Sabotage In Broad Daylight October 2, 2025

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[SPEAKER_08]: So we figured out she goes, well, it's going to be $10,000, which is a lot of [SPEAKER_08]: And we need 50% up front and then 50% once he's done and ready and I said okay, so no problem sign the contract I sent her the 5,000 and she was I've never gotten money and time before for many buddies Yeah, that's that's that that yeah, I'm like that's the contract He doesn't have to get on the plane. [SPEAKER_08]: She goes no, no, no, no He would be sitting on the plane.

[SPEAKER_03]: He isn't it crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: You like to do things like follow laws and you know contract [SPEAKER_03]: kind of a crazy idea, you know, doing the right things in the right way. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I bet you have other crazy ideas like hot fire and wet water and cold ice. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's not weird. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, it's like amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: If you guys have some crazy ideas like, I don't know, cool clothes. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things you can do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Black men cannot get angry. [SPEAKER_03]: They are not allowed to get angry by the stupid ass mainstream media, which God, our media has been failing us so badly, and this Republican shutdown is a perfect example of how badly they are failing all of us right now.

[SPEAKER_08]: there was another guy on hold that I didn't pick up maybe he'll call back tomorrow I hope he kind of does that that was like Chris has no right to talk for black people Yeah, no 100% you know, I completely we were so past that at that point I was like [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I have had issues. [SPEAKER_03]: I have issues with a game Jeffries. [SPEAKER_03]: I have issues with Chuck Schumer. [SPEAKER_03]: I had issues with Barack Obama and Joe Biden, Comble Harris, Hillary Clinton.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have issues with me and I look me in the face every day. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, that doesn't mean that they're not doing well. [SPEAKER_03]: This is something that this, these idiots, somebody decided to try to mob me on social media, which I'm like, fight me. [SPEAKER_03]: I just block and move because that's how that goes. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, folks, it's pretty simple. [SPEAKER_03]: You can disagree with somebody.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look, yesterday, right here, Chris Candy was telling us that one of the things that's important you do is that you keep a window open to some degree, even with some of the MAGA folks. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's literally echoing what Joe Walsh was saying. [SPEAKER_03]: You keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: We also have to keep your rules out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the problem with the media right now is you've got the people who are just pushing whatever the Republicans say or the people who have their brain so open, they aren't understanding that the right wing propaganda machines are doing everything they can to fuel misinformation and disinformation and hatred of your fellow American. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys got to keep your head and swivel, man. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, I had a, he did a discussion with one of my neighbors a few days ago. [SPEAKER_08]: I knew he was a Republican, but I had no idea he was a Trump supporter. [SPEAKER_08]: And he was talking to me about, I, I brought up Kimmyly goes, oh, what he said? [SPEAKER_08]: I said, did you actually listen to what he said? [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I heard about it. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, listen to what he said. [SPEAKER_03]: I had a similar argument with a neighbor of mine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like, did you hear well, but no, no, no, no, no, no, actually need to hear it that my neighbor didn't want to hear it. [SPEAKER_03]: My neighbor didn't hear it and said said, well, you know, there's, there's a cabal in Hollywood. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, no, there, no. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like, well, what I heard on Fox.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, your media is a propaganda media and a lot of the mainstream media out there has been really, really horrible about getting to the facts on this. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, [SPEAKER_03]: We can start actually towards the bottom of the news on tap okay. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got a couple of great guests by the way for those of you who haven't looked and seen it at the news on tap or maybe you are not subscribed to the free news on tap, which you should be at the politics bar.com.

[SPEAKER_03]: We have David Shockets, novelist, short fiction writer, [SPEAKER_08]: wonderful barfly operates the legendary dragonfly nightclub in Hollywood and also happens to be your former co-host he was for years on on the from the bunker podcast i've no David i met him actually at the dragonfly i've known him probably twenty five twenty six years something like that yeah good luck and then somebody else who we've we've both known you know about fifteen twenty or something like that

[SPEAKER_03]: John Figuelsaeng will be back in the bar. [SPEAKER_03]: He's got a gig at in Chicago at Zainis. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about and he's not only a New York Times best set off. [SPEAKER_08]: LA Times, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Whoo-hoo. [SPEAKER_03]: Big congrats, John. [SPEAKER_03]: And congrats to you. [SPEAKER_03]: That's great. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I mean, only that. [SPEAKER_03]: He is now by coastal on his being on that bestseller list.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, I'm very, very happy for him. [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's amazing. [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's great. [SPEAKER_03]: And he did it mostly without the main stream. [SPEAKER_08]: exactly and that's why his publisher is like, how did you do this? [SPEAKER_08]: He's like, you didn't book me on the big shows so I went everywhere else. [SPEAKER_03]: As they said in the last Star Wars, you know, hey, they don't have a Navy, who the hell are these people?

[SPEAKER_03]: They're just people. [SPEAKER_03]: like us the revolutionary war we had very little and we still won that war yeah whether whether or not you know we did not know about bill cost be backed in but i always like the cost be thing when he did the coin flip if you remember the coin flip thing so can you imagine going back in history and saying okay uh the uh revolutionary war [SPEAKER_03]: says, you know, okay, uh, coin task, it's awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Americans, you get it.

[SPEAKER_03]: What do you get to do? [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: The Americans get to wear whatever they want, hide behind rocks and trees and be in any formation while the British have to wear red and march in a straight line. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, my God, just that's the dumbest end. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what happened. [SPEAKER_08]: It's funny. [SPEAKER_08]: We also quoted Bill Cosby today on Bob's show. [SPEAKER_08]: So this is very interesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look, there's look, they're not everybody is right all the time and not everybody is wrong all the time. [SPEAKER_03]: There are good cops and bad cops. [SPEAKER_03]: There are good Republicans still. [SPEAKER_08]: You don't have to be a Democrat. [SPEAKER_08]: You don't have to be a Democrat. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to be a Democrat. [SPEAKER_08]: You don't have to be a Democrat, you don't have to be a Democrat, you can be an independent.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, being independent at this point. [SPEAKER_03]: Although if you notice, David Jolly, at your walls, they became Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, but because they wanted to be in a party that actually fought for something that means something. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so look at the first media thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you go to the fifth round, the media entertainment and more there's new Gallipole US trust in mainstream media is at an all-time low of 28% And a lot of that is because among other things Democrats are no longer trusting in the media because the media is like, but I want that fox audience right [SPEAKER_03]: You are not going to get the Fox audience New York Times. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't give a damn CNN what you think you do. [SPEAKER_03]: They are never going to love you.

[SPEAKER_03]: No matter what you do. [SPEAKER_08]: Also, their audience is not the demographic that sells soap and other things. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I mean, the demographic you want is 18 to 49 for some strange reason. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't have a problem. [SPEAKER_08]: People older.

[SPEAKER_03]: But because of because of the the push and where you're looking at it, it's anywhere from probably 18 to 65 because that makes more that makes more sense because you know people are still right and all of that really these days because of of the the way the economy is you really want to go about like say mid 30s to 65, which is can be really where I don't grab it.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, I mean, people when Golden Girls was first pitched, they're like, nobody's going to watch this show because it's about old ladies by the way, I'm older than everybody but be art. [SPEAKER_03]: I think at this point when it started, I think you and I both are at least a little bit something. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's just seven years older than we've been planning on was when it started.

[SPEAKER_08]: And so, but I watched that show, yeah, I was in college, that was a very funny show. [SPEAKER_03]: Good entertainment and good shows and good information. [SPEAKER_03]: Basically transcends agent demographics and one of the other pieces that we have in the media entertainment section is also that media trust has hit a new low, but one detail gets overlooked at the personal effect.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you read it, it's a good piece from the Hollywood Reporter that basically says, if you find people that you trust and people do find people that they trust. [SPEAKER_03]: individuals, whether it happens to be Jake Tapper, God forbid, or whatever, but they trust it's much like with the government where people say, government is a whole sucks, but my representative is okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: We aim to be one of the sources that you guys trust.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we know that you guys are here in the bar because you trust what we say. [SPEAKER_08]: And if we make a mistake, we will say so. [SPEAKER_03]: We're like, oh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm as long. [SPEAKER_03]: Got that one. [SPEAKER_03]: We thought it would get occasionally. [SPEAKER_03]: We even say Jodie is wrong. [SPEAKER_08]: It's so difficult. [SPEAKER_08]: It's so minuscule. [SPEAKER_03]: Very, very little. [SPEAKER_03]: But look, it's important.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we also acknowledge one of the other things in that section, which is that. [SPEAKER_03]: That could Jane get all passed away. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Age 91. [SPEAKER_03]: That bless her. [SPEAKER_03]: The reason why we work so hard to do the things we do. [SPEAKER_03]: She, she outlined it in less than a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: And I got this on the DVR here. [SPEAKER_00]: If we lose hope, we're doomed.

[SPEAKER_00]: The reason I keep going age 90 is because if we lose hope, then we become a pathetic. [SPEAKER_00]: We do nothing. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to bring children into a world where from the very beginning they believe everything's hopeless. [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: We must not do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe we still have a window of time and it's not only me when if we get together, if we roll our past sleeves and take action each of us doing what we feel is important. [SPEAKER_00]: then that is hope for the future of the planet. [SPEAKER_00]: If we lose hope, the reason I keep going [SPEAKER_08]: She was absolutely named. [SPEAKER_08]: Her name was good all.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you know, and she said, Dana Goldberg mentioned it instead of Chris today that when she got on the cover of National Geographic, a bunch of male scientists were like, oh, she only got on there because she has nice legs. [SPEAKER_08]: And then she said, well, if that's what got me this and got me the sponsorship to do what I want to do, fine. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, you use the tools you have to do all the good you can in the time you have.

[SPEAKER_08]: She was beautiful inside and out. [SPEAKER_08]: And yeah, you know, she's going to be missed. [SPEAKER_08]: And she did a lot of good work, so did Fossey. [SPEAKER_08]: Um, and so it's just, it's sad that we've lost somebody that we don't have to take out a context to sound good. [SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_03]: Jody is right. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, look, there are reasons we do this. [SPEAKER_03]: This is why we, we try to help you guys out.

[SPEAKER_03]: We try to help you out and have fun. [SPEAKER_03]: And we had somebody who knows a lot about fun. [SPEAKER_03]: Mr. David Shock at Jody's former podcast partner on the From the Bunker podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: He's coming into the bar here from his bar. [SPEAKER_03]: So we will have to talk to him about some entertainment, some news, and more. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: Best thing you can do fresh enough. [SPEAKER_03]: You drink now.

[SPEAKER_03]: Check out the store at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: Get yourself some good duds and then look. [SPEAKER_03]: Come back. [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be Jody and me and David and you. [SPEAKER_03]: Here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_10]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a first day night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: You got your Johnny Hamilton.

[SPEAKER_03]: You got your me Sean Smith Pierce and you got your one and only David shock it. [SPEAKER_03]: He is here. [SPEAKER_03]: He's here from his bar. [SPEAKER_03]: So he's just a part of bar. [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of hanging out with all the cool people. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, David, Jody's former co-host from the bunker. [SPEAKER_03]: David, how you doing man? [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's me. [SPEAKER_07]: How I'm doing? [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not trying to be difficult.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I've checked out of that question. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know how everyone's doing. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't ask. [SPEAKER_07]: It's perpetually four or five. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I understand right now being horrified. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, that's given, given the shutdown, giving rust vauts. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_07]: I. These guys are like cartoon villains. [SPEAKER_07]: They are.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm home and you look at rust vaut. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like a marble movie. [SPEAKER_07]: These would be the guys. [SPEAKER_07]: or deconstructing the planks of the universe. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've all heard that Stephen Miller, nobody like Stephen Miller is far back as there are records.

[SPEAKER_03]: But now there's a Utah Congressman, I can't remember who it is, who said that Russ Vott has basically had a Jones to destroy the U.S. [SPEAKER_03]: government since before he hit puberty. [SPEAKER_03]: These guys have been A-holes, their whole lives. [SPEAKER_03]: They've been wanting to wage war on the U.S. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what he did because I was just thinking about like, it's at that point in my life.

[SPEAKER_07]: He was thinking about like, it's probably the administrative state. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently yes. [SPEAKER_03]: This is apparently rust spot was, uh, he's thought about this. [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing that blows my mind is that he still hasn't your problem. [SPEAKER_07]: He was probably at home. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, he didn't write. [SPEAKER_07]: He did also write part of project 2025. [SPEAKER_08]: And also, he's only 49, David.

[SPEAKER_08]: He's only 49. [SPEAKER_08]: I know his face is like mine. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, he's only 49. [SPEAKER_07]: What? [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: He looks like he's 65. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a rough 49. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a rough 49. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a rough 49. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, if you notice Steven Miller, also, much younger, yes, he's in his 30s. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Hate ages you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hate ages you really, really badly. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I can't imagine these guys actually laugh at that. [SPEAKER_07]: But the hate Miller thing is what has me kind of stun. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that's money. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm finding out women are as bad as men. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Wow, there are some of them. [SPEAKER_07]: You didn't know that before.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, women, we can't be, I usually get in the benefit, like for instance, I've been in the bar, I was in the bar business for a long time, and I usually always had female bartenders. [SPEAKER_07]: And so, it was like, it's not like they don't steal, they just steal less, whatever, whatever bad things going on, women just do less of that testosterone to make them extra horrible. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And also, they tend to do it a little bit smarter.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've joked with Jodie about this before, should I tell David, did the joke about brains? [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just going to say, yes, you should. [SPEAKER_03]: I have a story, I've told this before, but you know, I have a story, so I say that men have five brains and women only have one. [SPEAKER_03]: Women have one brain between all women, but men have five brains and men are still dumber than women. [SPEAKER_03]: and the way it works is like this.

[SPEAKER_03]: So men have five brains. [SPEAKER_03]: They have one, you know, above their waist, you know, at the top of their head and one below their waist. [SPEAKER_03]: And the one below their waist pretty much controls the other three. [SPEAKER_03]: The other three, of course, is, you know, one on each hand and one on your mouth. [SPEAKER_03]: Because guys are like, oh, I didn't say that. [SPEAKER_03]: It was my mouth.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, okay, that you have a brain there and their hands are doing their own things. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's basically, you know, every guy, it's the equivalent of a group of five guys. [SPEAKER_03]: And one of them goes, hey, look what's over there. [SPEAKER_03]: And the other goes, hey, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And the one on top goes, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a bad idea. [SPEAKER_12]: That was a bad idea.

[SPEAKER_03]: right so men constantly get in trouble because it's always for on one with the smart brain going you should do this and the other four like yeah you suck then you look at women and the way you know that all women have only one brain is the bathroom thing so women often go to the bathroom in groups [SPEAKER_03]: And it'll be like a group of a dozen women and 12 women go in and six women come out.

[SPEAKER_03]: You could go into the bathroom with a sledgehammer and try to beat it down. [SPEAKER_03]: You will not find the other six. [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason is they've gone off to the great mother brain. [SPEAKER_03]: And the way that you know this is that as a guy and guys do this. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter whether you're cis by a gay and doesn't matter. [SPEAKER_07]: Guys do this well, 47 other descriptors that keep going.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's true, true, but every guy, every guy, regardless, does this. [SPEAKER_03]: So the women in your life, whether they're your significant other, your sister, your mother, your grandma, your auntie, whatever says, you are not supposed to do X, whatever X is. [SPEAKER_03]: And guys, you know, we go to the moon.

[SPEAKER_03]: There is nobody around, we think, we looked at the left, we looked at the right, we're like, yeah, I'm here, and I can do X. [SPEAKER_03]: The minute you hit that door, the minute you see, the most important women in your life, and believe I cannot believe you did X. And how did you know this? [SPEAKER_03]: How did they know? [SPEAKER_03]: Because the universe is a woman, Earth is a woman, and they all converse at the mother brain.

[SPEAKER_03]: So men have five brains, women have one, and yet women are smarter than men. [SPEAKER_07]: We're like the planet on Avatar. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna just steal that to a theory in about 20 seconds. [SPEAKER_07]: Remember the book, wonderful, ours, women are from Venus. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that was a horrible book. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be that as a may, or should have had a different title.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that title should have been, women or psychos and men are able to, because when you bring it down to our most reductive cells, [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're real, we can be adults, but the advantage women have, we're always the exact same angle. [SPEAKER_07]: So if you can basically speak about a plan to deal with our avalmas, we can't take the whole board of the correct jail. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, very correct sir.

[SPEAKER_07]: But women, I like to say, I understand women as much as any human being can possibly understand women, which is to say, [SPEAKER_07]: Not law. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely inscrutable, unfigurable, forget it. [SPEAKER_03]: But I love women, and I think they are so much smarter than men. [SPEAKER_03]: And... And I told him to say that. [SPEAKER_07]: I've got a report. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, when I said, what did I do? [SPEAKER_07]: You say, you know what you did.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, oh, God. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a really happening. [SPEAKER_03]: But they know what you did. [SPEAKER_03]: Even if you don't know what you did, they know what you did. [SPEAKER_08]: And you should know what you did. [SPEAKER_07]: It was wrong still burning or is it not burning? [SPEAKER_08]: It's definitely on fire. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, look, the shutdown is happening. [SPEAKER_03]: But the shutdown is it's stupid.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it's stupid because Republicans are being extremely dumb about the whole thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Much like we got into this before you came into the budget. [SPEAKER_07]: Somehow it's still better than ours. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, nobody said that we put our best people on camera on microphones, you know, we put some of our best people in writing, which as a writer, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: But you know, the bigger thing is this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's partially about health care, but it's actually more about the fact that we can't trust Republicans right for anything We absolutely cannot trust them Speaking of great women who are smart and who absolutely understand this Rep crocket she was on CNN the other night she actually had this here. [SPEAKER_03]: I got this on the DVR.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let me play this for you [SPEAKER_01]: So what assurances do we have if we entered into an agreement with these Republicans that they wouldn't go back on their word and just say, oh yeah, we'll sign off on a resurgence package. [SPEAKER_01]: Everything that the Democrats fought for such as health care assurances around the Affordable Care Act, yeah, we'll make sure that that holds. [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have any assurances. [SPEAKER_03]: Bingo. [SPEAKER_01]: Bingo.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's right. [SPEAKER_03]: Reptitive is right exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't have any assurances. [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's what this whole thing is. [SPEAKER_07]: How is the peril that we're facing right? [SPEAKER_07]: I remember a lot of the last shutdown and Schumer took a lot of shot over the way you handled it. [SPEAKER_07]: He's got to be gone. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not a big fan of Jeffrey's either. [SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't seem like the kind of guy ready to meet the moment.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: He laid it out in a way in terms of office management and budget. [SPEAKER_07]: The type of powers they would have that things that they're able to do, and I've been gradually said he might be right. [SPEAKER_07]: What's different this time? [SPEAKER_07]: What OMB power do they not have this time that we feared last time? [SPEAKER_07]: And the chair recognizes Joe. [SPEAKER_08]: That's thank you, gentlemen.

[SPEAKER_08]: So basically the difference is last time, Chuck Schumer, [SPEAKER_08]: didn't want people to work without pay that he didn't want people to be furloughed and I understand that because he's an old school Democrat. [SPEAKER_08]: What happened was once they agreed to the original CR continuing resolution, um, [SPEAKER_08]: But then all of a sudden the resisions came from OMB and they can do what to every time. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Every time they do an UCR or a budget, you basically get to. [SPEAKER_08]: You get to to say, oh, I'm going to take this money back. [SPEAKER_08]: So they did that after agreeing to whatever the CR had. [SPEAKER_08]: So the Democrats said, OK, we'll agree to this. [SPEAKER_08]: And then what the Democrats wanted was pulled out of that was pulled out of the money and everything. [SPEAKER_08]: So what happened this time Chuck Schumer read the room?

[SPEAKER_08]: I came, the house always voted against it. [SPEAKER_08]: So they were always doing the right thing. [SPEAKER_08]: It was up to the Senate. [SPEAKER_08]: And so what happened this time is Chuck Schumer said, well, huh, they're still gonna rescind, they're still gonna do this. [SPEAKER_08]: So whether or not we agree with them because they're not negotiating in good faith. [SPEAKER_08]: And so they're gonna do it anyway. [SPEAKER_08]: So why should we sign on to it?

[SPEAKER_08]: And I agree with that, it sucks that, [SPEAKER_08]: TSA agents and others are going to work without pay right now because they're essential. [SPEAKER_08]: But I agree with with him finally having a backbone to do this because they're just going to do it no matter what. [SPEAKER_08]: What the republicans. [SPEAKER_07]: How much of this is him concerned about AOC primary and the other thing is is.

[SPEAKER_08]: If the Republicans really want this bill, if they really really want to pass this bill, all they have to do is vote, they have 53 votes through Republicans in the Senate, vote for just this bill we eliminate the filibuster, just for this. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, we've got a piece that's in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: It's in that first action under the Republican shutdown from Bill Share over Washington Monthly.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he goes through and says, look, the Republicans could end the government shutdown today point in time because they have 53 votes in the Senate and they have the majority of votes in the House. [SPEAKER_03]: They could change the rules for this one vote and pass their quote unquote clean CR. [SPEAKER_03]: The problem isn't the CR. [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is that there are a bunch of untrustworthy welchers.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Democrats have not pushed that enough, and when they have the mainstream media berries it, they leave those cuts out of it, and they always put out the cuts that say, oh, it's about healthcare, because the mainstream media has decided that the narrative is healthcare. [SPEAKER_03]: The narrative is healthcare, but that's the second of three levels of asking. [SPEAKER_03]: The first level of asking is if we make a deal with you, will you stick to it?

[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of the Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: I have seen them go out there. [SPEAKER_03]: Chris Manholen has done it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, humor did it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Jeffries did it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, AOC has done it and Warren has done it. [SPEAKER_03]: But the media will inevitably, the clips that they put out there. [SPEAKER_03]: They focus on the healthcare. [SPEAKER_03]: And they don't focus on the other part of it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the first ask is no decisions, no going back on the deal. [SPEAKER_03]: The second part is you need to tackle the ACA subsidies, the ACA subsidies, and at the end of the year people are getting their health care notices now, literally started a couple days ago with not last week about their premiums going up.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why Republicans, or that's why Democrats want that and Republicans don't, because Republicans like, oh, we can put that off till the end of the year. [SPEAKER_03]: the third part is pulling back the Medicare and Medicaid cuts that Republicans ran through in the big ugly bill. [SPEAKER_03]: Those are the three levels of asks. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that complicated, but mainstream media goes, that's too difficult. [SPEAKER_03]: We just want keywords.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so health care, that's what we decided it's on. [SPEAKER_07]: Joe, do you track me into a conversation with somebody that actually does his homework? [SPEAKER_08]: I know, what's wrong with me? [SPEAKER_07]: When did that start? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I used to be Randy Rhodes producer. [SPEAKER_03]: So you know, you kind of have to be required to do there for your homework or you don't survive that.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I love her with Randy, but you know, you have traditionally incredibly opinionated and under-informed, which is incredible combination. [SPEAKER_07]: You're literally smart. [SPEAKER_07]: I got you matches the moment. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what you're saying is you're on the 97% child

[SPEAKER_03]: percent below you, if you walk on the street and said in terms of just late of jargon, what does it see are right right and that's why and that's why that's why we have the news like that's why we educate folks absolutely because everybody here in the bar, everybody here wants to have a good discussion and everybody wants to be informed and and think about these things if you go to any bar, your bar included and people are talking about the stuff that's going on how to shut down effects and these kinds of things if you put it in terms that people in the bar know,

[SPEAKER_03]: People are like, yeah, and this is the whole, this is the basis of our entire system of government here in the United States that if you get people sufficiently informed, they don't have to know every damn thing, but they have to be sufficiently informed, and they have to be sufficiently educated. [SPEAKER_03]: Again, they don't have to know every damn thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: Generally, that's why they've been tearing apart, you know, our information sources or information structures are actually. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: David is right. [SPEAKER_07]: David made me think of something quickly in Kamala and Kamala's speech when she referred him as a tyrant.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, and I loved that particular nomenclature for that guy, because the entire election cycle, they said, want to make it about democracy and they said, you know, it's these oligarchs and it's these autocrats. [SPEAKER_07]: And I get it. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a huge problem. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the number one problem. [SPEAKER_07]: But I guarantee you, 90% of the people in the street could not tell you what oligarch is.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you keep talking about these oligarchs, and nobody understands what an effing oligarch is, like tyrants even better than dictator, because people know what a tyrant is. [SPEAKER_07]: It's tyrannical. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a tyrannical, there's always an evocative sense that comes from that word, even more than dictator. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_12]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I think we need to really, everything's about messaging at this point because I think there's no, because there's no policy that's possible. [SPEAKER_07]: Also, people who sell picture on to explodes in the next with their next no cycle, then they'll get it right. [SPEAKER_07]: We just need to hammer that because it's so personal.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it's a lot at base level at base level people understand when you make a deal with somebody if you make a deal with one of your suppliers for the bar And they don't come through even though they've signed on the dotted line. [SPEAKER_03]: There are rules about it, but you don't trust them because you make a deal They welds on the deal. [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, hey, man. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't trust you.

[SPEAKER_07]: They should worry about me wellching on the deal No [SPEAKER_03]: We know you're good for a day, but honestly, I mean, you know, that's that's why that's why you know, Jody among other reasons had you as her wonderful podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Go host, look, can we keep you around for another round here? [SPEAKER_03]: If he talks, if we must, if we must, we must, we must, we must, we must, no, I won't go to the party.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_03]: Refresh your drink. [SPEAKER_03]: If you got to do the thing, look, you know where it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Down the hall, left, right, or center. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we aim to please, you aim to please. [SPEAKER_03]: It is after all the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Come on back for another round on the Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: First, at the politics bar, we love hanging out with you. [SPEAKER_03]: We love it when you guys reach out to us on all of our social media as well. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know what to do?

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[SPEAKER_03]: like in your mongerita and just you know when you call don't have one of those hamburgers phones you know actually have a good phone that you could quality don't be like driving by you know with the windows down and I'm holding your shoulders or shoulders we can't can't you know no that's that's that's that that is a great big yeah no don't do that don't do that look yeah among other things you would have set our guest David shock it's Jody's one time co-host partner

[SPEAKER_03]: from the bunker and we also know we don't want to upset jody because you don't want to upset jody you wouldn't like me when i'm angry so there is more news in the news on tap going on obviously uh... there's been a lot of news this week uh... what do you think of uh... i have to ask you what [SPEAKER_03]: And Donnie doing, oh god, Donald Trump is looking and sounding so bad, so old, so drugdouts. [SPEAKER_03]: So, and if you notice, Jake Tapper hasn't written a book about it.

[SPEAKER_12]: Not yet. [SPEAKER_12]: Not yet. [SPEAKER_07]: But I think, oh, that kid, it took me a lot of different directions. [SPEAKER_07]: First of all, I think it was a blessing in the skies. [SPEAKER_07]: Because you look out at that audience, so there's people. [SPEAKER_07]: And like when I was a kid, you know, like every other kid I was an idiot.

[SPEAKER_07]: I, you know, I thought the army was kind of for losers, if people didn't know what they wanted to do with their life, or didn't have anything better going on. [SPEAKER_07]: So I guess I'll go in the army. [SPEAKER_07]: So when I thought about, you know, West Point, to me, West Point, oh, that I guess they made a college or, you know, the meat heads that were in the army. [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't realize West Point's like Harvard plus. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, God, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody tells you I went to West Point or anapolis. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm more impressed than if they tell me who went to an Ivy League school. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll give you my nephew, his name's Tyler. [SPEAKER_07]: He's PhD in physics, he works for a high-tech, but I don't think I'd tell you he works for. [SPEAKER_07]: Sure. [SPEAKER_07]: And he was on his dressing team in high school with a valley tour in his high school class.

[SPEAKER_07]: He didn't get into anapolis. [SPEAKER_12]: Wow, okay. [SPEAKER_07]: So that's the kind of people that are going there. [SPEAKER_07]: So you look at an audience of 800, you know, serious people, people that are so competent and so intense and so brave and so accomplished and they're listening to this.

[SPEAKER_07]: But foolish nonsense, this guy who's basically has saliva coming out of the side is now like all I could wonder is what in the world of these guys thinking because when he's talking about biting the enemy with in, okay, that should have been the rubicon for every reasonable person left in the world because I look up what these guys are doing when I look at the precision and the relentless determination.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it's not just that that they're using to deconstruct the administrative state, but the cruelty and it's abject and obvious, I'm starting to get the sense that these people aren't just trying to undermine the constitution. [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like these people are trying to undermine the social contract. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: That's magnitudes beyond the constitution. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the that's the thing that separates us from animals.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's the thing that gives me chills because these people, you know, and they've done the same thing to us and they're in their little ecosystem, they've convinced themselves that we're that I mean, some people are marching up to know. [SPEAKER_07]: who they are, what they're doing, what's their place in the food chain is, and they're shameless about it. [SPEAKER_07]: They just don't care. [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: They've convinced that we're the evil radical, woe-tard, liberal, whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: But so we're fighting people that legitimately believe we're as evil as they actually are.

[SPEAKER_03]: right they've been brainwashed they have we we have now what uh... hermen gobles wanted uh... what uh... roger ale's injured and there's a splitting it spitting image of gobles yeah it's don't tell him that because he doesn't like that [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard his most recent way to attack the comments that he's baby gobles us to say, well, I like it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, that's you know that that is the exact, that's the guy who got his ass kicked a whole bunch of times.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then when somebody was like, dude, really, if you just weren't such a jerk, you wouldn't get your ass kicked. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, no, I like it. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine, you can kick my ass. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, God, Steven Miller, what the hell is your problem, man? [SPEAKER_07]: I'll tell you this, watching Trump kind of mandor and almost stumble around through that speech.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like you see all the Hillary comparisons, I was always more of a mocellini guy. [SPEAKER_07]: That's very much, but now it's almost, he's starting to strike me almost as a King George III. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, he's Mad King Donald. [SPEAKER_07]: Very, very much that guy now, because he's losing his marbles. [SPEAKER_07]: I think they prop him up for an hour to a day. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not sure what they did.

[SPEAKER_07]: And make sure they get in front of a county or my cousin's right to be easy. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no. [SPEAKER_08]: And the thing that the caller on Stephanie show this morning said was when he walked on stage and when he had Seth walked on stage, nobody stood up like you're supposed to. [SPEAKER_08]: when the commander-in-chief walks in the room. [SPEAKER_08]: You're supposed to. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like a protocol with things. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, attention to that.

[SPEAKER_07]: He's doing what status they were or what they have. [SPEAKER_03]: Having been a military. [SPEAKER_03]: I hear them in a name veteran. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the rule is when, basically, they're very liberal. [SPEAKER_03]: highest level officer walks in Yes, stand up salute or you stand up especially for the president you stand up.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know that they didn't stand up because I would think that they all did They didn't cheer they didn't the people who were cheering and making noises and you know through the speed Staffers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were the civilian staffers the folks that Kegbreath brought over who were civilians from the Pentagon and some state department stuff But the generals and the admirals kernels all of them [SPEAKER_03]: Right because they all know and and you know being at this into the bar I have some people that I know who are down to the five-sided building as we jokingly call it and

[SPEAKER_03]: I can tell you what their thought is, the thought overwhelmingly, regardless of what their personal politics is, which is, which is, which means conservative.

[SPEAKER_03]: Very much so, what it means, it means actual, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, [SPEAKER_07]: like George Wilkins, like David from Conservatory.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, that's right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not MAGA, they're not MAGA. [SPEAKER_03]: They are not in the cult overwhelmingly. [SPEAKER_03]: And their thought is this two-show pass. [SPEAKER_03]: Among other things, the discussions in general are he's extremely unhealthy. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, they all notice the cult thing. [SPEAKER_07]: The cult is basically. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: The cult thing is they ever, they also noticed that the cult thing is everybody is focused on Donald as far as in Maga world, but they don't respect JD Vance. [SPEAKER_03]: Nope. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't like him and they won't do for him what they do for Donald. [SPEAKER_07]: crazy nobody does. [SPEAKER_07]: That's why if he were to collapse, you know, it would be scorpions in a jar.

[SPEAKER_07]: My biggest concern or my biggest question would be in that group is they're in the military. [SPEAKER_07]: And I know that there's lots of really powerful people and they talk to each other. [SPEAKER_07]: It's very kill switch. [SPEAKER_07]: Like is there a sense that we're not going to let this collapse? [SPEAKER_07]: like.

[SPEAKER_03]: There is a, yeah, I mean, I can't, I can't confirm or deny anything on that, but there is a dedication to the country that goes beyond anything and a dedication to the Constitution. [SPEAKER_03]: So there's that. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I've always had a saying, and I came up with a saying in 2000 after the election in Florida. [SPEAKER_07]: Jeff was the governor.

[SPEAKER_07]: Like, Jeff Bush didn't have to make the calls to have the trooper show up at certain voting precincts of black neighborhoods to, to, to, to, to, to, to, he didn't have to do all the thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Like, like, everybody kind, like, the saying is when everybody knows that real marching orders aren't required.

[SPEAKER_11]: True. [SPEAKER_07]: Yep, so I'm wondering the military, does everybody know the drill to preserve and protect the constitution and at the end of the day, we're not going to let this thing collapse? [SPEAKER_03]: The overall majority, but as somebody who's a veteran, as somebody who has some sources, I can confirm the majority of members of the military. [SPEAKER_03]: They do, and the rule is this, you cannot, you cannot abide an illegal order.

[SPEAKER_08]: An illegal order, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: You arrest somebody for giving you an illegal order. [SPEAKER_07]: And is there a protocol for arresting someone's senior to you in the military? [SPEAKER_08]: No, not according to Pete Higgs, that's you're not allowed to complain anymore, but Yeah, unfortunately. [SPEAKER_08]: But with with remember Donald stupid birthday party when we were all protesting. [SPEAKER_08]: And everybody that was military, they weren't marching.

[SPEAKER_08]: They were just walking. [SPEAKER_08]: walking, which is a big F.U. [SPEAKER_08]: to him and you know their command was like that's fine with me. [SPEAKER_08]: So that gives me some money. [SPEAKER_03]: No, they weren't just walking. [SPEAKER_03]: If their command had cared, it would have been sharp lines and crisps. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that it wasn't is a major sign that the commanders knew that this is just all ridiculous [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, okay, we're, we're, they were in their own way protesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: So if you, if you're wondering if most of the military and look, [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the idiots that have been trying to mob one of the social media platforms that I'm on today have been saying is that they've been saying oh all cops suck no all cops don't suck the majority of cops the majority of lawyers the majority of members of the military They want to follow the law. [SPEAKER_03]: They want to follow the rules.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the reasons that they join. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, and when somebody gives an illegal order, especially, one of the big things that they all are very well aware of. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm surprised because I've been asking questions about it, and there are a lot more people who aware of this than anything else. [SPEAKER_03]: In legal shorthand, it's known as an SOL. [SPEAKER_03]: Statute of limitations.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the whole thing is, if Donald Trump is not going to make it more than five years. [SPEAKER_03]: He's certainly, I'm sorry, he's not going to make it to a third term. [SPEAKER_03]: He's just not. [SPEAKER_03]: And that means that somebody else will get in and if we're smart and we organize and we do things correctly. [SPEAKER_03]: And we get six to seven centreders and five hundred. [SPEAKER_06]: If it's doing a lot of work and it's doing a lot of work.

[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, you know, we'll have you lifting that. [SPEAKER_03]: An asteroid could hit us all tomorrow when you beat us. [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, you know, that that's always it takes us showing up and doing the work. [SPEAKER_03]: But if we show up and do the work, there's going to be somebody else in there. [SPEAKER_03]: And these people who've done this, if they would follow an illegal order, they know full well.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a little standard statute of limitations in federal law. [SPEAKER_03]: If it is not set down if a penalty is not specifically set down federal statute of limitations is five years and virtually every instance, every charge that they can make, every individual charge could put, you could put back to back. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't have to be stacked on top of each other.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if they charge you with three charges and you get five years of peace, that's 15 years in the federal penitentiary. [SPEAKER_03]: There are a whole lot of people, especially down to the five-sided building, who are very well aware of this. [SPEAKER_03]: And so they know what illegal orders are. [SPEAKER_03]: And they know that Kegbreath and Donnie have it in their brains to, I'm 100% certain, give some illegal orders.

[SPEAKER_03]: But they also know they don't want to spend the rest of their lives in a federal prison. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, in the end, a little bit quiet too, because they don't want to be relieved that they're command and be replaced by somebody who's much more reliable. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: You are 100% correct. [SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly right. [SPEAKER_08]: And we were talking today for those that are concerned about the next election, not 28, but 26. [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: The fact that they're trying to gerrymander suggests to me that they don't have it in the bag. [SPEAKER_08]: Otherwise, why try to change maps? [SPEAKER_08]: So that gives me hope that I have some hopeiam that we're gonna actually have a fair election in 26. [SPEAKER_08]: Granted. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I don't like Jerry Manoring, but as you had noted a long time ago, Prop 50 is great.

[SPEAKER_07]: I think if you were to try to send national guards, the polls, I think they're going to be lines around the block five times to vote in this next election.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And these elections, these elections, this year in Virginia and in New Jersey, the people are coming out and living in the Virginia portion of the DC Metro, I notice that the bots are out there too, trying to push the propaganda and the BS about Virginia and I have [SPEAKER_03]: If the Republicans were certain that they would win, they wouldn't be so desperate.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the fact that their desperate shows, they're terrified they're going to lose. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And we know it. [SPEAKER_07]: I always try to do the work. [SPEAKER_07]: I have one question for, I'm going to call you Sean Chetch, if you keep them that long.

[SPEAKER_07]: How much longer can, uh, [SPEAKER_03]: uh... the speaker uh... delay the new congress person not long like a week and a week yeah jordies right next week next week okay it is so great to have you here in the bar man thank you very much for joining us here and we will have to have David shock at back you can find him on uh... i believe instagram i believe he is on that social platform i'm just gonna do that or you know

[SPEAKER_03]: you could just go to the dragonfly nightclub in Hollywood if you're cool enough look if you we also uh we're gonna get you another drink we got your off you will send coming up to hang on hang on we'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar [SPEAKER_11]: Well, let it go. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm not too far. [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, keep it ready. [SPEAKER_04]: You think it's far, where do you want? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm not too far.

[SPEAKER_09]: Shotsmith, Pearson, Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you know I was going to do that one? [SPEAKER_08]: No, until you did it. [SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: I just wondered. [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you know, I wanted to do your thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, okay, in my bank. [SPEAKER_03]: What has he done recently? [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's put glad you guys are joining us for whatever you happen to be coming in, whether that happens to be AM-950 and Minneapolis Saint Paul with a D2 talk in Tennessee, maybe you're listening on Chicago's AM-820WCPT, or you're listening at progressive voices radio worldwide wherever you happen to be, or maybe.

[SPEAKER_03]: maybe you are listening on the podcast you're one of those wonderful future people or maybe you're one of those galaxy brain people you're listening live on the radio now and then you've also subscribed on your favorite podcast player or at the politicsbar.com and that way you've got it as a DVR so you can scroll back and see if you missed anything like you know talking to David Shockett which is we had in the bar in the first hour so yeah it was it was fun because we haven't seen each other i mean obviously not in person but we haven't seen each other in a long time so it was nice

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he's cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: He should definitely go. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's he's fun. [SPEAKER_03]: And the discussion is great. [SPEAKER_03]: He's he's very smart.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a lot of I do think there are a lot of people who have said, I say that people are smarter and [SPEAKER_03]: as a general rule of thumb persons, I should say that people as a whole are dumb persons individuals are much smarter if you communicate properly and if you communicate ideas and information and ways that they understand well with my regard to my neighbor the other night that's we were finally because I was like I have to go home and go to bed.

[SPEAKER_08]: Um, but the other night when I was talking with him, he started saying what he would like the country to be like. [SPEAKER_08]: And I, I was watching him, I was listening to what he was saying. [SPEAKER_08]: And I just looked at him, I said, I don't think you're as conservative as you think you are. [SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: I think you're more liberal than you think you are. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a brand for them. [SPEAKER_03]: It is a brand for them.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's an identity. [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the reasons that that so many maggots are what they are is because for them it's an identity. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like my Husker shirt that I'm wearing.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's their team because of the the [SPEAKER_03]: just awful way that our modern mainstream news media has become they've made politics into sports and by doing that here's your team and and you know as well as a year a Dodgers fan which congratulations by the way I'm on there okay I'm on my skin by the way sorry now look look sometimes I press the wrong button that's funny though [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations to the Dodgers on their next step on the way to the world series.

[SPEAKER_03]: So they they I told they were an absolutely crush to I knew they would you know whatever it's fine but other games played today don't tell us what they are we haven't looked at the results yet right but we're working we have things to do yeah look it's a bar we're doing things but oh speaking of which hey [SPEAKER_08]: you want to do that now.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, let's do that because for those of you who, you know, would prefer us not to always do a great stuff alcohol exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: We got a very good drink. [SPEAKER_03]: It is a drink for sober October. [SPEAKER_08]: I did not know that was a thing. [SPEAKER_08]: I just knew dry January, but apparently they're sober October. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, sober October is kind of a UK thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I knew about it. [SPEAKER_03]: I just didn't really get into it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's actually, it's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, Jody and I mostly Jody because mostly this, this kind of stuff's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, got it up at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: The drink of the day today, uh, it is what is it, Jody? [SPEAKER_03]: It's an apple cider mule. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: And in sober October, we talk about it in the drink of the day.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a challenge to abstain from alcohol for the month of October to improve your physical and mental health and in originated in the UK where they do sober October, they have radio stations that do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Which, you know, that's. [SPEAKER_08]: And they raise money for cancer support. [SPEAKER_08]: So. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you were like, why do they raise money for cancer support?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because science, [SPEAKER_03]: science has proven that if you have too much alcohol, um, that increases your chances for developing on all different kinds. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, whatever, uh, colorectal stomach, you know, I mean those are the cancers that are mainly a set plus heart disease. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean there's a lot of things that says right with it. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like one of the writers that we talked about, who died of heart disease, it was a major drunk. [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_08]: They make too many writers. [SPEAKER_08]: David's not a big drinker, even though he's a writer. [SPEAKER_03]: And well, he runs a bar. [SPEAKER_03]: If you ever notice, most of the people who run bars don't drink [SPEAKER_03]: we have to keep our eye on the till. [SPEAKER_03]: That's how it works. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, too. [SPEAKER_03]: That's too.

[SPEAKER_03]: But if you are somebody trying sober October for the first time or even if you don't regularly drink alcohol or drink alcohol at all, today's drink today is very definitely for you. [SPEAKER_03]: So, Jody, what is in an apple cider mule? [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, now for those of you that do drink, you know, that a mule is in a copper mug. [SPEAKER_08]: So if you can get one of those great, but you don't have to. [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have one of those, you use a short fact glass.

[SPEAKER_08]: The Collins glass actually relatively not too tall, not too short. [SPEAKER_08]: And you have to pre chill either one. [SPEAKER_08]: And then you get eight ounces of chilled apple cider, four ounces of chilled ginger ale. [SPEAKER_08]: Two ounces of chilled tonic water, which I really like tonic. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm weird like that. [SPEAKER_08]: I do I love it. [SPEAKER_03]: Is it something you've always loved or something else? [SPEAKER_03]: It's a new thing.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's as if you're drinking but you're not. [SPEAKER_08]: It's like, [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, a little tonic with some lemon or lime juice. [SPEAKER_08]: It's really yummy. [SPEAKER_08]: All by itself. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I get that. [SPEAKER_03]: I dig this. [SPEAKER_08]: So either tonic water or non-accohaxperate for more complexity and there's a bunch of them that you can choose from. [SPEAKER_08]: There's a bunch of places where you can buy liars, there's one place, a y-r-e-s.

[SPEAKER_08]: Um, a caramel drizzle. [SPEAKER_08]: So we we're drizzling again for garnish, apple slices for garnish, and a cinnamon stick for garnish. [SPEAKER_08]: So this sounds very yummy to me. [SPEAKER_03]: This is great. [SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of thing. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, yeah, that's a nice, nice fall day.

[SPEAKER_08]: What, yeah, you place the ice cubes in your mug or cons glass, you pour the apple cider, then the ginger ale, and then the tonic into the glass, then you drizzle the caramel sauce over to the top of the drink. [SPEAKER_12]: All right. [SPEAKER_08]: So as much as you want, or is a little as you want, you add cinnamon stick and the apple slices for garnish, and then stir and serve. [SPEAKER_03]: Nice. [SPEAKER_08]: It sounds like a really yummy drink.

[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, pardon me, man. [SPEAKER_03]: I need another drink. [SPEAKER_08]: How about an apple cider meal? [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, that would be a pretty good drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, if you missed any part of the drink of the day, you guys know where to go. [SPEAKER_03]: Simply go to politicspar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: You subscribe. [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty easy $6 a month, it's like a buck 50 a week.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you go, you get the drink of the day, you get the podcast, ad free, and you get the news of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: It's all there to politicspar.com. [SPEAKER_08]: Amen. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: So we got more news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we have a nice section called the fighting forward section. [SPEAKER_03]: It's your second round in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: Hundreds of celebrities have relaunched a McCarthy era committee to defend free speech.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was I was really glad about this. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yes, headed up by Jane Fonda, but there's a whole lot more folks. [SPEAKER_03]: Ben Stiller will be Goldberg, Billy Eilish. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, Mike Lee. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, Sally Field. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's like six hundred. [SPEAKER_08]: I signed up on it. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not the type of famous, but I signed up for it. [SPEAKER_03]: Ah, your famous ran here. [SPEAKER_03]: We love you, Joni. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know.

[SPEAKER_08]: Famous in my own head. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and among Steph fans and among our fans, but it's actually it's really cool. [SPEAKER_03]: You should read the piece. [SPEAKER_03]: It's from NPR. [SPEAKER_03]: It happens to be in our news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess the Trump regime got really, really pissed off about it. [SPEAKER_08]: They referred to as Hanoi Jane like seriously got nothing new. [SPEAKER_03]: No, they don't have anything.

[SPEAKER_03]: They have nothing nothing new on that. [SPEAKER_08]: She apologized for that. [SPEAKER_08]: What she did for the past 50 plus years and it's like and her dad helped start the original. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, one that fought the house on American activities committee. [SPEAKER_03]: which, you know, basically was the red scare of the 1950s.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it looked that this is something that that some of the the Republicans that I know, I'm going to have dinner lunch with Bruce Bartlett this next week, I think. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's got a whole list of stuff I'm going to ask him if we can talk about it here maybe next week. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but one of the things that as somebody who used to deal with Republican stuff, he said Sherry said, uh, when we had her in the bar here similarly,

[SPEAKER_03]: Democrats need to invest for the long term in parallel structures, including, for example, this group, which had gone dormant, and then they go, oh, we're bringing back up on one of the things that folks like Bruce and Sherry say is, you guys know how expensive it is, not just in money, but in mind source, mind, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're,

[SPEAKER_03]: as Democrats as lefties. [SPEAKER_03]: When they're needed, you don't have to reinvent the wheel every single time. [SPEAKER_03]: It's one of the reasons that indivisible, even when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats have got us indivisible state after. [SPEAKER_08]: Same with move on. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, we've got, you know, they're still there. [SPEAKER_08]: And so if they need to try, they know what they're doing. [SPEAKER_03]: exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: All of these groups, these left leading groups, but that means that lefty billionaires have to actually invest. [SPEAKER_03]: They have to invest in leftling media. [SPEAKER_03]: They have to invest in these leftling groups. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you have to do because, you know, look, we have a couple of good pieces on all this. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, there's a couple of pieces in here.

[SPEAKER_03]: In that fighting forward section, these suggestion has been some states would like to try and withhold federal tax payments [SPEAKER_03]: It's not easy to do. [SPEAKER_03]: There are some states that are actually setting up laws and they're trying to do it. [SPEAKER_03]: California is one that could because it's Democratic Refecta.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you set it up, and you say, if your employer is in this state, then you have to go through a state check before you send the money, the tax money to the feds, there's a lot of stuff there would be a lot of challenges. [SPEAKER_03]: In other words, it's something that might be for the future, but it's not something that we can do right now.

[SPEAKER_08]: No, I mean, because we talked about it today, and I'm like, it's somebody called in on Stephanie showed today that I said, look, I would love to be able to withhold my taxes from the federal government, but I pay my taxes, everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's no mechanism for most most people who are not individual. [SPEAKER_03]: They're working for somebody their employer sends that stuff automatically to the thing.

[SPEAKER_08]: When you when you when you file your taxes, you know,

[SPEAKER_03]: you're still having to pay either extra or getting something back but regardless you're it you have no country if you don't do that you can get arrested you can get put in jail I mean you know if we're talking about since the republicans are like you know let's screw the law yes states doing that would screw the law but they would also say come and get me bro and that's if you're if you've got a corrupt federal government as we do right now who is saying oh yeah make me

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, there are other things that states can do. [SPEAKER_03]: We have a piece from David Atkins that's in there and one from Paul Krugman as well. [SPEAKER_03]: And I suggested to Mr. Krugman that he start using half-ashism because what he describes really is half-ashism. [SPEAKER_03]: But the bigger one to me, in some ways, is David Atkins' piece in the Washington Monthly. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, folks. [SPEAKER_03]: Maga hasn't won yet. [SPEAKER_03]: They may never fully win.

[SPEAKER_03]: So those of you who are doomers, who are, oh, it's awful and everything stops. [SPEAKER_03]: cut it out. [SPEAKER_03]: The only one of the big ways that we win is by not shooting ourselves in the foot. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're saying all cups are bad, you are complying in advance. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what the monster's wants you to think. [SPEAKER_03]: So cut it out, seriously. [SPEAKER_03]: Just I don't want to hear it. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to hear it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Joni and want to hear it. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody else I really need to hear it. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: We all know it's a bad situation. [SPEAKER_03]: You ain't got to tell nobody. [SPEAKER_03]: But in the same token you got to work. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to work for what matters. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to work for the people who matter That's what it's all about focus on that man, but you focus on the positive because you know Do the hooky and turn yourself around.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it's all about Look we guys you you guys come here to have fun and we have one of our favorite people coming in to have fun Mr. John Fuegel saying [SPEAKER_03]: It's just so cool. [SPEAKER_03]: He's bestseller on too. [SPEAKER_12]: Cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's got a gig coming up in Chicago for UWC PT folks. [SPEAKER_03]: So we will talk about all of that. [SPEAKER_03]: And more, well, get your drink or fresh to get yourself a drink of a day.

[SPEAKER_03]: Make yourself one of those after all. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you could actually make an apple cider meal probably in the time that the break is on right now. [SPEAKER_03]: So look, go, make yourself a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh enough of your drink. [SPEAKER_03]: It would you got to do. [SPEAKER_03]: Go buy some gear from the store at the politics bar back up. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, please.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then come back and we will [SPEAKER_03]: John Figuelsang here in the bar would join you and I yeah, it's pretty cool. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for hanging out with us here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_10]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Thursday night here at the politics bar, and you know what that means. [SPEAKER_03]: It's Thursday with FukuFang. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry I still like that joke.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's really bad, but Luke John Figuelsang who happens to be by Coastal in his wonderfulness of being on bestseller list. [SPEAKER_03]: New York Times bestseller list and L.A. [SPEAKER_03]: Times bestseller list [SPEAKER_03]: It's too bad. [SPEAKER_08]: You're not doing well with the book. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I'm so sad that it's not selling. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's almost like a, you know, like a Rush Limbaub book or something.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like five copies and you know, it's all mine. [SPEAKER_02]: I told my dad I was by coastal and he said I was confused. [SPEAKER_08]: What's all like it's a Jake Tapper book. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, wait. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Donald Trump acts anymore unstable. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to need to read about Joe Biden. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_08]: Me too. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we were talking.

[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking with David Chacken who was here earlier about that, too, about how Donnie was just slow and stumbling and mumbling at that whole military cosplay. [SPEAKER_02]: He makes me ashamed to be mentally unstable racist. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I like it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a stain on all of us.

[SPEAKER_03]: You are definitely not mentally unstable racist you've been kicking ass with a book you've been going to like all of okay you've been going to submit to all over the place i just got to say you've been going to interesting shows who you you told us you were doing who and who yesterday you're doing it's been fun i just did the uh... the uh... i've had it podcast those ladies are a hoot and uh...

[SPEAKER_02]: been doing a, you know, daily show and the, the cable news stuff is starting to finally crank in and yeah, yesterday I was saying I did a, I didn't have a smiley and Jimmy door show back to back because that's the kind of book tour. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm all about it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's quite the, the combo plate there. [SPEAKER_02]: So many liberals got mad at me for going on Jimmy door and I'm like, you're really not going to like the shows I'm trying to get booked on because,

[SPEAKER_02]: I've done here's Morgan's show the last two weeks and I need a delousing after this last one, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing, I want to do on camera things with them. [SPEAKER_02]: They have to look me in the face and do talk about what the Bible actually says. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm saying yes to a couple of podcasts that are so far to the right, I think they're in German. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll let you out all these stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: that's that's the whole thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's a journey I were talking about this.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think you've known that I've been friends with Bruce Bartlett for a number of years now, which if you would have told me that is me in high school that I was friends with Bruce Bartlett, I would have punched me in the face. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I was always like Bruce Bartlett, the guy, you know, responsible for trickle down and I have since learned that it like so like so many things on the right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Hosh. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, God, yeah, he was at Joe Walsh Bruce Bartlett first time I was at a political and a men's room and found myself at a urinal next to William Crystal and I was like, wow, we're both swing and left these days. [SPEAKER_03]: But look, the whole thing is, we've been talking a lot recently about some of the strange bedfillists, but some of these people, they know these things.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bruce has a list of things that really a lot of Democrats should be doing, and as somebody who, you know, a lot of the backbone that a lot of the even the current Republican folks are using, that the platforms that they are jumping off from are built in the platforms that people like Bruce built.

[SPEAKER_03]: And one of the things that Bruce says in his list is Democrats, lefties, his version of lefty these days is basically anybody who isn't a mug or cult member, he's like if you're a non-Trump Republican, an independent centrist and anybody further to the left, congratulations you're on the left now. [SPEAKER_02]: You're in the resistance, I would say. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't deserve it. [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of conservatives in the resistance.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: But there are. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things Bruce says is, we've got to not be afraid to talk about God, to talk about Christianity, to talk about religion as a whole, to not be afraid of it, and to be well-informed enough and smart enough to talk about it, which especially for some of our atheist friends, your book is exactly the key that they need. [SPEAKER_03]: But just in general, a lot of the stuff that we have to do is not be afraid.

[SPEAKER_02]: I find a lot of atheists know the Bible better than most men. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Democrats can't. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they seeded the flag, and they have seeded spirituality, and Jesus, and that's crazy, and it's stupid.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's understandable, politically, but it hasn't helped them, and there's a way to build a big tent, [SPEAKER_02]: all the coalitions that Christianity has ever been a part of that have been positive have been when it was authoritarian Christianity and the Jesus followers, the liberals and the moderates and non-Christians banded together, that's the only thing that's ever worked.

[SPEAKER_02]: The entire history of this country is authoritarian Christianity from [SPEAKER_02]: slavery. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've been through this. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I get a slavery and then the Puritans. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it started with the Puritans, you know. [SPEAKER_02]: This country was founded by people so uptight. [SPEAKER_02]: They got kicked out of England. [SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine? [SPEAKER_02]: And in the 1600s.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a great, but look, there's the Christians who propped up. [SPEAKER_02]: segregation, and there's the Christians who were the heart of the civil rights movement. [SPEAKER_02]: There were the Christians who propped up slavery, and there were the Christians who were the abolitionists. [SPEAKER_02]: There were the Christians who were the homophobes, the Christians who supported exploitation of labor.

[SPEAKER_02]: the Christians who hated migrants, and then there were the Christians and their allies who actually did the Jesus thing. [SPEAKER_02]: And you gotta choose what side you're gonna be on. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's really it. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Confederate Christians, corporate Christians, conquisted war Christians. [SPEAKER_02]: None of them really follow Jesus all that much and you don't need to believe in Jesus to call these frauds out. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, there are bad people in all the groups. [SPEAKER_03]: There are, uh, I have a neighbor who's a Philadelphia Eagles fan and somehow. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_02]: No, those people let that those people.

[SPEAKER_02]: We can't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of where I was talking with him and I was kind of trying to broach some of the politics stuff, and he's like, yeah, yeah, the Philadelphia Eagles fans who were like, you know, beat the hell out of five-year-old. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the Philadelphia Eagles fans who will beat the hell out of the guy who's beating the hell out of five-year-old. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I get that and you know, it's it's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are good people and bad people Earlier day John and I had this I you know, I made I don't know about that by the way, Sean I think we're all a little bit of both, but but yes, we are We'll kill you I will eat today, which will full-life eat today exactly exactly No, that's right John is right, but it's also the fact it is it's our choice to to You got you to do a spit take with that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's hilarious [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really good at visual gags on the radio.

[SPEAKER_03]: way we'll be adding the video soon on this one, but of course on that go on, but it's just it's just the fact that so, you know, there are some people who are saying, look, all these these cops and these ice folks, Joe, do you know a friend, you still have a friend who works for ice even though she's just a tapershuffle. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, she's yeah, she's worked there for years. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, before it was ice, I mean, that's how long she's worked there.

[SPEAKER_08]: She's a good person. [SPEAKER_08]: She's a lovely person, I love her. [SPEAKER_03]: there are even people that might my point was that I was saying something online and I was like, you know, look, you know, not all cops kind of thing and and some of these idiot further left used game for me and go, uh, I can't even remember the acronym they were using basically say, yeah, all cops, yeah, that's it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, [SPEAKER_03]: F off, man.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you know, look, most, most cops, most military. [SPEAKER_03]: When David Shockett was here, the thing that he was worried about from this military cosplay earlier this week with keg breath and, you know, grandpa Donnie was, you know, are the, the generals and the admirals, you know, where, where are they actually at? [SPEAKER_03]: And from some of the people that I know, down at the five-sided building, most of them.

[SPEAKER_03]: their duty and their loyalty is not to the orange monster. [SPEAKER_03]: It's to the constitution. [SPEAKER_03]: It's to the rule of law. [SPEAKER_03]: Especially this general, especially this cops, their their loyalty is to the rule of most lawyers are not Alina Haba. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: They're, you know, they're not Rudy Giuliani. [SPEAKER_03]: Their loyalty is to the rule of law.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I get the [SPEAKER_03]: the fear, especially for some of us on the left, but I'm like Jesus, you gotta have hope and you gotta get out there and stop being doomers about this crowd. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's what we have to do. [SPEAKER_02]: The people who say that all cops are bastards, and the people who say, well, no, no, a lot of cops are, but not all cops are bastards.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care who wins that debate, as long as every one of them shows up to vote on both sides of that debate, because the [SPEAKER_02]: Cops can do no wrong and racism is a myth people. [SPEAKER_02]: They're all voting. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they're both exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: People who view police brutality as cardio, they're all voting. [SPEAKER_02]: So you will live rules in your centrist with your all cops or bastards. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's summer girl.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care who wins that fight. [SPEAKER_02]: Just all of you show up to vote, please. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: I want to Supreme Court that will always side with the police over the bloody accused in the wheelchair. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and some of some of the stuff, um, these, these massive cuts with this bastard Russ of all that he's, he's doing all these illegal cuts.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's, we've been talking a lot about the failure of the mainstream media today. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things is that so much of the mainstream media is, oh, well, it's a shut down. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a, and then they're not mentioning the fact that things like what Russ fought wants to do are totally illegal. [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to do a rally. [SPEAKER_02]: You're doing hard there. [SPEAKER_02]: Sean, where's the failure part there?

[SPEAKER_02]: To mention the actual fact that what he's doing is illegal is that a failure for media that's a failure for journalism, but why do you think media wants the truth, why think media difference between journalism and media right exactly I mean like media is very happy for you to believe whatever and there's been three big lies about the shutdown so far right. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, and remember when shutdowns were rare, yes, yeah, now it's like Republican brand extension.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, now it's like Starbucks has pumpkin spicy season. [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, these guys voted for months. [SPEAKER_02]: They voted down any deals to avoid a shutdown. [SPEAKER_02]: And that was deliberate. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is not about furloughs. [SPEAKER_02]: This one, this is about firing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it is. [SPEAKER_02]: There's three big lies that we're in here that we're hearing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, the first, first one is the radical left's outrageous wish list. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and the wish list is health care. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Keeping 20 million Americans alive because that's socialism now. [SPEAKER_02]: Democrats are very simple on this. [SPEAKER_02]: Extend the ACA tax credits that keep insurance affordable for 20 million low-income and disabled people.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do the Medicaid cuts that [SPEAKER_02]: leave 10 million low-income disabled people more uninsured and then that's the whole ask. [SPEAKER_03]: There's one more. [SPEAKER_03]: There's one more and it's actually more important. [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the failures of the mainstream media. [SPEAKER_03]: The most important one is the base level ask, which is any deal we make with you Republicans.

[SPEAKER_03]: You actually hold to it and don't try to cut things out of it again in decisions. [SPEAKER_02]: That's of course. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be a well-shing little bastard. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, but on the surface, here's the surface though, it's about healthcare. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's what the shutdown's ostensibly about. [SPEAKER_02]: that they are fighting to take healthcare away from American citizens. [SPEAKER_02]: So they have to say this is about illegal aliens.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's the, that's the first big lie. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Republicans don't want you to have health care. [SPEAKER_02]: They want you to have a go-fun me. [SPEAKER_02]: They think your doctor should be a doodening Chad with a Venmo. [SPEAKER_02]: Republicans do not think health care is a right. [SPEAKER_02]: They think it's a raffle. [SPEAKER_02]: So they say Democrats want to give Cadillac Medicare to illegal alien. [SPEAKER_08]: And Donald said that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the same old xenophobic bedtime story. [SPEAKER_02]: They tell themselves when they run out of policy arguments. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no solution. [SPEAKER_02]: So they screen the [SPEAKER_02]: And and again exactly undocumented immigrants cannot get Medicaid. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_02]: They cannot sign up for federally funded health insurance. [SPEAKER_02]: You racist twists.

[SPEAKER_02]: They can get emergency Medicaid as we all can. [SPEAKER_02]: Not Cadillac care. [SPEAKER_02]: It's hospitals not letting people bleed out on the sidewalk. [SPEAKER_02]: Sign by Ronald Reagan. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean? [SPEAKER_02]: They love to cut health care for all people. [SPEAKER_02]: But they're just going to admit the scary story about Mexicans stealing yours.

[SPEAKER_02]: and Donald Trump posting AI fakes of a team Jeffrey's in a sombrero because the White House is now a racist TikTok feed. [SPEAKER_02]: And then the second blame is, oh, the Democrats, you support big insurance. [SPEAKER_02]: What, why are you side with big insurance? [SPEAKER_02]: That's the internet thing now, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Why are you doing the Democrats side with big insurance? [SPEAKER_02]: Like Ted Bundy, telling his victims, why are you siding with shallow graves?

[SPEAKER_02]: As you put me here and they're still Republican president Republican Senate Republican House and they're still blaming Democrats, and then that that you see the HUD web Yes, oh, yeah pop up and illegal pop up and like I'm watching a Russian porn site pop up out [SPEAKER_02]: And again, these Republicans, they want to take a trillion bucks out of Medicaid after next year's elections. [SPEAKER_02]: They want to cut half a trillion out of Medicare next year.

[SPEAKER_02]: They want to cut Obamacare starting right now. [SPEAKER_02]: And the tax cuts for billionaires will not be disturbed. [SPEAKER_02]: They want to keep their own government-gold-played essential plans. [SPEAKER_02]: And this is federal workers, 20% black, 40% in Georgia. [SPEAKER_02]: cafeteria workers, janitors, security guards, these guys aren't getting back pay because the real thing they want is to gut the government. [SPEAKER_02]: They wanted the shutdown.

[SPEAKER_02]: They did not want to have a CR because this is their plan. [SPEAKER_02]: Russell votes memo told the agencies to cut anything. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to quote, not consistent with the president's priority. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the children, women or minorities, you're not consistent. [SPEAKER_03]: Russ, by the way, wants to make sure he cuts cover, but he cuts your government and my government, not his government.

[SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that he has now changed from past shutdowns, he's made sure that the people who were responsible for processing the firing of people, they get to stay there. [SPEAKER_02]: The Bureau of Labor Statistics will be shut down. [SPEAKER_02]: So Donald Trump who keeps losing the war on math. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll finally be able to, we won't get unemployment numbers anymore. [SPEAKER_08]: We're getting the 80P. [SPEAKER_08]: We're getting them from 80P.

[SPEAKER_08]: They're going to probably sue 80P for that information. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's fake news. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And again, so, like this is the plan. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not gridlock. [SPEAKER_02]: It's sabotage. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And Demix, that's going to talk it that way. [SPEAKER_02]: And they don't want to reopen the government's [SPEAKER_02]: until there's no government left to reopen.

[SPEAKER_02]: True. [SPEAKER_08]: And the Republicans could just do a mini, like we're not going to do a full of buster anymore. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let him Trump won't let him, because he's monologueing like a Bond villain. [SPEAKER_05]: He says, and you shut it down, you have to do a loss, and you're Democrats, and we lay off half of the business, and kept it here in your workers on Democrats, and I'm monologueing it to you in advance, Mr. Bob, because I'm so smart!

[SPEAKER_03]: John, can we hold a monologue over until the next round? [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last call for alcohol or alcohol. [SPEAKER_03]: We're not alcohol. [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the public bar Thursday night. [SPEAKER_03]: You got you, Jody. [SPEAKER_03]: You got you me. [SPEAKER_03]: We got John Fugels angst to hang it out with us. [SPEAKER_03]: He's slumming it with us. [SPEAKER_03]: He's slumming it. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, look at him. [SPEAKER_08]: He's a bestselling author. [SPEAKER_08]: He's very honky. [SPEAKER_03]: He's 20 now on two coasts.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a series of some show and he's got his sub stack. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, honestly, I'm here to tell you people about [SPEAKER_02]: I heard the beautiful things about dionetics, and I didn't know what it would believe it wasn't until I actually sat down and learned for myself and got my own information that I realized that I was holding myself back. [SPEAKER_02]: And now, I'm great. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a level 9 Satan.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a beard wife and a pilot's license. [SPEAKER_02]: It's all waiting for you. [SPEAKER_08]: But what I love about you most John. [SPEAKER_02]: I love the Scientologist. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm John. [SPEAKER_02]: I kid. [SPEAKER_02]: I kid. [SPEAKER_02]: I kid. [SPEAKER_08]: I kid. [SPEAKER_08]: The thing I love most about you was that you were in coyote ugly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, that came up early. [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't that like two people's week?

[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's about 30 seconds I'm in that movie. [SPEAKER_02]: I, yes, I know. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm totally forgotten. [SPEAKER_08]: Somebody was talking about Piper Paribo, and I think Bella with a Z looked at that. [SPEAKER_08]: And she's like, wait, what? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Who was in that? [SPEAKER_02]: I played the guy who owns the other club who swindles the beautiful Australian guy out of his comic book.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I had to rewatch the movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Let me know how it is. [SPEAKER_02]: I've never made it to my scene. [SPEAKER_02]: I've probably. [SPEAKER_02]: Usually I got something I got to go. [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to finish this movie, but oh, it's my, you know, I know how to dance on a bar. [SPEAKER_08]: So there's that I did this movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I didn't know what this movie was.

[SPEAKER_02]: They they cast me based on a stand-up set I did at the, at the, at the laugh factory on sunset. [SPEAKER_02]: That was wow. [SPEAKER_02]: They like I, they were casting for this movie, coyote ugly. [SPEAKER_02]: I knew nothing about it. [SPEAKER_02]: I just did my usual act. [SPEAKER_02]: I had a good night. [SPEAKER_02]: They offered me this role.

[SPEAKER_02]: I spend a day working with this impossibly pretty Australian fellow And then I forget about it and the next thing I know I'm like going to see movies and I see the poster And it's all these gorgeous women and I'm like coyote ugly. [SPEAKER_02]: I did a movie with the same title, but I didn't need it Those ladies [SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea what I was missing out on. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you understand like like you're like like I'm in a star wars movie with no aliens or robots?

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying? [SPEAKER_08]: Like nothing festival about my role and Piper Parabo is a really good activist too Yes, she is. [SPEAKER_02]: I know she's amazing. [SPEAKER_02]: She has no idea who I was because I wasn't at the rap party So we never got the chance to meet she's great [SPEAKER_03]: She's she's also very attractive she is I will be she absolutely is and a great actor I love her work.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I think she's very good, but yeah, she's she's also very attractive. [SPEAKER_03]: That's [SPEAKER_03]: Since you're talking about attractive people in coyote ugly. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, yeah, there was a lot of attractive people. [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely. [SPEAKER_03]: And you want to talk about shot and anything you need to. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the hell that movie was. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I hadn't been paying attention.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was doing everything. [SPEAKER_02]: We're here. [SPEAKER_03]: I had no idea. [SPEAKER_03]: And so it was one of those things where I stumbled on it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, what's this? [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, and that interested at first, then I was like, oh, there's an attractive girl. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait, there's more attractive women. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm going to sit and watch this. [SPEAKER_03]: Just watch this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Was this the first time you realized you were attracted to a attractive woman?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So very nice. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you guys. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel weird either. [SPEAKER_03]: It's all good Well, I mean the big news of the day obviously is still the shutdown which I don't see how Republicans think this is gonna [SPEAKER_03]: And I fit them. [SPEAKER_03]: The new Wapopold 70 on percent of voters want the ACA tax credits extended and it's 47 to 30 percent that people see Trump and Republicans as responsible because they are.

[SPEAKER_03]: We've got another piece in there from Bill Share over Washington Monthly. [SPEAKER_03]: Literally, this is the big thing that you've been writing in this, Jody. [SPEAKER_03]: If Republicans wanted to do this, they've got 53 votes in the Senate. [SPEAKER_03]: They've got the majority of votes in the House. [SPEAKER_03]: They could for one bill change this.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're passing a clean CR, which is what they say they want to pass, and then they will go back and, you know, Russ Watt could go in and they could screw Democrats and the American people like they did with NPR and PBS, which is their plan. [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact is they could do that well today because today is Yamka poor, but it was because but but yeah, they could do it tomorrow, but they aren't going to do it because they want the fight. [SPEAKER_02]: They want the fight.

[SPEAKER_02]: They want the gutting. [SPEAKER_02]: They want the layoffs. [SPEAKER_02]: They right. [SPEAKER_02]: This is what they want to do. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, every time they were forced to shut down, they lose voters always blame them.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this time it's different because this time they really wanted it like he wants to destroy the careers of public servants he wants to destroy government services for regular people while making sure his billionaires get everything they want. [SPEAKER_02]: This is like watching a landlord evict his tenants, so we can turn the entire building into a Chuck E. Cheese, but just for billionaires.

[SPEAKER_02]: And again, the Republicans, they want you sick, they want you broke, they want you angry, and somebody else, they want you angry at people with the least power instead of the wealthy people who did this to you. [SPEAKER_02]: They are using this shutdown to accelerate project 2025. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: That's they they are trying to turn us into hungry with worse food and it is not sabotage or incompetent. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it's not incompetent.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is sabotage and broad daylight. [SPEAKER_02]: These guys are just getting started and Republicans are going to have to realize that Donald Trump probably can't help them in next year's midterms and he probably wouldn't help them in next year's midterms and it's going to be one by one then realizing. [SPEAKER_02]: They got to cut this guy loose if they want to keep their own jobs. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got to year this.

[SPEAKER_02]: The prices are going up in every Walmart and the Epstein files ain't going away. [SPEAKER_08]: No, they're not. [SPEAKER_08]: As much as they don't want to seat a representative, we're halva. [SPEAKER_02]: But again, every journalist has to ask every Republican if you agree with not swearing in someone duly elected because you are protecting the rapists of children.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the first journalist to ask Mike Johnson about [SPEAKER_02]: Protecting the rapists of children will be banned from the Capitol press pool and they should do it anyway Well, and did you guys see I mean there there's the the piece from Howard Lutnik.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think you sent it to me Joe I'm rep Garcia once Howard Lutnik to testify because Lutnik was on some podcast or something and he says oh, yeah, oh, yeah All the all the all the people that knew Jeffrey Epstein.

[SPEAKER_03]: They all knew most of them knew and some of them even were involved in it and you're like [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, some some of the people who know or like the the response I guess from inside the the Trump White House was oh my God He said Epstein and he actually said that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like dude you said it out there They they actually can call you in now for that and there are some Republicans whether we like them or not Every telegreen whatever What happened?

[SPEAKER_02]: Democrats will help protect that list. [SPEAKER_02]: It's too many donors. [SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't you still don't think you still don't think the list is gonna come out No [SPEAKER_02]: really. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think a heavily redacted list would come out with tons of names blacked out to protect those innocent who haven't been convicted in a court of law.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that makes themselves, I mean, you know, usually you don't use you when when a guy's going on trial and then he kills himself, you don't usually release all the files in the court case of the public. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a thing that's normally done, which is why Joe Biden didn't promise to do it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a stunt and man-baby promise this is a stunt and now he's trapped [SPEAKER_02]: And when there are redactions and they block out the names, they're going to blame him and it's going to make him look even more guilty. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to demand the names and you're going to see CEOs coming out and saying I swear to God, I'm not in these files. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they should be.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready to see a nation of terrified billionaires for a year or two. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh God, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: One way or another. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure there's some of those names are going to come out. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_03]: If nothing else, if nothing else, the victims themselves are still compiling a list.

[SPEAKER_03]: by, you know, amongst themselves, yes, right, exactly, comparing names and where they can testify, yes, you know, this one saw and this one saw and they do that, they got you know, Congress has no control over that. [SPEAKER_03]: So right, right now, no women are amazing. [SPEAKER_02]: They are, they are, they are such, they are such incredible fighters that, uh, Pete Higgs, Seth, is denigrating their abilities right now to a room full of generals.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how great fighters as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: That's enjoy that. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy? [SPEAKER_02]: flying 800 generals to watch his one-man show, Dude Bro Patton. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy that? [SPEAKER_03]: That was dumbest dumbest dumbest dumbest dumbest. [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a TED talk for fascism, sponsored by Viagra and Monster Energy drink. [SPEAKER_02]: It was the most pathetic thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: But let's talk about resistance last week, we're praising Disney and Monday night football, right? [SPEAKER_02]: We're giving the finger to sing Claire and making sing Claire back down and this week. [SPEAKER_02]: I got to praise America's generals. [SPEAKER_02]: Me too. [SPEAKER_02]: They were so quiet. [SPEAKER_02]: You could hear Trump's arteries getting hard. [SPEAKER_02]: They were so quiet in that room. [SPEAKER_02]: It was amazing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, imagine you're so fragile. [SPEAKER_02]: You drag four star generals from five continents to just clap for you and they still won't clap. [SPEAKER_08]: because it's not protocol. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not protocol. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe's like to work for the angels. [SPEAKER_02]: I know, but they don't know that. [SPEAKER_02]: Pete Hexette doesn't know that. [SPEAKER_02]: He thinks everything's going to be a woopful pep rally like it's Charlie Kirk's funeral instead.

[SPEAKER_02]: And let's be honest, if these generals had wanted to do a few, I'd love to. [SPEAKER_02]: They would have done it. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: I asked. [SPEAKER_02]: If they wanted to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: One. [SPEAKER_02]: In the back of the room. [SPEAKER_02]: There were no. [SPEAKER_02]: In the entire time. [SPEAKER_02]: They would have. [SPEAKER_02]: The least meritorious higher in the history of the Pentagon and every man and woman in that room knew it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: The adulterist racist public drug sex pest. [SPEAKER_02]: And denigrating the service of women. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of generals who are not amused by this. [SPEAKER_02]: Rebanding women from combat roles. [SPEAKER_02]: Revealing that he's going to make it harder for women to have sexual assault claims. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, because he's really he's he's Defense against women who file complaints. [SPEAKER_02]: This guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to bring the tell look bearer. [SPEAKER_03]: Aero bag. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's actually over 155 women have earned the army Rangers You only war Pete Higgs at this ever one is against a teleprompter font size. [SPEAKER_02]: That's it [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and and I'll tell you this too. [SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned this to David Shack earlier. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I know some of the people are at the five sighted building. [SPEAKER_03]: I won't say who they are.

[SPEAKER_03]: But their overwhelming response regardless of what their personal politics are is this two-shill pass because they know that the two big things they know is one, Donnie ain't gone last another four years. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's been my fridge that will outlast his circulatory system. [SPEAKER_03]: And to the cults will not bow to JD things and they and they know to be great watching him try though, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's a great watching in America's next stop fascist of all you aren't going to be able to sit on your Daven port and watch it because he'll be like, hey, get away from my girlfriend. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's going to be beautiful, it's going to be beautiful watching it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not as beautiful as watching these generals like refuse to applaud when Trump tells of the practice war on American citizens, but like they didn't even stand when he arrived and you're supposed to stand in on her of your commander in chief.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they did not look like if you feel down watch the whole footage not that's the clips What's he's been watching footage and watch these generals because Trump doesn't want general So defend the constitution, you know, I mean and then and then he's bragging me about beautification projects

[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's bragging about the fact that our troops are protecting freedom by mulching your bagonia's and dc I mean And he talked about stairs and paper and all sorts of other things. [SPEAKER_08]: It's like seriously dude All things I tried calling him fat.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean p-hexeth who looks like a g-i-j-o-dall that melted in the sun And he's out there ranting about fat generals while he's next to this human cargo ship of a president [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you say that you guys aren't fit and then Trump has the body composition of a beanbag chair. [SPEAKER_02]: And he, I like, again, and then he uses it to craft on the surface of women. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Jimmy Duckworth has a word or two about that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yes, she does. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but no beard. [SPEAKER_02]: Nope. [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing intimidates ISIS, like a clean shave. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. [SPEAKER_03]: I was just as as a veteran. [SPEAKER_03]: I was appalled, but I knew I would be because it's king breath. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it's like a terrier yager master exactly exactly that one. [SPEAKER_03]: John, we are always glad to have you in the bar every Thursday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All tickets come with a free hard cover copy of the book which apparently is impossible to find now. [SPEAKER_02]: We're already on our second printing from Simon and Schuster. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Roddy. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Roddy. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Roddy. [SPEAKER_02]: And so you guys so much. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: You deserve very much.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're always glad to have you here at Bob. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have you here next week. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Guys, thank you very much tomorrow. [SPEAKER_03]: It is Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: We have Karen. [SPEAKER_08]: We know we only have Anita. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: No worries. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll have Anita and we'll have fun. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys, thank you much.

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