Questlove Supreme: Dave Matthews

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So in twenty twenty three, we had Rock and Roll Hall of Fame member Dave Matthews on the Quest Love Supreme Show. This interview may actually be the genesis for how I do stuff now, you know, my sort of Prouse questionnaire level of questions. You know, we were spending the whole conversation talking about career music, and you know, I kind of texted the Team Supreme producers and said I wanted to get some random stuff for Dave, like really get to know him as a person, his quirks

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All right, let's go, Hi, David. Look, everybody's here. It's like the whole here's.

The story of a man named Questy.

Yes, it's all of us here. But it's very nice to see you. Great to see you too, sir.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme. I'm your host Quest Love. Hey guys, when can we call it the award winning Quest Love.

Supreme five years ago?

Oh?

Really, that's I like that.

That's right now, Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the illustrious, award winning Quest Love Supreme.

There you go, right, Sorry, I'm excited to be part of this.

Actually, if you're if you're really good, we might make you part of the team.

So that's that's the joy of coming. Yes, we might just steal.

You away right now.

We are with that Team Supreme members. Uh, Sugar Steve, how is life?

It's like quarantine, but you get to leave the house and do whatever the heck you want and work on all the ship you ever wanted to work on. And the first single from your record dropping this Friday from Plumb on JMI coming out Brown Doves on Friday, Quest Love.

And you sort of seen Showand's face when he learned that I have a jazz record coming.

Out, so yeah, he knows about it.

Anyway.

On Paid Bill?

Yeah, man, how's life post Tony great? I didn't win shit, Tony's were wonderful. It's whiskey Wednesday.

Who won?

Who won?

What?

All of them?

I guess and Juliet didn't win. Y'all didn't get it.

And Juliet did not win to Tony. But that's okay because we're the doors are still open.

Y'all still the ship though, thank you?

Who wand up winning? I'm just curious.

Kimberly a Kimbo won a lot of Tony's, mostly for Best Musical, et cetera, et cetera.

It was a weird thing. It's very It's called kimberly a kimbla kimberly Akimbo.

What's the part? What's the play called?

Bill?

That's why I think he's asking.

Oh, it's that's what it's called. It's called kimberly a Kimbo. I wish I could tell you something about it. I've not seen it, so I don't know. So I'm just gonna drink whiskey on Wednesdays.

There you go.

Kimberly a kimberla Laia, how are you? I know we're in the same city, and I failed to tell you I've been here for a week.

You know, I want to give you the shade friend I do.

Ladies and gentlemen, A very good friend of mine, very a very very good friend of mine is coming to visit us. On the show, I will say that our guests his namesake. He is the founding member and of one of the most powerful. Well, the way that laugh came, I hope you are the founding member of the band that's your namesake. So anyway, one of the most powerful, one of the most creative, one of the most exciting, one of the most loved popular bands in all of

Can I say?

It was extremely generous. I mean generous, but also precisely true.

I have a hilarious story.

So when we first started opening for Dave, one of our very first shows was in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and there were I guess as far as the comp ticket situation was concerned, I believe each member because it was Philadelphia and our family were coming, Like I think each family member got like each band member got eight tickets. And the thing was I didn't have anyone coming to see so I had eight tickets. But our bus, our tour bus, was kind of part where the general public could see us.

We were where like his crowd could see us.

And there were so many people there that were like desperate for tickets, like anything, any tickets I would take my kids to see Damn Matthews. So I was like, well, I got eight tickets, I'll just give it to him. So I'm in Philadelphia, in my own town. Now it's two thousand and three, so yes, we already want to Grammy.

We're you know, we're not.

You know, you guys are killing It was so exciting that you guys were were playing with us.

Well here's the thing though. Here's the thing though.

So I'm figuring, like, wow, I'm watching this dad struggle to get him and his two kids, and I'm actually go and walk up to him and give him my four tickets that he needs, and.

What's gonna happen? But I know it's going to be funny.

It was such a pie in the face moment because it was like I don't know if he just wasn't used to acts that generous or anything, but he did not trust that my tickets were legit. And I was like, well, i'm the opening act, I'm in the roots the roots, and he was like I said, on one of the opening acts, see that's my tour bus here. I'm giving you these four tickets, and it's like he took them. But it was almost like he was waiting for that proverbial amble to fall on his head. He still stood there.

I wish you could have just taken them back. It seems like a little bit of a rude response to well.

It's Philadelphia, and Philadelphia is very non trusting, especially of kind gestures, and it's end.

But it's also, you know, hometown. So you feel like.

I thought, you know what, Dave, I'm just realizing that I've had some of the most interesting career pivots courtesy of you.

M m.

Yea, Like what, No, It just hit me that I once fired an assistant at a Dave Matthews show because uh, you remember, right, yeah, she beat me in scrabble, and like, so I guess the rumor around Philadelphia is that I'm a sore loser at scrabble when I fired my assistant. But it was just she was a disrespectful way that she gloated.

So and what does Dave have to do with that?

I immediately hired her.

Wait a minute, yo, Steve, Steve, do you know how we got Dave Matthews?

Remember?

I see, remember we.

Stole Dave matt Like God, any we can, we can go on forever.

How you doing, man? What's going on?

We're on the road, except I'm home. My son just had his birthday. He turned sixteen. So that's sort of where my head is in a way because it's a kind of exciting thing for me.

Wait, you're conducting a podcast interview in the middle of your Sun sixteenth birthday?

No the day after? So no, no, I would have I think we we we scheduled this again and again but for both of us. But I wouldn't have put it on his birthday because he I mean, I know that he would have cared because he probably he wasn't. He didn't. I was available for him, but he wasn't as available for me because he's sixteen.

And then I see now, you're in debt territory, noybe.

That was a little bit expressive. I mean, he there's times that's I'm not selling him short, but but he's busy, right, so so there's times when uh uh, he's not available.

And thirteen thirteen to twenty two, I get it. I was that person too.

There so and I know that I was busy. I didn't want to abandon my mother, but there was a lot of stuff that I had to experiment with and she understood and now I think I understand. So but I you know, we're we're touring. It's the season, and so that's what I'm doing, and I'm happily here and happy to very happy to finally talk to you. I

Thank you, and I appreciate that the love is mutual. Wait, can I ask does touring at this level for you

To the next bar, skip the star first.

I have to address this because this is serious stuff. This is serious. I was on the side of the stage. We were up. It was a rainy day, I can't remember, but we were both there. We just talked backstage just quickly as you were going. But I have to say this, I'd never been on in ears with you guys. I mean I heard you guys talking to each other like that right here, you shouting the changing arrangement.

It was my head.

I was just so crazy. First of all, I will never take that much responsibility for anything spontaneously. That's terrifying to me.

Because it was you.

No.

Well, I mean, but I mean, we do say let's change this, let's do this. What about it. We go and we let things happen, but you're actually turning yeah all over.

You did something even better than that.

You were cracking jokes, and I was like, wait a minute, we can.

Actually crack jokes.

And you know, there there there was a turnaround or a shift where for us it was like the same grind.

The same.

You know, just riga morale or whatever.

And after we got done touring with you, I was like, yo, I want I want to do the same thing. Dave Matthews does the whole communication thing, and then suddenly our ability to joke with each other in one microphone while still doing like the show, the audience is getting to show that they're getting but it's also like, yo, third row, third row, far left, he just fell down, he spilled he spilt wine all over.

Ooh, y'all see that, Like that is a very sad it is. I do think that this, I have to say this. I think that being able to talk to

Which conversation earlier? Sorry you heard it, Yes.

Yeah, so so, but once once we were it was loud and you couldn't and we couldn't really communicate that that whole spontaneity that that happens, it go sort of goes away and the conversation is only in the music. And so I do think that was a I know what you mean. But then that it flipped around and then I screw you up in wherever and then watched you doing this conducting thing. I was like, wow, that's now that I know.

I live for nothing more than those serious moments, those those benefits, those really earnest quiet moments. I live for those moments because yes, in the communication bancophone, I'm gonna say the most my goal is to make them break and crack up while being forced to keep a serious face like that's me.

I love doing that.

That's my favorite thing.

Especially us, especially if there's a boring guest on the tonight show. That's when I'll really come alive. And oh and provoke them. I'll have sound effects like snoring sounds and oh.

That's of course you would take it to the next level because well, first of all, now I'm instantaneously paranoid. But that uh goes not that I've not that it's been a while since. So if you when you when you talk to Jimmy, say, you know, just just invite me on. Let me be a couch guess, even if it's to make a fool of me, I don't care.

I'll why you got an album out, so that should be like tooth sweet. Actually it's spright.

Yeah.

I was going to say, let's make sure that we have a TV show to do, but yeah, that's.

Then that's affected. That's affected this project a lot then.

Right, because we're talking about you were crazy, like it did sound sort of like the pandemic with when you.

Got without I mean you can go outside, yeah.

But you can go outside. It's like the pandemic if you lived in the woods.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, what does that basically mean that you'll just have to double up in radio promotions or just do creative things like stuff on YouTube or like what is it? What does it mean to have a new album and not be able to promote it on the media television.

Unless you do the View.

Well I will, Oh, really they're still working. What did they do you The view is still working? Yeah, they tell you before every show.

Whoop.

You'll be like, just so, y'all know we don't have writers, So don't be coming at us about what we're asking because this is all us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're spontaneous.

Yes, Oh, I didn't realize that. Well that it shows sometimes, but I haven't watched the View very often, and so any judgment I passed is unfair.

I got it, but I but I do. Yeah.

We were supposed to do some shows and they were canceled. But at this at the same time, I sometimes think this, people are still coming to the shows and and so, and you know, adding more music into it. We're not only playing the record and and so.

So.

It's you know, just I don't pay enough attention to anything.

That's what's that's a.

Good answer too, Dave Matthews band. Do they need the same machine and everybody? At this point, You're right, like people know when the music is coming out, Your people know and does it probably doesn't make a huge effect that you don't have to do ITV.

That Yeah, we're lucky, and then we'll cram a bunch of TV in when nobody cares.

You know something though, speaking of which, I'm working on a project of which your musical performances from like ninety three to about ninety six are included in this project.

And I wanted to know, especially for.

Your your your song structures, how limiting is it to do television if you only have a four minute and thirty second window, Because you know, from my experiences of being at Dave Matthew shows, like you guys cook for six to eight minutes on songs, but you know, like the solos are the best part of both.

I think that that's true. Like the best part, it is. My favorite part is when everything gets gets cracked open and then and then we can you know, be spontaneous and when the when the even vocally, when things when melodies change. But uh, I don't know, it's it is a it's a weird. It's a weird.

Uh.

Television is very stressful when you do and a half three minutes. I don't know, you know, I was worried the mix is gonna sound as bad as it might and then I'm worried, uh that I'm gonna suck, And then I'm worried it's too How can you do anything in two and a half minutes? It depends, it is right. So anytime there's an opportunity to mock myself, which is you know, I often I like that. That's what I'm

And you guys were singing yes, I do remember that.

So I got it to But I have to tell you I worked so hard on that CARDI b tune to make sure that that even though I was just goofing off on the guitar, I wanted to get every single every single of course, I didn't want to. I didn't want people to think, think what song is? I wanted very specifically we knew someone to know what it was because it is. I'm very loose about sticking to

So wait, when you did that, when you did that, that that piece with Cardi, is that your sixteen year old is your is your oldest kid.

He's my baby, he's your baby. So this is good. So what did your kids say about you doing that?

And they had he left, He thought it was pretty fun. He actually did. He even was nice enough to say, you know, it sounded it didn't sound right, but you know, he said it sounded pretty good.

All right?

Your children are they musicians?

My son plays the piano and he plays the guitar, but and he enjoys it, but he doesn't like to do it as far as I know. One time, all the kids there's a party and all the kids were playing there. There were their pianos. Some kids were better than other kids. Stay, I said, I said to him, I wish I wish you got up and played the piano, and he looked at me and he said, Dad, I will never ever do what I was like, but it was just it was kind of interesting, but it was

So you don't even expect that.

Don't even jan even oh, I'm going to play football.

I was. I was forced in the family business.

Like I would just naturally think that you know, any progeny or whatever, like you just automatically I figured, at least by ten or twelve, like he's going to sit in and sit on the high chair and start playing with you and eventually, I mean, in your mind, would you like that or is that like no, just me Carter.

And and and and.

Like Stefan, like this is our thing and our thing only or.

I don't know if I'd want my son to come and uh, I mean, I would love it if he wanted to, but it's not something that I think about. I'd love him to find he has his own musical he likes. Is a pretty wide perspective of the kind of music he enjoys, and he always surprises me. But that's what I want him to find music the way I did. I guess I came from a family there were no musicians, but my mom, you know, listened to a lot of classical music my parents did, and then

But yeah, he answered it.

Wait wait, I was like, snap, wait a minute, we're doing a podcast. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, it's.

Not you and Dave were just talking and catching up.

Wait what, oh my god, twenty eight minutes.

Yo, he wait.

Can we each have one word of the question?

What a go? Go ahead?

Okay, what was your first musical memory?

Wait a minute? Time out?

The first question we asked.

This is the level of comfort I have with Dave Matthews. I legit, I forgot I was doing a podcast. I was totally I let a half hour go by it. I didn't even start the process.

No, I was like maybe he's doing his remakes Remixing'll start from the beginning.

I'm here, so, uh, you know, if we have to start again, I'm happy.

No no again, but I will I will say this.

But the question was, what was your first musical memory.

I would like to say my first live music that I remember, Like, I think it was my first memory because I think I was sitting between my mom's knees. I was a little kid, you know, sort of, and on the back of a flat bed truck. Pete Seeger was playing the band really and I remember thinking that guy's awesome and he was so weird. He was such a weird, but he was so he had he was so friendly, and so that's my first Like I feel.

Like the country was this, Dave, because you've lived in a lot of places. Where were you when you saw.

Up upstate not upstate New York, but you know, north of New York City. So he was in Croaton quite a bit in that area. And uh, was it turn Turn Turn or I can't remember what song I don't think he was. I can't remember what songs he was playing.

Back when we scheduled this interview weeks ago, I watched about three interviews of yours, and they're pretty much they're pretty much the same format. Like they talk about, you know, your beginnings of South Africa, moving to the States, and then putting the band together. They talk about, So I'm actually gonna go back to where we were just tip five minutes ago. I'm gonna talk to you like a friend, not as a music expert.

Thank you.

So wait, no, no, no, I'm gonna ask you random things. So I totally I put my script away. All right, So this is what I want to know, and this is I'm asking you just your everyday life questions. Okay for for our listeners, I feel like you know a lot about a person based on their Starbucks order. What is your main order at Starbucks?

U uh an Americana with cream?

All right? What's that in English? Steve? Because you know that you got to translate.

From espresso espresso with water in it.

Steve is our resident Starbucks at it.

I have I have a coffee shop in Seattle that you know, everyone has the best coffee shop in the world, but this actually is the best coffee shop. And it's called Lighthouse, And well, there's a there's some there's a lot of great coffee shops here, as there are as much as there are everywhere. But this, this particular one, I call it that, and it's a small, little one, and so I hope that it doesn't piss them off

Do you what part of the world are you living in?

Now?

Are you I live in Seattle, So I'm between. I sort of live between Virginia and Seattle. But my children, because my wife studied medicine here, my children were born in Seattle.

I bored.

He just he just he just got up and left.

He always hate people talk about their children and where they're from. I just have to have to take a break. I had to take a break.

I know, I know what you mean. It's where. It's where I just did and I did it all and and I keep doing it. Where do you live in Seattle? Anyway? So my uh, we ended up being here, and we like it in Seattle a lot. And we also so.

Those are opposite towns, by the way.

That's that's some interesting duality of worlds that you got going on in Charlottesville and then Seattle.

That's right, it is true, but it's it's also funny because there's assumptions we make about both which are true, which are but which are also but are also very not true at all.

Right, right, very often they're not monoliths. They're not monoliths.

No, And maybe Charlottesville is I guess it's a wonderful place, but every place could be a little more aware of its self. Than it is. I imagine.

I bet your kids are hell around well rounded for those reasons though. That's what I was thinking too, Like they get they know all the things.

I think that I think I have nice. I think I have kind to children. That's the main. Yeah, absolutely, and I and and I also think that my children are well round enough that they they act polite and well put together when they when they when they see you quest but.

They are very excited.

I have one great story made me really proud of my kids. So my favorite musicians is Danny Barnes. He's a banjo player out of Austin. He lives up in this man. Yeah, all fuck it, I had enough. I had enough of that. My pole barn fell into my peaches.

I'm looking him up right now.

You know, it's it's so it's he's so funky.

All fuck it.

Last time we were together one hundred years ago at Sesame Street, you brought up Danny Barnes. I feel like he's a common I love you because wait, he was on Sesame Street, Bill David. Danny Barnes was not on sme streets. That would be amazing. Dave, Dave Matthews, this person he was.

On brought the Sesame Street.

Okay, great, I'm up.

I was.

I was very happy to be on Sesame Street. But anyway, my someone someone, some kid asked my kids if they knew Bob Marley, and I think they were they were asking them if they had ever heard of Bob Marley. But my kids were spoiled, and I remember my daughter said they were little, and my daughter said, I don't know Bob Marley, but we know we know Danny Barnes.

There.

All right, My next everyday question is what television show are you currently binging?

One?

So I'm I am mad that I do like that. Uh, the Last of Us thing? Okay, but and the last two episodes were my favorite, and because they were just so man, I'm just didn't finish it.

I didn't finish it, and I finished it ruthless.

I just ruthless. I'm excited, So I'm sad that I got to the end. Anyway, they were ruthless. A lot of people were like, I don't like the last two. I was like, I love them. But also I wanted to tell you, I think people should watch this funny. I think it's Australian show. I don't know if they haven't made it anymore, but it's called Mister in Between. Is anybody here that sounds familiar? Way?

Way?

Wait, what's what's what service? What is this one?

I think it's Mister in Between. I really like this show.

Oh I just meant I could be on it, you know, but sometimes you just fall onto you fall into things.

I know that there's gonna be a show that I'm watching that I have that I've forgotten. Okay, and and then there's uh uh, I just finished that.

Res Dogs. It's cool.

Reservation Dogs, Indigenous kids.

Yes dogs.

Yes, it's a really good show because.

A lot of dope indigenous shows on like on streaming right now, like they didn't include the community.

Is really cool, really, all of the non musical jobs that you've had.

It's my favorite episode of Questlove Supreme ever. It's because I just.

Want to I want to know them as a human being instead.

Of as I did. I was a bartender, which is I think, uh not unusual for musicians, but I but I worked my way up to bartending. I started off as the salad guy, and they used to call me the nacho guy because I made more nachos than salads. And then I waited tables.

I hated.

That's the worst. That's the hardest job in the world, waiting. I think it's the hardest job.

Do you have the ability to carry that train like way above your head?

I was.

I was good.

I'm good at carrying trays. But I'm also really good when i'm overwhelmed, because I'm easily overwhelmed. I'm really good at pretending that someone's not in my section until they leave.

Wait, so you got passive aggressively.

Yeah, excuse me? Uh can can Uh? We haven't been served yet. I'm sorry you're not in my section. I'm just going to but I'll let your waiter know. I didn't do but I did do it, and I will and I and I tell you that the one of the weird. I was working on the patio and there's a lot of rats in this particular underneath this mall. But I there was they used to rats with restaurants.

Okay.

I walked onto the patio where I where I was waiting, and I looked and there was this there was a group of women and they were a little bit fancy. We're not too fans because they were at our restaurant, but they were a little bit fancy, and there was a rat at their feet. So I didn't want to say, excuse me, there's a rat at your feet because that would cause mayhem. I love the way anyway, so I waited for the rat to walk away from under their table,

Now you care? Now you care?

Now I can acknowledge that the rats that if it was, I was just I was so happy it made it away. Anyway, it wasn't in my section. And then and this dude came out of the Walmart with a broom handle and a box and then just right in front of everyone, just beat this rat to death. People were like, a rat, Oh no, what a rat? And this dude just walked out just as if nothing was I just was like, people were like and I was kind of stunned too.

Know Dave Matthews. You literally, yo, guys, this might have to be my new format.

I love waits. That's one job. What's the other?

Four?

Oh?

Ship?

So I worked in a record store and and it was in South Africa, and it was.

When, oh my god, I can't believe.

Anita Baker's like smash album came out and she was wait, time out, time out, time out, tell himbout, wait, why do we get triggered?

Sorry?

Dating, it's not a game.

It's not a game.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry inside, So.

It got started like what the fuck.

This was a long time ago. Anyways, I apologize if I if I haven't been reading the paper. But anyway, she was just that album was just that was NonStop and that was what everyone was. It was and the

The Jews don't leave here. The Jews don't leave here because the Jews don't take ship from every Bobby. And I was so interesting this. I don't know why I did a weird not good.

No, that was I thought that was kind of good.

I don't know Steve Bill.

But I feel like that Polish was nailed.

That was.

I felt like b minus I was minus.

Is exactly right. But anyway, it was a fucking accent. Oh but anyway, it wasn't me. I didn't say it so then, yes, but I just thought that was so. I just thought it was interesting because then I ended up living years later. Uh, in an area or with a friend in an area that was it was like had been very much uh like sort of a Jewish area in in Johannesburg that had now become this sort of gray area, but it was still very Jewish, but it was also college kids and it was also it

It was called.

And and then what else ship That was a long it's a long story. And I drew some pictures. I did some illustrations for for magazines like uh brochures for like insurance companies for a little while. That was that's just like a small like a local like coming, you know, get your you're an illustrator, like a really like like like come and get a thermometer put in your buttthole at this start you write a cartoon of it, or yeah, you draw a little like picture. Now. I wish it

Wait, can I ask does your publicist approve of this interview?

I feel like they're here, they.

They're right there. They just.

Random dude giving you two thumbs up.

That's amazing.

Can I ask a random acting question real quick because I'm sorry, but your your favorite characters of mine was from Blenda And I'm just so curious if you're like an improv dude or yeah.

I'm just that's my first question about acting.

But I'm just curious if you're improvd to do because it seems like you'd be amazing at it.

Well, I haven't done too much of it, but I would, I'm I'm but I'm willing to learn.

Really, So what's your acting? So as far as your training, what do you what do you consider you?

Just when I was when I was bartending a bunch of a bunch of English grads who worked in bars in Charlottesville and other people that started there's two there was one called off stage theater and one uh there and there was another one that was that wasn't in random places that I've forgotten it now and they'll get mad at me when they if any of them hear this.

Result right.

I think the last thing I did with off stage theater was, uh, the band was already together. I think a couple of guys came to something I did in in the bars, Leroy and Carter. I think they came to one of them. And then now, I you know, you know, if Sandler calls me, I'll do his movie.

Say, y'all got a nice relationship.

What's your most fun Adam Sandler experience of all the movies that you've done again.

So so one time, and he'll he might not verify this because but but it's mildly x rated. But he called me up and he said, he said, hey, buddy, I got this one thing. I got this thing for you. He says, you go, you gotta read this. And it was actually for the part that I think Woody Harrelson ended up playing, so he obviously Adam got a better option. But it was when wood he played the trans woman or something in.

Manment.

Yeah, but wood he was would he was great anyway, So so he was. I think he was calling me about that. I'm not one hundred percent sure of but he said, I got that, I got this pop with you. And I said, I said, uh, I'll do anything for you said, I said you could dress. I said you could do anything. You're amazing. You could put a dress on. And I probably, you know, want to make love to you. And he goes, whoa, and he goes and he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy,

That is.

Tell us he was a jack of jail or whatever.

And I was like, no, never go inside me.

Also, that question is point on.

It is point on.

That is spot on, sand Man.

Okay, I'm sorry to be heady about this, but so everything that happened between you and Nicole Hinman was cryptic.

Yeah, I mean for the most, I mean for the most, the stumbling was. It was all pretty pretty scripted. She's pretty shot, and Keith was Keith was around quite a bit too.

Okay, tar players making a weird awkward it's.

The funny she's ever been.

That's she's but she you know what, what's interesting is is how much she adores Adam Sandler, because she said when she was first coming up, she said, she was on Saturday Night Live and she was terrified, and Adam was just the nicest man. And that's kind of it's kind of a thing that's interesting about He's like, like, you know, he says, he works as hard as anybody, but that guy is absolutely one of the nicest people in the world.

He is he is, He absolutely is.

David, I've been asked, I've been wanted to ask you this my entire life. We talked about We've talked about before. Actually you talk to the Beatles, the simplicity of melody, the simplicity of music writing, and yet when I listen to your songs, there's the time signatures are complex, the thoughts are complex, the harmonics are complex. It feels like like one thought and then a different practice.

Yeah, I've I have, I have learned nothing but.

Like, but like we've worked together for a long time, and like it's like it's a I think in your head and in my head and I guess in song Unders said, you want you want to present the most

Well, that's that's, that's, that's very kind. I do I have to say that I do. I want to say, stop there and don't fuck it up, don't change it to five, don't put it in eight for no reason and then switch it to four.

What do you do?

Why do I have to be so confusing? But then I but then sometimes I can't stop myself and then I just end up going in circles until it's too complicated, so I either throw it away or something. But I also have to say something that some There have been specific times in my life when I've said when I've come up with something that's that's weird, a weird time signature.

To trust me. They we all know quarter View.

I know you guys know, but a.

Mirror like, how do you feel about a drummer like Carter, Because essentially your philosophies are completely and utterly polite opposite, So you want to know something because also like and I respect you both in so different ways.

But it's a completely different thing, and that's fascinating to me. Here's the funny thing.

So the project I'm working on right now right.

Is it was me looking at these guys like a period between ninety four to ninety six, and it just hit me when I saw them like this is like when the second album Verse came out and I saw them. So basically, what Bill is explaining is that I have a very bare bones, straight pocket. And it wasn't until I saw you cold blooded pocket.

But it wasn't.

Until I saw the earliest performance of an unmentioned secret project I'm working on that it finally hit me. I was like, yo, now I saw this with at the Drive In. I saw this with and then when I saw this also when they morphed into Mars Volta, and now I'm seeing it with Dave Matthews. I now know where the true creative home, where what I call gospel chop jumping belongs. Carter is the perfect musical specimen of a drummer for this particular ensemble situation where it fit's

He is gospel chops, you're saying.

It's transcendent gospel shops like it's He's on a whole other level, right.

He's the honest. But that's the thing.

And but the only reason why that level of drumming would be jarring for me is if say a tribe called Quest asked for the same sort of drummer, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, then it would be different. But I now, like when I when I saw it, then I went on an instant rabbit hole and only watched pre ninety nine Dave Matthews to see them at their very beginners, and I'm like, oh shit, you guys are actually the blueprint for where black music is today as far as rhythmically and structurally.

And I don't think you guys know that.

And I don't think that's for sure that we know that.

No, I don't think we know that.

And it's just like only in Mars Volta and in the Dave Matthews band is that level of insane drumming like music to my ears where it's just.

Perfect makes all the sense.

Don't get me wrong. I mean right.

Again, I'll just sit here and I'll just lie in. That sounds good for me.

Wait, did I not make that clear.

But it was just it was kind of meant, oh, yes, I have a way to go around.

The scenic route to get to the point.

Yes, But okay, so what is your preferred method of songwriting?

So do you do it alone or do you guys get together.

Or there's been times when, like the I think sometimes the best of what we do is when we're all together in the room and and you know, I'll have I'll find an idea and and and we'll jet Like one of my favorite songs that I think we've ever ever put out called it's called Virginia in the Rain, and actually it only came out a couple of albums ago.

Is is there?

What what is your idea of musical happiness?

Like do you prefer.

Small, small, intimate jamming situations with your band or actually, when's the last time you guys played in you know, like Toads Up, Yeah, like Toads Up in the Yale Like.

But we you know, often when we play outside of the country, outside of the US, you know, we play in smaller places. It depends, you know, we do. There's you know, parts of Europe where we do better. But we're more in a weird way, we're more of a like a cult band in the rest of the world than we are definitely than we are in the States. I mean some you know.

Germany where you playing Like how many people are you playing to in for Germany?

Like two thousand or five?

You know maybe maybe I don't know, five to to five somewhere that we bounce around like Portugal. They like

How can you plan a tour in which every territory varies in size and I know that at your peak, your maximum, you guys are fully operational, like you know, thirteen fourteen.

Eighteen wheeler truck.

Maybe I would assume at seven to ten tour bus or private plane operation like But then you're saying that, like if you go to Glasgow, Scotland or something, then you might have to small scale it. So how do you route and plan that out where some places you're you can.

Play ninety thousand.

I guess we do them separate. So you know, we're gonna go to Europe in the spring, and so then we'll think of it, like what can we do And you know, Fennu designs our stages and uh and uh does our lights and has for a long time, but you know, since like the first year that we were together. But so like then he'll design a stage for for if we're in Europe and we'll be much and you know,

But if you go to Mexico City or.

Monterey or Guadalajara or whatever, then it's the audience is all Mexican people and it and it's just it's so much fun to play for a really different audience. And when we were down there, we had like a week or so, maybe a little more than that somewhere around there when we were just all rehearsing together and that was that was fun. Actually, I think a lot hopefully some new music will come out of that. I think

So, you know, I was gonna ask about that, like the band has morphed so much in the past, I don't know ten years, Like how do you where do you find the happiness and where do you find the right thing?

Yeah, and adjusting I'm gonna add that to your question, Bill, Like and adjusting to life after LeRoy's transition.

Yeah, Like how do.

You Roy was like Roy and Carter Roy is like the first person that I it's like, you know, you don't have better friends than him. He's difficult friend, but you don't, you know, And and musically he's just there's no one like him. He is so unique. And Jeff Coffin put it beautifully. One one who plays sacks with us now. But but Jeff said, what Roy had and didn't realize much of the time was he had his own voice. And that's like what every horn player dreams about.

Know, to scale down.

Okay, I'm thinking of life with Steve and Jonas back when we were in the house together.

Oh God, memories.

They Yeah, peanut butter in the fridge or outside the fridge.

Outside the fridge, outside the fridge, agreed after it's open.

Yeah, yes, always always.

Y'all probably do the same thing with ketchup and musta. Y'all lead that outside defrigerator, but you.

Lead peanut butter inside the fridge.

You opened it.

Yeah, anything that's open should go in the fridge.

That's what y'all don't read.

Label. I don't read if you're going to leave on the shelf for a couple of months, maybe, yeah, but but I you know, we go through our peanut butter. It's just it's a and and we get the you know, we get the crunchy, all natural. But I think it's the same with the other ones. It turns into it's it's impossible.

It's like spread crigerator.

By the fridge, so you have to take it out and leave it there anywhere, George.

If we're really going to ask questions this random I got, I got a few questions in my own.

So dogic it his head.

Here we go. My first random question is there's a famous piano player slash a ranger that did a lot of work on my favorite jazz label called CTI. His name is David Matthews. He's been heavily sampled as well, so of course I might know who he is. And I was just wondering if, because of the name, did you ever meet him or crossover with him, or have publishing issues with him in any way because or have you ever heard of David.

Matth And we've had some but but it's been more amusing than anything I think there was. I think once he we we ran into each other in and I do know him, but I think he may have come he had to call the I R S And say this is definitely not mine, not.

Mine, mistake, oh wow, his estimates it's got blown.

Up by day.

I think it may have been like no, no, no, no. That's the other guy that sounds sounds a little like Kermit the Frog, and he doesn't do any arrangements Okay, we had an amusing exchange in an airport. Okay, did it a buck of arranging too?

Right? Yeah, yeah, I think he's most known for his his arrangement ranging. So I have a second random question. Do you remember being at Electric Ladies studios in the late nineties must have been ninety seven, ninety eight, some ninety nine maybe and smoking a joint with D'Angelo? Yes, with two other random guys. I was one of the other random.

To forget and I didn't know about this, No, but listen it before you down. So then so now i'm you know, I'm excited first of all to be uh visiting d Angelo in the studio, but now I'm fucking so fucking high. And then that's which is fine, that's fine, And he turns on he starts playing the most insane you'll agree with me, right, I mean the music was so beautiful, was so insane. I mean, I hadn't heard any of it, so maybe you've been, you know, going

I mean maybe it took us four years to make that record.

Yes, I'm telling you it was so Then the music he played. I left, like you know, you know when you experienced something when it's so beautiful that you know you're partly inspired, and then you're also just like what am I? What am I doing? Wow? What am I doing?

I should?

I need to just go back yourself the rock where I where I you came from? And the fuck up?

Yeah, maketure raise your game is what it does when you hear music, because.

It's like you sort of see possibilities. It was Yeah, that was absolutely Remember it was so exciting. The root.

Yeah, I think it was the song of the route.

That's a good one.

The reason weren't you weren't there? This was like after this was like vocals, vocal sessions that just went on for a year. So you want to know that.

But tell me, how does Dave Matthews wind up at Electric?

Just shows up?

Well, that's that's my no, that's my actual question is what album were you working on? Because you were there for a session. Well, believe I.

Wonder because I've done a few different things.

I think you were your own. I think you were down in the b room.

Could we have been doing the Santana Uh oh yeah, yeah, he might which I've which I I have to tell you we planned that.

For a long time.

I have to say, my son, uh put on the song that I sang on that Santana record, and then I hadn't heard it a long time, and I have to say, I'm not sure what was wrong with me. I was, I was a little soft on that song. Kind of irritates me when I hear it. I'm a little soft, I'm a little like, I don't know, I'm a little airy a little bit. I mean, it's even it's like Kermit the Frog, like we really.

Tired, none of us like, oh we do ten years twenty years ago.

Ever on Santana Robbers.

My son and I was, he's been getting into some Santana and he listened to that and he goes, he goes, it's it's I said, oh, I sound terrible, and he goes. My son off, He confronted by going, it's not your best, dad, he's.

The best, he's the best.

August.

August is like, takes you right to the right, right to your heart.

Huh yeah, he said, it's not your best.

Speaking of Santana. Okay, so where did you get the idea? So the thing is is that we're doing our first stadium show, and you know, the stadium holds like seventy thousand people, but I think an accumulation of it because we're the opening act. It's the Roots, Santana and then Dave Matthew's band, and you know there there might be there might be five thousand people.

Now, I just came from an arena show last week.

I went, I went to Witness or what I call Swiftville or and no, no, no, it was something to behold, especially as an outsider.

Yeah it was.

It was something to be whole. But the thing is is that.

A lot of people who I know, a lot of kids who went down to that, you know, yeah, just friends of friends and said we're going to Pittsburgh.

So the town was so packed. I had to get a hotel in Cleveland, Ohio. Like, anywhere she goes, she's going to bring at least at least two billion dollars worth of business. So I want to science study just

So where where did you.

Get that idea from? Because that's that's you didn't have to do that. But where did you get that idea from?

Well, you know, it's probably pretty simple.

So I I had a few, you know experiences of when we were coming up. You know, we had a few experiences where where you know, the where the audience was coming for the main life, right, and and and so and that was always it was. It was quite often it was humbling, and sometimes it was sometimes things turned out well.

I mean we had a great time.

We opened up for the Dead one time in Vegas, and and and everyone had warned us that the dead audience is not into the opening act man. And then the funniest thing is they loved us, which maybe says something about us. They were all they were all dancing and spinning around, they having a blast. But but it wasn't always like that. And I but I remember one specific time it was I think Carter and I went to I think we were actually playing between this uh

Like fuck you, you fucking suck fuck And it was like.

They would have taken a break anyway. They were so furious and they didn't start.

They were relentless.

And then I kept like, it's I could I could barely. I mean, that's all I hear. And then I kept turning around to Carter because he's, you know, he's a he's a great drummer, but he's also quite often my therapist.

It was the same.

It was selfish, all right, So second I can check it.

You just reminded me of one of the most hilarious moments opening for you. Okay, so we did Philadelphia with you first, then we did aforementioned giant in New York where you know I had to fire oh yeah, and then and then okay, so we get to Boston, right, and now we're kind of feeling ourselves like, Okay, this is not intimidating. We got this, you know, because even we were you know, we just started going to the next level. So this is all very new to us.

That we saw.

You guys have him right, So I'm realizing that we can play do background vocals and crack jokes and you know, so we're in our zone. And then the whole audience was like saying like and you know, by the time we got the song three, I was like.

Yo, we are killing shit. Yo.

I was like, Yo, dude, fucking Dave Matthews Mike kick us off the tour for kicking his ass so much. We we are fucking killing in the right I said, Yo, we're fucking killing shit, y'all. Let's keep it up. And the monitor guy was like, actually, guys, they're saying Yankee suck, Yankee suck. And I was like, wait, what, what what are you talking about. He's like, uh, he has a Yankees cap.

On and we.

From Philly anyway.

But that's the thing too, Trek is not he's not a sports guy. He was just matching his outfit and no, and like, but this was also in two thousand and four, where oh yeahousand and four, we're Boston ass right, So oh my god.

We thought that's a pretty good that's a pretty good story that.

We thought he was killing it.

And then and then and then suddenly the audience was like, yes.

Now throw it, now throw it.

No he did literally, and then Trek was like, yo, I'm sorry, y'all. I was just color coordinating my outfit, like I didn't meant any fence, and he threw it, and they just, you know.

Quick music questions as we on this, because Amir always talks about Dave Matthews band and the Dead and BC Boys kind of being his blueprint as far as the structure of what they did and shows and stuff. Dave, when you were creating your band, was there other bands that you looked at in that way, like from a business structure or from just touring anything new you were.

Like, this is what we're aiming towards.

I was. I have to say that I was going pretty blindly, and it was really you know, I was really excited about playing in a band, you know, and I was really excited about Leroy and Carter and Stefan.

You know, so you're telling me that your your college presence was based on filling in for other acts, because that's how.

We came up.

And it wasn't it was eventually it wasn't that. I mean, it was like but I mean we went from like sometimes being accepted because somebody in a college liked us, to like sort of like colleges where we'd go to places we'd never played before and everyone to be singing our and we didn't have any music out and everyone to.

Be singing along. It got really it.

We got this little cult thing in the in the in the universities that was kind of crazy, you know. I remember we went up to we we had this nightmare where we drove over these snowy mountains. We were supposed to go around the mountains because it was the middle of winter in Maine and it, but we didn't. Nobody they sent us the wrong instructions and we went over the top and it was a nightmare. We we would slid down a mountain in a van with a trailer,

We never amount what year was the sea change for you, like what year was the year in which and how attimidating was it to like wait a minute, What do you mean we could play stadiums now like.

I mean, I remember getting to the one of the guys who worked with us, one of our A and R guys, when we played before we had put out an album or anything, but we were going to put out an album and we were playing like Irving Plaza, I think, and it was packed and the and the head of our record company said how much money did we have to pay to get all these people here? And you know, so much. It was so disconnected sort of the record industry where we were was just that

Yeah, it seems like it's a small amount of groups in this world that have existed that have a following in common like you, Like I was just talking to I have a high school girlfriend. As long as y'all have been out her and another girlfriend have been following you guys, and they've done like up the coast. They started at the top and they've gone down. These are black girls, which is also kind of really dope too because they say they see each other at Dave Matthew show.

Really literally physically follow you. Yeah, it's really really Four.

Of my staff members are like true Dave heads and shouts.

To kandas Bobo and sing of parents.

They wanted me to say their names in this episode.

I question, in the thirty years of touring and whatever, what's the best thing you've seen from the stage that you say on the microphone back to Carter just laughed from the band, what's the best thing?

All I can think about is uh is is teddy?

It is?

You know, and it was you know, there's definitely definitely jazz Fest. It seems like jazz Fest.

There's Yes, you think I will say something that's funny that if you just if you just look a little further, like because usually it's on someone's shoulders.

Yes, So I think it's funny when the person that's carrying the person that has the titties doesn't know.

That that are out.

And may not know, but when they sometimes when they find out, there's a sort of like suddenly there's people and then everyone's excited and that. But so that there's there's a there's a different there's different nuance, there's it's an it's it can be a nuanced situation where there's different emotional there's different input, there's different excitement and different perspectives.

Not just based on alcohol content too anything.

Not as any boobs nowadays, as you know, they're back, different boobs I have.

I have a non titty question, if that's all right. So with regards to what we were discussing with touring, and you mentioned the Grateful Dead and you mentioned you played you opened up for them once so at the time, and I'm not sure if we're around the same age

Yeah, I think we definitely felt like some I definitely remember feeling like some some of that was happening, But then you know that was I also think about like Fish were you know, Peers and and and and they

Right?

No, it was it was It was kind of amazing to see these people who's who had like there there whatever, how wherever they were in their adult lives, had really been wrapped around around that culture. Sure, And I don't think anyone will ever replace that or take over. And we may have certainly gotten some of that or been, you know, in some ways similar to what they represent and at times maybe more effective in in our spontaneity than others, but I don't think. I don't think that ever.

You know, when the but when the Beatles broke up, there were people running around saying, what are we gonna do?

Oh wait, let me let me ask Like for you, though, is a jam ban a four letter word to you?

Because I don't, I don't.

You know, you guys are way more advanced than I'll say, at least eighty percent of that circuit. I mean, there's some cats now, like Snirky Puppy that's kicking ass, but.

They're kicking ass and then you.

Know they're not but they're not right, they're not.

But it's interesting though, because that's that's scripted. I think it's where we didn't decide. You don't decide where you go, where you get put, you know, in some ways, and so I don't feel like that. I never, uh, I felt like we belonged to that I always thought that was a somewhat it was just a term convenient, you know, sort of odd, uh, you know, and that we got an audience and and we get to play for them, and it and I you know, in a weird way,

You know, Yeah, if someone seas in jam band, it's usually in a disparaging way, like a critic.

Jam.

Well, the thing was we try.

To avoid it because I saw some of the bands catching flack for it. But then you know, for us, I feel like, especially in the state of black music, the band is dying, the group is dying, the level of musicianship is dying. So we're now we have this like vigorous, like purpose to literally carry the history of like a hundred years of black music on our.

Backs in our show.

So we gotta do break beats, and we got to do hip hop, and we gotta do jazz.

And we got like so I think our thing is a little different.

And also in this place where I just I've learned not to manage people's expectations anymore. So you know if you notice, like I, well, I don't know if you know, it's not being at roots shows. But I purposely stopped doing drum solos like maybe in two thousand and seven because I didn't want to get pegged as a jam band. So it's like, oh, I'll stop doing drum solos. But

That's something that a carpate board made up.

So that's why I wanted to know if jam band was a four letter word.

So I get where you're coming from with that too, because but mainly as as a dismissive thing. Because the funny part is that, you know, when I first heard Carter, he was playing in a band called Secrets, and its like this most insane fusion band and a bunch of different you know, Tim had played with them, and I think Roy may have sat in with them a few times.

There's I mean, they.

Were crazy, an insane band. Everybody was better than the other guy, you know, and I used to watch them and then Roy. I mean he played anything, but I'd see him, he'd be playing jazz and and and beautiful. Just you know, the first one of the first times I ever saw Roy, I just could I couldn't even believe that that this this gem lived in this town I'd.

Moved to to be closer to my mom.

You know. I was like, oh my god, this guy's insane, and and and and and Stefan was like this he came suggested to us. So the backgrounds of where everyone came from was not from like it wasn't because everyone was listening to the Dead, so we didn't have that connection to that that idea, right, And I had one. I had one Dead album. It was acoustic record. And every time I start describing it Dead fans go, oh, you had that record, so but uh and I loved it, but I you know, but uh, it was it was

The acoustic Yeah. At it was front a radio city music hall.

Steve, you're a deadhead.

I'm dead head adjacent. All my friends, my friends in in college were Deadheads. So they dragged me to a bunch of shows, and you know, but as you guys are talking, I mean there's there's there's obviously crossover between a band like The Grateful Dead and Dave Matthews Band, even though there's no direct influences necessarily, and then there's there's crossover in the audience between the Roots and the

You know, well, I think if anything, we've learned a shape sift, so you know, we we've safe shifted to any band that we open for.

So it's just like live, I love it. Thank you ever meet Jerry that one time you opened up for him? Did you meet him? I did not.

We had this, We have this habit and we did it with a lot of the bands that we opened up for. Is we would just stay out of the way. And I don't know what it is, just like we're going to open up, Like if we're going to open up for the Stones, just go to your dressing room. We shut the fuck up and and then and then the weird thing is that a lot of the time then you do meet them, so you know, you get to meet Bob or you get to. But I didn't meet Jerry that time.

You know, see you've never done a dead End Company or Phil Lesson Friends or none of that.

I haven't, you know, maybe I have not.

That's one final question. Yes, Dave, your your band has covered a lot of tunes. Peter gabriel A, Bob Dylan. What's the song you Yeah, that's sledgehammer, God damn sledgehammer slamming. It always has been whatever Jesus Christ, Dave, like, what's what's what? What's the song you wish you wrote? What's the one song you wish that you sledgehammer?

But but it's so outside, you know, I mean, that's a that's a that's a that's an insane that's a perfect song. You know, it's like the whole I don't know it's it's perfect, It's it's impossible. There's a lot of songs I wish I wrote, and and but I you.

Know, what's your favorite Beatles song?

That's that's an impossible thing to say.

But uh, well you answer the Starbucks question, you know, Whi's your favorite drink? You can answer this, but like.

So quickly too, he do, like, well, I know that if I pull over in Starbucks exactly what I can have. It's gonna right, I know what it's you know, but I mean my mood will change. Hay, bull dog is pretty.

That's some o. There you go, man, that's start at work. There you go, nice, Hay.

Before I close, I I want to test out my rapid fire random ten, which I think I'm gonna lean more into that for future episodes.

All right, Dave, I'm really slow at this.

No, no, no, no, just rapid fire. Say what's on your mind?

All right?

What what is your secret talent that we don't know?

I think I'm a pretty good I made. Maybe I could have been an artist in a different life, straight tar, Yeah, it might have been a painter. Maybe if I.

Wait, do you do paint in your spare time?

Yeah, I'm all right.

I'm a collector of artwork, so I'll be coming for you.

Okay.

Anyway, text call or facetiming.

Text and face times. No one calls anyone. That's a shitty question. No one calls anyone who calls people over forty call? Yeah, my wife calls me and I always look at it expecting her face to turn up. But then I always FaceTime her and then she has me in the cup holder or wherever, because.

Some people think it's rude to FaceTime cold. You supposed to text or something first?

Oh yeah, I hate that. I hate the bell.

Yeah I text. I generally text.

It's pizza Knight, you're ordering?

What do you order? Oh?

This is pressure.

Fresh or a lot of meat?

Wow?

So wait, yeah that's it cuzin Jake fresh beds or lots of meat either way.

I mean, wait, ther you gotta ask him if you're in Philadelphia, is it a cheese steak or is it a chicken cheese steak?

I don't want to. I gotta tell you. I don't want to cross. I always want you have to tell me?

Where do this?

Is how I answer that question? Where should I get?

Oh?

No, no no.

From now on, I'm sending every comrade of mine j L just shut up like uters. Yes, I give them jail Jupiter's YouTube page and he will lead them to the best steaks.

All right?

How many? How many?

And I got five more left and then I'll let you go. Dave, how many the unread texts are in your.

Phone that that I have not read that someone else has sent me? I well, I suppose that's the only ones there be right right now.

There are three hundred and thirty five in my phone.

None.

I'm gonna text Dave Matthews and blow this sh it up.

I don't always respond, but I always check, all right, so you least check, but you don't respond.

But you're not an email person.

Like a million a million about you know.

Under it, Dave, you be careful of the read receipts, the red receipts. Okay, be careful of that since you're not answering them. You know, people can see when you're looking at the text message.

You can hide it. You can hide it now, I don't care.

Oh little thing that does this.

No, we get a message and says he read it.

He just right exactly. I know there.

But there's a there's a there's a switch button on your iPhone that can take that off.

I immediately did that because.

Everyone's like, I know you read it, because it as you read it, and so I was like, nope, I'm not.

I don't trust that ship.

Sometimes sometimes I if it's like a holiday or it's my birthday, I'll just paste like thanks love you, and yeah, oh god, yes, thanks love you love you. Thanks. I mean, but it's like that sometimes you just have to take it.

You have like Happy Father's Day, Thanks, love you, thanks.

Quality one back at you all right?

Four more?

What's your ice cream flavor?

I love ice cream. There's a great place, Molly Moon's here in Seattle that I love. But this's I love all. I love ice cream. But I gotta tell you there was this my most emotional response. There's uh, and it's you know, I wish it was organic, but it's ice it's ice cream. I wish it was healthy. It's ice cream. Is uh black raspberry chocolate ice cream from.

It's a it's a specific grocery.

Raspberry with chocolate chips. No, no, no, no, that's cherry not but.

It's it's black. I think it's black chocolate. It's just it's not there's no lumps or chunks. Oh, it's a.

Great connoisseur of the ice cream. So that's that's that's different.

It's from a grow it's it's like it's made by but I can't remember the chain. But I was really into it, and then I was like, I can't just that's the only time I've had a.

Really did you have your own flavor, no of the ben.

And Jerry's never naked like fish. It didn't make ry. I think we had Jerry, Jerry gar.

That's Jerry Garcia is good. I do the fish food is good to.

Fish food is a game change.

I gotta try it.

I don't know what's next.

Yeah, I'm sorry, we're making your questions long.

Okay, Uh, what time do you wake up? And what are the first three things you do when you wake up? That's habitual every day?

You are very good at this.

Okay.

So when I'm at home, I like to wake up early and take my boy to school, although that's going to end soon because he's compared. But I like the process of getting up with him. But when I'm on the road, I don't have to do that. So and then I like, if I get up before my wife, then I don't do this. But if I do get up after her, I like to make the bed and always the first thing.

I do is uh.

Is is make myself coffee. I like to make my wife coffee, but I don't always know how she likes it because we're always changing. But I like, I just like that's the first thing I don't want to I don't want to do anything else.

That's what I want to do. That's what I do.

First on the road, I I uh, coffee and then exercise. But at home, coffee and then think, wish I should be going to exercise. That's what I think. Like I've been busy, but but it's been three I've been home for a few days, and every day I say, tomorrow I'm going to exercise, and then I don't.

Yeah, I got a trick for that.

All you got to do is put your workout clothes on in the beginning of day when you wake up, and it'll.

Be almost do I look. I look at I look at them, and then I go, yeah, but I'm going to put those other ones on and I'll put the work on later. I don't know that I put on my and my work got clothes involved, just so you know, also involved, like the the compression knee things, which is good, and so I put the compression knee things on. Sometimes I'll put the compression knee things on and my whole workout outfit, which is pretty amazing. And then I don't work out sometimes because you're.

Tired from putting on all that compression ship.

That's it.

Will tire you out.

Yeah, yeah, okay. If the universe grants you a five year extension to prolong your favorite age.

You.

This shit, like, what is happening?

No, no, I'm just I threw the script away and I'm just having the common my friend. The universe allows you to live five years age in your favorite age? What age would it be?

And why?

This is what's coming to my mind, and so I have to say it, but I would. I was going to say fifty six, which is what I am. But i'm because I'm feeling pretty good. But though an age that struck me was fifty, I didn't think when I turned fifty that i'd be that I would notice something. But I noticed something that I wish I noticed when I was thirty, which is I I didn't stop giving a fuck, but I stopped giving a fuck about ship that I shouldn't give too much of a fuck about.

Oh, teach me great one.

Oh, because I was managing people's expectations.

Yeah, I stopped.

I was like, if you know, did I do something wrong? I didn't think wrong. I'm trying. I want to be I want to be present, I want to be helpful. I want to be that but but I but you know, I I stopped caring. Playing music start to be easier because I was I felt like people would rather see me stick my tongue out and have a good time than when I'm playing on stage. Then they would want to see me wondering whether I am doing my job.

Well, okay, all right.

Second to last, is it existential?

Is the grass greener on the other side?

I like that. Wasn't there a book in the seventies that was that was called The Grass is Always Greener over the Septic Tank?

Yes, Timothy Leary.

O Timothy Leary Really, no, really, I mean I made it up. I made it up. I was totally about that. Sound right, not at all, not at all, Like there's a rat at dinner. I don't know what's happening. But we did actually have a septic problem when I was a kid in New York and uh out on the front lawn. We didn't realize, but then the septic tank blew up. We had to have it, you know, draink whatever you do. You had that new one put in

They're poop tomatoes.

Yeah, they were. They went through us and then they when they grew in the yard.

Wait, that's such a thing.

Yeah. I think if you poop tomatoes seeds and you you turn the soil no, and then you turn the soil no. Day with us, there's a My brother said, I'm not eating those tomatoes because I don't. I don't not eating those poop tomatoes. That's disgusting. Did he see tomatoes is gone?

This might be my favorite interview.

Like there's weird things that happened, like fig, Like is it a fig? The fig is the fig that in order for a fig to be no, in order no fig to be to turn into a fruit to be furl, it has a wasp has to have maybe have been to another the opposite sex and then get stuck in the flour and then the wasp gets absorbed into the fig. So when you eat aig, there's been a wasp that was absorbed. It's no longer there. There's not like a wing in there. But I'm just there's gross things out there, it is.

And badly they use coffee made from shit, right, so.

National theographic Dave matt All right, what's your last one?

Here?

Go ahead, Dave Matthews. How many push ups can you do?

Go? I think I could do thirty?

No?

Really, yeah, that's that's impressives.

That's impressive.

Really joke, go ahead, go ahead.

I'm not going to do it right now.

No, no, no, no, I.

Mean I thought she was going to ask the other question. Dave yay or nay micro dos.

Yes, Dave the a I knew he was with us, of course and sometimes.

Macroads macroadis.

Dave, did you just not do a great interview on Howard Stern where we talked about how you wrote, uh, the title track to your last album on mushrooms.

Oh, certainly was fantastic.

Certainly some of it because it was it was I mean that was I mean, it was for my good fortune.

There there there are there are.

Around sometimes and mushrooms and uh and that pandemic.

Mm hmmmlict it's the mushroom seems like a good time, I mean, why not? What the fuck?

Oh my god, dog, this is def mean like doing the show with it with an old friend.

Because I hardly asked.

I hope your publicist and your label ain't mad that we didn't talk more about song structure and sorry, the records great, Yes, sorry, we don't need you know.

Thank you man, I appreciate it. I really enjoyed talking. And this is what I want to talk about. What we talked about exactly.

Well, that was beautiful.

Hopefully we'll have you back on some more joy.

And I'm as nice as hang out with you all. And I'll tell you I mean your question. It's I'm always happy to see you.

Thank you, sir.

And I love you your music, and I think you're unbelievable and I and I love the work you're doing. And I you know that I love Mutical how much that film meant to me, and you know, or that series. It's just like I can't tell you exqueeze it, but I just made me so happy. Like it's like I love looking for the truth that's in our history and and and I just and and you did it so eloquently and uh shared with everyone. I think is just magic. And so thanks for having me.

Stop smiling like you because she she's smiling because he knows that you're doing good. No, I love, I love the compliment.

He wasn't all you know, he wasn't always able to take the flowers. So he's doing real good.

He's still cutting you off slightly, but he's this is really good, this is progress.

I gotta go because I have another interview to do. Ladies and gentlemen.

Really awesome.

They can be half on, behalf of Unpaid Bill and Sugar Steve and like the great Dave Matthews, we will see you next time on Quest Love Supreme.

Thank you.

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