[SPEAKER_16]: It's political. [SPEAKER_16]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_16]: Don't think it's a part where you are. [SPEAKER_16]: The politics march. [SPEAKER_16]: Shotsmith, Harrison, Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_15]: Shorty, Sean. [SPEAKER_15]: You need to bite your tongue today. [SPEAKER_15]: I'm going to try really, really, really, really hard. [SPEAKER_15]: We both need to bite our respective tongues. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of that line in Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, where he says, you saw that. [SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: definitely we're going to talk about free speech issues today and first amendment issues and we have a couple of the perfect people coming here in the bar tonight not only do we have the one and only john fugal saying that's selling author john fugal saying best selling author john fugal saying but we also happen to have [SPEAKER_08]: A long time friend of mine, you actually may be more familiar with her than you think.
[SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca Pillar, Buckwaller Poza, R-P-B-P, who beat Trump's sorry ass on the first amendment issue when he tried to block her on Twitter during his first regime, and she took him to court along with the night foundation and kicked his sorry ass off. [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, Rebecca's coming in the bar. [SPEAKER_08]: We are going to talk about all of this horse crap with Kimmel.
[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, when we mentioned the things that we were saying yesterday that Brendan Carr was, was, oh, that we had agreed with him? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no. [SPEAKER_08]: I do have, I do have one thing that I agree with Brendan Carr about, but I can't really say it on air. [SPEAKER_08]: But he wouldn't like it anyway. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_08]: Do not put me in a room with him only one person will walk out and it won't be him. [SPEAKER_08]: Just saying.
[SPEAKER_08]: Any who look we do want to start in a positive note, so big thanks, by the way, to all of our broadcast affiliates who are out there and have their wonderful licenses, regardless of whether Mr. Carl likes it or not, and WCPTA M820 and Chicago AM950, Minneapolis Saint Paul the detour talk in Tennessee and progressive voices radio worldwide, whatever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_08]: George now radio you are coming back soon. [SPEAKER_08]: We could more details on that.
[SPEAKER_08]: coming soon. [SPEAKER_08]: By the way, thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: If you are listening on the podcast, wherever you happen to be, whatever podcast platform it is, oh, uh, Jody, we got a message by the way. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, from Miranda, uh, the Instagram last night. [SPEAKER_08]: She said, uh, we're getting Christie the Nomads pushing ice hiring during your show on Apple podcasts. [SPEAKER_08]: So, I suppose if if they want to throw money at us, that's fine with me.
[SPEAKER_15]: We will still [SPEAKER_08]: Well, you will still say that Christy the Nome is a small-minded little jerk because she is, and if they don't like it, they can always take their money elsewhere. [SPEAKER_15]: What's like people that hate listen? [SPEAKER_15]: Find, bring us our ratings. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I mean, hate advertising? [SPEAKER_08]: I suppose that's a thing. [SPEAKER_08]: They want to hate advertising. [SPEAKER_08]: So I'd buy, I suppose, they think.
[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, and we have literally no control over what ads are placed in our shows. [SPEAKER_15]: None, none whatsoever. [SPEAKER_15]: Unless they're hostred, we have we have control over what we read, but we have no control over what is placed in in your podcast player. [SPEAKER_15]: We just have no control over that. [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, sorry. [SPEAKER_08]: ABC and their corporate affiliates, they have control or at least they think they do.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so the big story as we were in the bar last night. [SPEAKER_08]: I kept wondering why people were playing clips of of Kimmel I know and I was like You know, I mean, it's Kimmel he says all kind of funny stuff whatever [SPEAKER_08]: So Jimmy Kimmel on Monday came back from the weekend and was brilliant. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he was great. [SPEAKER_08]: He didn't really say anything horrible here for all the people who have yet to hear the comment that he made.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is the comment. [SPEAKER_08]: Remember, he was making kind of a slight comment. [SPEAKER_08]: Nobody knew at that point anything about the shooter of Charlie Kirk.
[SPEAKER_08]: Remember the the first thing that we started hearing about that was Tuesday when we had a little bit more information So it was all speculation And Jimmy made kind of a glancing joke on that, but his real joke was aimed at Donald Trump Bush, which is what D. No, but Donald said and we put that in news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_08]: He won't let me play this time [SPEAKER_11]: We had some new lows over the weekend with the magagang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them. [SPEAKER_11]: And when everything they can to score political points from it, in between the finger pointing, there was grieving on Friday the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism.
[SPEAKER_11]: But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this. [SPEAKER_09]: Back in those days on the lock with your friend Charlie Kirkman asked her personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half sir? [SPEAKER_09]: I think very good. [SPEAKER_09]: And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks.
[SPEAKER_09]: They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get as you know for about 150 years. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's going to be a beauty. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_11]: He's at the fourth stage of grief construction. [SPEAKER_15]: that's a funny line. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a great line. [SPEAKER_08]: It's all the Jimmy Kimmel said.
[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, again, this is, this is, this is the most that he said about about Charlie Kirk. [SPEAKER_08]: This is the most that he said. [SPEAKER_11]: We had some new lows over the weekend with the Maggie gang desperately trying characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk is anything other than one of them. [SPEAKER_11]: And what [SPEAKER_15]: That's it. [SPEAKER_15]: He said nothing disparaging about Charlie Kirk. [SPEAKER_15]: Zero. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_08]: Jody is right. [SPEAKER_08]: He said nothing disparaging about what he said was that Maga was trying to characterize the suspect who killed Charlie Kirk, who shot Charlie Kirk as anything other than Maga. [SPEAKER_08]: That's it. [SPEAKER_15]: That's it. [SPEAKER_15]: That's all he said. [SPEAKER_15]: That's all he said.
[SPEAKER_15]: He made fun of Donald and that's why Donald [SPEAKER_15]: Well, the funny thing with Brendan Carras, as we all know, he actually said the quiet part out loud on a podcast. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, Brendan Carras said a whole lot of things, but we want to make sure to take you guys through this because the important thing is, first of all, Jimmy Kimmel said nothing wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: You just heard it. [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing wrong.
[SPEAKER_08]: But Donald Trump did, and so did FCC chair Brendan, because you cannot be in government and threatened to use the first amendment or any other law. [SPEAKER_08]: and threatened a company or an individual and then they do it and then you say, oh, well, I had nothing to do with it. [SPEAKER_08]: Here's what Donald Trump said August 6th in a, I believe it was a White House presser.
[SPEAKER_08]: What has it worth now did you did you hear that I did okay some people for those of you who may have had bad radios the Idiots podcast or not an actual journalist that is in the press corps there said do you think the hate Trump Business model that has been in the media for quite a while is going out of business because it doesn't work anymore and Donald Trump, of course [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think it is. [SPEAKER_01]: And it has worked really for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would say pretty much from the beginning. [SPEAKER_01]: Colbert has no talent. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I could take anybody here. [SPEAKER_01]: I could go outside to the beautiful streets and pick up a couple of people that do just as well or better they get higher ratings and he did. [SPEAKER_01]: He's got no talent. [SPEAKER_01]: Fallen has no talent. [SPEAKER_01]: Kimmel has no talent. [SPEAKER_01]: Then next, they're going to be going.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear they're going to be going. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, I hear they're going to be going. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So then here's, [SPEAKER_08]: SEC chair Brennan car on the podcast of right wing podcaster and recipient of Russian money Benny Johnson frankly when you see stuff like this I mean look we can do this the easy way or the hard way [SPEAKER_08]: Now, that's the first part of what he said.
[SPEAKER_08]: Remember, at this point yesterday, when Brandon Carr was saying this, Jimmy Kimmel still had his job. [SPEAKER_08]: They were preparing for the evening show. [SPEAKER_08]: They were. [SPEAKER_08]: Guess we're on their way to the show. [SPEAKER_15]: They were. [SPEAKER_08]: One of them exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Here's what else Brandon Carr has to say.
[SPEAKER_06]: these companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there's gonna be additional work for the FCC. [SPEAKER_06]: Again, there's actions that we can take on licensed broadcasters, and frankly, I think that it's really sort of past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on, con-casin' this, and say, listen, we are going to pre-end. [SPEAKER_06]: We're not gonna run, [SPEAKER_06]: Kimmel anymore.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so you straighten this out. [SPEAKER_06]: But as we, we license the broadcaster, are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC. [SPEAKER_06]: If we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion.
[SPEAKER_06]: So. [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, any affiliate can always preempt anything that the networks give them correct that's just a thing they can always do that nobody's stopping them Or affiliates can do it to and there's nothing wrong with that and that's that's their prerogative
[SPEAKER_08]: But here's the thing that the affiliates now when we're talking about that for those of you come in and understand there are a couple of big companies one of them is called next star and they own a whole bunch of TV stations and they are trying to buy another group called tegna buys another that they have a whole bunch of other TV stations. [SPEAKER_08]: Then of course you have sinclair. [SPEAKER_08]: As we all know, sinclair is the fox, right-wing news.
[SPEAKER_08]: And when I say right-wing, I mean it because they're Nazis and they don't like it, they can change the way they are. [SPEAKER_08]: So they're right-wing broadcasters, and they have the licenses of a lot of local stations. [SPEAKER_08]: And next are, well, not nearly as far right as sinclair, somewhat to the right still. [SPEAKER_15]: And they want the merger to go through.
[SPEAKER_15]: So this firing of Jimmy Kimmel will it's a bribe like when paramount did it's the same thing without money. [SPEAKER_15]: It's the same thing without money and you cannot threaten him. [SPEAKER_08]: What he did is he told them. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, you know, you're under threats of these things, but if you do this type of thing, so Brendan Carter this early, we have the stories to go with this in the news on Tap today.
[SPEAKER_08]: So the cowardly Disney executives caved to FCC chairman, Brendan Carr, caved to his threats. [SPEAKER_08]: Here's the thing, if you click on a couple of the stories, I believe the second one is from the Daily Beast, and it actually goes through the process, the ABC and Disney execs were in support of Kimmel.
[SPEAKER_08]: But before this started, they were, and even through some of it, but then they got afraid because the next star execs and the Sinclair execs said, well, Brandon Carson, so if you don't do it, well, we're just going to pre-empt you. [SPEAKER_15]: Well, and that's why they didn't do a show last night because it's not worth it for them to, I mean, I assume everybody got paid, but, and that's my question about this suspension. [SPEAKER_15]: Is it suspension with pay?
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, it's a suspension. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, that that just did. [SPEAKER_08]: We don't know whether it's a suspension with pay. [SPEAKER_08]: We don't know. [SPEAKER_08]: We have no idea what my neighbor does right for Jimmy Kimmel. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, well, you should ask if he got paid for that. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, no, yes, today I was texting his wife going on F-A-B-C.
[SPEAKER_15]: F-A-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F-F [SPEAKER_08]: This is the first of them in issue and of course when you're talking about first men in issues and kicking trumps ass what you really need is a fantastic lawyer who's done it before and look right here in the bar we have our own back up all through posa
[SPEAKER_10]: honored to be the story company. [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, it's great to have you here. [SPEAKER_08]: So honestly, okay. [SPEAKER_08]: This, when, when you first saw this coming down yesterday, this story coming down did it give you flashbacks to 2018. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, I think I get flashbacks on a near daily basis. [SPEAKER_10]: It doesn't, doesn't make me alone. [SPEAKER_10]: Either domestically or internationally at this point. [SPEAKER_10]: Sadly is.
[SPEAKER_08]: I, for those people who will have worked, we're almost, you all right, they're shun. [SPEAKER_15]: Please don't do that. [SPEAKER_15]: I can't do the show without you. [SPEAKER_08]: I need another drink. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, you and Rebecca could, but I need another drink. [SPEAKER_08]: When we come back, I want you to refresh people's brains about what happened in 2018.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then, Jody, I have a bunch of questions regarding the first amendment stuff and about, you know, how deep in doggy due to is Brendan Carr for all the crap that he said beforehand, because I would prefer that he be up to it above his eyeballs. [SPEAKER_08]: Me too. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just me, bud. [SPEAKER_08]: Look, we will ask Rebecca when she comes back. [SPEAKER_08]: What we'll do now, look, you go get your drink refresh. [SPEAKER_08]: I will get my drink refreshed.
[SPEAKER_08]: Jody and Rebecca will get their drinks refreshed. [SPEAKER_08]: And then welcome back and we'll trash talk Donald Trump and Brendan Carr and figure out the first amendment law because we have the first amendment, we can trash them, right? [SPEAKER_08]: And we have a lawyer, hey, this is great, we can do this. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on back, get us a couple minutes here at the politics party. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
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[SPEAKER_08]: So Rebecca's like hey I remember that's look we have we have great drinks and we have great guests right now Rebecca Pella buck Walter Posa is in of the bar with us [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so for those of you who do not remember RPP, your initials that you use on all kinds of social media, especially an including Twitter, can you refresh the memory in the folks here in the bar about that whole 2018 thing and how you kick the social management's asset that point?
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, you know, I at the time was balancing hats as a policy fellow and a journalist and I had made the questionable decision to set up an alert for each time the orange one tweeted. [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm so sorry. [SPEAKER_15]: You were working up in the middle of the night a lot. [SPEAKER_10]: It was my wrist was getting caught. [SPEAKER_10]: He was twoping. [SPEAKER_10]: He was twoping. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_10]: I did not, that's not to talk back at him. [SPEAKER_10]: But like a lot of journalists, I mean, it was, I was not the only one. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, so many, he changed the new cycle. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: So we would all hop into this conversation all on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_10]: And, and I presumably took no notice of me and tell he treated all these crooked news organizations, ABC, CBS, you know, etc. [SPEAKER_10]: If you're up to them, I never would have won the White House. [SPEAKER_04]: Please. [SPEAKER_15]: Please. [SPEAKER_15]: Without them, he would, without them, he wouldn't have won the White House. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_15]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_15]: Judy's right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And you know what, I'm actually perfectly happy with my inability to do a Trump impression. [SPEAKER_10]: Same. [SPEAKER_05]: Same. [SPEAKER_10]: Same. [SPEAKER_10]: For the DNC in 2008, by the end of it, I was dreaming in Sarah Cayland. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_15]: So, those are the housey on days of Sarah Palin. [SPEAKER_15]: I miss her and her word salads. [SPEAKER_10]: That's purged now, yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: It was going to say it only seems like word salads at that point in time. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, so Trump did this and then you kind of quote tweeted him as I recall. [SPEAKER_10]: I quoted him and I just said, nothing, anything of it, just, you know, banging the same drum I've been banging, um, to be fair, you didn't win the White House rush or what it for you. [SPEAKER_10]: Rubik is right. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, yes, okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm in the Jodi is right column there. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so in my wrist stop buzzing, so it doesn't really occur naturally that the present in the United States, well, I mean, either uses Twitter is already kind of surreal, right? [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but we might have [SPEAKER_10]: walked me.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just figured Twitter updated something and then I access to your browser, I saw all these gray boxes because anything he tweeted, anything someone that I followed was responding to, et cetera, it was all blocked from my view unless I wanted to sign out and go look at it that way. [SPEAKER_10]: But then I wasn't part of the same conversations because I had a verified account and was, you know, established as a journalist and a policy nerd with my ilk on Twitter, right.
[SPEAKER_10]: So Columbia University has the night for Simone Institute, which is a fantastic establishment and they started looking for folks who've been blocked by Trump around that time June 2017. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: And my dear friend Josh Love and among others said, Oh, you might want to consider doing as I've finally gone to Trump's Twitter page and the page actually just was, you know, real Donald Trump has bought you from That's what happens.
[SPEAKER_15]: I guess when you're blocked. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm pretty sure I had to pinch myself, but right, it took me actually navigating to that page to solve the mystery. [SPEAKER_10]: Question, you know, question my, my brightness at that point, but it was stunning. [SPEAKER_10]: And so I said, okay, you know, sure. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm, [SPEAKER_10]: Here you go, Columbia. [SPEAKER_10]: Here's my information. [SPEAKER_10]: Here's what happened.
[SPEAKER_10]: And got a call not long after from a very nervous lost you all agreed through every tweet I'd said since the end of the 2008 election, [SPEAKER_10]: And yeah, I don't know how much lesbian humor he'd been exposed to. [SPEAKER_10]: Poor baby. [SPEAKER_10]: I think we're talking about carabiner's and jokes. [SPEAKER_10]: But it's so nice. [SPEAKER_10]: It's so nervous. [SPEAKER_10]: And I think he had a sense of the scale of this better than I did.
[SPEAKER_10]: He said, Well, and it seems like you didn't use even profanity on Twitter, except that one tweet. [SPEAKER_10]: I was like, it was about China's beef export policy wasn't it? [SPEAKER_10]: And within a couple of days, I got a more formal call asked me if that would be part note. [SPEAKER_10]: No, it was not law student who asked me if I would be part of the law student. [SPEAKER_10]: I said, maybe it's the final round.
[SPEAKER_10]: They wanted sort of a diverse cast of characters to bring this. [SPEAKER_10]: which makes sense, and I said yes, and he also couldn't seem to believe that, but again, he may have been in shock just from the pure volume of you know at the end at the end of all of this you guys won you won. [SPEAKER_08]: What was the the the concise ruling on the first amendment because I think that does that kind of apply right now Yeah, you're shaking your yoke.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because I think it kind of applies to to what's going on here I Great Brendan Carr does not have the right To use the first amendment to threaten these affiliates, especially when one has a pending merger in front of the fence especially [SPEAKER_08]: And they don't have the right to threaten Jimmy Kimmel either, so am I right that the first amendment that your case like that has some overlap here. [SPEAKER_10]: Trump land made sure that my case went nowhere.
[SPEAKER_10]: We won three times, and so I introduced a New York on the second circuit. [SPEAKER_10]: Second circuit said, we're not rehearing it. [SPEAKER_10]: Springport sat on it until they could say it was moot in a 20 point, because the appealed process can't be completed before the transfer of office. [SPEAKER_10]: So actually, the final disposition of the case was Biden's name, not Trump's.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just a couple of years later, this Supreme Court took up two cases that presented pretty much exactly the same question. [SPEAKER_10]: They came up with a narrow rule. [SPEAKER_10]: And their bright line rule is that it counts as state speech and therefore is subject to the first amendment. [SPEAKER_10]: And the public forum, which is, you can't ban someone from a public forum just because they're viewpoint if you're the state under the First Amendment.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, like it's a criteria actual authority to use your social media account as an office holder. [SPEAKER_10]: and that you're exercising authority. [SPEAKER_10]: I think they just wanted to sound a little fancier because that's basically the second circuit decided. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm like if having an A and a B makes you feel smarter, okay? [SPEAKER_08]: But they're saying that that's you can't ban people in a public forum from following him from having their own opinion.
[SPEAKER_15]: Well, as he's a public servant, I imagine if he's private, you can block anybody you want, but if he's tweeting as the president of the United States, no, he can't block you. [SPEAKER_08]: And that goes to something that Caitlin Collins literally, Joe, you just saw this here, not too long ago when we were getting in the bar, kind of setting things up for this afternoon. [SPEAKER_08]: So apparently, uh, a grantee on his way back from the UK,
[SPEAKER_08]: said to the the assembled press corps on air force one catelyn says he said quote or when you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit trump that's all they do if you go back i guess they haven't had a conservative one in years or something but when you go back and take a look all they do is hit trump their license to they're not allowed to do that yes they are uh-huh and that's just our emotional take as a lawyer Rebecca are they actually allowed to do that
[SPEAKER_10]: In my audition here for a general counsel at the Paul Diggs Various. [SPEAKER_10]: So I don't represent either of you. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not barred in your states, et cetera. [SPEAKER_10]: It's the Virginia Bar asked. [SPEAKER_10]: No, I mean, you absolutely can't. [SPEAKER_10]: That's viewpoint discrimination.
[SPEAKER_10]: That was the thing that was showing about the case we brought is they conceived a viewpoint [SPEAKER_10]: an account to say something in an office and personally blocking. [SPEAKER_10]: He said that the act of blocking was personal. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: that's somehow. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, that doesn't. [SPEAKER_08]: So the act of blocking his personal, but the account is a public forum, and no, that, uh, go.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'll tell you, I could live the rest of my life without the moment that I heard that he had personally with his own little orange thumb walked me. [SPEAKER_10]: And it should [SPEAKER_10]: to the target of the lawsuit from Scovino from, you know, including White House staff to just Trump. [SPEAKER_10]: Because he done it on his own. [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_15]: He did all by his own. [SPEAKER_15]: Some little [SPEAKER_15]: Tina Tannen, little thumbs.
[SPEAKER_08]: So here's the thing. [SPEAKER_08]: It is that the key that we're focusing on, that goes with both your case and this case right here is viewpoint discrimination. [SPEAKER_08]: Yep. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the fact that the government cannot block you from the public sphere for your viewpoints and they cannot lean on private companies to block your viewpoints. [SPEAKER_08]: Am I correct on that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Yes, and here's the thing that makes this kind of here's your twist is that a pair of cases that they took not long after declaring ours move had to do with Florida and Texas trying to regulate how social media platforms regulated their own content. [SPEAKER_10]: The decision was that the government can't lean on social media platforms to do their moderation practices.
[SPEAKER_10]: So this is, I mean, rest you Dakota's, the manager Latin for me personally attended, but you know, established law.
[SPEAKER_08]: they can't they can't and because of the fact especially these days because social media companies want to be considered media they want to be considered like news like entertainment so that they can't be considered a common carrier like a telephone company because the rules are completely different for everybody here in the bar doesn't understand telephone company rules completely different than say those of a CNN or an MSNBC is rule 230 part of this where
[SPEAKER_15]: media company, what I post is on me, but not on Twitter or on anybody. [SPEAKER_15]: Is that the same am I correct on that? [SPEAKER_15]: Like if I post something on Facebook, Facebook can take it down, but legally speaking, they're not responsible for my content. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: They are a platform. [SPEAKER_15]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: Right.
[SPEAKER_10]: And your voice is your voice and that's part of why I, you know, having chosen a platform, the state can't then change how the platform mediates you. [SPEAKER_10]: So, but this, of course, all ties into a much larger crusade to completely rewrite the first amendment. [SPEAKER_10]: Interesting intersection of issues is section 230. [SPEAKER_10]: It's, you know, what we know about public forums, the debate over social media and the internet.
[SPEAKER_10]: And a host of other things, I think that's going to be hard for courts to figure out harder for some than others. [SPEAKER_10]: No, not on nominations and confirmations there. [SPEAKER_10]: How all of this play, how things play into each other in the sense that some of this is direct coercion.
[SPEAKER_10]: Some of this is flagrant and right out in public, but for everything that they're openly doing, [SPEAKER_10]: what are the things that they're not openly doing and how are they on different companies? [SPEAKER_10]: And that's troubling, right? [SPEAKER_10]: This is the tip of the iceberg and it's a very big tip. [SPEAKER_15]: Well, it's like, I'm sorry, but with section 230, I equate it to say you have a cable company who hosts all these networks.
[SPEAKER_15]: and cable shows, right? [SPEAKER_15]: They're not responsible for CVS, what the content is for CVS. [SPEAKER_15]: They're not responsible for Fox News. [SPEAKER_15]: They're not responsible for that. [SPEAKER_15]: So that to me is what I equate it with is like spectrum, charter, whatever it is, sling, whatever. [SPEAKER_15]: They host these things, but they're not putting them out there.
[SPEAKER_15]: They're allowing them to be on there and they can obviously get rid of them on their own. [SPEAKER_15]: But the government can't tell them to do that. [SPEAKER_15]: Am I right? [SPEAKER_10]: Can't say, you know, force the indefinite suspension of a late night host or, you know, use different levers of power to end the career of a popular late night news comedian. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Yep. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the law.
[SPEAKER_08]: The law is not on their side on all of this. [SPEAKER_08]: And that is, I think, one of the key things for everybody who says who gets worried and they say, oh my god, you know, we're going to, you know, it's, oh, we're doomed. [SPEAKER_08]: We're all going to, I go stop. [SPEAKER_08]: Stop because, so long as there are still rules that we're all playing by, even if they are a little bit Calvin ball like, there are rules.
[SPEAKER_08]: And the rules say you can't do things in that particular way. [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm sorry, but you know, actually I'm not sorry. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm pretty damn happy that that the rules do not side with Donald Trump and his regime and in this case especially and I am I'm wanting so badly for them to get sucked in the teeth on this that that's just my personally metaphorically Sean Louise. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_08]: Sorry metaphorically Rebecca can we get you to hang around for one more round? [SPEAKER_08]: Absolute. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I love it Rebecca. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, our post is here. [SPEAKER_08]: We got a lot of important stuff. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll talk a little bit more other stuff because there's a lot of other political news that's in the news on tap today And Rebecca's knowledgeable about that too. [SPEAKER_08]: Jody and me and Rebecca will be back with you.
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know like two three minutes hang on [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Jodi, once again, is right. [SPEAKER_08]: Look, subscribe to the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_08]: You can get it all and get the drink. [SPEAKER_08]: You get the podcast, ad-free, and get the news on tap. [SPEAKER_08]: Check it all out. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just $6 a month, a buck 50 week right there at the Palm Springs Park.
[SPEAKER_08]: OK, Rebecca, so we pretty much determined that Donald Trump's regime and especially Brendan Carr. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, Brendan Carr gets some really serious trouble for doing because I'm sure you've heard the clip where he was on Benny Johnson show and basically telling next star and sinclair what they were supposed to do and then, of course, they did it.
[SPEAKER_08]: And this is, of course, after the August 6th, we're Donald Trump said, oh, yeah, well, you know, we got rid of Colbert, Stephen Colbert, and now we're gonna get rid of the Jimmy's as well. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, and Seth, don't forget Seth Myers. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, yeah, he's, he hates Seth too. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, are they looking at some serious problems on that because they basically voiced their intentions to use the laws of weapon?
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, under any other set of circumstances, [SPEAKER_10]: I'd say, you know, the resignation should have followed within an hour. [SPEAKER_10]: But I think we're going to see the Trump administration cabinet members appointed officials. [SPEAKER_10]: It's just going to be a revolving door. [SPEAKER_10]: They're going to maybe disappear them and maybe not even indefinitely, but they're very unlikely of face serious penalties.
[SPEAKER_10]: Our courts are overwhelmed and overtaken my Trump. [SPEAKER_10]: He appointed 234 federal judges like I got in his firm about a quarter of the judiciary. [SPEAKER_10]: Um, so, you know, under any other set of circumstances, but we may have to wait a lifetime before we have any sense of the potential for accountability again. [SPEAKER_08]: She's I'm I'm hoping that when we get in, we can do a nice judicial review on all of them and get rid of everybody who sucks.
[SPEAKER_15]: That would be my optimal, but even Laura Ingram said last night I believe, why did he say it on a podcast? [SPEAKER_15]: He should have just kept it quiet.
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[SPEAKER_08]: And honestly, I would not be surprised if it's in his contract that he has the ability to take his stuff and go elsewhere. [SPEAKER_15]: Got Netflix. [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, then they can swear. [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, there's so many other things that he could take his show to where he can really let loose. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and here's the big thing on when you're looking at the big three networks. [SPEAKER_08]: ABC NBC and CBS NBC of course had the tonight show.
[SPEAKER_08]: That was the original. [SPEAKER_08]: And then, of course, CBS had the light show with Letterman and that became the second. [SPEAKER_08]: ABC was desperate to find something that would be kind of a late night humor comedy thing. [SPEAKER_15]: Did they start with the man show? [SPEAKER_08]: No, that was MTV. [SPEAKER_08]: That was MTV. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but they brought in and at first they didn't know. [SPEAKER_08]: And then, you know, Kimmel has over time.
[SPEAKER_08]: He has become kind of institution there. [SPEAKER_08]: What they're doing by this is they're going, you know what? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, the 20 years of investment we did whatever screw. [SPEAKER_08]: We're throwing all of that down the drain. [SPEAKER_08]: And you still have like you said, Jody, there he is still all the other platforms that are out there.
[SPEAKER_08]: Kimmel will be able to take most, I'm sure a lot of the stuff that he does with him, as far as IP in a neutral property. [SPEAKER_08]: And they're still gonna end up having to pay him a very pretty penny anyway. [SPEAKER_08]: And they'll have nothing. [SPEAKER_08]: They'll have nothing there at that point. [SPEAKER_08]: And all of their affiliates, this is one thing that a lot of people don't know, here in the bar and just in general in broadcasting.
[SPEAKER_08]: When you've got a show, like our show, our show is here in the bar, we have affiliates. [SPEAKER_08]: affiliates, when they look at new shows coming in, they want you to be somebody that brings in a draw. [SPEAKER_08]: Like, you know, our folks in the bar here are audience knows Jody from Steph's show, they know me from Randy's show, they know us from other places and things that we've done.
[SPEAKER_08]: So it's nice that they were able to continue that and their ratings have done pretty good because we were able to continue that. [SPEAKER_08]: Your standard network, your local TV network news, [SPEAKER_08]: The reason one of the reasons that they still have something on from the network after the local news is that [SPEAKER_08]: The big networks, the big three, still want the local news to do well.
[SPEAKER_08]: So they pair up your Saturday night live on your Saturday, and they pair up your jimmies and your Steven, because people will go, and I'll turn into like half the news. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not exactly 1030 or 1130, whatever, I'll tune in and I'll watch a little of it, because I really want to watch the show. [SPEAKER_08]: So they catch part of it and they catch those ratings.
[SPEAKER_08]: For the ABC affiliates now, they will look at the big network and they'll say, you now have nothing on after our local news. [SPEAKER_08]: You have nothing. [SPEAKER_08]: So the deal that we make to provide you a place to put your programming is a significantly less valuable deal. [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, I mean, ABC's going to have to owe a lot of these affiliates a lot of money. [SPEAKER_15]: Say, I don't know, here in Los Angeles.
[SPEAKER_08]: I see, joining new exactly where I was going and I knew you would because you've been on the entertainment side of it and that's the whole thing. [SPEAKER_08]: They are shooting themselves in the head business-wise on this. [SPEAKER_08]: All they would have to do and, you know, he's suspended. [SPEAKER_08]: By the time you hear this, maybe if you're listening, if you're one of those future people, listening on the podcast, maybe it's changed.
[SPEAKER_08]: But right now he's suspended and they're going to have to look at that as a bottom line. [SPEAKER_08]: If they end up firing him, [SPEAKER_08]: And they're going to have to sign a nice big check to Jimmy, a check to probably everybody on his staff. [SPEAKER_08]: And then they're going to have to sign big ass checks to all their affiliates for screwing them over. [SPEAKER_08]: That's a whole lot of money.
[SPEAKER_08]: So I, you know, it's, it's, plus Democrats, I was, I was actually really freaking pleased today to see Democrats stepping up and actually doing this top congressional Democrats of call for the FCC chair to resign.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: calling the Jimmy Kimmel suspension as a corrupt abuse of power and Robert Garcia the top oversight Democrat is launching his own investigation of the Trump administration ABC and sinclair and here's the thing he said this earlier today he was on either was NBC now or MSNBC something like that he said the questions that he wants to ask is was there coordination between ABC next star and sinclair because if he did that's a whole
[SPEAKER_15]: My speculation is yes, but it's a speculation. [SPEAKER_15]: So it's a legend. [SPEAKER_15]: I have a lawyer here, so it's a speculation. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, we do it for the commentary here. [SPEAKER_08]: We can speculate, right, Rebecca?
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, sure, speculatively, allegedly, I think Greeko is probably the most underused statute with respect to Trump, the Trump organization and his entire history and that comes from a dear friend of mine that I'm missing one Westbrook Murphy, but he would test me [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sure Westbrook that there is cause of action. [SPEAKER_08]: This is after all the Trump regime.
[SPEAKER_08]: They always do something wrong, but you know, but the fact of the matter is, well Garcia would not have subpoena power. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, as an investigation, if he finds something like that, that can come out, and then it can come out if it finds if he finds something like that, and because it was damaging to the affiliates, if it was damaging to Jimmy Kimmel, wouldn't the affiliates and Kimmel have status to sue with that point? [SPEAKER_08]: I would hope.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, I think that anyone who can claim an injury directly traceable, which is a whole lot of people. [SPEAKER_10]: can certainly make a, but I mean, it's all just so mind-boggling. [SPEAKER_10]: You all did a great job covering those sort of abuse of the regulatory. [SPEAKER_10]: network. [SPEAKER_10]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_10]: And, you know, one of the things is I, I want to listen and I want to yell Chevron doctor and Chevron. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, thank you.
[SPEAKER_08]: I wish I wish God because it's a pretty court decided to pee all over the Chevron doctor. [SPEAKER_10]: They sure did. [SPEAKER_10]: And it took him 40 years to do it about the same amount of time. [SPEAKER_10]: It took him to flip the second amendment and we're in the process of flipping the first amendment to mean a whole lot of things that it doesn't, you know. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: ask me later about Elon Musk. [SPEAKER_12]: I will. [SPEAKER_12]: I will.
[SPEAKER_08]: I will tell you what. [SPEAKER_10]: What about Elon Musk? [SPEAKER_10]: But I mean, no, a whole lot of people will certainly have causes, but we're, you know, just going to be waiting through so many different legal, you know, snafus. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, here's the other, here's the other thing. [SPEAKER_08]: So there's Jackass on social media.
[SPEAKER_08]: This, you know, grappy jackass says that he's going to [SPEAKER_08]: OK, for those of you who can't see Rebecca just rolled her eyeballs all the way back at her head because correct me if I'm wrong, um, first of all, you cannot designate an idea law and an ideology like feminism. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, you can't say I am designating feminism as a terrorist group. [SPEAKER_08]: What if you could, though?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, sure, I mean, yeah, absolutely, that I would, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm in favor of the idea, but the law doesn't allow for it. [SPEAKER_08]: And in fact, we have a fact check that's also in the news on tap points out from 2020. [SPEAKER_08]: We're Trump tried this. [SPEAKER_08]: You cannot designate Antifa as it's not a thing. [SPEAKER_15]: It's just an ideology. [SPEAKER_10]: It's not as we really have domestic terrorism statute. [SPEAKER_10]: No, and also that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: I also, I'm just always deeply curious to know who is it that's like, no, I'm pro fascism. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes. [SPEAKER_10]: And I fashion, you know, and I'm the granddaughter of a man that like, I exist because my grandfather was able to escape during the Spanish Civil War and come to this country. [SPEAKER_10]: Like, I know what fascism looks like. [SPEAKER_10]: This is what fascism looks like.
[SPEAKER_10]: And, you know, [SPEAKER_08]: So this is this this this is just this is the whole thing for me worms that they're going guys and the fact that every time somebody stands up to these little twits. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you know, I like of of the early 2020 it picks first of all let's get done with 2025 elections first but [SPEAKER_08]: We have we have some good news for that in the election land section today at the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_08]: But of the people who are being discussed as potential Democratic leaders, I like Pritzker. [SPEAKER_08]: I did too. [SPEAKER_08]: Because he doesn't put up with any crap and so far in Chicago, we have a story that's in the news on tap today in the Immigration War section about 30 arrests so far have been reported. [SPEAKER_08]: That's about it. [SPEAKER_08]: Now, the feds are not technically updating that, but only 30.
[SPEAKER_08]: And now they've launched their second immigration enforcement action because their first one didn't really do squat. [SPEAKER_08]: And part of that is because the people of Chicago have been standing up and I have been very much cheered. [SPEAKER_08]: Karen in Chicago, who, you know, we have on Friday, she'll be here tomorrow. [SPEAKER_08]: Cat Abigail a great candidate, I believe Illinois nine. [SPEAKER_08]: She has been leading some great protests there.
[SPEAKER_08]: There are a lot of great local people. [SPEAKER_08]: people who are in the WCPT area who are, you know, standing up, doing the things that they learn from LA and from DC, where every time the ice monsters come in, they have the cameras, and I'm like, folks, you stand up to fascists, they back down. [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_15]: Some people I know, there's a restaurant not far from me.
[SPEAKER_15]: Apparently ice was there last night waiting for workers to leave. [SPEAKER_15]: And most of the people that work there have been working [SPEAKER_15]: And one of the restaurants that Lonnie and I go to this lovely Mexican restaurant, not far from here, since I started coming into Los Angeles, the first time we went, all new weight stuff. [SPEAKER_15]: Because they just don't want to come to work. [SPEAKER_08]: They're scared. [SPEAKER_08]: I get it. [SPEAKER_08]: They're scared.
[SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca, can we ask you to come back another time? [SPEAKER_08]: I know you've got a new piece coming out in Out Magazine, I believe this weekend. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, and I would love to be back. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, today, Joe, he called me pretty today. [SPEAKER_08]: You are a pretty, what? [SPEAKER_08]: You are a pretty. [SPEAKER_08]: You're pretty and you're smart and you're fantastic and you're fun and you're funny and we love having you in the bar.
[SPEAKER_10]: I love your show. [SPEAKER_10]: So thank you so much. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so that I'm pretty sure that's a yes that she'll be coming back to you. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just... [SPEAKER_08]: Rebecca, thank you very much. [SPEAKER_08]: We will get to the drink of the day.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And she said she was an amazing actor and and she did play for the ladies. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, yes, she was a lesbian and she, you know what, that's maybe part of the reason why that she was in the time that she was famous, that she didn't like necessarily being, you know, out and doing all the things that made crap. [SPEAKER_15]: That time, are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_15]: She would have never been hired.
[SPEAKER_08]: I suppose but it sounds like she just didn't want to put on airs and I get that she didn't want to pretend that she wasn't a lesbian And so which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Does she like that? [SPEAKER_08]: No, she hates cilantro. [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, so that's it's the same thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think for a lot of people who, you know, cilantro tastes like soap to them. [SPEAKER_08]: They're not necessarily a fan of Anus oil either. [SPEAKER_08]: But that sounds like that's what absinthe or per hour regardless of what they're all they're all in a sense. [SPEAKER_15]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_15]: And there's an optional garnish.
[SPEAKER_15]: You don't have to use it called star ennease. [SPEAKER_08]: Which is the same family. [SPEAKER_15]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_15]: I mean, that's the, and if you get real absinthe, you're going to get a little bit more drunk than you would. [SPEAKER_15]: Not real absinthe. [SPEAKER_07]: Just say how do you put all these pieces parts together? [SPEAKER_15]: All right, you pour the absence, et cetera, into a chilled cocktail glass world to coat and then pour the rest of it off.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, so you don't want to keep the absence in the glass. [SPEAKER_15]: You know, it's just going to kind of give it a little flavor. [SPEAKER_15]: Got it. [SPEAKER_15]: Okay, got it. [SPEAKER_15]: Add rum, lime juice, and simple syrup to your shaker. [SPEAKER_15]: Add the ice cream. [SPEAKER_08]: Add the ice cream, and the vericina syrup, right? [SPEAKER_15]: Yes, and, um, yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Shake it. [SPEAKER_12]: Shake it until frosty, it's frosty cold.
[SPEAKER_15]: And then you strain it into your Nicanora glass and you float the optional garnish on top of the drink if you so desire. [SPEAKER_08]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_08]: It's an excellent drink and remember, keep your secrets. [SPEAKER_15]: Well, yeah, if you want to be alone, it's okay. [SPEAKER_08]: But we prefer you hang out with us here. [SPEAKER_08]: We don't want you. [SPEAKER_08]: We don't want you being alone. [SPEAKER_08]: How are your friends?
[SPEAKER_08]: In fact, you can listen to the politics bar with your friends. [SPEAKER_15]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_08]: See, very smart thing to do. [SPEAKER_08]: If you missed any part of the drink of the day, you can always check it out at the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_08]: All right, Jody, more news on Tap John Fibil Singh is on his way. [SPEAKER_08]: That's selling author John Fibil Singh. [SPEAKER_08]: That is so freaking cool. [SPEAKER_08]: I am so glad to say.
[SPEAKER_15]: This book's been out one a week. [SPEAKER_08]: But look, I mean, you know, a lot of us have been, you know, saying, to our friends, hey, look, read the book. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, grab your friend and smack him with the book and be like, you need to read this, but it's because it's good. [SPEAKER_08]: Something gets not so good, unfortunately. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, depends on how you look at it. [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm kind of glad that Democrats are actually finally standing up.
[SPEAKER_08]: The Democrats are standing up clearly on the first amendment, Jimmy Kimmel issue. [SPEAKER_08]: And Democrats are also standing up on the shutdown issue. [SPEAKER_08]: Remember how I said I was worried that Chuck was going to screw us all? [SPEAKER_15]: I do remember that. [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And it was going to be one of those Chuck U. Farley moments. [SPEAKER_08]: And it does not.
[SPEAKER_08]: In fact, it looks like that Chuck knew that the Republicans were not going to accept his proposals. [SPEAKER_08]: So he and he came, put these proposals up, Republican said, hell no, you, you sent me an article and I had an updated article after that because they sent it last night. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And within like two hours, Republicans in the house said, no, no, we don't like the Democrats. [SPEAKER_15]: Then it's their shutdown. [SPEAKER_08]: It is.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're going to be the Republicans shut down. [SPEAKER_08]: They will own this completely, and especially because Donald Trump told them, what do we say the other day? [SPEAKER_08]: There's a piece there that said, Donald Trump said, don't you don't have to work with Democrats? [SPEAKER_15]: I'm sorry, but in the Senate, you kind of do. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Because you need 60 votes, stupid old grantee. [SPEAKER_15]: It's not a reconciliation bill.
[SPEAKER_15]: This is a bill that can be filibustered. [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but you know, Grampi doesn't exactly know what the hell he's doing. [SPEAKER_08]: Do you see him a rambling through the speech at Windsor Castle? [SPEAKER_15]: Oh, we're the hottest country apparently.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Look, being old isn't a problem. [SPEAKER_08]: I have some friends who are older than that. [SPEAKER_08]: They are not答tering. [SPEAKER_15]: My mom is 92. [SPEAKER_15]: She's not答tering. [SPEAKER_08]: No, but Donnie clearly is. [SPEAKER_08]: And that doesn't surprise me given his his diet. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I'm sorry, but when you eat McDonald's and Burger King all the time and drink, you know, doesn't die at Cokes a day. [SPEAKER_15]: And allegedly do some atterall.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I don't know about that, but I do know that he's no castler knows. [SPEAKER_08]: This is true, Noel has mentioned some of this kind of stuff. [SPEAKER_15]: I'm trying to get him on the show. [SPEAKER_08]: Trump, oh, that'd be great. [SPEAKER_08]: Trump did get a starman, prime minister, a starman to sign a billion dollar tech deal. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know how much I haven't actually seen it.
[SPEAKER_08]: It could just be that they said they signed it and it was another rumor because we know how he says he does deals and then they don't actually put any paperwork through because that's gonna have that go. [SPEAKER_14]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_14]: Hey, look. [SPEAKER_08]: We were just talking about this young man coming in the door here here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_08]: You got it. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the one and only John Fugelsang best selling off our John Fugelsang.
[SPEAKER_08]: Separation of church and hate. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_13]: Okay. [SPEAKER_13]: Let me correct you. [SPEAKER_13]: Liberal swine. [SPEAKER_13]: I think the word you're looking for is New York Times. [SPEAKER_13]: Best of all. [SPEAKER_13]: They're going to have to clarify that. [SPEAKER_08]: You're absolutely right. [SPEAKER_08]: John Fiegelsang is right. [SPEAKER_13]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_13]: I'm going to swing that one around. [SPEAKER_13]: Let me tell you.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's what you should. [SPEAKER_13]: I'm going to hit every other pastry guy in the locker room with that big old swing thing. [SPEAKER_08]: You said you were worried. [SPEAKER_13]: going up against Kamala and we told you that look you would have it be just fine and who would have known who would have known that a mediocre white man could be to woman like Kamala Harris so easily. [SPEAKER_13]: I guess I proved it.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, who would have known a mediocre is morally a scam slaying white man like myself could do this well against [SPEAKER_07]: I know. [SPEAKER_13]: I'll tell you, I'll tell you, though, what I said about it was last week, I had a few cable news appearances. [SPEAKER_13]: They got, they got pushed, you know, that happens in, in cable news on radio. [SPEAKER_13]: We bump, guess all the time, but my book released with no corporate media appearances that week.
[SPEAKER_13]: I just done some MMS and CNN in the weeks before a little bit, but nothing that [SPEAKER_13]: That's what really made me feel good. [SPEAKER_13]: I've been saying for a long time on serious sex.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm that these Democrats need to take a page out of JD Vance's book because, you know, little Puggy eyeliner model, he went to every racist and a basement of his mom's house with a podcast, little Puggy, little A-Moral, little eyeliner model, man, baby, baby man, Trump is man, baby, he's baby man, baby man, when it's every racist face, and I've been saying, you know, I love seeing you Democrats in the green rooms at MSNBC and CNN,
[SPEAKER_13]: maybe get your hands dirty and start doing independent progressive media, right? [SPEAKER_13]: I've been saying it for ages. [SPEAKER_13]: Well, I realized in August, you know, when I was doing goofy mainstream TV, I could get booked in all these shows, but for a book about politics and and Christianity, even though I think it's really mainstream, it's pro. [SPEAKER_13]: It is. [SPEAKER_13]: This is pro God. [SPEAKER_13]: It's it's probing nice to people, but it's third rail.
[SPEAKER_13]: And so I knew in August, I'm going to have to go on every little progressive podcast and every looking [SPEAKER_13]: And I've been doing like five a day, roughly, for about a month and a half. [SPEAKER_13]: So, long story short, two days ago, the good folks at Simon and Shuster call me on the phone. [SPEAKER_13]: And I didn't know my phone rang, I didn't know two calls, it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_13]: It just takes pictures and text messages like wow, I thought texting and porn, but does me. [SPEAKER_13]: And this, this fella said to me, they wanted to know what media appearances have you done that we don't know about. [SPEAKER_04]: All of them. [SPEAKER_13]: Well, I've done Malcolm Nance's show and I do the politics bar and I just did Mary and Williamson. [SPEAKER_13]: She's got a lot of followers and they're like, no, no, but your books flying off the shelves.
[SPEAKER_13]: What, how did you do this? [SPEAKER_13]: And literally they asked me to send them a list the other day of every radio show and podcast I've done promoting this book in the last month because the marketing department wanted to know why this was happening because I don't have a TV show and haven't been on TV shows once I've not been interviewed about this book once on TV and just on the basis of independent progressive media a book about Christian nationalist and Jesus.
[SPEAKER_13]: makes a New York Times bestseller list. [SPEAKER_13]: I'm so grateful to your audience and I'm so grateful to the majority of Americans who are not on board with this and don't see the corporate media reflecting how they feel. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, most people, I think there's at least a hundred million who were raised religious. [SPEAKER_13]: Now consider themselves spiritual, because they feel alienated from all this cruelty, not creating a Christianity. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: And you know what these people have in common? [SPEAKER_13]: They don't think a president should be protecting powerful child rapists in a pile. [SPEAKER_13]: Right. [SPEAKER_13]: So that's who my audience is. [SPEAKER_13]: And I just want to say, oh, great, grateful I am. [SPEAKER_13]: That it's independent. [SPEAKER_13]: Progressive media did this and worked her mouth.
[SPEAKER_13]: I didn't need to get on and now of course I'll go in a big show would be a complete horror and and you know So as much as you can I my goal is to be a Republican by next year. [SPEAKER_08]: That's my god a man John we are so glad that you are here tonight. [SPEAKER_08]: There is so much news to talk about ways there. [SPEAKER_12]: I haven't followed it [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I'm sure you've got to do the thing look down the hall.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know the direction look we aim to please hear the politics bar You aim to please we don't have too much clean up later all right? [SPEAKER_08]: All right, give us like three four minutes. [SPEAKER_08]: Come back. [SPEAKER_08]: We have the one and only John Fugelsack in the house at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thursday night here at the politics bar, you know what that means it is time to have the one and only John Fuegel saying The New York Times best selling all right recognize You went to eat a swine [SPEAKER_08]: We're super glad that it has been so popular.
[SPEAKER_08]: We're very glad, by the way, that you folks here in the politics bar have told your friends about the best thing that you can do is not only by John's book, but of course make sure that you are subscribed to the politics bar podcast Like your favorite podcast player. [SPEAKER_08]: Of course, you can just pay that $6 a month cover charge. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a perfect week.
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[SPEAKER_08]: all you left us causing all the violence with your demands for more time for your life's time with your views and subsack as well and you could subscribe to his podcast it's serious xm see a lot of things that you guys can subscribe to there's no reason to go out there and be all in the mainstream media what to you know what we were talking about here just a few minutes ago john i'm really
[SPEAKER_08]: I am wondering if, especially something like your book and you hitting the New York Times bestseller list is going to shake them up a little bit, because of the fact at the top, because they're going holy crap, there's this whole obviously big stream of money and big stream of attention and big stream of people out there that they had not a damn clue about. [SPEAKER_13]: Well, that's the hope, isn't it? [SPEAKER_13]: But we'll get there.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, I mean, it's sort of like you, you don't get the mainstream media appearances because the subject matter is deemed too controversial. [SPEAKER_13]: The subject matter is Christians should be nice to people. [SPEAKER_13]: That's sort of the theme of my book. [SPEAKER_08]: Isn't it though? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, that's controversial. [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, no, there you. [SPEAKER_13]: Third rail, ooh, not right now. [SPEAKER_13]: We'll think of the children.
[SPEAKER_13]: And so then the next phase is, yeah, you know, hopefully leads to some other bookings, but if it doesn't, it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_13]: You know, I believe in what the book says. [SPEAKER_13]: I wrote a book that is both for believers and atheists.
[SPEAKER_13]: And some people have a hard time wrapping their mind around that, but both believers and atheists are going to have to deal with these right-wing Christian funds and Christian nationalist frauds who are trying to impose their very narrow
[SPEAKER_13]: Let me point out, Jesus free right wing version of Christianity into our schools, into our airways into our government and it's going to take a lot of atheists and a lot of believers banding together to meet back the fake Christians because that's what it's always taken from slavery to civil rights to homophobia. [SPEAKER_13]: It's always been the progressive and moderate Christians, and they're non-Christian allies who have to band together to beat that.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's the whole history of Christian activism. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, from abolition movement. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, Frederick Douglass and the Quakers and Harriet Tubman from... [SPEAKER_13]: the crusades and St. [SPEAKER_13]: Francis opposing war from the doctrine of discovery and you know the history of Christian moral activism and it's always manifested itself in resistance to Christian authoritarianism.
[SPEAKER_08]: And you know the Bible story is better than I do John, but literally going back wasn't Jesus like, you know, they're like, you can't have like tax collectors and horrors and Jesus is like, no, everybody. [SPEAKER_08]: No, everybody. [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody. [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody. [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody. [SPEAKER_08]: Everybody. [SPEAKER_13]: That's the difference, right? [SPEAKER_13]: Like the Jesus of the Bible and again, atheist friends.
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not asking anybody to believe. [SPEAKER_13]: Don't have to. [SPEAKER_13]: Don't have to. [SPEAKER_13]: Don't ask that with this book is about literalism is irrelevant to the struggle for our nation, right? [SPEAKER_13]: And when I say God, I don't necessarily mean an old man with a big eff off beard and the sky is growing down lightning bolts. [SPEAKER_13]: As you defy him, if you've been in the room is whatever, but in the context of this one.
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, it's going to take these kind of alliances and, and, and, you know, atheists and believers both care about health care, atheists and believers both think that Medicare should cover vision hearing and dental, atheists and believers would like to see Democrats get off their collective asses and make some noise about a president who has made billions of dollars off the office and violation of the Constitution's emoluments clause,
[SPEAKER_13]: they could have impeached this slug, one minute into his inaugural address. [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: Yep. [SPEAKER_08]: I think atheists and believers also believe that in general Democrats should get off their ass.
[SPEAKER_08]: And that's another reason I've been kind of cheered about [SPEAKER_08]: the way that a democratic leadership actually kind of handled this whole Jimmy Kimmel thing how they came out I mean we we have the story it's in the news on tap today they weren't kidding around they it was I think like 10 30 11 o'clock this morning I saw the top congressional Democrats called for FCC chair Brendan Carter resigned saying that the Jimmy Kimmel suspension was a corrupt abuse of
[SPEAKER_08]: It wasn't it was I think maybe noon when I heard that Robert Garcia the top Democrat on the oversight committee is going to be launching his own investigation of the Trump administration ABC and Sinclair and next star and then he went on I think was NBC now or maybe MSNBC one of those and he said on on both of these he said he wants to know whether there was coordination between them
[SPEAKER_13]: Rico type stuff is what Rebecca mentioned earlier we're talking with her about that's the brave stuff is easy to beat up on front for this And it's easy to say this is government censorship, but it's more dangerous We're getting off their goddamn asses and doing something hello It's a long enough, but did anybody criticize Disney or are they too afraid of an alienating those donors?
[SPEAKER_13]: I don't know if any Democrats, any Democrats, second guests, Disney's choice in doing this. [SPEAKER_13]: Look at me. [SPEAKER_05]: Not that I know. [SPEAKER_13]: The FCC, I mean, we've reached the, the, the, the, the canceling comedians by government decree as a bribe stage, the young American fascism. [SPEAKER_13]: It's exciting to see. [SPEAKER_13]: They can't find the authority to regulate corporate monopolies, but they will leap to protect Donald Trump's fragile self-esteem.
[SPEAKER_13]: Now, the thing about the rented car you pointed out, like this guy is so serviled to Trump, he makes Giuliani look like a free finger, goes on Benny Johnson's little Aryan clown show in threatened Disney's broadcast license. [SPEAKER_13]: He didn't do something about Kimmel, right? [SPEAKER_13]: And he did do something. [SPEAKER_13]: So they, again, this is like the hall monitor, [SPEAKER_13]: telling you your joke violates the fire code.
[SPEAKER_13]: Okay. [SPEAKER_13]: The FCC has zero with authority over what a late night TV host can say. [SPEAKER_13]: The first amendment is there. [SPEAKER_13]: So presidents can't toss comics off the air for hurting their feelings. [SPEAKER_13]: Right. [SPEAKER_13]: So they went around it. [SPEAKER_13]: It sort of likes the casting censorship or censorship by a coercion. [SPEAKER_08]: No, I like that. [SPEAKER_08]: It's the cast.
[SPEAKER_08]: Stochastic censorship may may be a little bit hard to say after a few drunks, but it's a self-sensorship because then next star says we're going to pull [SPEAKER_13]: So Disney says, that's outrageous, we'll pull it off every station, right? [SPEAKER_13]: Now Disney screwed up, Disney's going to be to go, Kimmel's going to get back on the air, the backlash for this is going to be terrible. [SPEAKER_13]: Kimmel will get back on the air.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of Republicans are thrilled to see more Americans losing their jobs, but the backlash against this is going to be terrible and Disney can't afford to have all the hit people canceling Disney plus this month. [SPEAKER_13]: And I've already had a lot of people tell me they're done with who Lou and Disney plus over this. [SPEAKER_13]: Yep. [SPEAKER_13]: The smart play for Disney would have been to say, okay, next start, go ahead, take him a lot of the year.
[SPEAKER_13]: Well, we're going to do is we're going to provide the Kimmel Show on our streaming services to all affected subscribers. [SPEAKER_13]: to next star in all those regions. [SPEAKER_13]: We're going to make sure you still get the programming. [SPEAKER_13]: And ABC could have played a first amendment hero role as a major corporation while behind the scenes, negotiating with next star because this whole thing is going to be blown over within two weeks. [SPEAKER_12]: Right.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, the shooter was a white kid from a white state at the White University Republican family, MAGA family surrounded by guns, whether he's MAGA or not. [SPEAKER_13]: Doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_13]: Like, it doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_13]: This thing will blow over because of that. [SPEAKER_13]: Disney could have been negotiating behind the scenes to make all this right and made themselves look like the free speech heroes instead.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Especially in life. [SPEAKER_08]: Especially in life. [SPEAKER_08]: It was Trump before all. [SPEAKER_08]: The fights they've had with him before. [SPEAKER_13]: This was an outchance for them to come out and yeah. [SPEAKER_13]: So now Disney looks like the enemy of free speech and nobody's talking about next star. [SPEAKER_13]: Disney played this so stupidly. [SPEAKER_13]: Kimmelton called for violence. [SPEAKER_13]: Kimmelton, he did not.
[SPEAKER_13]: He didn't say that the election was stolen. [SPEAKER_13]: He didn't tell people to inject disinfectant. [SPEAKER_13]: And he didn't suggest that we should use the knives, which is the same murder, homeless Americans, including 35,000 veterans. [SPEAKER_13]: You know, Brian Kilney did last week, over with our Fox and friends. [SPEAKER_15]: And there were two homeless encampments in Minnesota that were just shot at.
[SPEAKER_08]: You folks who are listening right now on AM 950 you guys know we're talking about 13 people injured they haven't yet tied that to it or at least that the reports aren't out there but if the reports can tie the shooters from those incidents to Brian Kilmead [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, on a stats violent rhetoric, yeah, you think he's going to think he's going to be able to keep his job at Fox at that. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I do. [SPEAKER_13]: I do. [SPEAKER_13]: I do.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yes. [SPEAKER_13]: I do. [SPEAKER_13]: I do. [SPEAKER_08]: I do. [SPEAKER_08]: I did. [SPEAKER_13]: He reads in the Donald Trump could eat a baby and not lose his base. [SPEAKER_08]: Right, because they don't have any. [SPEAKER_13]: They don't have any jokes about Charlie Kirk's. [SPEAKER_08]: Not at all. [SPEAKER_13]: Right. [SPEAKER_13]: They jokes about Donald Trump's disgusting lack of sympathy over the murder, right?
[SPEAKER_13]: Right. [SPEAKER_13]: So Kim will get suspended for mocking Donald Trump's lack of sympathy. [SPEAKER_13]: While a Fox New Zanker can openly fantasize about murdering a homeless veterans, and he's still casting his paychecks. [SPEAKER_13]: This is not a double standard. [SPEAKER_13]: This is a single standard. [SPEAKER_13]: If you worship Trump, you can say anything even at genocide fantasies. [SPEAKER_13]: If you mock Trump or tell the truth about him, [SPEAKER_13]: You're done.
[SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: No, that's, that, that sounds good. [SPEAKER_08]: Caronati. [SPEAKER_13]: Caronati, a brilliant black columnist of the post. [SPEAKER_13]: She got four. [SPEAKER_13]: Yes. [SPEAKER_13]: Caronati, a brilliant black columnist of the post. [SPEAKER_13]: She got four. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_13]: Caronati, a brilliant black columnist of the post.
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[SPEAKER_13]: He's like, Oh, let's just kill him and Fox is like, Oh, Brian, you should pitch genocide over pancakes. [SPEAKER_13]: Let's make a segment about this after weather right before the pet adoption segment. [SPEAKER_13]: Let's do this. [SPEAKER_15]: What bothered me about that, that brain healed me thing was the two couch tumors that were sitting next to him. [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, didn't [SPEAKER_13]: Bad and I what you expect intelligence and decency if fired for that over there.
[SPEAKER_13]: Yeah, what guy advocating murder promotion black woman pointing out racism termination. [SPEAKER_13]: It's like the Jim Crow HR department. [SPEAKER_08]: True. [SPEAKER_08]: True. [SPEAKER_08]: By the way, you should get Karen on your serious exam show. [SPEAKER_08]: She is. [SPEAKER_08]: She's great. [SPEAKER_08]: She's great. [SPEAKER_08]: And she has all kinds of fun stories that she would be really.
[SPEAKER_08]: Really, no. [SPEAKER_13]: Yes. [SPEAKER_13]: But look, these people who want civil war, who scream about we need more guns, who push the racist, great replacement theory and who laughed at George Floyd's murder and who mocked Nancy Pelosi's elderly husband getting his head basting with a hammer, these people who were cheering when cops were being beaten on the Capitol steps for a lie. [SPEAKER_13]: These people want us to tone down our rhetoric.
[SPEAKER_15]: Oh, even Pam Bondi with the cops that were shot, she goes, oh, violence against a police or our never tolerated. [SPEAKER_15]: I'm like, hi, can you just talk to your boss? [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_13]: And let me look at Officer Rose who was murdered outside the CDC. [SPEAKER_13]: by a Trump. [SPEAKER_13]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_13]: Who believed RFK's lines about that, too? [SPEAKER_15]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_13]: I who believed RFK came armed to kill CDC people, an African-American cop gave his life protecting the CDC, and the president of the United States has not mentioned it. [SPEAKER_15]: Your Lord Sags? [SPEAKER_13]: One conservative person who knows that a black cop gave his life against the Trump supporter. [SPEAKER_13]: This month. [SPEAKER_08]: No, they get in right-wing media. [SPEAKER_08]: They live in their own world, free of facts, and also generally free of ethics.
[SPEAKER_08]: I am cheered, though, constantly by all of the good people standing up in Chicago, by the way. [SPEAKER_08]: This one's also in our news on tap. [SPEAKER_08]: In the first round of this, the ice invasion of Chicago, they only really had 30 arrests.
[SPEAKER_13]: People are standing up all over the place you know what the lawns look great Can I just say these national guard guys they got a gift with like sod and moss They're so amazing right looking for landscaping vote for a racist tool sent troops to a majority black cities because Boy, they will take those troops and and we're paying for these guys to do quality yard work. [SPEAKER_13]: By the way, how much do you love there?
[SPEAKER_13]: They're guarding DC in Chicago [SPEAKER_13]: or DC and LA in camouflage to blend in with the architecture and then they're wearing the orange worker vest on top of the camouflage. [SPEAKER_13]: There's all the metaphor you need for this event. [SPEAKER_13]: They're blending in with bright orange reflective gear. [SPEAKER_13]: That's the mission.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, if they're used to being around Trump, and of course, you know, if you're wearing orange and being around Donald, you probably do you will blend in at that point. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, but I'm also glad, um, uh, Mammood Khalil, um, there was a pro-Trunk judge in Louisiana who says he should be deported, but they are fighting that because they say, sorry, federal case says, no, we have these things called laws, and you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_08]: So far, yeah, so far, but but that's just it. [SPEAKER_08]: You have Democrats, you have a lot of people who are, [SPEAKER_08]: I do think the Democratic leadership is starting to get the fact that it's not just a a poll-tested thing. [SPEAKER_08]: What Democrats and independents who vote with Democrats and non-Trump Republicans who voted with Democrats because they sure as hell don't want to vote for Trump people right now.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're saying, look, if you stand up and fight, if you do what they've done in Chicago, if you do what they didn't know, if you do what they've done to some degree in DC, if you stand up and fight these fascists, [SPEAKER_08]: You win, the schools that fight, the law firms that fight. [SPEAKER_08]: If you stand up and punch these bullies back in the nose, I'm not saying go after him. [SPEAKER_08]: That's aggression.
[SPEAKER_08]: But be assertive and say, no, we have the law, the laws on our side, and FU, if you can't take a joke. [SPEAKER_12]: I agree. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and I think the Democratic leadership is finally going crap. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what they want for us. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, there's a whole lot of them. [SPEAKER_08]: In fact, there's a majority of them. [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, we could run out in front of them and say that we're leading.
[SPEAKER_08]: if that's what it takes for them to finally get out their asses and lead i'm thrilled that they're doing it i'm just i'm like oh my god thank you thank you thank you let's see right we'll see yeah we will see uh we've got one more round here john we got last call can you hang around for one more round with us oh sure i'm just watching cash but tell on real housewives of marilago [SPEAKER_08]: I watched I watched him get his ass kicked in both the Senate and the House this week.
[SPEAKER_08]: That was It was that was sweet. [SPEAKER_08]: That's that's that's that's that's that's some political porn You can go back and watch it again again again and it has nothing to do with Donald Trump Well, yeah, okay, there's that Jody you're right. [SPEAKER_05]: What's again? [SPEAKER_08]: Jody is right Look one more round.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Did you see him in the Fox out the slack judge? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we're we put that in the collage today and then he's on tap because oh my god. [SPEAKER_13]: Now town Flabby. [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_13]: Make up again. [SPEAKER_13]: It's fantastic. [SPEAKER_13]: I know drag queens in the village who were less manic up. [SPEAKER_13]: I got to say, I looked at that. [SPEAKER_13]: I thought, well, he looks really healthy because he, he just ate Boris Johnson.
[SPEAKER_13]: If you look at the photo, that's how it looks. [SPEAKER_08]: So the other thing was, he was, I mean, his speech was at Windsor Castle. [SPEAKER_08]: It was, it was just absolute quintessential grandpa rambling and full of stutters and full [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm sitting there going, where's Jake Tapper? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, Captain Tapper Tapper. [SPEAKER_13]: Can you stop being cynical and just say it's worth it for how much it humiliated Melania?
[SPEAKER_13]: Because at this point, I'll take what I can get. [SPEAKER_08]: That looks on her face. [SPEAKER_08]: The look on her face in that, I think it's an AP or a Warriors photo, where he's in his talks with this Slack jaw.
[SPEAKER_08]: And she's in that yellow joint with the purple sash and the look on her face is, [SPEAKER_13]: if it was not for the prenaught by she looks like a woman who really believed she can afford a gated community and hell you know she's pretty sure she'll be segregated from all the rabble when she goes to lucid rooms here you're not wrong I can't wait to see her there [SPEAKER_15]: No, I'll be down with you. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you know, I mean, all the good people will be.
[SPEAKER_08]: But I just, yeah, I was amazed at that. [SPEAKER_08]: And then he got some, some deal in meanwhile, he ignored the fact that let's see the UN has now called what Netanyahu is doing genocide. [SPEAKER_08]: Senator Bernie Sanders publicly acknowledged and has a piece in the nation magazine, acknowledging that what Netanyahu is doing to the Palestinians is genocide. [SPEAKER_08]: of U.S.
[SPEAKER_13]: to be like like like I missed the international set over a year ago, yeah, but yeah, at least it's making is real much safer because Netanyahu cares so much about his really people and not about keeping himself out of jail, right, this is what my books about when you put extreme conservative religious people in charge, they will always whether it's Netanyahu, whether it's Hamas or whether it's the fundamentalists over here, they will always do the opposite of what their holy books command.
[SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not the Christianity or the Judaism or the Islam. [SPEAKER_08]: It happens to be the conservatism. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's not even because of the Islamism. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_13]: The wisdom of all the Hinduism, John. [SPEAKER_13]: I assume Scientology is well, but they're young yet. [SPEAKER_13]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_13]: But yeah. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, the more extreme, I go these are this in the book.
[SPEAKER_13]: The more to the right, your religion is. [SPEAKER_13]: The more conservative it is, the more women are always second-class citizens. [SPEAKER_13]: Always Violence is okay. [SPEAKER_13]: If my side does it more conservative religion it got the atheist God gives me a path on the right same thing Yeah, God gives me a pass because I'm on God's side.
[SPEAKER_13]: So violence is okay if my side does it [SPEAKER_13]: The more conservative your religion is, the sex hangups, if women are gay men are enjoying sex and not just for procreation, you'll get that shame. [SPEAKER_13]: The more conservative your religion is, the more there's always a focus on punishment instead of healing. [SPEAKER_13]: And the more conservative your religion is, the more it will use a persecution narrative to justify being mean to people now.
[SPEAKER_13]: If your church is not telling you to love your enemies, but is telling you who your enemies are. [SPEAKER_13]: You're not in a damn church and that's how Donald Trump got these evangelicals to go for him. [SPEAKER_13]: He didn't promise to do anything Jesus commands. [SPEAKER_13]: He promised to put them first. [SPEAKER_13]: He said, you've been under siege for so long and I'm here to lift you up. [SPEAKER_13]: That's the opposite of what Jesus says.
[SPEAKER_13]: Jesus is not easy to follow me. [SPEAKER_13]: You're going to take up a cross and carry it every day. [SPEAKER_13]: Jesus says the movements about humility, not total right-wing domination of your neighborhood school board. [SPEAKER_13]: These guys don't read the Bible, and people don't need to believe in the Bible as absolute literal fact to take their camouflage away. [SPEAKER_13]: They're trying to use a religion.
[SPEAKER_13]: They don't follow, they don't believe in it, they weaponize chapters, they don't believe in our follow to hurt my narratives, Jesus commands them to love. [SPEAKER_13]: And the media and the Democrats are too terrified to ask these people what their holy books actually say, so it's going to have to be us who strip away their camouflage.
[SPEAKER_13]: Amen. [SPEAKER_13]: Because they have no right to claim any kind of piety when they're legislating against every they can Jesus actually talked about in the beautiful thing is, you don't need to believe in Jesus to call them out, and you'll be surprised at how good it feels. [SPEAKER_13]: better than cardio, it's good for your heart rate, good for your skin, you've got your sales. [SPEAKER_08]: Speaking of cardio, I have to note this.
[SPEAKER_08]: This is in the entertainment and more section at the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_08]: Did you guys see U.S. [SPEAKER_08]: tracks are Sidney McLaughlin the Roan. [SPEAKER_08]: Cracks of 48 seconds. [SPEAKER_08]: in the 400 in the world's track meet. [SPEAKER_08]: You know what that is? [SPEAKER_08]: That is literally a quarter of a mile in under 48 seconds. [SPEAKER_08]: That is insanely fast. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I can't even tell you how fat that's.
[SPEAKER_13]: I cry 43 seconds with my girlfriend on prom night in high school. [SPEAKER_13]: So I mean, there you go. [SPEAKER_08]: So I just yeah, that's that that is she's she's definitely got the cardio and a speaking great athletes WMDA playoffs still going on man that if you guys haven't been catching any of that I don't know if either of you guys catch any of the clips online or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_08]: I know John you're usually working at series XM and the in the evenings and Joe to you and I are here. [SPEAKER_08]: You might be in the background of the bar, but [SPEAKER_08]: It's been it's I've been catching some clips and man. [SPEAKER_08]: It is it's it's been it's been pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's it's great to see women kicking ass and athletics and it's great to see people paying money to see it to be successful that way and actually you know go oh my god we can make yes you can make money by selling women sports and maybe some day the women athletes can make money too. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah hopefully. [SPEAKER_13]: Yeah that's that's one of the day they won't need second and third jobs for the off season. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's that's one thing we definitely got to get maybe maybe like it's more helpful from Cardi B. By the way, she is pregnant again. [SPEAKER_08]: She is expecting maybe with her new boyfriend. [SPEAKER_08]: Cardi is one of those people that honestly, I think she's smarter than a lot of people give her credit for. [SPEAKER_13]: I think she is because in a thousand years from now, half the population will be descended from either Cardi B or Nick Cannon. [SPEAKER_13]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_13]: Oh man, he's a mom dropped the ball and Cardi picked it up with a beat. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh man. [SPEAKER_08]: Man, but at least at least they aren't going to be descended from RFK Junior. [SPEAKER_08]: God, that's stuff. [SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen, I don't know if you guys had seen the update on the, He's like the Kennedy curse hanging itself in a motel six. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly what that is.
[SPEAKER_13]: The Kennedy's got a thousand years of good luck after this because he's like,
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I don't even I don't even know if the the the CDC meeting today is going to matter all that much because you got this this whole Western states alliance california and and there I'll go on you know what screw it we're dealing with the insurance companies and we're just going to go around it and whatever whatever RFK does at him you've got more of an alliance now that is growing I'm sure they're probably going to get formalized with the the northeast states I know Governor walls is doing some stuff in the Midwest it's like
[SPEAKER_13]: You know, they're going screw this guy because he's the perfect, he's the perfect guy to be in charge of health for this administration. [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I can't hear. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, you know, next to having the pro wrestling lady in charge of education. [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, my God, it's just beautiful. [SPEAKER_13]: It's like, it's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_13]: But RFK, who has as much health experiences as both of my cats, who, when he talks, he, when he talks, he, [SPEAKER_13]: these sounds like Darth Vader's sleep apnea machine and he's coming up there saying we're the sickest country in the world and that's why I had to fire people at the CDC because nothing says healthy workforce like mass layoffs during a measles outbreak and now bird flu is coming Sean every time he's Christians elect Caligula God sends a new plague
[SPEAKER_13]: If they wanted to make America healthy again, they'd be talking about bringing health care to every citizen. [SPEAKER_13]: They're growing 12 million poor and disabled Americans off of health care, every word out of their mouth.
[SPEAKER_08]: We're going to get Charles Gabba, if you remember him from ACA synops, the guy who is one of the best about health care data in the country, we're going to get him here into the bar as well coming up because regardless of what happens with his shutdown,
[SPEAKER_08]: I was saying here was at Monday, Jody, and you and I were talking to you, agreed that I said I thought that Chuck was floating this thing, that he didn't actually think that it was going to go through with the shutdown thing about saying, well, maybe we'll agree to do the temporary ACA extensions knowing that Republicans in the house were going to knock it down and sure enough, you sent me a thing last night. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think it was around 7 or 8 o'clock, Jody, and then I checked this morning. [SPEAKER_08]: And already Republicans had said nope, nope. [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to shut the government down. [SPEAKER_13]: It's like they're going to blame on Democrats either way. [SPEAKER_13]: They're going to blame it on Democrats either way. [SPEAKER_08]: But the ACA extensions are not going to get done. [SPEAKER_08]: And as people are looking, it's it's going to start.
[SPEAKER_08]: In fact, it's already started as people are are looking at their insurance. [SPEAKER_08]: They're helping us from the next year. [SPEAKER_13]: People and that's why they're in person because Donald Trump can't help them in the midterms next year. [SPEAKER_08]: So right no, no, but that's exactly where I was going with this. [SPEAKER_08]: The fact that your Republicans are so screwed.
[SPEAKER_08]: And for once Democrats are standing up and and yes, it's it's going to be bad, but I think Republicans may actually finally have to pay some consequences. [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, no, when you go that far, would you know that? [SPEAKER_13]: What would it mean?
[SPEAKER_13]: Consquinsus losing losing it like the like the Confederacy had to pay consequences Like the next in that consequent like our Ransions run the Iraq war had consequences Real consequences, but yes, it may be like you know what's going to happen You know what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_08]: You know what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_08]: You know what's going to happen. [SPEAKER_08]: You know what's going to happen?
[SPEAKER_13]: Consquinsus our merit garlands going to come and give them a nice long foot massage. [SPEAKER_13]: That's going to be the consequences merit garland is going to mow their lawn for them [SPEAKER_13]: And he's going to make sure check their mail and tidy up around the house. [SPEAKER_08]: So they won't be able to, they'll go from the workout facility on Capitol Hill to workout facility at one of the lobbying organizations down on K Street.
[SPEAKER_13]: That's our FK Junior literally said that the COVID vaccine killed more people than COVID. [SPEAKER_15]: No. [SPEAKER_13]: And then he said that Trump deserves a Nobel Prize for Operation Warp Speed. [SPEAKER_13]: for creating Trump deserves a Nobel Prize for the vaccine. [SPEAKER_13]: The killed people. [SPEAKER_13]: And the vaccine killed more people than COVID. [SPEAKER_13]: So this is an administration that roots for Gargamel and the smurf's at the same time.
[SPEAKER_08]: I was going, correct me if I'm wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: But you add that math up. [SPEAKER_08]: RFK Junior is saying that it's okay to kill people. [SPEAKER_13]: It's almost like they're stupid and counting on their fan base being even more stupid so they can get away with it Almost like that.
[SPEAKER_13]: I mean, I never knew there was such a thing as epic micro penis energy But here we are it is epic micro penis energy That's the thing now don't I'll didn't say that smart people don't like him and it's one of the few things that I grew with him We had to we love that. [SPEAKER_13]: Oh, yeah, which which is a hundred percent but the other kind the other kind of [SPEAKER_13]: So many words, I'm not allowed to say on this show, but the other title, do you have a one?
[SPEAKER_08]: You can say him on your show, though, who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_13]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_13]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_08]: Who do you have to wrap up? [SPEAKER_13]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_13]: I'm usually pretty drunk and medicated until about five minutes before I get on the air. [SPEAKER_13]: And they have no cards. [SPEAKER_13]: So I don't really traffic in those kind of conspiracy theories. [SPEAKER_13]: I've oozed out my show. [SPEAKER_13]: No. [SPEAKER_13]: We are, I'll tell you one thing I'm proud of. [SPEAKER_13]: Apparently, we're the first radio show in America to have a weekly indigenous affair segment. [SPEAKER_13]: I love that. [SPEAKER_13]: You love that.
[SPEAKER_13]: And Julie, for a segment called we're still here. [SPEAKER_13]: You guys should book the two of them together. [SPEAKER_13]: Sometimes I'll blow your mind. [SPEAKER_13]: You wouldn't believe how to indigenous writers and activists talking about, you know, indigenous viewpoints. [SPEAKER_13]: can teach us so much about current events right now. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_13]: We're going to be on our show tonight. [SPEAKER_08]: They're absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_08]: We love them. [SPEAKER_08]: Simon and Julie, you know, honestly, I 100% agree. [SPEAKER_08]: Do you guys have some comments on your show sometime? [SPEAKER_13]: They're great together. [SPEAKER_08]: But let's have absolutely. [SPEAKER_08]: John, thank you so much. [SPEAKER_08]: By the way, if you guys have not yet picked up separation of church and hate that your favorite book seller go out and do it. [SPEAKER_12]: It's in New York Times best seller. [SPEAKER_08]: All right.
[SPEAKER_12]: Come on, Antifa, Army, get organized. [SPEAKER_08]: John, thank you so much. [SPEAKER_08]: We will see you back here next week. [SPEAKER_08]: I hope. [SPEAKER_13]: Thank you if my parole officer wills it. [SPEAKER_13]: Thanks for asking. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Tomorrow, of course, it's Friday. [SPEAKER_08]: That means that we happen to have you know who is on this show. [SPEAKER_08]: We got Karen and Anita of True Blue politics. [SPEAKER_08]: We will have them.
[SPEAKER_08]: We will wrap up the week with you. [SPEAKER_08]: Go home, get some rest. [SPEAKER_08]: Come on back tomorrow night here at the Palm Springs.