‘Fargo’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Kyle Brandt

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Too long. Too long, buddy. Too long. Demolition man's just sitting there for all sitting there. There's some that we haven't got to. But Bill, the headline here right now is do you know that right now this is the first time in my life I've ever been in the same room with Chris Ryan, ever? So first we've never met in person. This is it.

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Their accounts start private by default. For those under 16, direct messages are turned off. Only friends can comment on their videos. When safety comes first, Discovery can follow. Learn more at TikTok.comslash Guardians Guide. Everyone has a favorite Cohen Brothers movie. I asked you for a list a while ago. Um hey, if you wanted to do a rewatchable, send me 80s, 90s, 2000s. You sent all these lists.

Really fun list by the way. Thank you. A lot of stuff that I liked. We've done a few of them. Mm-hmm. Fargo was on the list. Yeah. So why? So my headline is a hot take. It sounds like one. I think Fargo is a perfect movie. And I know we're gonna poke holes in it. We're gonna have to. Tom Hanks said that as well. Not a hot take. Is that true? Tom Hanks said literally said that. That was his take on the movie. I'm the rewatch seat. I love hearing that.

There's not it's not only there's not a scene I don't love, I don't think there's a moment I don't love. There's not a character I don't love. It's one of the best scripts ever written. It's on the shortlist of best movies to not win best picture. It's terrifying. It's hilarious. It's romantic. It's violent. And there's a lot of great movies. I feel like it's a perfect movie and I say that

fully believe in it. It's an I'm love that we're doing it. Perfect movie, you know, if you do the big five for Oscars and it's the performances and you're like best actor, best best picture, whatever. This one has the five tools. It's like best music. Yep. Best shot movie, one of the best shot movies I've ever seen.

best script I've one of the best scripts you'll ever read and three or four of the best performances you're gonna get in a film. And it's so distinctly them while being part of like this amazing tradition of film noir movies. from the previous decades. It's just an incredible creation. And to Kyle's point, man, you're watching this.

Talk about a perfect game pitching performance. Not one scene doesn't have a point, not one action doesn't have then a causal relationship to the next thing that happens, you know, and it's just So funny and so sad at the very same time. It's like almost like

the perfect distillation of what the Coens can do well. Ninety eight minutes. Amazing. We don't have Craig today in studio. He's coming in later. But Craig's a hundred minute rule. This is within two minutes. Minus two. So when you say perfect movie, this is about as close as it gets. I

I think my favorite Cohen Brothers movie is um No Country. Yeah. But it's like one A, one B and it's hard not to watch this movie and think of No Country a little bit too. You're very much in conversation with each other. Similar themes and it's a more blown out version of what they did here. The the thing that's crazy here is it's like those Like those Greg Maddox games from the nineties where it's like I threw a two hitter, I threw eighty-eight pitches, I struck out eight.

Uh two guys got on base. Um and uh and the game was over in an hour and forty nine minutes. Maddox was throwing a fastball that's eighty eight miles an hour. This one also has Randy Johnson's fastball too. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's a hundred plus. The the runtime thing you can't get around. I just named six different genres that this movie is. You should need two and a half hours to fulfill all those genres.

It is so tight. I keep saying it like every single scene I love. There's not a single pea break. There's not a single filler scene. Like, all right, enough with this. Let's get every scene is the good stuff. It really the perfect game analogy is what it feels like. It was like

I don't even know if they're ever behind on the count, you know, like n let alone a base runner. Well the controversial scene is when she runs into Mike from high school. Right. But that scene's really important. It's hugely important. Yeah. It's the whole reason she ends up going back to see Jerry.

It's that it's not only is it plot important, but it's theme important because it's about the um facade that all these people put up. It's about like Jerry with his suit and his pin and is like, Hey, I'm gonna sell you the true coat, you know? And it's like but actually this guy This guy's life. Is going down the fucking drain as you watch him on every single scene. If you know where Jerry ends up, this is why it's a great rewatchable to watch Jerry in the first scene in the first moment.

Every time he interrupts, interacts with Scotty, you're like, this guy is living a lie, and Mike is too. And even though Mike is vulnerable, quote unquote. He's vulnerable, but it's a complete fiction. You know what I mean? He's crying about something that didn't actually happen. You know how you know it's perfect too? Even the kid actor doesn't annoy me. The kid actors always annoy us. I think Scotty's good. Like he does his part perfectly fine. Even he is well cast and performs well.

And I love, I mean, the the Yanaguita scene where we talk about a lot. It's probably my favorite scene in the movie. There's two schools of belief about it. There's this whole section of the fanhood that think it's hilarious because it's the most random scene in cinema history and serves no point. It's just a funny thing that Cohen brothers wanted to do. Then there's the second layer they're like, No no no. It's incredibly instrumental because

After Margie sits with Yanagita, she starts thinking about being lied to. Yes. And she knows that Jerry lied to her in the car dealership. I rewatched it again this week after reading that. There's two scenes of Margie just driving by herself. And she does some real face acting, Bill, and she goes

Like a little tiny Oscar went in thing where she's like, hold on a second, and then she's in Leningrad's office all over. That's right. That's amazing. There's also a third layer to it, which I think I I hadn't really thought about before. And maybe this is a little TV brain because you start to be like, What if this is what this is really about? But she dresses much differently to go meet Mike. She puts on makeup and like most of her domestic life with Norm is like

All right, let's go eat the smorgasbore and let's go downstairs and watch a little TV. And I but there she's in Minneapolis at the Radisson. Like what like I'm not saying that she was gonna do something about it. Chris, I danced around a hot take about that. But I think she wants to feel

observed in a different way. She definitely does. And I think that that's like that's a third layer of a scene that is just like a thr not a throwaway, but is like a comic tragic move midway through the second act of a movie that then goes into this relentless overdrive of the Well how about a movie that where she wins best actress, but we don't see her for the first thirty four minutes of the movie. What a flex. It's I I don't know of any other movie that

Taken that long. We've seen movies where the characters come in later. The best supporting actors maybe. Yeah, but not not this, where the the whole third of the movie is done. But it actually makes sense when she comes in because there's no case yet.

Didn't you clock that watching it? When when it goes to the Marge thing? I paused it too. And it's a p it's a paint one of Norton's painting and they're in bed. I'm like, Holy shit, we're just seeing Marge now and the movie's a third over. I did the exact same thing. Yeah. So I watched this movie with uh my budding film buff, my son. That's right. Who knew nothing. Like nothing. He was really excited that it wasn't a long movie. Yeah, but he it got a couple woes, but then at the end of the movie

He just kinda did one of these and he's like, I'm gonna chew on that. What was that about? Mm-hmm. And I and I said Just sit with it. Sit with it. Let's talk about it tomorrow. It's like all right, I'm gonna sit with it. And then we talked about it the next day and

Basically I think he he kinda figured it out. I had to help him a little bit. You know, he's young. He's eighteen. But what did he con what was his conclusion? It was just like this the whole point is that evil could be anywhere, even in the most simple place. Yes. You could have

Dumb, and competent, normal, the all these pro all the stereotypes of people who would live in this part of the country, but you never know what could emerge and this is how it happens. And that's I think what the movie's about. That your son is on his phone while he's watching Fargo. He wasn't. He was locked again. No, B Ben's in a in a I kept I kept sneaking peeks over him. Yeah. Ben's like watching two thousand and one. He's in a Kubrick and shit like that all of a sudden. But

I kept peeking over to make sure, but that this movie is so engaging. I know. And it moves so fast. And even like when they get the escorts. And it's just there's a scene, she's riding him, the other guy's in the other bed, then they're watching the tonight show, we move on. It's like twenty seconds. I know but it's just trying to get so much done.

I think if they made this movie now with in the wrong hands, it's two hours and twenty minutes. Well, I mean I think you could see sort of a version of this in the series that Noah Hawley made that's inspired by the show, which is a lot of interesting stuff.

And a lot of like interesting expansions on some of the themes of Fargo. It's never really related, although there's some like cross there's some stitching that goes back to Fargo. It's not but it's not explicitly a remake or an extension of it. But it's it's got a lot of filler. I mean, he's making like eight hour, ten hour movies of each season and it's kind of antithetical to the sort of what the the Cocoans were really doing here.

I think to your point about like evil can lurk anywhere, it's also about how some of the stories that I think that these guys are so obsessed with the Hollywood gangster and crime films of like the forties and the fifties that we always associate with New York, Chicago or Los Angeles. And it's like Raymond Chandler and a femme fatal and a kidnapping or whatever. It can happen anywhere. Like it's not the place. That is the home of the

of the evil or the bad stuff or the crime. It's not Hollywood in nineteen forty nine. You know. And it they can be in the in a snowblown tundra or in downtown Los Angeles in the forties. It doesn't really You know what the Coens love? They fucking love a big case of money.

It's it's it's I mean it's one of the lead characters in no country. They love that. The case of money shows up in Lebowski as the ringer. Like they love that. They love kidnappings. Yeah. Yeah. Joel Clone talked about how it's just like And just an amazing dramatic conceit because it basically does a stress test on all the characters, both the kidnappers and the and the victims.

of like you're being put into a position that you have to consider things you never thought you'd have to consider in your life. How much is somebody worth? What would you do maybe to get over on somebody? What would you do with your partner who you're doing it with? Like all this stuff comes out. Yeah, I wrote down some common themes from their movies. Let me know what you agree with. Okay.

Everyday people in increasingly crazy situations, which always works in a movie. Like even if you think about a movie like Say Anything, like her dad is involved. He's getting in trouble with what was it, the IRS or the insurance he was stealing from the nursing home. And he's trying to cover it up. Like they love that. The evil starting in the most simple, unassuming places

But also with some of the dumbest people possible. Um it seems to be something they're attracted to over and over again where it's like, Can you believe these fucking Nimwits? Yeah. But this is like this is thirty years Uh this movie's literally thirty years ago. Came out right now March eighth, nineteen ninety six. But you think of the true crime shows, whether you're watching like a Netflix show or even like those

2020 shows on Hulu. Mm-hmm. It's always these people that you're just watching going, Why did they think this was gonna work? And there's this prescient the title card at the beginning of like everything here is true except for the names, which we ch changed to spare them. But it's like Yeah, they made that up. They made that up. Yeah. And like the people have gone through like old new papers to try and figure out what case this is about.

And then like they've kind of let it linger. They are tricksters in that way. Like they'll they'll play around with the audience expectations. Couple other things. What do you got? Somebody making a plan and you can't make a plan. Cause it's the old saying about Man makes a plan, God laughs. Yeah. Uh they find humor in everything. Which I think uh one of the things that I think has been ripped off from this movie And I don't know I don't know if it's fair to say ripped off, but maybe influenced.

But like I think of a show like Barry. Mm-hmm. Um, or I even think of like the Sopranos when they lost the Russian in the woods. Like uh you can just see the Fargo DNA all over the directed by Steve Buscemi. Yeah, and I don't know if I fully realized that for a few years, but Yeah, when we had hater on that time when we did No Country and he was talking about it basically like he wanted to do Barry because of the Cone Brothers. I think that they especially shoot violence in a way that

To me, it's almost unique. I'm sure there are other examples, but it basically confronts the viewer with both the like high comedy and and deep. Trauma of violence. So like you take, we'll get to it, but like the highway scene, the state trooper scene, which is kind of funny. Yeah. And it's kind of funny watching him drive like a Keystone cop after the guy and stuff like that. But it's also so

sad and scary. Another hilariously funny part is the payoff of the the ticket gate agent where he comes into the second one. Can I have your ticket and he just blows a guy's head off? That's a horrible thing. And it's so fucking funny. Yeah. Yeah. That's why like I I have really vivid memories of scene in the the in the theater'cause it was so unique and

I just remember sitting there being like, I don't know any of these actors. Like I knew Bascemi'cause I was into Tarantino at the time, but like never seen Macy before, never seen but I didn't know them.

And I remember people laughing so hard at different parts of the movie that were supposed to be funny and weren't supposed to be. I just left as a 15 year old or whatever I was like just feeling like it's totally unwieldy. Yeah, I didn't get it, but it was. What was that? What genre was it? But like I'm seeing it again tomorrow.

You know what? So the opening credits. Mm-hmm. You cr like CR was talking about how when they usually make movies like this, they're set in these cool locations and it's big fancy lavish, whatever. And they do that in the beginning. And it's just basically a A a truck that's towing something. Yeah. Coming out of a blizzard. It's the most mundane thing you could possibly see on a highway in Minnesota.

But the way they shoot it, you think it's gonna be this awesome dramatic thing. But it's also like, oh that's a car. It's the I mean the music is gorgeous, Caribbean. It's amazing. It's the moment Jerry can't come back now. Like he's given them the car. Now it's now it's too late to do it.

Once you set something in motion, you can't pull it back. And he tries to pull it back multiple times and it doesn't work. I got I mean I I have that for Great Jack Gordo, the first shot of the whole fucking movie. Like how perfect is that? With the music. With the combo of everything. Yeah. You know, they oh, go ahead. Well, the only other thing I had was about how you could have

The best plan ever, but bad luck. I think the coin flip they really tied that into the most. Yes. You just never know. Like Anton Shigur. Kinda nailed everything. He's throwing no hitter down the stretch there and then just gets hit by a car and that's it. Yeah, his bones sticking out of his arm and he just fucked up. Um they when they make this movie they're at the end of

probably or they're they're sort of right at the end of one of my favorite runs in cinema history. They open first movie's blood simple. Then they do Raising Arizona, Miller's Crossing, which is probably Is that your favorite? It's top two with Bladowski. Yeah. Barton Fink Hudsucker Proxy. Hudsucker proxy kind of a disappointment. commercially'cause they had Newman in it, supposed to be this big movie. So they're like, Oh m you know, what are they gonna

And they go and make this movie for six million dollars. Yeah. It's a Oscar winner. It's a pretty big success relative to its budget. And then after that it's Lebowski and O'Brother. And it's like one of the great runs of direct for directors. I think In in movies. I was a slow burn with Fargo. I I think it's a classic rewatchables example of I liked it, but then

It was a jump into you know, and oh oh uh oh oh I alright. And then all of a sudden I was like, I get this movie. Yes. It took me sometimes the movies don't sit okay perfectly in your brain for a while.

And this one, No Country was the other one for me that I just never liked the ending. No, I never liked the ending initially. Oh, I didn't either. I still don't. And then as I got older, I was like, I fucking love the ending, man. Tommy Lee Jones. Like he just he doesn't want to be out there anymore. Yeah. I feel like we deserve to see Lou Ellen. As it transpires.

The way it is in the book and the way they shoot it, they're uh it's it's if we ever re- re-country, I'd love to do it. The cone heads want to go to war for it. They don't like people disparaging the ending of No No Country. I love the movie. I I wanted to see Llewellyn and how it how it happened.

I don't like that they took that from the case. What's the type of movie that they didn't make that you always wish wish they could have made? They made almost everything. Like would you want to see their version of Roadhouse? Ha ha ha They're gonna stand on the shoulders of Rowdy Harrington. Yeah, I would like to see that. Yeah, I think I would like to see that. I would like to take on cash? No, I don't it really feels like they explored the studio space with

The first movie I ever saw in the theater with my wife ever, we were just starting to date him was Burn After Reading. And um

Like it blew both of our fucking minds. Like we didn't know what we were watching. Like really, really weird stuff. And there's a sex machine in that movie. And it's like I it's right. Brooke could hang with it. My wife. She was like, I thought that was funny. I was like, I'll marry you. Yeah. So I feel like the Cohn brothers helped us out with that. One thing they're good at. that uh is underrated as sex and violence is so mundane in their movies.

Where even in this when they cut there's just like that. Escorts riding Bershemmy the second time. It's so what did she say to him? I hear bells. Come on now, show the jab, throw out the jab, and he's loving it. I have quite a bit for Buscemi and What's Age the Best. It's almost a special Steve Buscemi category for me. Right. So Joel Cohn said about the uh William Mason character. I hear bells.

What is that? I didn't know what sort of ro s there was some sort of role playing going on. I was never sitting on the planes today with the subtitles on. I learned a lot of things I never knew before. Yeah, the dialogue but that made me think there was Oh, I thought some extra thing to it. That's very funny. I didn't actually ever think it was she's really like in character doing something. So Joe Cohen said about the William Mason character.

They found interesting his absolute incapacity for even one minute to project himself into the future. So that he might evaluate the consequences of the decisions he's made. There's something fascinating about his total inability to gain any perspective. He's one of those people who build a pyramid but never think for a minute about it crumbling.

And this is like this is every true crime documentary. These people who are just like No, I I'm one move away from un and then I can get away with this and it just they're just making it worse. I don't know if there's like a sort of

Super pathology that encompasses being addicted to something or being in incredible debt. But the way that Every single thing is just like I have to fucking put a band-aid on the gaping wound that I have so that I can then put my hand back here to stop the bleeding over here. And it's like the things that he doesn't care about at all are his wife and son. It's just the inversion of a real person. I know. Yeah. Where he's just like, it's so incredible. And the fact that

Through all of that, he's still kind of selling cars. Definitely. He's moving products. He's the executive sales manager. Jerry Lundegaard. Uh hadn't totally happened for our guy Bill Macy yet. No, career wise. Man it stuff, right? Like he tried out for um a lesser role. I think he tried out as the cop who gets shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's a detective in it. Yeah. Something. But uh he was at Mr. Holland's Opus the year before.

He goes on this run of Fargo, Air Force One, and Boogie Nights all in a row. And by Boogie Nights, it's like, I love this guy. Yeah. You know. Um, and it's somewhere in here that he becomes Bill Macy. And then when you just see him, you knew it'd be a good thing. But I don't I don't think it

A hundred percent existed yet. When did when did Sports Night come on? Late nineties. Because I always remember his end of Sports Night that he does a married Felicity Huffman. Yeah, he does like a two episode or three episode art. Uh, that's like I'm gonna save Sports Night from the network or something like that.

Favorite Bill Macy ever or would you have something else? No, I mean I I again I just remember being in the theater being like, who the fuck is this person? He's like the best this is the best acting I've ever seen in my life. And then afterwards, you know, he starts showing up with Harrison Ford in Air Force One. He's in Boogie Nights, my favorite movie of all time. And my my favorite part about Bill Macy and Boogie Nights. is there's one part where Jerry Lunderad kinda comes out.

And it's when he's on the driveway and he's like, My fucking wife has an ac acid cock in the driveway. I'm sorry i my mind is not on the film machine. Okay. And he goes that that okay. It sounds just like Jerry Lindegaard. I was like, Oh, that's Jerry. He came out. It kills me. Are you giving me shit, Kurt? No, no, no. Not at all. It's just the cinematography of the film. What's my favorite Macy? What's your favorite Macy? Little Bill. Um yeah, Little Bill's my favorite.

I would just say that Macy doing mammoth is my favorite. So whether it's homicide or a Spartan or I just think he's He's one of the best deliverers of those di of that dialogue. So I'm not sure. Um something about his face, it's a one of a kind. What's funny because Buscemi's in this too, where it's just like these distinct faces that you can't compare to anybody else who's ever lived. Um, Buscemi.

I saw I I really thought about this. He's not a that guy anymore by ninety-six. He graduated because Reservoir Dogs, Mr. Pink. I think he's he he's not a that guy anymore after that, but he does have this run of Fargo, Escape from New York, Conner and Lebowski. Somewhere in there he's just Steve Buscemi. Escape from Los Angeles, right? Escape from Los Angeles, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

After 94, my whole world was Tarantino. And so I would just watch Reservoir Dogs over and over and over. So when you see this movie and he's doing like Mr. Pink adjacent, he's got a gun, he's fucking bleeding, he's mad, he's pissed off. What the fuck is wrong? What's wrong with you imbeciles? She's just so fucking mad. And I remember just telling my friends, I'm like, it's like Mr. Pink is back. He's so cool. I love it.

I could watch Buscemi for an hour just screaming at that fucking TV. Just plug me into the L zone, baby. You fucking shit box just over and over. I I just love it. I can't get enough. It's like you can watch this movie and it's like Uh, Macy, Bishemi, and McDormand could all be the lead characters. Yeah, they're the big three. Uh and I I I I like found myself just like

thinking everything Buscemi did in this movie was the funniest thing I had ever seen in my life and the best that like he blew me away this last viewing. With Dorman obviously like basically like this is a career maker for her and and she becomes like a pretty significant star after this. Hall of Famer. Yeah. But like this is like this time around for some reason I was like mesmerized by Carl. I was like, this is so great. You know what made made

Since when I read this in the research that I'd never known before that they wrote this for Buscemi. Yes. When you hear stuff like that, and usually some of the best work is when the director, writer person It's like I have this person in my head. Every line I'm writing is for Buscemi. Uh my favorite for him is still The Sopranos. Oh yeah. His whole run that he had where he he just was in full command of of he was full Buscemi at that point. But I think this is his

Which one? Boardwalk on the one. I never got into it. I did. Yeah. Did you like it? Yeah, I did. We brought it after like three seasons. Yeah. Like it's pretty great in retrospect because like if like I was thinking about if Boardwalk was on now it'd probably be like

A top three shows. Yeah, they should just release it and pretend it just came out. That's the thing is that like when these things pop up, whether it's like on other streaming services or whatever, like they'll get revival. And I'm like, Damn, this is like really, really good. That was Heyday HBL Sunday nights. Like you couldn't miss any. I watched like three seasons. The greatest thing about his character, Tony B and The Sopranos, was like,

He was really the only guy who would stand up to Tony. Yeah. Yeah. Big Tony. And he he has this infamous scene where Tony's like browbeating him. He's like, you're crowding me. Like in the you're crowding me scene, like back the fuck off. And that's why he was so cool. And then he just completely comes unhinged. Great character.

Van and I have talked about this that I I still think that's the best stretch of the Sopranos. I just reached everyone is peak of their powers and they've just figured out the show. But it's still in the bring him in. It's just great stuff. And then McDormand. Who's won three Oscars, all best actress and an Emmy.

And a Tony. Yeah. Which she won an Emmy for. I forget. I don't know. It's my research. No brain. Um and she's won three best actor Oscars. And the only other person knew that is D D L. Yeah. Best research I could find for her is she once lived in an apartment with the Cone Brothers, Sam Ramey, and Holly Hunter. That's great. And somebody named Scott Spiegel, who's probably like, Yeah, fuck Scott Spiegel screenwriter.

Spa Scott Spiegel's like, I don't know what happened, but where's my Oscar?'Cause Holly Hunter won for broadcast these piano. She won just five Oscars in the apartment, not to mention That's a great blunt rotation to it. But um It's funny. My favorite for her is still almost famous, but she did not even McDormand. She didn't even Yeah, for McDormand. This is what's your favorite one? All my favorites are coming up Fargo, like

This is my favorite boucemi even more than reservoir dogs or anything. Wow. I I just think it's Is it your favorite Stormor? That's a that's a nice thing. That's a great question. Because I mean, I have a feeling the direction you might be going on that one, Bill. So I'm just gonna let you know. I'm an open book. People know.

Yeah, people that were up in a land. So it just starts going like this. As great as as as Storm Air is in this movie, he's not directing snuff films. No. But yeah, I mean it's it's my favorite at all. It's Stormare's like What could be worse than the guy played in Fargo? That's the film director. I guess that could take it up. But then they're still like, we'll put him in Armageddon. So Francis McDormand long career was

Um and so her three Oscars are not like major it's weird. It's a weird three billboards. Three billboards and then North Country. No Madland, right? Or No Madland, yeah, yeah. She got nominated. Yeah, no Madland, right. Yeah. Um so it's not like she doesn't have her I don't know, like your big market movie, they're all this is probably the biggest one. I think that yeah, I she's this made sixty million. She's got like

Meryl Street performances, but she never does like a Der Double Wars product. Like there's not a good way to put it a movie. There's not a Mystic River. Almost famous, probably the closest. She doesn't do Mamma Mia. Yes. No. What's interesting about her too is McDormand, she's had huge gaps.

Like she took a like a seven year gap. Yeah. Not long after this and I looked it up and it coincides with when they decide to adopt a child. So like she's just like, I don't think she's done a movie since No Man Lane. I mean I think she's doing the next or maybe Macbeth with Denzel Washington. Then she has The next Joel Colding project. Yeah. She's on that rare list of actor.

Where it's like they have something out and like, you have my attention. Yes. Which I think is probably a list of less than 10 people. D DLish. You know, it's D it's it's Streep. Streep's still on there for me. Yeah. I think Hanks is not on there anymore. Hanks was off. Yeah. I think Hanks is off.

Cruises off like there's Jeffrey Donovan who played bottles in uh in Shot Collar. Yeah Shot Collar. Oh ever the whole cast of Shot Car? I watched Shot Car last night. I was texting CR. I it's just it's it might be my favorite movie of the last ten years. Did Limitless come out the last ten years? Can't remember. Uh by the way, McDormand also uh

Primal Fear, like in the fucking movie. Incredible in Primal Fear. She's with the video camera, like just getting it, showing the stakes. I think she's great in that movie. She's also amazing in the Cohen Brothers first movie in Blood Simple. Yeah. So this movie, she's pregnant. There's an innocence to her.

Um, there's some great fake some of the best face acting. Even she does some really good stuff in the uh in the scene with her high school guy, Michael. The best. Um, after he puts his arm around and then she makes him go back. Oh my god. And then she has that look on her face like This is gonna go for another hour now and I just wanna like set myself on fire. And she's kind of that like frozen

Smile, trying to synergizate the straw Chris. Yeah. And when he's I always like you so much. And it's so Mike, should we do this another time? No. I'm just down again. Yeah.

She's awesome in that scene. Yeah. And then we have Stormar, um Storm air. Storm out. I gotta admit, I it's Debanza Debanza. Can we give him the um Sean Penn? I brought my own pack award for excellent on screen smoking. I just want to hear you guys talk about him smoking. All right. This is why he's next to the game. It's so hard to do. There's levels.

Right. Go on. And when you get introduced to smoking, it starts and it's like you're at a bar and you're like, I smoke when I drink. And then you start smoking, maybe you take start taking smoke breaks. You smoke with coffee, you go outside, you get a break from work.

It goes up another level. This is a move when you start using these two fingers instead of this. That's like a graduation. But when it goes up another level is when you either have a roommate or a partner who's like, we can smoke inside. Then it's a new world. The final level. is when you smoke inside of a car with the windows rolled up. Unbelievable. That's when you've given up. You are like, I'm just gonna be a full tumor.

I don't care. We're never gonna let this smoke. Only an elevator can tap it. Exactly. And it's like Peter Stormar in this movie and Dustin Hoffman and all the president's men are the two guys who are like, I will smoke in the Pope's face.

In a closed locker somewhere. I don't care. And well he's doing something with the you don't see it often with the lid cigarette where only the tail end is in his mouth. It's right at the bottom lid. It's hanging out. It always seems like it's gonna fall over and it's not. He's not even really smoking into his eye. He cups it and the all time And then it goes through the nose every time. Is when he flicks it out the window when he's going after the two witnesses and he's just like

Boom, and you're like, oh man. No shit. It's a great as can I say something as a smoking prude? Um the the double nostril blow is always really cool to me. Like that's like a reverse dunk or something.

I was just watching one battle after another and Leo's doing them constantly down on the table. It's the De Niro Goodfellow slow-mo shot. It's like he just blows it out like a dragon. It's amazing. If I start smoking, I'm gonna do a lot of those. I just I've always thought that was cool since I was a kid. It's never too late, Kyle.

Stormere he he actually uses it almost it's almost like a lollipop. He's like Kojak. Yes. Just kind of dangling from his mouth a couple times. It's amazing. Um As I as I said, I love him and Dino Velvet, but IMDB credits. Okay. If I gave you Storm Air, Stormare, Stormere, mm hmm, Buscemi, Macy. Who do you think is one, two, three for most acting credits? Most? Stormair, number one. I think Stormare's done a shitload of voiceover. And if we consider that acting, I would say that.

But otherwise I'll say Macy is Macy has the most. Well Macy I feel like did like ten years of shameless Give me some uh give me some numbers. Give me your one, two, three. I think Stormare is like showing up in like prestige TV shows for like two episodes still. Like I mean I think So he's three digits. Give me a total number. Eighty. No, I'm gonna say like a hundred and thirty five for Storm Air. What do you have for Buscemi? Fifty. Uh seventy. How about A hundred and five.

Final standings. Macy one fifty eight. Holy shit. Way to go, Bill. Buscemi, one ninety nine. Really? Wow. Storm here, two thirty one. Let's go. That's that's I don't I've never seen a seed that's a good thing. Someone of Eastern European or Russian background to show up and be menacing for um an episode, I'll do it. They were like John Wick too. He's like, no more. I saw there was an interview with Joel Kinneman I saw recently. Joel Kinneman. And he was like

Swedish too, right? He's like, the thing is I bought a house in Malibu and now I gotta pay for it. So I'll like he's like available. Yeah. And I was like, I wonder if that's Storm Air, like I wonder what his house is. That he's like, I will do CSI if it must. Well, I think when you're banging out like like Dino Velvet's like four scenes.

So that you're probably in the set for like five days, six days. Yeah. So you can basically go from sure. You can go from Dino velvet right into, you know, did you see in the research that Storm Air has a band? Yeah. Blonde from Fargo. Yeah. That's what it's called.

And I'm like I I listened to some blonde from Fargo Music on the plane say I had a quick metal, hard rock, what is it? Folk, folky. He plays guitar and sings though. Like it's beautiful. I thought it was very, very, very cool. We're gonna take a break and then we gotta talk about Roger Dinkins. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Claude from Anthropic. You know that thing where you finish a movie and you immediately have to look up who directed it?

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Just in terms of like his cinematography in that movie. So put him against Great Shaq Gordo and everyone else. Is it in Mount Rushmore for you? Oh, he's definitely top. Top five or six. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. He's like Vittorio Silar. Gordon Willis and yeah.

William Fraker and Haskell Wexler, but like yeah, he's incredible. Kyle, he used an Aeroflex thirty-five BL4 camera for this in case you were keeping the notes at home. Did did Dino Velvet use a similar radar? Okay. One thing I noticed the second time I watched this. Um, by the way, great four K Blu ray. Sure. Awesome. Um, everything is white, the whole movie.

And I and I I don't know if they did this then they're geniuses. But it all is to the wood chipper where everything's red. Mm-hmm. And it's like it's white, white, white, white, white, white. And then boom, wood chipper red everywhere. It's almost like the shining elevator. Mm-hmm. And I wonder like if

They talk I don't I don't know how to talk a little bit about how difficult first of all Deacons the one day the sun came out when they were shooting he was furious because he was like this is breaking like is there a sunny scene? Like I don't even he probably masked it. Yeah. Maybe at the dealership. It looks a little sunny because there's a lot of natural light on those things. Yeah.

Um they talked a lot about problems with like shooting the horizon because the snow and the white sky was so much that you couldn't tell where the like land was done and the sky began. But I think it actually contributes to the feeling like you're on another planet when you're watching it. Wide chats, white. It's one of these movies that just in your brain you can see different scenes. I don't even know how we do Great Chuck Gordo for this movie.

That's why my selection is just the opening shot.'Cause it's just a fucking whiteout and then a minute later, Lundegaard drives right past your ear and it's it's It's like hitting a forty foot three to start the game. I have a couple of nominees for Gordo, but the thing is is that like

the shot as they like kind of push in or when they even first just like they didn't move the camera that much. Right. But the lighting and the way that you're introduced to Carl and Garrett that at the bar was the king of clubs. You're just like, I know exactly where I am. I know exactly what kind of dudes these are. They have six beers. I know. They've killed in an hour already. Like, like let's go. I know. I had this for later, but could you have lived in this part of the country?

In front of that. I'd be a raging alcoholic if I did. Like that I gotta say that bar, the king of clubs. In my twenties I would have been like, This is great. We're going here every night. Yeah. They got three pool tables. Long necks, jukebox. Escorts. This sounds awesome. Do you know what I Kobe told me had a really amazing story about going to a bar with Bill, I think in Charleston.

I sometime during Greyland or a while ago and like I don't know if you used to bartend there or just used to go there. But you hadn't been there in like years. It was yeah, it's in it was in Fanny Waha. And you walk you Bill walks in with Jacoby and the bartender just look uh look looks up at him and goes like, What'll it be, Billy? After like years away. That's what you weren't. That was in Charlestown, yeah.

Where everybody knows your name. Yeah. What was it that you wanted to do? It explains a lot of my twenties. I think I could have made it maybe two years without then the weather would have driven me nuts. Well also If it was back in the eighties, like there's not even any timber wolves or anything. Like that's you know what I'm saying?

The Vikings team. Really important. Yeah, obviously. But even that guy didn't even have a ticket for Jerry. You kidding? But what? He's insulted that he would even ask if he had an extra college hockey game. Two Oscar two Oscar wins for McDormand in the screenplay. Big shot Rodge did not get an Oscar. Unbelievable.

Looks pretty good. Uh seven nominations, including the director. They did the thing where it was just Joel directing, even though both of them directed. And then I think at some point they just They just did so much good work. People were like, all right, you can beat both of them. They always have this editor named Roderick James. It's them. That's them? That got nominated? That's their pseudonym for. Yeah, I think I read that.

So they have a little group name for themselves to edit? Yeah, it's it's Soderbergh does this with uh it's Peter Andrews, what he shoots his movies, but So what would be your what would be your editor pseudonym? Yeah. But it would be like Mine would just be a machine. So they don't win for best directing and they don't win for best picture because English patient takes both. And it's an interesting uh best picture because Fargo, Jerry Maguire, Secrets and Lies and Shine.

English Patient wins. I don't know if English Patient's winning that one a second time. It's a great movie, but it was that was Weinstein Out I think. Yeah. Um You know what's funny about that Oscars? I have a funny that's the sixty-ninth Academy Awards. Oh. Dustin Hoffman I remember walks out and he goes, the sixty-ninth Academy Award. Sixty nine and he looks down and goes

Jack is smiling. They go to Nick who's got this big shittinning grin on his face. I like a little 69 every once in a while. What a perfect. Oh my god. Different times. That was what they did. I remember it vividly, I was 18. Best actress, McDormand wins. Yeah. Beats Brenda Blethlin. Mm-hmm. Diane Keaton, Kristen Scott Thomas, and Emily Watson. It's a nice crew. Yeah. Um, and then uh Macy loses for supporting Cuba Goodding. Mm. Also Ed Norton loses that year in Primo Fear.

Um I also think this is the la it's it's the last year before they expanded to more nominees or the first year when it was like ten best picture nominees. Like it was right on the edge. I thought that that was still five. It was still five until oh eight because they changed it for Dark Night. Yeah, basically okay. All right. Macy um I think should have gone for Best Actor.

A UI for best supporting? I think they put him best supporting, but I I think he should who did he lose to? He lost to Cuba Group. Right Tidwell. Yeah. Do we feel good about that? I mean, Tidwell's great. I think I think he's incredible in that. Other people think it's a horrifying win in that we should redo it. Yeah. It's a polarizing one.

It's a it's also a testament. I think Macy and Fargo has stood the test of time. I mean it's like you didn't get the the statue, but I think a lot of people are it'd be an interesting redo because I don't think I don't think Macy loses thirty years later. But but you also have the history of

You also have the history of Macy, the last thirty years of work too, so who knows? That might have felt like who I don't know. Macy just showed up in movies like we're gonna hand it to him right now. Uh who knows? Kuba put his time in a little bit. Tidwell was a really I l I love the Tidwell character. And it's probably my single favorite Sports movie characters. Is that the only one that makes it?

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I I believe that he was a professional wide receiver. Like that's very hard to do. Cushlash. Wow, that's Cush right there. Yeah. SMU jerseys. Cameron Crow. He that was his contribution to the studio. There's only three of them. Did Cush go to SMU? How the hell did that I guess they pay him? Seven million dollar budget, made sixty point six have gone in NIL is a great great conversation. Oh yeah, he's Georgia, I guess. I'm S C. So made sixty point six million.

Um, released in VHS laser, DVD, Blu-ray, and Four K Blu-ray. The Fab Fives. Yeah. Mm-hmm. All five of'em. Um, inspired the T V series that CR mentioned. And then uh Siskel and Ebert together said best movie of ninety six. Fucking

They had the criteria orgasm when they reviewed this on on their show. They were just like this is why we go to the movies. They did. They did a lot of like You could see Sean just lifting their shtick thirty years later. A lot of like movie celebration stuff. Sean's like these guys Ebert, four stars. It rotates its story through satire, comedy, suspense, and violence until it emerges as one of the best films I've ever seen. Films like Fargo are why I love the movies.

You mentioned the the DVD and all that. They also had this really fucking cool thing. When this when I was a senior in high school, I worked at the movie store in the mall. Like I worked at Suncoast Motion Picture Company. And Fargo released this special version of the VHS where you would get a snow globe with a dead body in it.

I turned that out. And it was like the hottest fucking item to get. And we had people lining up before the store would open and we'd have to like stock them and they would all be gone in 10 minutes. And I remember I got one. And it was the coolest souvenir. It's like a bloody dead body, like the guy in the red coat. I don't. That would be a good uh it's an awesome souvenir. That'd be good for the mem memorabilia thing later. Well, one other thing with the releases.

This what this is a what's age the worst for this movie? The they did the it's shot really wide. Yeah. And when it was on cable for years and years with the square TVs, the paint and scan, it was really bad. It really like hurt the movie from a rewatch scene. Okay, this is it you feel like you're watching like Lawrence of Ruiz. You feel like you're in Minnesota. Yeah. Uh all right. Let's do the categories. Most rewatchable scene. We mentioned the opening credits.

Jerry meets the kidnappers at King of Clubs, the most North Dakota dive bar possible. It seems amazing. Yeah. Like they they encourage you to smoke inside of King of Clubs. I think you have to do it to stay wide. Excuse me, could I have smoking sir? Can you please? Excuse me, sir. You haven't smoked in an hour. Um almost every scene that those guys are in, there's like

seven empty beer bottles, like somewhere in the shot. Yeah. Like even when they have Gene kidnapped, like at the safe house, there's like tons of dead soldiers lying around. I was Zag for this. Yeah. I added in my picking nits. I think it's a little bit of a hacky way that directors show someone's drunk. that there's like six empty b I think any proud tavern, someone clears those bottles. Sure. I think it is is a little transparent. They do the same thing in Zodiac with those blue glasses.

When downy and feel like fucked up like someone comes and gets those glasses. I think it is a little bit of a hacky way to show someone's. Am I overestimating? King of Clubs might have one guy, he's behind the bar. And he cleans up once. And the wait This is what I wanted in response. I like it. And the waitress was also an escort. Yeah. So she better had to just leave for a half hour. She's at the blue eyes. Got a little room for her. Yeah, kidnapping scene.

I love she's knitting. She's watching some Minneapolis. They're making holodazzle eggs. In the in the show. It's also the fucking funniest thing in this movie might be them being like And we're doing a riverboat cruise of the Nile this year, so you guys gotta sign up for that. I'm like, what? Can you fucking imagine going to Egypt based on a morning show being like we're doing a group tour of the Nile and like

It's such a perfect little throwaway bit. Where do you think the accommodations are on that trip? I don't know, but it also like so much of this stuff, because they're from Minnesota, it must be. shit that happened to them or something. Well the other movie that jumped into this was Young Adult, which is a movie that uh is very popular in the Simmons House with Charlie's Jason Raymond movie. She goes back home for our high school reunion.

But she's still in love with uh Patrick Wilson. Mm-hmm. But it really ties into this whole uh kind of Minnesota how just weird everybody is there. Well also so trusting. Like the strangest part of the home break in is that

Carl comes up like looking like he went to Spirit Halloween and got home intruder costume, like with a crowbar and a and she just stands there watching him for a long time until he breaks the glass and then all shit breaks loose. Like you'd be losing your kids. Yeah. What is she doing? Yeah. So kidnapping scene. Her face is great.

It's a really like all of a sudden super t we're like, oh shit, we're doing this. I mean this could be what's our award for this? Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell. That was fourth and ninth scene. The shower curtains is good. She's really good in that scene. She seems completely terrified.

What kind of finder's fee are you looking for? Oh god, this is the best. We're not a bank, Jerry. Um, one of my favorite What a terrible plan, by the way. What did he just think they were gonna give him$750,000? The dynamic here where Jerry has set off this felony abduction of his wife. And it's like, oh shit, I might get some money. I have to call it off. Yes. It's so clumsy and so stupid. It r it reminds me of like when I lose something around the house.

I'm like, ah, fuck. And then I order on Amazon for 60 bucks and then I find it. And I go to try to cancel the order on Amazon. I'm like, no, it's too late. It's already shipped. God damn it. Except it's the abduction of his wife. It's so sloppy and so idiotic that he does that. And then it messes that up on top of it. I love that scene with Stan. I'm putting the three together of this scene, him flipping out in the ice scraper is the next scene.

And then him coming home and rehearsing the phone call in the kitchen. It's all in a row. How penetratingly cold it is is always in the background of this movie, the ice scraping. Yeah. She needs her car to get a jump from norm when she first leaves the house. Like That's Midwest Living. Yeah. I love the Well you just came from that because I'm recording this right after the blizzard. Second one of the winter, two feet, all that shit.

The first thing Jerry does when he enters King of Clubs is something he does like six times in this movie, where when he walks into a room, he goes like this. He passes his feet a few times. Like that's Midwest living. The scrape off on the thing.

That it is so relatable someone who's gotten on the car and be like, God damn it, I have to scrape the fucking windshield. And then he has his crash out, which is just so well acted and so relatable. I love it. The criminals killed a cop and two innocent bystanders. Yeah, this is big. Just keep it still, lady, or else we're gonna have to, you know, shoot ya. Laugh out loud in the theater. Hilarious.

Uh really good unexpected murder followed by the oh daddy. Also the cones love a headshot. Yeah. Uh nose crossing. This is like it's always like, whoa. Like the it really stops you in your track. Big time. Slight nitpick. I don't know enough about shooting somebody from two feet away. Okay. But Marvin in Pulp Fiction, like his head basically explodes. Yeah.

Would your head explode from that close or would it just be the divot? I don't know. I think it's enough happens to Carl over the course of the movie that I think like he eventually like like he suffers from some like random shot shots and stuff like that. So yeah. Um Marge, this is a quick one, but Marge interviewing the two escorts kills me. Fantastic. So bears he's not circumcised. The running joke of of Buscemi being funny looking in a way they can't describe.

That reminds me of you said they wrote it for him. Like they're writing those lines about how funny looking he is. And you just got script, you're like, oh man, the Cullen brothers wrote me apart. This is great. Oh. And everyone says how weird I look at it. We were looking how that would feel if you're reading that. You're like, oh fuck. Tough.

They they're like, we wrote this for you, Steve. Uh your car off. Even the process how weird looking you are. Yeah. The whole movie. The great thing about the um the hooker scene is also sorry, the escort scene or whatever is uh Francis McDorm has talked about how it's just written that way in the script down to the

Oh, yeah. Like like every all the punctuation. It's like so can you imagine those two brothers sitting there and then goes and then the one hooker says this and the other hooker says that and then

Francis says this. It's so funny to imagine them coming up with this. We didn't I meant to do this at the top, but we didn't talk about the accents and how that kind of shaped how this movie was. um consumed in 1996. Because it was kind of like an Accents movie. And in in a way, it seemed like it was going to work against McDormand and the Oscars.

I actually had this for what was the most nineteen ninety-six part of this movie is that it's not necessarily the last time, but it is a time in America where different regions far away and culturally very different. And in the sense that like now like yeah. I could find out like what the three best pizza places are in Minneapolis, St. Paul, like right now on Instagram and like watch people eat slices. You could go in the King of Clubs

Uh Instagram. Yeah. You're like guys that smoke at night. I know. I should be like bring your own cigarettes. This felt like when you were like, is this what it's like here? Like is this what Minnesota is like and what North Dakota is like? It's such an important point because I felt like in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The only way I knew where what anything was like was in T V or movies. Yeah. Like I didn't know what like San Diego was like.

Or Denver. How would you know? Beverly Hills, right. You'd see a movie set inside the keys and you're like, this might as well be set on Jupiter. This doesn't look like anything I've ever seen in my life. But and then how cool the show or the movie was in the location shaped. Like to me, Miami was the coolest city we had just because of Miami. You go to Miami? No. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's like, all right, it's fine. Um I had Buscemi Braid in the parking lot guy. Yeah.

I have Shep beating up with Shemay. Let's smoke a fucking peace pipe. He has to get that in there, doesn't he? He's so proud with that line. Uh I have the father in law getting killed just'cause it's it's shocking. I got a real woe from my son. Um no gene, no money. Who the fuck are you? That the last couple of scenes Buscemi has.

As an actor, you could just hear the cohen son. I'm like, you're done. You can't take anymore. I want you at a 10 out of 10. It's the phone call with Jerry after he gets beat up by Chef. And then when he shows up and Wade gets out of that car, it is a hundred out of a hundred Boucemi. I'm not fucking around anymore. Yes. He looks like,

pure perfect bouchemi. I'm gonna kill you. I'm gonna shoot you. And he does. He's such a psychopath. And he can do it in any movie, including one of my favorites, which we're considering for from Helmuth, Domestic Disturbance with Vincent and John Tabota. Great. Steve Bashem plays, get this, a scumbag who comes into uh Vince Vaughn's life. Yeah. But he just he can break it out whenever he wants. I only have a couple more. I have the Eklund and Swedlands guy.

He just rips off a monologue in a monotone. And he's just like doing the ice and snow off of his driveway before more snow comes and hits it again. Yeah. And I say, what kind of action? And he says, woman action. What do I look like? And I say, what do I look like? I don't arrange that kind of thing. Are you calling me a jerk? Last guy who called me a jerk is dead now, and I don't mean from old age.

I think this might be my favorite scene. It's a great scene. I fucking love this scene. So do I. And it's that weird like deputy in the SUV who has two scenes and then it's driveway guy. Yeah. Um, can I I think it's as good a time as any because it relates to the accent.

I wrote down the five most Fargo people in Fargo. Oh yeah, let's hear it. Like just the accent, the everything. All right. I at five I have Jerry's manager at Gustave Son Auto, who's watching the Gophers game. You kidding? You named him already. At number four, I have the female cashier at the diner. Oh, yeah. How was everything today? And Jerry's like, how are you doing?

Huge laugh in the theater. And number three, I got driveway guy going crazy out there at the lake guy who's just kind of just sweeping his wet driveway with the hood up and everything and going crazy out there at the lake. And number two, I have our girl, the blonde escort from went to White Bear High School, Go Bears. And then I think number one, we haven't mentioned him yet, uh I mean Lou. Lou, the the officer with Margie. All right, Margie? That guy is like a thousand on the scale.

He is by far the usual protocol. That guy. Hey, Norm. How are the paintings going? Brought you some coffee. Yeah, that guy. You're all right. Martin, he's the one who thought there was the plate was DLR and then he was the dealer. He's so stupid. I really agree with you. Please work there, Lou. He's the most Fargo guy in Fargo.

That's a good list. Yeah, thank you. I'm trying to think if I would add anyone, but that I think there's a lot of fun ones. No, you hit you I think you hit the basics. Um Marge goes to see Jerry a second time. We talked about the mic scene already. The wood chipper scene into the drive, which was an all time It's axe to the head. Holy shit, we're doing this. Well, all of a sudden we hear the wood chipper in the back.

For a long time. We have our pregnant hero who has not been in any danger at all at any point in this movie and just has a gun. Yeah. And she's creeping around and we know it's gonna be bad and

I'm prepared for anything at this point from Fargo the first time I see it. Like it's are they just gonna shoot her? And uh it just it gives you that sense of like kind of Not the pointlessness, but the how fleeting and and we're just like bags of meat out here and like the anything could happen to you at any point.

We've followed Carl throughout this whole movie being like, Oh, is he gonna get away with it? Is he gonna get this? And fuck he just gets hit in the head with an axe. Yeah. And thrown in a wood chipper. That's what life does. And then I have the three cent stamp, which I really like as an ending. Yeah, that's a cute ending. Yeah. I think that the second scene, we only get two with Margie and Jerry is unbelievable acting by the both of them, where Jerry does the ma'am.

I answered your question. Yeah. I I'm I'm I'm cooperating here. And she gets real pissed off like the way you get You have no call to get snippy with me. Snippy with me. When he when he runs off and she's like, He's fleeing the interview and she can't get an outside line on the fucking phone.

That scene's amazing. Um So you have Mike as your favorite scene? Mike Yannagita scene uh is my favorite scene. P it's it's preempted by the Mike Yannagita phone call at 1045. Yeah. But once they establish who they are, there's this gate and then he goes, So how the heck are ya? Um when they walk in And they go for that hug.

And Mike goes, Oh, you look great. It's like, oh, Mayday, Mayday, get the fuck out of there. Everything about that scene. I'm gonna talk about it later as well, is uh it makes me so happy. Uh, I think just for filmmaking purposes, it's the triple homicide in the highway. Yeah. Because outstanding. You're like, Oh, they got pulled over. I wonder how this is gonna work out. And you're like, That's not how I thought it was gonna work out. That also features one of my favorite

There are two shots that basically talk to each other. It's the shot of the two witnesses driving by slowly and they're like, Yep. And then it also happens when Macy goes out of the parking garage and he goes past the attendant who's been killed. So I just find that the entire movie jumps up a nice. Storm Air for most of the movie ups and then it's just like comatose.

And then he snaps. He's like, I'll kill three people for nothing. You know, and it's that shot you talked about where finally he's driving, first time he's ever driving, and the flick, and he's driving with the gun. And you're like, he's Satan. He's gonna kill everyone. And then like he's chasing them and then their parts lights disappear. Just great. It's so cool. I love this movie. I think that's the answer. But I think my favorite is still the guy's monologue. Yeah.

The uh Yanagita. Yeah. Doesn't use the word jerk. He calls me a jerk. Oh, the guy on the guy, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh what's the most nineteen eighty seven or nineteen ninety six thing about this movie? You can go either. Movie set in nineteen eighty six. Uh for eighty seven, um Scotty Lundegaard's got a white snake poster over his bed and eighty seven is the year that

That album came out and here I go again was all I mean that's eighty seven March of eighty seven. I didn't even notice it. Oh yeah. Oh, right over his bed. Holy shit. I didn't notice it either. I noticed the accordion post. Well, we'll get to that. Is it Tani Katane or is it just a white stick? No, it's the I think it's like the album cover. Okay. But like that the self-titled. Here I go again. On the car. Yeah. Tani Catane. That is 87.

Yeah. And so Scotty, it's like this at that's eighty seven. The ninety six for me is just what we've already talked about that you could just say this was a true story and everyone just believe it'cause they can't research it. It's like they Oh, good point. They like uh

They blair witched us kind of like like this is real. Just trust us. All right. And it's not. People are probably like looking at microfias. Trying to find like From the library. Yeah. Uh Minneapolis Tribune. Uh the only other one I had for ninety six about this movie is uh Six million dollar budget, sixty million dollar budget, box office. That's the dream. That's a huge win. A ten X return on a modestly budgeted

movie that you have creative control over that winds up becoming And Raj and Gene just hugging each other in the theater. That's really all you want. And us three Nimrods in a in a room thirty years later and being like, yep, that's the best. Perfect movie, man. Perfect. I had no ring cameras. 'Cause we just catch everyone immediately. Yeah, I thought about that a lot uh faxing stuff.

I have low life criminals having sex in the same room in two double beds and then watching the tonight show. Yeah. All right. So Bill, I I had What would you what would be the show now? I don't know, Fallon. I I don't I don't I had this understanding. Nobody wants to watch Jimmy Fallon after having sex. He's doing bad beats. I I think Scott Bam Peltz can interview Lamar after this game.

Shout out to Scott. Great job. Would you and another guy who you barely know be in the same room and two queen beds at the same time? Come on now. It depends on how many times he's been to king of clubs. I I've never. Never I can't imagine. Wouldn't you at least go out for burgers or something and come take a turn? Yeah. Jesus Christ. I've been in I've been in this situation. Not you. Not all the way through. But there's a moment when somebody's gotta

Get out of there. Get it and go to a different place. Caps out. It's also weird, like if you're both doing it at the same time, like Inevitably one finishes, is it a competition? Then you're going and they're stopping. It's really Carl also is like watching Gare. It's really funny. Well, if there's two separate things. One is would you want to be in the situation Two is would you want to be in the situation with either of those two guys in the other double bait?

No, no. And the answer is a is a strong no. It's so funny that they're like they're doing a ransom deal, but they're also like, We're keeping expenses low. Like Dude, he Two girls, one room. He doesn't want to pay the four bucks for that parking. How do you think they decided who had which girl? Like I I found that a lot. They both had type. Yeah. Neither type was particularly a knockout, I would say. Uh

The most nineteen eighty seven thing about this movie. Okay. We did not mention yet. It's a Playboy in the bathroom reading rack. When she's when she's in the bathroom, the wife, as she's getting kidnapped, they have a rack of magazines. Sherry has a Playboy? Including Playboy magazine. Maybe it's just for the magazine rack. Yeah. That goes against type. I don't see him as as that. That that was n nineteen eighty seven it was realistic. Definitely.

Scotty must have loved that too. That's huge. What's age of the best? We mentioned a couple of things already. I can do my run of Steve Buscemi here if you want. Oh, let's go. So what's age of the best? Steve Buscemi 90s scumbag. Test tube, the drug purity guy from King of New York. Uh Mink from Miller's Crossing, Mr. Pink from Reservoir Dogs, Mr.

from things to do in Denver when you're dead and Carl from Fargo. Just all in a row. Just an app not in a row, but just throughout that decade, just bec played a fucking crazy scumbag. Who badly is the scummiest of all of them? If you had like your number one. I it I mean, honestly, probably this one. This guy's tough. I would not want to spend a night with Test Tube from King of New York. It's the that's the um that's the like go get me my Coca-Cola scene with Lawrence Fishburne. Remember that?

Um call's kind of pleasant. Like he's trying to make conversation about the road. Like he's a sort of human, you know? I try to do a podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Um Deepishemi with a woman riding him on top is just really funny and it tastes the best. And I the idea of Joel and Ethan being like, what if this guy just really likes chicks on top? That's so good. He's never up.

Um and uh Steve Shemi being described as little and funny looking by multiple characters, and then the the crowning achievement is definitely. Carl taking a hooker to a Jose Feliciano concert. I love this scene. Jose Feliciano, got no complaints. Fantastic. Telling her is in town on business, but just a little of the old in and out.

Before asking her if she's been to the celebrity room before and and asks her if she finds being an escort interesting. What are you talking about? If she has this look on her face the whole time that's intentional where she's just like Oh my god. Like they've told her, like, can you make an uglier face? No, no, make it uglier. Do one more time. Make it much uglier. That's it. Keep that. The guy just fucking blessed.

Oh man. And she says she's never been there'cause it's nice. You know, she'd never been there with a client before. Another one stage is a but well we didn't mention the score, which was great, but uh In every scene they're in together, Marge and Norm are either lying in bed or eating.

Yeah. They have no other interactions. We don't even see them like watching TV in the living room. It's just they're in bed or at a table. She's like at night, like she's got the chips in between the two of them. Sleeping with food. Yeah, that's tough. Jesus Christ. I yeah. It it's it's an incredible moment. They both

All right, three plates deep. Now she's deeply pregnant. Big plates. Like plates you can do in college when you have needon for twenty four. Yeah. It's not even dinner. This is the thing that I was thinking about. There are two two sides of this. One is he brings her Arby's. Yeah. Which I was trying to think of like the last time in my life

That life worked in a way where my wife would bring me f my lunch and we would hang out at my work at all. Mm. And then the other side of it was just like the amount of calories you're hitting. Oh, it's at noon. Yeah. And like what happens to your body Swedish meatballs alone is like twenty five hundred calories. So much chicken frickacy and and like

Like that's a cream stew. Like that's all World War Three, dude. I had all this written down. That's gonna be a terrible afternoon. Cause obviously this is the big Kahuna Burger Award winner for Best Used Food to Drink The Buffet. Oh, good. Chicken and dumplings, chicken fricasse, fried tora and broiled tora. Swedish beatballs. That's the only five thing there's more.

Because there's like potatoes and she got a whole bowl of jello. Yeah, there's all kinds of shells. It was like the fat buffet. Everything's high calories. It's some sort of Minnesota fish that's really smelly to me. Okay. This led me I struggled a lot in this movie with good hang. Like I hard, like who I would want to hang with. Yeah. And I was like, I think it might be norm.

It's norm by default, but norm's not necessarily a good hang. I think good hang bad hang is pretty easy. Norm is bad hang's Cl Carl's the good A and Gare's the bad A. I would love to take a road trip with Carl. Yeah, I guess so. There's a good side of them. I just had found a hard time landing on Norm.

Just too boring and like when I watch him eat that lunch, I'm like, Jesus Christ. He's a loving man. He only gets locked in one time when she says he's go she's going to Minnesota and he's like, Minnesota? Oh yeah? That's the only time he's even like leaning forward. Um a couple more would say the best. I like movies where there's the loser's son in law with the wealthy

Father in law. Yes, this is great. And the guys just shitting on him in all these different ways. He hates Jerry. And he's like at some point he's like, Well, I don't want To want uh Gene and Scotty to worry and the guy's like Gene and Scotty never have to worry. This could work out real good for me and Gene and Scotty and he just

Slashes his throat. Like you said, he fucking hates Jerry in the scene in the diner where Jerry's trying to be like, This is my deal, Wade. No way. You don't know. Like he Oh my God, he hates Jerry. I'm gonna do all this stuff to Zoe's husband, if I don't like whoever she marries, I'm gonna turn into it. Zoe's gonna be fine. Yeah. Zoe and Ben will be fine. I had this on unanswerable questions. Like, what is it like if you hate your son-in-law? It must be really bad.

Pretty tough. What if the son-in-law would be what pitching you on like a player podcast that you had to do? He's like, No, look, Bill, this is my deal, okay? This can work out real good for me and Zone. People think players' podcasts are done. They're coming back. Uh the Minnesota snapshot we get here of the Paul Bunyan statue, the accent, college hockey, crap bars and motels, buffets, bar girls. Kind of sort of escorts.

True Coat being really important for your car. God, that's a great scene. It's just a really good slice selection. I didn't even mention that scene. Yeah. See, that's that scene with that guy pissed about the True Coat. I love it. Uh I think it's Ethan Cohen says that is verbatim something that happened to him. Really? Is like coming down to be like, all right, we finally agreed on a price and he's like, I fucking slipped the true coat coat charge on you.

Right under the like the last second. And they get it in. Yeah, because he's like, I I don't have my car anymore and now I'm down here in the middle of the winter. Give me the goddamn thing. Yeah. The guy in the scene so badly doesn't want to swear and he goes, Fucking liar. It's like the way it's like, all right, calm down, calm down. Jerry being like, I gotta talk to my boss. But yeah, he says he can knock a hundred dollars off that true code. And God, that seems great.

I also have the accent stuff, which we talked about, but um I think my favorite one is your darn tutin. Yeah. I don't know how you even write that. Where do you guys think this is an unanswerable question, but just because of an accent thing, do you think Carl's supposed to be from Minnesota or is he from out of town?

All right, so he knows a lot about Minnesota, including like where to get laid. Like, he wants all about the glass ICS building. I think he's from the Midwest, not necessarily from Minneapolis. I think he's from the Midwest. Okay. Cause he's like, oh daddy, when when the guy gets shot in his lap. Yeah, that's a weird thing. And he's just like it's a weird thing to say. He also like seems pissed at

Jerry and and Wade and people to be like, You guys are so so annoying, like how nice you are. You think you're big time. What do you mean? Oh, that's so good. So you think it's possibly from like Sacramento? I don't think it's from California'cause he seems pretty used to the northern winds, but like I see him from being like Peoria or Joliet or something. Do you have any what stage the best? Of all the the language things, I like ending a phone call with real good then and hanging out.

That's how they say goodbye in the accent, including the best part is when Carl is saying, I'm gonna shoot you and your wife and all your little fucking kids in the back of the fucking head. Be there. And Jerry goes, all right, real good then. And throws up. Like I I love ending a phone call that way, throwing the phone down like that.

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All right, great shot, Gordo. We did it. Got a couple. Paul Bunyan towering over the night sky. Hmm. Scary. Looks a lot like Gare. Uh the innocent couple driving by the state troopers murder scene. Jerry going by past the parking attendant that sort of like them sort of um going into danger that way is really great. I got opening scene. Yeah. Uh Chess Rockwell, Brock Landers awareness, best character name. Would you go Marge Gunderson or Jerry Lundegaard? I I would go Shep Proudfoot.

Shep Proudfoot. Shep Proudfoot's great. And it's it's even great when the little deputy comes in, he goes, Shep Proudfoot, that's a name. Like they and they actually acknowledge how cool the name is. And when Marge says Mr. Proudfoot, it just sounds awesome. Yeah. I love it. What do you have for uh

Flex category here. Oh, okay. I don't have the kid cut it'cause we didn't really have a needle drop in this. I we did my we did Sean Penn, brought my own pack. I had the Rick Chochetty Guard Meat Award for the most memorable death by a security guard or other bystander whom the movie treats as inconsequential. But who probably had a spouse and kids who loved for the state trooper who gets top of the head shot. Yeah.

I mean you could also go for the poor parking garage guy. Sure. There's a lot of like just Or you could go for the two kids who are just driving by. And just trying to get away and they fucking flip their car. Otherwise it's Sean Penn. I brought my own pack award for Stormer. The the state trooper is a great trooper too. He picks up on the bullshit, he sees the tags.

Here's the here's the point in the back. He's trying to give him he's trying to pay him off. Yeah. I mean he's got the fifty hanging out about the top. He's like, I'll just pay for it here in Brainerd. Yeah. Wanna be in compliance? Butch's Girlfriend Award, week link of the film. This is tough. Anyone? I think people would put in Mike Yannagita.

Then they're not watching the same movie, isn't it? I think that's an important scene. I don't have a weak link. I I think the only weak link could be if you're someone who is really turned off by graphic violence.

I like the the wood chipper, I'm not that person. You know, like if if like I don't know if my wife would like the state trooper scene and she might be like I don't like that movie because of that. But Or if it's too flippant, if there's something about the violence that doesn't feel like wait, we have to sit with this. It's so wishing.

Scotty's just not curious enough or where's mom? He's a teenager. I know, but I was trying to think of my own son, if my wife would just disappeared out of nowhere. How many days before he would have been like, Hey, where's mom? What the fuck's going on? Or why are you on the phone all the time? I think I just think kids are a little more perceptive.

Then he asked like are you gonna call the cops? Are you gonna call Stan? And like he's nervous for sure. I think the kid calls the cops. At some point the kid's like, My mom's gone. I want I need to tell the police. 'Cause he says to his dad like we should call the cops and he's like, No. Like he's he really like puts the whole part about not calling the cops as a borderline we break out of compressed amount of time too. I don't think it's like we could a half of them like

Kicking around really. One of the lessons of this movie, call the fucking cops. Sure. That's that was the father-in-law's mistake. It's like, no, no, we can't bring him in here. And Scotty, nicer to your mom'cause you never know when she's gonna get kidnapped. Yeah, true. Yeah. Come on, Scotty. Uh what's age the worst? We mentioned how they did the the Blair Witch move.

That was really all I had for what's age the worst. Because it just seems dopey now because you would just Google and be like, this didn't happen. Why'd these fucking guys do this? I think as a character who is age the worst, if you went into the future in the fictional world of Fargo, it would be Scotty, totally fucking orphaned. But Terrible. Probably a multimillionaire.

Because he why isn't Wade's estate. Inheriting Wade's estate. Yeah. So now he's running parking lots and all of Brainerd, I guess. Very dark guy. I would love to see Fargo too, just the Scotty Chronicles. That's the guy that's going to be a good thing. Maybe he buys the Minnesota Wild. You know, like

That's good. But in with Glenn Taylor and the Tea Wolves. I guess the only thing the other thing that's aged the worst is I personally don't really see a lot of hot buffets getting getting used up rec anymore. Do you? I see'em at the supermarket. Our supermarket has a hot food buffet. It'll be like a sweet and sour shrimp and then like ears of corn. It's always i interesting. Yeah. But then I I just always think twice about it. I think Middle America, it's still going. Okay.

There's a big Spit guard factor there. Yeah, it's very communal. Even okay, put it this way, smorgersborg style, like it's all 4,500 calorie per scoop. Yeah. My age the worst was really jarring watching this. Do you guys now like do you sleep with your phone on your bedside table or is it away from where you sleep? It's it's pretty close. I I I uh flagrantly don't listen to all the evidence not to put your phone near where you're gonna be. Oh, you should I haven't like

Within reach. I've done the work and it's like in another room. Margie being woken up by that phone next to her fucking face with an actual functional bell inside it, like in the middle of the night. Like I I wonder if like when Ben watched this, he's like, Holy shit, like that phone is so loud. And you don't even know who's calling. It could be an ex murderer or it could be some weirdo from high school. The fact that she just is picking this up in the middle of the night, like

I used to do that of course because I was alive for that, but that's aged terribly. And if you took the phone off the hook it it would be difficult to do, You know, a dozen cops in like a certain area in Brainerd. So she's got to have the buffet for lunch was a good call, CR. Okay. Because of what stage the worst.

When you said smorgasbord my mouth dried up a little bit. Yeah, it's just like I just I I just very rarely come across somebody's like, I gotta hit this chicken fricasy and meatballs before I get the afternoon part of my jogging.

Like we'd write we'd have this big lunch that they would cater every day. Okay. Yeah. They'd bring in like Italian and People would be like, Oh, we should get Thai today or Zanko Chicken and Get all this food and we would all like overeat and then it's like all right, time to write jokes and we'd all be like Yeah.

Like all right. You don't even eat like before we do a live show, like it'll be eight PM. Yeah, I only eat for like five hours four. Pure hot water. So then I was like, We gotta stop eating so heavy before we do Joe, like we should get healthier stuff. Every was so fucking mad at me. Yeah. Like fucking Simmons, your East Coast shit. Wanted to get salads. Fuck you. Like they wanted sandwiches and that stuff. But

I was thinking about that when I was watching that buffet of just eating a sweet Swedish meatball at twelve thirty in the afternoon. I would I wouldn't be able to function after that. Uh Hans Gruber scale, villain ranking. We'll do Stormar, I guess, for this. Well how do you think that's the first thing? Is Jerry the most evil person in this movie? Mm.

I had this in Unanswerable Questions, is he the worst person in the middle? I actually think he is,'cause he doesn't care about his son at all. Yeah. He has stuff to actually care about and doesn't. His wife and his son, he's just they're fucking disposable for some weird. Stormare is just like a sociopath. He doesn't feel anything, but I think Lundegaard is the most despicable character by far. So in some ways he's like the biggest villain of the movie. So what ranking would you give him?

I have like zero to Gruber. Yeah. he's also the biggest pussy because a little bit below a Simon Simon. Yeah. He he like in they had they call him out in the first scene. He won't even ask his wife or the father in law for the money. Oh when they c when they catch him in the hotel room and he's

Oh my god, isn't that great? Screaming like a baby gap. He's fresh, fresh in prison. I think Lundegaard's gonna go in prison. Lundegaard's Lundegaard's done. Jesus, Lundegaard in prison it'd be a five second. He's making friends with the skinheads to try to survive. He's just getting killed. Rufflohan and Rubinek Partridge over acting word. I didn't have anybody. I mean you you want to give it to Yanagita? No. Like he's these spectacular.

Crowdfoot may be the closest. Yeah. Yeah. You motherfucker. Uh you have a flex category, Kyle. All right, flex category. Um I'm gonna do the uh the Will Campbell award for a character you know is way in over his head and is going to mess it up for the rest of the movie. No, I just made that up. Oh my god.

I haven't seen Bill since the Super Bowl. So I wanted to hit him with some Super Bowl. Will Campbell word for the character with the shortest arms? Yeah. I felt like I got shot in the face like Carl. There's an actor you know is not up to the task with the rest of the cast. Does he have a torn FCL? Allegedly. Allegedly. No, I um I have Billy Batts award for the most biting and scalable uh insult.

The scene with him pulling up to that t the parking ticket. Oh my god. And he Your clip on tie. Here we go. Uh I suppose you think you're an authority figure. That stupid fucking tie in uniform how big guy? King clip on tie there, big fucking man. If these are the limits of your life, pal, ruly a little fucking gate here. Here's your four dollars, you pathetic piece of shit. God, isn't that erotic?

And this guy you they that shot of his smile just fading into stupid bad teeth and everything. It's it's and then as as there's this part with that scene changes where He goes, I just pulled in here. And then he has this point. He goes, I just fucking pulled in here. And then the guy starts honking. Yeah. Like that scene is so relatable. Like we've all been at that gate.

Do I really have to pay the four dollars? And he even tries to like kind of reach out to him where he's like, I've decided not to go on my trip. Yeah, it turns out like I'm deciding not to park. I'm not even flying where I thought it was gonna fly. I still have to pay the four dollars. Right. You fucking kidding me? Oh god, I love that part. And it's an amazing put down.

That was a good one. Thank you. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been hair support hotest take award. What'd you have, CR? Uh we alluded to this a little bit in our opening conversation, but this movie is in direct conversation with No Country for Old Men and I think, you know, you have the bag of money, the character in over their head, sacrificial wife and a cop who is trying to make sense of the extreme violence that they come across.

I thought it was amazing that Marge's last lines basically is like, so that was Mr. Lundegaard, uh that was Mrs. Lundegaard over there on the floor. And I guess that was your accomplice and the wood chipper. And those three people in Brainerd and for what? For a little bit of money. There's more to life than a little money, you know. Don't you know that? And here you are, it's a beautiful day. Well, I don't understand it. And then

at Tom Bell, Tommy Lee Jones in No Country, just goes, The crime you see now, it's hard to even take its measure. It's not that I'm afraid of it. I always knew you had to be willing to die to do this job, but I don't wanna push my chips forward and go out and meet something I don't understand.

It's just kind of like that. I've gotten to the sort of part of evil and the darkness out there that is incomprehensible. And it's amazing that these guys are like that in between Cormac McCarthy writes this novel, but that they're kind of making the same story and talking about the same stuff. Hm. Interesting. Yeah, cause that that's one of the things I love about No Country is he has this realization like

What am I doing this for? Yeah. Like there's some dark shit out there. I'm getting older and I just It's not for it's not not for me anymore. I think about that when I watch some of these cop movies sometimes. These people

you know, in their early thirties, they're jumping over like parking garages trying to catch somebody. And it's like at some point you must realize Definitely. What the fuck, man? There's just gonna be another guy coming. I know. I'm doing this. I don't get respect from anybody for it.

Remember, I mean the end of seven where he's like, The world is a wonderful place and worth fighting for, I believe the first part. Yeah. And the Morgan Freeman's just like I just saw the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. And I'm just done. This this total I think I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. Um, what did you have for this Kyle? Um so Geyer Grimsrud, Stormir in this. Yeah. Of all the insane shit he does in this movie.

The wood shipper, the executions. By far the craziest thing he does is calling for a second pancake meal in the day. Fucking outrageous. And in the morning you have a full stack of fluffy, buttery, syrupy pancakes. And you're sitting, it's like media constipation. You're sitting, you're fucking farting. You are chain smoking, so that might help with a constipation. And then in the same day, you're like.

Let's run it back. I want another stack of pancakes. Carl's first reaction is, what are you nuts? And I feel like the coins are like, we need a creative way to tell people what a lunatic this is. He's only interested in like cigarettes, pancakes, and killing people. Not even like not even pasta or pizza. Pancakes. I don't want it in the same week after a plate of pancakes. And there's also this funny detail where

The line says, We stop at Pancake's house. And he kept going to the Cohen's and be like, I think there's a typo in the script. It should be Pancake House. And they're like, There's no typos in the script. Pancake's house, which makes him sound more crazy. I It's like you have a fucking mattress in your stomach all day. I'm trying to remember like this is a great one. Like, when have you doubled cuisine in the same day? And what cuisine would it be? Pizza, maybe like

Tacos like a breakfast burrito. He'd be like, Oh, I'll do a morning gumbo and then like a nighttime seafood tower. I'd I couldn't. It would probably be protein, probably not dairy. Yeah. But you know that Grimms was like that full ice cream scoop of butter on every slice, not to mention the sides.

And Carl's like, let's go get a steak and a beer. I know. And he's like, more fucking pancakes. It's insane. And all the other shit he I get why he puts the wood chip where he's to conceal the evidence. He shoots the cop for self-preservation. The pancakes is inexplicable. Red Arbeck used to find any Celtic that had pancakes.

Are you serious? Just slow them down? Just an actual fight. Are you saying Red Arbak invented heat culture? If Red Arbac found out you had pancakes, he fined you like$25. He thought they were the worst thing a human being could eat. Yeah, they're rough. They're fucking amazing though. Uh my hat of steak.

In nineteen ninety seven, a year after this movie, a pilot was filmed for a T V series set in Brainerd shortly after the events of the film, starring Edie Falco as Marge Gunderson. No involvement from the Coens directed by Kathy Bates, the pilot. You can find on YouTube. I sent it to you guys. It's an amazing what if. Yeah. Because if this pilot gets picked up.

The Sopranos now no longer has ZD Falco as Carmela, who I think there's three people that have to be on that show, right? If you're going with Sopranos. Does this show work without these people? It's really only Tony and Carmella.

I even think you could have somebody else's Melfi and probably be fine. Yeah. Polly Walnuts would be my third. I just think he's irreplaceable and w one of the funniest people have ever been. Would Imperioli be like Chris Defense? Imperioli, maybe. So there's four. Yeah, Imperioli would be the fourth. Um

But I just think if you take Carmelo out of that, I don't think that's the greatest show of all time anymore. So the pilot doesn't get picked up. Huge what if. It's almost like we have in sports where it's like There's a change. Oh, Portland had taken M J the fucking world splits. The ripples go up to there's no Fargo uh series from Noah Hawley. Mm-hmm. Right. So you miss out on

Pearson Dunst and Jesse Plemming season, the Billy Bob Thornton Renaissance kind of starts on Fargo. Yeah. Like there's a lot of stuff that comes out of Fargo that wouldn't have happened. Edie Falco shit instead she goes and does Oz. Yes. Which leads to Sopranos. We get her an Oz for a year. Because they initially they wanted Bracco.

For Carmela. She said no. She didn't know. She didn't want to be the wife again. She's done carrying. So I wonder if they could have gotten her. Probably not. I think you're right. Like you can't have that show without Falco. She's the one of the greatest performances ever. You know why she didn't want to be um the wife, Carmela? Cause that's all we had! They would have found it! They would have found it! They would found it! Oh yeah! They would have found it. Casting would have Oh no!

The way she says, oh no. Cassie Woodhips. I almost couldn't believe this and had to research it and it's true. I thought I was internet bullshit and it's just not. Bill Pullman was supposed to be Jerry. Really? Bill Pullman. Bill Pullman was supposed to be Jerry and had to back out, had some sort of scheduling conflict, and that's what led to William H. Macy before. Like yeah, Macy talked about how he basically like chased the Coens across the country doing auditions.

Bill Pullman. He's way too handsome. Like he's he Pullman is dashing. Like he's romantic leads. No way. God, I wonder what he pulled out for. Bill Pullman is that wouldn't have been That's not Independence Day, right? Like when w when would you have a Independence Day is right is like ninety six. Right around there. Bill Pullman was in the mix in like a big, big A list way for like five years. Sure.'Cause even Malice, which we have not thought on the Rewatchables, but Sierra and I both love.

But uh he's it's him, Kidman, and Alc Baldwin. It's the three of them. Um he's in Independence Day and I don't know. He's just wide out of the sleeping or e there's in one of the wider. It's not in tombstone. Yeah, the wider one. Uh then they looked at Richard Jenkins for a while and gave it to Macy. Jenkins. Jenkins Jenkins is so good in brand. Jenkins with a Minnesota accent? I know.

If if Pullman becomes Lundegaard, does William H. Macy become the president of the United States of in Independence Day? That'd be pretty good pretty good. Wow. As Jerry Linda guard. We will not go quietly in tonight, okay? Uh best that guy. It has to be Harve Presnell as Wade Ghost of Sun. I don't Is that what you had, Chris? No, I had Larry Brandon Burke. I got Larry Brandenburg too. Stan? Stan Grossman? He's in Shawshank. He's part of the crew.

Think about it. He doesn't have any lines. But he's part of that red and Andy crew was betting on the fresh fish. And I just I had no idea what his name was. Larry Brandenburg as Stan Grossman. Is that what you had, Chris? That's what I had. It's a really good one. You might be right. Because the only reason I had Harv.

He hadn't made a movie in twenty years. Yes. He was like this fifties, sixties, seventies guy and then retired and then they'd like pulled him back somehow. They had the best eye for faces. Like they'll just be like that's that's who it is, you know. And then like Two seconds later he's in private Ryan as like a general and Spielberg cast him, right? He shows up in that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the Sha Shank crew was um it was The guy who was in silent rage. Yeah, that guy.

I don't know his name, but it was the stuttering guy. Brand, I do believe you're talking out of your ass. That guy, yeah, yeah. The stuttering guy. Uh huh. Um, it was Brooks. Yeah, William Sadler. William Sadler. Yeah, yeah. And then that guy was the quiet guy. Yep. Morgan Freeman. There was one more two. And then I guess the uh Well, there's uh the guy from The Sopranos, uh who marries Janice. Isn't he in that crew? Yes. Yeah, Richie Prill. Yeah, Richie April's. DM Waiter's award, Steve Park.

Who do you have? Steve Park. Steve Park has Mike Yanaguita. I could offer you Ship Proudfoot. It's Steve Pork. Um it's maybe the one of the great dions of officials. I could offer you the guy who wanted to pay nineteen five for his vehicle with no true code. Very funny. Very good. And I could offer I could offer you Jose Feliciano. Got no complaints.

And I can offer you the two escorts who made the point that uh he was funny looking, not circumcised. I love all the offerings. Chris, you just brought me there. Uh I have Yannagita on my waiter's rushmore. Like I have Drexel and True Romance. I've got walking in pulp fiction. I've got Mike Yanaguita and I've got the goat multiple MIGs. Like those, those are my four all-time Dion waiters. Multiple. He's in the George Washington state of of Rushmore, multiple MIGs.

Two lines of dialogue and eternal impression. But Yanagita is on that with me. Go on. Uh John what John Marley is Jack Wilson Godfather. Wow yeah. Yeah. We've had so many good DNs. I'd love to see the complete list. Yeah. That's a great list. It sounds like a bracket too. Tourney time. They they did um Roger Ebert would be a good bracket. Roger Ebert did a special episode of their show with Scorsese in when it went to 2000 where they list their top ten movies in the night.

Scorsese comes on and he says he's got Fargo at number four. One of the first things he says in his commentary about this movie that won all these awards. And there's this this amazing scene with this this Asian American actor who uh giving all his emotions out and it's just a beautiful scene. Like he fucking loved the Yanaguita scene Scorsese. It was like his favorite scene in the movie. Yeah. It's so, so, so good. Who do we have for Pope for Dion? Was it the wolf?

Or walk in. Oh. Or walk to this watch up your own. I think it was walking. Yes. Yeah. Do you know that the guy, Steve Stephen Park? I know everything about this scene. He's he's talked about this scene and when he performed it, Mike Yanaguita, the coins came up to him afterwards and they're like,

So fucking funny. Hilarious. And he was like really hurt because he was like, This is supposed to be. What do you mean? Like I thought it was I was like pouring my heart out. It's it's funny, like they're laughing. He thought it was like a straight dramatic scene. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Um

The fact that I mean the fact that he goes same side of the booth and just takes that and takes that. And then she's like, I didn't want to crane my neck. I know. And Chris, we've never done a pod to be here. Can you imagine five minutes then I'm just coming over here? Do you mind if I sit over here and you're like, no, I like you over there. I can see you better.

Because if she was all right with him sitting there. Oh my god, dude. They're 15, he's going in for the kiss. Yeah. I have a take on that that like Yanagidi has a room. And he's got there early. He's got a room at the Radisson. He's just for lunch at the Radisson. No, no, no. He's suited up. He's got like a scotch. Like this is everything. Hold on.

She suggests the Radisson. It's a fucking hotel. Do you think when he's watching her on TV do the press conference or, you know, get interviewed about this case that she he can see that she's pregnant? Or does she have a big coat on?

I don't know. But you think he's like pregnant fetish? No, I just think it's like I wonder if when she walks in So we have to go clearly pregnant corn searches for this movie. Woman on top and pregnant or two third trimester too. Wood chipper. I think he's probably crestfallen that she's pregnant. I think so too. I think when she orders the Diet Coke, he's like shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Recast the couch director city. She wants her to get like a long island. Yeah. You know? I wonder I I would hope if she would not leave that drink unattended either. Like I think everything's on the table. It's not good. Recast the couch director city. You can't do a different city. Can we test drive uh Robert Duvall as the father-in-law? Yeah, give it a test drive just because he passed away recently. But yes. It's taking like a little more firepower for that character.

Does that do anything for this? It's going to McDonald's. They didn't finish. Yeah, he'd be fantastic. The thing I like about it is like these guys pick this dude out of relative obscurity, hasn't acted from twenty years. It looks like the role of his lifetime, the role he's been meant he's meant to do And he does the exact thing they need him to do. And sometimes it's like I know.

When he brings like a 70s, what if Brando could do this? And it's like, well, what if Brando then ruins the movie? You know? He shows up too in uh in face-off right after this. Like he got caught. Yeah. He's in face-off too. Like he directors were picking him. They liked him. Uh half as certain research. Mm-hmm.

Stormhour has eighteen lines of dialogue. Great. Never says more than one second. I think most of it is in the pancake conversation. You know what that makes me think of? Our guy right here. Very few lines of dialogue. Machine like killer. It's it's it's it's post to the song. Look at that guy. I know that man. In his book Stand for Something: The Battle for America's Soul, Ohio Governor John Casich.

Spends three pages describing his hatred for this film. Yeah, okay. What's his substance? That's all I didn't know. I think he probably hates what its depiction of a smaller town, America. The uh Paul Bunyan statue was built for the film and dismantled? Wade's car dealership was filmed in Richfield, Minnesota. Now occupied by a Best Buy. Okay. King of Clubs was in northeast Minneapolis, demolished in O three, replaced by low income housing. Before BS come in with a s a tiny little investment.

Joe Cohen had McDormand and John Carroll Lynch conceive a backstory for their characters. to get the feel of the characters. And they decided Norman Marge met working on the police force. When they married, they had to choose which one quit.

Norm quit and took up painter.'Cause Norm doesn't work, right? Like he It's a painter. Painted the three cent stamps. I assume that they work that they went to high school together because Yadagita's like, Oh, you remember her? She was a year behind us. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he was hilarious in high school. Yeah. Uh

The trademark Minnesota, yeah, appears 179 times in the script. Great. That's all I got. Apex Mountain. Okay. Uh well for Apex Mountain, certainly Swedish meatballs. Because when you think about What IKEA was doing with their their amazing cafe. Yeah. When you would go get some furniture that you would then get divorced while you put it together. Yeah. Uh uh And then also this movie I just I don't really know when Swedish meatballs have peaked again. I would also say GMAC financing plans. Sure.

Uh I I Riley Giefenbach? Yeah, just and then uh True Code Sealant. Would you say Cone Brothers? No. I'd say no country is Cone Brothers. I would say that as well. Uh Macy, it's not yet, but maybe after boogie nights we're getting there. Getting in the vicinity.

Some would argue the cooler when he actually led a movie that had a lot of people in it. Yeah. Shameless, right? The show. Like people love that show, Shameless. He was on for years. Yeah. I like Emmy Rossom. I never watched it, but I know people like it.

Minnesota, probably the World Series in eighty eight or eighty seven. Kirby Puckett. Oh fuck yeah. Or ninety one. One of those two World Series. Ken Herbeck, Greg Ganyang. The ninety eight Vikings and Moss was rookie year and Randall Cunningham and they went to the title game. They were unbelievable. KG winning that That first round series against the game. Oh yeah. Uh windshield scraper scenes. Yeah. Yeah.

Buscemi? Nah, well. He wins a Golden Globe for that boardwalk empire. This is my favorite role of his. Yeah, I think there's been bigger moments. I think Conair's probably like his apex. He got that right after this. Yeah. He starts being a movie star. He starts doing all the Sandler movies. Like, it's funny, I would probably

I'd probably say I'm not right, but I would probably say Sopranos because he was also directing. Yeah. And when he was in Sopranos, it was such a big deal. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, they got Buscemi for Tony's cousins. And he was amazing. Unbelievable. You're right. I can't believe they're doing this. And the way his story ended on the porch is that's so good. McDormand, no.

But I don't know what it is. I think it's a good idea. Three billboards was like the most attention I think she got. The blue ox. Probably the most fun anymore to have there. Yeah. Yeah. They're having a hell of a time. Shovel Murders? Better shovel murder for you? We we we danced close with some shovel murders in home alone. That's the thing. It's implied. Yeah, the this the the sheets. Just no shovel. Yeah. Um Halloween there was a good through the face shovel murder, but this was pretty good.

Yeah. Or go to town. It could have been named Brainerd. I mean the most of the action, the movie takes place. Yeah, so they they talked about that and said they just like the name Fargo better. This is the best thing about them is that like people will spend decades kind of like unpacking their movies and they're like, Nah, kidnapping's just cool.

Yeah. We just like making movies. Why didn't you name it Brainerd? Yeah, it doesn't sound good enough. Margo sounds much cooler. Storm air, I'm still going Dino Velvet. Yeah. I don't care how good he was. I think Armageddon, but yeah, I'll do six months after this movie came out, he was In a jungle with Steven Spielberg shooting the Lost World, like he had a fucking. What a run. Late nineties was a good run. Oh my God. He was everywhere. Gangling cigarette smoking.

There's a scene where Ray Stance and Ghostbusters has one dragging on his lip for like 10 seconds as he's looking at Slimer. It's iconic. He lets this thing hang and he's like, I don't know how they did it because I it it but it's it's really you know what I'm trying to do. It's really funny. Minnesota accents? Yeah. Yeah. All right, here's my favorite one. In movie Disfiguring Facial Wounds, Mount Rushmore. I have one battle. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Freeway with Kiefer Sutherland.

Okay. Brees Witherspoon shoots him in the face and then he's Fargo, what's the fourth one? Uh it's definitely Aaron Eckhart in Dark Knight. There we go. Two face. Burns half of his face off in the face. But he even gets shot though. No, I'm sorry. I just mean face injury. Well, I I think we can sneak that in then. Gus Spring has the same thing at the end of breaking bad. Like half of his face is melted off just like that. That's true. That's good.

Cruiser Hanks. It's Hanks because he thinks this is a perfect movie. And Hanks. Could have played how many characters in this He could have played Jerry. Jerry for sure. He could have played Jerry. The older Hanks could have played the dead. Yeah. Wade. Uh

Yeah. I mean he could play he could play the guy shoveling snow in his driveway. He was like going crazy out there. Yeah. Honestly, he would have been a really interesting um storm air. It's never really went we never got dark hanks. Not this dark, no.

Yeah. It would have been disorienting to watch him play a somebody that evil. This the uh Road to Perdition, he's a killer with a Tommy gun and gets in gunfights and stuff like that, but not like this. I have I have Cruz written down as Stormere just because

Oh. I wanna collateral guys talk about his smoking. Yeah. Like Vincent from Collateral. The smoking. He's just like, I just want to see you guys break down Cruise. Oh really? Yeah, Cruz just being like you're fucking imbecile. Oh, like doing cocktail cruise. Yeah. Yeah.

Scorsese or Spielberg, clearly Scorsese. We did best hang, worst hang, the two criminals. Carl Garrett is what I got. Uh the Sarah Connor award for Would Modern Technology ruin this movie? Yes. Ring cameras, cell phone pings and texting. I think we catch these guys in five minutes. Yeah, you can't take a license plate off of a parking garage car. You're just you're everywhere. You're on five cameras. Kind of wild that when he sh when she gets out to the

the scene of the state trooper being having been shot. It's just two cops like like you'd think there would be like The FBI would be there. Like there would be like 30 cops out there and there's just the two of them. She asked Lou, where is everybody? He's like, Well, it's cold, Margie. That's the explanation. It's cool. That's right. There's like that no one wanted to come out. Pick and it's I have a couple of good ones, but what'd you guys have? I I'll rattle some.

First of all, uh the London Guards would definitely have a dog, which I think would be a fun part of the home invasion. Um the fact that Scotty does not have a Kirby Puckett poster in his room is ridiculous in nineteen eighty seven. He likes hockey. He likes hockey. Uh most importantly though. He would have had a North Star's poster or something. North Star something.

Most important, picking knit. I know it's a funny line. It makes for a good dialogue. There's no fucking way Carl is uncircumcised. This is a white guy from the Midwest. Hello. There's no fucking way. I know it's funny. Now, if you want to talk about Stormair, the Swedish guy, then we can talk. Yeah. There Carl is d she says it wasn't I get it's funny. There's no fucking way he's uncircumcised. That's a great one. Oh my god. Happy CR month. Uh why does Carl not take on?

Why does it go back for Gare? And go back to like be like, hey, I got some money. Some money. It's a ban of honor. Maybe he's worried he'll come after him. Maybe. He gives him the forty thousand. He's like, I got a million. I'll just gonna do this right, close the end, I'm outta here. But if yeah, I mean he represents why did he bury the m the money?

'Cause you don't want to show up to the house with it in the car. Yeah,'cause then he can he can always use that as like if he needs to Well why wouldn't he bear bury it closer to the house? I know. Well,'cause his half of his face is hanging off. Yeah, I guess he's All right, so I have two. I have The father in law never connecting dots. Seemed like a smart guy, a good businessman. Yeah. Jerry needs

He wants the money himself for the kidnapping seven hundred fifty That's a good one though. Then the kidnappers want a million. It's like right in the vicinity. I just sort of been like Unanswerable question is what's what's Jerry gotten himself into? Is he They don't want you to know? It's like the suitcase. He's taking out loans on cars that don't exist. Yeah. Is it to pay for something else or is it to pay for that parking lot?

They don't want us to know. Yeah. Or is it just to get it? They said they they Cohen's literally said we don't we didn't want people to think about it. They did the uh the pulp fiction stuff. Just write'em hard to read in pencil and fax it. And that's like that's the perfect crime. My patience is at an end. Yeah. Well, I was thinking, what's the most realistic, funny reason that he's

Down three hundred thousand dollars or whatever, it'd be like him gambling. I'd go for the eighty six World Series. Playoffs ninety three. You've got to be thinking differently about him now that I know Jerry Lenegard has a Playboy hanging right there in his bathroom. He might be some sort of purpose. At the at the diner, you know?

That's a very weighted moment. Yeah. He kind of looks and says, How you doing? Yeah. Like he full up does how you doing to her. It's a good call, Chris. There might be something there with him. I think the father in law would have figured that out. Second thing. Why are the criminals in the car for this long? I did some Googling. It's it it's not that far? Fargo to Minnesota, four hours. Brainerd to Minnesota, two hours, Brainerd to Fargo, three hours. Why do we have to

Why don't we have to stay overnight? Minneapolis. Why do we have to stay overnight anywhere? It's a four hour drive. You do it. I'm driving do it in three. To get a hotel and sleep in the same way. You're gonna do it in three despite the fact that it's complete whiteout blizzard can you I have to do pancakes twice with Stormar and then share double bed hookers with him? I wanna get to my location and get get away from this guy.

They make it seem like they're driving from like New York. I can't imagine anybody more miserable in this circumstances than you. Oh my gosh. The smoking in the car at the windows is like a personal assault. Oh my god. Honestly, it's it's they uh they say that's a uh cancer agent. Whatever, yeah. Carcinogen, whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's a sociopath behavior.

Um okay, sequel prequel prestige TV, all broadcast untouchable. Uh obviously Prestige TV because we had it. Yep. And now I didn't see the first season of Fargo. I never watched the Fargo TV series, which is a whole. Maybe I should. But the first season picks up with what what happened to the money, right? Yes. They talk about the case that's buried? There's a the case is buried is goes back and I think one of the characters is Marges.

I think Ted Danson plays Marge's father or grandfather. I can't remember. I it's been a while since I've seen it. Elijah Wood? No, that's Frodo. Oh, uh Elbo. Yeah. What's the guy he's a fa super famous actor? I thought he was the lead in Kyle you're in the wrong room right now. Ian Holm? Yeah. No, no, no, not Ian Holm. In the new movie, in the the Hobbit movies.

What's that guy's name? Oh, Martin Freeman. Yeah, Martin Freeman. Yeah, I can't remember. I this is the thing is is I I just haven't seen the Far Fargo since they came in. I haven't seen shit either. You guys might be talking another language, right? No. Bildo? No?

When's when's the fellowship pod? It was C Arma. He could have pushed for it. If you could do Star Wars, you could do fellowship. Never. It would be funny to do Hobbit in this room and you just aren't there. We just have like a cutout of you. Like right there. Cages like shot collar and being a shot collar. Uh is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergie the Florist, Zane Lowe, or somebody else? Kyle, you want to go first?

I go first. Um, all right. So it's March. I'm gonna have to really work up for this. Um I just feel like at at that Radisson I I I think Gus is there. Mike Jan Kier! Young F- Ha ha! Shoot it up to the Radison! Linda Cooksy, suck it! Same side of the boo! AHHHHH RESTECT! No, no, no. My voice isn't right right now. Holy shit. It's March. It's Gus time. Mike Canaguini would be the best name Gus never say he would love that one. There's a guy on uh Arguson now Darius Acuff. Oh yeah.

It's just w keep waiting for Gus. You're really having a college football foot uh basketball reticence. I'm into this draft. Yeah, I've been watching. I watched, yeah. Yeah, I've been watching some. Holy shit, Gus. CRD I was gonna do Zane, but like it feels like it all. No, no, we people wanted Zane. Maj, I just wanna say right out front, right out in the open, you're on an incredible journey in law enforcement, but you're also on an incredible journey

Of motherhood. And tell me about that. Tell me about your journey. Because we're all watching, we're all waiting, just like you. Chris, what you do it, you do you do this thing? Yeah. That's like that's perfect. I've been watching a lot of tape. I'm gonna I'm gonna improve over the course of CR month I think. Yeah. I hope that's not to the detriment of Frenchie appearances because I that's no I'm such a fan. Yeah. I even lived in the ass pod. The policewoman. And the mother.

Yeah. I do think Carl Schellwalter would also make an incredible first tape guest just because he's like, I'm not gonna debate you. I'm not going to debate your Stephen. That's great. Carl Scho Walter, what do you think about Anthony Richardson going to a new team? Carl. I'm not gonna debate you. I'm not here to debate. Carl, is Sam Darnold now an elite quarterback in the league? Carl, the ninth person at first take not to sell any of Shrakes' jokes.

Oh God. I'm selling them at home. I'm laughing at home. A couple of people are on there, so only a couple. Uh just one Oscar who gets it. I mean McDormand when they asked her. I I would say Macy Bishemi or Francis or the Cohen's or Deacons. It's like a legit. And the Oscar goes to Stephen Park as my daddy. Let's say Marge. Marge. March up here. So what's going on with you, Madge? You're doing law enforcement, you're doing the motherhood thing. Norms painting. What?

Keep us all up. Where have you been, man? Maj, you eat lunch. You eat so many calories. So he'll do like a fifty five second long question and then Tamin Paul will be like, Yes. It's so good, man.

Uh probably unanswered questions. Why was Marge pregnant is a question my son asked, but I I think Oh, that was one of his questions. Why did they make her pregnant for the movie? Was there a purpose band? I think she's the she's just to make it a crazy of new life in a world that's got so much death. Yeah. We talked about what kind of money trouble was Jerry in. Could you... You really dispose of bodies for the wood chipper? I think so.

You got a high grade wood shipper and you're a strong back. You know, it's pre Napta machinery. They really just driving it out. Because he probably was gonna put Mrs. Lundegaard in there next too. It's a lot of DNA evidence though on the everywhere. It doesn't make sense. Those guys are spoging all over motel rooms across Metro. That's true. They're like when Michael Douglas comes in and does the black light and there's like this guy. Uh do you have any answer well?

If they put the tags on the license plate, do they get away with it? Like that unravels everything. Which is, by the way, Carl is so stupid. Like you have to put the fucking tags on there. That means there's no murders in Brainerd. They get to the house. It probably goes sideways because Wade's still gonna show up for the drop off, but Carl's not gonna be pissed and having killed people now. I just the ta if they put the tags on, does it work? It's a great point.

But the fact that he doesn't because he's like fuck them. I know I don't put my tags on is exactly why he's a criminal. So it's like The same reason why it's like, if those guys don't need to get laid basically every night, I know, they're fine. Like nobody's seen them. Nobody knows who they are. It's the they find them through the escort.

It would seem like the number one thing you're doing as a criminal is you're going at some parking garage at three in the morning and taking off somebody's license plate and pushing the case. But that's like that should be one of the first five things. Like get a gun, steal a license plate.

Um, leave my cell phone at home so I can don't have a lot of violently tinged conversations with people in random bars. Right. You know, that are very memorable. Don't tell two escorts exactly what my plans are for the next five days when it includes a kidnapping.

And do it for more than twenty thousand dollars. Like that's what they're originally paid. Twenty grand each for the whole abduction and everything. It's pretty bad. That was another an answer I had is what was uh Stormare's What was his what was he doing two weeks before this? Smoking. Bouncer at a bar, like but like part time driving a snowplow being in that state the like three packs a day, eight eight beers a night.

Probably a girl at the end of it for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously not a great guy'cause Shep knows Carl but doesn't vouch for him. I I don't understand what their relationship is. Carl and Shep. I think it's just doing prison time with each other. Yeah. I don't I don't vouch for it.

I thought he's like, I don't know that guy, don't vouch for him. Well, he's lying because the second Shep comes in, he says, Shep, what are you doing? I was banging that guy. And they're they're at his house. Maybe he's just being honest. I don't vouch for him.

I think it's because Shep and Grims are they're one of a kind. They don't fucking talk, like they're very violent, whereas Carl never shuts the fuck off. And I think that's the worst thing you can do as a criminal is keep talking. One of the things I always learn from these crime movies is You're just more likely to commit more crimes after you get out of prison with people you serve time with.

So really the move is to when you get out of prison, cut all the ties with the people you're in prison with'cause that's where they're gonna look immediately to see if Well, was he in that? Don't ever call anybody slick. That's right. Yeah, any sort of nickname. Don't really have any traits that people can point to. Yeah. This changes the whole movie. What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie? I just want to say I really like the cop jackets.

Oh yeah, with the with the fur hood. Yeah. Yeah, I think if you got like a game used for like what was her her dumb partner's name? Lou. Lou. Yeah. Game used Lou, how game used Lou like like walk and talks around LA where that yeah. And when it gets cold? Uh I would also offer a Gustafson Motors sign. Yes. Like just have that right over there. Gustafson Motors here would be really cool. Yeah, Gustave Motors. I was uh I I was really charmed during the Ace Venturapod.

Listening to Craig Horbeck's naivete about isotoner gloves and Dan Marino, that he couldn't wrap his mind around just leisure gloves, cause it's a really weird concept. Uh Carl has driving gloves for the entire movie. It's so good. With the open knuckles and everything. That's great. I think I'm ready to enter a driving glove phase of my life. Driving slippers as well. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. I mean slippers. Yeah. I I want Carl's gloves and I'd like to just drive to like

Is it better grip? Like what am I getting out of less pressure on your hands? So it's like this pat there. I think it goes back to when there wasn't power steering. And you had to really twist the wheels. I think it's that old school. And now I just think it's stylish. Guys who were just like, I gotta drive six hours, my hands are gonna get calloused if I don't.

Coach Finstock, Mr. Miyagi were best worst life lesson. There's more to life than a little money, you know? Don't ya know that? Yeah. Uh that's gotta be the life lesson. I had a Mr. Miyagi worst life li life advice. Uh the kids like to say twice in a day. Worst. Uh the kids like to say, you know, shoot your shot. Like Mike Yannagida, don't shoot that shot. Yeah. Sometimes you don't shoot your shot. Take the take the social cues, Mike. Yeah. Yeah. Don't he even shoot deranged.

Linda Cooksie. He was bothering her for a long time. Booth move was fast. I m I might have waited for So but you don't know how long Mike's been sitting there dr drinking doers though? Like maybe he's got a lot of liquid conversations. It looks like a doers. Yeah. I saw that. Doers feels like a lunchtime at the Radison drinking. I think when she picks the place and it's a hotel, I think you think you're ready to roll. She answered the phone at ten forty five. Yeah.

She's excited as hell about it. She's dressed up. Another city with the husband at home. She even says we've been married a long time in the scene. Like she's a little excited. She wasn't gonna do anything but a little walk on the wild side. Yeah. Best double featured choice, no country. Eight millimeter.

Double. I want more storm air. I want more storm air. I got it written down. Eight millimeter. Um, one of the most intense theater experiences I've ever had. Terrified in that movie when he's walking through machines. Three millimeter with Kyle? I didn't realize you liked the movie this much. We'd have to have Van in it too. Sure. Men's recovery project of guys talking about eight millimeter again.

I gotta go back and listen to the first millimeter podcast. You're gonna see things you won't be able to unsee. When he's just looking through his fingers at that shit and it's just rolling on him. Oh I love that movie. Hardcore is on Tubi, by the way. What's your double feature?

I have a triple. Oh great. My God. Raising Arizona, Fargo, no country. There you go. Just later. Every ten years. Just check in with the Cohen's. Daddy Killers. Uh I think they won the movie too. I have them for who won the movie. It's completely original. depiction of the world. You know what I wrote down?

I wrote down Minnesota. Oh. Where'd you go, Kyle? Pre Randy Moss, pre Joe Maurer, pre Jesse Ventura. This Marge Gunderson was like the face of Minnesota for Highwood. Early KG. KG's on the team, but they don't know he's gonna be KG. Yeah. Rookie year. Yeah. I don't know I I feel like Minnesotans might have a love hate with this movie'cause maybe that makes fun of them. I think I think This movie had like the only dip in its popularity was like any kind of feeling that it was

mocking the people at the shop. And this is a criticism that Cotins get sometimes where it's like, Oh, they're making fun of the people that they're depicting. Yeah. But I don't think that's truth. I just think that they see humor in it, you know? It's really funny.

We're gonna throw to Craig who's not here, but he's gonna because he's at Ind Indianapolis for the combo. Oh, gotta be there. But but uh Craig's gonna weigh in with his take right here. All right, fellas, what's up? I am in Indianapolis right now. Not really, but at the time of this taping I was. So I'm gonna respond here in my own little solo video. And I gotta say, guys, I know you're not here right now, so you can't respond to me, but guys.

Screenwriting's dead because what the Cohen brothers are able to do with all of their movies, you almost forget how it used to be and how tight things used to be. I looked it up. The Cohen Brothers have made one movie that came out in theaters that was over two hours long, and it was No Country for Old Men was two hours and two minutes.

Outside of that, you look at the 80s, the 90s, and the 2000s, Raising Arizona, Blood Simple, Fargo, Burn After Reading, True Grit, Serious Man, all under an hour and 50 minutes. So yeah, I made you realize screenwriting is dead. This is a 98-minute movie and it has everything you need.

The length makes you want to rewatch it. The scenes are tight. They do exactly what they need to do and they get out. And yet it doesn't feel rushed. It never feels rushed. So I love Fargo. I love the Cohen brothers. I was a film major in college and I always felt like the Cohen brothers were making movies for young people who love movies. And they felt like film major movies, not in a stuffy way, but in an attainable way. Like everything they do feels real and kind of handpicked.

And like you can recreate it. And like it makes you want to go out and do your own stuff. So I've always loved the Cohen brothers. Their movies are always slightly off balance. You kind of always watch with your head tilted a little bit. Um, and they're really funny. Dark, twisted, funny all the time, all of their movies.

Also, one of my favorite things about Cohen Brothers movies in general and specifically with Fargo is the casting. Everybody in this movie looks like a real human being. Bill Macy, Bishemi, Francis McDormand. All the way down.

who's been in like four of the last five rewatchables we've done, Peter Stormill and keep going, uh, all the way through. They all look like real people. And I I just think that makes such a difference. And it's a little different now the way that things are casted and Half of the side characters we ha we have now have like need to have five hundred thousand Instagram or TikTok followers to be cast in a movie so that you can market a little bit more.

But they all feel like real people. And the person now who I think is doing that similarly is Tim Robinson, who when you watch a show like The Chair Company or his movie Friendship or things like that. Everyone in those movies feels real. And it's fascinating. And it to me, it just it makes you more invested in the story. So I love the Coin Brothers.

Uh I love Fargo. I think the the scene where both of the uh guys are having sex in the motel next to one another, followed by the four of them watching the tonight show is one of the funniest scenes in movies. So uh that is my review, five out of five on Letterboxed. Thanks.

All right, thanks, Craig. I can't believe Craig has a thing for a pregnant woman. That's so fucking weird. Wow. I respect it, buddy. Respect it. Really? Hardcore. Send it out of Indianapolis and see what happens. Um that's it. Well, we did it. CR month. We have two in the book. How do you feel? Three movies left. So far, so good. Good. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of pressure. Are the three movies mapped out?

Uh we have a couple mapped out. We have three mapped out. We know we're ending the month with LA confidential. Yes. And there's two two more that we don't know. We're negotiating with each other. You got Bud White taking care. Oh yeah. Yeah, we even like dived out of Netflix. We dived out of Netflix for this. Yeah. Um, find it on other. LA Confidential ends the month. Mm-hmm. How about I give you your balls back, you wopcock. I fucking love Bud White. I'll be listening, folks.

No, that was watching Gus and Zayn back to back. It was just an honor to be here. I felt like I was at a buffet with Swedish meatballs and chicken fricassing. Uh thanks to Gahau and Eduardo as well. And uh CR month will be back. We just say what we're gonna do next week? Well, what are we doing next week? Well, we were talking about a certain movie that we'd been talking about for a long time that uh recently became available. Eddie of the Cruisers. Oh shit. That's been years.

I've just, we gotta do it. Words of music, CR. All right. Thanks, Kyle. Great to see you. Thanks, CR. Great to be here, Bill.