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How To Move From Career Complancy to Passion-Driven Success With Special Guest Nancy Yeager

Jan 23, 202439 minSeason 4Ep. 222
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Ever felt like the quest for perfection is more of a curse than a blessing, especially when it comes to your career and emotional well-being? Join us as we navigate these treacherous waters, with Nancy Yeager, the entrepreneurial spirit behind two Fleet Feet stores, guiding us through her inspiring transition from a stable job to a fulfilling career aligned with her passions. 

Also in this episode, we tackle the cold realities of staying active in winter and discuss the vital importance of finding purpose in our work, all while celebrating Nancy's success and dedication to helping others reach their goals. 

So, lace up your favorite running shoes, grab a pair of earbuds, and let’s explore this episode together.

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Exploring Emotional Health and Career Transitions

Speaker 1

Hey friends , welcome to the Problem with Perfect . What is the Problem with Perfect ? It's the myth that if we just do more , be more and have more , our lives will be perfect . I'm Robin May , a journalist , wife , mother and , most days , a faith-filled Christian .

Speaker 2

And I'm Denise Bickel , a clinical therapist , educator , mom Mimi and spirit-filled follower . As recovering perfectionists , we promise to be transparent and real and to share the wisdom of trusted advisors and guests .

Speaker 1

So pull up a chair and have a seat . There's always a place for you at our table . Welcome back to another episode of the Problem with Perfect . We're in the dead of winter here in Missouri , right ?

Speaker 2

Well , Denver is sending it your way . It's already here .

Speaker 1

It couldn't be any colder Between last week's episode and this week episode . I did make history . Thank you very much . I went to the coldest chiefs game in history recorded . It was , I think , minus four kickoff and it only got better from there . That was regular temperature , not wind chill .

So one of the things I hate about the cold is that it keeps me from running outside .

Really , yeah , when it gets super cold like this and when we've had precipitation and you know exactly know what's on the road between the potential for falling and hurting myself and the cold weather , yeah , a couple of years ago I just decided if it's 10 or below , I can just stay inside . So there you go . That's my but .

I say all of that because it leads us right into our conversation today and I'm so excited about what we're gonna talk about and that our guests . So let me just help jump us into that . And this is our second installment of our new series , a series really focusing on the new year and issues related to spiritual , physical and our emotional well-being .

And last week we chatted with Beth Bromstead , who is a spiritual leader here in the Columbia community , and she so graciously gifted us with her wisdom and our candid thoughts on some practical ways to connect with God in a more meaningful way in 2024 .

So I hope , if you haven't listened to that episode that you'll get to , because Beth was super insightful and we're thankful that she shared that with us , amen .

Speaker 2

This week , we shift our focus from our spiritual health to our emotional health . One thing that dramatically impacts our mental and emotional well-being is our jobs .

Whether you're a CEO in a tenured career , a new grad trying to make your mark , or a stay-at-home mom trying to keep your sanity and the household afloat , our jobs help us feel a sense of purpose and satisfaction . They can also make us feel challenged and fulfilled , or they can make us think there must be more to life .

As another year starts , some of us will find ourselves questioning the future of our careers , asking questions like how many more years do I have to do this ? Isn't there something more meaningful for me to do in my life ? Or I think I can contribute to the world in a more meaningful way , but what does that even look like ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , and our guest today . She's here to inform and , I'll just say , inspire us when we find ourselves contemplating what's next . She's an entrepreneur who left the comfort of a study paycheck to do something bigger , something that requires her to write the paychecks instead of receiving them .

She's also someone completely dedicated to keeping health and fitness at the forefront of her life and helping others to do the same , which is why I said she's the perfect guest for this episode . So who is she ? She is Nancy Yeager .

She's the owner of two fleet feet stores , which are a part of a national franchise of specialty running , walking and fitness stores that are found across the country . She opened the Columbia Missouri store in 2017 , and it was just named are you ready for it ? One of the top 50 running stores in the country by Running Insights Magazine .

Wow , what an accomplishment . And building on this success , nancy and her team recently opened a second location in Jefferson City . Beyond all that , nancy is a lifelong runner . She's an Ironman triathlete . She was the head coach for the Stevens College Cross Country Team for five seasons , until the summer of 2019 .

She's also a USAT level one certified coach , was the founder of Tiger Endurance Company , which is a youth triathlon team in Columbia and was one of the founders of the Heart of Missouri Girls on the Run . So I love how Nancy just loves helping others reach their goals and we are so honored to have her on the podcast . So thank you for joining us .

Speaker 3

You're welcome . Thank you for inviting me .

Speaker 2

I'll start with a fun fact . My first pair of running shoes were purchased at Fleet Feet in St Peter's Missouri , 30 years ago , so Fleet Feet has been a great friend to runners for a really long time . I can attest to that .

For those who are unfamiliar with Fleet Feet , can you tell us a little bit about the company and why you were prompted to start this entrepreneurial adventure ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , it is a franchise , like Robin said , and we have stores across the nation . I know it's more than 260 now .

We were the last one to open in 2023 , our Jefferson City location but they have big goals , so they've been expanding a lot and we are a store that's known for our fit process , and that's one of the reasons I chose to be a Fleet Feet is because I actually had issues years ago . It was probably about 15 years ago .

I had turf toe , I had gone to the petiah's risk , had steroid shots , had a boot , and finally someone said why don't you go get fit for shoes ? I never , you know , I ran my whole life . No one ever told me until 15 years ago to go get fit for shoes , and once I changed shoes , it all went away . So I totally believe in the process . It helps you .

Everyone's feet are different sizes , shapes , volumes , and I was just wearing a shoe that was really low volume for the type of foot I have .

So that's what we do and that's what we're known for and that's why I , you know , decided to be a Fleet Feet , and one of the decision factors was because it had affected me so much to get fit , so I knew that it would help other people .

Speaker 1

I didn't know that . I love , love , hate . It's always interesting to me when someone's pain becomes their passion , yeah , yeah , so what a what a fine example of that . So , okay , so you've had this issue with your feet , you ? You find something that's out there that you're like .

Man , I'm glad I found this , I want other people to find it , so that's one thing . But but how do you go from there to saying , okay , I'm going to sink a lot of money and a lot of sweat equity into opening up , you know , a store . How do you make that leap ? What prompted you to do that ?

Speaker 3

So it is . It's a kind of a long story . I was in real estate and I was had a real estate career , but I have been a runner my whole life and I love running . I also had already started coaching at Stevens and I found my my real estate job was giving me stress .

So I was getting sick , gaining weight , all these things that were not good for me and I couldn't figure out what it was . And finally a doctor friend said it's stress . And then my friend that owned the local running store that did fits here before I opened Fleet Fleet , found out what was going on and she asked me to run her store for her .

She wanted to move to Montana and she's like do this , you would love it . So it took a lot of praying because it was a 50% pay cut to do this and I did pray . I prayed a lot and God showed me signs and you know what I took it . I took that leap and I never worried about paying my bills . It's just miraculous .

Within a week I lost all the weight I had gained . So it was the stress again and I loved what I was doing . I loved it . So I instantly just fell in love with running running store and I found that this was what I was supposed to do .

So about a year and a half goes into that and she decides she doesn't want to own a store from far away and she told me she wanted to close her store . Well , it just happened . This was the day before I was supposed to leave to go to the trade show for running stores , so I took took that opportunity .

First of all , I told my husband I'm probably opening my own store and he's like , oh my god .

So this trade show talked to other owners that I had , you know , made friends with over the years , not just Fleet Feets and then I did contact my friend who had he had actually bought the Ultramaxon Springfold from the same owners I worked for and made his a Fleet Feet .

So he introduced me to all these people from Fleet Feet , these other owners of Fleet Feet , and I , you know I really did my homework , but I basically was in the airport to fly home and was already calling real estate agents to find my space .

So , and a friend of mine tells me all the time , this was the path that God wanted you to take to get where you are . So , yeah , sorry , it makes me emotional , because I still like if I hadn't listened and prayed about it , you know where would I be .

Speaker 2

I wouldn't be here . Yeah , whoa , that's the best business plan I've ever heard .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it was amazing . Some of the signs he gave me were so out there . It could only have been him so yeah .

Speaker 1

Well , I appreciate your boldness to share that , because I think so many times , you know , you would listen to a story like that and kind of , actually , nancy , what I expected you to say was well , I sat down , you know , my husband , and we put pen to paper and a calculator and it wasn't like that , you know , and so I appreciate your boldness to share that

and that you just felt this leading and this prompting and this complete confidence that it was going to work .

Speaker 3

Yeah , Well , I mean , that's what ? When he showed me I could pay my bills on 50% what I was making in real estate , then that kind of proved to me that , like he had me .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and to be less stressed and healthy , yes , and to help other people , you know achieve those goals too . I think you know , when you're doing the right thing for the right purpose , you know it works out . Yeah , so you mentioned your husband . Is this a family , owned family ?

Speaker 3

No , my husband has a full time job . Very , he's actually in Florida right now at a trade show . He is on the other side of a trade show . He is he sells animal pharmaceuticals , so he's out there talking to veterinarians about buying their products . So no , it is my business , I run it , I do everything and I it's my passion . So he knows that .

You know , at first he was a little scared . Obviously it does . It is a big commitment to open a retail brick and mortar store but he it's . It's kind of crazy because he's seen it grow and then . So when I started talking about Jeff City , I think the only thing that worried him was like my stress level and the busyness of it .

But I've surrounded myself with really good employees that we're sharing the we're sharing that busyness of getting the Jefferson City store going .

Speaker 2

And you mentioned , your daughter works for you as well .

Speaker 3

Yes , so she is in the business , she's our marketing manager and she's a team lead so she helps like she kind of like what we call a shift supervisor . So she's there on some of the shifts and she's the one managing the people and making sure that everything's getting done that needs to be done .

But she her degree is that she's getting right now is marketing at Mizzou , so she really likes that she's hands on and doing it every day and not just learning it in the classroom .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and what a gift . Because unless you , you know , unless you love that , that can just really be a burdensome task , but it's so so , so important , so important .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and I don't know that I wouldn't see . I probably wouldn't see her very much if it weren't for the fact that she works with me , so she's a college student .

Speaker 1

That sounds like a win-win . I love it yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so what has surprised you the most about owning and operating these stores ?

Speaker 3

Oh , wow , Probably that the growth , the percentage of growth that we've had has been outrageous . But we pride ourselves on customer service . So it's word of mouth , but I mean if you would have ever like last January we were up 90% from the January before- Wow .

So that is kind of it's amazing and surprising , but yet also it's challenging because we didn't you don't schedule that many people in January . So yeah , so , and we're with the two stores . If you add them together , we're still up a little bit this month , even though the weather has been challenging this last week .

So that's something that is also surprising me because somewhat , I mean , I've been doing a lot of things to try to make sure that we don't lose the sales from Jeff City , like that it's just growth and that Columbia still stays where it's at . Columbia is not exactly where it was last year , but when you add them together we are still up right now .

So that's been the surprise just how fast we've grown , because managing the other store , I mean that had already been open like 10 years , so I didn't like see all of that so in the beginning . So it's been crazy how fast we've grown and how much the word has gotten out .

Speaker 1

How exciting , love it

Connecting Passion With Purpose

. Yeah , you know , one of the things that I admire about you is that you know your commitment to the running community . It's not just that you help start two organizations for youth athletes , which I think is amazing and I love that , but it goes beyond that to your coaching .

And then also not just like you sell shoes there , you have running events , weekly runs , I guess is the better way to say that .

Right , yeah , so it's about helping people get connected not just to the right pair of shoes or a great pair of socks or sunglasses , which all those things are there , but like to a running community , which I think is so important . Was that your goal on the front end , or is that just morphed into something that you didn't expect or plan on ?

Speaker 3

So that I mean that is part of Fleet Feet . Fleet Feets have that as part of their business plan , is to have the running groups . But that has been something that like I saw that at Ultramax , that we were able to cultivate that and that's how I got back into running after having , you know , been out of it for a while .

After college so was I had went and joined a running group , so I knew how important it was to have friends . The way I got into triathlons was going and doing a training group and some of those people are my best friends now . So I know how important it is and how much to have accountability that it is .

But we also I just want to give back to the community because it's not just the people that come and show up to us , but there's , you know , runs out there that get people active .

They may not come and join our running groups but they might go do Molly's Miles or the Turkey tracks or something like that , because it's , you know , something that their friends are doing and and just helping , you know , make sure that we keep that those type of events going in our community is important to me too .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so it's bigger than just running . Yes , absolutely yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , Well , and for people who can't run but want to be involved , to be able to volunteer or to staff water stations or do the registration or things like that , there's always something for someone to do , regardless of what their athletic level of ability is .

I think , yeah , I mean , we couldn't have runs if people didn't volunteer to to do all those things for us . As you know , map out the course and all of those things .

Speaker 1

Or sure ? Speaking of that , I got asked this past weekend . I got asked for a race director contacting me as a race director from Kansas City , asking me if I would be the cycling lead for the race , and the first of all I was like , yeah , because I'm a cyclist now . But no , no , of course not .

There's no way I could have ride my bicycle in front of the 10 K on on Saturday . No , denise , don't look at me that way . It was . It was so cold and the wind was like 20 miles an hour . I was like no , no , please ask me again . Last week they asked me to do it last week .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that's what I was like . Well , in June that'll be lovely , but it was last week .

Speaker 1

It was last week . They asked me to do it last week which . I'm sure they've asked , had asked every single person that has a bicycle to do it , and they were like there's a crazy woman in Columbia that might do it . But even I said no to that .

Speaker 3

Oh it does take volunteers .

Speaker 1

And , having said that , I did feel bad saying no , but I was like , hmm , can't do it , yeah , so okay .

Speaker 2

So go ahead , Robin .

Speaker 1

Well , I was I . Before I move on , I just want to ask . So you know , I love how you've connected your , your passion with your purpose and even your pain with your passion with your purpose . So what advice would you give to someone who is like just feeling like that stuck that we kind of talked about in our intro and they're contemplating ?

You know , I have this thing that's really special to me and I want to connect that passion with my purpose . Do you have any advice for that person ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , I mean , pray about it is the first thing and then do like I did sit down and make my pros and cons . I'm very much a pros and cons person and I'm very thorough because I don't want to . You can Kathy , who I know . You know who's my manager of my Columbia stores .

She a half jokes with me all the time about how thorough I am with everything I do . But you know , you just make a business plan , write it down , write down your pros and cons , but and share it with friends , because I had some friends that were very , very supportive and they they probably knew what I could do more than I could .

Speaker 1

So that's the best .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you surrounded your yeah .

Speaker 1

Surrounded yourself with people who believed in you and helped you believe in yourself . Absolutely , yep , yeah . And then there's also , I mean , kathy Lee , who has been a loyal listener and supporter of you and I both and all of our crazy ideas . So nice to have people that support your crazy .

Speaker 3

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , for sure . So , nancy , what strengths do you bring to the industry that are different from your male counterparts ?

Speaker 3

Oh , so I think that , as a woman first of all , a majority of our customers are women and as a woman , you guys know you come in and you're a little more self-conscious about things and about your body and about you know what you want to do and your pace and things like that . And as women , we're the first to say , I don't know .

You know , I'm not a runner , like women are the first ones to come in our store and not call themselves runners and it's like but you are a runner , it doesn't matter what your pace is , it doesn't matter , you know how much you're doing or anything like that . So I can see that perspective of it .

Women's Perspective on Running and Safety

And then , as an aging woman , I can see some of the other things too and that , like , my pace has gone down and that it's just what happens to us as we age and it's okay . And it's okay that we have to do some other things sometimes too , that we can't just keep running the amount of miles that we used to do .

We need to cross train by riding our bike or swimming or doing something different , but just having that female perspective because , like I said , a majority of our customers are women and when they come into our training groups . Same thing .

Majority of the people that run with us are women and I think they see that camaraderie once they get in there running with other women , and I love the guys that run with us . There's some really good guys that run with us too , but it's so .

I think it's so important also , you know , to come run with a group to have that accountability , but also to be safe . And also so I bring that perspective too , because a lot of times even my like my husband hasn't said it , but I've heard other people say their husband has no idea , like , what it's like to go out and run and not feel safe .

So , having that perspective of what product should we buy to make sure that women can go out and enjoy their runs and , you know , not not feeling safe about it or feel a little safer . I even saw that when I was coaching at Stevens , like the way guys would look at my college athletes , and I actually said something once . My girls loved me for it .

But I have that perspective of like what is it like to be a woman out there trying to just take care of yourself but yet you have other things to think about ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , Absolutely yeah , and in doing research for this interview , the number one concern for women in running is safety . Yeah , and you know it can . It can happen in broad daylight , it can happen , you know , when you're on the trail , it can happen when you're on your street , I mean .

There's just so much that I don't think men really , like you said , can appreciate because they don't have those same sorts of fears . Yeah , what challenges have you faced that maybe men haven't experienced in a similar role ?

Speaker 3

Well , I mean , the biggest thing that happens and it and Kathy will tell you this is a big pep , even she's even had someone say something to her is if I have a regional manager that goes back and forth between the two stores and he's a male , and people will come in and assume he's the owner .

And yeah , absolutely , even if they know I'm the owner , they'll just talk to him , like and not acknowledge , and that is to me first of all . That just , oh , it grates on me . Amen , it's true , yeah , cause I've worked hard , I've done a lot of work to get the stores where they are .

And yeah , and I , you know , I try to understand that sometimes that's just still a mentality that's out there but it shouldn't be .

There's lots of women that own running stores and even at the trade show occasionally not very often , but occasionally I still get that feeling with some people at trade shows too , like the , and fleet feats are great because we are about everyone can become a runner and running changes everything , and so we're not that elitist running store and so we don't get

that as much . But you , you still get that a little bit with some vendors and you still , you know , I still get that when people come in and assume that and they've assumed my husband was the owner too before , or even when we're out and about , they'll assume we own the business and they'll talk to him instead of me .

And he's good , I've kind of talked to him about that Like can you like stop ? You know , change that attitude . And you know change that attitude and and like let them know I'm the owner . So he's really been doing good about doing that , so that we can hopefully change that , change that mentality out there that the man is always the one in charge .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , Well , again I'll go back and say what I said before . It's bigger than running . Yeah , yeah , what you're doing is you're like for , for other women in our community and in the world , that we are changing perceptions . Well , you are changing . Yeah , I don't know , but I think it's .

It's a great thing and something that I think that women you're still making a way for other women and it's weird in 2024 that women still have to do that for other women , but it's the reality and so I know , I I appreciate your willingness to do that ,

Perceptions of Women Runners

and I was . I was struck by what you said about the majority of your customers are women , and so , when we think about , according to runner demographics and statistics for the United States , 36% of runners are women , six to almost 64% are men , and the average runner is 44 years old . So , uh , I would wonder , are those ? Are those numbers surprising to you ?

Probably not , cause you know running , but it's surprising to me , given that you said the majority of your customers are are women .

Speaker 3

So the only reason it's not surprising to me is because I think again , women are so reluctant to call themselves runners unless they feel like they are fast or running a lot , and so because I would , in our definition of what a runner is , I would say those numbers are false .

Okay , yeah , just because it is , we sell a lot more women's shoes , like , I just looked at our numbers for last week and it was like 90 some women's shoes and 60 women's shoes . And , yeah , granted , not all of our customers are runners and that's that's .

Fleet feet used to be fleet feet sports and we dropped that because we wanted people to know they could come in when they're just in pain or they're walking or they're just on their feet all day .

But I still just by our running groups and , and you know , having ran my whole life , I you know , I think that's probably why the numbers show what they do , just because there are so many women that won't call themselves a runner .

Speaker 1

That's fascinating . Yeah , I resisted that for a long time . You know , I started running in 2000 . And I remember the first , the first time , like I ran a full mile . It was like , to be honest , it was like a 12 and a half and a mile and and so I ran my mile .

And then I was walking up the hill to our house and I remember telling my husband , tom , I ran a whole mile without stopping . And that was the first time I'd done that since , since , after children , he and I did used to go out and run a little bit , and we I'd be like , okay , take me for a mile , and we'd run a mile .

And then we he'd say , okay , a mile is right up there at that stop sign . And then we get to that stop sign and be like you can go further , and I'd be like , screw you . We said we were stopping at the stop sign . Don't try to do that to me . But I digress .

But I do definitely remember , after childbirth , coming home and saying I ran a mile and in Tom and I having this conversation about when , when can I call myself a runner , like how much do I have to run , how fast does it have to be , how far does it have to be ? You know I started running pretty consistently , but only three miles at a time .

For the longest time I only ran three miles at a time and so , based on what I saw other runners doing , I wasn't really a runner and it was . It was looking back pretty self deprecating , like I was out there doing it for a long time before I could Embrace the fact that I was doing . It just didn't look like I thought it should look .

Speaker 2

Well , look who you're married to . I mean , if you're going to compare yourself to your husband , I guess none of us are runners , but it you know . I do agree that , even back in the day when I started it , just to say you are a runner and people will ask you so , like , you're like , are you a runner or a jogger ? I don't know .

Well now , have you ever done a marathon ? Because it's like well , that makes you a runner , and it's like no , just go sit down Because it is degrading . You know , it's like no , I've been , you know , logging miles for 30 years now .

But I do wonder , and maybe Robin and I should ask ourselves this but what do you think it is about running that attracts women ?

Speaker 3

Well , I think it's . It's one of those activities you can just go out your door and , do you know , it's a little easier than riding a bike or going to the pool to swim and or , you know , walking into a class at the gym for your first time , and so I , you know , I think it's kind of can be like that gateway to getting healthier and more active

Finding Inspiration in Fitness Progression

. And then we see it in our groups like we see people who progress from 5k to 10k to marathon . I have , I even have someone who started our trail running group years ago who now has done a hundred miler , and I love she also met her now husband by trail running . So I always like , take a little bit of . Are you talking about Kim ?

No , it's her name's Heather . Okay , okay , yeah , kim hasn't done a hundred . She even joked today on Facebook of all like who's crazy enough to do 100 miles ?

Speaker 1

Well , yeah , she was on the podcast , so she's a friend of the podcast , so it's going to give her a shout out .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , and she met , yeah , her husband through a running group also . So it is one of those . But I like that .

You see this progression of people like they just say I'm just going to do a 5k and then , like I was a runner who said I want to try a triathlon and I did not swim , denise , before , and now I coach people , which is crazy , and if you would have ever told me I would swim , you know , 2.4 miles in the ocean , I would have laughed at you .

But I did . My first Ironman was in in Florida , and you see this progression and it's awesome because you see them , they're like I can go out my door and do a mile , then I could do two miles and I could do three miles , and then , you know , once they get into a group , then that helps them . I think .

Keep going and believing that they can do further and further .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I agree , I have . All you know . People will always say , well , I don't know how to run , I'm like right foot , left foot , and really . And I will say , the only thing you need is a really good pair of running shoes , that's it . And you lace them up and you hit the door at 530 in the morning or at noon or whenever .

It really is not an expensive sport . So you start signing up for runs . But , yeah , it is very doable and I and I'm glad to hear you're a swim coach , because Robin wants to learn how to swim next- I'm so full of it .

Speaker 3

No , I don't , I specialize in beginners , because I do it with the triathlon training . But yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

Okay . Well then , yes , in my heart , I want to be able to swim .

Speaker 3

It's so good for you Like , it's one of the best cardiovascular workouts you can do , and I'm saying this because I need to go do it more .

Speaker 1

I'm trying to convince myself , I'm just trying to be more confident In my heart is a winner .

This is a good point , cause , like I think you know , like there are people that are listening to this , that's that they're thinking like , oh , I wish I could run , or I wish I was brave enough to go to the , to the gym , or , for me , I wish I could breathe If I knew how to breathe , I would swim .

Speaker 3

Right , that was me , yeah , yeah , you should have Amy live . Say one day about my first time down the pool and she will tell you yeah , I didn't know how to breathe and yeah .

Speaker 1

So what advice would you give to somebody like me and other people that are just like I ?

Speaker 3

just I can't do it yeah it's um , well , I always do like that next goal . So it was , um , I just said I'm gonna do a triathlon and I want to try it . I did have friends who wanted me to try it . Um , so find some friends that are encouraging you , like Denise , but and then find that like beginner group , because it's .

I like coaching the beginner triathlon group because I know where they're coming from , because most people , swimming is what keeps them from doing a triathlon . So I were , you know , I was in their shoes .

I can totally relate to what they're going through and I totally tell them if I can do what I did , you can , because I I did not like putting my face in the water . I would swim with my face out of the water , but I , yeah , I was not comfortable with my face in the water and trying to learn how to breathe and I did it .

Speaker 1

So , yeah , Okay , well , you're inspiring me . You are because I I don't think I'm . I do know that people , you know , do the backstroke for triathlons . It's ugly , but people do it and , yeah , I can do that .

But but there is part of me that just feels a little bit defeated , that there is this goal that I've kind of always had here and I haven't ever gotten over my fears enough to really to really do it . So you are inspiring me . You're inspiring me , denise . I feel like you have something to say . It's so loaded over here .

Speaker 2

Well , first of all , you absolutely can learn how to swim and secondly , one of the things that I think is so wonderful about swimming except for winter swimming , when you go out in your hair's breezes is that it's so good for your body . You know , if we we've run for years and years and years , our joints .

You know , if you want to keep being active , I think you do have to switch it around and do some swimming a couple times a week and a biking , you know , a bike on the weekends or something , and run a few times . But my goal , even at my age , is just to keep moving and swimming is so good for that .

Speaker 1

Yes , yes , thank you for that . Thank you all . I don't know how this became a podcast about how I can't swim , but but I guess God uses all things , doesn't he ? Yeah , all right . Well , nancy , I just want to say thank you so much . Thank you for promoting this sport that is near and dear to both Denise and I . Denise and me .

I so value what you bring to our community , and your leadership and and your dedication to running is really inspiring . So I hope our listeners will lace up a good pair of running shoes that they purchased at Fleet Feet and give it a try .

And if people want to , to find your stores or learn more about your stores or about your coaching , where would they do that ? How would they find you ?

Speaker 3

The best thing is to probably go to our Facebook page . It's Fleet Feet Columbia MO . We were not the first Fleet Feet Columbia . My good friend , tony owns three in Columbia , south Carolina , so make sure you put the MO at the end . But on there we keep you up to date on our training programs and you can always message the Facebook page .

I'm knowing the answers , all those messages . So we'll be kicking off . We just kicked off our half marathon marathon training group . We'll be kicking off our 5k 10k group here at the end of the month and our triathlon group . We usually kick off about March .

Speaker 1

So yeah , okay , I have time to get my , get my uh ducks in a row , yep .

Speaker 2

I was gonna say you have time to get your suit on .

Speaker 1

Or to find a suit that's a whole nother . That's a whole nother thing , though . Yeah , I don't have suits for swimming , I have suits for lounging . There's a difference . Yes , there is a difference . All right , nancy .

Well , I hope that anyone who feels stuck and wants to to make a move , I hope that they are inspired by your story and inspired to make a plan , pray about it and then just do big things . So congratulations on all your success , thank you .

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