Stop Being Afraid October 29, 2025

[SPEAKER_03]: It's political Thank you, radical You think it's far away But you are the politics Shocksmith Pearson Showy Hamilton Jody Jody Jody Jody Jody Johnny Shawney Shawney Johnny It is Hope night [SPEAKER_08]: It is hope day. [SPEAKER_08]: It is hope day.

[SPEAKER_08]: So thank you very much by the way for all of you who have hung out with us so far this week and who are hanging out with us this evening Bob Cesca will be back He of the Bob Cesca show and trek politics which we're pretty glad about you haven't seen Bob in a couple of weeks We'll have to ask him about his venture with the ches old web stuff. [SPEAKER_08]: That's something interesting. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a thing

[SPEAKER_08]: it is it's pretty cool also we got a lot in the news on tap today and of course we have a little I mean it is on I'm it's kind of a dark drink if you will for the drink of the day it's little little dark drink just saying you know don't do it don't go wrong I'm creating a really bad day just don't go throwing yourself out of window please don't do that all I'm saying exactly you know do do not do not pretend to be part of Putin's gang that's just not a good idea

[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, thank you to everybody who was listening on all of our great radio affiliates, whether you happen to be listening on WCPT, AMA 20, or maybe AM950 in Minneapolis, St. Paul, maybe you're listening on George and now ready on Atlanta or D2 or talk in Tennessee, or maybe you're listening on progressive voices radio worldwide, or ever you happen to be, or maybe just maybe you're one of those brilliant people who was listening on the podcast and you're listening live.

[SPEAKER_08]: you've subscribed to the podcast you put it in your phone you've grabbed the phone of other people on the bus at the cafe where especially strangers exactly put put our podcast into their phone especially people with mega hats on they will appreciate it trust us it is kind of a little troll when we say that but uh... hey we're not the only ones trolling good lord i know god

[SPEAKER_08]: absolutely pissing me up we'll have to talk about tiny johnson and Donnie's a little troll going on today. [SPEAKER_08]: Also we want to talk about it yesterday and we forgot Donnie's wondering all over Asia literally wondering What's definitely called it the sort of crest the meandering room by Kind of kind of I think a bit more as Donald is eye wing right now [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: You know what Iowa stands for.

[SPEAKER_08]: I W. O. [SPEAKER_08]: A. [SPEAKER_08]: It eats out wondering around. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry that people that listen to us and Iowa. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm apologizing on behalf of Sean Louise. [SPEAKER_08]: I have lived in Iowa. [SPEAKER_08]: I helped Obama and Biden win in Iowa. [SPEAKER_08]: My brother lives in Iowa. [SPEAKER_08]: That said. [SPEAKER_08]: For those of you who live in Iowa and are listening to us, you happen to know there are some idiots there.

[SPEAKER_08]: However, they are not as bad as Maryland drivers. [SPEAKER_08]: Maryland drivers are some of the words. [SPEAKER_05]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry for Maryland drivers. [SPEAKER_05]: Sean, this is not the reflection of Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_08]: This is, this is, this is Jody right now. [SPEAKER_08]: She's saying Sean. [SPEAKER_08]: Look, we like you wherever you are. [SPEAKER_08]: But, and I look, I have some really good friends in Maryland. [SPEAKER_08]: I just, I think.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, I. Maryland drivers are not so great, you know? [SPEAKER_08]: Just because you're a great person, don't mean you can do everything well. [SPEAKER_08]: And just because you're an idiot, doesn't necessarily mean that everything you do is wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: We've been, you know, talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene. [SPEAKER_08]: And her contributions to the shutdown fight as it were. [SPEAKER_05]: So uh to the news on tab before we go on you know who lives in Maryland.

[SPEAKER_05]: Bob Saska. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but Bob can Bob actually can drive. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just letting you know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know Bob lives in that part of the DC area and Bob's great, but Bob can drive. [SPEAKER_08]: And Bob didn't always live in there. [SPEAKER_08]: He's, he's lived lots of places. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, he grew up there, I think. [SPEAKER_05]: I think he was, was it, was it Maryland? [SPEAKER_08]: Was it in DC?

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, he's lived in multiple parts of the DC area, I believe. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm not sure. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, ask him. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, all right. [SPEAKER_05]: Move on to the M.T.G. [SPEAKER_05]: OK, so just want to let you know that our guests is from Maryland. [SPEAKER_08]: No, no, look, like I said, I like Maryland as a state. [SPEAKER_05]: I think Maryland is a great state. [SPEAKER_08]: I think you might live there now, technically.

[SPEAKER_05]: Don't you live, he's a Delaware. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, Biden lived in Delaware. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, Obama, I was thinking of lives. [SPEAKER_08]: I think Calarama might be, and I think it's on this side. [SPEAKER_08]: Anyway, look, Maryland is great. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just some of your drivers need some help, just saying that's all. [SPEAKER_08]: So anyway, it's a DC thing. [SPEAKER_08]: It's from the news on tap, drawn one out of there tonight.

[SPEAKER_08]: So the shutdown pain is set to spike this weekend. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And we're still talking about, yeah, we're still talking about the two things. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, the ACA increases every day. [SPEAKER_08]: More people are seeing what it's going to go to. [SPEAKER_08]: And they are absolutely going. [SPEAKER_08]: A crap ballistic as you should be. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you know, this is not anything small.

[SPEAKER_08]: This is not a tiny increase at all for most people. [SPEAKER_08]: And then of course, [SPEAKER_08]: There's the food, the food aid, which we have been talking about for quite a while now. [SPEAKER_08]: We've got a few pieces there in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_08]: More than two dozen states are suing the Trump regime over their plan refusal to stop the food aid for the poor. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, here's the thing. [SPEAKER_08]: They're not all democratic states.

[SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: There are a couple of Republican states in there, which good for them. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Democrats are still holding firm on this because they still have the three things. [SPEAKER_08]: And you need to keep contacting. [SPEAKER_08]: I know if you've contacted your local media or the national media organization, you've said, I did that. [SPEAKER_08]: You guys asked us to. [SPEAKER_08]: We did that. [SPEAKER_08]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_08]: Please contact them again, because they seem to be not paying attention to the fact of the three things that Democrats [SPEAKER_08]: No, Baxis, almost everybody in the media keeps forgetting that. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, they'll just make a deal. [SPEAKER_08]: Why would I make a deal with anybody who's going to back out on the deal? [SPEAKER_08]: I agree. [SPEAKER_08]: Why would you? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: You wouldn't.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you're setting up a contract for a shoot, Jodie, for a show for, you know, anything. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Why would you make a deal with anybody who's going to back out? [SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't. [SPEAKER_05]: That's just dumb contract law. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, no, no maga that I know of that I've talked to who I put if I posted this to I've, you know, talk with whatever and now now that would be dumb.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So literally everybody agrees if you're going to make a deal stick with the deal. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the whole point of a deal. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, but the national media keeps going. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know why the Democrats won't make a deal with the Republicans. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they're not listening.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, because there have been plenty of Democrats have gone on the news shows and have said that. [SPEAKER_05]: But the media is still going to the ACA, which is also a big thing. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's Medicare and Medicaid big things. [SPEAKER_08]: But they can make state of the fact that the Republicans aren't going to hold the deal because it's an actual fact. [SPEAKER_08]: Then some of the magnifokes would go, well, you're not in my side.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, because you don't want to make a deal and you don't want to be honest. [SPEAKER_05]: No, they're just, I mean, don't get me started on tiny Johnson and others. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And I get mad at the media, you do too. [SPEAKER_08]: We all do. [SPEAKER_08]: Because of the fact that you've got to state it clearly.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you walk down the street, if somebody's walking down the street, and they reach out and slap your grandma, is that somebody that's okay? [SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: So you say, that is not okay. [SPEAKER_08]: In this case, Democrats are simply saying to Republicans in Congress, you want to make a deal. [SPEAKER_08]: Have to be honest, you have to be willing to go through with the deal.

[SPEAKER_08]: But the news media is like, but if I say that, they'll be mad. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, be mad, suck it up. [SPEAKER_08]: Second up, bugger cut. [SPEAKER_08]: Bingo. [SPEAKER_08]: All right. [SPEAKER_08]: So we know that's the first thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Second thing is getting the ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_08]: Third thing is getting the money back for Medicare and Medicaid. [SPEAKER_08]: And we all know that third thing probably isn't going to happen.

[SPEAKER_08]: But Democrats are at least fighting for it. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's what we've wanted them to do. [SPEAKER_08]: So, hey! [SPEAKER_08]: reported Burgess Everett, I believe he's with Semaphore right now. [SPEAKER_08]: He's been number of places. [SPEAKER_08]: He's pretty good.

[SPEAKER_08]: He was saying earlier today that there may be some some positive vibes coming from folks on the Appropriations Committee, which basically means that [SPEAKER_08]: multiple members of approach appropriations have talked to him and leaked and said well we're talking and they are at least admitting that Republicans now are talking with Democrats some of the house Republicans so they're at least starting to talk which is great but Democrats still need to hold on that's a great

[SPEAKER_05]: No, they're doing the right thing right now is awful as it is for everybody that's not getting paid and all of this. [SPEAKER_05]: They're doing it because they want to make sure that when they make a deal, it's six. [SPEAKER_05]: That's. [SPEAKER_08]: Joe, he's 100% right. [SPEAKER_05]: You know, they want to, they want to open the government. [SPEAKER_05]: They want to pay everybody. [SPEAKER_05]: They want the snap benefits to go out. [SPEAKER_05]: They want the ATA.

[SPEAKER_05]: and it's just with this Republican house and Senate and President, they can't get it done, and so they're trying to make a point. [SPEAKER_05]: And finally, they have a spine, which I'm like, yeah, Democrats have found a spine. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know where it was, but they found it. [SPEAKER_08]: There are some good Democrats that have spines or maybe we'll talk about that in some other places as well.

[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, somebody who has a spine was turd got shut down. [SPEAKER_08]: This one's also in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_08]: Looks like a judge has shut down Russ Vott till further notice. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, this one's under the section under the first round section called mechanics of failure. [SPEAKER_08]: Federal judge has extended the order bar in the borrowing, Russ fought and the Trump administration from mass firings of federal workers till further notice.

[SPEAKER_08]: Good. [SPEAKER_08]: So, hey Russ. [SPEAKER_08]: Suck it. [SPEAKER_08]: Because there's no reason to fire these people. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's not legal. [SPEAKER_08]: This is what, remember when Rebecca was here, what, like four weeks ago, five weeks ago, and the shutdown was just starting. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And she went through the five things of, this is the reason that these things are all illegal actions.

[SPEAKER_08]: And even if they take them, they'll get hauled in the court, they'll get their ass beat, and then they'll have to give these people back. [SPEAKER_08]: They're jobs, and they're back pay, because that's the law. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And yet, Russ Vot goes, [SPEAKER_08]: Well, guess what, Russ, you're wrong, suck it. [SPEAKER_05]: So it's just, and they're just firing people because it's fun for them. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, well, the cruelty is the point.

[SPEAKER_08]: The cruelty has, I know Adam Sir were journalists coined that phrase, but he's right for, for mega Republicans. [SPEAKER_08]: The cruelty of other people is the point. [SPEAKER_08]: That is the point of, [SPEAKER_08]: Doing what they've been doing, hiring, firing, and all the doge bags, this is that's the point of making people scared about not being able to get food for next week, about not being able to pay for their insurance.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's always, that is always, oh, oh, and so we have this clip from Tiny Johnson. [SPEAKER_08]: For those people who are, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, Donald Trump is going to have a third term and remember we said that Donald Trump was trolling them.

[SPEAKER_01]: not only to Donald Trump admit that on the plane with its washing noise so we didn't play that but we will play this because tiny Johnson knows it and he's laughing about it here was yes uh... it's been a great run uh... but i think the president knows and he and i've talked about uh... the constrictions of the constitution as much as so many the american people lament that um... nobody's lamenting it twenty eight cap is one of the most popular that's ever been been produced and he has a uh... a good time with that

[SPEAKER_05]: throw in the Democrats here is on fire, but the very prospect, uh, oh, no, if he went went by the way, when he does throw his hat in the ring in 27, I want Obama to throw his hat in the ring. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I gotta find. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not saying that people shouldn't be prepared for them to play that game. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, he's going to try. [SPEAKER_05]: If he's alive, that's also the thing. [SPEAKER_05]: I think he may not be with us. [SPEAKER_05]: Is that point?

[UNKNOWN]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: But if he were to be with us in 27, say in February or March, just because they're trolling, just because they're trying. [SPEAKER_05]: He's not thinking about it. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Joe, he's right. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to destroy the West Wing. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, sorry, the East Wing. [SPEAKER_05]: He's probably going to destroy the West Wing, too. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, in other ways, he's done that.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, catch up fake gold on the walls. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he literally said, I'm not going to touch the East Wing. [SPEAKER_08]: and then it's gone yeah so i mean look just just because one is true it doesn't mean the other is true but the fact is folks he's trolling you and for all those of you who went ha ha hair on fire congratulations you did exactly what they wanted you to do so [SPEAKER_08]: smart enough folks.

[SPEAKER_08]: All right, it is a Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_08]: We got Bob Sesska coming up. [SPEAKER_08]: We have a drink of the day, which is a, it's a dark drink, but it's a good drink. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a dark drink for a dark day. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, kind of cloudy and rainy here too. [SPEAKER_08]: So look, freshen up your drink. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll come on back. [SPEAKER_08]: It's another night with Jody and me and you here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_08]: It's the politicsmark.com. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, Jody. [SPEAKER_08]: So yes, we will we will leave the bully discussion probably for another another day. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, just saying, you know, I mean, if there's close, strong around and well, whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: I'll just leave that hanging kind of like that brawl. [SPEAKER_08]: There you go. [SPEAKER_08]: Those of you who are not in the barn. [SPEAKER_08]: You just gotta say you got to pay attention.

[SPEAKER_08]: Alrighty back to the news on tap for the day so look we know that Democrats have been here the whole time I've seen actually some Democrats on national media thankfully holding their own as some of these these idiots I saw a clip from God who wasn't Melanie Stansberry believe of New Mexico and Jake Tapper who was being stupid and basically carrying water for Republicans and I don't know what's going on with him

[SPEAKER_08]: I think Tapper has always been a little bit of a Republican, but I think as his money is tied into it, and also the fact that the ownership of CNN is now in question and at the time that crap, all of the right wing idiots doing that, that he's kind of trying to position himself in that corner, which is just stupid, dude. [SPEAKER_08]: Just your integrity is worth more than that. [SPEAKER_08]: So any who.

[SPEAKER_08]: Anywho, all right, so back to the news on tap because, you know, that's one of the things we're year-round here. [SPEAKER_08]: Second round of the news on tap today, Trump's failing immigration wars, so not only has got failure in the streets, but failure in the, well, not sheets, courts. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, failure. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care what he's doing. [SPEAKER_08]: That I don't even want to know, that's that is.

[SPEAKER_08]: John the ways what were you thinking right there hey look people always say you know something in the streets something the streets that's that's how people are that yet and then this is this is so Donnie's failure in the streets border patrol agents under fire in the Chicago area [SPEAKER_08]: You folks at WCPT, y'all know we're talking about it. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, they totally know. [SPEAKER_08]: I think Richard was talking about it on his share was yesterday of the morning.

[SPEAKER_05]: And we'll talk to Karen and on Friday about it. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, right, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: But basically, this is what we mentioned a little bit yesterday. [SPEAKER_08]: They the judges ordered the daily appearance in her courtroom for Border Patrol official Greg Bavino because of the violence of CBP and ICE officials. [SPEAKER_08]: Basically, Bavino has detention.

[SPEAKER_08]: every day at 6 p.m. he has to come by and now in of course to you know some of the different media outlets he's been like oh yeah well I'm gonna tell her how bad it is and blah blah blah but from from pictures and things that were from right after the court appearance he actually seemed very chastised. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: I am fairly sure.

[SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen the court notes, but I'm fairly sure if the judge didn't say it, she implied it that if you or your guys get out of, at a hand, I will apply a little bit more pressure. [SPEAKER_05]: And they did this past weekend. [SPEAKER_08]: How the hell do you disrupt a Halloween parade for kids in a residential area? [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, and this man was driving home from a thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Tell that tell that story.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's 67 years old if I'm calling right. [SPEAKER_05]: He's a runner. [SPEAKER_05]: He's a walker. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's it. [SPEAKER_05]: It was just home from a thing. [SPEAKER_05]: He was driving into his own neighborhood. [SPEAKER_05]: They stopped him. [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to break his window, pulled him out of the car. [SPEAKER_05]: He's a white guy, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: And white guy, US citizen.

[SPEAKER_05]: US citizen, and they not only pulled him out of the car for driving to his home, but then need him. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll uh George Floyd. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And handcuffed him and took him. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, a couple of reds, dude. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Six ribs. [SPEAKER_05]: Jesus. [SPEAKER_05]: Six ribs. [SPEAKER_05]: Jesus. [SPEAKER_05]: How? [SPEAKER_05]: There was no reason that they they they they closed the streets off.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the streets were probably closed off for the parade, by the way. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Children. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: And then they just decided to. [SPEAKER_05]: There were words in my head that I'm not allowed to say because it's okay. [SPEAKER_05]: No, I did it. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll just I'll just say it for you. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, what they did to those children that are traumatized now. [SPEAKER_08]: All those kids are traumatized. [SPEAKER_05]: They're actually like one guy that might be an undocumented human. [SPEAKER_08]: You may or may not be. [SPEAKER_08]: I haven't heard a full thing on that. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: And he was working at the house. [SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't a danger to anybody. [SPEAKER_08]: This was, this was, I think that was another guy. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_08]: There was another guy that was, the whole crew that was working on a homery model. [SPEAKER_08]: And the guy was basically hanging outside the house, working on, I think, like, citing or something. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, they could have, they could have ended up pushing him off, fallen, he could have died. [SPEAKER_08]: When we get done with all of this, CBP and ICE need to be wiped out. [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't mean that we do need a border force of absolutely.

[SPEAKER_05]: We need border control. [SPEAKER_08]: And we need immigration in force. [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: But the folks who are there now, especially basically their entire records need to be gone through and everything needs to be gone through. [SPEAKER_08]: Nuremberg style trials exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: These are, this is the Gestapo in our country.

[SPEAKER_08]: And beating the hell out of people and scaring the hell out of kids, [SPEAKER_08]: U.S. citizens, remember all those people said, oh, they're just going to go after the bad people. [SPEAKER_08]: No, they're going after anybody they want. [SPEAKER_05]: If they were going after bad people, they wouldn't be in that neighborhood. [SPEAKER_08]: And even if there was a bad person, there are lots of ways to go after them. [SPEAKER_08]: It legally, safely.

[SPEAKER_08]: Right, that don't involve tear-gassing children and breaking the ribs of a 67-year-old U.S. citizen. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there was tear gas in that parade. [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, bovino. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, anyway, just... [SPEAKER_08]: So the full night circuit, by the way, did some nice things. [SPEAKER_08]: They are keeping Oregon's national guard efforts blocked for now, tossing out the order of those Trump judges that sided with Trump.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, there's what 29 people in the ninth circuit. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, but here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_08]: And this is something that a lot of people don't realize is that, yes, there are far more people on that circuit, far more judges on that circuit court that are not Trump appointees than [SPEAKER_08]: Most circuit judges take their job very seriously with respect not just their personal job, but their job as part of a team, their job as part of a circuit, because circuit decisions can often times be, oh god, what's the word?

[SPEAKER_08]: My brain is thinking of computer terms, propagated as the computer term, both out to other pollinating, or yeah, [SPEAKER_08]: And so they understand, when we make a decision for the whole circuit, any decisions that's made, that's one of the reasons why there are even conservative judges who are on the 11th circuit who absolutely hate Eileen Cannon, because she's made them all look stupid.

[SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, now, especially if there's a judgment that comes down in that circuit that involves Trump or the administration, everybody questions it because it comes out of the 11th circuit. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, Eileen Cannon. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So, judges don't like that. [SPEAKER_08]: Judges are like, look, we may not like everybody who's on our team, but the fact is, this is for this circuit, our team, and we need to provide a somewhat unified front.

[SPEAKER_08]: this was basically the circuit just smacking this down and saying no posicometatus you cannot just send military into a u.s. city do we know how many were pro or against i mean i know the two were pro going into portland i'm trying to remember the piece that we have that's in the news on tap [SPEAKER_08]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_08]: I love that you picked that one.

[SPEAKER_08]: He's got the whole ruling there as well, and I'm trying to see if he broke down the numbers on that. [SPEAKER_08]: I do not remember the actual breakdown. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't either. [SPEAKER_05]: It was a while ago. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there is there is as Jody mentioned, there are 29 active judges, I do not know the breakdown. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think he actually got the breakdown in it, but it just matters that the majority said nope. [SPEAKER_08]: It was a large majority.

[SPEAKER_08]: It was a very large majority. [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like an overwhelming is what Chris, I think, wrote was an overwhelming decision. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so I mean that the fact is they're just saying no, you can't just romp to it. [SPEAKER_08]: It might be 27 to two for all we know for all we know another federal judge, by the way, this is kind of an at legal arena, but ruled the Trump appointed US attorney in LA.

[SPEAKER_08]: Your corner of the bar, Jody has been unlawfully serving in his role, and he must be got rid of. [SPEAKER_08]: And he's also really bad at his job. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, this is the same thing as, uh, only in a hobba. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: And also, uh, what's her name? [SPEAKER_05]: Lindsey Howell. [SPEAKER_05]: Lindsey Howell again. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Which, which, I mean, that one.

[SPEAKER_08]: So there is a judge in God is Richmond, I think, who is hearing, uh, whether Lindsey Howell again was rightfully appointed her role in both the Colmy and James cases. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and the combi thing is just going to get blown up. [SPEAKER_05]: And so is the James thing. [SPEAKER_05]: They're both getting blown up. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: Both of them are going to get blown in part if not in whole because of the fact that Lindsey Halligan was not she was not picked by a group of judges to do this. [SPEAKER_08]: She's not qualified. [SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing. [SPEAKER_05]: She's not qualified. [SPEAKER_05]: She's a real estate lawyer, I believe.

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... real estate insurance uh... okay so if i were to buy a home in middle stator in what virginia i think i could go to her yeah i suppose if she's got her for the license but i'm fine with that because that's her expertise

[SPEAKER_08]: right she she should not be a u.s. attorney covering I mean stuff and she's never been a prosecutors and you're not going to hire an entertainment lawyer to do that job right nor a family attorney nor a real estate it I mean it's like there's so many different it's a specialty mm-hmm yeah some somebody who has a lifetime of prosecuting like um Frank Foglusey [SPEAKER_08]: Frank would know all about this kind of thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe we get him back to the bar.

[SPEAKER_08]: The land is her shener. [SPEAKER_08]: There you go. [SPEAKER_08]: See, we know lots of people on, you know, and we play, Joyce, fans, Joe Wayne Banks. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you know, those are the only ones I know offhand. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, look, we've got a lot of people here who know this type of stuff, but it's just funny that it's like, God, this is so obvious, and they're just, they keep doing this and it's just. [SPEAKER_05]: He, I believe Donald hires by eight by ten.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you look good, you'll get the game. [SPEAKER_08]: Jody is right. [SPEAKER_05]: I believe he hires by by DVR. [SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, is everybody good looking on this set? [SPEAKER_05]: And I said, I looked around and said, yeah, pretty much. [SPEAKER_05]: I said, we just hired by headshot. [SPEAKER_05]: We don't know if they can do their job. [SPEAKER_05]: And it was a joke, because of me, my gap for was really pretty. [SPEAKER_05]: The best boy was really pretty.

[SPEAKER_05]: Our makeup artist. [SPEAKER_08]: Our costumes. [SPEAKER_08]: The best boy. [SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't very much the best boy. [SPEAKER_05]: But it was just like, they were really pretty. [SPEAKER_05]: It was a really pretty crew. [SPEAKER_05]: That's nice. [SPEAKER_05]: But they all so knew what they were doing. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And that is always the key is having people who know what the hell they're doing.

[SPEAKER_08]: As opposed to people who look nice because they're an awful lot of people who look nice, who don't know a squat and there are people who, you know, don't look so nice and know their stuff. [SPEAKER_05]: Bella abs comes to mind from now. [SPEAKER_05]: Not the prettiest lady on the planet, but man, she knew what she was doing. [SPEAKER_08]: That's why she needs a glorious time.

[SPEAKER_08]: And some people just are You can look like all your Steinem and be smart like she is Where you can look like all your Steinem and not be smart Right exactly And unfortunately Donald seems to hire directly It's literally aged. [SPEAKER_05]: It's it's headshots man. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they just It's that he's casting a reality show [SPEAKER_08]: He is, but we actually live in reality, not in a reality show, which is what is, which is not reality children.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, hey, there is some good news about some bad things that happen in reality. [SPEAKER_08]: So yes, I don't knock down the East Wing, but this is, I caught this just before we got into the bar today, didn't even get into the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_08]: focusing on, among other things, the National Historic Preservation Act, some folks say that that doesn't apply to the White House, other people say it does, but look, long and short, the takedown of the East Wing did not follow laws, including about things like Asbestos, which conveniently, you actually mentioned already, Jody. [SPEAKER_08]: So once again, Jody is right. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, he fired the commission. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, he did that, too.

[SPEAKER_08]: That one we do have in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_08]: I believe that one happens to be in the third round under the Trump's mega world of governing. [SPEAKER_08]: So the Trump administration is fired the board that reviews presidential construction projects. [SPEAKER_08]: He's trying to fire all the people who will say no to him. [SPEAKER_08]: And they're like, oh, we'll put our people on. [SPEAKER_08]: But there's a whole other board that he doesn't have control over.

[SPEAKER_08]: And there are permits. [SPEAKER_08]: There are people who actually do permits. [SPEAKER_08]: And those people who do some of those permits. [SPEAKER_08]: They have permanent jobs. [SPEAKER_08]: He has no control over whether they have their job. [SPEAKER_08]: And if they sign off that something is safe when it's not, and a building collapses, they could not only lose their job, they could end up in prison. [SPEAKER_08]: So you can bet they're going to be doing their jobs, right?

[SPEAKER_08]: And Donald is not going to like that. [SPEAKER_08]: So too bad, Donnie. [SPEAKER_08]: Suck it. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, look, it is Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_08]: Bob Sask is going to be in here in a little bit, but first we got this dark. [SPEAKER_08]: Drink of the dark drink about a dark day dark drink about a dark drink dark day, but You're gonna like the drink and the history is a there's a silver lining to it. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think we've made one of these yet Have we?

[SPEAKER_08]: Nope, I don't think so. [SPEAKER_02]: Check it out next here at the politics We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar

[SPEAKER_08]: it is a Wednesday night here at politics bar digging into the news on tap a little bit so we decided you know we're gonna do the drink of the day kind of moving a little bit of different direction for a few minutes look if you missed some of the news on tap or you missed the drink of the day or you missed any part of the show the best thing you can do is subscribe to the podcast and if you do it at the politicsbar.com hey look it's only six dollars a month

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[SPEAKER_05]: It is, by the way, it's the birthday of the woman, one of the people that helped raise me, she worked in my mom and dad's house. [SPEAKER_05]: She's no longer with us, but she, we were close. [SPEAKER_05]: And so it is her birthday today. [SPEAKER_05]: She'd be in her, she'd be in her hundreds by now. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Her name was Jesse. [SPEAKER_08]: I can be in a grocery to Jesse, or in a roast period, maybe.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was almost named Jesse, but there were like, no, we have Jesse in the house. [SPEAKER_05]: We can't name the child, Jesse. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you could. [SPEAKER_05]: It would have been confusing. [SPEAKER_05]: And that's how I got my Scottish accent, because she was Scottish. [SPEAKER_08]: Nice. [SPEAKER_05]: I had a thick brogue apparently until it was about five. [SPEAKER_08]: So everybody's like, is that your child? [SPEAKER_08]: Your mom's like, well, the pens.

[SPEAKER_08]: What's she actually doing? [SPEAKER_05]: My parents had some people from England come over when I was four. [SPEAKER_05]: And I was going to bed and I said, good night and chatted with the person for a minute or two or whatever and I, you know, went up to bed. [SPEAKER_05]: And he goes, who is Scottish that works in this house? [SPEAKER_05]: And they're like, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's was my accent. [SPEAKER_05]: They just, that's how I talked.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, what, what do you talk, my parents are like, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_05]: And he's like, she has the thickest Scottish broke of an American I've ever heard because Jesse and her husband John were from Glasgow. [SPEAKER_05]: And I said, Gettle, which is girl. [SPEAKER_05]: Gettle. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh wow. [SPEAKER_05]: And I didn't hear their accent as a kid. [SPEAKER_05]: My friends did because it was super thick.

[SPEAKER_08]: Taylor Tomlinson has a whole bit about her list when she was a girl and of course how they were like oh you have a list and she's like no I don't I don't have a list.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have a list as I'll say or sounds like I'm listening but no I think you're talking about yes exactly but no I had a thick brogan till I was going to school more hours of the day oh that's funny and all my friends couldn't understand [SPEAKER_05]: And but when I would see their relatives, they didn't like when I see people from Glasgow or running into people from there, I can I can't do the accident anymore because that was how I talked so I can hear it, but I can't do it.

[SPEAKER_08]: is that weird there's there's a little little trip there in your brain somewhere where it's it's hard to get around that I can I can do other accents but that I cannot do it's a strangest thing so anyway so I don't know what look look I mean all of all of these things you know it matters because I think oftentimes that that a lot of us forget we we forget things we forget things that we learn when we were kids we forget things when we learn we were in school everybody in school virtually everybody in school learns about the great depression

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, but a lot of people forget how the Great Depression came about. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it was a panic. [SPEAKER_05]: It's an ace to say the least of a poor regulation and a lot of speculation. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, Glass-Steagall was invented after that. [SPEAKER_08]: Which unfortunately has been overturned. [SPEAKER_08]: A little bit. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, not entirely, but to the Gram Leech Bliley Act, yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: So the drink of a day today is inspired by Black Tuesday. [SPEAKER_08]: Lactu's day, which was the events that basically kicked off the Great Depression, and the drink itself is. [SPEAKER_05]: Is a cornwall and a groany, and we will explain the cornwall part of it, but an groany is basically a black cocktail. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: I think we've made one maybe before.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I think we had an agrony just the other day, different version of it, and I think I think it was a silver version, maybe. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, I think it was. [SPEAKER_08]: And we made similar similar drinks before, but agrony is a whole category of cocktails. [SPEAKER_05]: And there are cocktails of just so I had the Nagrony part is in there for your Italian folks. [SPEAKER_08]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_08]: So black, black Tuesday was not actually the only, no, there are several before there were black Monday before it and black Thursday before it and before all of this you had the roaring 20s. [SPEAKER_08]: So the roaring 20s followed roar one had a lot of optimism and a lot of risk and there may be some things that echo for them. [SPEAKER_08]: And some gas bees. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah exactly exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: The long and short journey to great history, I did a little editing, but it was fantastic in here. [SPEAKER_08]: The whole risk began with the industrial expansion that was done with borrowed money. [SPEAKER_08]: A lot of the industrialists borrowed money for that. [SPEAKER_08]: And a lot of them did this thing, for those of you who don't gamble on stock market, and yes, I call it gambling. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: They do this thing called on margin, which basically means you pay a little bit. [SPEAKER_08]: And then you actually borrow the rest of what you're using to buy stock, yes, and if something bad happens or for whatever reason whoever you are Are borrowing the money from it. [SPEAKER_08]: They want to do what's called a margin call. [SPEAKER_08]: They can call it and call back the money instantly. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm thinking that the AI thing is going to be a part of this.

[SPEAKER_08]: long and short. [SPEAKER_05]: And crypto too. [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be a whole thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and that that goes along with it. [SPEAKER_08]: The industrial expansion. [SPEAKER_08]: They were borrowing money for that. [SPEAKER_08]: The stock market was filled with speculation and market manipulation. [SPEAKER_08]: They did a lot of the things like John Baron calling. [SPEAKER_08]: They would say, Oh, this stock is going to be great.

[SPEAKER_08]: You should buy it. [SPEAKER_08]: You should buy it. [SPEAKER_08]: And it was a small group of people who had bought the stock. [SPEAKER_08]: And they got other people to buy it. [SPEAKER_08]: And then they sold their part and left everybody else in the large. [SPEAKER_08]: This was this was common in the 1920s. [SPEAKER_08]: But all of these things came together. [SPEAKER_08]: Problems in the ag sector.

[SPEAKER_08]: Problems with everybody being over leveraged, having borrowed too much. [SPEAKER_08]: And everything came together in, well, at first in September of 1920, things started to get bad. [SPEAKER_08]: People started to realize things were not valued as much as they actually were. [SPEAKER_08]: There were a few days in there, Black Thursday, Black Monday, where some rich people tried to get in and stop it. [SPEAKER_08]: We even have one example.

[SPEAKER_08]: William Durantz, the wealthy industrialist who started General Motors. [SPEAKER_08]: Yep. [SPEAKER_05]: Rockefeller and the Rockefeller. [SPEAKER_05]: Everybody tried to save it.

[SPEAKER_08]: yet the end of the day around 14 billion of stock value was lost have you seen it's a wonderful life kids that will explain a lot to it oh god yes exactly the equivalent of that loss of money by the way today would be two hundred and forty billion dollars being lost in a single day that's insane yeah that's why we have the breaks now where they just stop trading

[SPEAKER_08]: That's why there was so much regulation that came in during FDR, that's why the banks, it's why a lot of those people who did the deregulation that caused the Great Recession got pissed because a lot of those regulations had been put on them to make sure that it didn't happen again. [SPEAKER_08]: And then the Republicans went in there and took it back again in 87. [SPEAKER_08]: The Great Recession.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, similar in 87, not as bad, the biggest one in 2008, the Great Recession. [SPEAKER_08]: And all because they pitched and moan about the regulation. [SPEAKER_08]: But remember when the Great Depression happened, the Dow Jones, the basically the single measure of the market that people look at. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think it's the measure of the economy. [SPEAKER_08]: No, it's never. [SPEAKER_08]: It didn't return to its pre-1929 crash until November of 1954.

[SPEAKER_08]: So when wealthy people are like, oh, but it's fine. [SPEAKER_08]: I can afford it. [SPEAKER_08]: You, yes, but the economy is a whole can't. [SPEAKER_08]: In the world, it ain't centered around you, sweet cheeks. [SPEAKER_05]: Now, my dad was born in January of 29 and when that happened, he was a kid, a baby, obviously.

[SPEAKER_05]: And he only, the only stock he ever invested in was stupid stock, penny stock, because that told him not to buy stock, he invested in land and T-bills. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's why a lot of people don't buy, so that's why a lot of people still don't buy stock. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't buy stock. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't even. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't. [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: A lot of places you can invest your money.

[SPEAKER_08]: I would just be careful wouldn't be safe with it. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: So the drink of the day, the corn wall the groundy. [SPEAKER_05]: And it's based on because Winston Churchill was a corn wall guy. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, hey. [SPEAKER_05]: He did witness a suicide the day after Black Tuesday. [SPEAKER_08]: One of those rich people jumping out of window, maybe, doing their best Putin in person.

[SPEAKER_05]: But what happened was a man was right from a window edge to save him from suicide. [SPEAKER_05]: It turned out to be just a window cleaner. [SPEAKER_05]: So not really a suicide, but people did jump out of buildings. [SPEAKER_08]: They did. [SPEAKER_08]: Not a lot. [SPEAKER_08]: The full history, check it out. [SPEAKER_08]: It's part of the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_08]: How do we make one of these wonderful cornwalled attorneys? [SPEAKER_05]: OK, you need a mixing glass.

[SPEAKER_05]: Some ice, a pre-chilled coop glass. [SPEAKER_05]: OK. Two ounces of Hamin's London dry gin, or any other dry gin you like, a half ounce of a tiny red bitter liquor. [SPEAKER_05]: That gets a little darker. [SPEAKER_05]: And then it gets darker with this. [SPEAKER_05]: A half ounce of Puntie-E Miss Me Vermouth, Amaro. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the thing that makes it darker. [SPEAKER_05]: Super dark. [SPEAKER_05]: And then the half ounce of Struti, or Struti, I think.

[SPEAKER_05]: Rosa Vermouth, a dash of orange bitters by Anga Stora. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm learning how to do that. [SPEAKER_05]: Anga Stora. [SPEAKER_05]: And it orange zest for the garnish, so you pour all the ingredients into the mixing glass and with ice and stir. [SPEAKER_05]: Then you find strain it into the chilled cooclass and then you express the orange zest. [SPEAKER_05]: I can speak orange zest orange zest. [SPEAKER_05]: I can do it orange zest twist.

[SPEAKER_05]: over the cocktail and then use it as the garnish. [SPEAKER_08]: Jesus, orange, the express orange chest. [SPEAKER_08]: It's Wednesday, we've had a few that's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: No orange just is what it sounds like to me. [SPEAKER_08]: Orange is just, well, you know, you got that, it's got his broke. [SPEAKER_05]: There we go. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, so remember drink up and be smart where you put your money. [SPEAKER_05]: Especially where you put your money, man.

[SPEAKER_05]: Trust me on that. [SPEAKER_08]: And we are very glad, by the way, that you guys decided to put some of your time and your money with us. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: That is very nice. [SPEAKER_08]: So thank you very much. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, back to the news on tap. [SPEAKER_08]: Jump and down to the entertainment section because, well, okay, there's another game going on tonight.

[SPEAKER_08]: It may be going on right now when you're listening, but last night game for. [SPEAKER_05]: Are they playing tonight? [SPEAKER_05]: I thought they were flying tonight. [SPEAKER_08]: No, is it, is it, I think they are they playing tonight? [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's tomorrow. [SPEAKER_05]: They gotta go all the way to Toronto. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, well, I thought there was another, no way that there was another game tonight and then they go to Toronto.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Because I think there's the game tonight and then they go to Toronto of Friday and then if there's another game, that game will be, I think, either Saturday or Sunday. [SPEAKER_05]: You're right. [SPEAKER_05]: Because they do have three games here. [SPEAKER_05]: They only play two. [SPEAKER_05]: You're correct, sir. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_05]: I think they're not getting sleep. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not a good idea.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, you know, it's important to sleep more. [SPEAKER_08]: It's important to do that. [SPEAKER_08]: But it's, you know, look, as we've said before, no matter what happens with the world series, you will be the winner, Jodie. [SPEAKER_05]: So we all. [SPEAKER_08]: True, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Jodie is right.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I want my daughters to win tonight and I'd like to see the Dodgers win just because although honestly, you know, I mean, since since Toronto hasn't won in 30 some years and it would piss down off, you know, but more importantly, if Jody is happy because the role in general around here and, you know, especially, I mean, you asked Lonnie, you're like Lonnie, what's better, an angry Jody or happy Jody?

[SPEAKER_08]: So happy Jodi is definitely Honestly, he'll be like the politics bar, which you know is is Lonnie for me. [SPEAKER_08]: It's all he ever says to me now He just walks up to you and says the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: That's all he says It's kind of like grute. [SPEAKER_08]: It is he's totally grute now Lonnie has grute [SPEAKER_08]: We love you, Lonnie. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, by the way, all of you who are hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Of course, then they're in there on their own phones pressing the button going, [SPEAKER_08]: Damn it, Sean. [SPEAKER_08]: Cut that out, man. [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, you're fun. [SPEAKER_08]: That kind of thing is fun to do. [SPEAKER_08]: That is the kind of thing that is fun to do. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the kind of trolling your friends. [SPEAKER_08]: That's fun.

[SPEAKER_08]: that there's there's a way to troll your friends that's fun, no, you can you can totally do that that's acceptable and then there's a way to troll people that is absolutely not acceptable and not cool in any corner of the universe like for example being the president of the United States and trying to tell people that you're going to do a third term even though your first term and the first part of your second term have been absolutely hell and under disaster.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he claims he has the best poll numbers. [SPEAKER_05]: of any president. [SPEAKER_05]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, if you're looking for tiny numbers, I believe Stormy Daniels can confirm that he's best at the bad numbers. [SPEAKER_08]: Although with that. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: But I was I was just thinking, you know, I mean, if you're looking for poll numbers and you're looking for a tiny poll. [SPEAKER_08]: Sean Louise.

[SPEAKER_08]: All I'm going to say is mushroom. [SPEAKER_05]: It's not a video game that we were talking about. [SPEAKER_05]: I forget what it was. [SPEAKER_05]: There was a video game. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a little... Mario has mushrooms and... No, tiny mushroom. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Of course, of course, you know, we do also joke around here about Tiny Johnson. [SPEAKER_08]: And he was actually out there, Trump did too.

[SPEAKER_08]: He admitted on the plane, even though we won't play it here in your, in your guys' ear because they don't have good sound on the plane. [SPEAKER_08]: It's all... [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but so Trump did admit that yeah, he's kind of trolling people. [SPEAKER_08]: He knows the law Says that he can't do a third term. [SPEAKER_08]: We have the the right up on that.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's in the news on tap But tiny Johnson He had one of his little daily press conferences where he's like even though I'm the speaker of the house. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not in control [SPEAKER_05]: Do you're in control of the house you can bring it back today? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, anyway, but so he did this little song and dance and then he also said that Isn't it funny Donald Trump is trolling all you guys on the left and he's going to do a third term here.

[SPEAKER_08]: Only play some of the DVR. [SPEAKER_01]: Been a great run. [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the president knows and he and I've talked about the Constrictions of the Constitution as much as so many American people lament that The Trump 2028 [SPEAKER_01]: cap is one of the most popular that's ever been introduced and he has a good time with that trolling the Democrats here is on fire about the very prospect.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have a question, doesn't he give Gavin News some crap for literally trolling? [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: The mega rule is the same thing. [SPEAKER_08]: I've got mine, FU. [SPEAKER_08]: They think they control. [SPEAKER_08]: See, they control you, not control, but they can control. [SPEAKER_08]: You, they can troll each other, but the rest of us, according to Magarooals, can't troll them.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, it's awful. [SPEAKER_05]: It's very, it's very, it's very good you. [SPEAKER_05]: It's very junior high school. [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And to that, I just say, [SPEAKER_08]: Not having laws work, it's not how rules work.

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[SPEAKER_08]: considering that I'm one of two of her radio producers that she never made cry or scream at her, you know, yelled at her, you know, sent a hate mail to, you know, and, and I'm the only lefty. [SPEAKER_08]: I actually have the right to say that. [SPEAKER_08]: And if she would like to say something negative against me, we can talk about the, oh, I'd love to have her on the show. [SPEAKER_08]: Sure did me. [SPEAKER_08]: Now I, I would be fine. [SPEAKER_04]: Are you kidding me?

[SPEAKER_08]: I I wouldn't because I would probably get into two legal areas where I would know that would just be that you would just sit there and go hi, Laura Lara I would sit there and go You voice is good for my voice. [SPEAKER_02]: You voice is good, Laura. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm from mine. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what Jody said you got a voice from mine like Mike Levin [SPEAKER_08]: We are having fun here. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you guys for coming by the way.

[SPEAKER_08]: So there is more news on tap for you here. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, you know, there are a lot of things going on in the world. [SPEAKER_08]: And Donald Trump is literally wandering around. [SPEAKER_08]: Clearly, he's he's he wonder to South Korea. [SPEAKER_08]: They gave him a golden crown and a soul. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know sometimes because if you know Korean humor, I don't know whether they are trolling him.

[SPEAKER_08]: or whether they are sucking up to him or a combination thereof, which they can do. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if it's, if it's that combo, it's brilliant, and it also wouldn't surprise me, because there are some brilliant people in South Korea.

[SPEAKER_08]: But, [SPEAKER_08]: At the same time, I, I don't know, I just, I'm like, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, um, Israel, uh, did one of these, backsees things that we say that Republicans should not be doing. [SPEAKER_08]: So, uh, there were overnight strikes. [SPEAKER_08]: They killed at least 104 people, and then they go, oh, ceasefire back on. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't that the reason? [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know if it was a he hit me back first or she hit me back first thing. [SPEAKER_05]: At this point, yes, Hamas hit them first, at least a few years ago. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, but at the same time at this point, this is overkill.

[SPEAKER_08]: Who gives a damn guy is, and especially if it's supposed to be a ceasefire, you can't say, I'm positive the ceasefire to kick the crap out of you, and then when it's your turn to fire back, then I want the ceasefire on. [SPEAKER_08]: That's not how a ceasefire works. [SPEAKER_05]: No, I mean, it's just, they, the Mossad could have gotten the Hamas leaders. [SPEAKER_08]: specifically.

[SPEAKER_08]: This all could have been taken care of a long time ago and for multiple reasons that we've talked about. [SPEAKER_08]: I just it's in the news I wanted to point it out. [SPEAKER_08]: The folks down Jamaica by the way, um, they, wow, hurricane Melissa. [SPEAKER_05]: It's one person is not only dead so far. [SPEAKER_08]: There may be more, depending on when people are listening to this, the damage was catastrophic, and it was slamming around.

[SPEAKER_08]: It was a category two last time we checked earlier, the said to Cuba. [SPEAKER_08]: Cuba, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: It's been just an absolute mess. [SPEAKER_08]: Jamaica's hurting. [SPEAKER_08]: And the whole thing is, so we could help a little bit more. [SPEAKER_08]: we could be sending aid. [SPEAKER_08]: In fact, Trump's decision to send an aircraft carrier to South America on the way. [SPEAKER_08]: They could stop and help out, but they won't.

[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know why he's doing that they're sending the USS Gerald Ford, which is like the most modern one that we've got. [SPEAKER_08]: But here's the thing, when they're sending the carrier to the Caribbean, they are leaving us without a carrier strike group in the Middle East and nothing near Europe. [SPEAKER_08]: So if anything happens, and nothing ever happens in the Middle East, right? [SPEAKER_08]: Like if you're going away and coming back in.

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the other thing is is I think he wants to declare war on Venezuela. [SPEAKER_05]: So I think that's why he's sending it down there. [SPEAKER_08]: I've been upwards of 14 or 15 strikes more than 50 people now killed according to Kegbreath. [SPEAKER_08]: This was the thing that I absolutely kind of pissed me off.

[SPEAKER_08]: There are times I've disagreed with former retired General Mark Hurtling, but there are other times I like General Hurtling and this is one of the things I would agree with. [SPEAKER_08]: He's got a good piece. [SPEAKER_08]: comes from the bull work. [SPEAKER_08]: We've got it in our news on tab. [SPEAKER_08]: And he's talking about how normally military commanders do not sign NDAs. [SPEAKER_08]: Why would you?

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, because among other things you're in the military, that's you don't do it because among other things you're there with the code and literally the US military code, just as UCMJ. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: NDAs are a private sector thing about it. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a private sector personal contract has nothing to do with military.

[SPEAKER_08]: And in fact, [SPEAKER_08]: NDAs are pointless and in many cases legally not enforceable because you are a member of the U.S. military. [SPEAKER_08]: And if somebody involved, including everybody in your hierarchy in your chain of command and members of Congress. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: they can command you, not just request you, they can command that you come to the capital or to whatever location that they say and testify and you are required to because you are property.

[SPEAKER_08]: As a member of the U.S. military, if somebody is a veteran, which is what I am, I am a U.S. Navy veteran, you are property. [SPEAKER_08]: That's that GI government issue. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what you are. [SPEAKER_08]: You are owned. [SPEAKER_08]: You do not have the authorization to say, well, I signed an NDA, NDAs of the private sector, sweet cheeks to the milk. [SPEAKER_08]: And most of them should be just.

[SPEAKER_08]: And look, and the whole thing, regardless of whether you like or dislike NDAs and I'm not a fan of them, as General Herring says, in this piece, you can check it out again in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_08]: Military commanders don't sign NDA's. [SPEAKER_08]: And are sure that Kegbreath had them sign NDA's because of what's going on in South and Central America, which is insane. [SPEAKER_08]: Just that's all of the church nuts. [SPEAKER_05]: Seems illegal.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is somebody gonna sue who can sue? [SPEAKER_05]: Can we sue? [SPEAKER_05]: Who can sue? [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm not entirely sure who has standing. [SPEAKER_05]: Don't we all? [SPEAKER_08]: I'm fairly sure that some of the members of Congress can get involved in it, though, because anybody who's signed [SPEAKER_08]: can request those people who sign the NDAs to testify to them.

[SPEAKER_08]: Hell, all they got to do is say I need you to go to the nearest skiff secured compartmentalized information facility and you go there and they will they can they can have a test of ice drink from there. [SPEAKER_08]: So this idea of well, it's going to protect me.

[SPEAKER_08]: That's a perfect example of why somebody like Pete Kegbreath does not belong as a secretary of defense because the guy's idiot doesn't even understand that NDAs are for private sector use and do not apply for the most part to the military. [SPEAKER_08]: That's why their security clerics is in the military. [SPEAKER_08]: That's why they... Ah, anyway. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it didn't Donald want NDAs in his first term for people. [SPEAKER_05]: Didn't no picks have to sign one.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, [SPEAKER_08]: But again, those were private sector. [SPEAKER_08]: They can, they can be, if you're an employee. [SPEAKER_05]: But she was an employee. [SPEAKER_08]: But private sector, that's fine. [SPEAKER_05]: If you were a member, that seems like it's public though. [SPEAKER_05]: She's an employee of us at that point. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but she's a private citizen who is an employee. [SPEAKER_08]: She's not a member of the military.

[SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: As a member of the military, that's what changes it. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: When you raise your hand and swear in twice, that changes your status as a legal person in the United States. [SPEAKER_08]: So the idea that you can sign an NDA and hide things as a member of the military, especially trying to hide it from Congress, that ain't happening.

[SPEAKER_08]: any who you can read up more about it you can check out the clip it is in the news on tap all right Wednesday night mr. Bob sesca coming into the bar which we are thrilled about because we haven't seen him in a couple of weeks he's been busy doing all kinds of stuff so obviously you guys want to stick around listen to what Bob has to say and he'll be talking about his show his other show track politics his thing with the chess past the ends and that we'll ask him all about it fresh enough you drink

[SPEAKER_08]: Come all back, Jody and I, hang with you on a Wednesday night, hang on. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: Wednesday night, here at the politics bar, you know who's coming in for us the one. [SPEAKER_08]: The only Bob Cesska's here, idea of a Pope Bob, like whoa. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a closest we get to a jingle right that's right, but I appreciate it. [SPEAKER_09]: I like it. [SPEAKER_09]: I like it a lot.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't need a drink. [SPEAKER_09]: No, look, look at me as Pope Bob. [SPEAKER_08]: I'll take that. [SPEAKER_08]: Also, you've got to refrigerator, so you don't need to worry about being jingle. [SPEAKER_08]: You and Kimberly y'all can jingle there. [SPEAKER_08]: I've been in the refrigerator, trust me. [SPEAKER_09]: It's so crazy yesterday. [SPEAKER_09]: I was talking to my therapist as I do once a week.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't want to say and then the refrigerator joke came up in the course of conversation. [SPEAKER_09]: So because I was complaining about it, I just in order to set up something else I was talking about. [SPEAKER_09]: I had to mention the And your therapist is like, so how is the refrigerator mom? [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_05]: It's my fault. [SPEAKER_05]: This is all my fault. [SPEAKER_08]: It's entirely true. [SPEAKER_08]: So wait a minute.

[SPEAKER_08]: So you're giving yourself kind of an out of time. [SPEAKER_08]: Buzz? [SPEAKER_08]: Is that it, Joey? [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: Well, what happened was we were on the show years ago. [SPEAKER_05]: And he had a problem with his fridge. [SPEAKER_05]: How did you break it were you and Kimberly having sex? [SPEAKER_05]: And that's just how it started. [SPEAKER_05]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: Look, and honestly, Hobart, the big company that does the gigantic size refrigerators is been trying to reach you two for you. [SPEAKER_08]: That would give them a plug, just saying. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that would be great. [SPEAKER_09]: Someone needs to send us on an enormous refrigerator. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, plug that refrigerator on our podcast, yeah, that works. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_09]: But if you ever see me in Kimberly, you know how insane it is that we would ever even try something like that. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's why I said the whole barthe, you know, the industrial size. [SPEAKER_08]: They're rocking. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: So how you been mom, what even up to last couple of weeks? [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, we know obviously track politics. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, which is great.

[SPEAKER_08]: And your show, which of course Jody does, you know, every Tuesday and Thursday, which is great. [SPEAKER_08]: But there's this other little thing that some of the folks here at the politics bar may not be aware of. [SPEAKER_08]: They should be, though, because chess was pretty cool. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's up. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, Chesapeze. [SPEAKER_09]: Chesapeze. [SPEAKER_09]: Those of you who don't know, Chesapeze Pesiansa was a producer on CNN, also for a short time on MSNBC.

[SPEAKER_09]: Use a TV producer. [SPEAKER_09]: Use a guy. [SPEAKER_09]: They often refer to people like Chesapeze Pesiansa as showrunners, they're the guys who run everything. [SPEAKER_09]: If you have, if you're a part of a TV show, cable news show would have you, and you need a question to ask, you go to the showrunner. [SPEAKER_09]: That's the guy who controls all the things about that show. [SPEAKER_09]: creatively behind the scenes and so on.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I was fortunate enough to meet him in 2000. [SPEAKER_09]: Nine, I believe it was, we were both on another podcast together on someone else's podcast and we both happen to be guests at that time. [SPEAKER_09]: And we became friends and then he became my co-host on my show after my first co-host left the show. [SPEAKER_09]: And so by the way, co-host, this kind of warning to Jody and to that extent, David, I go through co-hosts like spinal tap drummers.

[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, we've been with you for a long time at this point. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Just the end of it have been on the show since 2017, since Ches died, cutting to spoiler warning, cutting to the chase, Ches died in early 2017, soon after the inauguration. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe that what happened to him was largely Donald Trump's fault. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, great. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm good to that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm good for blaming Trump for it because he just he couldn't accept the fact that Donald Trump was going to be president and couldn't deal with the fact that he would have to spend the next four years plus dealing with Donald Trump as president So he lapsed into some bad habits that he had prior to But he also was a prolific writer One of the other ways we worked together was we were both bloggers at the old Huffington Post

[SPEAKER_09]: And he also had his own blog called Deus Ex Melcontent, which actually got him fired from CNN because he was blogging about the news. [SPEAKER_09]: And CNN didn't like that. [SPEAKER_09]: He was expressing an opinion about what was going on in the news. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, how dare he? [SPEAKER_09]: That was an eight-ish. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And so CNN fired him because of this blog.

[SPEAKER_09]: But when he died, [SPEAKER_09]: The domain name ended up expiring and a squatter grabbed the domain name and put up, you know, just a gibberish website. [SPEAKER_09]: And so we couldn't access his blog to preserve it to archive it. [SPEAKER_09]: Fortunately, one of his friends, Al Irabari, at one point, had downloaded a backup. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank goodness. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_09]: She has his blog. [SPEAKER_09]: And he sent it to me.

[SPEAKER_09]: for whatever reason because I'm a procrastinator. [SPEAKER_09]: It's taking me this long to finally buckle down and repost Ches' blog, sort of a legacy edition of Ches' blog at chespeziansa.com. [SPEAKER_09]: That's very cool. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so, and it was, by the way, it was a blogger blog or it used to be known as blogspot. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but blogger.com. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember that. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, Google bought it.

[SPEAKER_09]: And this was a blog that Ches had up for 11 years from 2006, 2017 when he died. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: And as soon as I posted it, again, [SPEAKER_09]: It got taken down what must have been at least three times. [SPEAKER_09]: One of the times was included a threatening really intimidating email about one of the terms of service that one of the posts on the blog had violated.

[SPEAKER_09]: And it was kind of scary because they're talking about legal measures and lawyers and things like that. [SPEAKER_09]: Really freaky. [SPEAKER_09]: But I appealed and they put the blog back up and then they took it down again, then they put it back up and they took it down again. [SPEAKER_09]: In fact, the last time they took it down was right after I posted about it on Instagram. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm like, yay, Chez's blog is up. [SPEAKER_09]: Here we go.

[SPEAKER_09]: Go look at it. [SPEAKER_09]: It's legacy blog and here's who Chez is. [SPEAKER_09]: And he's an amazing writer. [SPEAKER_09]: And then as soon as I hit send on Instagram, I went over to the blog itself and it was gone. [SPEAKER_09]: because of course it was what's there right now. [SPEAKER_05]: I just checked it's up. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it's been up since Saturday. [SPEAKER_09]: I think uninterrupted.

[SPEAKER_08]: So these companies are so stupid because like you said it was there for from 2006 to 2011 you said? [SPEAKER_08]: 17. [SPEAKER_05]: 11 years. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, 11 years. [SPEAKER_08]: So it was everything. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, it was there.

[SPEAKER_08]: It was it was following our rules for 11 years and now you can't [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but it's your place dude in the interest of full disclosure, the threatening email that I got from Google said that it the blog violated its child safety rules. [SPEAKER_09]: Google's child safety rules, I mean, we're not reading chess.

[SPEAKER_08]: I can understand that chess, you know, violating child safety rules, some of the stuff he wrote obviously violated, you know, all kinds of wonderful children are reading chess certainly.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I pinpointed what it might have been because I think at one point he wrote something about our Kelly, not not personally, not praising our Kelly, but the other thing that Ches would routinely do is post about his daughter with pictures of his daughter at various stages of growth as a baby as a toddler, et cetera, because it was just a baby that he had posted things in his life too, right? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: Maybe they objected to photos of a child on a blogger blog. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what it is And the reason I don't know what it is is because not not once did Google ever say this is the post Right, this is the thing that we're objecting to not it was complete ambiguity There I had no clue because of course if there were some sort of issue and they said this is the post [SPEAKER_09]: I would delete that post.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'd have no issue with that. [SPEAKER_09]: We had what I was going to send out of it, right? [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So I would have been perfectly fine taking the thing down, and that wouldn't have been a problem. [SPEAKER_09]: All they had to do was say, we object to this, can you take it down, or we object to this and we're masking it, or we're going to take it down ourselves, and it would have been fine.

[SPEAKER_09]: Instead of taking down the whole website. [SPEAKER_09]: So it's very clear that what's working in the back end of it is some sort of bought some kind of algorithm that doesn't interpret these things. [SPEAKER_09]: So what it ends up doing is it pulls down the entire site and then you appeal and that is when ostensibly a human being steps in. [SPEAKER_09]: and takes another look. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if there's an actual real-life human being who would do that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if it's another algorithm that kicks in at that point. [SPEAKER_09]: They say it's another human being, but I don't know.

[SPEAKER_09]: And so it's this, [SPEAKER_08]: No, it's, we, we understand, we had, we had, when we were first starting, we told you about this before when we were first and start not the bar and we had the the store on red bubble because that's where you have your store at Bob sesco.com and we were like, hey, it looks great, you know, we'll do that and and

[SPEAKER_08]: And they, there was no reason given, they basically shut down the account and sent Jody and I hate you, email, basically is like, we've shut everything down. [SPEAKER_08]: You can't have your account. [SPEAKER_08]: We're not telling you what went wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: F off. [SPEAKER_08]: And there was no appeal. [SPEAKER_08]: Wow. [SPEAKER_05]: No appeal. [SPEAKER_05]: That was my problem. [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, what did I do wrong?

[SPEAKER_08]: So I mean, we went with who we'd got now for our store, which, you know, we have issues with that right now, but not as bad. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: I had an issue with T public that was similar. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's not necessarily why I switched to red bubble. [SPEAKER_09]: It was mainly because the T public website is really difficult to navigate. [SPEAKER_05]: It is. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's and they don't have a lot of stuff either.

[SPEAKER_05]: They have it's limited. [SPEAKER_09]: They objected to that t-shirt that I did with that was actually contributed by Rocky Mountain Mike from the Stephanie Miller show where it's an image of Superman punching Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_00]: That's a great shirt. [SPEAKER_09]: That's a logo on it. [SPEAKER_09]: They objected to that for copyright reasons. [SPEAKER_09]: So maybe the Superman drawing was a little too close to being actual Superman. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what it was. [SPEAKER_08]: But a lot of them, a lot of them get afraid of too many things. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's, look, it reminds me. [SPEAKER_08]: So we were talking earlier this week or was it, was it last week? [SPEAKER_08]: I can't remember. [SPEAKER_08]: I was talking about, I was in my neighborhood walking my dog. [SPEAKER_08]: And ran into a guy who was walking the dog friend of the dog friend of my dog.

[SPEAKER_08]: And so talk to him and his ace grandpa is a guy from North Carolina. [SPEAKER_08]: Very nice guy. [SPEAKER_08]: Just very conservative. [SPEAKER_08]: And we were talking about some of these things. [SPEAKER_08]: He actually was like, you guys actually sound like you're pretty cool there at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: And we appreciate that. [SPEAKER_08]: He said, you know, there's something in all of his years of work.

[SPEAKER_08]: I guess at one point he worked in the FAA offices here in DC. [SPEAKER_08]: And he says, you know, some of these people in power, their big problem is they're afraid. [SPEAKER_08]: they're afraid to make decisions. [SPEAKER_08]: They're afraid to make decisions they haven't made before. [SPEAKER_08]: And so they get too frightened. [SPEAKER_08]: They get too worried. [SPEAKER_08]: And so they scare themselves out of making these decisions.

[SPEAKER_05]: That sounds like the entertainment business. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: I knew you would think that, Joe. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, no one wants to know and wants to green light a project by themselves. [SPEAKER_09]: It all has to be done by committee so you can defer blame at that project fail. [SPEAKER_05]: See the studio. [SPEAKER_09]: Just watch the studio.

[SPEAKER_08]: But one thing is, especially when, not if, when we good folks get back in charge, there's going to have to be a lot of people who are going to have to be on a freight people who that we elect to the house and to the Senate and to the White House are going to have to take a lot of actions that are going, you're going to get people who are, who [SPEAKER_08]: You're in Maryland, you're in the Maryland part of the DC, you're part of our bar bomb.

[SPEAKER_05]: Apparently people can't drive there, according to Sean. [SPEAKER_08]: Maryland drivers are not the greatest. [SPEAKER_08]: Some, you know, just as a general rule of thumb, there are some people like you who can drive, but in general, Maryland drivers, I found living in the DMV. [SPEAKER_09]: anyway. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but when they cross the bridge and they're in the Virginia side. [SPEAKER_08]: They're fine.

[SPEAKER_08]: It seems like it's, yeah, you drive Maryland drivers in Maryland drive okay, but when they come to Virginia or DC, they're like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_08]: I like, you know, why? [SPEAKER_08]: Because they're not, you know, you know, drive it like you rented it anyway. [SPEAKER_08]: But the Maryland Speaker of the House is a Democrat. [SPEAKER_08]: And he is basically he has big foot. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think we put this. [SPEAKER_08]: We didn't get it in the news on tap today.

[SPEAKER_08]: But it is, it's a story that's out there. [SPEAKER_08]: So Democrats in other states, Virginia, for example, is they are starting to fight these redistricting wars. [SPEAKER_08]: And the head of the, the, the basically one of those powerful Democrats in Maryland, other than Governor Westmore.

[SPEAKER_08]: Um, is stopping the the Maryland State House, the the Maryland Legislature from considering the idea of playing the redistricting wars and adding another seat because he said he's afraid he's afraid of of what it will do he's afraid of and I'm like dude. [SPEAKER_08]: you actually lead the legislative body.

[SPEAKER_08]: Get your ass out there and this is what you're there for if you can't handle it because you're too afraid and step your ass down and let somebody handle it who's got the gehones to do the job. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a lot of things to be afraid of right now. [SPEAKER_09]: I would say the threat of fascist authoritarianism in this country far away is the fear of, you know, in somebody getting very mandering war right, essentially what we're in right now.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Texas started at California has to respond Indiana jumps into the mix. [SPEAKER_08]: Therefore, another blue state has to go in his governor did, but the legislators there are not cool with it. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, the legislators they didn't want to deal with it. [SPEAKER_08]: The governor there was again, a coward himself and said, well, Donald wants me to. [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm going to give it to you people. [SPEAKER_08]: And then you can deal with it.

[SPEAKER_05]: No, California is doing it right because it's to the voters. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: I can't remember who was I think was on the ABC stream where they had somebody talking about at the other day and adding it up and they say the way that it actually looks now depending on you know as opposed to when it started even if Republicans get what they think they'll get which as we've talked to Anita in San Antonio she says they aren't going to get them down there but if they do they might make one or two they might add one or two but because California fired back because Democrats are stepping up

[SPEAKER_08]: This isn't going to be the type of big house seat grab that Republican thought it was going to be and it's not going to be easy. [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be expensive. [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be dirty. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's, and I'm like, when you go to war, that's kind of war is. [SPEAKER_08]: So this is just dumb on their part. [SPEAKER_05]: Like Stephanie said this morning, we're at war with our own government every day of the week.

[SPEAKER_08]: Stephanie Miller's not even here and she's right. [SPEAKER_08]: Damn. [SPEAKER_05]: Look, it's not wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: What is this, too? [SPEAKER_08]: We got Bob. [SPEAKER_08]: We got Jody. [SPEAKER_08]: We got me. [SPEAKER_08]: We got you is a Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_08]: We got one more round here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: We got more to talk about. [SPEAKER_08]: Trek politics, more with the Bob SESCA show. [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, stuff from the news on tap.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I get to interview these people from the Star Trek universe. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And it was just me because Mary had a scheduling conflict. [SPEAKER_09]: So I got to interview Spencer Garrett. [SPEAKER_05]: Love him. [SPEAKER_05]: He's such a nice man. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he was in once upon a time in Hollywood. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: He's a bad man. [SPEAKER_09]: He was in for all mankind.

[SPEAKER_09]: And he plays a lot of broadcasters on a lot of these shows and movies. [SPEAKER_09]: And he also played the character Simon Tarsis in the Star Trek from the next generation episode, The Drumhead, which is one of the, maybe the top five greatest episodes of Star Trek across all the shows. [SPEAKER_09]: It also got that episode co-star, the late Jean Simmons. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Not the guy from Kiss. [SPEAKER_09]: No, the lady, the lady, Jean, I know she is.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, but she was amazing in that episode. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and he played this, the crewman, this young guy, who was being kind of accused of being part of a conspiracy that he wasn't actually a part of. [SPEAKER_09]: So there's a great kind of courtroom drama episode of the next generation. [SPEAKER_09]: Got to interview him.

[SPEAKER_08]: on track politics this week at uh... i think it drops this coming up sunday so much jackpot excellent definitely definitely something you should subscribe to because especially if you're you're a track fan and uh... but also if you're just a bob sesca fan cuz you know me who really is not a bob set i know

[SPEAKER_08]: Look, I honestly, it's, so it's one of those weird things where there are, there are people in my life who I'm not exactly sure when the hell I met them when the hell they've came into my corner of the universe and you actually have any one of those people I'm certain it's through the Stephanie Miller show thing. [SPEAKER_08]: And I know that we were looking for Phil advertisement at the time.

[SPEAKER_08]: You know, but it's stuff stuff that it goes in the spot and if you haven't had, then it goes over the you know, and you can otherwise you just run that. [SPEAKER_08]: So that way people go, oh, hey, that's great. [SPEAKER_08]: And I was like, oh, yeah, we just put the Bob Cesska show in there. [SPEAKER_08]: I was on to it. [SPEAKER_08]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_08]: We just back.

[SPEAKER_08]: I could make a 60 second thing whatever and put two minute thing whatever it is and do that and and Randy was like, oh, okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I know Bob. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Sure. [SPEAKER_08]: That mean, you know, I mean, not just know you know you but you know she knew she's like, okay, sure. [SPEAKER_08]: So we just started, you know, inserting those in there and then I think I remember reaching out to you and like, hey, you cool with that.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's the worst thing ever. [SPEAKER_09]: I was so grateful for it. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you for all the hard work you did for those promos because they're just outstanding. [SPEAKER_08]: I love it. [SPEAKER_08]: It's fun because I'm another thing. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm already listening to it. [SPEAKER_08]: And I just have this thing where [SPEAKER_08]: we all do this as as people who are all on air and both producers.

[SPEAKER_08]: The three of us who are here at the microphones here in the bar, we do this where you hear things or you watch things or you're reading something or you see a graphic and you're like, they should have done this, they should have done this, they should have done this. [SPEAKER_08]: It's hard sometimes to enjoy entertainment when you're doing that. [SPEAKER_08]: I also have the added, I don't know, it's a benefit or not, of having been responsible for the Husker Sports Radio Network.

[SPEAKER_08]: So literally, if I'm listening to a baseball game or football, basketball, volleyball, whatever, [SPEAKER_08]: and somebody does something wrong, I just like do not get on social media and put them on blast to try to make a message to them. [SPEAKER_08]: Do not be like you dumbass. [SPEAKER_05]: It's live, it's live, it's live, it's live, it's live, it's live. [SPEAKER_08]: But look, I actually have done that with certain ones before where I know how to reach the control room.

[SPEAKER_08]: And I can tell that the person doing it is some part timer, maybe they're doing a fill-in thing for when it gets to the not the people who are actually [SPEAKER_08]: So that the person who is in the control room can read the scores from whatever is happened to going on and they, um, uh, today the, um, um, uh, commanders and the, uh, chiefs and you're like, oh my god, that's exactly exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, just drives you nuts, and I know that the person who did it, they're part timer. [SPEAKER_08]: I get it, but I can also tell that their mind wasn't there. [SPEAKER_08]: They weren't preparing. [SPEAKER_08]: I literally remember one specific incident where I did this, and I sent a message, and I was like, get the F off of social media jack, ask you how God damn job, and I know your boss. [SPEAKER_08]: And the next break was really good.

[SPEAKER_08]: So I know the part-timer was actually paying attention and they're like, you know, how did you know what I'm like, because I used to run a sports network jackass. [SPEAKER_08]: So, you know, that's one of those things when people know what they're doing.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's important and it drives me nuts when [SPEAKER_08]: Even if I disagree with somebody, it pisses me off when they do things poorly, half-assed, which is part of why I get so f and frustrated with these maggots in the Republican party, tiny Johnson and his whole song and dance about, oh, well, you know, the food aid thing isn't me. [SPEAKER_08]: Dude, you, you, you run. [SPEAKER_08]: You are the speaker of the house.

[SPEAKER_08]: What is your [SPEAKER_09]: the power to make these all these things go away he's power to make them happen he has the power to make snap come back he has the power to make the ACA subsidies return and he's referring refusing to do it because he's being puppeteered by Donald Trump who's being puppeteered by Stephen Miller. [SPEAKER_09]: Stephen Miller runs America right now. [SPEAKER_09]: He's president Miller. [SPEAKER_09]: He's entirely clear what we're talking about.

[SPEAKER_09]: Steven Miller is essentially the day factor president in the United States. [SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_05]: And we need to put that on socials. [SPEAKER_08]: Him and Russ votes and Christy knows boyfriend and yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_05]: No, we need to put president Miller on all the socials because that's how we'll get him out because when we said that about Elon Musk, he got out. [SPEAKER_08]: That's true. [SPEAKER_08]: That's true.

[SPEAKER_08]: I just, it, it bogged my, in the fact that Marjorie Taylor Greene, we're all agreeing with Marjorie Taylor Greene right now. [SPEAKER_09]: It's scrambling my brains and ramp all two. [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I don't like it [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, like, wait, where's how she triangulating? [SPEAKER_09]: She's, she's up to something. [SPEAKER_09]: That's what I was thinking about. [SPEAKER_09]: It was not easily suspicious. [SPEAKER_08]: She's not triangulating.

[SPEAKER_08]: She campaigned when we said, we talked to Ron Roberts yesterday. [SPEAKER_08]: She did. [SPEAKER_08]: She did. [SPEAKER_08]: Ron show, who was on Georgia now, one of our affiliates. [SPEAKER_08]: And Ron said, no, no. [SPEAKER_08]: She campaigned two of her big campaign promises. [SPEAKER_08]: One of which was get the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_08]: And another one was, keep healthcare costs low.

[SPEAKER_08]: Regardless of whether we disagree with her on virtually every other thing, those were two of her big campaign promises. [SPEAKER_08]: And other House Republicans, most of them have not been here in the DC part of the bar. [SPEAKER_08]: She's still there. [SPEAKER_08]: She's been going to other Democrats offices. [SPEAKER_08]: House and Senate saying, how can we get this? [SPEAKER_08]: I guess last night, we have the stories in the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_08]: They had this big, shemeel, this whole thing of phone conversation, whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: And I guess she put tiny jokes on the last. [SPEAKER_08]: She's like, look, it'll prick. [SPEAKER_08]: You can actually get this stuff done and you piss in me off and you're going to piss my people off jackass and you're going to lose me on election. [SPEAKER_09]: Are you really allowed to say Tony Johnson on the radio, Sean? [SPEAKER_08]: That's his name. [SPEAKER_08]: That's his name.

[SPEAKER_09]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_05]: I know. [SPEAKER_08]: Joe is right, gotta be right on that one.

[SPEAKER_08]: But look, he is a tiny, impotent man, and he's made himself impotent. [SPEAKER_05]: So is his Johnson, I'm sorry, was that out loud? [SPEAKER_02]: He's just a bloody little weed.

[SPEAKER_08]: But I'm fine with calling him that and I'm fine with it making Republicans mad because my thought is if it makes enough of you mad do something about it there was a there was a vote actually in the Senate we said that that Senate Republicans have been a little bit better and sure enough there was a small bright spot in the Senate yesterday Senate Democrats passed a bill with five Republican votes including of all people niche freaking McConnell to block Trump's tariffs on Brazil

[SPEAKER_08]: Now, that's not actually going to get put into law. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure his Trump will sign in, right. [SPEAKER_08]: But the fact that there are that many people in the Senate, Republicans are Senate who are willing to go, you know what? [SPEAKER_08]: You had Donnie, no, have you. [SPEAKER_09]: You know why they voted. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, here's where I'm going to be, Mr. Senegal. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, sure, go for it. [SPEAKER_09]: You know why those five Republicans voted for it?

[SPEAKER_09]: They were grand standing. [SPEAKER_09]: They knew it was never going to be law. [SPEAKER_09]: They knew they didn't have the views. [SPEAKER_05]: And Mitch's retiring, I mean, [SPEAKER_08]: And so is, uh, what is the North Carolina Tillis voters retiring as well? [SPEAKER_05]: So there's two at least there that have no expectations because whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: I get that. [SPEAKER_08]: And maybe the word grancing, but that grandstanding thing is part of how politics works.

[SPEAKER_08]: When we had your wall chain here, was it last Thursday? [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and we asked him and to look, this is how it used to be done. [SPEAKER_08]: This is how it used to be done, where when they knew, for example with this, this stuff with the ACA, [SPEAKER_08]: They could be like, look, there are 50 Republicans in a house who are willing to vote for the ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_08]: We know this.

[SPEAKER_08]: There are 50 Republicans willing to vote for the ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_08]: All they need is what, six, all the Democrats would vote for it, six Republicans vote for it, then tiny Johnson, you go, well, you know, we didn't want it, and they, they beat us, damn Democrats, and he could throw it over to the Senate. [SPEAKER_08]: let Thune deal with it there. [SPEAKER_08]: If Thune decides fine, we'll do it on a 51 basis or whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: There are enough people.

[SPEAKER_08]: They could take care of it. [SPEAKER_08]: They could get rid of it. [SPEAKER_08]: And yes, you play the wounded game. [SPEAKER_08]: You play the, oh, I didn't really want it to happen. [SPEAKER_08]: Just like you're saying, Bob, where they go, well, they knew this wasn't going to get passed with the Brazil thing, but that's how politics works.

[SPEAKER_08]: Some of it is performative, but at the same time, the stuff that's actually good is on the other side, they go, yeah, we knew that that needed to get done, but with these other idiots here, we were never going to get it done. [SPEAKER_08]: So we let you do the dirty work for us, Democrats, if the dirty work is keeping kids fed and keeping people's health insurance, low, whatever crime. [SPEAKER_09]: make sense? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I think the congressional Republicans would do well to pass something sooner around and later. [SPEAKER_05]: I agree. [SPEAKER_09]: Even though there's a good chance that Donald would veto anything that contained concessions to the Democrats, especially the ACA subsidies.

[SPEAKER_09]: But I think the congressional Republicans need to start [SPEAKER_09]: watching their backs I agree happens next year and so they start they need to start moving in the direction of getting something done and getting the government reopened even if Donald Trump says no and there's a very strong likelihood that Donald Trump will say no and then it's on him he doesn't sign it if he vetoes a bill that is bipartisan that's on Donald then and he doesn't like to [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_08]: And Tony Fabrizio, who is Donald's pollster, has said that passing the ACA subsidies would be good. [SPEAKER_08]: And Fabrizio has also told the House Republicans, if you people keep this up, it will kill you in next year's elections. [SPEAKER_04]: Don't tell them. [SPEAKER_09]: I want them to keep it up because they want them to be damaged, you want them to keep punching themselves in the face. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, on that. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm with you.

[SPEAKER_08]: But I would rather actually feed the kids and give people health. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a tough. [SPEAKER_05]: It's a Sophie choice. [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, we're Democrats. [SPEAKER_08]: We would rather help people even if it's not necessarily good for us. [SPEAKER_08]: I know. [SPEAKER_05]: That's our problem. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I have some solutions, though. [SPEAKER_08]: Look, you can listen to the Bobcesska show and subscribe at Bobcesska.com.

[SPEAKER_08]: Of course, you can go to Patreon and help out as well. [SPEAKER_08]: You can subscribe to Trek Politics, as well. [SPEAKER_08]: That will help out Bob on both cases. [SPEAKER_08]: Bob, thank you so much. [SPEAKER_08]: As always, we'll see you next Wednesday, yes? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, thank you, Sean. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you, Jodie. [SPEAKER_08]: Woohoo! [SPEAKER_08]: Yay, tomorrow, Jodie. [SPEAKER_08]: You tomorrow will be back in the house. [SPEAKER_08]: Fresh enough.

[SPEAKER_08]: Do what you got to do and get some sleep. [SPEAKER_08]: Cause that's important. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll see you tomorrow night here at the politics bar.