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Discipline Isn't Enough If Your Mind Is Chaotic - David Goggins

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Summary

David Goggins explores the critical link between mental clarity and discipline, arguing that a chaotic mind hinders progress regardless of motivation. He discusses confronting past traumas, embracing chosen suffering, and the importance of self as the ultimate purpose. Goggins shares personal insights and stories, like William Crawford's humility, to illustrate how organizing one's "mental lab" and developing an unwavering "no way out" mindset are essential for true resilience and self-discovery.

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Watch the full video interview on the new Resilient Mind YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVCDvdBLnE0


An accomplished endurance athlete, Goggins has completed over 60 ultra-marathons, triathlons, and ultra-triathlons, setting new course records and regularly placing in the top five. He once held the Guinness World Record for pull-ups completing 4,030 in 17 hours, and he’s a sought after public speaker.


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Intro / Opening

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Welcome to the Resilient Mind Podcast. In this episode, you'll be listening to Discipline Isn't Enough If Your Mind is Chaotic with David Goggett. This episode is also available in video. Watch it on YouTube by clicking the link in the show notes.

Enjoy.

Embrace Life's Challenges and Self-Reflection

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You get to face a lot of sh you know, man. You got a long journey ahead of you because you're gonna find out that while your dad did a lot of to you, you're gonna have to make it on your own. Because this world we live in is tough. It's tough. It will beat you down.

The world in the life that we live in is the ultimate competitor. The world's dust. The world's dust. It will try to take you out. It will, it will find your weakness and it will just hammer you. So it's time to get back to work. Get back to work. Stop hearing yourself talk. Get off the podcast. Don't be on social media too much. Cut out all the fucking noise. Get back to the fucking mental lab. Because that's where the knowledge came from.

You need to get to a point in your life where there's nothing can hurt you because you know exactly who you are. You've faced your demons. You were able to hear all your past trauma. You were able to listen to them. You're able to say, okay, now I can now talk to people about what I went to. I'm no longer embarrassed. I'm no longer ashamed. Being ashamed is one of the biggest things that kill people nowadays in their minds, kill them for moving forward. I'm ashamed of.

Don't ever be ashamed of anything you've done in your life. Face it, fix it, make it better. Everything I need is in my mental lab. Everything. Because I'm in constant study of myself. And I know what needs to be conquered because I'm constantly going through what I don't like. What I'm not comfortable with. I know and only I can fix these problems. Because I have to face these problems.

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Unchosen suffering is gonna happen, right? So the only thing that you can do is have some chosen suffering to prepare for it.

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It's the only thing you can do. That's the only thing you can practice for the unchosen suffering is have chosen suffering. Do something that sucks every day. I'm not trying to send a message of run two hundred miles. Be the bad fucker in the world.

But be tough. You better have a part about you that's tough, a part about you that can break down situations and get better. And break down situations very quickly within some trauma in your life, some devastation in your life, because it's gonna come. the devastation, the trauma's gonna come, and you can't allow that to become a jersey barrier. It can't be a jersey barrier. It has to be something that you can maneuver through very quickly.

move forward. That takes a lot of toughness. A lot of people, when you die, they figure out why you died. They figure out how you die.

in the autopsy.

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But we never do live autopsies to figure out why we're dying while we are alive. And I was dying. I was living every day. But I was really dead. And so I figured it out. So once I figured it out, I was able to reborn. I was able to be reborn. You must take this knowledge that you learn from all this shit is knowledge.

So I'm just trying to give people that strength to go in the archives of your life. Because while you're probably fed up, there's probably something happened to you in your life. Go through the archives, dig it up.

Your Innate Purpose and Humility

And then use it for yourself. That's that's the main purpose for me right now. You need to be better here, you need to be better here, you need to overcome this, overcome that. And I, you know, people need to have purpose to get up. They need purpose to perform. You need to get to a point in your life

where there's nothing on the docket. There is no 5K. There's no, I'm going to get into school to be this or that. And still perform to the highest level. Because what people don't get is one day that thing's going to come up. And if you're not constantly performing without purpose

You're not going to be ready when the time comes. It's this magical thing, purpose that we're all looking for. But what's funny about it all is that we need these things to perform, but we don't take a second to realize. The purpose is always there. The purpose never leaves you. Because the very purpose is you. You are always the purpose. There may be another purpose, like being a seal or going to college or whatever, but the main purpose in life is you.

So if you wake up in the morning and you don't want to do something, you don't care enough about yourself. And that's what you need to really research is why am I not doing this for myself? Because that is the number one purpose in life. is to better oneself. So that's the only purpose I can need. So the reason I get up every day, even though there's no race or there's no school or there's nothing in front of me, is because I have pride in myself.

I was born David Goggins. David Goggins wasn't good enough. He was a scared, bullied, uh, abused kid who struggled in life. And that kid, whenever something got tough, no matter how hard I trained, no matter how ready I was. Whenever something got tough for me, David Goggins, the real David Goggins, would come out and he would quit. So I realized this over a period of time. So I had to build Goggins. And in that process,

That's where I get better. I get better when I'm digging holes in the ground, when I'm waking up early knowing I don't have to do these things. That's where I get better.

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So it's important to stay hungry.

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It's important to stay hungry. is important more to stay humble within that hunger. So while you're hungry, a lot of people are hungry. But humility is everything.

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What was that story about William Crawford, the janitor? Yeah.

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So this guy won the Medal of Honor. So he won the Medal of Honor. And which is the highest award in the military. And this guy went to the Air Force Academy and he was a janitor. And no one knew who the f this man was. He had the highest award in all the military for heroics. For heroics, saving lives, putting his life on the line, you know, could have been killed. And he is now basically, you know, cleaning his shirt.

for young kids. And we can all imagine how that probably went. You know, there's probably some, you know, little bit of taunting here and there. And he just sat there and cleaned the share. So that's why he's in my trained humility part, because for this man to be at the level he was and have that kind of humility to go, I'm a medal of honor winner, but I'm gonna put that in my closet.

And I'm gonna pick up my broom and dustpan. And I'm gonna pick up, you know, this rag and clean this sh for these young men. That right there is amazing for me, man. That's that's where you grow. That's that's growth. Huge growth. And also it shows that he was doing his job. He was a servant. He didn't look at himself any better than anybody else. The second you do that, you totally lost.

You cannot look at yourself like people with me even. I always look at people. I I know where you are. I know where because I've been there. That's why I help so many people out. I've I've never been above you. I've always pretty much been beneath you and that's where my knowledge came from. So I know how to reach those people who are in the dungeon because I've been there so many times. You have to be your best self when you're least motivated. And that's the tricky part about all that.

Cultivating a Clear and Disciplined Mind

Motivation is just a word. You have to have these different things in your mind on where you want to go and know that motivation is not going to get me there. Cause I'm not going to always be motivated.

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Joko said the exact same thing. He said that discipline needs motivation for breakfast.

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And discipline's good too. But without a clear headspace, there's no discipline. What do you mean? So let's say we have a circuit breaker, okay? And I'm lowering everything up to one Just load it up. It's gonna f blow. Once that thing blows, man, the circuit's all fed up. You gotta have each thing plugged into the right spot, like a fing crowded garage. You can't put anything in it. Once your brain is crowded,

Discipline is great. Motivation's great. But if you can't fit sh it in your brain because it's all concluded with There's no discipline. You may have it sometimes when it fits in that crowded garage of your mind, but you don't have the consistency that you need to have with that discipline. I call it mental zone. Is you're organizing your mind. So you can put that discipline. So a lot of people talk about discipline. Okay, great. Why do you fall off the flag?

Why can't I continue with this routine, going to the gym, being better, waking up early, eating the right foods? It's because maybe it's your kids, maybe it's your wife, maybe it's your job, and it's all just stuffed in your fing brain. You don't have it compartmentalized and organized in these nice shells.

A lot of people whose brain, hey, where's my devil's? Ah, let me look. They're f and throwing they're looking through totes, they're all full of things. So where am I gonna put discipline in that mind if I can't find other You gotta be able to find all these different things in your mind. Oh, I can put discipline right there. If your life is not organized and your life being everything around you, because it takes one little the piece of an outside interference.

To cutter your whole mind. Your mind has to always be clear. That's why I meditate two hours every single night. Because I refresh, I reorganize the garage, which is my mind every night. So then discipline's in there, organization, everything is in this right spot. I'm waking up and I'm giving myself all this armor. So when I come out in the world, I'm ready. I'm not waking up late. I'm not rushing around. I'm not disorganized.

So when I wake up, I'm ready to go. Why is the truth so important? You have to have the truth to have a starting point. And your true self is found in that very uncomfortable zone. We all look for toughness. We all want it, but we look for it in a comfortable environment. You will not find toughness. In a comfortable environment. Those of you who are listening to this, you will not find it. The only way you find it is to drown yourself.

in a position where you're just out of sorts, where you can't swim and you're drowning. Where you're drowning. When you say, you know what, man? Dad. Once you come face to face with who you are. you have a starting point. It's in our head saying, you know what, man, you're not you're not doing shit. You're wasting a bunch of percentage here. In this other eighty percent is suffering, pain, failure. Failure, failure, self-doubt, darkness.

And then a whole bunch of light. But to get to this light, you gotta go through all of this shit. You're not succeeding and you're not achieving. It's because you're afraid to go to that damn place abide yourself. You're setting goals you know you can reach. And when you do that That fear, that insecurity, that doubt, that's where you quote. You must always take that goal.

Then you think you're just not serious. And then you get better. When now Crump goes off at four or five in the morning, your mind says no, you just say, This is what we do. is what we do now. Because to get to where you want to go, the amount of pain involved, the amount of mental pain of how many times you're going to have to do something that you don't want to do.

To get to where you want to go every day. You must ask yourself, did I do enough? And then once you do this over and over and over again, it becomes like breathing. I don't want to live this lifestyle, but to get to the other side of this.

Unleashing the Power of Your Brain

I have to.

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So if you really want it, you realize what trying is and what trying is not. Your brain is the most powerful weapon in the world. Once you put away your phones and your computers and all that shit we have nowadays, your brain Is the only thing you have when you're going through depression, when you when you're going through hard times, you're going through death, real life shit.

You can't Google that shit, man. You're alone. You're alone. You may have a shrink you're going to, you may have a best friend you're going to. But there's 24 hours in the day where you're alone in this brain and your brain is talking to you in all kind of ways and it wants to control you and pull you in these different pockets. If you can't control your own brain and your brain controls you, your

You gotta tell your brain where you want to go and how you want to go and how you want to get there. You gotta control it. If not, it's over. All I knew back then was hard work. You gotta work hard. You gotta work hard. I can't get this paragraph. I can't remember what the fewest paragraph to pass this test to get in the military. Read it again.

Still not getting it. Read it again. But it's not getting it, write it out. And that's how started learning. I realized if I keep going back and going back and going back until the shit just becomes your mind will say, fuck, okay. We're gonna figure it out. It'll find a way. Because he is not going to stop. It's not I'm gonna try one more time. No, long clock both of us. Well,

We're going back. I can't read right, we're going back. I gave myself no way out and my mind realized that. And it said, okay, we're gonna adapt and overcome now. That was my mindset. And that's how you get through things. You put yourself, you immerse yourself wherever it is, and you become that. I became hell, and that became my new norm. I gave myself no way out. There was nothing outside these walls of hell.

Nothing. I watched this segment on TV about these guys going to Navy SEAL training. And I couldn't even I I I wasn't a great swimmer. I was afraid of the water. All this crap, man. I saw these guys just quitting. But at the very end, it has 22 guys, this command officers up there, and he gives this great speech. So I started visualizing me being the 23rd guy, sitting there with these guys. I said, man, if I could feel that, that would change my life.

And what was that feeling you wanted so bad? Respect. No. Victory. I wanted to win. Not like beat somebody else. It wasn't about that. I I I just wanted to go the distance. Everything in my life if something got hard, I quit. I had to work harder than you. So I quit. Like, man, if I could just go that distance, that extra mile, to just go, just just to finish. I want to finish.

I want to feel victory. And victory for me wasn't winning. It was just finishing. So I said, you know what? If I could feel like these guys feel, it would change my life. And literally, I started feeling victory just by putting myself in the battle. I started realizing, man, just by going to linger with myself every day and putting these challenges and these goals and these obstacles, these insurmountable obstacles.

Now we can move from there. But if you look at it as, man, I'm broken and I'm still here. And I'm fighting, and I'm gonna find a way to get through this. 'Cause I have no other place to go. It gives you a lot of power. And no one really finds themselves without going through trials, tribulations, suffering, accountability. And accountability

Suffering. Being accountable every fing day for doing right for yourself, for the people next to you. It's miserable. The more I did this, the more I gain confidence. And then the more I gained confidence, the more I realize. These Navy SEALs, man. These guys can't do what I'm doing right now. I had no coach, had no trainer, had no money. I didn't know how to lose weight. I had no knowledge of what I was doing. I was just working. I was just sacrificing. But I would have never found these tools.

If I didn't put myself in a very uncomfortable place and your true self is found in that very uncomfortable zone, that's where he came from. He came from all these f up obstacles. And now he's there. So everybody goes, how do you do that? You know exactly how to do that.

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