Alright, hi Rick. Is that part of the notes? Yeah, it actually is. This is hi Rick on my notes. Show me. No. Okay, I have a feeling I'm not. All the construction that's happening here, is it possible for them to go louder? Is this the loudest they could possibly be? Alright, let's just go. Alright, so I need you to give a brief summary of who you are. I don't really know. Sure. A lot about you. Sure no. This is going to sound a little corny at first, and then I'll zoom in, but I'm just a guy.
Like I do this thing. Like a lot of people, a lot of people try to define themselves by what they want to project their values are. You know, like I'm a basketball player or I'm a pottery guy. But I'm just a guy that loves to laugh and is really close with his family and just, I just want to just, this is going to sound so corny. It really is. It does. I just want to love and be loved and laugh and just be married, you know. Are you married? No. I'm sorry. Do you have a girlfriend?
Yeah. What's her name? I don't reveal that. I have her name on here. Oh yeah? Yeah. Do you have a new girlfriend or is this the next girlfriend that I'm about to talk about? We've been, she's been my girlfriend since February. So this is, it's not Tori, Davido. No. I'm very sorry to bring that up. It's okay. Do you feel sad when I say her name? No. That's good. I'm not ashamed of my past.
And part of what makes me who I am is, do you know the Rascal flat song, God bless the broken road who led me straight to you? Uh-huh. Can I hear you sing it? Um, God bless. I don't know the song. I'm sorry. Do you want me to? I do. It goes, Every long long stream, led me to where you, the way your eyes are looking, it seems like you're not listening. I love listening. Do you care? No, I do care. It's just really bad when you sing. I'm not a singer.
I'm just trying to get the story across to you. Thank you. I hear it. I got it. So no more? No. Okay. All right. What about that song? Well, I, you asking me to tell you the meaning of something before the war. No, why did you bring that song up? You would know if you let me sing the song. Okay, go ahead. Every long long stream, led me to where you are. Others who broke your heart. They were like northern stars, leading you on your way. Into your loving arms. This much I know is true.
Thank God. Bless the broken road that led me straight to you. So you think that Tori De Vito was the broken road that led you straight to? I think that all of our, all of our life is, is looking at, if you look at him as winds or losses, you're trying to set and define yourself with expectations as opposed to just, this is the road. This is the road that leads us where we're supposed to be. So you're happy with your relationship? Yeah. It's pretty new. February. What does she do for work?
I, I, not revealing too many things at the moment because sometimes trolls will get in the way and like kind of, um, bury themselves into your life. So she's famous. Not necessarily. Not necessarily. Yeah. Okay. Are you rich? I mean, some people call me that. I'm, I go by Rick. Do you, I am, yeah, I've looked up your net worth. It's had $5 million. Is how accurate is that? It's spot on. Do you, is that just $5 million? Do you have in your bank account right now?
It's spread across different, different, uh, liquidable assets, stocks and investments and such. But in my bank account, I have probably four and a half million. And then I have $500,000 in Apple. I know. I was just thinking about something funny. I did the other day. Please. Um, do you have much? I don't really believe that you have that much money. Okay. Does any of it from your parents? No. At all? None. Are your parents rich?
No. Well, I defend that how you define it and like love and experiences. Are they above middle class? I think we're middle class. I grew up upper middle class and then my dad lost his job or I guess quitter, whatever it is when I was 12 and then we kind of transitioned from upper middle class to middle class. And I think we've, we've been there at least they are. Um, but now they live in, you know, they, they ride the, do you eat steak? Mm-hmm. How do you like your steak cooked? Well done.
Um, are you talking about my question? Mm-hmm. Are you complimenting my question? No, absolutely not. Oh, you eat your steak well done. Obviously. So some people like it. Some people will do like in between. Like if you don't want a medium rare, and a medium well, you could do medium rare plus. Okay. So I feel like my parents are middle class plus. Mm-hmm. Now, like not quite upper middle class. Yeah, so you have money. Am I not? I buy them things. Yeah, I buy my parents things too.
I bet you I buy my parents more things than you buy your parents. Because you're rich. I'm not. Rick. You're rich. Don't try to be funny because you're not very funny. Okay. How old are you? 22. You're not 22. 38. Why'd you lie? I'm 22. You're 38. Okay. Do you think that you've been successful so far in your career? I need you to be more specific in the question. Have you been successful in your career? Are you proud of yourself and where you're at today?
I am proud of myself and where I'm at today, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know why. How many cards do you drive? How many cards do you have? I have one. I drive five. Like other people's cars. Sometimes I'll drive their cars. You have one car. What is it? It's a personal. It's not personal. Is it outside right now? Yeah. And it's any nice cars parked outside? If you end up finding out what my car is and saying it on here, I will be very upset. So make sure you believe it, please.
Okay. So it's a ****. Will you believe that before you send it to her, please? Will you mark that? Do you have the time stamp? Because I don't think she would take that out. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Yeah. So I have to ask you, you're born in Orange County. Mm-hmm. Yes or no? No. Yes. Are you lying to me, Rick? Rick. I was born in Orange County. Yeah, you were. Oh, yes. You got me. Where were you born? I don't like admitting it, but I was born in Orange County. Born in my arms tired. That's a little.
Is that like an old reference that I don't get? Because you're 38. Do you wish you were 22 right now? I don't wish wishes. You're using a lot of like old words, old phrases that I don't. Okay, mom. Do you want kids one day? I don't. This is like, I don't talk that much about my personal life on podcasts with people who I don't yet trust. You don't trust me? No. No. Two reasons. One, you don't trust me. Every time you ask me a question, you say you don't believe it. Mm-hmm.
And two, you have an energy that is just like very confrontational. But it makes me not trust your intention. So with that, I don't quite trust you. No. You should trust me. I'll give it a go. Okay. Let's talk about something less personal. I know this structure. Okay. So according to biographyjust.com, you have lovely warm black eyes and black locks. Black locks? Mm-hmm. Your hair. Mm-hmm. Did you write that yourself? No. Did you submit that? Did I submit that I have black eyes? Mm-hmm.
Did they run out of things to talk about you? Because your resume is not very long. I don't know who they are. I don't know who they are either. So why would I judge them? Why would they write that about you? Most famous people have long biographies about all of their accomplishments. They just started talking about your eyes. I'm not a famous person. You're a little bit famous. Oh, thank you. You have an AMBD. Internet, movie, beta days? Mm-hmm. How do you get one of those?
They just give it to you. Once you get famous. Once you've worked on film or television. You've worked on film or television? Both. What'd you do? When does this come out, do you know? I say that because I don't know if what I'm working on now will still be going then, you know, but like I've done different, mostly comedies, one drama, award winning. A few awards, actually. You don't know about awards? No. Never gotten any. Really? Not even World's Best Mom? Like, somebody gave you like a badge?
Not a very good mom. I don't believe that. Not. My kids are over there at home right now crying for me while I'm here interviewing you. But you're doing this to support them, right? No. I don't get anything from this. I spent money today to be here. Don't you monetize this in some way, even with the equity of the following that you built on? What does it take to? I'm being here. What's driving you to do this? I lost $1,000 today. This was $1,000? In total. How much is this an hour?
I don't know, 250. Do you think that it may have be who've due to not be 15 minutes late then? No. I needed to pump for the kids that hate me. Good mom. How long have you been with your family? You said February. Mm-hmm. You already answered it, Bob. It's a bad question to ask. Oh, you were born in Ohio. Orange County. What I think you were born in Orange County? Because you make up your mind instead of assuming that you might be wrong. I just couldn't believe that I'd be wrong.
And I was. Mm-hmm. So I will accept that you were born in Ohio. It's embarrassing. Oh. You know, Mark Twain says being wrong isn't a problem, but knowing you're right when it just ain't so is. So it's okay to not know something, but to assume that you do. It makes people an asshole or something like that. To call me an asshole right now. Mm-hmm. It's not very nice to do. Please don't call me that. Okay. You played basketball in high school. Did you? What is this thing? What is this podcast?
What are we doing? I'm not playing basketball in high school. I told you I don't talk about my personal life. How was that personal? How was playing what I did in high school as a minor personal? You want to know what I did as a child? Yeah. Sure. Yeah, as a child, I played basketball. High school's not child. You could have been 18. I graduated high school and I was 17. No, you didn't. I did. Okay, well still you could have been 18 so that wasn't an inappropriate question.
Did you think that I played? I didn't play basketball until I turned 18 just the last few months maybe. Yeah. Could have been. You don't have to assume everything is negative. Would you believe me if I told you? I would. I would. Okay, I played as a kid. I graduated 17. Mm-hmm. I had my first kiss when I was- I wasn't asking for that I don't need to know when you had a kiss. Okay. Please don't answer questions that I didn't ask. I'm going to try something different here.
I'm feeling myself being a little defensive because of you telling me how much you don't believe me in some of the judgmental questions you were asking me and I think that that's not your fault that's on me and I was responding defensively. I'm not going to- I'm going to try to do this a little bit different for the rest of this. Okay. Thank you for that. Rick, you're making me feel a little bit sad. Are you a fan of Eleanor Roosevelt? I don't know who that is.
Okay. Do you want to apologize to me? Yeah. Okay. Are you going to? Yeah, I'm sorry that- I'm sorry that I got defensive and I'm sorry that- I don't know if I'm doing this right. I'm- I am sorry that you're- that you're being an asshole. Okay. That was really not- not an apology, Rick. I don't really know what I'm doing with this podcast and I think you- you- you seem to know that and I don't think that's very fair of you.
You could teach me how to do a podcast instead of sitting here and making fun of me and being mean to me. I'm just trying my best. You don't want to help a mom out support her kids. I actually really could appreciate that. Okay. So help me then, Rick. Do you have a podcast? Is it successful? It depends on how you define successful. I get- every week I get to get to know somebody and connect with them and make my friends. I do make money, yeah. Could you live off of the money you made?
Okay. So you have a podcast. Can you tell me what you do? Yeah. I try to not- like you're coming in and- and the- you know there's a- there's a- there's a- a dance you could have when you're asking people personal questions and bringing up things like how much money they have or their ex-girlfriends or their new girlfriends or then family and- and you kind of would want to dip your toe in.
Feel- first make sure that you make the other person a little bit more comfortable before you kind of ask those kinds of questions. Okay. And then if you don't believe them, unless you're trying to interrogate them, maybe ask more questions around it. You know what I mean? Um- Can you try it on me right now? Sure. Uh- should I like pretend like this is a- I'm pretty cured. Well so we'll sit into it. Um- would you do it that- that just helps me out? Could you sit in- Bobby, hey. Hi. You okay?
Mm-hmm. No, I'm not really okay. What's the matter? I- it was interviewing some guy from my podcast news being pretty mean to me. It sucks. It's really tough- you- I assume you didn't know him. Mm-hmm. That's sucks. How long have you been podcasting? Uh- a week now. Oh so you're new. What made you want to ask somebody that you don't know instead of maybe opening up with people that you do know a little bit? I- I already interviewed the people I know. How many people- was that? Two people.
You have two people that you know? Yes. I thought you were gonna be nice when you interviewed me, but you're making fun of me now for only knowing to be- No, I don't mean to make fun of you. I just think- I just think that you'd be surprised if you opened up like the possibility of who you know as opposed to just maybe close friends and family. I bet there's a lot of people in your life that would be interested in supporting you and helping you. No. No? Who are the two people that you know?
My friend Colleen and this girl, Tamin. How do you know Colleen? Um, we're both moms. Yeah? Is she married? Mm-hmm. Do you know where her husband? Mm-hmm. Why not? I don't know, Tamin, not him yet. See, there would be a great opportunity, like when you have your friends on and you're asking them questions about people in their life, her husband, her parents, brothers, sisters, her friends.
And to- I find that if you ask for help, you could get it a lot easier than just assuming people might do that for you. Say, hey, I'm looking for some help. I'm looking to meet new people. And that's what's fun about podcasting. It's also about meeting people. It's not just about making the- making the- um, um, um, like all the more. Money. It's about, you know, connecting with people and- and that you could use that as an opportunity to meet those people.
We'll be right back after work for more sponsors. I don't have sponsors. Do you think that the audio is going to pick up on all that? Okay. Does that help? No. Yeah, this is the- How many sponsors do you have? For her episodes, usually around two. Really nice. Yeah. I wish I had sponsors. You said you have a lot of money. Five million dollars. Do you want to sponsor me? Like do a commercial for my podcast on your podcast and then pay you for that? No. Why?
I mean, you even told me this podcast as of the time of recording doesn't even exist yet. And it's going to though. It's going to be really successful. Do you not- do you think yours will be better than mine? Honestly, I think that- I think that yours is going to do really well. I really do. Thank you. I think that, um, I think that you need a lot of grit. You need a lot of, uh, when you said that. Grit? It's just a funny word. It's funny because like, grit.
I don't know what grit means outside of saying somebody needs to have it. I don't know what power it means at all. But like I get it. Like grit means like same with elbow grease. I don't know what elbow grease means. But if you were to say you got to give it a little elbow grease, a little grit, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got to like, and then you kind of project whatever it is you think you need to do it. You know what I mean?
Like, what do you think grit means in like in this for you for podcasting? Like if you were to give it more grit, what would that look like? Hard work. You don't think I'm working hard. You're literally pumping milk while you're driving here, spending money to rent the space. I think you're working hard. But Mark Cuban often says it's not about working hard. It's about working smart. So you don't think I'm working smart? I don't know yet. What do you need to know?
I don't think that's for me to, that's not for me to know. That is. I think for you to work smart would be to use the time that you have making this stuff efficiently. And I don't know you well enough to know if that's something you're doing or not. You know, like, I know you said that you make a lot of clips. That's nice. Because then people will see those clips and be like, I really want to watch this podcast. And then they'll look it up and they'll see there is no podcast.
So I don't know if that's working the smartest. Yeah, let's try. But it's also like maybe, do you know the movie District 9? I remember when that movie came out, there were billboards and you didn't know it was a movie. It was just, it just said, it was like aliens and then in the District 9. Now, looking at it now, it's like, oh, I get that because I've seen that kind of marketing sense. That was the first time I ever saw it. I was like, what is this?
Don't you want people to know what this thing is? That was their plan. Getting people to question stuff. So it's kind of like maybe what you're doing. I'm doing. Yeah, so by the time I finally comes out, they're like, I've been waiting for this. So you might have something. Thank you. What are you drinking? Coffee. Why is it in a dinosaur cup? I didn't want to be late. So you made it at home? So I made it at home.
Had I known how late you would be, I would have probably stopped and picked up a better coffee, but I made this at home. You're judging me for pumping before I came. Yeah. I sat in two hours of traffic to be here with you today, Rick. Did you pump in the parking lot or did you pump all your driving? While I was driving, I had to pour the milk into the bag. So how would that make you late? I had to pour the milk into the bags in the parking lot. Did it take 10 minutes?
Yes. That took precisely 10 minutes. I filmed myself doing it. Show me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm saying, mm-hmm, as in right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. No. Yes. Show me. Okay. No. Yeah. I don't want to do that. I just want to know, are you an actor? Mm-hmm. I want to be an actor one day. You are. What do you mean? You're an actor. I'm not an actor. Have you seen Sister Act 2 back in the habit? No. Do you know who would be Goldberg? Yeah. She says to Lauren Hill's character, who's a singer.
She goes, girl, if you wake up and all you think about is singing, will you sing or girl? There's only one girl. I don't remember if she said girl at the beginning or at the end. And then, and that's what she was saying. And then she was like, and then Lauren Hill's character brought up something about the ice cupades because when Whippies character, Sister Mary Clarence, Van Cattier, whatever. She's like, and don't you mock the ice cupades. They were very cool.
And it's like, that's another cool thing. I like where it's like, people will judge you for the things you like. But what's cooler than doing what you love, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so if you wake up and all you could think about is acting, it's podcast. And you should be an actor girl. I like to think about, oh. I want to be the biggest podcaster in the world one day. What does that look like to you? There's a lot of money. How much? Um, millions and millions.
So just having a big podcast is less about the size of your audience and more about how much money you make, really asking. So if you could find a way to have a podcast to 100,000 people, um, but make 8 million a year versus a podcast that is to 4 million people and make 6 million a year, what would you prefer? Uh, more people less money. So right, it is more about the audience. Exactly. Great. It isn't. It is. But is that what you said? No, it is.
It. Okay. Yes. Don't look at your camera and tell them something else. I'd tell mine that they saw it. Unless you do some creative editing, they're going to see what you said. I said what I said. I said what I said. Who is that? I've heard that before. I have to. I said what I said. It feels like a Southern lawyer thing. I invented it. Okay. I said what I said. I turned that towards you. Yeah. I feel like I invited you here because I don't really want you here to be completely honest with you.
Um, I was running out of cash because I exhausted my two people and I posted. I said online. I said, can somebody help me find someone famous and no one famous entered the comments? But then I saw you. Yeah. Um, am I famous? According to the person who tagged you who I know of $300. Yeah, she tagged me and, uh, I don't. Okay. Um, and then, uh, I went to the page and I saw that you were offering $300 to people helping, which I think is, uh, is great.
It's tough booking is one of the hardest parts of podcasting. Um, I'm like, yeah, let's, let's do that. Good for you. Good for this person who tagged me. Um, I didn't know if I would end up meeting you. Yeah. Well, if there was anybody better, I would probably have gone for them. Aren't you doing, you said you actually were in town doing it. You're doing another podcast and you, and you messaged me and I didn't see it. Yeah, they're after you messaged me again.
And you said, hey, bump in this up. Is there any way in fact I'll pull it off? Are you trying to embarrass me? No, I'm just saying that I think you might be remembering it wrong. I think you might be putting your phone down right now. Like you said, uh, this is really not okay. Any chance you're near Orange County? Okay. You just didn't reply to me. I didn't see it. Um, and then bumping my last message. Mm-hmm. I saw that in a message. And then you said, hey, Los Angeles.
And you said, any chance you're available tomorrow afternoon to meet in West Hollywood? Okay, this is enough. Right. So you were asking me to do it. I just, because I saw another clip of yours where you were calling the girl out saying, I don't want you here. And it seems like that's a move of yours. It's not a move of mine. Yeah, it is. It's what you've been doing indirectly. It's from the beginning. Okay, Rick. It's you've been trying to establish high status.
And you don't do that by offering high status quality traits. You do that by actually just lowering the other persons. And what I was going to say about Eleanor Roosevelt is, nobody can make you feel inferior without your own consent. And I think that's why things have been a little rocky because you're not elevating yourself, which should be step one. But instead, you're trying to elevate the person across from you. Bring them down.
Okay. Thank you, Rick. Again, I thought today I would be interviewing you, but it feels like you're just schooling me. Oh, you keep reminding me how much you don't want me here. And I was the last option. I didn't. Okay, well, it's just I want to be honest with you today. I don't want you to. Yeah. Honesty is great, but sometimes sometimes the way we frame it could be a little bit kinder. I don't really feel like I need to work on being kind. I know. I think I'm okay the way I am. I know.
I'm perfect. You're not. Because you really mean to just a mom who just is trying to provide for her kids. You'll never understand, Rick. I don't know what the point is. You're saying that, but I often think about how I will never understand what it's like to create life and that is something that I'm envious of. I think it's incredible what women could do. I think women are. I'd have to say I don't know what the point of you saying that is. You just felt rude for no reason. Yeah, because I do.
I do. Like I said before, I do like to talk over me a lot. I feel that a lot of your intention is is belittling. So I am in a defensive place. Yeah, you should not be in a defensive place. You're being really mean to me. Mm hmm. The second time you've made me want to cry today. I hope you know you for like 40 minutes, 30 minutes. You could have known me for 40 if you weren't pumping for so fucking long. Do you want to talk about how my grandparents died?
Is that some more questions that you have brought up? No, no. It's not. Okay. Do you have any questions for me? No. How much longer do we have? 19 minutes. Well, the person just texted me, it'll be her at 1215. Oh, she and mom too? No, it's a dad. It's a dude. Not a dad, he's not dad. Do you want to talk for that time? Sure. Do anything you're doing later today? I'm going to get my hair cut. What do you want to do to it? I was thinking about taking half an inch off all around.
That's a good idea. And my cousin, it's his birthday, dinner tonight. How old does he? I just, there's some things I just don't feel like. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm going to ask you. 20s. 20s. Do miss your 20s. I don't understand. Do miss when you were 20 and you're 20s. You understand. I'm not going to, I'm 22 and it's ridiculous that I have to keep telling you. Where I'm from and how old I am. Do you think I'm going to believe you if you say that enough? No, that's why I'm psych. It doesn't matter.
I know you're 38. Okay. Do you admit it? Do you feel wiser because you're sold? 30, it's pretty big number. I feel uncomfortable insulting you. What's insulting me? You're a kid. No, calling you your age. So I'm not going to call you that anymore because I understand that's something you're probably insecure about. So you tell people you're 22. I won't talk about your age anymore. Whatever. Why are you so mean? Do you mean to your girlfriend? No. Why do you feel it need to be mean to me?
I told you, I'm in a big, I just, you know, I scheduled around this and people asked me to do podcasts and- No, who asks you, Rick? And I limit doing them because I do them so much, my own and it's exhausting and it takes a lot. But I committed to this. It was a fun thing on Instagram and like, hey, do you want to do this? I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. And then when you reach out, I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to not- sure, let's do it. Do you regret your decision? No. Why?
Because I'm learning from it. What did you learn today? I had expectations and that was my mistake. I came in thinking that this would be a fun thing and I wouldn't be judged from the beginning and- and I didn't realize that I didn't realize that this might be- I'm not judging you. Okay. I'm not saying anything mean to you. Okay. I'm just trying to understand what it's like to be a rich person living in the world and I'm- I'm still trying to do today.
That's all I want to do, I don't even know two of that for one second. You know a lot of the stuff you looked up is in true. You know that, right? No. You don't know that? No. That stuff that you find on the internet is not fact-checked. Accurate about me. Well, nothing used my age, my where I'm from, how much money I have, none of that is true. Sorry, you're not rich. Again, it's how you define it. I love my friends, I love my family, I'm happy. Do you own a house? I don't, I rent.
Oh my God, it's really embarrassing, Rick. And that's the stuff like I get you're being playful, but like that's the judgmental stuff that bleeds through you. So assume that I'm embarrassed because of what? Because I'm renting, because I can't afford to own a home. Yeah. Yeah, and that's fine. I don't feel bad about that, but that's why this is going the way it is. Okay. I don't think that's embarrassing.
Okay. I didn't say that you thought it was embarrassing, I'm proud of you, for your, I'm glad you feel good about that. Yeah. I rent my house. I do. Yeah. But I'm embarrassed of it. Like a tell. Yeah, you should be do. I should be do. You should be too. You're a lot older than I am. What are you 20? 25. Okay, I'm not going to do the H stuff again. Are you in your 40s? Yeah. Yeah, I'm in my 40s. Okay. All right, I think this probably concludes this. Thank you for coming.
Do you want me to come on your podcast, Max? Uh, no. Why not? I didn't, I don't, I don't have a good time with you. Okay, let's find, thank you again for coming. Do you want to see me? Is that what you said to your baby's daddy before you got impregnated? It's really gross. What is? Talking about sex, I'm not going to talk about that. Okay. I was really like, sort of a man, man thing to say. Thank you. You're not welcome, I think you are coming today.
I thought we weren't talking about that kind of stuff. Why do you keep doing that to me, oh my god. Geez, she keeps going, huh? All right, right, you can leave now. Have a good day. Um, could you keep it going, I'm just going to plug some of my stuff. Make sure you check out my website and check out my socials. That's it. We love you.