like all the fundamentals and the essentials are like sort of taking care of and you're at that stage where

all the things that you did to get it to this place are not the same things that you need in order to get to that next place. It's like the natural evolution of any business like I went through it with this like kicking and screaming and probably too late and all of that and had to learn some of those lessons the hard way.

But you're a much more seasoned serial entrepreneur like you've been in this place before a couple times. And so you're, you seem to be welcoming it like you're like, you know, you're like, you're like, bring it on, you know, I mean, as opposed to no, I need to control every little detail or if I let anyone else touch it, it's not going to be the same and all of that kind of stuff.

I mean, I've done a lot of things and I've and I've made a lot of courageous moves. I mean, I moved my company across the country, you know, and I've had to make, you know, changes in my team of the universe has made changes in my team that has been very, you know, a very intense experience.

There's been a lot of a lot of growth and a lot of evolution and a lot of perfection. But it's like, now we're sitting with all of the inputs, like they're just, they're all there. So now all it is as a matter of eyes on her and how that's going to be. And you know, we're moving into food service.

I'm I can announce this now. We're going to be doing a partnership with urban remedy, which is really exciting. That's super exciting. That was the thing I was trying to tease. I wasn't sure whether you could say that out loud. And, you know, very aligned with Nika, the founder. She's an extraordinary one. And explain what urban remedy is. Urban remedy is an amazing. It's high vibrational food. It's it's a raw nutrition. And it's kiosks in.

It's like grab and go kiosks all over the place. Really high vibe food. And, you know, Nika is just just an amazing incredible entrepreneur that has created something extraordinary. And we've been trying to get on with them for a while. But as a new company, we had to go through the safety process. And, you know, it's all it's all miles on the road. Like, you know, all those little things that you don't realize you have to contend with.

You know, what goes on the label and the size of the typeface. And, you know, what is, you know, required in order to get your organic certification and all of these kind of regulatory hurdles that you're constantly having to overcome. Yeah. It's never ending. It's never ending. And also just, you know, a new company like mine, like we really need support. Like I'm so grateful for the RP listeners that order that have ever ordered from us.

The ones who subscribe. You know, it is keeping us alive. Like it, it is really, really, really appreciated. And it makes a big difference. And just reminding everybody that we make the most extraordinary gift for the holidays for Thanksgiving, for Christmas. It's such great packaging and it's consumable and it'll be novel and interesting. So we're just ready to serve. And really the core of Shreemoo is community. It's all about that food in the mouth experience that exchange.

And like it be in T's last weekend, it was so cute. Like these three young girls came up, like maybe in their late teens. And they were just, you know, going through every flavor and just loving all of it. And it's always so fun to have food bring us together because food is really the most powerful ritual that we have as a humanity. And so maybe rather than separating and getting caught in constriction of fear of what's going to come.

And it's going to come of what is going to happen. Maybe we should show up at our neighbors with a beautiful box of Shreemoo and find a way to commune, find the commonality, find the connection because I guarantee you at the core of every human being are the same desires, drives, hopes, dreams and needs. We're not separate and we're not different. And I really believe in humanity. I know I don't like to have beliefs, but I have a lot of.

You're holding on it. You're holding on to one. You have certainty around that. Certain to you around it. Yeah. This is going to be your doom. I have to it's celebration of humanity. You know, it's like humans are amazing life forms, incredible life forms. And there are also many other life forms on this planet that we are going to be entering into.

Oh, no, more incredible like the trees or let's talk about mycelium or the mountain, the stones that hold the rocks, the water that holds the codes and the memories of our entire planet, the ice, you know, the ice that I was communing with in Alaska. And it's like what's really weird right now is I would say one of the changes since the visitation experience. I see beans and nature. I always saw beans in nature like, oh, yeah, I can see that.

It is on amplified beyond to the exponential. I am literally seeing faces, beans, floating out of different mountains, trees, leased like it's all over the place. And maybe it's a heightened creativity. Maybe it's from all those years. I was talking about the the abandoned building, the Buckner building and Anchorage.

It was this military building that had a bowling alley, a prison, a jail, a bowling alley, a jail, a ballroom, a surgical suite. And it had an underground tunnel that led to the electric company. And as a kid, we played in that building. It was like the shining and we didn't have iPhones. We couldn't like, you know, shine it down the we were just us.

And I have a scar on my leg where I fell and cut my leg on a beer bottle that broke. We were going to drink one beer with like when you're in high school. No, not even high school like junior high less. And the crazy thing is is that we hiked those mountains behind the Buckner building and Prince William sound all day, every day without any supervision, no bear spray, no phone, no water, no, no gun, no one even knew where we were.

And that experience was just really impressed upon me this time, especially being out on the boat and in the sound and seeing all the wildlife. And I brought a stone back from one of the beaches that we stopped on as the frequency of that place of my childhood where I, you know, I I lived with nature, like lived I lived on the edge, like nobody knew.

I mean, it's it's kind of amazing that you ended up unscathed from all those experiences, but but people were dying all the time, right? Like, oh, well, Joe, you know, didn't make it back from whatever, you know, like a bear got him or somebody fell down a crevasse. Yeah, in my brothers, definitely him in my brother in my high school, like my brother was a Paul bearer in about eight of his friends died when he was in high school. Like how like that's a lot.

That is a lot. And it was maybe one from suicide, but a lot of it from, you know, motorcycle accident car accident. Well, those are more normal. But you know, some machine bears glacier, you know, bush playing, fishing, cornice and Denali in high school. Wow. And you always had this feeling like Alaska is unforgiving. So I was just talking to the guys in the break and sharing about Alaska and it was like, you know, the nature is so pristine that it's the best day you've ever had in your life.

Like that boat trip that I did with Tyler and and a Stewart and putting my parents in the in the sound, it's one of the best days of my life. And then the hanging of the depression and I was I was trying to get into what is the sadness that is felt in that land. Is it the sadness of the indigenous peoples like it's intense like it is not we couldn't wait to leave. I mean, we loved it, but we also were like we got to go.

Well, there's a gravity to it. It's heavy like anything that happened like you are in danger there. Plus it's gray and it's precipitating all the time and it's cold. So it's like it's not exactly, you know, conducive to like, you know, a cheery mood. Especially not for you. Yeah, I struggle with that. Yeah. So it was wild. I mean, I would say that it definitely cracked open my literary creativity and

that I felt and what a spirit of life it was. So this is really, I've been experiencing it. I have seen it, it's opened, you know, topped off Daldramatic and Yang heights. like of the trees and the mycelium, I was reminded of this experience I just had attending the retreat, the summit for Regen Ventures, which is this venture fund that I'm on the advisory advisory board of that was founded by a guy called Dan Fitzgerald who's an amazing individual

who comes from the investment banking world. And in part due to the tragic death of his daughter his wife and his daughter Frankie who died, I believe it aged nine two years ago, from a rare form of cancer. He made a career transition and decided to figure out a way to take his skill set and leverage it for the benefit of all. And he created this venture fund that

invests in very cutting edge climate solution regenerative technologies. And so I got to spend a day and a half with Dan and his collection of founders who were all young people doing wild shit. Like you mentioned mycelium, there was a founder there who's basically creating a library, a collection of like every form of mycelium known demand and is on this

like discovery mission. And what can be learned from that data set in terms of like new applications for all kinds of things that would be a more sustainable solution to many of the products that we now use. There was a young Chinese chemistry PhD from Cambridge who has figured out how to create leather in the way that in a in a by way of a process, I don't fully understand that has some you know kind of bear some relationship to what umovalati is doing to create meat, right? Like

creating real leather, but not from an animal. There was a guy who figured out there's a microbe that that exists in the the calderas of volcanoes that could be replicated that sequesters carbon. And I guess somehow also is a way of producing food like crazy stuff, right? So so I left that experience hopeful, you know, like here are young people, really smart young people who are identifying and

executing on like these amazing solutions. There was an Irish founder who him his partner partners have created this robot that crawls along the bottom of the ocean and implant seagrass to like regenerate the sort of underwater ecosystems like really cool stuff. Yeah, so there's there is there is I too believe in humanity and I can get caught up in my you know dystopian you know gloom scenarios. And you know really like in the in the election like

whoever wins it's not the end of our civilization like it's just I hope not. Of course it's not. Of course it's not. Well civilization civilizations end all the time. Well I know but I mean what I mean is not it's not the end of life on earth maybe I should say it's not the end of life on earth. I mean and the point that we should we could remember if we wanted to is remember the energy you're putting out in the world. So counter it counter it with holding the vision that of course nothing's

going to happen. Of course it's going to be guided. Of course it's going to be much better than what we feared. Of course all you have to fear is fear itself. It's just not. You know we've been in similar spots throughout the the evolution of our society. It's not the worst time and it's also the best time you know. So where are you going to invest your energy because where you put your attention is what expands. So we should put more into celebrating these incredible innovative

fresh human minds and hearts that are creating a better world. You know and you can say well that's you know that's that's not intelligent or that's too polyanna or it's too but we are going to start to realize more and more how much our thoughts create a reality and how much the mind is affecting the quality of life, the state of mind. And if we're intelligent enough to choose why not choose an expansive scenario instead of a horrible scenario. So I just you know life will

go on no matter what happens just get some Shreemoo coming in. Put putting a button on it with the plug. Yeah get some Shreemoo remember that you are loved and celebrated no matter who you are listening to this podcast and go out and be with the ones you love. Be a bridge reach a hand out to someone and go out in nature and create whatever it is that's inside your heart that you love what your biggest desire is. What your biggest excitement is go to your biggest excitement

and concentrate on that and you know what will be will be you know. I'll put I love I did want to say like I love the idea that you're kind of expanding your offerings and kind of moving into this exploration with food service. And on that point like if you're a restaurant tour, if you're a chef, if you're a caterer, if you're I don't know you know anybody who is in that food world like and this interests you you should definitely reach out to Julie like it's cool that

that Shreemoo is finding its way onto menus and various restaurants and in these sort of boutique shops because we think of it like well it's either you order it through the website or it's in some grocery store right and right now it's in Air One and Los Angeles but there are all these

other kind of cool more community based opportunities that that are more connected to this idea of like community building right like when you're on a when you're on the menu and a sandwich in a in a small little restaurant or little shop you know and people are walking in off the street

and there's a story to be told like that's a different experience totally different experience and we are actually we have a chocolate mousse actually that's doing very well in food service right now that's incredible so you get it the magic castle right that's right magic castle so if you go to

magic castle most famous sort of magic experience in the world it's like sort of this iconic institution here in Los Angeles like your deserves on the menu that's just cool so anyway thanks for that yeah and also even you know chefs like we recently just connected with Paul Gerard who's

an amazing chef in the community and he's been using Shreemoo and his offerings with his clients and he's loving it and the stuff that he's making is just blowing our mind so we're just into the collaboration we want to connect with you we want to know you and we want to we want to make life

together you know so that's why I'm so excited about these collaborations and really being in the community because it really is you know with Shreemoo there's a connection made over this ritual of food over this food so all right thank you all right well come back another time thanks

thank you all thanks I love you appreciate all your wisdom share today and if people are interested in learning more about you and Shreemoo they go to Shreemoo.com, SRIMU.com if you want to pick up the cloud nine use code RRP cloud nine and you get a 20% what is that to 22% discount

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about what you're doing. Thank you thanks babe um yeah so if you uh want to join me for some life guidance and spiritual counseling um I have an online platform called water tiger it is a way to no way um it is honoring the individuality in each being and it's a living portal now of

over 50 techniques that you can stream and select at your uh discretion and uh we have a monthly call for two hours where I transmit planetary updates um and also answer questions and give life advice on every single aspect of what it means to be a human being so if that interest you

um you can find it on my Instagram um at shrimati sri m a ti or also at my website juliepiet.com we have some exciting new offerings in that with healing emergence that deal with specific issues like trauma like opening creativity like uh creating boundaries in your life um and embodying health and vitality so if you're challenging any of those areas um we have uh emergence that are specifically designed to target those areas so I hope to see you there. All right thanks let's do it again

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