The Quarantine Tapes 250: Maurice Harris
I often say that why I love working with fresh flowers is because they are not forever, and to enjoy their full potential and their full beauty, you have to be present.

I often say that why I love working with fresh flowers is because they are not forever, and to enjoy their full potential and their full beauty, you have to be present.
On this very special live episode of The Quarantine Tapes, Paul Holdengräber speaks with artist EJ Hill. This episode is part of a partnership with OXY ARTS. EJ and Paul are in conversation about EJ’s latest exhibition, Wherever we will to root, on view through April 22nd at OXY ARTS. This episode was recorded live on March 3rd, 2022. EJ and Paul have an incredible, deeply reflective conversation about EJ’s art practice. They discuss his reluctance to speak about his work, how his demanding perf...
“The music that [my teachers] would make would always amplify the struggle, but it would also amplify the joy. My teachers did not shy away from these kinds of tough conversations and they laid it into their music. I’ve only been taught by musicians who did that.”
“Suddenly, I couldn’t hear my work. I couldn’t hear all the tiny moves I made or the tiny pushes or reductions in volume. It suddenly became something else.”
“I’ve realized recently that unexpected tears are maybe the highest response that I can hope to elicit from an audience member, because it means that it doesn’t come in a predictable way, it comes in a way that kind of levels you from a side you perhaps haven’t touched in a while or didn’t even know you had.”
"There’s a kind of archaic quality to us, for as much as we might think that we’re these brights new things with these new toys and off we go into the future to sort things out, no. We’re riveted to a past that we do not really even begin to understand."
“How can you be nostalgic when you know too much about the world? It’s not moral, really, to be nostalgic for a time when so many people were not given certain privileges and certain comforts.”
“When I went to New York, I did feel that there might be something wrong with me, that I was in love with a machine.”
"Gonzo reporting is really interesting because it’s allowing you to tell stories that are kind of outside of the mainstream, that fall into the cracks. That are maybe undocumented or under-documented, misunderstood, stories about the freaks and the margins and liminality, which ends up actually not being liminal at all but often the first places where important ideas and discussions hit before they kind of enter the mainstream."
“Bad writing can often make us think that the words themselves are the problem, and it’s not. I think that any word, if used at the right time and in the right context, can create a moment of intense illumination.”
“I was giving a talk digitally to MFA students and at the end of it one of them asked, “How do you… How can you write…How is it possible even to write fiction now?”
On episode 215 of The Quarantine Tapes, guest host Lena Herzog is joined by Oliver Stone. In this special episode, Lena and Oliver talk about Oliver’s experience of the return to the movies at Cannes Film Festival, where Oliver showed his newest documentary, JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass. Lena and Oliver go on to discuss Oliver’s incredible book, Chasing the Light, published last year in July 2020. They dig deep into Oliver’s personal history, from his first job to his experiences in ...
On episode 213 of The Quarantine Tapes, guest host Jacqueline Novogratz is joined by Maria Popova. A writer and the creator of The Marginalian, formerly Brain Pickings, Maria talks with Jacqueline about her perspective on this moment and how we move through the world in both ordinary and extraordinary times. Maria and Jacqueline spend this special episode digging into poetry, the importance of beauty, the meaning of hope, and much more. Maria tells Jacqueline about her childhood memories growing...
On episode 212 of The Quarantine Tapes, Paul Holdengräber is joined by writer Hari Kunzru. Hari’s most recent novel is the fascinating Red Pill. Paul and Hari dig deep into the inspirations for this novel, talking philosophy, Hari’s time in Germany, and much more in their thoughtful and engaging conversation. Hari unpacks the striking cover of Red Pill and talks to Paul about the themes of identity and the self that permeate the novel. Paul and Hari discuss how Hari had to try to hold back his f...
On episode 210 of The Quarantine Tapes, guest host Alex Vitale is joined by the brilliant Derecka Purnell. Derecka is the author of the newly-released Becoming Abolitionists: Police, Protests, and the Pursuit of Freedom. Derecka and Alex have an incredible conversation about abolition and organizing. Derecka talks about her own background and how she came to the abolition movement. She celebrates the many incredible campaigns working for abolition and justice in her hometown of St. Louis. Dereck...
On episode 209 of The Quarantine Tapes, Paul Holdengräber is joined by Forrest Gander. A poet with an incredible body of work, Forrest talks with Paul about grief, translation, and the challenge and importance of being able to share joy in times of suffering. Paul and Forrest have a beautiful discussion on poetry, the environment, and much more, touching on the work of Barry Lopez, Jack Gilbert, and Bertolt Brecht. Forrest reads poems from his recent books, Be With and Twice Alive and explains h...
On episode 207 of The Quarantine Tapes, guest host Lena Herzog is joined by journalist Chris Hedges. Author of War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning and America: The Farewell Tour, Chris joins Lena to discuss the pandemic and the other challenges of this moment in history. Chris and Lena break down the ultimatum given to us by the pandemic. They dig deep into the history of war, the current state of the media, and the threats facing us from a collapsing environment. Their conversation is steeped ...
Paul Holdengräber is joined by the brilliant Melvin Gibbs on this episode of The Quarantine Tapes.
Paul Holdengräber is joined by Lisa Fancher on episode 205 of The Quarantine Tapes
On episode 203 of The Quarantine Tapes, guest host Jacqueline Novogratz is joined by Tim Brown. Tim is the chair of the design company IDEO.
On episode 202 of The Quarantine Tapes, Paul Holdengräber is joined by Nato Thompson. Nato’s most recent project is The Alternative Art School , an online arts program launched in 2020. Paul and Nato talk in depth about Nato’s history in the art world and this thrilling new endeavor. Nato explains what excites him about the possibilities this online-only school creates and discusses their mission to approach art as a life project. They discuss some of the artists Nato has worked with, from Trevo...
Paul Holdengräber is joined by Victoria Chang on episode 201 of The Quarantine Tapes.
“Normally my life as a reporter involves a lot of getting on planes, getting on trains, talking to people, going to see things, going to watch people do things in different places, and none of that was possible. There was a necessity to find new ways of reporting and writing and finding something to say.”
“Now that I’m at this new zero--not a new normal, but new zero--what am I going to do from here? Am I really going to tour the country for a net total of $600 every two months? I don’t think I’m going to do that, and I am going to look at different ways to put my art together and to work on it and not feel like I’m completely on the knife’s edge because we’ve been living on the knife’s edge for the last fourteen months.”
“I think about justice in terms of how can we make it possible for people we’ve lost to gun violence and other types of violence to be among their loved ones today?”
“The idea of Are We On Air?...being the Director of Ambience at the Chateau, I meet all these wonderful and great creative minds from all different fields and generations. Being fortunate enough to have the access, to have meaningful conversations with these people...why not record these conversations and share that access and that knowledge with a wider audience?
“We trust the reader. I really feel like we try to meet the reader on an equal footing. We’re exploring the world, we’re exploring material that we’ve only just become familiar with ourselves. And through that adventure, we’re hoping for adventurous readers to join us.”
Paul Holdengräber is joined by Max Levine on episode 194 of The Quarantine Tapes. Max is the co-founder of Nico, the Neighborhood Investment Company in Los Angeles. Paul and Max talk about the work that Nico does to change the dynamics of property ownership and local investment within neighborhoods. They discuss Nico’s model of investment and how it differs from traditional investment models. Max emphasizes the relationship to the community in Nico’s work and their desire for the people in a nei...
On episode 193 of The Quarantine Tapes, Paul Holdengräber is joined by Wallace Shawn. They talk about socialism, podcasting, and much more in their fascinating and wide-reaching conversation. They discuss Wallace’s essay, “Why I Call Myself a Socialist,” from his book, Essays. Wallace tells Paul about his upcoming endeavors into podcasting and they discuss the joys of podcasts and the human voice. Wallace shares from some of his recent projects, including a streaming production of Waiting for Go...
“History is meant to combat silence, but I think being a poet, you sometimes need to work with silence. You sometimes need to represent it.”