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The Rest Is Money

Goalhanger
Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

Episodes

124. Can Labour Restore Public Trust in 2025?

Steph and Robert reflect on some of The Rest Is Money’s big insights from 2024, including why governments should focus on improving our happiness rather than our incomes and why Labour’s biggest mistake was to ignore the black hole in the public finances before the election. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer:...

Dec 26, 202432 min

123. When Will The Next Financial Crisis Be?

Robert and Steph answer your questions including whether we are heading inexorably towards another financial crisis and whether the UK might be more prosperous if the National Health Service were privatised. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley, Hannah Rashbass Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Cont...

Dec 23, 202436 min

122. Google At A Crossroads

Google is making huge bets on artificial intelligence and quantum computing. It is reinventing how millions of us work and live. But in the process is it also eating its own lunch, destroying the search business that turned it into one of the world’s most valuable companies? Steph and Robert put all this and more to Matt Brittin, Google’s most powerful European executive, as he prepares to step down and quit Google after 17 years. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of b...

Dec 19, 202452 min

121. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 2

Robert and Steph talk to Sir Bill Browder about making billions after the fall of the Soviet Union, only to end up with a target from Putin on his back. This is a story of murder and corruption leading him into his life’s work persuading governments to hit human rights abusers where it hurts. The threat of Putin’s revenge is ever present and Bill’s stories include the time he was bundled into a car by Spanish police fearing for his life. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the wor...

Dec 16, 202432 min

120. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 1

Steph and Robert are joined by Sir Bill Browder, political activist and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia, to discuss how using Russia’s frozen assets against them could help Kiev win the war, why Putin won’t take a Trump peace deal and why the toppling of the Assad regime may only prolong the war in Ukraine. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @Th...

Dec 12, 202440 min

119. Can Labour’s spending review really mend public services?

Robert and Steph speak to Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, about whether Labour can fix our creaking public services in next years spending review, if it’s realistic that Wes Streeting will ‘reform’ the NHS and why vital data on the UK jobs market is so poor. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistan...

Dec 09, 202443 min

118. Global Mayhem: Is The UK A Safe Bet?

Steph and Robert discuss what the collapse of the French government and other unfolding global crises mean for the UK, why Keir Starmer does need to choose between the EU and the US and how businesses are using Labour veterans to lobby the government. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dec 05, 202434 min

117. How Much Did Brexit Cost The UK?

Robert and Steph answer your questions including why Rachel Reeves chose to raise national insurance on businesses instead of simply putting up corporation tax and how much harm leaving the single market has cost Britain since 2016. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Ross Buchanan Head...

Dec 02, 202434 min

116. Are We Sacrificing Growth For Worker's Rights?

General Secretary of the Trade Union Congress, Paul Nowak joins Steph and Robert to discuss whether the new Employment Rights Bill, the reforms to ‘Get Britain Working’ and the changes to National Insurance are good for workers but bad for business. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: R...

Nov 28, 202441 min

115. Trump Could Kill The Dollar

Jim O’Neill, the influential economist who created the BRICS concept, joins Robert to explain why he thinks Reeves’s controversial budget could yet be one of the most important for decades, how Trump could destroy the dollar’s priceless reserve currency status and his anxiety that Russia, China and India are abusing the BRICS brand he created for them. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: ...

Nov 25, 202451 min

114. The End Of The G20?

Robert and Steph discuss their respective trips to Brazil - with the Prime Minister for the G20 summit - and Belfast - for lunch with Hillary Clinton; both of them involving conversations about leadership and the future of trade and democracy. Plus, reaction to the latest inflation figures. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Ass...

Nov 21, 202430 min

113. Dan Neidle: Labour Put Up The Wrong Taxes

Tax guru, Dan Neidle joins Steph and Robert to explain why the chancellor’s decision to increase employer’s national insurance was such a mistake, how capital gains tax should have been reformed and why farmers just have to trust their children if they want to avoid the new inheritance tax liability. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcas...

Nov 17, 202445 min

112. What Trump’s Economics Means For Us

Steph and Robert discuss how the UK should respond to Trump’s economics, why business is falling out of love with Labour and whether Starmer’s plan for clean energy by 2030 is deliverable or sensible. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Pro...

Nov 14, 202437 min

111. What Would Happen If We Didn't Tax Anyone?

The Undercover Economist, Tim Harford joins Steph to answer your questions, including how a taxless society would operate, whether we can get ourselves out of economic mess by making different lifestyle choices and where butter mountains and wine lakes come from. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkl...

Nov 11, 202444 min

110. Will Trump Make Us Richer Or Poorer?

Robert and Steph look at the risks and rewards of Trump’s radical plan to reshape America’s economy, they profile the unconventional likely next Treasury Secretary in a Trump administration, they explain how Trump could blow up Rachel Reeves’s budget and they highlight how crypto is huge in US politics and non-existent in European. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTo...

Nov 08, 202435 min

109. How Can We Make Taxes Pay?

What do beards, bachelors and windows have in common? Financial Times Columnist, Tim Harford takes us on a tax tour. And with £40 billion pounds worth of tax rises coming our way, Tim chats to Steph about what difference they’ll make and whether we’ll get the growth Labour want. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nov 07, 202446 min

108. Rachel Reeves Has Made An Important Start

Robert and Steph chat to former Chief Economist of the Bank of England, Andy Haldane, about whether the Chancellor took enough risks in her budget, whether many economists are being too gloomy about the outlook for productivity and wages, and why we need a revolution in our schools and universities. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcast...

Nov 04, 202451 min

107. Rachel Reeves: “We Don’t Need To Come Back And Ask For More”

Robert and Steph hear from the Chancellor about how she shaped her history-making budget, why she won’t be coming back for much more tax in future budgets, why the IFS is wrong to say she’ll have to top up departmental resources in the coming spending review and what she has to say to the business owners who will bear the brunt of the tax raises. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRe...

Nov 01, 202434 min

106. How Much Pain Is Rachel Reeves Inflicting?

Was the budget too harsh on small and medium businesses? How much pain will ‘working people’ feel from the tax changes? Is the OBR right that this mega budget won’t increase the size of the economy over five years? Steph and Robert discuss. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Evan Green, India Dunkley Producer...

Oct 31, 202439 min

105. What You Need To Know To Judge The Budget

Robert and Steph assess Reeves’ ambitions for the most important budget since the 1980s, whether hypothecated taxes work, and how Russia, China and India are plotting the biggest attack on America's economic power in history. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Evan Green Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Conten...

Oct 28, 202453 min

104. Martin Lewis: Are we better off under Labour?

Martin Lewis, the MoneySavingExpert, joins Robert and Steph to crunch the numbers on how Labour got it wrong on the winter fuel payment, the scandal of councils’ vicious debt collection, how schools are failing our children and why, despite suing Facebook, scammers are still getting away with using his face. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhang...

Oct 23, 202451 min

103. It’s Time To Live With Higher Inflation

Steph and Robert talk to leading economist and investor Mohamed El-Erian about how growth is the only solution to our national debt burden, how he would re-write the fiscal rules to allow for much more public investment and why central banks must increase their inflation targets from 2% to 3% Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com P...

Oct 20, 202447 min

102. Anthony Scaramucci: The Truth About Trump’s Economic Madness

Former Trump staffer and The Rest Is Politics US host, Anthony Scaramucci joins Steph and Robert to explain why Trump’s planned interference with the Fed would wreck the US economy, why America’s billionaires like Musk don’t care and why he’s backing Harris. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Pr...

Oct 16, 202457 min

101. How Rachel Reeves Will Re-Write Fiscal Rules

What options does Rachel Reeves have to allow for more investment, how can we be more productive as a service economy and does the NHS have a management problem? Steph and Robert answer your questions. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assistant Producer: India Dunkley + Becki Hills Producer: Ross Buchanan Head of Content: Tom ...

Oct 13, 202438 minEp. 101

100. John McDonnell's Alternative Autumn Budget

Robert and Steph are joined by former Shadow Chancellor of The Exchequer, John McDonnell, to discuss what he thinks Rachel Reeves should and shouldn't do in the upcoming budget, how child poverty should be Labour's number one priority, and how he feels about this Labour government in general. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com A...

Oct 09, 202443 minEp. 100

99. How To Stop Big Tech Damaging Mental Health

Robert speaks to economist Danny Blanchflower about the surge in mental ill-health among young people, which his global research shows is linked to the proliferation of smart phones since 2014. As a former member of the Bank of England’s MPC, he also talks about what’s gone wrong at the Bank. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com A...

Oct 06, 202435 minEp. 99

98.⁠ ⁠Why Reeves Is Struggling To Find Taxes

Robert and Steph discuss how changing pensions tax relief in Rachel Reeves’s budget could lead to strikes by public sector workers, why putting up capital gains tax rates may see less money raised by government and why private equity giant Blackstone is investing £10bn in the North East to build the biggest AI data centre in Europe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 02, 202437 minEp. 98

97. The Economics of Happiness

Robert and Steph are joined by Lord Richard Layard, a 90 year old economist who has dedicated his life to researching and encouraging politicians to consider the happiness of their populations when taking decisions. They also discuss whether faster growing economies increase wellbeing and how the presence of women in politics has positive effects on the people who live in those countries (most of the time). Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Ema...

Sep 29, 202435 minEp. 97

96. Will The Autumn Budget Cure Our Blues?

Robert and Steph discuss how the Treasury can encourage more investment to fix the economy and public services, why the Bank of England didn’t cut interest rates and isn’t doing more to stimulate growth, and whether the government is right to force employers to allow us to work from home. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRestIsMoney TikTok: @RestIsMoney goalhangerpodcasts.com Assis...

Sep 25, 202433 minEp. 96

95. The Children's Homes Scandal: Part Two

Robert and Steph catch up after the huge response we’ve had to the Children’s Services special episode and ask the Secretary of State for Education, Bridget Philipson, how she intends to fix the shocking crisis currently involving the hundreds of millions of pounds of profit being made each year on the care of children at the taxpayer’s expense. Sign up to our newsletter to get more stories from the world of business and finance. Email: [email protected] X: @TheRestIsMoney Instagram: @TheRes...

Sep 22, 202443 minEp. 95
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