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Introducing ‘The Protocol’

May 30, 20254 min
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Summary

Since 2021, nearly half of U.S. states have banned medical treatments for transgender minors, with the Trump administration and Supreme Court also targeting this care. This episode introduces 'The Protocol,' a new series from The New York Times investigating the complex story of youth gender medicine—its origins, purpose, and the escalating legal and political fights shaping its future. Join reporters as they explore the history, medical aspects, and political entanglement of this critical issue.

Episode description

Since 2021, nearly half the states in the U.S. have passed bans on medical treatments for transgender minors. The Trump administration is now targeting the care, and in the coming weeks, the Supreme Court is expected to weigh in.

“The Protocol” is the story of youth gender medicine — where it came from, who it was meant to help, and what may come next in the legal and political fights over its future.

Transcript

With a stroke of my pen on day one we're going to stop the transgender lunacy. I am so hated for just existing and being who I am. It will henceforth be the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders, male and female. How has this impacted us? It was already not a safe place. But now we feel like asylum seekers in our own country. And now I want Congress to pass a bill permanently banning.

and criminalizing sex changes on children and forever ending the lie that any child is trapped in the wrong body. This is a big lie. absolutely saved my life. It's only been about two decades since trans and gender nonconforming kids in the U.S. have been able to get medical treatment to transition. Now, The federal government is looking to end it. And the Supreme Court is expected to rule on the issue in the coming weeks. If the treatment's barred...

Some kids will suffer because they can't access the treatment. If the treatment is allowed, some kids will suffer who get the treatment and later wish they hadn't. And then the question becomes. How does the court choose which group? You do not have the right to abuse your kids. I'm scared for myself, for my own health care. There's not enough evidence.

Put our children out on a huge experiment. If they cannot get treatment, children will die. These treatments do much more harm than good. Trans kids are under attack. What do we do? We are not going to rest until every child is protected, until trans ideology is entirely erased from the earth. We are trans people. We are trans human. And we will never be eradicated.

So are you going to be able to bring that inside? No. I don't think so. This is a story of how we got here. It's a story I've been reporting with my colleague Azeen Goreshi. a science and gender reporter for nearly two years. And it's a story she's been reporting for much longer. We have so much ground to cover with her. And from the beginning, she's been telling me this is not just a story about politics. Just getting into the history and... It's a story about medicine.

About a new kind of treatment for a small group of kids. I was the first to put on blockers, on all my blockers. How it was meant to help. Because of him. How it was codified into a protocol that spread around the world. They taught me the ropes and then trusted me to bring this to our country and try to make it work. And how, in the time since, the medicine and the politics. have become impossibly entangled. Conservative states want to just, you know, be done with trans people altogether.

And when reports come out that show this two-sided thing and the skepticism and the fact there's no evidence, this just adds steel to their fire. Coming soon from the New York Times. The protocol.

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