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The Rational Middle

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In these divided times, a number of important challenges are facing our nation. One of the largest is immigration reform. Histrionics have ruled the day and started a firestorm of debate on the issue. Rational Middle is working to change that by providing a holistic view through conversations with thought leaders, legislators, business owners, and citizens which can help us find common ground in the larger debate surrounding comprehensive reform.
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Episodes

The Case for Undocumented Students in Higher Education with Miriam Feldblum

Miriam Feldblum, Co-Founder and Executive Director of the Presidents’ Alliance on Higher Education and Immigration, joins host Loren Steffy to discuss the burden of a broken immigration system on our schools and colleges, why access to higher education is a must, and some possible state-level solutions in the face of a federal impasse.

Feb 23, 202222 minEp. 112

Narrativizing the border with Adam Isacson

Adam Isacson, Director for Defense Oversight at the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA), discusses the U.S's competing narratives of the Southern border, their real effects on how Americans perceive migrants, and how the ideal of asylum is atrophying in the process.

Feb 16, 202225 minEp. 111

Health Care Beyond the Break/Fix with Elena Marks

Elena Marks, President and CEO of the Episcopal Health Foundation, returns to the Rational Middle for a close look at America's public health care system, how it fails the undocumented, and why this hurts all of us—with an eye-opening example of "the story of dialysis" among the undocumented.

Feb 09, 202226 minEp. 110

"Who are we? Why are we together?" Inside a Non-Profit Merger with Jeremy Robbins

Jeremy Robbins, Executive Director of the American Immigration Council, joins host Gregory Kallenberg to discuss the organization's recent merger with the New American Economy—and how such synergies allow advocates to better pursue immigration's deepest questions: "Who are we? What are we doing together?"

Feb 02, 202227 minEp. 109

Inside Operation Lone Star with Denise Gilman

Denise Gilman, Director of the Immigration Clinic at UT Austin, discusses Texas's unique position in the immigration landscape and how persistent rhetorics of "immigrants as threat, fraud, danger" lead to policies such as Gov. Abbott's Operation Lone Star — a joint mission between the Texas Department of Public Safety and National Guard that arrests migrants on criminal trespassing charges.

Jan 26, 202228 minEp. 108

What's an MLP? with Keegan Warren-Clem

Keegan Warren-Clem, Director of Medical-Legal Partnerships at the People's Community Clinic in Austin TX, walks us through the human costs of America's denial of healthcare to the undocumented, what we can be doing better, and why it's a good idea to have lawyers in healthcare settings.

Jan 19, 202221 minEp. 107

The Real Economics of Immigration with David Card

Nobel prize-winning economist David Card joins host Melissa Brannan to talk labor, immigration, and how it is that outmoded economic ideas that have fallen out of favor in other areas of social life continue to find traction when it comes to immigration.

Jan 12, 202222 minEp. 106

Looking Forward by Looking Back—Team Rational Middle Roundup

Ring out the old! Ring in the new! In our last episode of 2021, Rational Middle Podcast hosts Gregory Kallenberg, Loren Steffy, Chris Lyon, and Melissa Brannan reflect on the year (almost) behind us, the year (nearly) upon us, and what it will take to remain optimistic about immigration reform.

Dec 15, 202127 minEp. 105

America's Changing Demographics with Julia Gelatt

Julia Gelatt, a Senior Policy Analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, sits down with host Chris Lyon for a conversation about the economic effects and social causes of America's demographic shifts, as well as the historic entanglement between immigration and anxieties about the make-up of the nation.

Dec 08, 202128 minEp. 104

The Intersection of the Education and Immigration Systems with Julie Sugarman

Julie Sugarman, Senior Policy Analyst for PreK-12 Education at the Migration Policy Institute’s National Center on Immigrant Integration Policy, takes us through the ins and outs of immigrant children's rights to education, the legal frameworks that enshrine these rights, and what challenges still exist.

Dec 01, 202129 minEp. 103

Breaking the Silence on Migrant Kidnappings with Joy Olson

Joy Olson, former Executive Director of the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA), returns to the Rational Middle—this time to discuss the under-represented phenomenon of migrant kidnappings: what it is, how it works, and the policies that make it worse.

Nov 24, 202122 min

The Anatomy of Extremism with Mark Potok

What is it about immigration that attracts extremist speech? What even is extremism? Mark Potok, seasoned expert on the American radical right, takes us on a tour of nativism and the roots of immigration misinformation in this wide-ranging conversation with host Loren Steffy.

Nov 17, 202129 minEp. 101

The Rational Middle Podcast turns 100!

The team sits down for an almost-teary reflection on 100 episodes of The Rational Middle Podcast: highlights, lowlights (there were none), what Gregory and Chris are upto in DC, and a few predictions about what the future of immigration reform might have in store.

Nov 10, 202133 minEp. 100

Immigration Rhetoric and the Politics of Hate with Jennifer Mercieca

Jennifer Mercieca, award-winning historian and analyst of American political rhetoric, speaks with host Loren Steffy about the rhetorical strategies demagogues use to elicit supporters' emotions, and what this means for our public sphere. You don't want to miss this eye-opening (and amygdala-freeing) episode.

Nov 03, 202122 minEp. 99

Immigration Courts 101 with Elizabeth Mendoza

What is the immigration court system, how does it work, and what makes it different from regular courts? Immigration attorney Elizabeth Mendoza sheds light on this vital topic with host Loren Steffy.

Oct 20, 202124 minEp. 97

Centering Black Immigration with Allen Orr

"Immigration is a Black issue," says Allen Orr, President of The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA). Listen in as we resume our regular podcast programming with Allen Orr and host Melissa Brannan unpacking the specificity and oft-neglected reality of Black immigrant experiences, recently brought to the fore with the Haitian crisis.

Oct 13, 202123 minEp. 96

Immigrants are (not) a burden on American healthcare with Elena Marks

Elena Marks (President and CEO of the Episcopal Health Foundation, as well as Nonresident Fellow in Health Policy at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy) and Loren Steffy discuss the common myth that immigrants burden the American healthcare system.

Sep 15, 202118 minEp. 3

Bonus Episode: Resettling Afghan Refugees with Jina Krause-Vilmar

In this bonus episode of the Rational Middle Podcast, Jina Krause-Vilmar (President and CEO of Upwardly Global, a group that works to eliminate employment barriers for immigrant and refugee professionals) sits down with host Loren Steffy to shine a light on the unique challenges facing Afghan refugees, and some of the ways that U.S. hiring practices can be more responsive to the situation.

Sep 13, 202124 minEp. 95

Having Productive Conversations About Divisive Topics with Karl Krumm

Consulting psychologist Karl Krumm kicks off our limited-series special, "Rational Middle Podcast: Mythbusting Edition," with a provocative discussion of confirmation bias and other traps to watch out for when trying to talk—productively—about contentious issues.

Sep 01, 202119 minEp. 1

The State of Immigration with Laura Goldberg and Pamela Lizette Cruz

Guests Laura Goldberg (Center for Houston's Future) and Pamela Lizette Cruz (Baker Institute's Center for the United States and Mexico) unpack the published report on the results of a workshop on U.S. immigration policy held by the two Centers, in a conversation moderated by Loren Steffy (who was a workshop participant!)

Aug 25, 202128 min

Join us for a day of Immigration Mythbusting

Hosts Gregory Kallenberg and Chris Lyon give you the rundown on today's Solutions Summit, "Immigration Mythbusting." Join us and learn all about productive ways to bust immigration myths!

Aug 18, 20213 minEp. 93

What We Talk About When We Talk About Work Visas with John Medeiros

John Medeiros, corporate immigration lawyer and Vice Chair of the Minnesota/Dakotas Chapter of AILA, sits down with host Chris Lyon to dive into the "alphabet soup" of US visa types, the problems with the current system of categorization and adjudication, and some creative ways we might begin to fix it.

Aug 11, 202136 minEp. 92

Immigration Reform Then and Now with Daniel Tichenor

Daniel Tichenor, professor of Political Science and director of the Wayne Morse Center’s Program for Democratic Governance at the University of Oregon, pops the hood on President Biden's apparent logjam on immigration reform—taking us on a tour of what such reform has looked like in decades prior in the process.

Aug 04, 202128 minEp. 91

Understanding Refuge with Jessica Goudeau

Writer and activist Jessica Goudeau sits down with host Loren Steffy to discuss her book, "After The Last Border," and the consequences, implications, and emotions of America's changing attitude towards refugees.

Jul 28, 202125 minEp. 90
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