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The Rest Is Money

Goalhanger
Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

Episodes

138. What is Elon Musk really up to?

As Musk continues his hostile takeover of the US government, Robert and Steph look at the impact his dramatic overhaul is having. It sounds like chaos but could it pave the way for a more radical approach to public finances in the UK? Plus we discuss what Musk wants from OpenAI. And whether all this drama will end with a spectacular Trump/Musk fallout. Or have they both got too much to lose? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismoney@...

Feb 13, 202543 min

137. Trump’s Trade War: Winners, Losers and The Global Fallout

Robert and Steph catch up after a dramatic week of Trump's trade tariffs and consider their ripple effects across the globe. Will consumers pay the price for an "America-first agenda"? And, is there any genius in Trump sowing economic uncertainty? Also, will the Bank of England’s “careful and gradual” approach to cutting interest rates to 4.5%, go far enough? Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Inst...

Feb 10, 202542 min

136. Are Labour’s Growth Goals Meaningless?

Steph and Robert are joined by Praful Nargund, founder of the Good Growth Foundation, and Chris Curtis, MP for Milton Keynes North, to speak about Rachel Reeves’s growth targets. They consider what growth actually means to everyday people, whether it’s felt evenly, or if Labour should be prioritising something else altogether. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @R...

Feb 06, 202548 min

135. China: Business Partner Or Security Threat?

Steph and Gordon Corera, host of The Rest Is Classified and the BBC’s Security Correspondent, discuss the security risks posed to the UK by Rachel Reeves’ new ploy to secure Chinese investment. Also, how Huawei was replaced by Tik Tok, and then DeepSeek, as the latest digital threat to the West and why an era of subtle ‘cognitive warfare’ has been ushered in by social media. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @The...

Feb 03, 202538 min

134. Will Rachel Reeves’ New Found Optimism Bring Growth?

Robert and Steph catch up after Rachel Reeves’ attempt to bring back confidence in the UK economy. With plans for a third runway at Heathrow, a corridor of investment between Cambridge and Oxford as well as money for projects in places like Manchester and Wrexham, we discuss the pros and cons. And for a change it’s Steph who takes on the role of Eeyore. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram:...

Jan 30, 202534 min

133. Will Trump’s Chaos Strategy Work?

Steph and Robert catch up on Trump’s first week back in office. Looking at the likely economic impact of his decisions on mass deportation, the environment, energy and prices. As well as what wasn’t said on things like trade tariffs with China. Plus with Rachel Reeves hoping to convince us she’s got a plan for growth this week, we discuss whether a third runaway at Heathrow is going to cut it. And why we’re in an ugly competition. Good news though: we’re not the ugliest. Sign up to our newslette...

Jan 27, 202538 min

132. Why Britain Isn’t A “Science Superpower”

Steph and Robert speak to Sir Paul Nurse - Nobel Prize winning cell biologist and Director of the Francis Crick Institute - about how science funding needs to change, why the UK is failing to lure global talent, how we scrub up against the other OECD countries in terms of research and development and how - despite being a geneticist - it took him 55 years to discover who his biological parents were. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney g...

Jan 23, 202553 min

131. Why The Stats Behind The Budget Might Be Wrong

The founder of the OBR and now boss of all official statistics Robert Chote explains to Steph and Robert why the UK’s unemployment numbers are so unreliable and why the chancellor should be braver and not obsessively try to meet her fiscal rules at all times. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: https://opinion.askattest.com/EWJ34 Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: restismo...

Jan 20, 202550 min

130. The Brutal Truth Behind Britain's AI Gamble

Robert and Steph are joined by Peter Kyle, the Science and Tech Secretary of State, to evaluate whether the prime minister’s plan to turn the UK into an AI world leader, while simultaneously modernising public services and making us richer, has any chance of succeeding. We appreciate your feedback on The Rest Is Money to help make the podcast and our partnerships better: https://opinion.askattest.com/EWJ34 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jan 16, 202552 min

129. How Serious Is The UK’s Debt Mess?

Steph and Robert are joined by Dr Gerard Lyons, an influential economist and Bank of China board member, to discuss whether Rachel Reeves is wise to ask China to invest in the UK, whether the Chancellor will need to come back for more tax rises later this year and what he really advised Liz Truss to do. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpod...

Jan 13, 202552 min

128. Will Starmer Stop Musk's Meddling?

Robert gives us his take on 'Starmer vs Musk' and Steph tells us why she thinks business rates are going to be a big problem this year. There’s also a discussion about misunderstood concepts in economics, first up: GDP. Plus we catch-up on the exciting post Steph and Robert received over Christmas. A clue: it involves a Clinton and a Truss. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMo...

Jan 09, 202537 min

127. Is Trump’s Bark Worse Than His Bite?

Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for one of the leading financial institutions in the world, JP Morgan Asset Management, talks to Robert and Steph about how Starmer can restore investors’ confidence, why she worries that the surge in the Magnificent 7 huge tech stocks is over, how AI can make most of us better off and whether Trump will be less radical than his rhetoric. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheR...

Jan 06, 202544 min

126. Why 2025 Will Be The Most Important Year Of Our Lives

Steph and Robert explain why 2025 will be the most important year of our lives, and assess whether it will be a terrible or great year. It is all about the unraveling of globalization and the proliferation of wars. One word nutshells the world on a fulcrum: Trump. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunk...

Jan 02, 202539 min

125. The Scandal Of Slum UK

Why are so many low income families living in the kind of slum conditions that would have shamed the Victorians? And why are so many of these slums in social and council properties? Robert and Steph look for explanations and solutions, and ask whether Labour’s promise to build 1.5m homes will help, in a conversation with ITV’s award-winning investigations editor Dan Hewitt. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheR...

Dec 30, 202447 min

124. Can Labour Restore Public Trust in 2025?

Steph and Robert reflect on some of The Rest Is Money’s big insights from 2024, including why governments should focus on improving our happiness rather than our incomes and why Labour’s biggest mistake was to ignore the black hole in the public finances before the election. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer:...

Dec 26, 202432 min

123. When Will The Next Financial Crisis Be?

Robert and Steph answer your questions including whether we are heading inexorably towards another financial crisis and whether the UK might be more prosperous if the National Health Service were privatised. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Cont...

Dec 23, 202436 min

122. Google At A Crossroads

Google is making huge bets on artificial intelligence and quantum computing. It is reinventing how millions of us work and live. But in the process is it also eating its own lunch, destroying the search business that turned it into one of the world’s most valuable companies? Steph and Robert put all this and more to Matt Brittin, Google’s most powerful European executive, as he prepares to step down and quit Google after 17 years. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of b...

Dec 19, 202452 min

121. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 2

Robert and Steph talk to Sir Bill Browder about making billions after the fall of the Soviet Union, only to end up with a target from Putin on his back. This is a story of murder and corruption leading him into his life’s work persuading governments to hit human rights abusers where it hurts. The threat of Putin’s revenge is ever present and Bill’s stories include the time he was bundled into a car by Spanish police fearing for his life. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the wor...

Dec 16, 202432 min

120. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 1

Steph and Robert are joined by Sir Bill Browder, political activist and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia, to discuss how using Russia’s frozen assets against them could help Kiev win the war, why Putin won’t take a Trump peace deal and why the toppling of the Assad regime may only prolong the war in Ukraine. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @Th...

Dec 12, 202440 min

119. Can Labour’s spending review really mend public services?

Robert and Steph speak to Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, about whether Labour can fix our creaking public services in next years spending review, if it’s realistic that Wes Streeting will ‘reform’ the NHS and why vital data on the UK jobs market is so poor. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistan...

Dec 09, 202443 min

118. Global Mayhem: Is The UK A Safe Bet?

Steph and Robert discuss what the collapse of the French government and other unfolding global crises mean for the UK, why Keir Starmer does need to choose between the EU and the US and how businesses are using Labour veterans to lobby the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 05, 202434 min

117. How Much Did Brexit Cost The UK?

Robert and Steph answer your questions including why Rachel Reeves chose to raise national insurance on businesses instead of simply putting up corporation tax and how much harm leaving the single market has cost Britain since 2016. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head...

Dec 02, 202434 min

116. Are We Sacrificing Growth For Worker's Rights?

General Secretary of the Trade Union Congress, Paul Nowak joins Steph and Robert to discuss whether the new Employment Rights Bill, the reforms to ‘Get Britain Working’ and the changes to National Insurance are good for workers but bad for business. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: R...

Nov 28, 202441 min

115. Trump Could Kill The Dollar

Jim O’Neill, the influential economist who created the BRICS concept, joins Robert to explain why he thinks Reeves’s controversial budget could yet be one of the most important for decades, how Trump could destroy the dollar’s priceless reserve currency status and his anxiety that Russia, China and India are abusing the BRICS brand he created for them. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: ...

Nov 25, 202451 min

114. The End Of The G20?

Robert and Steph discuss their respective trips to Brazil - with the Prime Minister for the G20 summit - and Belfast - for lunch with Hillary Clinton; both of them involving conversations about leadership and the future of trade and democracy. Plus, reaction to the latest inflation figures. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Ass...

Nov 21, 202430 min

113. Dan Neidle: Labour Put Up The Wrong Taxes

Tax guru, Dan Neidle joins Steph and Robert to explain why the chancellor’s decision to increase employer’s national insurance was such a mistake, how capital gains tax should have been reformed and why farmers just have to trust their children if they want to avoid the new inheritance tax liability. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcas...

Nov 17, 202445 min

112. What Trump’s Economics Means For Us

Steph and Robert discuss how the UK should respond to Trump’s economics, why business is falling out of love with Labour and whether Starmer’s plan for clean energy by 2030 is deliverable or sensible. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Pro...

Nov 14, 202437 min

111. What Would Happen If We Didn't Tax Anyone?

The Undercover Economist, Tim Harford joins Steph to answer your questions, including how a taxless society would operate, whether we can get ourselves out of economic mess by making different lifestyle choices and where butter mountains and wine lakes come from. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkl...

Nov 11, 202444 min

110. Will Trump Make Us Richer Or Poorer?

Robert and Steph look at the risks and rewards of Trump’s radical plan to reshape America’s economy, they profile the unconventional likely next Treasury Secretary in a Trump administration, they explain how Trump could blow up Rachel Reeves’s budget and they highlight how crypto is huge in US politics and non-existent in European. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTo...

Nov 08, 202435 min

109. How Can We Make Taxes Pay?

What do beards, bachelors and windows have in common? Financial Times Columnist, Tim Harford takes us on a tax tour. And with £40 billion pounds worth of tax rises coming our way, Tim chats to Steph about what difference they’ll make and whether we’ll get the growth Labour want. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 07, 202446 min
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