The Making of an Interventionist
Jan 07, 2026•24 min
Episode description
Julia Ioffe joins Peter to discuss Trump’s turn from isolationism to interventionism in the wake of the Venezuela raid. Drawing on Trump’s first term, Ioffe explains how earlier risk-free strikes taught him that he could attack foreign targets without escalation, retaliation, or U.S. boots on the ground—potentially emboldening him to stay in attack mode.
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