Ep 188: How to Overcome Money Drama (Midlife Drama #2 of 3)

It's about having the clarity , self-confidence and unstoppable belief to go after and get everything you want . If you'll come with me , I'll show you how Well . Hello , friend . I hope you had an amazing week Before we get into today's episode . I hope you had an amazing week Before we get into today's episode .

I feel like I need to do a little caveat here and ask for forgiveness in advance . I have been very ill all week . Didn't have COVID , although I thought I did . I took like two tests , but anyway I had the worst upper respiratory infection and it is still with me . I feel fine , but I sound like the male version of myself .

So throughout this episode I will be sounding more like my inner Carl than Carla . So I apologize , it's not going to sound like me and I'm sorry . I almost didn't do it . I almost sort of re -ran an old episode and I thought , nope , I've got something I want to talk about . So I hope you bear with me , so forgive me for the voice , anyway , today .

Well , first of all , last week we talked about drama , and we talked specifically about time drama , and in that episode it was this idea that there's two opposites rubbing against each other and creating this angst in our life .

So this idea of I'm getting older and I don't have as much time as I thought I did , and so I better get going , is rising up inside of us and it's pushing against the opposite , which is this what's the point in trying to do X , y , z to better my life in whatever way it is we're dreaming of , because I'm too old or it's too late or any of the other

two excuses that we have , and fill in the blank with your own . We all have it Right , and that's what I meant by the drama phrase , by time drama is that , you know , we do all only have so much time on the planet and so much time in a day or a work week or a month or whatever .

But we make it all worse by making the ticking clock louder because of the things that we're telling ourselves , the stories that we're telling ourselves . So in that episode last week , I challenged you with hey , we're still at mid-year .

Let's forget about our whole life and all the crazy things we tell ourselves at mid-life and let's just talk about we've got , you know , 25 last week , 25 weeks this week , 24 weeks left in the year . That's a lot of time to do something with . What do you want to do ? And I challenged you to pick something .

So if you started the year with your goals and listen , I used to get all crazy about time too . I thought about it in this very weird way . I won't go into it on this episode , but I had a lot of drama around time and we all do it midlife in our own unique ways , but I think I've had some of it my whole life .

Right , I've always been in a hurry to do the things I want to do and I always had this feeling like it was like chasing me down and I just didn't have enough time . So I've been working a lot on that myself and what has helped me is to constrain my focus around time .

Forget about the rest of your life for a minute and just do what I challenged you to do in last week's episode , which is just focus on the next 24 weeks and pick one thing . Don't take your laundry list of 20 things that you were dreaming of . Pick one , make it big enough to make it interesting that you have to strive for it a little bit .

But you know , go after it , and I offered a lot of advice last week on how to do that . So I , if you haven't listened to it , I really invite you to go back . I thought it was a good one .

I wasn't feeling my best so I had a lot of stops and starts , so , apologies , that wasn't my best episode and the reason why I discovered a day later was because I was getting sick , so I could not think I was so foggy . Anyway , I could have sworn it was COVID , because I swear I had some weird taste bud things that happened this week .

Like I can't taste anything now , but the tests were all negative . Anyway , I digress , but anyway I encourage you to go back and listen to that , because a stilted and not as great of an attempt stylistically as I might've hoped on that podcast .

I do feel like it's worth going there because it is something we all have this time drama thing , and I feel like constraining down and picking one thing and just focusing on the rest of this year . It's a good way to prove to yourself that you know what .

If you can actually accomplish that thing in 24 weeks , what in the world can you do with the next 24 years , right ? Or the next 34 years or 44 years ? We have plenty of time , so we all just need to relax and think of it as this little demon that's chasing us down , which is kind of how I always thought about it .

So , anyway , that episode actually inspired me to enlarge the topic of drama , because I started thinking when I was done with it . I thought , oh boy , there's lots of drama that happens in midlife , right ?

And so today we're going to talk about something that I've never talked about on the podcast before , but I do think it's central to our well , it is central to our career , but it's also a big thing for pretty much everyone at midlife in some way or another . There's some way that this is having an impact on you .

And today we're going to talk about money drama , and I feel like when I say the word money , it should be followed by a dun , dun , dun . It's like it's a thing . You know , money is a thing , and so we are going to talk about why is that and where does it come from . Why is money such a universally weird thing for most of us ?

Then we're going to talk about how does it hold us back from the things we actually want to do , how does it impact us , All the ways that money can weigh us down .

And then , lastly , we're going to close by talking about like what's a new way to kind of , you know , think about it and and how to kind of move on from here and not make money such a central , dramatic issue in your life . So I'm happy you joined today and let's dive in .

So the first part I want to talk about is like what are most of the money things and the money drama that happens to us at midlife ? And I really think it's a lot of things Like money dramas . There are so many I can't talk about them all right now , but just universally for almost everyone sitting at , let's say , between the ages of 40 and 60-ish .

That's what I define as midlife . Well , first of all , money is central to your career . So , if you're like me , I was always very ambitious . I had a fire in my belly right and , like I said , I always had this feeling of something's chasing me down right . I could never run fast enough .

There was always something bigger , like I might just accomplish something huge , and I was the person that was like , okay , what's the next thing ? I never like gave myself two seconds to like figure out . Oh well , let's just sit for just a moment and enjoy this one , right ? And that's a whole other podcast we can talk about later .

But you know the same thing with money . It's like , even though I , you know , I've talked about my non-traditional background or whatever , I graduated college a little bit older and started my career older . So I think that's where that time demon chasing me down was . I've got to catch up and I could never like catch up because I just had a different path .

Right , I finally come to terms with that . But , good Lord , it made the first , you know , 20 years of my career absolutely insane from an intensity perspective . And I did that to myself , right ? But for all of us , if we're sitting between 40 and 60 , there's a lot of stuff going on here .

So , like , many of us have a life that we've built , whatever that looks like for you , and you've got your set of material things and you know and you know . So that's one part of it . You probably also have many of us . You will have a family . Some will have children , children who , by the time you're at midlife , in many cases are getting older .

They might be in their teen years , they might even be in college . You know , you may or may not be funding that , but there may or may not be worries in the household around that .

And then you probably , if you're lucky , also still have your parents and they're aging and they may or may not have prepared well for retirement , so you might be helping them too . There are also , as you get older in midlife , there's lots of fun things that start to happen .

I always like to say 50 is the gift that keeps on giving , because there's just about every freaking way you know it will remind you in the morning you're 50 . Whether it's you looking in the mirror and thinking , hmm , that doesn't look the way it used to look .

Or you know , just in the past year , my right knee from my days of gymnastics and cheerleading and stuff you know , hobbling around on a rainy day because I have early stage arthritis in my right knee , so never knew that , never had a problem . Can't wear high heels anymore until I get that fixed .

So there's things that happen to us around money and in life and lots of demands coming in , and I think , of course , what is central to your career more than money ? Right , we change jobs to make more money .

We go to our boss with our hat in hand and ask for more money , like we work and strive to do an amazing job so we can get promoted and make more money . Right , and it's because money pays for our life .

And I can tell you , like for many of us , even those of us who've been blessed to , like I will say to me and I'm not saying this from a bragging perspective , because I was not raised with a silver spoon in my mouth and I didn't have any influential my parents , did not have any influential friends that could open doors for me , so it was the school of

hard knocks is where this podcast is coming from . So if that's you , I get it and that's I'm here to help you Because it can all be done and I feel like I'm living proof of that . I make way more now than I ever dreamed possible , like even in my biggest dreams , right and so .

But still , I look at not my money from a place of lack , but I look at my rate of savings as I'm off pace , like that's my money drama , like there's so many ways it can be . It can be I'm not making enough money . It's like it can be I'm not saving enough money . It can be I don't have enough saved , I'm going to end up living under a bridge .

There's so many ways , these things , that you know . When you're in your 20s or your 30s you think , well , I'm not making a lot right now , or I'm not saving anything in my 401k or enough in my 401k or whatever it is , and you think , oh , I've got time to figure that out later . Like , let me worry about today's problem first .

Right , but there comes a day and it's different for all of us . For some of us it's hopefully early . Like I hope , if you're 20 , please open a 401k or a retirement account and start putting it away , because every penny , every $100 you save there turns into hundreds of thousands by the time you're 65 .

So please do that if you're young and listening to this podcast . But if you're 40 , you're thinking I'd love to save and I know I need to save and I don't have enough saved , but I do have mouths to feed and maybe my partner just lost their job or whatever .

So there's all this stuff , very real life , stuff that happens with money and things we tell ourselves about it . So that's really why I wanted to talk about it today and just a few stats I wanted to share lest you think you're by yourself here .

There was just a study came out from Prudential , just I think it was in June yeah , so it's last month and it was talking about midlife and it was specific to 55-year-olds , because now the clock has just started ticking for 55 year olds on a traditional retirement age right , but it's saying that the average 55 year old in the United States has less than $50,000

in retirement savings . And coupled with that sobering statistic , another fun stat is we are the first generation without most of us , a defined pension , and in the United States we have something called social security . We contribute to that , our employer contributes to that . If we're self-employed , we contributed at a different rate to that

. It's basically a trust fund on a nationalized basis and when we get to our official quote , unquote retirement age , which is late 60s although God knows like it'll probably end up being in 70s pretty soon , you know it's saying that it's going to default in another 11 years , meaning not that there won't be any . It just means it will not pay out at 100% .

So this is the first generation that's facing the fact that they probably , unless something major is done , won't have the full 100% that they should have , based on what they paid into and what they were assured and promised they would have . So that's a very sobering set of statistics . Two-thirds of 55-year-olds fear outliving their savings right .

Living under a bridge , having to be a burden to their children , like very real fears there , but no one's , I think we're all aware by this age . No one's coming in to rescue us . So we're worried about it and for me , something near and dear to my heart women have less than a third the savings of men in this country .

I hope it's not that way worldwide , but these are United States statistics and the truth of the matter is that when we're worried about money , we are more likely to struggle with mental health issues , anxiety , fear , sadness , shame , self judgment , and it can really do a number on our you know self image .

That's a lot of stats to throw at you and a lot of kind of setup to say money is a thing at midlife , and I thought it was important to talk about money drama today , and when I say money drama , what I'm really talking about is where does all of this stuff around money come from ?

Because there are many , many , many people , and I'm very happy for you , if you're listening , and you're one of those who end up in midlife and they've got plenty of money saved . I'm even hearing about really young people . I can't remember what I was listening to the other day , but there was this young man and he was talking about that .

He opened up his IRA when he was like 16 and earned his first money at doing newspapers or working at McDonald's or whatever it was . And it's like my God , I wish that had been me . I was working my whole life too . I was spending all of's . Like my God , like I wish that had been me . Like I was working my whole life too .

I was spending all of my money doing something fun with it , buying clothes or whatever I wanted to do . I had no throwing it around . You know , like what do they say ? A drunken sailor , like I was having fun with my money , and there's nothing wrong with having fun with your money .

But wow , the wise soul or the great guidance from his parents to say , hey , just take $500 of that and put it in a thing and don't touch it . That's 500,000 , probably by the time you retire . But there's a lot of people that are guided well with money and don't have a lot of drama around money .

I don't think they're in the majority , but they're out there . If you're listening and you're one of them , fantastic . But for many of us we were not guided well because maybe the people who raised us didn't live an abundant life . I mean , I'm very proud of my parents and of the way I was raised , but my dad worked for the government . He was a postmaster .

He worked for the US Postal Service and had a great pension , by the way , that took care of them in retirement very nicely . But you know he didn't make that much money and there were four children and my mom didn't work . So that tells you like we were not raised in the lap of luxury .

So that tells you like we were not raised in the lap of luxury and people who come from a background where you're not rolling in the dough , you know , or the land of plenty . It's like you know you end up being taught things either through observation or maybe things that you hear , that might include things like this Money doesn't grow on trees .

Rich people are evil . Making money is hard . You have to struggle , you have to sacrifice to make money . There's never enough money . We can't afford that . Don't be selfish . There's more to life than money . Or don't talk about money . Those kinds of things are what I'm talking about .

That's the genesis of where it comes from , and those things begin , like almost everything else we have going on in our life at this stage , in our family of origin , before the age of five . That's when it all starts . Now some of us can undo it like we can have influences and all that stuff is great , but that's where the seed starts right .

And the truth of the matter is that if you have these big goals and big dreams , or even if you just want to have a nice peaceful , what I would call rich life and rich when I say the word rich doesn't mean you know you're driving a Ferrari and you know have five homes .

It means you have the life that you want and that it's got dimension to it and you can do the things you want and you're not spending all your time worried about you know whether or not there's ever going to be enough , right , if we want to have a rich life , meaning you know the life that we're dreaming of , that's free of having to worry about where our

next meal is going to come from . Or you know our ability to actually pay for the things that we want to do with our life , or , heaven forbid , you know , being a burden on people that we love to take care of us because we didn't take care of ourselves and our money needs .

We have to change the relationship that we have with money , and that starts with addressing some of the beliefs that were all the way in , like programmed in , in our early days . And you may not be in touch with us . You may be very in touch with us . A lot of us aren't . A lot of us just think hey , listen , my issue with money is I work really hard .

I haven't gotten a raise in five years , inflation is at a record pace , I'm upside down on my mortgage who knows what you're telling yourself about it . And those are very real things . I'm not saying they're not right .

Listen , in this country , women still make I can't remember the stat , but it's not one for one in terms of a dollar that men make , and so that's not . I'm not belittling that . I'm not saying that's not real . It is real . And so I'm not saying that we can just pretend that's not an issue and move on with our life .

But what I'm saying is , given all of the very real things that we have to deal with around money and there are real things we have obligations , we have things you know , multiple conflicting priorities , like maybe one of us loses our job you know like there's lots of things that go on you still have to create a healthy , abundant relationship with money , because

that is the key to creating the rich life that you want . And the first thing you know at the heart of it is you do have to know what are you thinking about ? Money , like what is in there . What are the stories you've heard people tell you about money ? They're created when we're children .

We learn them through family , culture , society , people telling you over and over again no , you can't do that , there's not enough money , right ? These are normal thoughts that people have about money and they're common across society , and even you know the different stratas of society .

Even people who you know we would , you who , when I was young , would have looked at and thought they were very wealthy , they still have their own burdens to bear around their beliefs around money . But these beliefs are a choice . They just don't feel like it because they were programmed in when we're so young .

Those thoughts all get stored away and we think that they're true because our young mind took them in , probably again and again and again and again , for the first 18 years of our life that we're in that home . And now here we are , because we didn't actually deprogram ourselves and decide what we want to believe around money . Well , you do get to decide now .

I'm giving you permission . I'm asking you to do that . Some common money stories you might have I'm just bad with money . I can't save . I can't make enough money . There's a cap on what I can earn in my industry . I feel guilty because I've overspent and I have too much debt .

I don't want anyone to know that I'm struggling with my money , have too much debt . I don't want anyone to know that I'm struggling with my money . I'll never have enough money . Those are very common and you just need to take a look at what are your stories around money .

And one of the best ways to do that is not right now , but when this podcast is done . I encourage you to just take out a spiral notebook or open a Google doc and just write money at the top of the page . And I want you to just sit for a moment and let your mind clear .

And then I want you to write down everything that comes up when you look at money , or if there's some part of money that you worry about the most like . For me , it's my pace of savings . That's more my Carla today money drama . But yours might be your level of debt .

Yours might be how much you earn you know in your current job , like there's lots of different ways in . Maybe it could be your ability to help your parents pay for your kids' college and fund your retirement , like we all have our own . Get clear on what your version is .

Write that at the top of the page and then write down everything that comes up and my rules for that . We call it a thought , download one sentence per line and just keep writing and when you think you're done however long that is it might be two lines , it might be 15 pages I want you to sit quietly and ask yourself what else ? Is there anything else ?

You want to get every thought you have on the topic down on paper and it sounds like . When I first heard this I thought this whole thing on the thought download sounds like a complete waste of time . But I will tell you , it is the complete opposite of that .

It is the most important thing you can do , and the reason why is because our human mind can trick us and we can think we know what we're thinking about something , but we don't really know and we're not really clear when it all stays in the ether of our brain , because it tricks us and there's things hidden in our subconscious , there's things that are hiding

there , lurking underneath the surface , that might come out in moments of snap judgment or responding to something or whatever , but it's like it's something that we wouldn't really necessarily acknowledge .

But when you're doing a thought download and you're really working on getting everything written down on the page , and then you go back and you read it and you're like where did that come from ? Like , whose voice is that ? Like sometimes I'll do that , I'll be like that doesn't even sound like me .

And when I think that thought , I'll think well , whose voice does it sound like ? Right , cause , that's probably where it came from . So it's like getting that clarity is critically important because you can't know where you're at , or clear it up until you get clear .

And if you really still feel like you can't get to the heart of it , here's my thing to you your current financial status will give you the exact idea of what your past thoughts about money have been .

If it is not where you want it to be , for whatever reason , there's a story there that you've been telling yourself about that we don't just arrive at a place in our life in any respect , and money is no different .

So our money story that we've had our whole life that began at the beginning has come with us all the way through , and all of those thoughts that we've had about money and the beliefs that we've had have circled again and again and again , and that's created those emotions of shame and judgment and self-blame and not enoughness and all the stuff right .

And those have created our actions right , which might include things like not saving , not taking the time to understand your current financial situation , not paying your bills on time or , you know , maybe overspending , whatever .

We all have our different things right , and so if you really feel like you're struggling to understand what your thoughts around money are , or whether you have a healthy relationship or not . The best way to gauge that is to say am I happy with where I sit right now ?

And if you don't , if you're not happy , then you know that there is a money story lurking there and it's worth doing the work of the thought download . It might take you a while .

Do it two or three times . Get all of those thoughts out on paper . It's like wringing all of the water out of a wet dishcloth . That's how I like to think of a thought download . It's basically saying get it all out on the page , look at it , because once those things are written down , that sets you free . They're no longer up in your mind .

You get to decide is that thought making me feel something I want to feel ? If it makes you feel like crap , then no , that is not a thought you want to hang on to . What is a new thought that you could decide to choose , because it is that easy and it is that complicated .

Right , you can change your money story , but the heart of it is you got to get clear on what that story is . So that's the first thing Do a thought download , get clear on your story . What are the things you were told ? And you know what are all those things you know . The second thing is know what you want .

So at midlife , you know there's a lot of things I want . Like , if you ask me that question , what do you want ? It's like around money , it's like I don't know .

I want to go to Paris next year and I want to , but at the heart of my thing , what I want the most is there's a certain number that I want to get to as a baseline and my pace of savings . So I look at that rate for me and that is , for me , my number one thing . You need to decide for you what is your number one thing .

What is the one thing you could do for yourself , a goal that you could have around money at midlife , right here where you sit , that's tangible and that if you were to go after that and stay focused on that and achieve that , would check a lot of boxes for you and create a feeling of you know , ease and confidence and stuff like that .

And if you could get that goal , if you know what you want , then I think taking a look at that thought download number three would be taking a look at that thought download that you did and look for those really limiting beliefs that are pushing against , directly against , that goal that you just set for money . That's the one thing .

Don't set five goals on money , pick one and then look at that list of negative beliefs and say , oh well , this is why it's been hard for me to get that goal , because I don't have a lot of good thoughts in there , maybe none around money , or maybe you have some , maybe you just have a few icky thoughts in there , whatever it is , and then decide what are

a couple of thoughts that you could decide to have ready to pull out and replace . The next time you hear yourself telling yourself you know being judging people around money or being mean to yourself about money , or you know blaming yourself or shaming yourself around money . You could have a couple of new , powerful , abundant thoughts that could take its place .

That would be probably the most important thing . And then the last part of it I just want you to challenge yourself to dream a little bit . I feel like it's fine to be like back to the goal I asked you to set around money . It's fine to be pragmatic with it .

I'm a big fan of setting goals that you can reach , but I think sometimes at midlife , we dream too small . So I'm going to give you permission to set a second goal , maybe a stretch goal . Right , I feel like it's really important to allow yourself to dream big . So what's a baseline goal that you could set and focus on that ?

If you got that , you would feel great about it , and then you know . The last thing I want to leave you with is how do you expand your beliefs around what's possible ? Around money Not for everyone . For you at midlife , whether you are 40 , 50 , 60 , 70 , or older , what do you want to achieve ? Still around money ?

Is it about enabling the life of your future ? Around money ? Is it about enabling the life of your future ? Is it about the things you want to give back ? What is it and what could you do to stretch yourself and make yourself just a little bit uncomfortable ? That you have to start pushing yourself to believe that you might be able to .

You know , I'll just throw something out there . This is a career focused podcast . All right , let's say you're 60 . Most people in America , anyway , many of your friends probably are already retired . Maybe you're planning to work till 67 , maybe a little bit older .

What if you lost your job and you're sitting here worried , very real worry about am I ever going to get another job , ever going to replace my job ? Your goal around money might be okay . What are a couple of ways that I could start bringing money in today ?

Those might not be your dream thing , but you need to go do them so you can take care of yourself while you're finding your next thing . But I want you to allow yourself to stop the soundtrack of I'm 60 . I don't have the big paying job anymore . I may not get another job because I'm too old and all the crap we tell ourselves about that .

I want you to actually set a very expanded goal of what if you could make 20 or 30% more than your last highest paying job ? 20 or 30% more than your last highest paying job ? You can still do that as a corporate person without your own business at 60 plus .

I promise you I know people who've done it it's not impossible and that's a really great example of a way to really set a stretch goal for yourself . Really set a stretch goal for yourself . Don't settle for the safe thing and just settle for reaching for that .

Reach for that if that is good enough to get you to a level of comfort with money , but dream a little bigger and believe that it is all possible for you still , because the truth is that it is .

I want to leave you with a few thoughts here that I just want to challenge you with as you think about changing your relationship with money , or your thoughts you're telling yourself about money . Money is not the most important thing in life , but it pays for your life . It's the enabler of everything that you want . So it is not a measure of your self-worth .

It does not make you better or worse than anyone else , no matter what your relationship with money is or where you're at with money . It is the fuel in your gas tank . It is the super highway to your goals and dreams . It's just an enabler . It's fuel in the furnace , that's it , and so there's no reason to have all of this crazy drama around money .

People that have money are not evil people . People that have money , you know , and spend a lot of money . Don't judge them . Change your orientation , be happy for them .

The universe is a wealthy , abundant place , and when we start changing our mindset around money , money can start chasing us instead of us chasing money , and I'm not saying I'm never going to be that person that you know money is like the most important thing , but I share , probably , your concern . I just I want to be able to take care of myself .

I want to be able to do the things I want to do , and for all of us , our bar is in a different place on that right , and so that's kind of how I look at it .

I am on Instagram , I follow some of these like influencers and you know some of the ones that do fashion or hair or whatever and then , like , as I'm recording this right now , the Nordstrom anniversary sale is on and like I don't know about you , but I've been so sick I've been two days late , all you know , getting to the sale .

So my wishlist that I filled up my cart with is probably like all sold out . That's the way the Nordstrom sale rolls . But I will say , like I see all these young people out there buying all these like thousands of dollars worth of merchandise and I don't look at them with any envy . I literally was watching one this morning .

She looked like she was having so much fun and I thought , good for you . Like this is your the way that she makes money , right ? Is people like me that follow her . If we buy that thing , we click on her link and she makes part of that . That's fantastic , like if that's of interest to you .

That's a great way to make some money , right , and I think , a low effort , fun way . But it's like , my point is don't carry a lot of drama around money with you . Don't look at yourself in a bad way , don't look at other people in a bad way .

Think of money as the fuel in your furnace and the gas in your tank and depending on how far you want to go or how high up you want to go , that's how much gas you need in the tank .

It's literally that pragmatic and if you can change your relationship around that and expand your possibilities , that it's actually still possible for you , no matter how old you are , no matter if you just got laid off on Friday . It's like believe that it's possible , it will be possible , right .

And then you know , pick that money goal and align your actions around that and go do it . Go get it done , one tiny little micro step at a time . That is how it's done . So I want to leave you with a couple of quotes on money , because I found some good ones , and the first one is money will always match your mindset . That's from Dr Joe Vitale .

And then the last one that I'll leave you with is from Dave Ramsey . He's a very well-known thought leader who talks a lot about money and living debt-free . I'm not advocating his approach , I'm just saying he's looked up to as an expert in space . He says that rich isn't an amount of money , it's a mindset about how you live .

If you believe you can win , you can . And that's from Dave Ramsey . So I hope you enjoyed this episode around money drama , but it resonated with you If you're at midlife I know it does with almost everyone in our own unique way and if you are a regular listener of this podcast . I just want to take a moment to thank you for listening .

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