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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you started your morning with him today. [SPEAKER_03]: And now the one the only. [SPEAKER_03]: Richard Chu from WCPT and AM950 both of which you're on right now. [SPEAKER_03]: You are on both of those stations right now, Richard. [SPEAKER_03]: How you doing? [SPEAKER_05]: Right now. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm doing great. [SPEAKER_05]: Good to see you. [SPEAKER_05]: Hope your day has been well. [SPEAKER_05]: I know it's been a long one like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a pretty much every day, as you know, it's long when we're dealing with the Trump regime and Tiny Johnson finally got something done a little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: Little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: He had a lie about it today in order to get it done though. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm I'm not kidding for. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll talk about tiny Johnson's minor accomplishments that and of course, obviously the reaction to the Supreme Court being Racist and unjust is hell.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be Karen and Anita and me. [SPEAKER_03]: So as you know, Kit, yeah, Karen burned two hours hanging with Karen and Anita at the same time. [SPEAKER_03]: That'll be fun too. [SPEAKER_05]: No, we fun. [SPEAKER_05]: Lots of fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, our US are US pissed off about the whole Supreme Court thing still as I am because I am, I'm, I'm actually, you know what, I'm not pissed off about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, that's, that's, that's, um, I get it. [SPEAKER_05]: That's some, um, [SPEAKER_05]: there are a lot of people that should be pissed off. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm pissed off about is that and I know this is taking this back. [SPEAKER_09]: No, it's fun. [SPEAKER_05]: I said this this morning on my show to some extent.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm pissed off that people who say that they know so much and new, new so much and we're always trying to be the smartest, smartest, baddest person in the room, right. [SPEAKER_05]: did not listen in 2016, when we pulled everybody, we clunked was right, and that it wasn't just about all the economic things and all the things that she largely listed at the one debate.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, that's super bad, beige pantsuit, which I thought was real fine, just rocking that suit, and I'm sorry, people could say what was the suit, but Hillary can rock, Hillary can rock a pantsuit. [SPEAKER_05]: Hell yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: But that night she said it, she said, look, this is what's gonna happen. [SPEAKER_05]: And the Supreme Court was one of those items. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody believed it in the role she said it didn't.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just thought at that, I pissed off that people's arrogance in telling us it wasn't going to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_05]: And now, and so all the things that had happened as a result of Trump's first nomination, where we now are dealing with a variety of things. [SPEAKER_05]: If we get to this point with the Supreme Court, taking away [SPEAKER_05]: probably the most impactful bit of legislation to balance the scales in our country in my mind.
[SPEAKER_05]: And as much as a black man in the country, I can say, this is an attack on the voting rights of people of color. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's really an attack on the voting rights of U.S. citizens. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it's also in my mind, it's not just a racist attack by a racist and illegitimate Supreme Court. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry they are illegitimate. [SPEAKER_03]: The court should reflect the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I've talked to you before about rule of 18, it's been a big thing on my list recently. [SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about that. [SPEAKER_05]: No, we haven't talked about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: But I mentioned I know some of you in the Barley, I've heard it. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk a little more. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the folks coming in the bar haven't heard it yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: The thing about it to me is the ruling was not just illegitimate, incomprehensible and racist and wrong, but it's Republicans firing the first shot in the New Civil War. [SPEAKER_03]: And just like the last time, they're too stupid to understand. [SPEAKER_03]: Stupid by choice, terminally stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: That's another phrase. [SPEAKER_03]: I've mentioned it on occasion here at the bar before. [SPEAKER_03]: So I have said this, I wrote this down somewhere in like 2004.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I didn't put it up online for years. [SPEAKER_03]: I finally put it up on one of the online, you know, alternative dictionaries that's out there. [SPEAKER_03]: But there is a phrase that I've used for years, and I defined it perfectly, called terminal stupidity. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just regular stupidity. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the point at which you have three functions. [SPEAKER_03]: You have three things. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lack of knowledge.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lack of wisdom. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a lack of concern or empathy. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't know, you don't care. [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't think you have to care. [SPEAKER_03]: Because you're feeling the blank. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm black, I'm white, I'm rich, I'm poor, I'm male, I'm female, I'm straight, I'm trans, I'm gay, I'm whatever the whole thing is, is that whatever your definition is.
[SPEAKER_03]: By staying on those three points of being ignorant of lacking wisdom, not listening to people, like you were saying, not listening to Hillary like we should have not listening to common though like we should have not listening to Barack and Joe like we should have. [SPEAKER_03]: And then combining it with the, I don't have to be cause, hey, I'm doing fine. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, Republicans are already in general.
[SPEAKER_03]: Modern Republicans are in a disadvantage anyway, because as I've said, the modern Republican motto is, I've got mine FU. [SPEAKER_03]: As long as they have theirs, they don't think they should concern themselves with the needs or concerns of anybody. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're poor, well, that sucks. [SPEAKER_03]: That must be a U problem, cause I've got my money. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I don't need to worry about it. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a U problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But when you have somebody who has power and sits at the the locus of those three decisions, it is almost inevitably dangerous and potentially deadly to them or to people around them because think about it. [SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump has a whole lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't know, but he never claims to not know it. [SPEAKER_03]: And nobody will tell him because he's Donald Trump and you can't tell me anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't learn anything from his experiences. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he wouldn't be in the White House. [SPEAKER_03]: He wouldn't have gone down this road anyway in the first place. [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, because he's Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: He thinks he doesn't have to care. [SPEAKER_03]: And how many people have died already? [SPEAKER_03]: COVID. [SPEAKER_03]: The folks that are in the Iran more.
[SPEAKER_03]: People in, I mean, they're the number of people that he's killed. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's not got Hitler or Paul Potts numbers, but, you know, since we're going into baseball season, you know, man has an interesting stat sheet, so he's saying.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, you know, the, again, the reason that I am that angry or pissed off, if you will at the Supreme Court per se is was predictable to you're going back to your point about what you know, it was predictable that they were going to do something they were trying. [SPEAKER_05]: We've been, they've been really, really nipping at the heels of article two. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Robert has been doing this. [SPEAKER_03]: They started in 2013 with the Shelby County and they've been.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the county. [SPEAKER_03]: They've been never since.
[SPEAKER_05]: So my, my piss off in this is that people who said it will never happen in all, you're making it, you know, you're getting, you know, to wired up about this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
[SPEAKER_05]: stuff does happen. [SPEAKER_05]: And you have to be eyes wide open to the fact that if you look at how history has, have then flowed, if you're in the wrong part of the ending flowing, you can't see the things to your point that have happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then you don't have a barometer to turn to and go, oh yeah, we're, we've done this before heading in a direction that we've been before [SPEAKER_05]: And so a lot of people, they can't see when things have been flow, so they're not equipped to be able to help in a decision-making process.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it doesn't help to do that our media, the way that our colleagues in the mainstream media position things so often, especially in headlines, you know, it's as though X happened and then it will happen forever. [SPEAKER_03]: And if there's any one thing that's true, especially in [SPEAKER_03]: is certain forever. [SPEAKER_03]: And nothing is stable forever. [SPEAKER_03]: There are constant. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the certainty.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: That right there, the statement that nothing is is the certainty. [SPEAKER_05]: We can be certain almost like the phrase that one thing that's constant, you know, changes the one thing that's constant or something. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I love that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd feel the dreams. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Times are all Jones.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm [SPEAKER_05]: I know that we have a fight on our hands. [SPEAKER_05]: We have we had we had we had a fight on our hands 36 hours ago now the fight is on is right in front of us to die has been cast.
[SPEAKER_03]: So well, for example, it's actually happened and I'm sure I know after your show, you talked a little bit at this morning, but so there's been some movement on this. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of these Republican states already are moving. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got some of that today in the news on tap for those of you are subscribed. [SPEAKER_03]: You can check it out in that first round the new uncivil war.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Louisiana Republican leaders, uh, there is debate as to whether they've already done it or whether they will, but if they haven't already, it's pretty soon. [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to suspend the U.S. congressional primaries because, well, we can.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that way, Nick, and we rewrite the rules and of the Florida State House, by the way, I know you saw this one and the Center Republican, the State House and the Center Republicans ran through to Santa's redistricting map. [SPEAKER_03]: But they think is going to net them four seats, which I don't think it's going to do quite what they think it's going to do. [SPEAKER_05]: And you know what happened here, too, is that they waited.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's the thing that was predictable, like, you know, water turning on, right? [SPEAKER_05]: They waited until after the Supreme Court made their decision. [SPEAKER_05]: Meaning Florida did. [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I said, I mentioned it here in the bar earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I honest to God think that, I mean, I think there are a lot of other people, a lot of the other national media folks that I know, even some journalists with a little bit of knowledge have said that they're pretty sure that if it wasn't a leader himself, he's the one who directed the leak.
[SPEAKER_03]: when they knock down, uh, rovers his way, right, and I can, I am almost bedding because in these redistricting wars, DeSantis was one of the first ones out of the gate, even before the Texas governor.
[SPEAKER_03]: who just said this was like, oh, yeah, before Abbott, this hit this was like, yep, we're gonna do it here, Florida, and then they never did it, and they never did it, and they never did it, and then about Thursday or Friday of last week, suddenly, this hit this says, well, you've been trying to figure out when we're gonna do this [SPEAKER_03]: Wednesday of next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then conveniently, how convenient, quote, unquote, the Supreme Court drops their ruling Wednesday morning and sure enough, they just zip it through Wednesday afternoon and Florida. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, she didn't bastard you. [SPEAKER_05]: And they do it like they think we're that stupid like you don't get the best happening. [SPEAKER_05]: And we knew that that was coming. [SPEAKER_05]: And that was part of the plan.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I love [SPEAKER_05]: He probably, to your journalist friends, access, he probably did. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's his way of, [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's his way of telling Robert's, I'm the real big daddy swinger here, not you. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's part of it. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you on that. [SPEAKER_03]: I also think that it goes to their attitude.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all know that Donald Trump is a bully. [SPEAKER_03]: We know that Pete Kegbreath is a bully, and yes, I call him Kegbreath. [SPEAKER_03]: We all do here at the bar, because that's just it. [SPEAKER_03]: But I think Alito is the same way. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not enough for them to beat you. [SPEAKER_03]: They're the kind of person who they need to be cruel. [SPEAKER_03]: So they don't just want to beat you. [SPEAKER_03]: They want to rub your face in the dirt.
[SPEAKER_03]: because they have this whole inside themselves that they do never fill up. [SPEAKER_03]: And they think by being cruel to other people, that's going to fill it up and I'm like, what a small, small man. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's true. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm out. [SPEAKER_05]: No doubt. [SPEAKER_05]: I hear the music.
[SPEAKER_03]: say look Richard is a pro he is a radio pro he is a news and information pro he knows these things this is one of the reason I'm so glad you're feeling in for Joe D tonight which is great because this is look I miss having Joe D here but you know what this is good this is this is going to be fun tonight to look we've got more from the news on tap tonight obviously I like we said we'll talk a little about tiny Johnson and his well
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[SPEAKER_09]: I got that back in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I was in a school in Chicago back in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I knew some good places to party. [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a few years since the early 90s, but I [SPEAKER_03]: I did have, I've always had a good place my heart for Chicago, Minneapolis, love ATL, Tessie's beautiful. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's some great places around the country and I'm glad that we are in those places.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what we're fighting for, man. [SPEAKER_05]: And today, on my show this morning, I had Dr. Thomas Fisher and Dr. Anthony Douglas on. [SPEAKER_05]: I heard that it was good. [SPEAKER_05]: They're great to local Chicago physicians.
[SPEAKER_05]: And one of the things that we came back to, [SPEAKER_05]: is it got to go to the statement that in B.A. [SPEAKER_05]: coach and former great doc Rivers has said, and he's made a specific about black folks in the country that we love, but doesn't love us back in the same manner, but a lot of people in our country that that sentiment would be applicable to them, not just black folks.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are lots of people who are truly the patriotic ones, because I think one of the most [SPEAKER_05]: is that we care about our country when our country's at its worst. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, when it's best. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: It's something that I think all of us aspire to because we want to see all, I mean, we want to see all of us just moving in a better direction, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And not at the expense of somebody else losing where they are in this life in this country. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's lost right now. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that that that that that thing is it's certainly [SPEAKER_05]: we don't know much and say we don't know what it feels like. [SPEAKER_05]: We do know what it feels like. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: But the question is, how many people are feeling it enough? [SPEAKER_05]: Are angry enough?
[SPEAKER_05]: to say, you know what, I need to put this other stuff in my life. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, this is what we're talking about when you first came into the barn. [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is something that I think that folks, more folks need to pay attention to as far as that goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, we've been saying here at the bar for a while now that especially coming, you know, into this year and obviously throughout this year and going forward, a lot of folks on our side are going to have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_05]: That's right. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have to get rid of some of the rules, some of the ways that we use to do things. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you tell us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, the states that have basically said that recently or maybe the next two years that they could use this Supreme Court decision to really screw things up. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to list these. [SPEAKER_03]: You tell me what they all have in common here. [SPEAKER_03]: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. [SPEAKER_03]: What are all these states having common?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were on the sea, they're all Confederate states exactly and they're they're all rushing to disenfranchise black and brown voters and women Asian voters Native American voters here's the thing and look to you got a I want to include in this well at some point It's going to include our rule Oh, yeah [SPEAKER_05]: Um, at Caucasian brothers and sisters too, they go find a way. [SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why I said this is the first shot in a war because, um, uh, I can't ridiculous. [SPEAKER_03]: Do we, do we play that a, I don't think we played the AOC cut. [SPEAKER_03]: So I actually have my, my clip machine work in day. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, this is what representative AOC said, which he was asked about this Supreme Court decision, basically gutting the voting rights act yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is something that our, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: I have long felt that we all have to play by the same set of rules. [SPEAKER_00]: And the Republican caucus has made it very clear that they want and are setting rules of partisan gerrymandering. [SPEAKER_00]: The Democratic caucus has tried to pass non-partisan gerrymandering for 10 years, Republicans have rejected it, and so we have to all abide by the same rules, and so
[SPEAKER_00]: If Republicans are going to redraw and with Carolina, if they're going to redraw Texas, if they're going to redraw and gerrymandered every one of their states, then unfortunately, we have to provide balance to that until we get to the day, where we can all finally agree to put this behind us and pass nonpartisan gerrymandering federally. [SPEAKER_05]: We have to put balance.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's a great way of articulating this about balancing things out, which this is the Republican party now certainly maga and frankly forever my lifetime has never wanted balance.
[SPEAKER_03]: then we'll go back to something that's reasonable right now we can't play that way right and here's the thing is that we know some folks especially on Capitol Hill who they're great they've been lobbying for a lot of good stuff for us over the years CBC is who I'm thinking of congressional black caucus great folk look a team Jeffries that there are things that I we say around here you know credit where to and criticism to you know whenever you're
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think a keen needs to be more angry. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that Cory Booker, yes, I can call him Cory because I know him. [SPEAKER_03]: But I think I always, I've said this many times. [SPEAKER_03]: I want Cory to be more angry. [SPEAKER_03]: I want him to be more angry. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think, well, so Terry Sue, Democrat from Alabama, [SPEAKER_03]: She was quoted in a piece of leaf from political.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we have the news on tap today where she says about all of this. [SPEAKER_03]: She said, you know what? [SPEAKER_03]: Fine. [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to do this. [SPEAKER_03]: I take 52 seats from California. [SPEAKER_03]: I sure would and 17 seats from Illinois, that would mean no Republican representation in either state, but what she's saying and what the CBC said for years is we'll do we can, but they kind of don't go too far.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't be the angry black man or anger black woman. [SPEAKER_03]: And now even some of their leadership is like, you know what, effort. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_03]: It is time to be angry. [SPEAKER_03]: It is time to say, if you want to go boy, how do you? [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's where I want us to be. [SPEAKER_05]: And you know, you asked me about if I'm angry and and all that.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm angry that folks haven't listened and I said this before. [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm kind of repeating myself. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no people come in all the time. [SPEAKER_05]: But the thing that I'm that I want. [SPEAKER_05]: a lot of folks to understand that the gloves are now off. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and there's the people who were trying to be that to operate with some discernment and trying to play whatever this game is in a fair way.
[SPEAKER_05]: are the ones that are now the most dangerous ones on our side because they're like it's not what I tried to play nice I tried you know it's kind of like with children you know this you just like listen I tried to be nice with you but no now it's done I did tell you that you could go and play with your friends but you had to clean up your bedroom and you had to do this and you chose not to do it so guess what
[SPEAKER_05]: not only are you're not going to play with your friends, you're playing the whole house. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, look, look, I think I mentioned this before when you've been here in Jody and I have been talking. [SPEAKER_03]: I held raise my brothers a little bit, you know, my folks got divorced and my sister was older and having fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was, you know, the oldest one at home and obviously, you know, my, my folks banked this, we were young, that's just how it was back in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: But. [SPEAKER_03]: My mom told me I couldn't do that because you're just, you're just their brother. [SPEAKER_03]: So I had to find other way. [SPEAKER_03]: So one of the things I did is I would, I would grab my brother's brother by their ankles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're like 10, they're like eight and ten years younger than me. [SPEAKER_03]: So they're these little kids. [SPEAKER_03]: I pick them up by the ankles. [SPEAKER_03]: They're these little kids and I hold them there. [SPEAKER_03]: And at first they think this is funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they've blessed us Russian. [SPEAKER_03]: And then they start getting tingly. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, okay, they say funny and no more.
[SPEAKER_03]: All they say funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, now it's not funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you think it's not funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Now you think it's not funny. [SPEAKER_03]: Now do you understand where I was like five minutes ago when you made that mess that I'm going to have to spend another 30 minutes clean up. [SPEAKER_03]: Is it funny now? [SPEAKER_03]: No, you go help me. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, put me down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, oh, so Steven Wolf, he's one of the voting experts that we know. [SPEAKER_03]: He's over the down ballot. [SPEAKER_03]: He says because of what this Supreme Court has done, Democrats may be [SPEAKER_03]: and pick up 19 more seats.
[SPEAKER_03]: That includes in states like Washington and Oregon, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey and Maryland, and Republicans probably going to do the same, but they may only pick up 12 to 15 more seats because they've already tried to rig the system. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Some what same problem. [SPEAKER_03]: It just answers then in Republicans are going to run to in Florida and in Texas with Abbott. [SPEAKER_03]: Same problem.
[SPEAKER_05]: They already dipped in the well in the well. [SPEAKER_05]: That part of the well is dry. [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: And the areas don't have the volume of seats. [SPEAKER_03]: So they have there's one thing that will reminded us of. [SPEAKER_03]: He says that there may be more than 200 seats at state levels up for grabs too, because if they can regenerate the the for the the federal federal federal state can redo it for state and for local too.
[SPEAKER_03]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But in and of course, obviously, there's the personnel principle, whichever way, if you don't know the personnel principle, that's the one that basically says, you can't chain the rules when it's too close to the election. [SPEAKER_03]: And that may be what, for example, Florida may be running into that because it's what they've just done is illegal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's going to be challenged and of course courts go at the speed of courts go, which is slow as hell, and if it doesn't get done in time, it doesn't get done, but all of this just basically ends up in political mutual assured destruction, which as somebody who is our age, you know, and anybody here in the bar who's about 50 and older, we all remember the 80s and the cold war. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's really what this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this, the fact that Republicans are so arrogant and so ignorant of the facts and so just, I mean, like I said, terminal stupidity that they think, well, we can do this to you, but you're not going to do it back to us. [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that Democrats are now finally standing up and going, you know what, gloves off, let's go. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm done with this.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think one and so well, so well, push, and I think one of the other things that goes along with this or not not not another thing, but I go back and I oftentimes I ask myself this question, why and how, so why are we here, how do we get here and and I'm using this for a lot of different ways of solving some problems at least getting along.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, and in the year three decades of being a financial advisor, I've always kind of got okay, how and then where are we going to go? [SPEAKER_05]: So, in this place where we are right now, I do have to ask that question about, you know, what have been some of the things that have happened along the way that have gotten us here?
[SPEAKER_05]: The one thing that I come back to, [SPEAKER_05]: is that, and we could talk about how Dems have been maybe a little bit like a days of cold sleep at the will, whatever. [SPEAKER_05]: So off the whole nine, we could talk about that all day long. [SPEAKER_05]: We know that and Republicans are can be craving all that. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I come down the middle of this and say, [SPEAKER_05]: One of the things that's a common thread is that the people who are gonna benefit from this type of activity from the Republicans was voting, same people that prior to the voting rights act in 65 were benefiting from them. [SPEAKER_05]: And those are the people who actually were the ones that thought they were the strongest in the smartest in the best. [SPEAKER_05]: And actually, they weren't, and they still aren't.
[SPEAKER_05]: They never have been, and what's being proven out is that they're pretty mediocre.
[SPEAKER_05]: And those guys, those straight white Christian males in America, then shown and look at it and especially the rich ones, especially the ones that they they inherited anything that they think is impressive about themselves, even the ones, even the ones that have maybe in some ways not inherited, but they built, they did do something, whatever whatever the case may be right what's happened is because of all of the. [SPEAKER_05]: Ascent. [SPEAKER_05]: by people that are not like them.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's pretty much everybody else. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Is that those it's shown. [SPEAKER_05]: And when we think about this is relates to the birth rate in America, right, shown that those, the people that don't look like the straight way Christian male in America are better if it have, have always been as good and it's not better. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's what's got so many of them ticked off.
[SPEAKER_05]: And many of many of the, the folks that are, I guess it would be Gen X. [SPEAKER_05]: the whatever they were born after 64 right that age group has realized that they don't have they didn't have the same linear track to success you know or largest that their fathers and their uncles had and as a result of that they're been the ones let me look at the age of everybody from headset to you know anybody that's in the administration it's in that late
[SPEAKER_05]: their parents were, are a certain age, their dad is in their uncles, are a certain age. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And they got a lot of cart blanche and so now those guys didn't get that. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, all those guys in that window have been the biggest ones that have been yelling a lot about, let's change everything. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of guys in men in their 70s that are white [SPEAKER_05]: You know what, we learned our lesson and I'm making a very broad statement to say this thing, a lot of what this is exposing. [SPEAKER_05]: is the mediocrity of the people that are in leadership across the board. [SPEAKER_03]: 100% agree. [SPEAKER_03]: 100% agree with you on that, Richard. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, obviously you just heard the music start on this. [SPEAKER_03]: Ta-da, obviously, break again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look, I still want to talk more about this. [SPEAKER_03]: I want to get to the tiny johns and stuff because Congress did do a little something today. [SPEAKER_03]: We obviously have the drink of the day and I... [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting all thirsty. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we should probably do that next if you're good with it. [SPEAKER_05]: I am. [SPEAKER_03]: All righty. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then that's exactly what we will do. [SPEAKER_03]: It is a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_03]: John Fuckel said coming in later. [SPEAKER_03]: Richard Chu of WCPT and AM950 and WAR. [SPEAKER_03]: He is all of those things and more. [SPEAKER_03]: He's hanging out with us here. [SPEAKER_03]: Fill it in for Jodi on this Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: But we'll do the drink of the day next. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get back to the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: and obviously get a few more of your comments out there and a few things coming in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, get yourself another round. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back. [SPEAKER_07]: You're in the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: we've done this before we're we're getting around jodie was talking to me here recently and she's like we're gonna start getting back and like we got to pick up some of the drinks that we've done before and I'm like yeah but there's different things in the history and we did a different history this time on the Ramus Jinfiz because um so we introduced this to you guys for the first time last August
[SPEAKER_03]: But we didn't hit on the fact that the Ramos chin fist is an iconic Louisiana style cocktail created in New Orleans and 1888 by Henry Ramos who yes Hispanic background in Orleans in the 1800s this is America this is how we do this originally was called the New Orleans Fizz [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, it's, it's pretty good. [SPEAKER_03]: We've, Jody got some great history and here's some great pictures as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Talk about the long complicated road to the union.
[SPEAKER_03]: If there's any place that is a perfect example of the mix that is the United States Louisiana specifically in Orleans is that place. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it is. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're French, you're English, you're American, everybody's all hanging together plus it's a port.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you got people from all over the world, bringing stuff plus a river port, it's, if you never in New Orleans, get to get to New Orleans, just saying it's, it's, it's, it's Louisiana, it's, it's so crazy to about the state of Louisiana. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's been, it's baffled me for years, and from a national political standpoint. [SPEAKER_05]: But I get it in that. [SPEAKER_05]: That Louisiana, I don't understand why it's not a blue state because of what you're just described.
[SPEAKER_05]: But that shouldn't say I don't understand. [SPEAKER_05]: I get why it's not a blue state. [SPEAKER_05]: But it frustrates me because I think this is the state that is sort of emblematic of who we are or say we are, you know, in the country, which is diverse with so much don't want. [SPEAKER_05]: And when I say that I know that every time I say people [SPEAKER_05]: Richard, our families from there. [SPEAKER_05]: It's our families from Mississippi and Louisiana Delta.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right Delta. [SPEAKER_05]: And so you know why it's not, and, but I still go back to the fact that bad news and New Orleans are so diverse and has so much great interaction and culture and community and all those things, but at the end of the day, it breaks my heart that the entire state.
[SPEAKER_03]: is not more progressive state even though I know that it's kind of look you you know people who I'm I'm still hoping they find a way to keep the bears in Chicago and I love them to freaking Indiana but I know but look but you know that there are there are people who they are such that there are people here in DC who are such diehard fans they will still use the R word as we
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're dedicated to it because of the memories that they had grown up and the past histories that they have with it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think in a lot of places, especially the Confederate areas of the country, including Louisiana, that that knows their, that's part of their history that they don't want to let go is the time when they were important. [SPEAKER_03]: When they were more important than they feel that they are now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we may think that some of those folks on Louisiana are, I mean, you got this great drink. [SPEAKER_03]: The, uh, the Ramos Jen Fizz, which is, I mean, that's, that's a guarantee. [SPEAKER_03]: Any bartender, you know, knows the Ramos Jen Fizz. [SPEAKER_03]: And it comes from Louisiana, but they don't think about that in their own state. [SPEAKER_03]: And they should to hell with drink. [SPEAKER_03]: I love it here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is for those of you who don't know this is how you make a Romus gin fish So as Jody says all your glasses should be chilled even the ones in the face. [SPEAKER_03]: Always a chilled Collins glass two shakers You need ice We have this as both a cocktail and a mocktail for those of you who are like I don't do the alcohol.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got your cover with a mocktail that I so the cocktail version gives you two ounces of gin [SPEAKER_03]: probably London dry would be best, but whatever your favorite kind of genuine is for the mocktail two ounces of liars, Jen alternative, always great. [SPEAKER_03]: We love the liars products. [SPEAKER_03]: You need a half ounce of lemon juice as Jodi would say always freshly squeezed. [SPEAKER_03]: She's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: have adds a lime juice, half ounce of simple syrup, just a tiny couple of drops of orange blossom water or orange flower water. [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have those, you could use like a single drop of more of orange juice, just saying, you know, three drops of vanilla extract. [SPEAKER_03]: It's optional if you're not a big fan of vanilla, I tend to recommend it. [SPEAKER_03]: You also need three-quarter knots of an egg white and three-quarter ounce of cream.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have a full cream, you can use half-and-half, that's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: And you need a little soda water to top it off and a quarter orange wheel as well. [SPEAKER_03]: You can use mint sprig to if you want. [SPEAKER_03]: So this is what you do to put them together. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little work, but in like we said, you gotta aim. [SPEAKER_03]: First, you got to shake the first eight ingredients.
[SPEAKER_03]: The gin of the gin alternative, the lemon juice, the lime juice, the simple syrup, the orange blossom water, the vanilla extract, the egg white, and the half and half. [SPEAKER_03]: You shake all of those up with ice until it's chilled, and then you strain it back into your second shaker without ice because, yes, I just turned some to say yes, it is dry shake. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we're doing next. [SPEAKER_03]: So we dry shake it so we make the drink foamy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now here's the aiming part. [SPEAKER_03]: Slowly pour two thirds of the shaker's contents from a higher than normal height into your chilled empty Collins glass. [SPEAKER_03]: No icing the glass. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's gonna kind of pour out, do it carefully, and then with your other hand, you're gonna be pouring that soda water. [SPEAKER_03]: So they mix, they should form a single stream, that makes it even more foamy. [SPEAKER_03]: Really nice, like, pouring a Guinness.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you pour it again, you get it, you know, you got to leave it to settle for about a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: If you got a little fridge, you can stick it in fine. [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't, that's okay too. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you pour the final contents of the shaker gently into the glass, just tilt it a little bit. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the head on the foam will rise like a souffle. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when you put in the orange wheel as a garnish, and there you go, man. [SPEAKER_05]: So. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man, see, you got me tempted now, like I got the rest of the time. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, all I could say is if you do this at your house Richard, just make sure you aim correctly and don't tell your wife what you're before hand, because she'll be like, you don't make a mess. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I know. [SPEAKER_04]: I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what I, that's why I'm sitting and going, okay, I got to make sure like you said that I ain't paying well. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: for those of you missed any part of it. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys know what to do. [SPEAKER_03]: Just subscribe to the politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll do some more entertainment stuff a little bit later. [SPEAKER_03]: We've been talking about the fact that Tiny Johnson got a few things done today.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I got a talk but I had actually so a technician was in this week working on the internet at my house. [SPEAKER_03]: And we were talking about some of these things. [SPEAKER_03]: He was an immigrant, nice guy, and he was sitting there going, some of your American stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't understand why you guys are doing some of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he asked, you know, what we do at the bar, and so I told him, he said, you talk about some of the politics, but you make it funny. [SPEAKER_03]: He says, how do you make it funny? [SPEAKER_03]: So give me an example. [SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, you know, Speaker Johnson. [SPEAKER_03]: He says, yeah, I said, you know, he's like five, eight, five, seven, something like that. [SPEAKER_03]: he goes, really? [SPEAKER_03]: I said, yeah, he's short.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says, well, that's that's kind of unusual. [SPEAKER_03]: So why do you think it's unusual? [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, [SPEAKER_03]: Art Republicans, the ones who go around bragging about their, um, I said, oh, size of their, their thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And he says, yeah, yeah, they, they tried, you know, I'm the big swing and you know what? [SPEAKER_03]: And I say, yeah, Republicans do that a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said, that's, that's why we call this speaker, tiny Johnson, because he lives at me and he goes, what? [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, well, the Republican stand there, waving their tiny Johnson to us. [SPEAKER_03]: And then when we stand there, pointing and laughing at them, they get really mad. [SPEAKER_03]: And we say, well, you know, if you didn't have an impotent, tiny Johnson, just [SPEAKER_03]: And he was just he just broke out and laughter.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why we call him tiny Johnson and they hate it. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hey, and I have a I sell some friends who, you know, deal deal with some of the Republicans stuff and they're like, that's not funny. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh, no, we tell Larry. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's hilarious. [SPEAKER_05]: It is.
[SPEAKER_05]: The layer and the fact that that, um, [SPEAKER_03]: So many of them get so riled and bent when we make a joke about like you know it's any chemo made a great joke I mean, you know, and the funny thing is a Trump made a joke about being old Was it Monday when the king and queen were outside he made that joke and you're going are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_03]: Are you really kidding?
[SPEAKER_05]: He makes the same freak and joke Listen, Matt Blania has no Listen, I'm gonna keep it clean, but [SPEAKER_03]: That's the wrong, especially with the fact that Donald makes the same basic joke that Jimmy did a few days beforehand. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it is, but so Tiny Johnson today finally convinced House Republicans to accept the Senate passed DHS Ice Funding Bill that they passed weeks ago. [SPEAKER_05]: You. [SPEAKER_03]: I am not joking about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Day 75 of the shutdown, it took Tiny Johnson almost a month, 35 days to get them to pass the same freaking bill that the Senate sent over a hundred to zero, 35 freaking days ago, which is insane. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look at this. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, it's not a fiddle saying gaming all the early. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my goodness. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, not yet. [SPEAKER_03]: No, you got it. [SPEAKER_01]: You got it. [SPEAKER_01]: You got it. [SPEAKER_01]: We do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, I'm just here as a richer two groupie. [SPEAKER_05]: Hello. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so, I'm so honored about that. [SPEAKER_05]: Listen, the world better prepare itself because of three of us just got together all like you look out for this really fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be we're making, we're making fun of tiny Johnson right now, John, because so it took him 35 days to get the House Republicans to accept the same bill that the Senate sent over 35 days ago. [SPEAKER_03]: It took them 75 days to get this shutdown past.
[SPEAKER_03]: here's the other thing so he goes out there today and he's bragging about oh I got this done I got that he's bragging how we got the the FISA authorization done a he didn't get it done they passed a version of the FISA reauthorization that the senate is not going to pass that's right and then the house and senator going on vacation for a week they're going back home for a week of a case and again
[SPEAKER_03]: And in order to get the FISA authorization, he lied to the people in his own caucus. [SPEAKER_03]: He prompts, oh, I swear, I'll get you a farm vote. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll get you a vote in the farm bill. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's sad when your caucus stops working for you. [SPEAKER_01]: See, we're talking about. [SPEAKER_03]: There we go. [SPEAKER_03]: I got to hit the right bill on that. [SPEAKER_03]: John was right. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, look, that's that's that's that is perpetually the Republicans problem. [SPEAKER_03]: They have a very tiny impotent tiny Johnson. [SPEAKER_03]: Their caucus is it's got functionality problems and then they wonder why we stand there and point at them when they threaten us. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the big swing, and, yeah, you can't even get it out of anywhere, shut up.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just find that infinitely amusing, and I know that they find it infinitely frustrating, which makes me laugh even harder. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to be cruel, I'm just saying, literally, if you're the party, if people who have a penis problem, you brag about it constantly, and then you elect a guy who is [SPEAKER_03]: Are you really going to expect us not to make the jokes? [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a few members of Congress who have seen this problem, it's actually, you know, I mean, I understand how it is. [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to say this, because of my name. [SPEAKER_05]: But guys, could you imagine if this first name were Richard? [SPEAKER_01]: Should we go on that for a minute? [SPEAKER_01]: He's already America's creepiest youth pastor. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: OK, look, OK, we've got Richard. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got Richard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you hang around for a little bit longer? [SPEAKER_05]: You got a couple minutes. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I do. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: Richard Hangeram for a little bit longer. [SPEAKER_03]: We got John Fugle sang in looks. [SPEAKER_03]: It takes two of them to fill in for one Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_03]: But we're going to do that here on this Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh and your drink, dude, what you got to do back with Richard and John and me and you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Here's politics bar. [SPEAKER_10]: Let it go. [SPEAKER_06]: Thinking, ready to go. [SPEAKER_08]: Think it's a far, where we are, The politics march. [SPEAKER_06]: The shotsmith, Pearson, Jodie Hamilton. [SPEAKER_03]: on this Thursday night obviously, you know, Richard has been hanging out with me, Richard true from WCPT and AM950 and WARR.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hangin' out this is good, but now, the one the only John Fiergel saying, look, we've always got to give you the formal intro, John. [SPEAKER_03]: It's more fun to get the people right up around here that way, you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to tell your listeners, please live your lives in such a way that you never find yourself saying the words, I am not a pedophile on 60 minutes, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to make it to the end without having to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: John is absolutely correct. [SPEAKER_03]: Preusual, perusual, look, thank you by the way to everybody joining us for this second hour on all of our great radio affiliates. [SPEAKER_03]: Whether you are joining us from AM950 Minneapolis St. Paul or WCPT, AMA20 in Chicago, maybe you're joining us from the D2R Talk in Tennessee or town in Georgia on Georgia now, radio, or maybe you are listening to us on progressive voices radio worldwide somewhere else on the planet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we've been talking obviously about a lot of the Supreme Court thing because, I mean, I think it is important. [SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned John of the First Hour to Richard that I think this is in some ways the first major shot.
[SPEAKER_01]: of the uh... potentially i hope not but a version of the second civil war at least it's going to be an electoral civil war and these dumb ass they started it in twenty thirteen let's not forget police got a number it's been inspectors javaire chasing john val john for decades on this thing with a twenty million dollar uh... heightened seek with money from his wife that's right about that and and so
[SPEAKER_01]: Some reason he's not facing disparmate even though his wife took 10 million from firms having cases before him. [SPEAKER_01]: He's gutting the voting rights act in a sequel because summer of 2013, they gutted section five of the voting rights act, taking away preclearance for Confederate states because John Roberts says there's a black president, which means there's there's no more racism.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I never forgot because the summer of 2013 happened the same week, they greenlit the film Sharknado 2. [SPEAKER_01]: And I just remembered those two things I knew it was going [SPEAKER_05]: But if you guys think about this, I said this this morning and I just curious what you guys think about. [SPEAKER_05]: I think that Alito and Thomas, this is why I'm pissed off about what happened in 16.
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I think that Alito and Thomas might be looking at this and saying, you know what? [SPEAKER_05]: This is our, this is going to be our legacy thing. [SPEAKER_05]: And they resigned this year, which gives Trump the ability to appoint two more. [SPEAKER_05]: Lifetime 30 plus year Supreme justices. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I'm wrong, but I said, this morning, the first time I'm going to say it, and I'll see what happens. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think you're wrong at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, is that I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: They, I, why would they leave? [SPEAKER_01]: They have so much racism to live for. [SPEAKER_01]: So, so many, so many chances to favor management over labor, and, and.
[SPEAKER_03]: cops over a bloody victims they have they have so much old a car key still to live for a richard come on now and they're both narcissists i don't think i don't think that's on their careers that's the big thing is the thing that the thing that that i hear from from people who i i know and you know keep acquainted with and you know keep my ear to the ground on um it seems to be two signals coming out at the same volume level with
[SPEAKER_03]: basically opposite signals if you opposite messages that they're carrying. [SPEAKER_03]: One of which is yes, they're going to retire and the other is no, they're not. [SPEAKER_03]: In the no, they're not camp. [SPEAKER_03]: It's they're feeling their oats. [SPEAKER_03]: Now that they're screwing all the people that they feel the they screwed. [SPEAKER_03]: So they want to stick around to keep screwing the people that they hate. [SPEAKER_03]: And they think that they're invincible.
[SPEAKER_03]: They feel like they can do anything. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's the stick around camp. [SPEAKER_03]: The the leave camp says the same thing that you said Richard, which is well, I mean this would be the perfect smart time to do it and and it's it's the root better against bird question I get that I have I've been promoting it's it's an idea and I think [SPEAKER_03]: I still don't know exactly where I originally picked this up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I knew it was on Twitter back in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: I was pretty, my memory is vague, but I vaguely remember that I followed Glenn Kersner, and not too long after I followed a few other lawyers, and then I started watching some of their legal conversations. [SPEAKER_03]: And somebody in this group of lawyers started talking about the Rule of 18. [SPEAKER_03]: And I have dug into it over the last decade, 12 years, whatever, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, oh, this is kind of interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: And the concept that I, the way that I talk about it and the way that I understand it, the rule of 18 would work like this. [SPEAKER_03]: 18 members of the Supreme Court, each have 18 year terms. [SPEAKER_03]: They can be shuffled off to other federal courts. [SPEAKER_03]: They only have to be on the springs for 18. [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't have to worry about change in constitution that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would be divided in three groups of six. [SPEAKER_03]: and they would be judged and put into these groups by groups of lawyers. [SPEAKER_03]: Other groups of lawyers, new one picked every year, blind. [SPEAKER_03]: So nobody knows who's in this group. [SPEAKER_03]: And these groups would be made up of, lawyers that know their stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: And they judge applicants to the court, whether they are left, right, and center.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you have six left, six center, and six right. [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody who leaves for whatever role you hope, you hope you have. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're re their re judged every year as to internally, and if, you know, if you're in the center and you move left for you move right. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm shuffled off to the parts of the court, but the idea is there are always six of each. [SPEAKER_03]: Every case comes up and you get a random.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see that I can see this government getting behind something like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, this would be something that look, there's going to have to be a, this way. [SPEAKER_01]: There are like fairies in the Death Star in this narrative. [SPEAKER_01]: Let me finish the explanation. [SPEAKER_03]: Every case gets a random three from each one of these piles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Among other things, it makes it impossible to do what has happened so often, where cases come up and they go, oh well, I'm going to wait for a court that's favorable to me. [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, you have absolutely no idea of who's going to be hearing it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a random three from one of these three piles, so it gets you nine. [SPEAKER_03]: And even if you go, oh, well, I got something that like me, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got three that are in your pocket. [SPEAKER_03]: You have to convince two from the other piles, suck a and make it on back. [SPEAKER_03]: So you can do all 18 if you need to. [SPEAKER_03]: People go, oh my God, this would be, but it would completely make them, it would make just just blind in the way that it's supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: and among other things, everybody on the court would have to apply the same ethics standards that every other judge across the United States has to to be under. [SPEAKER_03]: And people have suggested you legal people are like, I like the idea. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, it came from you people, so you probably will do that. [SPEAKER_05]: That kind of goes, Sean, that goes back to the other reason why I've come to this conclusion that they might be looking to resign.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's that, that in the back of [SPEAKER_05]: jurisprudence, we, if we take back the House of Representatives, there may be in their mind the concern that they've got a bunch of, they've got some baggage, meaning a leader in Thomas, which comes of what they take, where they've taken money from and certain things. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm wondering if they're thinking, if the Jim's take back the House, we're going to be in trouble because they're going to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm forecasting a little bit that they might be thinking we're going to get brought in from a kind of scene that you mean this democratic party that we're using right now we're going to read court is that we've been using this one that we've been using is going to go off to this print court for talking about this john that this this this is this is this is a list of things that I mean there are things that the democrats need to be doing differently and I do see.
[SPEAKER_01]: more motion towards Democrats changing, but we're going to have to make a reason why I do it with a freaking Nazi tattoo is going to be the nominee in Maine because he's actually making the message Democrats need to be making, right, just he's profoundly the wrong messenger. [SPEAKER_05]: Right, yes, that's it. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a heart break from me.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this is this is that conversation where people [SPEAKER_05]: Too many times to say just flat out say money in politics is bad. [SPEAKER_05]: No bad money with bad people in politics is bad Because if you believe Janet Mills, she's getting out of the race not because of ideology Because of what she believes in not because they're willing to fight my own words But because she can't afford it. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's my partner.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just to look the guy that John just described is to do this Gonna carry the message for us in Maine and he's got two he's got two strikes against him for two groups [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but he should have told me the women's vote. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And what he said back in 2013 was it about military sex assaults. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, yeah, God, you know, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am not the brightest person, but before I began my public career, I made sure to remove all my Nazi batteries. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you can get him laser to off or this is crazy thing where they'll turn your tattoo into another tattoo. [SPEAKER_01]: Just think of what you can do around over mine. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: There's some ways to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he had that tattoo for 20 years, but our multiple instances of people saying they caught him talking about it semi bragging about it and it's so so when I when I've mentioned it on online and other forums and people go. [SPEAKER_03]: Why you call him a Nazi? [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's got not just any Nazi tattoo. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just a swastika. [SPEAKER_03]: It's totankomp.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the, you know, the, the, the symbol of the SS in the center of his freaking chest. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, and he had it for 20 years. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So oops. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's the one that's going to carry the ticket and we're going to mess around and the Republicans are going to do what they try to do here in a little in our primary and they had all this outside money very shame all these tech boys.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's in me they spend $10 million on our primary sooner than Illinois and my reading for my my research that got another $100 million sitting in the bank. [SPEAKER_05]: And so my worry, John, and I want to hear you to say about this, [SPEAKER_05]: to make him look bad against Collins and Collins is going to win because they're going to use all the stuff that we're talking about. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: The outside money, they're going to use that against him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that they'll do well, they have a good argument against which is that Graham has a Nazi tattoo and Susan Collins supports Nazis and then feels just awful about it later. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I think Mr. Ikeman's learned his lesson. [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's learned his lesson. [SPEAKER_01]: I really do. [SPEAKER_01]: Probably. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we have to remember something. [SPEAKER_01]: Grandplattner's not popular because of his Nazi tattoo past. [SPEAKER_01]: He's popular because he's running on the same exact true populism. [SPEAKER_01]: That's no run mom Donnie ran on. [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. [SPEAKER_01]: By true populism, what I mean is what the Democratic Party needs to run on everywhere. [SPEAKER_01]: Now is the time in these midterms when the greatest oak Democrats have beyond Trump's crappy poll numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's remember. [SPEAKER_01]: lot of folks will only show up to vote if Mr. Trump's name is on the ballot right a lot of these folks that only or these Trump voters who only show up right they didn't come in 18 didn't come in 22 no they're not going to come this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now's the best time you've ever had to run against the billionaire Epstein class and [SPEAKER_01]: making treaties to your Republican friends now is the time that a smart Democrat talks like Bernie talks like Liz Warren talks like Zoron Mundani talks like FDR and reaches out to our conservative white brothers and sisters saying this rig economy is hurting you too. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's so easy to do John. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So oil price today hit a wartime high $127 a barrel today, believe it was easy to do if you don't want a pack cash.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... there are now what is it doesn't have been like federal doesn't yeah exactly there are dozen states were gases above five dollars a gallon and they're starting to add up and there were three i think above six so i mean it's absolutely insane but here's here's the other thing and obviously we've got links to this stuff in the news on tap today uh... the
[SPEAKER_03]: the poll that came out and the thing that I think Democrats should be if Democrats really want a hashtag to stand behind the new ABC news, Washington Post, Episodes poll, Americans opposed Trump's ballroom by a two to one margin and even more opposed his signature on the money. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, putting new his signature on new dollar bills because they think it's absolutely arrogant.
[SPEAKER_03]: All you got to do is call them hashtag ballroom Republicans because while they are [SPEAKER_03]: We're worried about making sure that you got the money for your food, for your rent, for your health care. [SPEAKER_03]: This is not a hard comparison when you got Republicans who, I'm sorry, but we've got to have Donald Trump's ballroom. [SPEAKER_03]: Shut up, idiots. [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, I know you got to go Richard.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got to go get to sleep because you got to get to early tomorrow. [SPEAKER_03]: So who do you got coming in tomorrow? [SPEAKER_05]: Well, we've got a couple of big, big, big names, but the biggest one of all, of course, is Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Brilliant. [SPEAKER_05]: We have him on every, first Friday of the month. [SPEAKER_05]: And so tomorrow's first of the month in the first Friday.
[SPEAKER_05]: So Brennan Johnson will be with us tomorrow. [SPEAKER_05]: And we have been really fortunate in having that hat in mind. [SPEAKER_05]: It's great. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic that I'm going to be listening into tomorrow morning. [SPEAKER_03]: So you guys should too, Richard, we will see you tomorrow morning on the air and back here at the bar soon. [SPEAKER_03]: John, if you're saying tagging out with me for a little bit longer here on a Thursday night, hang on.
[SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: The first day night, here at the politics bar, you guys know what that means. [SPEAKER_03]: It is, of course, time for the modern only John Figuelsang, because been with us for like a segment and a half already, but now it's just John and me and you hanging out for trying to go get some sleep, because you know, he's got Mayor Johnson tomorrow morning.
[SPEAKER_03]: That by the way, Chicago proof, they have a big Johnson. [SPEAKER_03]: just saying he's tall. [SPEAKER_03]: He's a really tall man. [SPEAKER_03]: Have you have you met Mayor Johnson before John? [SPEAKER_01]: I just know you're going to beat this Johnson as hard as you can. [SPEAKER_01]: This metaphor is thick and uh, in terms of you. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, some of us here. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of us beat a big Johnson.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a metaphor is being beaten and demands release at some point. [UNKNOWN]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there is something that that should be released and I don't know much of much of the many of our friends in the mainstream media are going to be releasing it or talking about it tonight, but I noticed it today, second day of Kegreff on the hill, being in a hole in front of the cameras [SPEAKER_03]: really really got to me today. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like Higgs at any way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know you're not a big fan of it. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't like him. [SPEAKER_03]: You're not a fan of it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a fan of him for many reasons. [SPEAKER_03]: The drunkenness, the misogyny, the general arrogance, ignorance, breaking laws, being an A whole, [SPEAKER_03]: But it's being an A. [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on camera, I think. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a certain kind of A. [SPEAKER_03]: Hold.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's been trying to lecture these members of Congress and saying that Democrats and some Republicans, aka people who don't agree with me and Donnie, don't love America as much as we do. [SPEAKER_03]: It's totally, it's a total show when yet there are still some people, some, Mago, true believers, whatever, who still, oh, he's, that's, that's the model of masculinity. [SPEAKER_03]: So I thought it was interesting when he let the curtain drop for just a little bit today.
[SPEAKER_03]: So. [SPEAKER_03]: For those of you know, we have, we have the details of the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: Hague Seth was, um, uh, on the hill, having hearing with the Senator of services committee today. [SPEAKER_03]: And before they had their big televised on C spam thing, they had a private meeting behind closed doors with the senators. [SPEAKER_03]: And there was a bit with Gillibrand. [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get the cut because it's a little bit long going back and forth.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have their five minutes [SPEAKER_03]: They started out very cordial. [SPEAKER_03]: They started out even kind of, you know, little bit smiling, kind of nice. [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm pretty sure it was Hague Seth, who said, well, you know, now that the cameras are here, things are going to be different. [SPEAKER_03]: And then he proceeds to go into his belligerent, little song and dance for Donald, and he's treating her like an A-hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm sitting there going, you just said, you just said, for those people who were paying attention to the actual words, that you had a nice conversation. [SPEAKER_03]: behind closed doors that it was was productive. [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't have to be in a hole. [SPEAKER_03]: You can get the job done clearly without being able. [SPEAKER_03]: All of this is for show. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going, it's a show that makes things difficult to get anything else done.
[SPEAKER_03]: The, for example, the, um, I don't think the show is why it's difficult to get anything. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's, that's part of it. [SPEAKER_03]: We can just talk about the money thing. [SPEAKER_03]: So the money today, um, they, his, his assistants, uh, K breath assistant, uh, let out and he seemed to look over and him. [SPEAKER_03]: He was a little pissed that, oh, well, well, they, they 25 billion was the cost of the war so far.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then today, it's like, well, 25 billion is a low ball that's real estimates are somewhere around 50 to 100 billion. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, and don't, yeah, and don't even include all of the war related costs. [SPEAKER_03]: but at least they got a number.
[SPEAKER_03]: The number of people house and Senate, both Republicans and Democrats, who spent much of their time just trying to get that number and who have spent weeks trying to get a baseline number of this is what we think it's costing us, but what is it actually costing us? [SPEAKER_03]: And his arrogance of, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I can't even remember who it was. [SPEAKER_03]: Might have been Adam Smith yesterday, and there was somebody else from the Senate.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was great with him. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And there was somebody else from the Senate today who basically paraded Smith and said, look, you're here on the hill, asking us, we have the money. [SPEAKER_03]: We have a, you know, you want a trillion and a half dollars. [SPEAKER_03]: More than anybody has ever gotten in your position before and you want the money. [SPEAKER_03]: You're asking it for us. [SPEAKER_03]: So we're asking you, where's the money going?
[SPEAKER_03]: And yet he's going, well, you know, I could be nice and give you the numbers and we could talk about it seriously and talk about taking care of members of a military and taking care of and instead he's doing this dog and pony show to try and show Donnie how rough and tough he is. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, but that's the job. [SPEAKER_01]: That's his job. [SPEAKER_01]: I know going to make that he happy on the TV, right? [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's why you do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Pete Hegseth is not running the Pentagon. [SPEAKER_01]: Pete Hegseth is is live blogging a midlife crisis. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, like no, like not wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: He takes at this next on who's going to get voted off the island. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's never cash. [SPEAKER_01]: And it all depends on who's more sober as to, well, no, this is this is cabinet survivor out with outlast out blame. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the whole thing is well, which henchmen flunky and fall guy will be the next one to take the blame for a terrible Trump policy that they tried to implement. [SPEAKER_01]: And then get sent to Christy, no, myland. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, Christy, no, got fired for Trump's terrible ice policy, killing people in Minnesota, Pam Bondi got fired because Donald Trump is all over the Epstein files.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as one of these, you know, flunkies becomes inconvenient to a scandal, supervised by a flunky touches Trump. [SPEAKER_01]: He lances him like a boil and they go away and take all the blame. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Pete Heggsett is like, [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, watching the hearing, he's like the guy who's, he's screaming at the Applebee's hostess because his mozzarella sticks are ladies that guy, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Pete Higgs at this the guy who's explaining crypto while doing lines of coke at a divorce party. [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's the sky. [SPEAKER_01]: He shows up in Congress and he makes, like, having hangover breath look like a management philosophy. [SPEAKER_01]: The whole time, it's like two months, no clear objective, no clear end, a billion a day. [SPEAKER_01]: So it could be 25, but it could be 60, gas prices going up.
[SPEAKER_01]: way of determining success. [SPEAKER_01]: The troops are deployed Iran's laughing on us. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're related their nuclear capabilities, but then had to go obliterate them. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're obliterated is doing a lot of work here. [SPEAKER_03]: There are a few great pieces we've got actually about some of that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the first round of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: There's one from Adam Sirwer.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, just saying blockade of the blockade. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But that's the whole, the whole, the presidency. [SPEAKER_01]: This much obstruction since the last time he went to the colon, doctor, you know what I'm saying, folks, we're 25 billion into this forever war because Donald Trump looked at his new presidency and looked at the Middle East and thought, I need the drunkest guy at Fox News. [SPEAKER_01]: And here we are.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, well, the Cragman lays out. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, the only way the Iran war ends is basically no real deal. [SPEAKER_03]: That it's basically everybody is going to have to kind of back down, give somebody else some saving face stuff which that's all it is. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It ends by them leaving and saying we won. [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. [SPEAKER_01]: And nothing changed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It ends by them taking the same exact deal that Barack Obama was able to get without thousands of people dying. [SPEAKER_02]: But that's the big. [SPEAKER_01]: And then the clearing victory and strutting and they have to do it urgently before the midterms. [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is the problem is Mr. Netanyahu doesn't want it to end. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Mr. Netanyahu. [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Putin doesn't want it to end either.
[SPEAKER_03]: We had a story about that in the news on tap in the other foreign affairs section. [SPEAKER_03]: I believe is Monday or Tuesday about the fact that Netanyahu's the other former prime ministers and his rivals, basically most of the other parties are starting to gather together and gang up on him because there's an election coming, whether he wants it or not. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, you know what, your ass needs to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have gotten, you, you have caused enough trouble now, BB. [SPEAKER_03]: But as far as this goes, I mean, the biggest thing is, so it's been interesting to know over the weekend, while Donald was staying there, standing there, Hannes pants playing with his ballroom. [SPEAKER_03]: What I'm saying you was, the Iranian foreign minister, noticed nowhere to find Marco. [SPEAKER_03]: The Iranian foreign minister was over here to Saudi Arabia and he goes to Oman and he goes to Russia.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he comes back and he basically eats everybody on the table to say, look, we'll [SPEAKER_03]: virtually the same thing with the JCPOA. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you'll give us more of our cashback because we're a ran and you're holding a lot of our cash. [SPEAKER_03]: But you'll give us more of our money back. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll give you the JCPOA without that nasty black man's name on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you can call it the Donald Trump agreement, whatever the hell you want to call it, Donnie. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're doing all the work. [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't like Iran's government. [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm seeing me going, when even they're doing that, well, Donald was just standing there playing with his puts. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm going, come on, this is, it's, and, and look, you've got, like, Chancellor Murs, who is, he's fed up with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The King and Queen were over here, basically having to cope for, for, for, for, Starmer, because Starmer's fed up with it. [SPEAKER_03]: Macron's even fed up with Donald. [SPEAKER_03]: They're all like, dude, take the win.
[SPEAKER_03]: Take the W. [SPEAKER_03]: take the new version of the JCPOA and put your crayon scroll on it and be done with this thing and let the world get back to doing what the rest of us want to do instead of making it a pain and the echo, go play with your ballroom. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, speaking of which.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the shooting and the ballroom thing, I've had a contention and I've talked about it a couple of times here this week with some of our different guest hosts and I want to see what you think about this. [SPEAKER_03]: So, [SPEAKER_03]: The right wing media is trying to pull this thing where they want, they want to do a little from Pile A and a little from Pile B.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've said either it needs to be something that was, this was, let's say that this was a very big deal that this attempted assassin was a big deal that maybe there were things that should have been gotten that the secret service missed, maybe there was training the secret service needed or maybe they need staff or maybe the, [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then we also need to look at every single natsass, every dime, every penny, everything about that ballroom.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's if it's actually a big deal. [SPEAKER_03]: Or like the right way media is saying, well, really wasn't that big of a deal. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Donald didn't get hurt. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody really got hurt except that one secret service guy is vast and the idiot who, you know, tried to do it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that big a deal. [SPEAKER_03]: And because it's not that big a deal, we want to use that to try to shoehorn in the ballroom.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I go, if it's not a big deal, then you can't use that to justify the ballroom. [SPEAKER_03]: If it was a big deal, then we get to look at everything that goes along with the ballroom. [SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the other, you can't pick from Plan A and Plan B at the same time and put it together. [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know what your thought was on that, because I, that's, you know, the, I mean, well, I mean, look, we knew they'd exploit it for some reason, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm naive, I thought it would be the insurrection act. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it would be to stop an election. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it would be the ballroom and Kimmel. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think we were gonna get, you know, the cover band's greatest hits at the state fair. [SPEAKER_01]: But that's the solution to gun violence kids, not background checks, not storage laws, not tighter security protocols. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a ball.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Versailles theme banquet hall, other people pay for it. [SPEAKER_01]: The White House Correspondent Center is not a White House event, so it's not hosted by the government. [SPEAKER_01]: This never would have been in the White. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at you, future former Senator Federman, no one forced Trump or Vans or the Plunkies to go to Nerd Prom.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the idea that taxpayers now have to fund this illegal vanity ballroom because a private dinner had a security breach. [SPEAKER_01]: is insane. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like, I love the way you put that. [SPEAKER_01]: And then I demand Congress build me a safer breadstick line. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I want to say, I need an atrium for the breadsticks that I'll have garden Congress. [SPEAKER_01]: Can I say a thing about the killer?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not a killer, it's the shooter. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, the damn fool, I should say, this damn fool with easy access to guns, because that's who it was. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I hate to disappoint my friends on the left who are hungry for a good conspiracy theory. [SPEAKER_01]: And I love conspiracy theories.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like conspiracy facts, but if you read this guy's a manifesto, you'll understand that he is a clown with main character syndrome. [SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, I don't fault anybody. [SPEAKER_01]: who believes this was staged, especially after all of the chicaneary with butler pennsylvania. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: We never saw a hospital report. [SPEAKER_01]: Only Ronnie Jackson came out to a drug case and said he's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wears this maxi pad to cover an ear that miraculously had an AR-15 round caused no cartilage damage. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: You've seen the videos of how they let this guy bounce around the stage when there's a shooter, so they can lower a flag yet. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Congress has not had an investigation. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: President was shot at and he blocked a congressional [SPEAKER_01]: a guide tried to shoot proud Ronald Reagan 45 years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: We all know that guy's name still. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: How many people still remember the name of the Republican kid who tried to shoot Trump two summers ago? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: How many people remember the name of that? [SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't Trump talk about that? [SPEAKER_01]: Why doesn't Trump want an investigation of that kid? [SPEAKER_01]: So all of this is why I don't fall anybody for not believing this, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But the record is sometimes [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes an idiot with easy access to guns is just an idiot with with easy access to guns and he was not righteous he was not brave but you have to believe that they hired this guy I don't know if you have to believe it on I mean he's he's people look we've we've we've seen crazy people you know Ted Kazinsky we've seen Ted Kazinsky we know that there are there are levels of of crazy and idiocy
[SPEAKER_03]: This got, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not caping for him, but I don't know how this man's wired first of all. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how he's wired, but you have to believe they can't. [SPEAKER_01]: If you think it's a conspiracy, you have to believe they hired a, uh, uh, a tutor, a math tutor in Tarantz. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: To bring a couple of guns across country on a train.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who apologizes to every second to the hotel the day before shooting. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for causing issues. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry for those people who are staying at the hotel who might be disrupted. [SPEAKER_03]: I apologize to all of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going, [SPEAKER_03]: when is the last time that you heard anybody in a situation like this who wrote in their manifesto i'm really sorry i'm messing up your dinner i mean they they don't that never happens and then to say well this guy was somehow hired or connor position into it i'm with you it is the conspiracy theories are ridiculous as far as i'm concerned you have to believe they hired this guy to carry out the most inept false flag operation in history
[SPEAKER_01]: because Trump wanted to look old and weak and scared and fall down on stage. [SPEAKER_01]: There's that too. [SPEAKER_01]: Again, you know. [SPEAKER_01]: And authoritarian's love this stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: He proved the tragic irony. [SPEAKER_01]: You try to hurt Trump. [SPEAKER_01]: You help him. [SPEAKER_01]: Because authoritarian's use the violence committed against them to justify violence against everyone else. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in his manifesto, this guy wrestled with Christianity. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure. [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, one more round here on a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: You got John Fugelsang. [SPEAKER_03]: You got me Sean Smith Pierce. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be talking about, uh, you know, little conspiracy and kind of knocking it down. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, you know, low-christianity because John's here. [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh you drink and come on back. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Thursday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Last call on a Thursday night, here's politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much for being here all right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I love the fact that basically it's, uh, it was what friendly fire that hit the this secret service agent. [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently not story yet, but Todd Blanch has not confirmed that, uh, the guy ever fired around, which means he probably never got off around. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Which to me, it's not a good assassin folks. [SPEAKER_01]: He brings the guns all the way across country. [SPEAKER_01]: Check into the hotel the day before.
[SPEAKER_01]: because your plan is to run really fast, pass security and hope you can run down a flight of stairs before they tackle you. [SPEAKER_03]: With the gun, a lot of it. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're only trying to get, you know, the into a place that has the President of United States, the Vice President, the Speaker of the House, other members of the cabinet and virtually every major media organization in the country.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, I am certain that if you can run that fast yet dead. [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I, I grew through. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of the conspiracy theories are dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: I get white people. [SPEAKER_03]: I get the half-assiness and the reactions of some of the people and why people would believe that it was staged. [SPEAKER_03]: But then you look at the thousand word manifesto of the, what do you want to call them?
[SPEAKER_03]: A saltier, shooter, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, [SPEAKER_03]: That the whole thing, the whole list of people that he apologized to the kids that I've taught. [SPEAKER_03]: I apologize to my parents.
[SPEAKER_03]: I apologize to, you know, I'm like, good Lord, man, you started with a whole list of apologies, and then he goes into which I, okay, but then there's a lot of, well, you're, I mean, obviously, you're better at this than I am, clearly, for umpteen different reasons, including your book separation, church, and hate, which people do not have.
[SPEAKER_03]: They should absolutely go subscribe and, you know, get that off your favorite e-reader or [SPEAKER_03]: the whole thing of trying to justify the killing with the Bible. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's been the thing that I know that, you know, you me and Jodi have talked about before that blows our minds because it's pretty clear when Jesus says, you know, killing not good. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Not a thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't don't do the killing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't do it. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet some people are like, well, you know, Jesus said I could kill. [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, no, Jesus did not say you can kill. [SPEAKER_03]: And this would be a salent. [SPEAKER_03]: It's trying to use the Bible to justify his actions. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he grew up in a rather conservative church where women are second-class citizens. [SPEAKER_01]: And then at a PRC became more progressive in his own life.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really interesting, because these things, in spite of what conservatives will tell you, are never really done that often by conservatives. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these things are not done either by liberals, how often are our conservatives, the ones who get assassinated, and when they do, you know, Donald Trump's last to assassination attempts, one was by a Republican kid and one was by a guy who voted for Trump in 2016.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Charlie Kirk, we still don't know what that was about, but it seems like it was a kid from a Republican family. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy, Cole Allen, 31 from Torrance, he's single ladies. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, he makes this real big thing of wrestling with Christianity and how Jesus commands us to turn together cheek. [SPEAKER_01]: His rationale is when Jesus told him, by the way, Jesus says a lot more than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says, put away your, your, your sword for those who live by the sword will die by the sword. [SPEAKER_01]: Blessed are the peacemakers, um, love your enemies. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, he's, he's not really big on kicking ass because someone deserves it. [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the last thing Jesus ever says to his friends, he refuses to let them defend him when they come to take him away. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the last thing he says in his life, he asked God to forgive the people who are murdering him. [SPEAKER_01]: So he's not really big on violence or retribution. [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy says, well, when Jesus says to any other cheek, he was talking to an oppressed people. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not an oppressed people, but I'm going to do this to take out an oppressor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the same morally diseased fake Christian argument that the right wing extremists have used for years to justify violence against abortion providers. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to commit violence because evil left me no choice. [SPEAKER_01]: That's always the argument.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you think that murder is justified because your target is evil, then you have arrived at the same logic that was used by every fanatic, every terrorist, every holy warrior in history. [SPEAKER_01]: That Christianity is as fake as Donald Trump's Bible prop. [SPEAKER_01]: It's as fake as Hexeth's crusader Cosplay. [SPEAKER_01]: It's as faith as JD Vance's selective scripture starter pack. [SPEAKER_01]: This guy was not righteous. [SPEAKER_01]: He was not brave.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a goddamn fool with weapons on a main character syndrome. [SPEAKER_01]: And the irony is he did this to hurt Trump. [SPEAKER_01]: But again, authoritarian's weaponized this stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: political violence against the authoritarian doesn't weaken authoritarianism. [SPEAKER_01]: It strengthens it. [SPEAKER_01]: It gives them a martyr complex. [SPEAKER_01]: It makes people more terrified and it gives them a justification for more crackdowns.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't work. [SPEAKER_01]: God bless the people of Minnesota for not throwing a break at an ice agent. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, every now and then you have to have some damn full come and just prove once again that violence doesn't work. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's always men who are proving it. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the hardest thing to do is to be kind. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot. [SPEAKER_03]: It's easy. [SPEAKER_03]: Violences is easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And [SPEAKER_03]: getting angry is easy. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we all get angry about a lot of this stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: And in fact, that some of the people that are in mega world, it is their goal to poke you and me with a stick and piss us off and get us inflamed for all kinds of reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some of because they like to see other people in in pain, they like to see other people hurt and angry and frustrated, which is sick, but if that's their deal, I mean, whips and chains, whatever, I'm not judging, you know, I'm not [SPEAKER_03]: The whole thing is that the tough part, the tough part about Jesus, the tough part about most good faiths, I think, is the heroes of those faiths are people who when they are faced with [SPEAKER_03]: adversity.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't respond with violence. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with thought. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with peace. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with love. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with justice. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with kindness. [SPEAKER_03]: They respond with stuff that's hard for all of us to do because anger is easy. [SPEAKER_03]: Violence is easy. [SPEAKER_03]: We are not that far removed from animals who don't have a whole lot of higher thinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not that far removed from, you know, pick up a sticker or rock and throwing it when we get angry. [SPEAKER_03]: We're not that far removed from three-year-olds. [SPEAKER_03]: Most of us. [SPEAKER_03]: We've been three-year-olds who get mad and throw our toys. [SPEAKER_03]: So the idea that [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that this guy is using the Bible and using Jesus and saying, well, I'm going to use violence because, you know, that would be good. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really do. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, I would love it if something like pre-crime worked reminds me of Donald Trump, by the way, I'm sure you saw John they're bringing back other ways to do cruelty with the death penalty.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it would be great if the death penalty actually worked and we could still have justice in places around the world like Singapore where you know you spit on something and they'll cane your ass or you know you do something else and you know 30 days in your dead people go oh yes that that works yes, but they don't actually have liberty and justice there they don't have a whole lot of freedom it is kind of scary in many ways to live there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So death penalty doesn't work as a deterrent. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't work to stop cry. [SPEAKER_03]: I wish it did. [SPEAKER_03]: Then we'd know we go, okay, if you do this, then we would say, well, don't do this or you die. [SPEAKER_03]: And then people would not do that. [SPEAKER_03]: We go great. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't actually, they just all you have to do is threaten them and say, hey, this is the consequences. [SPEAKER_03]: But people don't think that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not how people are when they're committing those types of actions. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't work. [SPEAKER_03]: So because it doesn't work and because there are so many people who have been put on death row, who shouldn't be their innocent. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but the death penalty to me is not something that we can afford to have.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just not something that we can have and the idea that you can stop people beforehand by punishing them or by even committing violence and killing them. [SPEAKER_03]: Can't do that. [SPEAKER_03]: Can't do that either. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't look into the future and do that. [SPEAKER_03]: We do not have that billy. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe someday they'll have time travel technology and the future people will come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: But [SPEAKER_03]: I don't see that that being anything in our lifetimes or anything realistic at any point in time soon. [SPEAKER_03]: And even then you still have to deal with the ethical question of, is it okay? [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not. [SPEAKER_03]: At least my thought. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not Christian.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus never mentions abortion, but frequently is against killing the sinner. [SPEAKER_01]: He overturns an execution. [SPEAKER_01]: He says, only sinless people may execute. [SPEAKER_01]: He commands you to forgive 70 times seven. [SPEAKER_01]: And in his very first ever gig, sermon on the Mount, he overturns I for an eye. [SPEAKER_01]: He cancels the concept of retributive justice.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you're telling me that you want a ban abortion, which Jesus never talked about, because [SPEAKER_01]: You support the death penalty, which Jesus actually opposed, then the rest of us aren't obliged to take your claims of Christian Piety seriously anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not simple. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: People are frauds. [SPEAKER_01]: They use Jesus.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't follow him and you don't have to believe any part of the Bible is literal fact to call these people out. [SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing but camouflage for them. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I just it's although it's religion is whatever I want anyway, and I'll say God wants to do. [SPEAKER_03]: It does help the ability to to to call them out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, anybody can have the right to call them out, but the ability to do so well, it is helped oftentimes by having your book. [SPEAKER_03]: You're first one.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're working on the second one, I know, but, but it's just it's just the fact that I [SPEAKER_03]: In some ways that hypocrisy to me, and obviously not at the same level, but the hypocrisy of the right and of the would be assassin trying to use Jesus to defend his actions in some ways goes along with hypocrisy of the national media folks who were there. [SPEAKER_03]: Because to me, I'm Parker Maloy, who, I don't know if you've had her on your show and John, she's she's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: You should get her on. [SPEAKER_03]: She's she's she's great. [SPEAKER_03]: She wrote a piece earlier this week and Goldie Taylor, she's back doing some stuff too when you get her on too. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they, they both wrote pieces that basically said, look, we need to end the White House correspondent's dinner. [SPEAKER_03]: It's time to end the dinner because it doesn't serve a good purpose anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: we should not be as members of the media as legitimate journalists. [SPEAKER_03]: We should not be rubbing elbows with the people that we that we're focused on that we're focused on covering. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not something that we should be doing because it's it's it's unethical and and it really among other things just as a base level thing. [SPEAKER_03]: We have a huge problem in this country with people trusting the news media.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't trust the news media for rightful reasons. [SPEAKER_03]: And when you've got people who are, you know, gas is five and six dollars a gallon, people are struggling to afford even the very basics. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you have somebody who, well, I rented this $1200 gallon for one night, so I could rub elbows with the people that I'm covering. [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't you trust me? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, I think it's pretty obvious right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like, you know, it's on your t-shirts. [SPEAKER_03]: I can see exactly why you're, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I just hope the mentalist got to finish his set. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's the real tragedy to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard he was booked was he wasn't he booked on Kimmel and then he like cut out or something like that I guess no idea Yeah, I think he was I think Jimmy will be fine by the way Donald's polls and the They're not going to cancel it because they've already made plans to guard the next one with a perimeter of sea shells to scare off any would be attackers so they're really ahead of it already they've already fixed the problem
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... says they they they called up james coming and got some advice i see yes that makes sense uh... and of course all of all of the wonderful posts from all the people on the right who uh... have to have they did eighty six forty six about so many things and then they're being presented with that and saying it was okay when it was Biden now you're saying it's not okay when it's trump [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Who do you got in your show tonight?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you had Simon and Julie. [SPEAKER_01]: Simon and Julie, and a bunch of other pre-tapes, I've got to run off to Series 6 and do a pre-tap right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_03]: Sean, thank you for filling in. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look, remember, it took you and Richard Chu to fill in for Jody Hamilton tonight. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for having me. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for being here.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you next week here at the barge on. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much on the way there buddy. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, peace. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, really tomorrow night. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, we have Karen and Anita of the true blue politics podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: They will be in all night long. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you got comments, whatever, put them on the social media and we'll get your comments tomorrow.
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