QLS Classic: Chris Rock

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Chris Rock is on the show. And I don't want to waste a second or in any of whose else has been on this show? Any other celebrities or my no, you're not the first. I'm the We have the revolution. Who has this been on the show? Without Prince? Though? Right with that? Without Okay, you gotta say that, motherfucker. You can't just well yeah, I mean, you know, Relution, that would have been amazing if we had him on

the show. That would have been something part of the revolution or is it Prince and the revolution and the revolution is a separate entity. So he was never in the revolution? Okay, except in the movie Purple Rain, then it was the kid in the Revolution? Okay, yes, please, welcome to the Revolution. Exactly? Does that say that? No, nos has done the show. Chef Gordon has done the show. Ray Parker Jr. Has done the show. Rudolph's done this shower,

Q Tip Salons. Yea, yeah, okay, so yeah we we we yes in this very room, in that very seed well and I'm on every week and and Sugar Steve is on every week. All right? Um? Yeah, because you are so opinionated, really unsolicited, you saved you. I don't want to waste a second about any part of your life. So I wait, I just recently I didn't know you were born in South Carolina. Yeah. I was born in a little town called Andrews. Andrews right next to Georgetown.

When you drive in, it says the home of Chubby Checker. Uh so Chubby's not even from Philly. No, Chubby Checkers from andrew South Carolina. And one of my goals in life is before my mother dies, is to get them to change that sign to home with Chris Rock. You know you can make that happen, right, I mean it hasn't happened yet. I mean you can great work or

good work. I haven't made the twist. So you're saying that it would be tacky if you were too solicit solicit them and ask them to I mean, you would think by now they should I should I call the township and be like, yo, y'all should really put Christmas? You would think, I mean, I don't know, I haven't you know what you have to do when you know. But when you go on tour, we are you able to play a place in Mattown. I'm able to play Charleston. So yeah, it's like fifty miles away. Yeah, but is

that really okay? Have you given back to that hometown? I mean, hey, I bought my mother's house. You gotta do something there, like and then you know, the mayor claiming Chris Rock Day and you're jokingly like, hey, you know, be funny if you when you drive in it's my name, right. I think you know what You're right, you can that's easy. I'll even even I'll even DJ the a couple of basketball rims exactly Chris Rock parts. So how long did

you were just technically born there? And I was just technically born there and then literally like the next weekend, my parents came back to Brooklyn. There you go, that is so New York. Everybody originates in Carolina. Yeah. I think my mother just wanted her first child around her

parents pretty much, so she was just visiting South Carolina. Yeah, I mean my parents, both of my parents are from South Carolina, both from South Carolina, but they lived in Brooklyn when I was you know, my whole I was born. I was raised in Brooklyn. So what was assuming that you? Yeah, you were born in early sixties, right, I'm born in sixty five. When I was born, Dr King was alive, you know. Yes, I'm fifty one years old. Yeah. Still, money is the best lotion in the world. You ever

go to like watch rock and roll everyone. I was like the rock and Roll of Fame one year. I think I was putting in the Peppers or somebody. Anyway, Smokey Robinson wasn't inducting the Miracle. So this is a group he was in. He was in the group. He looked, he looked. It was like he was inducting his parents, like his grandparents. It was unbelievable, like, oh, yeah, Smokey wrote the song its smoky Smokey. Yeah, I feel like

you a lot more shiny. So I didn't know if it was like a moisture I was using that anyway. I picked up on it that night and Rod Stewart looks better than the guys in the faces, Like whoa use actual moistrategy? Yeah, I mean I don't. I don't know what the other commodores look like, but I don't think as good as I'm gonna bet o good. So wait,

we're in Brooklyn. Uh, we're okay at Uh. Until I was seven, we from time I was born to seven, we're in Crown Heights, and then from seven to you know whatever, twenty until god till I had my kids. Until thirty something, I was in a bed sty. You don't strike me as Brooklyn because whenever I think of Brooklyn, especially like when I first started coming to New York, like Brooklyn, every person had like the same intonation, like yo, what happened like every day was up here? Yo? What's

that good? Like I've never seen you in camouflage, you know, one leg were rolled up and no, no, I'm not that cat. I'm there. I'm Marcy. I'm I'm Marcia. Is not too far to Kada Howard and Saratoga, right, you know bre voids where we played ball and you know, so why is it that assuming that your parents you know that ship? I was that guy I was corny as a motherfucker's I couldn't get much cornier than me. Uh So, why did you have to go to school? Because that was what was going on back then, That's

what That's what progressive parents did, that's what. So the education it was busting. Busting was a thing. So I went to school out at this place called Garrison Beach with poor white people. And where I was to school, you know, it's it's seventy two, so I was a second grade. Seventy one is first. So yeah, I got off of bus and I saw niggas go home signs in Brooklyn literal in Brooklyn. Everybody. You know, I got called nigger every day and I had teachers say ship

to me and whatever. I don't even I was the only black boy and there were three black girls, and we were the first black kids at that school. Like hey, I mean, I was fucking nerdy, motherfucker. So you know, I was bullied pretty bad. But if I don't went to a black school, I probably got bullied to wish what was your nerdy? Look? I was just a little you know, it's not even that your nerdy, it's just

when you're a kid when you're a boy. Especially, your size determines so much ship, you know what I mean, Like how fast? How tall are you? How fast are you? How far can you throw a ball? Like, like your physicality just determines where you're gonna be. So my physical I was so tiny, motherfucker. So I just determined that I was never going to be a cool kid. Like the only way I was going to be a cool kid, I would have to be batshit crazy, you know what

I mean? And I wasn't batshit crazy. The only little cool kids were batshit crazy. So you didn't fall on t V. Oh maybe you can play ball? And I was. I mean I played everything, but I wasn't great at nothing, you know what I mean? So I ended up like that guy. I was that guy, which it's cool. How many years did you go there to? Uh? I mean I dropped out of school in the tenth grade. I believe my d You went to the same school I went to. I mean we're just talking about grade school.

Then I went to junior high, but I mean at that same school in Vincent. I went to different you know, so grade schools PS two seventy seven. Then you go to Marine Park Junior High. Then I went to James Madison for a year and a half, went to Boys High for a half a year, went to a black school for a minute, and then that, and you were just like, well, you get to a point where you're like, Okay, I'm in a shitty school, I have shitty grades. Is this diploma worth any more than a G E D? No?

Why am I wasting by time? So what do you do? I quit school, got a g D. Like okay, yeah, Like two months later, it was just like what the what am I doing? Um? And you know, working dumb jobs? You know stock boy, Uh, I worked with mentally handicap adults, uh at like halfway houses like these houses that well that sometimes they're in the house in jail or whatever.

So you're kind of like, you know, like you go to the mall and you see somebody like people taking artistic adults to a movie or whatever, Like I was one of those people. You were a white two or a white outfits yeah not or not, you know, just wrangling how is that for you? Like did you have? But you're a nice campaign and it was cool. I was cool. I was cool. It's a good job. It's a job, you know, my family. I'm from a working family. Like rocks work, Rocks have jobs, and rocks have decent jobs.

So like doing that was one of those jobs, like one of those rare jobs, always hiring because no one who you know, it takes a special motherfucker to clean ship off a grown man. Always hiring and does not pay minimum wage, you can, like, I mean back then, I probably made like seven or eight hour, remember just three, so you're nine hour. He's a bad motherfucker, you know what I mean. Like it, And everybody in my family always figured out, like what shitty job that doesn't pay

minimum wage? That you know? So my mother worked there. My aun't worked there, like what my mother she talked them mentally handicapped for a while for a lot, you know, in between pregnancies. And my father drove a truck for the New York Daily News and Wrangle Brewery. Uh, my father was this guy when I was a kid. You know, they didn't have any black guys in the unions. So my father was like always like the first guy they

would bring into the union. My father's like the Jackie Robinson and that ship not because he was like this great driver, which he was in no accidents, but they knew he could take it. They knew he could like get all day and get like a bag of piss thrown at him, and like, nigga, what do you what what we're talking the seventies, We're talking sixties and seventies. H We weren't legally free, legally until okay, So when you change a law, the ship doesn't really go into

effect the next day. You don't be like, hey, hey, Apple changed the fucking chargers. Still motherfucker's four years later with the old ass chargers. Still motherfucker's at iPods right now? You know the fucking you know, you take the Triboro Bridge to the airport, it hasn't been the Triboro Bridge in almost twenty thirty years. It's the fucking rf cabrig Like that's how long it takes ship to get implemented

from the time it's past. So just because it was illegal to do certain ship to black people doesn't mean that ship people literally haven't been like relax free. So like you like you could like generally assume you're gonna go someplace today and no one's gonna right like spit at you or say some fucked up shipped to you. It still happens, Okay. So if you're preparing for life, for like blue collar livelihood, Yeah, where in the world is comedy coming? Like what I mean? I grew up

in a weird block. Everybody was funny on my block, Decayed Street in Brooklyn. I don't know, It's just a weird, weird block. Everybody was hysterical. My uncle's were hysterical too. I just I don't know. I just gravitated to comedy. I love music more, but I wasn't that good. So I wasn't like a gifted rapper. I was a pretty decent dj um because I was from that era. Like we all everybody on my block, we would go see Flash and we would like basically do whatever Flash did

the next day. So wait, you would go venture because I've never heard of other boroughs like going to places where they didn't like. Was that a risk? Yeah? But who do you think they robbed? It wasn't Robin Bronks Niggers. They was robbed Brooklyn and Queen's mind. But if you're coming, if you're coming from if you're not from around, that was dangerous, I guess, but you didn't care. They go Flash, so it was worth that. I'm sorry they talking about live in the YouTube where I could just look at

it in my bed. You don't understand that Flash theotore DJ Flowers. These were superheroes and it was this was just literally going to see the Hulk or Iron Man. They were doing fucking super human feats. Okay, okay, this was like what this ship spoke to us. This was the fucking north Star, motherfucker. Okay at the beginning of the hip hop with gangster tapes and fucking busy be fucking battles and all that ship. Nigger, So you didn't mean you just how did how did that trickle to you?

Because we just had cousins that have the tapes and this guy's on the block or whatever, and you are you hearing at No, not really my white school, but when I got to a black school, yeah, it was you. That's just was in the air. I always hung around guys older than me too. That was a weird thing about me. So my crew was like all five years older than me. Yes, I can't even go where they

go a cruise. You couldn't really go. I mean it wasn't like, you know, one of my secrets of show business is I've mastered the art of like just blending in a room with motherfucker's and not making a sound and just let it. Motherfucker. This like the art of having people be at ease around you. So when you're around powerful motherfucker's and they just like, oh, he's okay, Okay, you won't he doesn't rock the boat, like, yeah he was here. Forgot he was here. Like I'm oh, I'm

the master of that ship. But I'm just saying I started at a young age, and it's like skill that eventually got better. So I could be around Eddie Murphy, or I could be around Prince, or I could be I could be around I know how to be around motherfucker's without rocking the boat. But I mean, how did you avoid the traffickings of gang activity because you were a prime target to be I don't know. I mean, I guess I wasn't a gang for a minute. I remember, remember, no, no,

I remember, like like a bullshit, bullshit. I mean, you got realized we lived in fucking brownstones near the projects. Okay, so we're those guys you looking at your beautiful house. Yeah, I mean we had you know, I lived in a Brownstone. So here's the fuck up thing. When my dad died in my dad died in nine Okay, so we my dad died, we were in debt, we lost the house. Whatever. The house was probably worth forty grand and that same house is like a million dollars now, So yeah, it's crazy.

It's crazy if we had any money, if we could have just held out for fucking five years, you and the rest of the black people in major cities. But uh, what was the question. We're avoiding the trappings of gang, you know, if it's avoiding, I mean, it was just wide. Where was my follow up? So yeah, I was in a gang. I walked through the gauntlet and got beat up and whatever, and you're in the gang, right, But my follow up wasn't you know, I wasn't a gang

follow up guy, like a gang's like anything else. You gotta follow up, You gotta be at the meeting, read the pamphlet, you gotta you gotta watch all the episodes, whatever, whatever. The follow up wasn't there. My follow up was comedy. My follow up was music. That was my follow up, like you never went back after the beat down? Else I was I was just wasn't with the follow up. I wasn't with the you know, it's like, Oh, we're gonna go downtown, We're gonna go downtown Brooklyn, snatch chains, Sam.

I'm late to that meeting. I'm not fast enough to be running these motherfucker's. So at what point did you just option? I don't when people get into this, I don't know. I'm just not. I refused to be one of these Uh, comedy saved my life. Yeah, I refused to be one of these fucking black guys. If it wasn't for comedy, i'd be deader in jail. Unt was one of the comedy I work for UPS. Motherfucker. That's what. Okay, you least knowledge that comedy did change the comedy? Yes,

giving me. Hey, it's twelve o'clock on a fucking Wednesday and I'm talking shit with you. That's rich. You know, I don't, I don't have a boss. Whatever. You know. That's rich but comedy. But but here's the thing. I got two kids, I'm divorced, I live in an Okay, I live in a great place. Guess what if I worked at UPS, I probably have two kids. I'd probably be the moss my house wouldn't be this nice, but I mean that it would be something I thought was nice.

You know what I mean I'd have I'd pretty much have the same record collection. You know. I'd be probably a little cheaper on what I download and whatever. I wouldn't you know, I'd be more conscious of that for an album or whatever, but I'd still have a ton of music and have a ton of comedy. So the President United States, but you know this been doing. We're joined by the one only Chris Rock and we're talking about being satisfied in life and comedy not saving this

is not He's not going to make this an unsung movement. Yeah, and then comedy came. You know, UPS is always hiring. So if you have always hiring, I mean, and you know I got a bad girl now, I had a bad motherfucker if I was the Doups. She is maybe not name right now, pronounce the last name right now, Magdalen. The fact that you had to look up to the right corner and think about I want to get it right, is that like some part is that a country and

I'm she's Nigerian. Get out that I know evil. That's like you're well, you know they're trying. Yeah I would, but i'd have one. It's always a fine chick at Banana Republic. So so I mean, at what point did you go from like, at what point did you go from being the funny guy to like, oh, I'm gonna go to catch It was catch a rising start like the gold back then, or was it just like I didn't I was like, Okay, I've told this story before, but i'll tell it to you. I don't know the

story online. Yes, I was literally online at Radio's City. It was February eleventh, nineteen eighty four, eight five, I forget eight four, and I was on line to get tickets for Eddie Murphy at Radio City. This is you know, people forget there was a world before ticket you know whatever. People used to stand online blocks. Yeah, purporting tour, Victory tour,

same thing. Um. Anyway, so I'm I'm on block four, like Eddie Murphy tickets were ridiculous, and I'm just sitting there reading the paper because I'm assuming i gotta whatever a four hour wait wait easily. And while I'm reading the paper, because I was that nerdy motherfucker, I saw add for comedy clubs and it's one said catch right at the Star, and I was like, okay, let me go there. And I walked from Radio City to Catch

I don't know, forty blocks or whatever the Fox. No, I never got the tickets, and uh, they were having audition night, so so I went from one line to another. So I went there and say that with thirty one to be comedians outside, today's audition night. So first I went to Comic Strip. It wasn't audition. I went to Catch, which is around a quarter and it was audition night. So I asked some guy, like what do you do?

So well, guy comes out, We pick a number at six o'clock and then you come back around ten o'clock or whatever, and you get to do five minutes if you're one of the seven. So you come back at eight, right, And I got lucky number seven, and I came back called my boy Hammy and keV and me him, me, Kevin and Darren. I believe. And I auditioned that night. And I've never been in a comedy club. You free stout eventually freestop because I've never been in a comedy club.

So I'm in this club. They sat us like in the back of the side and I watched it. I was literally watching my first non famous comedians. So this first time I've seen like a comedian not on it Tonight Show. Just like I'm like, wow, there's a lot of comedians there. So I watched these guys for about two hours and then you know, to three hours, and like late in the night, it was my turn, and I went up and I did. I would say it was three minutes and I killed yeah, and the guy

told me I passed the audition. This guy named Mike Egan told me I passed the audition. Was like the creative director of Catcherizing Star and I've been doing it ever since. If he didn't tell me, he said, you passed audition. You can work here any night you want. If he doesn't say that to me, I probably don't go back. It's probably like this thing I did. It was fun. Yeah, it was probably a one off, but

him telling you, uh, just some dumb jokes. I remember I had one stupid joke Miles Davis is so black lighting the bugs follow him in the daytime. That was like, that was one of the joke alive. I thought you said when your home name was Hammy, Is that Hamm came from Yeah, Hammy, Hammy might be ten years older than me, but he's like this, like the old guy on the block. He would give you work like he owned the Brownstone, his parents dad, he had to Brownstone.

He'd have me and my boy Darren like, Okay, you're gonna strip the wood, you know, underpay us to do fucking horrible jobs. And uh but he always had like comedy albums and ship like he was like that guy. He was like the black guy that had a rush album. It's like playing really influential. Yeah, there's a lot of drugs, a lot of drugs around, a lot of a lot of music, a lot of DJs on my block, a lot of I want to be comics but really want

to be DJ. Who famous was in your proximity Maybe you didn't know at the time, Like was Lee Little Thomas across the street or no, you know lived right around the corner. We used to play football against um what's my man jam on it? Uh? Nucleus Nucleus Yeah, yeah, yeah, Cosmo Cosmo d Cosmo D lived literally I was on the cad of Cosmo deals on Bainbridge. Uh my first you know, I went you know before I dropped out, I was in a black school for a minute, right,

boys and girls High. Fresh Gordon, you know, Fresh Fresh Gordon was in there. Fresh Gordon, who allegedly, you know he made oh yeah, but allegedly he made the beat for Larry Love. Of course allegedly he did, because it's the same guy damn beat. And I refused to believe that. Gavin Christopher, he like it's his production. He and I argue about this on Facebook. I'm like, there's no way. And allegedly he did a couple of those Herbie love Bug beats for Salt and Pepper. Allegedly. No, I believe

that Fresh Gordon made Especie. Yeah, so he was there. There was a group called the Dynamite Too, made a record call Can't Stop Till I reached the top, and um, what the fund is that other record? I forget the other. I used to like load crates for them and carry crates for them. They played the Roxy a couple of times. Uh. Freddie B and the Mighty Mike Masters. Oh you know Freddy B the Mighty Mike Masters. Yeah, like right across the street. One of my oldest friends. Literally, I lived

at six nine Team Freddie be lived at six ten. Okay, so Freddie being a mighty Mike Masses in their Dwayne Pearl Washington's in my homeroom class, one of the greatest college basketball players of all time. Uh just died. Uh Prince markt D's around there. Uh a lot of cats, man, Like you know, lots of lots. I'm trying to say, who am I forgetting? Uh? I don't know. I mean, but I hung out too. I mean, you know, I went to the Fever a little bit. I was at

the Latin Quo. I'm a big Latin quarter guy. Yeah, That's where I was going to go. So I was. I was in the Latin Quarter. No interviews complete without Latin Quarters Quarter fun house. Uh, what the fun is the one on fifty seventh Street. No, not Bentley's, Bentley's or some other shop. Oh my god, Bentley's Nigga. Bentley's was the ultimate R and B spot of all time? Did you have to dress R and B where they like? It was like it was like one of those places

that's like funck hip hop. It was like fuck hip hop. This is Lelo Thomasville. This is because all the bad girls are a bit Ley's. You know, fine girl like Eddie Murphy hug out at Bentley's Eddie Murphy, Rick James, like after they left Studio fifty they go to Bitley's still a thing in the eighties. No, not really, but it was openly open. It was like technically open. Sometimes I'm trying to think the Red Parrot was the one on seven Street, which is part but Red Parrot was

like the cross between Bentley's and the Latin Quarter. So it was like it was R and B and like a Paradise garage. Guy like no, no, no, that was too gay for me. That was like, I mean, I was young, like you know when you're young. It was not that I was homophobic. I was just like, what is that? What is that? What is that? I see? Yeah, you're just like okay, you guys. Plus I hated the

house music There's a Bad Girl. But the girls, my god, the girls that were at the Paralyzed Garage were just ridiculous. So I was a big figuring out when a club let out and being outside was let out and kind of act like you was, We're going to the thing, We're gonna get some pancakes and so and so like like he was there all that. Man. I hate the fact that in two thousand seventeen, I'm finally understanding with parking lot pimpen I let out, big parking lot, pimp,

parking lot. Wait were you driving back? You know I had a Toyota Corolla. Uh my father had a seventies six uh light blue El Dorado. Occasionally then I would steal from him occasionally. You know, it wasn't that, you know, I wasn't you know, once crack came out, motherfucker's was driving Benzes and ship you were just done. But for a minute there, any car worked. Having a car in New York, they seemed like a privilege. I don't know. I mean when I was a black kid, I was

never getting a cab. So and you know, the train was like, you know, it was before Julietta. Ship was crazy. So you know that ship. Plus I was just weird. I wanted to go to all the ship. I wasn't getting high, so I got out a lot like my boys would. You know, every Friday, everybody come from their shitty job or whatever the fuck, and we would talk about going and somewhere, and of course no one would ever make it anywhere. Because they've been based in cocaine.

But I thought she meant weed. I'm sorry, he said hi. I was like, oh no, So you get off work, it's like anybody, Yeah, we're gonna go to the city. We're gonna go to the Deuce and you know, and six becomes okay, we're gonna leave at seven, and seven becomes nine and nine and then okay, we're gonna smoke for just a little while. Basically, you know whatever, we became coke, which became crack. So that role you played in New Jack City was not I I didn't think

you did. I wanna say you did. I was just meaning that it was you didn't have to go and find do some research. No, no, no, no, no. Everybody I was with was, you know, doing something. So because I didn't really you know, I drank and I had a high tolerance, so weird. I had a much higher tolerance than I do now because my father drove for Wrangel Brewery. So like one of his first jobs before the Daily knew, so you know, was a lot of giving here, drink this, drink this. When I was a kid,

I would go to his job. This is how there wasn't even a thing called drunk driving. Back then, it was just acceptable. So they had they just had a water fountain and a beer fountain that looked exactly like the water fowla what the brewery like dream. It was like it was like Homer and I don't even drink, yeah,

like and they lift you up. And I remember my uncle, my uncle John was kind of alcoholic, and I just remember being cars with him going to South Carolina, him drinking the whole way, never never thinking twice about it, never feeling in danger at all. Sometimes we would have to this is a story, uh like whenever like like uh, like my grandfather died, or about old uncle died. This happens. It still happens today. So an old black person dies a guy, and what happens is you the good part

of the family. Your job is to go get the guns before the bad part of the family comes. It's the Carolina trip. Sometimes sometimes it's so it's like everyone, he's like, oh, ship, granddaddy died. We gotta get down here and get them before Junior and Ronald get there, before your bad cousins get there. We gotta get these guns and throw them away. We can't let the guns get into the wrong hands. Yeah, that's real though. Side note,

do you know no one here has done that? No, Steve, I mean sometimes the toy Jackson with Michael you didn't hear the story. God, okay, so did you have a porn get all the porn out of his house? Apparently? Steve is my porn guy. By the way, if I died, for if you die, would clear my Google search bar.

Steve Steven knows where all the bodies are hidden. Um apparently, so when Michael Jackson passed and every family member is running to uh see her Sini in l A, she ran right to his apartment where the blackest apartment where I mean he had a condo and somewhere in Beverly Hills and knew where the stash of five million dollars cash was inside the wall, like Mike had a just in case it. But that's some real ship. Like I don't know any black person, do you have a just

in case some ship happens? Nike makes me want to Uh, I just don't believe in it because it just makes people like want to rob you the world between having you know, work done at your house. That's I don't believe in safe you know, safe, just make somebody want to come back and rob, like, tie you up. I just know I know motherfucker's that have been tied up and beat the funk down, Like where is it? Where is that? I know? Yeah, I definitely know a couple

of cats have been tied up and shipped themselves. Oh ship do we know? Celebrity cats almost and just like motherfucker just had you know, to say, ten thousand dollars worth of jewelry and a safe. But it's a safe, so everybody thinks there's so much ship in there. So you're like you put a rolex in there, and you're like, put your rolex in your drawer. Do not get us safe for your fucking rolex. Somebody is gonna break in your house and they're gonna think you have a lot more.

All right, tell me a legendary Latin Quarter story, because wait, did you ever perform at the Latin Quarter? No? Never performed at the I mean, what do I have? It's so weird. It's like when I see Latifa kidn't play or light or like a lot have you have when he was alive, like a bunch of it. It's like we went to a high school together because we all know each other from the quarter. It's like a ton of us, you know, all the guys from x clan, like just a bunch of motherfucker's that just we all

went to this fucking same club. I remember, I don't know what's a good story, just being again, I just

had this weird ability to blend in with motherfucker's. So I remember coming outside the quarter and Eric be playing me the beat from Follow the Leader just at this, sitting at Eric B's truck with a bunch of other young cats, just like and Eric be explaining to you what the fucking records is going to be, and you're so into the ship you knew you and Rob's gonna say this, and he's gonna say, like he that ship.

I remember being outside. It's weird, just being outside the thing and Chuck playing the beat from uh Welcome to the Terror Dome. Wh Yeah, and just hearing that ship this in a truck, like just him opening up the back and playing that ship. I remember being in the Quarter when Rebel without a Pause came out, okay, and and watching Mellie mell get piste the funk off every time you heard that ship because he thought Chuck was taking his ship and that motherfucker would walk to the

DJ booth and skipped the record. But who's gonna test them? That old on that motherfuckers like this, This is the real deal. Nellie mel and Scorpio. The motherfucker's always ran together, right, The brothers, I don't know, they're like, you know, it's like like Bobby and Ralph Tresbant, always hiding together. It's like Mellie Mellon Scorpio. I remember, I remember being in a car. I remember again, I just had this weird billy. Do you remember I'm outside the hip hop story. I'm

outside the the rock the Bells tour. Okay, so l L is at the garden and I'm just like I might have been, and I'm gonna get you sucker, Like I'm like, I'm so I'm outside the garden, you know, saying one rib, trying to get in the garden. How do I get it? Like, you know, everybody thought they knew somebody right anyway, Mike Tyson gets me in, right, Mike, hey, you you you know Eddie whatever, I'm in the garden.

Me and Mike Tyson like right, like whether you figure out the year, me and Mike Tyson and Naomi Campbell on top of chairs. The other thing too, is I always looked like you think I look young for my age. Now I looked so back then. Yeah, when I was twenty, I twelve. So it was it was like, hey, I let the kid head. It was a big that was a big part of it. So I remember, I remember Scott le Roc had just died, so watching Carrass wont to do his first show at the Garden, like literally

the week Scott Larroc died. Uh it, yes, yes, yes, yes, watching Public Enemy for the first time, like unfurrel, What the funk this is? They're on early, like like you know, doing the first album? You know? Uh what then is it? You know? Yo bone Rush? The show you know is a ton like that show, but they had the hot Jam at the time, so they do rubble without a pause. So it's me Mike and Naomi like that ship LL

watching l L come out the radio. But um so we went to a party later and Naomi gave uh Scorpio her number while she's with Mike Tyson she was hanging and then okay, you know, you know Scorpio, Hey White Lines was out, motherfucker. It wasn't it wasn't dead, you know, I mean, like you know what I mean, like Grandmaster Flash furious that ship wasn't dead. That's Mike. Mike Tyson not gonna out, Mike, That's fucking Mike. This

is before ears in jail, you know. Anyway, So he was a cool person because I always hear people like hanging out with Mike Tyson. But Mike Tyson is the best guy to hang out. Yeah. I used to love hanging out with Mike Tyson. Uh, Mike Tyson is very vulnerable too, like very I remember, I'm digressing, but I remember the last time I hung out with him. We're both in Okay, I'll get we're both in Jersey. How we're in Jersey, I don't know. We're like some house

party or some ship. How the funk we're there, I don't know. Anyway, We're at the blackest party in the world. Okay, she is black in Jersey. Right, it's SIMI adult life rock kind of famous, right, Yeah, I'm anyway, So we're there. Me and Mike Tyson are kind of drunk, and we're both kind of like fun. We both called ourselves ugly and We're like, Uh, if we weren't rich, we could never get these girls. We're like, we're just depressed. But the funny thing that happened at night, it was it's

the blackest party in the world. Keyshawn Johnson's there, a bunch of Jets and walks Bill Belichick, who's not even the coach of the Jets. The Bill Belichick walks into the blackest party in the test, looks at key Shot and maybe one other Jet and goes come on, gets them and gets like you nigga is going to bed. We got a game that's a record scratch. Belichicks in here. He was when he was like a coordinator. He's not even a head coach anyway. Naomi Campbell gave her number

two scorpio. Mike Tyson realizes this, and this is there's a slow boil cut to me Mike Tyson and Naomi Campbell in a car going up Madison Avenue and Mike Tyson kicking Naomi Campbell out of a moving car. I don't even understand this. Use the original what's his foot with at his actual thing on his foot? I'm just like, yeah, I was back in the day, go back. I've seen a lot, so let's go back to let's go so comedy saved your life and was come on kid, stop

saying you guys. All right, So this quest during Chris Rockin's I guess this weekend, we're talking about kicking benches out of the car. The baddest motherfucker of all time. Oh my god. Anyway, I remember after I did like Bring the Pain or something, I'm in l A. I'm at whatever fly Hotel and I see Nailmi Campbells. She's like Chris, Chris. I was like, finally I'm going to get this pussy whatever. I'm all over the play with some hosted MTV A. Well, it's like like back when

I was Drake, like like I was that. Yeah. I was like, yeah, what's up? And she's like, do you have Eddie's number? I can't get this. She saw you when you come up. She was like, no, I know he really yeah, yeah, we both saw each other on to come up. So there you go. All right, you never got it. Speaking of Eddie, speaking of the Black Pack, I mean, I mean, I know there's a myth of the Black Pack is like l a wrap, It's just Dray.

It's just Dray and it's just Stray. Every this is Dray and iced tea and everything else, everything else has a Dray tentacle alight. It was like, literally, who's Dray and so Eddie Murphy. So the black pack is Eddie Murphy. Every literally him, how dost him? I met Eddie at the Comic Strip in New York. I was there one night. I wasn't even on the schedule. I was just like hanging out watching comedians. I was gonna stack chairs later,

like just earned my way on the stage. And he came in and it was really Eddie Murphy was not Dr Doolo Murphy. It's like leather suit Like people don't realize Eddie Murphy used to wear leather suits like just on a tooth. Like this motherfucker was eldest or some ship. This ship was like he was like thor he was like Iron Man and mother fucking we used to walk around with boots and fucking leather suits or or zebra

skins like crazy. Like anyway, so he comes in. You know I was walking, you know, you look outside just like five pushes and he's got the real entourage and he's got the baddest girl you ever seed and you're like, god damn it, he's got shades on in the fucking inside. And they didn't have any black comics on that night, and he asked the owner of the club, like are the black guys where? It's like, oh, we have them right here. That literally it's literally how it went out.

And um I went on. You know, I guess I'd been doing it maybe three years at that point something like that, and I killed. I ripped it and like, are you planning or you just free st that? Like whatever? It's like, what do you plan? Like I plan a DJ gig? Like you really weird. I saw you this weekend. You de I was like, oh, ship, this is all planned out. You got to plant it? Um did I plan? I didn't plan on meeting Eddie Murphy that night? I mean I planned on working on the set in front

of five people. Are you planning one day? Like Richard Pryor might walk in and I want to be on my best or but even then, like do you want to kill in front of them? Like what if you're like a threat? Like save some guy that you see now is like red hot at eighteen? Are you saying to yourself like are you looking at Michael Jay like might be a threat or oh I can help him out. I'm twenty years older than Michael Jay, So I mean we're always going to appeal to different people and put away.

If if I thought like a guy like Michael Jay wasn't on the path to success, yes, I would try to help. Say hey, I did it with Leslie Jones, Like hey, Lauren, you should look at this person I've done in a J B school. I got his job over there. You're the reason we have two black women, thank you, you know. I mean, it's a bunch of there's a bunch of people far too many to fucking you know, and he's done the same. I feel like

you and him genuinely want to help. But like, Okay, there's a certain MC I won't name that I know will associate himself with someone with lesser swag. It might have a little street credibility going on that has less lesser swag, But he will never stand to someone that's a real threat to him and outsign him. But he'll choose, like he's very choosy on who he picks to endorse and take their cool from, because you know, it ups

his street credit. But won't really co sign or get in the ring with someone that could really I mean post white, unless a person is a celebrity. Young cats are young cats, and I don't know. I try to help him, to try to you know, Eddie was cool to me. Keenan was cool to me. Uh. You know, there was a bunch of guys that would talk to me when they didn't have to talk to me. So I try to you know, if somebody asked me a question,

Trevor Noah calls me or Michael or whatever. You know, I try to drop knowledge as far as peers, I mean, like Dave. I love Dave, and I mean, technically, are you do you consider ten years older than Dave? So what's what's the generation? And comedians you have to be ten years? I don't know what it is. I mean, on paper, we should probably hate each other because we're you know, p funking Earth went in fire. We're always gonna be you know what I mean. Uh, Eddie and

Prior weren't boys. Richard and Prior weren't boys. Uh. I don't know. I've made a conscious decision that I'm gonna love Dave. They did. I'm nice together, but they weren't. They weren't boys. You know, I don't I don't want to speak too much out of whatever, but they weren't boys. Okay. I was never in Eddie's houses, so Richard, you know, eating chicken or no chef, you know what I mean. And I was like, you know, I mean, I never saw them hang out it stuff on a movie set,

you know what I mean. They acknowledge each other, and you know what I mean, Like this, don't you know they're not at a fight together and none of that ship they're not. They acknowledged each other. And Richard was older than Eddie, so does that ship. But you know, I love Dave. I mean, Dave is, for my money, the best in the world. Really. It's like the guy that like, I'm like, sometimes I see him and I gotta wrap my mind around what the funk he just did.

I'm like, God, damn it, how do you do that ship? Yeah? So I don't know, I don't know. I don't. I'm it's too much fun when you play with people, you know what I mean, It's too much fun to have like it's lonely being good, you know what I mean. So if you see somebody else good it's you know, what I mean is it is it even harder to be friends with someone that's not as good, that doesn't know it yet. I don't do bad talent. I don't I don't know. I don't hang out with untalented people.

I don't fuck intalented people I don't like. Because I sit next to untalented people I don't like. I always think, uh, you know, you know, shitty artistry is sexually transmitted, So I don't funk with that ship. Dave said, none of the things said that you're a critic, So it's like I'm tough. He's tough too, Uh, but you're I mean, what makes you comfortable enough? I mean, I respect the fact that you will just like a worth. I mean some guys that I think aren't that good, but I

like their work ethic. And then there's some guys. There's some guys I think are great. I'm not gonna say names. I think are hysterical and hate their work ethic, and they piss me off. It's like, oh, this smellfucker's wasting ridiculous talent. Oh my boy, Okay, you know I'm going off. There's a few of them. Oh I wish I was as funny as this guy or this guy. Oh you're talking about comedy just in comedy. Yeah yeah, it's like

like I ain't the funniest comedian. Uh. You know, there's some funny motherfucker's that just don't work on their ship that don't you know, how does that happen? Treat it specially because sometimes there's still some person that's doing an o J joke that's like you know, yeah, I mean sometimes it's happen. You see it in sports sometimes that when the game comes too easy to you. So when the game comes too easy to you, it's hard to like,

it's hard to be Lebron. It's hard to be physically better than everybody and practice more, you know what I mean, that's fucking hard. Well, you're also a guy who you let me. I'm sacked that you want to work on your material and unorthodox places that aren't easy for you. He told me to go to certain clubs in Florida that you know, isn't your audience or whatever, and you feel like, Okay, well if I'm funny here, then I know it's good for my special weeks. Yeah I liked it. Well,

I'm you know, I'm I'm old. I remember Muhammad Ali, and you know he would go somewhere, they go up in the mountains and they would train, and training was eight weeks, and for eight weeks, if he lived a certain way, he could beat anybody in the whole world. So I try to like adapt that thing, like, Okay, let's get away, let's get away from all the distractions.

And you know, okay, maybe it's not eight weeks, but it's two weeks or three weeks, so you'll go to a comedy club in Columbus, Ohio, or trying to find a spot in Nashville right now, like something. So you are you saying like I want to pick the places where no one would ever find me funny, not even not find me funny. I'm just trying to get away, like really get away from my comfort zone, so genuine

laugh and not like the question. When you're around your friends, you don't even have to complete sentences, you don't even have to finish words. When you're not around your people, now you have to enunciate, you know what I mean. But the thing is, okay, now, when you told me that you would go to West Palm sometimes, yeah, but how do you know that they're just not blinded by

your celebrity, because comedy is this not that common. Celebrity only works for six eight minutes and then people you deal. When you're a musician, you know, no disrespect, but I'll disrespect him. I'll go a funk. I look at these motherfucker's going on stage singing songs they wrote thirty years ago, twenty years ago, five years ago, whatever the funk that they've sung the hundred times. That ship's easy because it's proven.

The audience knows it now. I gotta do what I what a comedian has to do is literally give people brand new hit records every night, like an hour and twenty minutes of brand new hits they've never heard before. What the funk? So, no audience is faking that love? Right? You don't want it from a musician, but you want it from a comedian. You want new ship, you do not want old. Hey, I can watch Delirious. I've watched

I've probably watched Delirious four times. But if I went and saw Eddie Murphy lived, be mad as a motherfucker if he did jokes from Delirious. When people go see live comedy, they want live comedy. They almost want to feel like you got this ship. You thought this ship up tonight, which is why Dave makes it so hard for you to take the shows. And he has all these different assets that which is dope because pass it around. And yeah, I still say you should do your greatest

hit story, like yeah, that sh it's done. I did it. I did it, I did it. I mean, you know, it's weird before all this, you know, I don't really want to talk about, but before all this Cosby ship happened, I definitely was going to do a part in the tour where I did like a long Cosby bit. But I can't do that ship now because it's just, you know, it's too hot, his spots too hot. And you know

didn't have favorite. Is that why it wouldn't have is that it was like favorite, not Favorite, I mean, not talking about him, but doing I was gonna I was gonna do one. I suggested that I was going to see that the dentist bid or the whole Russell whom up my brother Russell man, you know what I mean, Like that would be so cool to do one of his bits, but I'm not gonna. You know, you can't.

People can't separate. I don't think you do, Cosby, but I think you should do something I think I might do, like some Rotney jokes or something I don't know, but um like danger Danger Philly awesome. Yeah, I mean, I just I wouldn't mind doing it. You don't like you go to every rap show there's a sucking the Tupac Biggie tribute. It's like, that's what I'm saying. It's like, okay, in a comedy show, you got your fucking Rodney Cosby. You Yeah, right, dude, that's what I want you to

do this. I still got to right a fucking hour and a half of my own ship. But that I'm just saying a part of the show. You know, maybe that's my own car, Maybe that's my uncle. That's a a fucking great, safe own car. Yes, I believe that. I think you should do that. Can't do Cosby. So let's you know, let's not talk. You're from Philly, and uh, I'm not bringing up not at all. So you you said you killed in front of the like, did you know he was watching at the time. Yeah, I mean

they brought me up. I met him and I went up and I did my thing and I heard And what did you feel inside when you hear that? You know I was. I was a cocky young kid. I was. You weren't humble, like, oh gosh to meet you, sir. I mean I was humbled to meet him. I mean, obviously he was my fucking idol. You know what I mean. He's not even that much old. He's like five years older than me, but uh but he might as well be five years older. Men, Yeah, for what have you done?

He was a lot older than me mature mature wise anyway. And uh but you know, I mean put his away. I was so cocky as a kid. I'm not you know me, I'm not that guy now. But when I was a kid, I listened to his first album, the one at the comic strip with the you know, booginet whatever, and I just thought, I'm I could do this ship like I like it. And I loved everything he did and didn't like that album. So you still feel that way now? I like it more is that his Yobam

Russ show. That's funny because I like that record better than like Delirious Delirious. I was allowed to watch Delirious, so all my Delirious. I know Delirious based on people

doing it in school and basically Will Smith. I just realized, like for longest, Delirious was never available on DVD or any format, like when we were touring in the nineties, So when it finally came out on like DVD like maybe like ninety eight whatever, then I finally realized, like, oh god, Will Smith has just been doing Delirious on the Fresh Prince of bel Air, Like I don't realize

that well, I mean his it's attempted. I mean, of course you know that Will Smith studied everything about and then may that his person that uh yeah, delarious is fucking yeah. I wish I could the ice cream. It's like he should make the ice cream. Man. Imagine being the Imagine being in a coma during the whole duration of Michael Jackson's meteoric rise between like one to like let's let's give him some bad years to eighty nine, Like that was me blood on the dance floor. That's

what you're talking. Like if I were in a coma right at the tail end of Off the Wall and I woke up like maybe at the end of Dangerous, like I just everything anything. Eddie Murphy related was just taken away from me as not not even like coming to America. So you said that he took you to l A like at what point? Literally? So we hung out that night a little bit. I went up the boat. I was at Bubble Hill, Like, what was that ship? Like? Seeing at the eight How you were seventeen at this time?

Front nineteen named the Bubble Hill so weird. I live in that neighborhood now, it's so crazy, so crazy. Uh yeah, hung out. We went to see what he's all right, We're going to movies tomorrow, meet usaid whatever Broadway and seventy ninth or whatever the funk it was. We all and you know, and I'm out there waiting. The next thing, you know, there's whatever, three limos, four limos of guys and ship and chicks, and we saw she's gotta have it.

Spike Lee was selling T shirts outside the theaters. First time I met Spike what uh oh my god. We're talking in the movie the whole time. I can only imagine no, no, no special screening for him, No, no, no no. I was just like, it's like, there's a black guy making that made his own movie. Let's go see it and we saw she's gotta have it hung out and you know he's asking me about you know, I was. I guess I was like his liaison to the streets, to the club to you know, he was

thinking about touring and ship. So it's like a lot of like is so and so still there. It was like a lot of that ship him asking me about comedians and ship and uh, he's like, hey, we're going to l A tomorrow. You want to hang Yeah? What then? Why that means get on the plane or do they did you send you a pen? He goes, No, fruity, make sure Chris Rock's gotta ticket. And it's like, fruity, he gets Chris Rock a ticket. I'm there and it's this is your first trip, it's my first plane ride.

Was it in mind? I mean, was it a mind for you? It was a mind funk? A little bit. It was a mind fuck. Uh, it was a little bit of a mind funck without the l A state, up state, up first hotels, all that ship met our CITYO met Robert Towson met Keenan met Damon met you know, you know all the other Waynes brothers, Sean and Marlin. Uh. Time everybody's in l A. Did you not know them from their New York run? Damon a new Damon? I wot's say Damon had been on SNL for a minute. Uh,

oh that's right. Forgot about that too. Yeah, I want to say Damon been on SNL for a minute, but uh, I ended up with two lines of Beverly Hills cop Uh. Audition for the Tonight show didn't get it, but Eddie's manager liked me, so I ended up being signed by Eddie's manager and Richie Tinkin just in one fell swoop like yeah, everybody for a second, you know, like you know, it's like like we are like every guy's like the

next Jordan, right or the next Lebron. I was one of the you know, I was a guy might be next Yeah, this guy might be the next Eddie Murphy. I was like, when you did that for the first time, when you did Our Senio for the first time, how far was that? Because I remember the night you did your first our Site. That was probably a couple of years after that. I was in high school, so it was like our Citio. We did that Uptown Comedy Express

thing Uptown Comedy. Yeah, so we did that No Uptown Comedy Express was HBO special right right with like Marshall Warfors, Marshall Field, Barry Sobel. Yeah, I remember that. Robert got in trouble for watching that. Have you played with Eddie? Have you been in the basement and had to play drums? I got summoned to work on some music. There you go. He hired me twice to dj. Uh there's parties for him? Um but yeah, I think, yeah, we just gave each other.

I guess too. I think knowing you is Eddie Murphy enough? Like I don't know, you know, you know, like when you might not want to meet sir, I wouldn't want to meet Michael Jackson. I don't know if I want to meet Eddie Murphy. Yeah, no, no, I'm hey man, I'm you say, like he's still the funniest guy in the room, the funniest at the room. He's still the funniest guy in a room. And even I still a little bit fucking intimidated by him. I just hung out with him. But he likes you, and you know, he

a couple of months ago. Sometimes he likes me. But howel out that you've come up. He's been great I can't. I mean, he's usually the first call when I do something good. Whatever he's so the night after bringing the pain, everything changed. Yes, he was the first call, literally first call, and what he said just you did it great. It was amazing, all that ship, every everything you want to hear, you know, Eddie sein felt whatever, But I was. I was with Eddie. We we share a business manager. Uh,

we share a business manager. Me, Eddie and Arsineo have the same business manager. And you know, we go little head. He's not broke, so I guess this guy's good. So anyway, our business manager was getting married, and so we're all at because you want to go to your business manager's wedding, you don't, you don't. You don't want to mad at you for anything we've got, you know. So we're all flying back. We Eddie had a plane going back, so

we flew back together. So it's me, Eddie and ar Cineo on a plane together, just fucking chilling, talking talking ship and at one point Eddie's talking about watching the hip hop otters and ship and he said something about he met carriss One and he starts doing a caress One impression. It's the funniest ship in the world, Carriss Eddie Murphy going, my raps will destroy you. He has probably might do one. Caress One's the funniest shit ever.

My wraps will destroy you, like the ultimate over annunciator. I had no idea you didn't do as you know, like the hashtag well actually is on the line that okay, So whenever Jay z Ivant caress one, it's always well, actually, raps will destroy you. I told that to Dave and Cute Tip one night, and pretty much anytime we text each other it ends with my my wraps will destroy you. When's the last time you texted that to Cute Tip?

I don't know. Two weeks ago. You know, you want to know something when cut Tip was in the scene that you're in now, you mustn't type that to him because he's like, he was going to explain the inside joke. He's like, wait, Chris has this joke about he said about and he's like, no, it's too far to go into. And I was like, I'm almost certain that that was Dave. You know, Dave will start crying the thought of Eddie

doing caress one, So like, how do you nuance? First of all, my raps caress every time he lives in l A. Now he lives in to pinker Canyon and whenever I see him, I go to pank A Canyon, to pang A Canyon, and he's another He's another anti airplane rapper. He doesn't fly. Oh God, every summer he turns down the roots picnic because, uh, the Queen Mary. It's it's a two week process for him to take the boat boat dog Harris one. There there are there are a slew of rappers from the eighties that are

definitely afraid of flying. Rock him carriss One like pretty much if they were under the Rush roster. Maybe he was a bad flight one time in their lives. Public Enemy is the only group active maybe l O that I know that has gotten over flying to Europe or flying anywhere. Carriss One, Uh will drive himself to any place in the United States. He won't get on the plane in the United States. And yeah him and rock

him take the Queen Mary. I didn't even know that before. Yes, the Queen Mary to to England and mentor Europe that way. Well here's the crazy thing. I will bet. I'll bet you a thousand dollars right now. One of them can't swiping to say you won't take that bet. So I mean, alright, so when you're establishing, I'm assuming that you're I'm assuming that you're New York. You're you're New York base of comedy. Uh. I think I made a too earlier. I think I

made a record in the studio. What Buster and eminem like on an unreleased Buster record or something. This is not the place Tupac with shot? Yes it is. This is Quad. I thought it was no elevator downstairs? Were you in the right or the left elevator when you got it? When he came in, Q, he got shot in a lot B Yes, downstairs Quad? This is not this is two PACs. I came in, Okay. When you walked in the door, did you get on the right elevator or the left elevator? Okay, I gotta look at

it again, right or left elevator? What block will be on at night? You're in denial, dude? Yes, I was there that night. Yes, I think this is I think they move Quad. No, dog, I know this place because I made I made no Sex in the champagne room at Quad, and all my all my albums were at Quadqua a little bit electric lady, Let did you do the stuff for an Older Baster second album? Yes, the Old Dirty Bastt second album. Yeah, yeah, was upstairs Corell

and oldb upstairs. I was downstairs. That wasn't playing. Was happening. I wanted Old Dirty Bassett for my album and wanted on walls no more. So I did my part of Old Dirty Bassett's album right, because I'm a professional. Of course, by the time it was time for ODB to do whatever sketch we wrote for my album, he was too fucked up to do it. So he's in the booth and he's just spouting shit. He's just high as mother. He might have been swatting at imaginary flies like he

was so fucked up. He completely made it all up. He completely made it all up. And my man Ali thought of a concept. Ali Leroy thought of the concept Words of Wisdom with the Old Dirty Baskett, And so me Ali and Prince Paul and we're like, okay, so, who who are your peers at this at this point? What is your home? Basis a cancer rising, starry home?

Basis that the comedy seller Now well, no, not now, but I'm saying back in my peers, Adam Sandlers, my pier Colin Quinn's my pier, Mario Joyners, my Pierre Brett Butler is my pier. Uh. John Ridley, who wrote Yeah, was a was a comedian. Wait what was a comedian? You know what? I told me that John Ridley was a comedian. He worked with all of us. Was my pier uh. Scott Carter, the longtime producer of Bill Mars Show,

was my pier. Um. Yeah. Lots of cool cats. Gary Laser uh, Fred Stoler Uh, Jim Mandrinos, like guys you just never heard of. But are they still actively working? Oh? Yeah? Everybody. Nobody quits this ship. Where do you just go to Vegas? Like in your mind? Now, are you like I gotta avoid Reno? No? I mean you'll be there eventually, you know, if you're lucky put Away, your career is basically Vegas.

You want to stay near Caesar's Palace. But as your career, as you get older, you're gonna move further down the strip, and you just want to avoid circus circus, circus circus in the rif you want to. Hopefully you don't get that far down there, but you know, but even if you get down there, it's at Leasha's still working. It's more than you can make someplace else. So no part of Vegas or a Lake city residencies are like eventually, eventually,

you know, everybody's doing these residencies now. I don't my kids are here. I wouldn't want to do it now, but maybe someday. I don't know. I'm not against it. I don't know. I don't know. I would hope. I'm always touring, I would hope. I like touring a little bit, you know what I mean. I like going to San Antonio and doing walking the River Walk during the day and going by the Alamo in person. There's no basement in the Alamo, all right, so I gotta do that.

That's from Peure I was seeing deep got to walk out of the Alamo and say that large marg Oh yeah, any okay, okay, anyway, raps will destroy you. That's the cute tip dance break My raps will destroy you. So how did you get the role of Pooky and audition audition read for it? Uh Doug and George, Doug mckenry, George Jack Where the producers Marl Van Peoples saw me A woman named Joan Fields was my agent at the time. She was the only black agent at William Morris. She

just died not too long ago. And uh, she was the only black agent at William Morris. And she got me the audition. I guess she was tight with uh for Doug and George and they got she got me in there, and I kind of got the part. I mean, I hear they wanted Martin Lawrence now, um, because you know,

Martin Lawrence was amazing and he still is amazing. Uh. But uh, you know, they had no money so that I think they would have had to fly Martin in and I happen to live in Brooklyn, Like I remember driving my mother's car to the set the first day. You know, it was a low, low budget movie. No one, No one picked me up. What was what did you have to read? What part of it? The scene? The scene that our auditioned for was the one where me and the girl fought over the chicken in the hallway

correck like like whatever. I think I had lived that line, but uh so weird. I wonder what happened to that girl. I was about to ask people, are I have no idea? I used to date the girl that when he asked, does she have a milking titties? One night we're watching and she's like, there you go. I was like, you got where's the roots? What's what's the roots? Cover album? Where is that? Like? This is hey, my favorite, my

favorite rage against the Machine albums to cover album. That Ship is hot, the Rick Ruben fucking fucking rage against the Machine doing pistol grip pump ship exactly. Microphone Fine, it's cool, but you know what kill a man? That ship is hot. It's cool like Evil Empire for me is that's that's I have all their ship. But that as an album to listen to, you want to listen to like eight records in a row. Yo, what you've

called it? The Dylan thing they did? Uh Maggie's Farm, Chris is secretly by the way, Chris basically yeah, he student do a cover record. Do the Maggie's do that record? Essentially? And you said it because Trick is great, he's our executive. I'm going to prove i'mna great imitator and he's a great interpreter. I'm gonna prove to Chris that we still have good songs in this Dude, no one say you don't still have good song You think to prove that if I could make a fucking album right now somebody

else's jokes. You don't think I would do that ship to have But I have to prove I got something to prove with myself. I've I've I'll say that I've dj more than I ever have in the last eight years, of which this is also the longest gap of no roots material since rich I was with you the day that rich our producer died finishing uh top five. We haven't made an album since. So yeah, you should do it cover rap and do two new records at the

end of the record. But have fun, enjoy yourself. Don't put yourself on this because because the reality is you have a job, and your job is a Tonight show and everything else goes from that, and you cannot make and so whatever you do will be on the side, and nothing as great great as made on the side can only be good. So but you can. But doing a cover record eliminates half the fucking work. That's my

denerro heat movement. Though I feel like I'm a great producer, I've never been a great songwriter and it's but the thing is, it's all covers what sometimes he covers himself. But I'm the best, but I'm saying that. I feel, Okay, let's get somebody else to sing good to you. Not having the thing tomorrow, I feel I feel like the best producers in in the hip hop were also DJs.

And I didn't realize that after I saw Uh, the n w A movie and realized the the rest in the stress that Dr Dre was under as a DJ at that roller Scape rink, which is basically like you played the wrong right. Then I realized, oh, the pressure of Dre being a DJ. I had that same pressure last month at the White House where you know, uh, when you're in a room with three thousand people and it's like you're playing some trapshit and Springsteen's frowning at

you because he can't dance trap shit. But then you play like Michael Jackson and those two are happy, but then like Malee and Sassia over there frowning because they don't. It's such a high pressured moment, but it's made me. I feel like it's educated me more. Being a DJ these last five years has educated me more about songwriting structure than my first eighteen years as a route, so I don't even count even your beloved things of all apart,

I don't account none of that anymore. I want one more go around at making a fresh album before I start just doing the side projects. Thank you, this was and O d B. Occasionally I get offers to bring C Before back CE Before as what bring it back as what like? Offers to play festivals and stuff group, And well, what would I do if I brought C Before back? I would record an album of covers. That's what the funk I do. But there's less. There's less, and I would tour with that album with covers, and

I would make millions of dollars. Or I could try to write fucking ten great CB board songs, but they're not gonna play as before like cfore as the novelty B and CB group. But the roots should do I got what's like. The roots can make more money doing I got it made than special lead can make do what I got it made. The roots can make more money doing. I can name ten songs that the roots absolutely you mean remix too, not just do the I'm

not saying, I'm saying, do your thing to it. I can think you and I can think of literally twenty songs him why my beautiful, twisted, dark Fantasy. It is the best album of all times. Let's come back to that. Hey, hey, came up with Problems. It's a cover what Yeah? Rick Rubin calls me up. He goes, Jay Z is coming in. What should I play him? Because Rick Rubin believed Rick Ruben is a cover guy too. Rick Rubin's basically, you're gonna find yourself through doing covers. You cover the ship

you like. So if I have the Chili Preppers coming and they like I can't always get what you want, why don't you play can't always get what you want? First? Why don't you play ten and stay away to happen? And through playing these other records you will define. You will find anyway. So he's like, what should I play? Jay and I had two records just because we you know, we always listen to music, Me and Rick and I was like, play the ninety nine Problems and play them

this other weird record, Canna get a Table dance? Uh, ninety nine Problems is a weird record. Ninety nine Problems is a record that was on an Ice T album when he got kicked off Warner Brothers, and I'm just the guy that listens to everybody's whole album. So I heard so I heard it then, and me and Rick just loved the record anyway. He plays it for j J. Loves it, totally turns it into his own thing. And you know, it's one of his biggest records. It's it's

definitely one of his biggest records live. How similar is it? It's the same hook, So there you go. I have I know what I'm talking about. What made you choose this? It's the greatest hook ever. It's a great hook. I'm not saying it. I have a girl problems. Don't feel bad for your son. I got ninety problems with a bitch eight was hitting it. I wanted to be a rapper. I just couldn't wrap. So there you go. That it

was weird. If it weren't for New Jack City, I don't know well New Jack City and the subsequent four star uh leave review that Ice Tea got Rolling Stone for the O G Original Gangster album. I probably probably want to listen to it. That's a really good album, but it was I love that record, and that's his best album to me, Like that's no what would you played yourself on it? That power? Freedom of speech? Just what you say? You like? You like that one better?

I love it. You played yourself. It's just amazing record. Chris, How long is this fucking thing? It's nine hour? Is now it's a three hour? Really sorry, but we're having but okay, he's about to change all his means like apparently I have another ninety minutes left. Now, we'll wrap it up in ninety minutes. Um, it's not Brandon Steven Glover. Okay, who you Donald Glover's brother? Yeah? Who writes? He looks like h Vernon reach it? Yeah, I got, I got, no shame I want to work on like, oh get

that guy? You want to do Atlanta? No, I don't. I love it so much. I don't want to be on it. I love Atlanta so much, like like I like when I talked to I was like, no guest stars, just fucking you know what I mean? I like it should be like a Dre record. It should only be But you didn't dog Yeah right, you know not. Empires are just figured. I just did that because the Empires.

No Atlanta, No, Atlanta is like the greatest ship ever it's like some ship we dreamed about, Like Obama should have mentioned it in his speech, like we did it, Yes we can. It's like Atlanta. Is that good? Some ship we didn't think we'd ever see. Well, that's good that you you jumped the trainer. But yeah, I'm already like okay, how how how I can be down? Oh? You're down? You're down. So his brother writes his brother. I mean I talked to him and he was like,

hire my brother. I'm like, yeah, sure, whatever whatever you say there, whatever whatever you say, Mr Gambino. I'm like, I'm rolling with you. You have your pa. I don't got my I'm just like I'm not gonna be stupid, Like this ship is hot. You know a lot of times with black stuff anyway, No one people don't think it's written. People like kinda people overlook the nerd factor.

They think it's naturally done. Yes, they think it's you know, they think everything is just natural, and these niggers just show up and they yeah, they don't realize that the stories were broken and you know, scripts were written and rewritten. It's like, okay, yeah, I always described that if Woody Allen were allowed to direct Masterpiece about it, about it,

I think it was the greatest. No, but I feel like that's I mean, Atlanta me is like a surrealist, high intellectual surrealist comedy that you know, that that has the grittiness of a you know, of a masterpiece. It literally it does have the grittiness of the intellect of how people at least the perception of, you know, of Woody Allen comedy. But does that not make Donald Glover like a unicorn, like Donald Glover childish gambino in himself,

like as a comedian, producer, writer, artists. No, No, he's doing the thing he's doing. You know, he was pulling an ice cube, you know. See. Now last week he told me as well, well Will, I mean he's Will too in a sense, I mean Will's yeah, I guess I don't know. I mean, I mean his music is good. I love this new album of us. He's not Will, He's not willing. That this is I mean Will Will's movie. Sh It's just you can't nobody can work with it really, but he's doing it in It's weird because he can

still be him. Like, I feel like it's fascinating that Atlanta so black as it is but I mean it's just like Ice Cub wrote Friday. We forget Ice Cub wrote Friday like he wrote yeah it No, no, he wrote it. I remember I was. I was the Chris Tucker part, probably for like eight hours one day, and like they were gonna pay me eighty grand and he did it for forty or something like that. I forget. I mean, it's weird because I remember Cube telling me

as a guy that one. By the way, he's a thousand times better in the I wouldn't have been that good. I wouldn't I wouldn't have been as good as Chris Tucker. Chris Tucker is perfect for the part. But I remember Cube kind of telling me in a car like I had a meeting with him and he made me listen to a whole Lynch Mob album. So I'm like in a car with Yeah, I'm in a car with Cube kind of smoking a joint? Is he He's playing Lynch Mob records and they were okay? But you just like,

when what's the part with Ice Cube? No neck? You know, is yo yo on this one or not? Yeah? Exactly all right. So yeah, a long career I've been around, so you and I have something in common that that we both are love our dads. Yeah, well yeah, black guys that love their dads. That's we went to the high schools a couple of us, will Smith, grat Hill, that's a bunch of us. But you and I went to thirty Rock University. Thirty Rock. Yes, I definitely went

to thirty Rock University. I mean, in hindsight, I'm sure that you have nothing but positive things to say. But the thing I always wanted to know about thirty Rock is that, I mean, and we're now in two thousand seventeen. I mean, it's so politically correct and you know, if there are any vices, people hide it. But just all that folklore that I've read about, like the SNL or history book and about like you know, the the the binge days of you know, all the there's not even

smoking there now, like, oh no, it was Harold. We smoked in the refrigerator. I had no mand it, you know, I had Chris Fawley Man. I had Chris Fawley. I'm not gonna blow up too many. Put it this way. In my cast dead right, Phil Hartman's wife shot him in the head. That you know what I mean? Like, so I mean, this ship was rock and roll. Motherfucker.

This ship was like so weird. When I got hired at that s no, I lived in Brooklyn because I wasn't moving to Manhattan because I couldn't get a cab in man Head right, and I couldn't park a car, so it was like what the fuck? Just cost too much Parker car. I was never gonna get a cab fun this ship right Stan in Brooklyn, and I remember everybody was so uh Lauren, and everybody was concerned about me living in Brooklyn. I was the one that ever

concerned about. Mean, while Chris is the guy who died basically living o d you know what I mean, everybody everybody was worried about the new black guy living who wasn't living in the I was living Fort Green. But oh do you mean like showing up one time or just like just concerned for your safety. It was just or how you were blend in with them, not even blend in with him, just like who recommends did you

audition or audition? A guy named James Dixon who's Jon Stewart's agents, and a couple other people who was the Higgins at the time, who's the Higgins that the Higgins at the time was Jim Downey. And who's Higgins? Who's the head writer? Higgins is our Sideki no no no, no, no no. And and Senator Al Franken. Oh, keep forgetting I forgot so Al Franken was a senator, he was I think they were both the head writers. Uh. Conan O'Brien was a writer on the show. Uh. Bob oten

Kirk was a writer on the show. Yeah. Did you ever have any issues with the things that you wrote on that show? I always wondered, like, is it ever too black for S and L or too black? Nothing was ever too black. It was just it was a situation, aation. First of all, I had an amazing time at SNL is the best thing. It's absolutely the best thing that

ever happened to me. Yeah, because it kind of made me legit, you know what I mean, Like it was like graduating Harvard, which you did for the up and coming comedians from Howard and stuff made it even Yeah, I mean like I was. I was on SNL man, It is only you know, come on, like sn L forgetting even black, Like SNL is the X Men School of comedy. Okay, did Eddie give you any kind of preparation on what to expect. Eddie. The only thing Eddie

told me. He kept telling me, it's like, just just make sure you write stuff for update because it's the easiest spot to get on. UM. But what was your question? I was just asking. It wasn't ever too edgy or black to where they were like it was to edgy or black. It was like, it's like this situation just white people in general. It's like the things they understand about black people tends to be has to have a

racial element to it. So a lot of stuff I did it was more obvious like net X chilling, like that stuff is like obvious black stuff, you know what I mean. It wasn't really all the weird. I wasn't allowed to get into my weird side the other you know, like you so it had to be it had to be black. Yeah, so it had to be black. I mean, so you know, it's not that it's just white people in general. Is that the arsenio factor kicking in? Was

that the living color factor kicking in? I got hired because of the living color I got hired just like every like whatever that the girl I keep forgetting her name I was from. Yeah, I got hired pretty much under the same circumstances. SNL hadn't had a black cast member in nine years, and Living Color was hopping, and they went out looking for a black cast member, and you know I got the job. Um but um, I

forgot what else you're ready to say? No, just white people in general, when they're looking for black stuff, they tend to like something either ridiculously black. It basically goes to the Tracy Borgan or Larry Wilmore, you know what I mean, Like in the middle, in the middle, nothing in the middle. Nothing I'm taking because you explain, But do you explain in your whole and your whole theory of you did a joke about Obama could only hope

to be mediocre? Is again, it's like, you know, it's either the perception that we're animals or we are super huge. Not calling any person an animal. Let's just let's get up. Well no, no, no, but I've meant like just whatever the one side of the spectrum where it's the extreme

its triple raw or extreme caricature versus extreme intellect. But the thing with being ground zero middle is that that's just regular human yes, which is harder to Yeah, I mean that's what's Hey, that's why it let us genius, because it walks that thing. It's like, I was very rounded. I was recently told by a bunch of white women take a like a comedy class. They sound I made

one joke. I get really nervous about making black jokes in front of white people, and so when I did finally write one, they were like, oh my god, we love it. Tell us more about ourselves, tell us about white women. And I was like, really, but that's to see that. That bothers me too, because I feel like that's almost like fetishizing or you know, the whole guilt the guilt factor kicking in. And I was wondering if

it was a set up. I didn't know, but I was like, okay, I got a lot though, that's that's a set up. I'm sorry, that's a set up, sup. So okay, see you you're you're fine with your experience there, and the best experience is literally the best thing that I ever happened to me. I met the best people, uh not just I mean, hey, I got exposed about around a bunch of many So you know, I'm a guy from bed sty who came through this white system.

So I still I'm still the guy who has to go and with my uncle to go get the guns before the bad cousins come. And at the same time, I know, Conan O'Brien, how can you funk with me? You can't funk with me, you know. I mean that's all like, that's a lot of route, that's a lot of education, alright. So that leads me to the period between you something for um, I'm sorry I cut you off.

I wrote I think SNL. We edited a Spin magazine and I wrote an article about the end of the black super comic is coming because TV was getting more segregated, and the black super comic is me. Okay, let's take me of it, because that sounds I saw, I saw like a cornerback, right. But you know, there's a reason Eddie Murphy, Richard pryor all the greatest black comedians, the greatest comedians in America tend to be black. It's because you had to work these two systems in a world

that everybody else has to work one. So you're saying Sam Cook record in Harlem, which is more blacker than the Sam Cook record at the Coppa records come out. Yeah, this is the same thing that produced Michael Jackson. And like the the fact that you had to work two audiences in a world everybody else worked one. It's like, how do how can they funk with you? It's impossible. Can't funk with a guy that could work the Apollo and Carnie Haul. You can't funk with that anyway. But

the thing is you're talking about two audiences though. But I feel like now you specifically, there's there's Brooklyn alternative. There's the Brooklyn alternative stuff that I know that you love a challenge anywhere. And I always ask you, like, would you ever go to night Training? Two weeks ago you did night Train? Did night Train? Did? Like? Night Train? How do you do? I did? Okay? But I did okay because I I haven't been on stage in a while.

The night train and what is night Train? Just well? Okay? So night Train is like again, there's like I feel like there's three comedy universes in we're really for because I keep taking the black factor out. But for me, my observation in New York is that Brooklyn is the comic alternative spot. So night Train is a place that's where Wyatt would go like that, that's why it spot.

It's alternative, alternative, hipster comedy spot. Uh. And then you know, I feel like in midtown Manhattan between uh, where's the spot on Street that people sometimes go, like Amy goes there sometimes, but there's there's like a midtown if you're midtown to sort of like seventy Street, you might be going to you know, you might be doing Vegas, you might you're kind of mainstream, but stand well, the stand, the stand, but then the comedy seller. I feels like

the Harvard. I feel like that's the hardest place to penetrate, not because of the crowd downstairs, but I feel like if you can survive that table on the back where He'll sit, where Crys will sit sometimes Dave me Amy in Disease, Yeah, it's it's like Shumer Disease, Chappelle, Louis c K. But it's like it's the it's the it's the it's the constant traded geniuses of comedy that's there. That's their witched And I'm always curious, asked you, Chris

will be like, I don't give. I will go to alternative Brooklyn and see if I could work there Chris Wall also, you know, try car I mean not saying that you would ever do Carolines, but I don't know is Carolines like to you what I mean, I'll walk I'll walk on. Eric Andre went on. I was doing some shows the Caroline. Eric Andre did like a weekend or a week at car I would expect eric Andre to do the Brooklyn spots right anyway, I opened up for him. I like, I would you know I went

on before one night? Yeah, well not unannounces. Uh. Carolins was like the last comedy club I ever played for real, like when the Ship was just you know that that gig where you, oh ship people are getting hurt. Okay, time to go to theaters. But uh wow, okay, I just remember right around Bring the Pain. Maybe remember Louis who wasn't even my friend at the time, but Louie and David Cross, like Janine, all the cool kids showed up.

It's like, oh okay, so something else happening. What is that period between you leaving SNL see before Yeah, it was like maybe half a season of Living Color between between met and I'm not even saying big gass jokes, but more like I just remember a period when you started doing the one Hunter, collect commercials and politically correct. Yeah, I felt like Chris Rock, Like I stayed working. You

seem like a different person. Like you. You you cut your hair, you had a your preacher's voice was now starting to develop, Like it was less about like your voice on Born Suspect and your old Chris Rock throwing down the mic and all that stuff, Like you were now a nuanced I got older. I mean the thing with comedians, Comedians are good until they're in their thirties. This is not every everything you love about Richard Pryor he was thirty eight, forty whatever. Bill. There's no Little

Wane of comedy. There's no fucking Drake of comedy. Eddie Murphy is the only He's the only guy. Literally, if you go to your Netflix right now and just start clicking through people, you'll you'll find one two year old Eddie Murphy. Everybody else's grown. Because you gotta you gotta

pay taxes to fucking connect to an audience. You gotta be you gotta have been loved and unloved and cheated on a motherfucking and went broke, and you know what I mean, Like you gotta you gotta like you gotta, you know, feel the pain of just life and disappointments like I'm not who I thought I was and my mother ain't who I thought she was. Besides age, I mean, besides age, besides age? What and you get older? You

what made you work? Focused? What made you focus into like you know, I mean at that point of my career, honestly, I thought I was done as trying to as far as getting famous, So you thought, like off the Vegas and renown. I thought like, okay, what's his name, George, George Wallace, Yeah, like he always works. That was George my idol to this day because he's like that was my goal. I was like, okay, this whole trying to

be what does he make a year? I bet you makes two billion dollars a year just playing Vegas, playing Vegas like city cruise, ship this, like you know, choice gigs. Yeah, she's kind of like Jimmy Buffett. I'm gonna get comedy. I could be way off, I don't know, but I'm gonna get the quality. Like he's every comedian's favorite comedian. He's like like a guy so oh he's great. He's great as the interviewer. I was asking that he's great. I've what he does. He does a thing. It's hard

to realize what he's doing. It looks easy, that's what I want to know, Like, you know what I mean, it looks like he's just your uncle and he's just coming up with this ship. But George Wallace will come in the club and he'll have his pad and that motherfucker will try jokes and he writes jokes and sometimes he'll buy some jokes and he's like, very serious about this by jokes. Yeah, people buy jokes sometimes. Really, have

you ever had to sling jokes? Like, yo, man, I'm next week, I need something about o j I mean, you know, I watched people's acts and sometimes I give him a line or two or whatever. The fun somebody will give me a line. It's like, oh that thing you're working on, you know, if you try it this way, I mean, you know. And some guys just have jokes for sale. Some guys are just writers and they sell jokes.

But you know, what's the name does that right? The guy who does all the roast, doesn't he write Jeff je Frost? Yeah, I mean I don't. I'm not one of these like you gotta come up with every line. You just gotta you know, So, do you have a crew or a cabinet of like I like, right now I have, I've written I don't know our twenty minutes worth of stuff right right? And you know, my tour starts February. Wait time he comes here, he's coming to

tour tour. He's coming to that's next week. Hang one second, alright? Started is We're in the third hour of this week's episode of Quest of Supreme with our special guest Chris Rock, who just let me know that he's about to start his tour momentarily. Uh, but yet usually you let me know when you're like, well no, no, no, no, no, I don't know the huge of the smith. But you usually usually towards you know, you do the small spots first, and you start sucking around a little bit. I mean,

this is weird. I've never not heard you, I've never seen you wait this long. I've never waited this long. I mean, why are you waiting this long? Like my last three tours, I was kind of the same guy, so the same girl, had the same kids like I was my last to three years. Is like, I don't know who the funk I am divorced. I got like I got custody, I got you know, I got I got split custody of my kids. Like so so yeah, I got teenage daughters and like I'm really trying to

figure out who I am. A lot of it's that. Um, I'm not scared. I'm gonna work out. I think I'm gonna go to Nashville for a few days, like a week. Actually have some of my guys have Ali there a lance whatever? Uh, same guys. Are you bringing in new blood? So I'm gonna bring up some new blood? Uh? I think Jack White is going to be involved on some level.

So a third man record. Uh yo. I really regret this whole uh missing that that that that meeting, that Stoneheage meeting you guys had at Tip's house because I feel like so much business got negotiated night. That was a good night. It was like the Tip had a what do you call it at their funeral repost pass at after five thing. Yeah, but yeah, I mean We're at Tip's house a lot. Just I mean when he

was working on the record, now there's no record. I don't know what he's doing now, talked him a little bit yesterday, but uh, I feel like one has to live in Jersey. I gave my my A and R notes. How much of your set is worked out and how much it's gonna be kind of I mean it, honestly, it's the least amount I've ever had worked out. Ever, You're not worried about it, I'm not. It's weird watching Dave relaxes me a little bit. Uh Am I worried about it. I'm worried about it. I mean, it's put

his way. Worry is respect. You know. Motherfucker's that don't worry about ship, that aren't nervous, don't respect the art. I've heard that before. So I'm definitely worried, and I'm definitely but I'm carving out the time. I'm carving out the time. I'm just, uh, it's just a different me. I mean, I'm a father the first, you know, so you know I've been with my kids. You know, I got my I have my kids this weekend, you know

what I mean. So I'm not you know, you're still like you gotta go pick your kids up after this. I drop my daughter off. It's today. I mean, like, do you kids know you're Chris Rock or they just know like you did the voice over for my oldest is realizing because she wants to come with me every time I get on stage now. But but she just thinks like you get her into cool concerts. Oh yeah, that's part of it. Yeah, it's like hey, but they

have like, like, what's what's bigger? Watch that the kid their friends house, I mean what they got their own phones, they got YouTube? Would you not punch up your father? We had eight videos on YouTube? Of course they've wanted. But what's the ratio to dad? And oh ship, we're being raised by an A list celebrity. It's they know not yet, yeah, because we'll know you're no, I'm already Bruno Manis will be involved. I've already been informed that

I gotta figure out Bruno mars Is. Whereabouts of my daughters? Howld uh fift be fifteen and thirteen? So how you doing keeping him off the pole? Yeah, they're off, They're saying, I think they're safely off to pol You can tell these things early, like like athletics. You know, you know if your kids going in the major leagues by the time he's twelve. You know, if your daughters on the pole by the time it's about fourteen. Okay, we're out of the water here. You're good, You're good. But where

were we? Where were we? Uh? Yeah, I'm just uh get ready to get on. I'm just trying to figure out where I'm gonna go to work out. So I may go to Nashville. There's a part of me I wants to go to Baltimore. So I always make sure before I go on tour, I spend like a week in someplace really white, getting on stage in a place someplace really black. Are there black comedy clubs? Oh? Yes, there are where Atlanta, Detroit, um Mobile, Alabama. Uh, you know,

there's some spots. There's definitely some spots. Just you know, spot Earthquake plays twice a year. You know, good wet earthquake this week, and of all Crawford's the next week. And you know what I mean, Joe Tories come into town. You know in Top five, the whole the jazz d character, you know with was that actually a part of your career? Did you play those little clubs like that? Yeah, that really happened. The whole story actually happened. That happened, mother,

motherfucking man. In Houston, Another Town jazz d damn it, but e Cedric knocked that ship out the park. Why do you think that movie? Because that was I mean, that's my favorite of your movies and the other ones I liked. But you know, when you were talking about kind of finding I guess maybe finding your way in movies, like you would kill it on stage, But a lot of times in the early stuff, the humor that you

had on stage, it didn't translate to the movies. What was it about Top five that made that kind of like where it all kind of galvanized. It's a it's weird. Top Five is a lot like Bring the Pain. It was like a guy just trying to be good. Like everything before Bring the Pain was a guy trying to be famous, and like the other movies I made, it was like it was it was almost like I was making my own version of Adam Sailor movies in a weird way because he's my friend and his movies are big.

So I was like following another blueprint, and I was just like I was thinking about a one sheet. So it started with I think I love my wife probably, but like I had to stay down to earth and whatever else was just kind of me. Look, okay, this is a good poster and these are good jokes for a trailer, and I wasn't really thinking about a movie per se, and you know, uh yeah, I was just on some bullshit trying to get a hit. Still like still liked to stand. I said, it's got some good ship.

But but with Top five and I think I Love my wife, was just like, Okay, I'm just making I'm making what I want to make. I don't really care if it's a I would like it to be a big hit, but I really I'm really more about and I've really got into to being a filmmaker too. Well I was I didn't even care about filmmaking in those other movies. I was just Top five was just the thing I wanted to say at that moment. I wasn't.

I never thought it would be a hit. Put it that way, What did your wife think of I think I love my wife? Well we're divorced now, So I made it in a weird movie because at the end he does go to his wife. So I mean, hey, man, was like for life, like that changed my life. I mean, Quentin Tarantino said something a long time ago. He said when you make a piece of art, if there aren't people in your life that are mad at you afterwards, you didn't make good ship it. You didn't go deep enough.

She wasn't even mad. She wasn't even mad, because the sentiment was, I mean, it makes you look I mean again, I'm divorced me. I didn't want to make your I didn't want to make your your your divorced part of the your career discussion. But since we're here in hindsight, because I mean, after nineties six you became Did you get married before after I got married in nine? I think I think were you guys got married during Bring the Pain? Like we got married after Bring the Pain?

I think now like I could afford a wedding after that in hindsight, and I guess we could pretty much say that ninety six was the turning point of you really black culture, reasonable doubt Bring the Pain. Jay z One his opus affected the culture more than my opus. Yes you think so, and we're not. We're not kissing your ass because there's a venue as a rapper. It didn't not. Here's the thing, now, that's that's the forgetting the references and rap songs all the time Grand Opening

Grand Club the other day. But the thing is, Reasonable Doubt is also one of those albums that you were told it was a classic exactly. I don't remember being mad. No, nobody was bumping reasons doubt when we had fucking ghost Face, red Man and goddamn uh A t Aliens. I didn't. I didn't hear Reasonable Doubt until after I knew moved to New York. That that was. It was almost ten

years after. Yeah, I was like, like it came out and I remember I was like, Okay, this is good, but I'm saying the the impact of Bring the Pain on HBO it was I think madic moments. And we rewound it recorded, watched it over study that ship. Not my teachers in school. We're talking about Bringing the Pain like in home room, like before the bell ring, like they would be joking. I think you don't think there might not be Yeah, I don't think there's nine hundred

million dollars in your bank account. And you know, Beyonce, but you won that. It was a weird. It was a great year, some great black art cave ab out and uh and that was when you got married around it was. It was. It was a want to say hayes, but it was it was a world when a lot of ship was going on. But what I'm asking is at the point where you're not that you planned on, you know, suddenly having this meteoric rise in in this od ship moment happened in your life. But this is

the moment where you becoming the industry. But this is also the same time that you're deciding to become a husband and future father. And I always believe that you couldn't serve two guys. You're either gonna be a super industry or you're gonna be a family. That's what most guys do. I mean, I think most men marry when we're at the top of our game, you know what I'm saying, Like we marry at that time in our career, but we feel like like I think the women is

the other way around. It's like they get love and then think, Okay, now I have love, so now I can go and do whatever. But for us, it's like I gotta get my peace of the world before I can have love, because love calls like I gotta have I gotta baby to ford this stuff. Let know, you just said, like I gotta afford I could afford the weddings. So it's like for us, we gotta get ours first. So I'm just saying, how hard is it to be? You know? Are you if Selt is calling your phone

at PM, she's like you better not pick. I mean she was good. I mean, I dude, my output from nineties six to probably you know whatever two thousand three until my first daughter is ridiculous. I wrote movies, I wrote books, or she understood that she was very good. I can't sit there and you know, I wrote movies, I wrote books, I made albums, I toured, I did a lot of ship. So you know, hey, I guess you know, probably could have been better if I spent more time at whatever. But I had to do what

I had to do. I had to get my prints on. So did a TV show I didn't, you know, I produced Everybody Hates Chris. I did a lot of ship, man, I know. But that's what I'm saying, Like you can either industry or have the resume of an eight eight year old person. But he did not because he did a long time. And you know what, my last because

like Hamilton's, will not last as long as my marriage. Okay, yeah, you know, I'm trying to make, you know, put things in a positive spin, kids, because I made it ninety to just close to twenty years close to yeah, so yeah, that's you know. I mean, hey it is yeah, okay, and I made it and you put us together. Like I'm just saying. I mean, I got great kids, all good, everybody's everybody's fine now, so as long as you're happy. So I guess at the end, everyone to do it?

What are you asking this question based on yourself about it can be done, but only I can do it. My reps will destroy and maybe Edie because he had like ten kids too, I mean with the same woman. Well to you know, did you see that new family photo Jesus Christ. I didn't realize he had. Just to see them all together. It's like, I mean, here's the Wootank clan and the Jackson's like, yeah, he raised his own industry. That's crazy. Um So all right, I guess at this last moments I have with you, I just

want to shoot the ship. What is your top five? Top five rappers changes all the time? Jay Z, Kanye Uh, have you you thought about this because he's even when people it's like we're not in the park anymore. He made a movie about this. Let me, let me, let me say something to everybody's top five, We're not in the park. This isn't fucking Mr Magic's not add anymore. You're not listen and see this shift on cassette. Your top five is top five record makers. You're talking songs here, right, Okay,

that's what we're talking about. We're not. I mean, you want to say top five words, I can read off a piece of papers separate. But when I when I say, yo, rappers that make records and and we're judging them like running back, So you're judging four years. Okay, you're judging four years if you don't have four albums, I don't really I can't put you in my top five, you know. And by the way, just changes all the time. But now I did the record after I did the movie.

It's like, man, people ask me this all the time. Who's main albums that I like? If? It's almost like who would you like to see make a record with Dr Dre right? Now you know what I mean, like like for to produce, like who would you rather? I gotta go? I like jay Z knows how to make a motherfucking song. Kanye West is a bad, motherfucker interesting as fuck, only rapper in the history of the game with the mystique. Rappers are like comedians. They are who

they are. It's like there's nothing mysterious about him. Kanye is the only one. Okay, you don't think about any other rapper like that. You just don't, don't. You don't give a funk about you know, their relationships and all this ship it was amber Rose is just you don't think about anybody like that except one guy. Speaking of which, did you freestyle that whole ship on the name blame Game? I freestyled it? But how does that work? He just says he made me do. I was in a booth,

I don't know, a couple hours, three hours. Maybe he was producing me for real of him. First, I was hanging around a lot. Again, I'm good at hanging around, so I was your because I would never be allowed to hang around, So I got to hang around. Got to hang around Electric Ladyland a couple of times while he was doing the record. So I think I was around for Monster and a couple other songs, right, And I don't know, he just you know, text me one day, come in. We did it at that studio right next

to be Smith's, the one studio. Anyway, he had me in the booth I'm gonna say about three hours and he kept shouting instructions to me, how about this, how about that? And then he took all the ship and edited it and then I get a text. We got a classic and that was and he played it for me, and I was like, oh my god, because I didn't hear when I did it. It wasn't to music. It was I believe it was just to or I didn't

hear any of the words. So maybe there was a little music, but there were no all that John legend and all that stuff wasn't on it together. And he put it together. So and then he played and I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. And I don't know if I remember sitting with him and my own you know, me and my bullshit A and R. And I told him the album has to end on Who's survive in America? Who's the vive in America? Is like,

that's the end of the fucking record. Really. He put some bonus after that, but he ended it right there. I don't know, I'm not gonna say I get all the credit for that, but I definitely told him that it's like nigga, this is it? Who will Who will survive in America? Is the last thing I need to hear. This is the mic drop. Uh You ever hear the album the Ghetto Boys Resurrection album with the single game

to put Me Down? One might have been Ghetto Boys and Girls, one of the great rap albums ever made. In the last line of Resurrection is Willie Dee going, I'm a type of nigga, throw a party, win the flag, burn, I'm at the point in overturn. That's the end of the fucking record. Man, Yo, you love filler hip hop like you go beyond. Just because this ship ain't a hit doesn't mean it wasn't great. So sometimes there's some

ship in it. So I remember I told Kande that, and and I got from a good source that he listened to it after I left, listen to it in front of me him and Jay. Have you ever seen amber Rose after this, kid? I have seen that. I met her at some store on out of the avenue and I took a picture. She's you know, you guys just never talked about that. I love her. Oh my god,

you ever see like this? You ever see like those movies where like a guy like he's got magical powers, but whenever he uses them, like if I use it right now, it's gonna kill me and it saves the world. Like that's what it would take for me to give Amber Rose a proper fucking like. It would like I would be from stranger things. You know, everything would happen, I would get I would make a come, but yeah, I would be fucked up for a long time. I make a come, but I'd be fucked up for a while.

I'll be no good for anybody's ad motherfucker girl who tough? Five? Okay? Jay z Nye. The popular guys, uh Snoop Dogg More popular guys. You show me, You showed me a motherfucker that got ten records. You you show me you have a show right now, you do your rock the bells or whatever the fuck, And you show me who's gonna

follow Snoop Doggie dog? Who who Snoop is like? No Snoop is like law and order, like everyone knows that everybody And the motherfucker's ridiculous live when he comes out when he got the real bass player playing murder was the case. And this nigger got his braids out and his hands blowing in the motherfucking win and their motherfucker's as I looked to the sky and you're like, oh ship, and you're like, this motherfucker is really six feet tall.

He's really a fucking rock star. You can't funk with that nigger. You're that you can't fucking anything or anything. He's one of the greatest of all time. Um two and three, two and three, four and five, I mean, I got you know I can be he named three five just on that ship, just like yo, you can't funk with these motherfucker's. Man, You know, this tribe ship is for real, man, this ship, you know, que Tip is on some other ship. Now, don't get me wrong,

Fife God rested, you know whatever. It's some other ship too. They were they were not. He wasn't like a one man band, que Tip. But goddamn it, those records again. You can go ten in a row and be like, everybody's happy, everybody's happy, could the hood's happy, Your mom's is happy. You know what I mean? You know, I

mean the Trap crew is happy. In the Steve Harvey crew is happy at that is not too many mcs that could do that, right, And you know, and you know, Okay, she's only got one album, so I'm not going to say her, but who was her? No, No, Lauren Hills. Lauren Hills a better rapper then. I mean, she's a better rapper than Kanye or a lot of people. But you know, you gotta you know, you gotta have a body of work. You gotta have a body of work. You know. All this other ship, Um, that ghost Face

is a motherfucker. He's my favorite routanger. I mean, you know, I was like O. D B. And I was like meth and whatever like everybody else. But nigga, you gotta work. You gotta work, hey man, Tony Starks puts out a record every you fucking six you know whatever six days does a Tony Starts record, And that ship's fucking great. Speaking of Top five, because it just hit me now and the irony couple mentioned ice Cube is the is

the irony lost on you? Speaking of Top five? That uh the Media movie and Birth of a Nation were released in the same October week as what You predicted in the movie and have the same outcome. Um has that irony been lost. Here's the thing. When you talk about like schizophrenic people talk about ship like that, you know, I mean like happy is the irony lost on you? That it's not lost on me. You predicted that ship, it's not lost on me. It's not lost on me.

That I essentially came up with the idea for Tyler Perry's biggest movie in a decade. Uh, Like down to the cover art Jesus really yeah, say what the sink a cover? And like the Birth of the Nation. It's like that saying with him holding the well that Yeah, that's even crazier. Yeah, that's all the same stuff. I don't know, man, it's weird. My agents were like, we gotta sue Tyler. I was like, I'm not suing Tyler. Pair. I don't want to that. I don't want does he

even know? I mean he says, he said, Okay, what else you got? He called me up, I'm almost out of wait before you go tell me a prince story. I don't have a great prince story, honestly. I mean, he's one of those guys that he liked me. I loved him. I always pushed back, honestly because I always figured it can only get bad. I always figured, like I'm I don't want to funk up my access. I

just like those moments hanging around him. The longer you hung around on, the more he became like a normal person. So I used to love it when you know, when you'd have like a spaghetti stain, I didn't know it, purple spaghett It's like he's good. Look at that sucking stain on his sucking lime green space suit. I remember

so funny. I remember him calling me up one night and uh, so as I've read all the ship that's coming out right now and right before was coming two thousands, and him Prince telling me to did I need to change all my money in the goal because thanks and all, this ship wasn't gonna be working. You read he had

so yeah, and like five million in cash. And I remember one he wanted me to go on tour with him, and I turned it down because I turned him down because he was the promoter and I just didn't want Prince coming up to me one night saying, look yeah, like uh with a Chris Rock print show. I don't know. I just didn't. I don't want to put this l in that position, and we trust him as a promoter this this would have been yeah, yeah, so yeah, you wouldn't.

It was like emancipatient, He's doing everything himself. I was like, yeah, he was playing for his ass at that point. That sit down in You and Prince, I think it was v H one still one of the best Prince interviews. Like ever, Yeah, when you got him to say about the whole bad thing. I think that was the first time he never publicly commented on Yeah yo, but is mine imagine me saying, ah, yeah, man, man whatever, I don't do a good Prince but uh, alright, well, Michael

jack I'm gonna have Have you ever met Michael Jackson? Um, I was around him. I didn't properly meet him meet him. No, No, I do have a one story of meeting him. Here's like at first, I was around him for the What's Up with You? Video? Remember this is the moment for we've been waiting for. So I was around. I was around for the What's Up with You? Video? And so I didn't get a chance to talk talk to him like that. That was a v I P section that

I knew not to even walk near. But I got to watch so Eddie brought the crew with him something. But I got a call from Michael Jackson when I first time I hosted the Oscars. You know, Michael Jackson always film ship all the time time in movies and had crew people. Anyway, one of the crew guys gave me a fucking phone and it was Michael Jackson wishing me a good show. That would have messed up my night that he called that night, that day or whatever,

like dooring, like dress or whatever. Wait, I just realized there's a whole suit of questions. I still didn't ask, like is that pressure, Like do you want to I was hosting to ask us I want to, I want times, I want this to be better than everyone else's. But hey, Chris, you're the hindsight revisionist. I always tell people it doesn't you can't control if it's a hint, but you can always be good. It's good. No. But the thing is is that you could say now after the fact, that

you know, I was cool in Cucumber. But if you're getting called from Michael Jackson, good luck, which essentially the nice guy version of don't sunk up? Now, how do you feeling? By too fast? Honestly, I mean, I think that the BT Awards was more impressure. The fact that you wanted to do that shocked the ship out of me. I did want to do it because it is risky, but you know what happens. It's easier. Oscar b T Wards Oscars are easier than be T Awards. Just put

it away and no disresprised. People liked what I did at the Oscars. But if thirty other people had hosted the show, they could have done a good job, you know what I mean? But I love Billy Crystal. Billy Crystal would have came out there last year. He would have annihilated the Oscars. He would have been great and

everybody been happy. Because you can't do the b teal Wards if he didn't be amazing, you know what I mean, like like you, I mean like you Grant or without you Grant, but you know you, Jackman could have done it. If you can't do the fucking b teal Wards. More nerve reckon this lastscar like they do amigo joke? Was it more nerve reckon this time? Because I mean it wasn't your first, but it was like everybody was on you this Oscar so white year. It was you know what,

this was like one of those happy accidents. Man, I agreed to host a show. None of this stuff. It even broke out yet, I was just like initially wasn't no, that was two years ago. I was, you know, I I don't know. I just had nothing going on. I was. I spent a year, you know, trying not to try not to talk about my personal life. But I was in divorce court so much like I was just so and a fog, so nothing like I didn't have a script or anything. It was like, Okay, let me host this.

Let me host this, because it's hard to you know, custody and all this ship going on. So it's hard to do a movie. It's hard to do a TV show. It's hard to do anything. Oscars like honestly like a three week commitment. It's more if you want to put in more. But I knew I could do it, so I said yeah, because I was so busy, get whatever. Uh that if I didn't do something, I was gonna risk. It's very easy to be to not if you're not

like a movie star or have a TV show. It's really easy to not be seen for a couple of years, you know, what I mean, like, you gotta be very strategic about this ship if you're not on a show. So I figured, if I do the Oscars, it's like, okay, that's that's me for night, that's me for two thousand sixteen. This is a different Oscars. This is so that was the decision to do it, and nothing to do with

anything else. So just like okay, and then the nominations come out and there's no blacks, and now it's like, you know, it's the most important thing. I got essence cover I never got before, you know what I mean, twenty years and show, you know what I mean. Like I was like, yes, suddenly I was another cat. So um, yeah, it was a lot of pressure. It was a lot of pressure, but it was fun. It was fun, man, it was fun. I had It was the best time

I've ever had hosted the show. Are there any other challenges? Like, I know the last tour you went to other countries, which besides Billy Crystal. I know now everybody does it, but yeah, that was the big I left my manager over that. Over you didn't want to go I wanted to play other I was just like, okay, you know everybody has this saying black acts don't work here, there or whatever, and I was like, I can't keep playing Philly. This is like I want to be the best in

the world. That means playing the world. You know, I can figure it out, so I thought. And with the arslot of the internet, like everything, no one had done it, no one had really done it. It was like an occasional show here or there, but no one had really toured, no comedian had really toured, toured outside of the country. And it worked out, you know, thank god for YouTube, I guess. I mean, I went my initial first time

in London. I thought I'd play like six hundred seats, played ninety, you know, you know, over weeks and weeks of doing shows, and you know, you know, if fu can do Obama, fucking you know, Victory Lap pretty much broke the record in most countries. A lot of it was a lot and a lot of it was word of mouth. A lot of it was like one show sold out or two and then people liking the show so much that it just kept rolling into other things. How many shows were in London, I don't know how

many shows Chris Rock shows. It was like we'll do two and there's five more, then there's five more, and then yes, okay, let's oh fuck, there's too many for the hammer style. Let's see if we can do that. Let's do the O two. Oh, the old two sold out in a day. Let's do another like it was, like it was, And do you prepare it to her like a rock star? Like do you do it every other night? Because I know, like you used up a register of your voice, Like what happens if you have

a cold or your horse it fucked, your fucked. I mean you gotta when you get off stage, you drink your tea, You try to talk as little as possible. You you try to watch what you do even on stage. Um, I mean I got, I got pipes like a metal singer. Yeah. I was about to say, you are, like, yeah, I got when I when I did the play years ago. The motherfucker, the hack, uh, the whole experience. I was the low man on the totem pole, the whole experience.

I was the rookie right through rehearsals and blocking and everything. Right the moment we got to the stage, I was you couldn't with me because you projected yeah, every yeah, every I was the only one that didn't have to have a doctor and get vitam and B twelve shots and whatever for my voice because I played fifty thousand people. Playing a thousand wasn't anything you know when you were going, uh and traveling to other countries, was there anything in your act that you had to kind of change or

tailor to fit that country? Pop culture? Do you have someone look changes from town to town? I mean you you do a thing like okay, what's what's your Walmart? What's your flat? With references? So who's the prime minister, who's the president, who's the Okay? This is there a researcher who does that for you? Let you know I do it or you know Alan Leads would do it. Uh, you know this a Rod joke is now Ronaldo joke.

You know what I mean? Like you do those things, but um, but and you have to just change that stuff. The jokes with that talk about men and women to change shit. Men and women are mad and happy about the exact same things all over the world. There's no the relationship dynamics don't change anywhere. So lastly, all your script, what's what's your what's your pin game? Into like what's I'm working on a script. I can't really describe it right now. Well now I want you to describe it,

but you are, you know, I'm working. I'm working. I'm trying to get my man from Atlanta to help me out a little bit. Uh, I'm working on something. Hopefully I can finish it before the tours over and uh, you know, get back into directing. The Top five opened some doors for you. And that Top five I get a lot of offers to direct, um offers producing, Like, you know, people took me serious, Like okay, yeah, I

feel like like another situation. You're you're you know, and it's like the third movie I directed, so it's like, okay, some filmmakers takes a while. Hopefully, you know, I got to do it again. Honestly, like David ol Russell's first it wasn't David d Russell out the box or even you know, and I shouldn't compare myself to him, but I'm just saying people artists grow. You know, the second Fuji's album, you know, it's a big jump. It's the

second Nirvana album. It's the big jump. So you know, I got a big jump in my third movie, and hopefully it'll you know, I don't take for granted and fucking you know how much of that was autobiographical in terms of the struggle in the character in the movies and struggle was alcohol? Was that personal or was it a struggle? Wasn't alcohol with me? I mean a little bit, but not to the extent The struggle with me was

just Pardian. Struggle with me was girls. Honestly, do you know that was like Okay, I could fuck so and so, or I can get on stage. You know, I can juggling fucking six chicks and you know that's six conversations, that's six complaints. That's like, you know, I mean, that's like you know, I mean, that's you know, that's like being a manager of a sucking Arby's and ship my shift. How can I get like it's like literally yeah, just like okay, let me get that part done with. All right? Well,

Mr Rock, I know this was painful for you. I gotta figure out a three hour three ever to ask you are you don't? And before we go, I just want to say, man, you are the reason I drive in ultimate from the from the thing you did. I think it's on MTV you talk about how you like to steal that I think. Yeah, like I drove an ultimate and I was like, you know what I'm about. That was the whole Jokey, that's one of those things they said, you want to do it. I said, only

if I could make it funny. You did it. And now, like even on the top of you're talking about you being like a private I'm currently living out one of your jokes because I just bought a house and I'm like one of only of the three black families. Like in the whole joint, the guy that used to own the house was the dentist. There you go where it was, Well, sir, I thank you, and I'm certain that you'll make me

pay for this somehow. I will. I will. I'm staying in town, so if anything's going on later, let me know. I gotta go by. You're not gonna go by two or close. Nice, You're not gonna do it any mury, just go to mom by the red I found out that he didn't have an outfit, he didn't have an outfit and figure out he didn't have an outfit for delirious and just went to the mom and saw the leather suit inside of him. It's not even a suit. They're like, he already had the pants. Of course it's

not even a suit. They don't even match. Oh wait, you don't. You don't have a wardrobe present. I do, but sometimes you just want to walked through. And let's gonna say, dare I introduced him to the crazy Words Steve. Oh never mind, anyway, Thank you very much, Chris Rock. We appreciate you coming on this show. This Question of Supreme will be back with more reflections. Reflections like what

did you learn? I learned that if Chris Rock everyone wants to quit comedy, he will be the most amazing a and r like for real, or at least the most opinionated and I mean not nine problem story can't be denied like that. That ship was real? Right he? Yeah? He? I'm telling you he has a tendency too. I thought I liked filler and non relevant rap stuff, but he loves filler and just you know, he goes beyond a person's Oh you know what else? I learned what my

raps will destroy you next? Alright, man, I learned that Chris Rock is um And I'm not just saying that, you know he's here, but he is my favorite comedian. Like favorite. I mean he he had been for years, but just uh, sitting here and talking to him and just the way he discusses like his personal life and uh, you know, just discussing the journey of like going through a divorce and how you you know, losing that year

and all of that, what that entails. And you know the thing that he said about how if you're not on the TV, if you're not a movie star, if you're not on TV, years can go by without motherfucker seeing you. You know what I'm saying, And like that ship is real. So that man listen, you know what I mean. So for him, he's just real, Like people won't recognize you. That people she came back and nobody kne who I was just shut up. But now he's just he's just all around. It's just a real dude.

And um, he's definitely a person. That ship he said about not being with people like what we're saying, like being untalented and sexually transmitted, that ship is fucking true. Like there has been sexual opportunities I have passed down because I didn't think that much of a person's art, not not even wrong crewe, Like I just didn't think

the art that that girl made was whatever. So it's just like, yeah, like I don't wanna you know, you know, I don't want you, you know, to make this vagin of decision and I can't support your art, like I feel that would be disingenuous, you know what I mean, Like I can't do that. People think of pim they got no feelings, but the pimp got feeling. I wouldn't do that to her. So but yeah, but that's real man. So he's just a super relatable dude. Man. Still my

still my top number one. Okay, you guys told me, someone told me that I don't know how to take a compliment. Uh. I actually felt honored that, you know, when he said I don't hang around untalented people. Has around you wait on each other. I'm telling you, oh, man, he really likes my talent. You know. I appreciate that. Chris is the dude that, like, when you're stagging it in one particular area of your life and then it's

it's a sudden um, it's an upsurge, you know. I'll say, like, in the last five years, things have definitely changed for me and dealing with family members and all that stuff. Like you know, you don't know how to deal with it because you just think that you know, you're gonna be a a starving artist or a broke artist or whatever,

like a struggling artists or whatever the case is. And so he was really there to let me know, like to get he was the he was the magical negro they see, the one that he was kind of like your rich nigger whisperer knew that you knew your nigger whisper Like, yeah, he seems to do that with a lot of people, though now he does. Like his first thing was he was like, he's like, all right, you're gonna meet me here tomorrow. I was like, why where

are we going? He's like, We're going to a not a tea party, like we're going to a cocktail party. And I was like, why would I want to go there? He says, because you never know the day that you're gonna need to borrow sixty dollars so you could develop something. And I was like, huh, Like he just he just know. It was like for real, like now you have to take that and you have to do I went to this thing with him. We shook a bunch of hands,

a bunch of old rich people. You now have to be Chris Rock at some point and pass the baton do the same thing mentoring. That's great. Yeah, it's called Ques Love Supreme only on Pandora only. You know how much stuff I've learned on this show that I actually like applied to my everyday life now straight up, straight up anyway, Yeah, he taught me a lot. So I'm

very grateful that he did the show. Bill Um. So yeah, the whole him being the secret A and R or whatever behind the um the jay Z ninety nine problems and like we were talking when we were on break, like, can you imagine what it would be like if jay Z picked problems that it would be amazing. I actually kind of want to hear that. So, j if you're listening to get a table, I think it might be time to revisit that. And I learned one more thing, one more thing. My wraps will destroy you, will destroy

you where you learn. Um. He kept going back to his ability, um, and you know, his his ability and the value of of blending in being being able to hang with anybody. And uh, I feel I've made a bit of a career of that myself. I'm not laughing. But now I cannot wait for the day we get carrerass one on this shear. I know our intro is going to be nothing but my wraps. I'm sorry Steve

far for interrupted go it. Um. Yeah, his his his thing about blending in and um, being able to hang with all sorts of different crowds and people, and the value and that and that it's a skill, and um,

I can vouch for it, I think to some extent. Also, I thought it was cool, um, because you and I are always making the comparison between musicians and comedians and saying all the similarities between the two different trades, and um, he mentioned a major difference, Um, that musicians can can work on continue to play their old material, you know, and that's actually what the audience wants to hear most of the time, is the the old songs and the hits and so forth, and and comedians have to come

with the with the new stuff in order to So I thought that was cool that you know, this sort of major difference between those two things which we don't think about. We always think about the similarities. And I also got to mention that X in front of nat X, which was really so awesome, remember that time you didn't

that's really cool. Alright, alright, Bill bill Um. I used to open a lot for comedians back in the day, and I remember being backstage and they're being like the most introverted, angry folks at Freestyle loves the premu U to open for a lot of comedians because we were a comedy thing in in you know, in Edinburgh at the fringe anyway, there's just really introverted dudes. And you were like and made me not want to hang out

with comedians. And so Chris Rock very much changed that because he's just he was not He's not like that at all, and he's he's yeah, I would say so like they were. You know, when your job is to try to make people laugh all the time, I feel like the rest of the time you're just like a sad dick. And then this wasn't like that at all.

I like that. And how about that divorce can really, you know, change a person, right, So there's like there's the highs of Chris Rock's life and there's the loads and it's all some ship and yeah, the look of acknowledgement on Fonte's face, I don't like you kind of like can't really do together. I mean pretty much more than all right, what do you do? Building Fonte? What are you two going to feel? Betrade, like four years from now when you're like, all right, I've never getting

married again. Are you getting married? I'm never getting married again. I know that. I'll a would say I would say this, will I will say this, You're definitely getting married again. Everyone says that, why do you say that? Okay, okay, this is why they say. This is why they say it. No, that's why they're saying. This is your haircuts made a marriage. People can't haircut for marriage. My raps were made destroy you my nikka Bill Sherman got the number two on

the Fantastic Sam Shaw. Alright, your account, go ahead. Okay, this is why I was, I would say, because this is as a person that had said that I would never do it again, and I want to do it again. All right. It's a couple of things, all right. First thing is that you got to realize that there are like a common threads that run through all marriages, but sometimes you can just be with the wrong person, you

know what I'm saying. And for me, I just know in my marriage that was just the wrong person, you know what I mean, and so and and not even putting it on her because we cool now. But for me, the person I was when I got married was not ready to be married, Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like if you eat if you've never eaten beef before, and somebody make you a cheeseburger and it's just fucked up, and you taste that, you like, I

hate cheeseburger. It's like, no, it ain't that all cheeseburgers sucked up cheeseburger. I was gonna say, But you're s when you were at the altar. When you were at the altar, was there a point when you're like a ship? Maybe not? You caught up in the moment you couldn't wait to frank you beverly amazing. No, it wasn't. I never had a moment where I thought, like ship. It wasn't that. I mean, I think you you know, I was all long before that first Oh when I realized

I sucked up? Right, Oh, now I realized I sucked up like within the first the first year, you know what I mean, Maybe like the first someone shows you who they really are. Yeah, that shows you who they really are. And I mean and even beyond that again, I mean like it really just depends on who you are. And I just speak specifically as as as men. You know what I'm saying, just talking to them, man like, it really depends on us. It depends on it's not so much. And it is the part that like women,

they don't like to talk about. It's like when a man decides to get married, like we're saying with Chris, it's at the top of your game. It's when we at the top. So it's like, it really ain't got ship to do with her. It's got to do with who you are, you know what I mean. You know, it ain't got nothing to do with you know, with who, and it ain't got nothing to do with who you who she is. She could be like the greatest mothercker ever,

like cook, clean, big ass, facted, whatever you like. But if you ain't big, I mean, you know, whatever you like, Yeah, if you have all that, but if you ain't ready for that, and then it don't matter what she got. What I'm saying the first three big you feel me. So we're just saying, so we say intelligence because that's what they want to hear and talent STDs what whatever talent is sexually transmitted sexually transmitted untalentedness. That's fucking scary.

But now, so I would say that boss Bill, I mean unpaid Bill. I think you know you you're feeling it that now because you fresh out of it. You want to get mad, and I ain't you still going through your divorce, like you're still going through the aftermath, like you still got like your thousand yards still of divorce. You know what I'm saying, because that ship is fucking

traumatic at this point. And I have the right hair, so I'll be fantastic, you know, fine, Fine, And I would saying I don't know saying this because I was the guy that before I was like fun this, I never do I never do it again. And I kind of had to eat some humble pie once I decided to do it. But it's a process, and you know you you work through it and you may decide to do it, you may not. But if nothing else, I think that your heart will soften once you make it

out of this joint. Like you gotta treat you gotta treat the vorce like PT is D Like you really got to treat that ship like you've been through something many so many abbreviations, STDs, ptsd s. It's all yeah, you gotta yeah, you gotta treat it like that. You gotta get yourself at that time to really to really heal. And then if you decided to do it again, you know you can make a bet decision. Divorcedora, that's gonna be the offspring. Yeah, when we get our side shows

all day just like remember that ship. Hey, our boss Scott's here. Did you learn anything we embarrass? Did we do we embarrass the higher ups and office upstairs? No? I mean, look, there's a lot of things I think in this interview that we're super interesting. One, uh to what Fonte was saying, super real, like more you always felt like he was at and in his comic and celebrity persona, but just having him here in the room. Definitely a real dude, super talented. Most comedians Seinfeld otherwise,

I'm a big fan of comedy. They take a year to work out before they go out on the old and they get a solid sixty to ninety minutes before they do that, and he's literally putting it together, winging yea as its because no he's my Chris is my preparation guru for all the for all the folklore I talk about, like the ten thousand hour practice thing, Like I'm with him when he's at this obscure club, like working things out with his grandfather glasses and all these notebooks.

Like when he's prepping stuff, he's not like this sure you know coxs your walk on on the stage and thing. No, he's like walking on the stage with pointext to glasses, with a whole bunch of composition notebooks. Okay, what's try to talk about? Okay, try some food jokes. No, I'm not that okay Ravioli so no, no, no, no, no no no. And he's like like literally and watching the process and to see nobody laugh. And if a joke doesn't work, he's like, you know, I'm like, okay, let

me try okay. Uh nikes. So like he's real scientist, he's really working it out, like the reason, right, He's the reason why I started prepping my DJ sets, Like, oh, to be that great, you have to prep and then not just go up there and wing it. How do the audiences respond to him when he's working stuff out?

You know, like you said, they might not laugh. But like sometimes people or sometimes it's weird because lately I'll see him the last year when like you just gotta come to the Comedy Seller, like now he if he's going to Comedy Seller, then everybody's gonna like Louie is gonna show up, Seinfield might show up, because he's definitely showing up. Uh, Hannibal will be there. Amy's gonna be If Amy and him are there, then basically nine of

the gods of comedy will also be there. I think if you're coming to the Comedy Seller, if you're an audience member that's going to that club, I think you kind of know what you're in for. I think like they don't because when I say no Jim for meaning like they would like to see someone work that out, you know what I mean? Pay sense. Ever since Louis, people understand that that's that the Comedy Seller is the

working out spot. But you know it's also the you're caught up in the moment because you know, if Chris is on, then damn Kevin Hart must be oh my god, there he is right there like it's it's it's But also, like he said, comedians will they feel like them for each other. Also, Yeah, and the real, the real workout happens upstairs because once they're done and they go back up to that booth in the back, that's when they start, you know, you know, you bomble mes ship and da

da da da da and they start comparing notes. Like that's the real That's the part that I wish people could really see about the process of of comedy building. There was two other things he said that I kind of wish we had dug a little deeper on, which was he talked about all of his friends doing drugs and he didn't, and I kind of wanted to know why, Like what was it? Like was he afraid? Was it health? Is it just like I don't want to be that guy because his dad would have beat his ass. I

kind of figured that too. And then the other moment when he decided to go to the when he saw the ad and went down to the comedies, Like what what made him say I can do comedy? Like he at that point he had said nothing had ever come other than he was just a fan of it, like scientific in this approach, but he's not scientific romantic, Like

I'm scientific romantic. I'll fetish size over Oh my god, Like, so when you had this MP three, you know, this, this MP three of this particular song, did you think that he can nostalgic over MP threes? Now, Shi, Well, I think there's but and the stories you've heard on this show have kind of ruined that notion because you hear all this stuff is happy accidents. Right. Well, I'm fine with the happy accidents, but no one, no one

really scientifically genius, tends to look over there. You know, they're very dismissing of of their work and that stuff. So it's been a whole lot of happy accidents and not overthinking things. Yeah. I do all the overthinking anyway, when half of Queen Uh wait, I have a funny story, funny Chris Rock story. If we're ending, if we're ending the show. Um, it was like a year and a half ago. You were working on the music for UM

for his movie Oh I Forgot scored? Yeah, and um, for some reason you had me text him or call him, and for some reason my my number ended up in his phone. So one night I'm at home, hi as hell, and uh, I get this FaceTime and it's Chris Rock, right, it says Chris Rock FaceTime, like he's calling me. So I'm like, okay, so I picked I pick it up and it's Chris Rocky's like in the back of a car or a limo or something like that, and he's like, who is this, Like he's looking at you know, I'm like,

you call me? He go, go, this is Steve Us engineer. He goes, oh ship, he goes, I don't know how that just happened. I go, you must have just asked FaceTime me, you know, like as style FaceTime, Like my number must just been in his phone and his must have sat on his phone. So I'm like, yeah, okay,

how are you doing. He's like, goods, I'm gonna go back to smoking crack now by and I just like that was the perfect Chris rock interaction ending all right, let me have I'm pay Bill Fox Bill and h Sugar, Steve fon Tikolo and yeah yo this of course Love Supreme. We will talk to you on the next girl round. All right, of course Love Supreme. It's a production of I Heart Radio. This classic episode was produced by the

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