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The Path of Fulfillment Is Acknowledging Emotional Pain

The Relaxed Male
Jun 06, 2024•31 min•Ep. 230
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We all experience pain at one time or another. Pain can be a physical sensation from a Papercut or it could be from an emotion. The pain that I am talking about today is emotional pain. The feeling that we get from the emotions that we don’t like. Emotions, for instance, powerlessness, frustration, fear, uncertainty, insecurity, humiliation, lost, are often viewed as painful and are often avoided.


These emotions and more similar to them are unpleasant to experience. Often when we feel these emotions, we want to hide from them. We want to buffer or indulge in some other activity than what we really need to be doing. It’s easier to avoid feeling these uncomfortable emotions. Nobody likes feeling lost or feeling anxious about something that they’ve never done before. Yet we’re always doing something new. We’re going to have to feel that anxiety if we want to get anything done.


Many people want to know how to you get past the emotional pain in their life. The answer is simple, but the work is not easy.



Life is 50% pain and 50% pleasure.


Life incorporates the 50/50 principle. 50% of our life is going to be a pleasure. It’s gonna be great. Those emotions are gonna be wonderful. We’re gonna be on top of the world. As we feel these emotions we are gonna be happy and fulfilled. The other 50% of the time we’re going to be in some form of emotional pain. A lot of people don’t like the fact that there is so much pain in their life So much so that they actually would rather try to bargain the ratio to be 80% happiness and 20% pain. Sadly that just shows how much we resist the thought of our life not going perfectly.


No matter how much you resist, you’re going to have pain. Then you add the fact that you’re using more energy to resist that pain which only amplifies the pain. Also, you’re doubling the experience because you worry about the pain. You can see how pain can be such a problem. If you don’t know how to manage that emotional pain it can become tremendous. you also see why so many people become overwhelmed simply because they resist and avoid the pain in their lives.



So how do you handle the painful portions of life?


The way you handle and manage the painful portions of your life is that you allow the pain to be experienced. That sounds scary. I get it. However when you allow the pain to be felt and you’re not resisting or avoiding it by buffering and feeling indulgent emotions. You realize that the pain that you’re avoiding is just a vibration. Granted that vibration may not feel the best but you’re not going to get swallowed by sorrow. You’re not gonna drown in self-pity. You’re just going to feel a slightly unpleasant vibration.


Handling and processing emotions is a skill as with everything else that we do in life. But more so with emotions because so many of us are in emotional childhood. We believe emotions just hit us upside the head out of nowhere. That is a falsity because our thoughts create our emotions.


The thought of how horrible the pain we might experience is the very reason why that pain is being avoided. Our worry and our fear are because of the thoughts we have about pain.


With practice, we find processing our emotions to get easier each time, we realize what we are feeling. What we are feeling is just the result of a thought.



Pain is what you make of it


As with everything that we avoid, the reason we avoid it is because of what we make that thought mean. We see sadness as nobody loves us. We see humiliation as potential death because we’re going to get thrown out of our village. We see a choice as limiting our opportunities instead of expanding the possibilities.


Everything we have happened to us, we take that personally. A sideways glance in our general direction could mean somebody is interested in us or somebody is disgusted with us. Which one is it? I don’t know nor do you know. We just make an assumption.


That sideways glance has as much power as the emotion that you’re avoiding in your life



Why do we avoid pain?


The reason we avoid pain is the very reason why we avoid stepping out in front of a bus. It’s not that we’re afraid of sudden death. We’re actually afraid that we’re going to live and have to deal with all the pain because of that bus meeting our body.


Our brain has a hard time differentiating between physical pain and emotional pain to our survival part of the brain. It’s all the same thing if we do something that will get us ridiculed back when we were living in caves that might cause us to get kicked out of the cave. We might be exiled from our village if that happened. Would we be able to gather enough resources to survive? Back in prehistoric times, social approval was needed. We had to make sure we appeased the Chief. We didn’t want to step too far out of the norms because we may be viewed incorrectly.



Pain doesn’t have to feel bad.


As mentioned before pain is just the way that we classify some emotions emotions are just vibrations. They may be vibrations. We don’t want to feel yet with a 50/50 lifestyle. We don’t have the choice. We will have thoughts that create sadness, loneliness, disempowerment, and Self-pity, and we can only experience those emotions


Then you add to the layer that emotions vary on what we make them mean. Therefore you can actually make emotional pain, not be so painful if you choose. There are times when we want to be in pain. Sorrow and grief are two instances of us wanting to be in pain when our grandmother dies. We don’t wanna be happy. You want to be sad. You want to grieve for the loss of your loved one. That is you showing love for someone who will not be in your life anymore. This is a very beautiful act that we humans are capable of doing.


Therefore, being intentional with your emotions doesn’t mean painful emotions are gonna be gone. It means that we choose to fully feel them at the time they happen. That means you can take a painful emotion and wear it as a badge of honor. You can do that all thanks to the thoughts that you have.



How do you deal with emotional pain?


So how do you deal with and process your emotions? These are emotions that are both good or bad. However, most of the time we need to just process the negative emotions the fear-based emotions, and the emotions that we avoid. So let’s look into how you do this


You start by acknowledging the emotion. he can’t tackle the problem if you don’t acknowledge that it’s there and the way you acknowledge it is by naming it what is that emotion that you’re feeling? What is that uneasy feeling in your chest, in your back, in your shoulders, across your midsection that feels like a steel clamp, what is that sensation right now? Name it happiness, sadness, uncertainty, fear, anger, regret, disempowerment, forlorning, lonely, burnout, boredom. What are you feeling as of right now?



Describe it


If you could take that emotion out of your body and hold it in your hands, what would it look like? Is it heavy or light? Is it soft or hard? Is it spiky scaly or glass-smooth? Describe that emotion and as much detail as you can, is it hot? Is it cold? As you do this examination, you’ll notice that the strength of the emotion starts to fade. This is the processing that we’re talking about.


Sadly, we often try to make problems bigger than what they really are. The problem with our emotions is the same way. We think they’re too big for us to be able to handle and thoroughly process. However, when you start processing and examining the emotions that you feel, you notice that those big scary monsters are nothing more than teddy bears under a blanket.


Now most emotions will only last about 1.5 -2 minutes. Yet there are times that you will just have a very stubborn emotion that you can just process away. may time these are bigger emotions that take time to process. These emotions require you to just experience them for the amount of time they are around. You may have to just go through a day or two with that emotion as you examine why you are feeling what you are feeling. This is where a counselor can come in handy especially when you are dealing with emotions that arise from past experiences. Coaches if you are trying to get over an obstacle you can move to the next goal you are aiming for.


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Transcript

Bryan GoodwinBryan Goodwin

We know our life is 5050. Half of its pain, half of its pleasure. How do we deal? How do we process that emotional pain when we feel it? We're gonna be talking about that that this week on episode 230 of the relaxed male. This is the relaxed male, a show that comes to you each week helping men to remove the nice guy from their life so they can actually live their life on their terms.

Join the host certified coach, Brian Goodwin, as he helps men step out of their heads and become free from the thoughts that bind them. Hey, man. Hello, and welcome to the relaxed mail. I'm your host, Brian, and I am a certified men's coach who assists men who are just neck deep in the suffering of their life, whether it's a relationship problem with their wife, their kids, their boss, rest some other family member.

We go through our day to day struggles, and we often get ourselves completely wrapped around the axle when it comes to how we process that. How do we handle these emotional roller coasters that we go on that are relationship based. And that's what we do here at the at Relax Males. We help men figure out what it is that's getting in their way. Why can they not have the relationships they want? Why can they not have the find the happiness that they're after?

And we do that each week. We take look at a specific topic. We tear it apart. We look at it. We examine it, and we learn and grow from that. So this week, we're talking about processing emotional pain because we go through that. We got a several we get several instances every day. Our life is 5050. We in the 5050 principle, half of your life

is gonna be in pain. That is half of your day. That is half of your minutes, half of your hours from time to time, from moment to moment, you're going to either be feeling pleasure or you're gonna be feeling pain. Some form of pleasure, some form of pain. Pleasure, pain. Pleasure, pain.

Sometimes it seems like you get in a whole lot of pain and then other times you're just nothing but pleasure. But it equals out to where your life is always at. Half of it's gonna be pain. Half of it's gonna be pleasure. And we avoid that pain in so many ways that it hinders us. It keeps us from having the the

complete and full rich, full life that we really wanna have. When we avoid the pain, we're blocking out half of our life. We're avoiding half of our life. We're avoiding half the experiences that we could be having simply because, oh, well, that's something I don't wanna experience. Well, tough, man. You're gonna have to experience it whether you wanted to or not. And that's what a lot of the problems that we have because we resist

that life. We resist that half of our life. And what happens when we're resisting it, we're not allowing it to happen. Alright? When you're not allowing it to happen, you're actually putting more energy into the circumstance that you're, that you could be going on about. Maybe it's, having a difficult discussion with your wife and you don't wanna you keep avoiding it. You're, like, worried about what's gonna happen. So you're adding you're compounding more pain, more suffering.

It's taking twice, if not more energy, to actually go through that process because you're worrying about it. When you worry about something, you're doubling the effort. You're going through the circumstance before you've even gone through the circumstance, And that's the big problem that you're gonna run into. You've got it takes more energy. You're were you're worrying about stuff. So that worry is going to be doubled up if not more.

And so you're making your life even harder simply because you don't wanna face the pain that you're actually supposed to face in life. Yeah. We would love to have our life just be full of joy and happiness, except for the fact that as we feel, if we were to be in a land that was nothing but nothing but joy and happiness, then eventually joy and happiness would just become the norm. It would be the your typical meh type of day. If you're worried about how how are you supposed to

feel happy all the time? You're not. That is evident with the 5050 life. You're going to have those days, that are just absolutely crap. And then you're gonna have other days that are just amazing. And the low parts of your life, those deep dark valleys and those trenches and those pits of despair that you're in, you could actually start looking at those as a, as a blessing because you're so far down that makes those peaks of, of joy and pleasure that much higher, that much grander.

You wanna have a a wonderful life, allow yourself to experience the pain and the pleasure. So what do you do? How do you simply, what do you do? Just start ignoring the fact that it's pain? Not not exactly. Not exactly. You don't just necessarily go, oh, I'm not gonna worry about this at all and turn a blind eye to it and walk away from it. Now you life, like I said, you have to you're you have to be able to process it to go through the pain that you're feeling.

A lot of guys they do. They turn a blind eye. They turn their back to the pain, and this is why they start drinking all the time because they don't wanna have to face the pain. It's easier to buffer and to do have other indulgent emotions instead of facing the the emotion that you're needing to experience that moment. The fear, the uncertainty of talking to your wife about whatever is a scary thing

because how is she gonna react? We don't know how she's gonna react. We gab that no control over that. What if she gets mad? Well, you have to be okay with the fact that she gets mad. You avoiding trying to control her emotions by not having the conversation with her means that you're not going to be growing relationship wise as you want to have. So you have to do the hard thing. You have to have the hard discussion.

And lot of times you'll actually go off and be worrying about, oh my gosh, I'm, this is gonna be so terrible. She's going to just not go for this, whatever the idea is. And she's not gonna talk to me for a couple weeks And come to find out, she comes on board with it. She's like, yeah. Yeah. This kind of sounds like a good idea.

All that pain, all that suffering was for nothing. Instead of if you had allowed the initial thought, the initial worry, the initial concern to just be there, to feel that emotion and process it and go on down the road and actually have the conversation with her, step up and do the hard thing,

the pain would be a lot shorter, wouldn't be near as bright, and would be a lot easier on you. You wouldn't have as much, as many gray hairs if you if you step back and allowed the emotions that you're fighting against to happen, because you see pain in our life, that emotional pain that we go through is what you make of it. We often avoid things like sadness.

All right. It's like, oh my, I don't wanna, I don't wanna feel sad. Well, tough. You there's times that you're gonna go through life and you're gonna feel sad. So what do you do about that? You process those painful emotions, Those those times that you really don't wanna maybe you're you have some regret that, you didn't

didn't get to spend as much time as you would love to have spent with your with your dad before he passed, and you keep shoving that regret away instead of allowing just allowing that regret to wash over you. When you process the emotions, there's several key items that happen to you. 1, you start to realize that first, the emotion is nowhere near as scary as you wanted it to be. It was just a vibration. That's all it is. An emotion can be viewed however you way you wanna view it.

If you wanna make your have a life that is as fulfilling as possible, you have to step into those painful portions of your life. Realizing that, yeah, you, you regret spending time with your dad. You regret what you said to your mom or your wife or whatever. But knowing that the thoughts you have around that circumstance

are just your thoughts. They're not your mom's thoughts. You're not your dad's thoughts. You're not your wife's thoughts or nobody else's thoughts, but your own. And that the vibrations of that emotion just don't feel good, but they're not gonna hurt you. If you're feeling sad, you're not gonna drown in sadness. You're not going to you're not going to die of of anxiety. All right. What you're gonna end up doing is you're gonna have

a unpleasant emotion. You're gonna have a vibration that doesn't feel the greatest, and that's gonna be whatever you determine is great or not great. Because you see pain is what you make of it. Pain is what you have is what your thoughts about it are going to be. You think it's gonna be terrible. It's awful. It's gonna suck. Then guess what? It's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be awful and it's gonna suck. But yet as with any type of emotion or any type of, of of event, it takes a bit of skill

to, like, process. How do you process emotions? It takes a a level of skill to be able to just first recognize that you're feeling a bad emotion, then step through that emotion, experience it, let it live its life, and go away. Now when I say live its let it live its life, a lot of people kind of wick you at, but that's like, oh my god. You it's gotta live. I've gotta live with this thing.

It's not gonna last long. It's life. When you allow an emotion to run its course, minute and a half, 2 minutes, typically. Now there are times, I will admit, that there are times that, yeah, you're gonna have an emotion that lasts all day, maybe even longer. You're gonna have some more complex emotions that come about that it takes you days to process. And the reason why it takes days to process is because you're not actually processing the emotion itself.

You're processing the thought that created that emotion. You have to figure out how do you come about turnaround and process the thought. So you have a clean, fearless emotion, but we wanna make emotions mean something. And this is what really, most of the time causes us to avoid it. We see sorrow and grief as these terrible emotions. We don't wanna feel those because we're supposed to be happy all the time.

Well, my first question is when I hear somebody say, well, I I wanna be happy all the time. Why? Why do you wanna be happy all the time? Why do you wanna go to your grandmother's funeral or funeral of a friend and be happy? Well, you know, I don't really wanna be happy at my at my grandma's funeral. No. You actually want to be sad. There are times that our pain

is actually a good thing. Being able to feel grief and sorrow for the loss of a human being is one of the most beautiful acts that we could do as a human for another human. Yet so many times, we don't wanna feel that emotion, especially when we get home. It's like, oh, well, I don't need to. I should be over it. According to who? It's gonna take you a while to process and accept the fact that your grandma is not gonna be around anymore. You're not gonna be able to go into her kitchen

and see her cooking eggs and bacon in the morning like you used to. I mean, I still miss my grandpa. She's been dead coming up on 25 years or so. 25, 30 years now. I still remember when I was young waking up, going into the kitchen, and she had bacon sitting on the counter for you to eat when you, as you wanted it. And it was there pretty much all morning. You'd walk by snag a piece of bacon and

now we'd, me and my cousins would go. It was there's a lot of greatness in that. And remembering that isn't something you should shy away from. Remembering it is great. All those wonderful times, those feel good emotions crop up when you remember the loss of a family member. How do you keep a family member alive

is by telling the stories of them. You have to tell the stories. You're it's going to hurt a little bit. It hurts a little bit to remember back when my dad, before he passed in 2010, how he used to, he would be watching a little bitty box television in the kitchen. He'd be sitting at his table and he'd be tinkering with something. And it's always something different, but he was always tinkering with something. And from time to time, you would hear a crash

of wooden blocks and and metal pins and everything else. So there'd be just this And it was it was just my dad's frustration that he was trying to get something to put to get put together, and it didn't wanna go to get them together or that or you'd hear if you go back there and you'd see him messing with something, he he would screw up his face in a weird way, and he go, well, it came discombobulated. In the way, he would well, it it it

became discombobulated. And the way it but the whole scene there brings up the fact that my dad's not around anymore, but I still love him enough that I have processed those emotions. I don't shy away from the sorrow and the and the the regrets that I have that I don't feel like I was the greatest of sons to him, or at least not the as great of a son as I now think back and believe he deserved. And a lot of guys would take that emotion, take those thoughts, take those regrets.

And instead of stepping into them and feeling them, it's easier to drown them, to numb them with alcohol, with drugs of some sort, when instead of playing small, because you don't wanna feel embarrassed or feel bad, you would rather not do anything. You would rather sit and play the law, play your life small because you messed up somewhere along the way. You didn't weren't the greatest son. Well, what would the greatest son be like? Start being that. Honor your dad in, you know, in that way.

Often, we want our pain to end instantly right then. There. All right. Fine. I am tired of this. I'm tired of feeling bad. Boom. We're done. It would be nice if it was that imp that easy, but our brain does not do that. Our brain is not about to just let something go, especially an unfinished loop. We need to have completion in one form, fashion, or another. You have to find the completion to finish a scenario, and that completion is what

the thought process is. You're thinking of the of the time, and you have to allow yourself time to process. One of the things I recommend people do is choose an activity that becomes your thinking activity. There are 2 I have 2 different instances of what types of thoughts I have when I'm doing specific things. 1, when I am unstrapping a a truck, which if you know, I'm still drive a truck from time to time, and I haul a flatbed, and so there are straps that you have to take off of the cargo

so the people can take it off. So the load doesn't just fly off the back of the of the truck as you're going down the down the road. That normally takes about 30 minutes to get unstrapped, un bungeed, pull the tarps off. If you haven't got tarps, roll the tarps up and all that. It takes 30, 45 minutes or so. I allow myself to have thoughts that considering different topics, and it can vary. Sometimes it is my my thoughts on where I'm going with the business.

Sometimes it's thoughts on where I'm going with, with a certain friendship or a with a relative. I will have very specific thoughts about that. I will allow the thoughts that can become consuming to be processed at those times. Another time is whenever I'm walking the dog. Whenever I walk my dogs, I got 2 of them. Got a Great Dane and a Sheep A Doodle, and we walk about mile 2 miles at a time. And the way and while that's going on,

that's my processing time. I that's when I get a chance to think about the thoughts, what is bothering me right now? Look, think it through why. And it thinks, I go through it time and time and time and time and time again, a couple about a year, 2 years ago. No been about a year. I had a opportunity that didn't work out.

I was out of the truck. It was exactly what I wanted. I wanted out of the truck. I got out of the truck and it lasted exactly 6 months and the money dried up and I had to get back in the truck. And during that time, I wanted to hate on myself. I wanted to avoid talking to the people that I was involved with. I wanted to just shut down and step back, but you can't. I couldn't. So I had to do the processing of the thoughts of the emotions and deal with the emotional pain that I failed

at that first attempt. And why did I fail? Because I honestly, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I didn't have the froggiest clue. I stepped into it and tried winging it and I fell on my face. It was a good lesson. I learned about life, about business, and I'm good about it. There's no hard feelings anywhere in that whole event, And that is because I've chosen to not let pain feel bad, but just let pain feel. I can feel the pain. I can feel the, the sorrow, the frustration.

I want this relaxed smell to take off so damn bad that a lot of times that pain gets strong enough to where I wanna just say, never mind. I'm not going to do this crap no more. And then my little brain goes, do you really not wanna do it? Well, no, I love doing this. I love helping men like you. I love helping men see holy smokes. Life can turn around in a heartbeat and become grand

if you allow it. And that's probably the biggest challenge that I have right now is how do I explain allowing of a of an emotion, allowing of a of a circumstance, accepting that circumstance as what it is so that you can move on. Because that's the ultimate plan. When you are when you are processing these unpleasant emotions, you are actually finding a reason and a why to allow an emotion to come do its thing,

and fade away. So how do you deal with those emotional pains? How do you handle the emotional upset upsetting aspects, the bad vibrations of emotional pain? Well, it's really it it's, as a whole, it's not hard. In practice, it's a challenge because you're gonna be in your head. And it like I said, it's a skill. You first have to notice, holy crap. I am pissed about something or holy crap. I am sad about something or I am I am angry. I'm frustrated.

Why did that? Why did I get mad at the guy who cut me off in traffic? Well, if you really sit down and think about it and you process the thoughts, you're gonna notice that because you were afraid. You were afraid you were gonna run into this person. You were afraid you were going to kill yourself,

afraid you're gonna kill the guy who pulled out in front of you. You're afraid that you were gonna damage your car and you were gonna drive around in a wrecked car for a while. There's a lot of fear in that. So, yeah, when that fear came up, all of a sudden you had no control over your life and that lack of control really pisses you off. So, yeah, you got angry, man. I know. I get angry every time I go through Dallas. It's like, goddamn. I mean, come on, man.

Can you not step on the gas just a little bit more? You've got a 4 wheeler. It takes you 0 to 60 in 10 seconds, you know, while it makes takes me 0 to 60 in 10 miles. But to to process an emotion, you first have to describe, what is it you're feeling? What is it that you're what emotion are you, experiencing right now? Is it fear, anger, uncertainty, disempowering thoughts, forewarning. You know, are you feeling a bit forewarned?

Are you lonely feeling burnt out? Maybe it you're feeling bored. Maybe the restlessness that you're feeling is the fact that you're feeling bored. Maybe that's the reason why you keep grabbing that phone and looking at your phone and looking at Facebook or any other social media pay, app instead of seeing how you can best serve your wife.

Because you're bored and you don't wanna be bored. You're afraid to be in board because you're not getting this serotonin, dopamine, and, and, and and oxytocin hits that you would if you're looking at your phone. You have to describe what that emotion is

and then act like just imagine. Play play imaginary that you've taken that emotion out of wherever it is you feel it. Where do and that's something you can also describe where on your body do you feel it? Is it on the top of your head? Is it in the front of your head and the back of the head? Is it in your neck or even your shoulders? Does it feel like it's a weight hanging on your shoulders? Does it feel like a bunch of metal band wrapped around your chest? Does it feel like a fist is in the middle of your gut?

Does it feel like it does it make your legs hurt? Where do you feel the pain that you feel that that emotion is being felt somewhere? Because an emotion is nothing more than a vibration felt throughout the body. Where's that vibration originating at? And as you look at it, you can describe it. Is it big? Is it little? Is it heavy? Is it light? Is it soft or is it hard? Is it smooth? Is it solid? Is it dense? You can start describing this. Is it fluffy? Is it scaly? Is it

hot? Is it cold? Is it warm? Is it pulsating or is it just a steady sensation? If it's vibrating as it's, if it's pulsating, what what's the frequency of the pulsating Examine it and every little minute detail you can think of. And before you know it, you're gonna be trying to examine it and you're going, well, it's

it's not really there anymore. I don't feel it that much. And that's when you've processed the emotion. And then if you'll notice, I said motions last about a minute and a half, 2 minutes tops. And when I said that, well, you all go, no. I have motions that last all day. You're right. Sometimes, you will have emotions that were gonna last you all day, last more than all day, and that's because your brain

is ruminating over that idea. Now sometimes, you're not. You I've had times where I've had emotions just sit with me. I just felt sad for the rest of the day. I just felt ashamed for the rest of the day. I just felt uneasy, full of anxiety because I know that my boss is about to yell at me. And those are times that you just have to accept the fact that, you know what, I'm gonna be walking around with, with anxiety hanging off my shoulders.

I'm going to have to just deal with the fact that I'm feeling sad for whatever reason. I am uncertain about what my future is. That is okay. I can accept that. I will just have to do my job while feeling anxious, uncertain, sad, angry, whatever. Because sometimes we get those stubborn emotions that don't wanna just quickly turn away.

They wanna hang on. And that's usually because we have a more complex thought that we need to break down. We have to find the why and believe that why, as to why we don't need to worry about that circumstance anymore. As we break it down, as we look at it and as we process it, it gets a little easier as the months go on, as you're talking and, and working it through with yourself, you'll notice that things get better.

Now, if you find that you're struggling with that, especially emotionally speaking, and you're trying to process something that happened in the past, say in your childhood or something, and you're running into problems of being able to get past whatever that, that harm was that happened to you, whatever the, if you're struggling with emotional issues that are because of the past, There's nothing wrong with going to talk to a counselor.

Counselors come in very handy when dealing with past problems. While as coaches, we come in handy when you're dealing with the emotions and you're trying to come up with a solution to a problem that you're facing that will move you forward into the future. So if you are struggling with something in the past, please reach out to your counselor. Go talk to a therapist.

Let them help you develop a set of tools so that you can get past whatever it is that you need to get past while if you're running into problems of, well, how am I supposed to get this business going? Or how am I supposed to talk to my wife? Because she's gonna get angry with me? Well, that's where we kinda sit back and we talk about it. We work it through and we come to the solutions. That's where I coach you

through that problem. And if you're wanting help on getting to the next step or wanting your relationship to become better, you wanna take it to the next step, it's time to take the next step. Taking that next step is setting up a consulting call with me. And if you want help on having a better, more filling relationship, please step up step up to relaxmail.com and hit the, the show notes, and there you will see a link that will allow you to take the next step

in whatever it is that you wanna do. And so guys with that, I wanna say thank you very much for for listening. And if, you're currently using a a one of the old legacy style podcasting apps, there are some neat features that are gonna be coming to the show here soon. There's some neat features that are gonna be coming to the show here real soon. But for those to actually work

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