Pour Decisions October 22, 2025

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Mr. Pierce will be here later and no, we're not related. [SPEAKER_02]: But Charlie Pierce will be in Bob Cesska had to reschedule something, which is fine. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, we got already got to talk a little bit of track yesterday with Tim Ross. [SPEAKER_02]: We talked with the little, you know, track politics with Bob next week. [SPEAKER_02]: The Charlie Pierce will be here. [SPEAKER_02]: We have a great drink of the day of very enlightening.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's one way to put it you know, I do what I can and then of course we've got all the news on tap for you today Thank you by the way to all of our great affiliates wherever you happen to be whether you are listening on Georgia now radio in Atlanta or WCPT AMA 20 in Chicago Maybe you're listening on AM-950 Minneapolis St. Paul or maybe you are listening in the detour talk in Tennessee or progressive voices radio worldwide Wherever you happen to be you are maybe

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe one of those magical future people, which Jodi's cat absolutely likes. [SPEAKER_01]: I said if you didn't want her head to shave my head, just pops up. [SPEAKER_02]: She's like, future people. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you, did you say me? [SPEAKER_01]: I was looking for her for like an hour and then she just shows up. [SPEAKER_02]: Then she just goes, pink head pops up. [SPEAKER_01]: So hello.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think she hears me talking and then sees the ring light and goes, oh, mommy's working. [SPEAKER_02]: But me's working at the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: It's time to say hello with time to get in her way. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you know cool cats at the bar is perfectly fine. [SPEAKER_02]: That is one of the things we do here. [SPEAKER_01]: The other boy had to get off my lap when I had to come in here. [SPEAKER_01]: He was all cuddled and. [SPEAKER_02]: Way to pass that was on your lap.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, the public's bar. [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's out at the grocery store. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to help my neighbor jump her car. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's fun. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, that's he is good with the car stuff, Mr. Lonnie is car stuff, video stuff, audio stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: I would have done it, but I didn't have the time to like pull my car out. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, you had to come here to the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: I get it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I understand. [SPEAKER_02]: We do what we do. [SPEAKER_02]: We can to help our neighbors. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is important. [SPEAKER_02]: But sometimes neighbors are. [SPEAKER_02]: A-holes. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, not mine. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank God. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, honestly, I'm pretty lucky right now. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got some pretty good neighbors here too, but this end of the bar in the DC area. [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you've had a whole neighbor's before, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever have anybody who actually did physical damage to the place where they live, their apartment or their home, like, you know, painted it a garish color or literally like, you know, just me. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a house that was down the street when I was a kid. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: Big. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, gigantic.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's now two homes that are also big, but it was a gigantic property on the corner of Sensa Boulevard and Alpine Drive. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: And this family bought it. [SPEAKER_01]: It was beautiful. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was like greasy columns and statues. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was garish, but not awful, like, right? [SPEAKER_01]: put a gold roof on it, painted the house green, if I'm remembering it properly.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then the statues that were beautiful, painted them in flesh color. [SPEAKER_01]: And when I say flesh, I mean white, a beige. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean pinky. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, beigeish and hair, nipples and all of that. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, okay, I know your girl. [SPEAKER_02]: And the neighbor's went, um, excuse me. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the entire city was mad. [SPEAKER_01]: And, but there's nothing, there was not, there was no H away there.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like, well, and that's, that's kind of like what we're looking at for the Trump regime. [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it might have been the Trumps I'm kidding, it wasn't. [SPEAKER_02]: But, I would buzz you, but, you know, it's the Donald Trump.

[SPEAKER_02]: you guys can look of course we always have the news on tap you can check that out for free at the politics bar dot com or get subscribed for free as well and we'll put it in your email box uh... we'll start with the second round today because that is where the uh... destruction and corruption is so those are you missed it uh... Chris Geidner uh... our friend at law dork has a really good piece up talking about the demolition of the east wing it's pretty much complete even though he said he wasn't going to touch it

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did, he said it on a note, the view did a whole montage. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Daily Show did one and I think everybody's doing the montage of, I'm not going to touch the house, is, is, is, folks. [SPEAKER_02]: Never, ever, ever, trust anything Trump or any of his accolades or any of his sickophons say. [SPEAKER_02]: You do not trust, this is one of the reasons we're still in the shutdown, because we cannot trust these people.

[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't trust Trump to take a dump in his shorts, even though I'm certain that he probably will. [SPEAKER_01]: Right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, if you ask him to, he won't. [SPEAKER_02]: If you insist, he won't, he will. [SPEAKER_02]: He is a obnoxious contrarian. [SPEAKER_02]: And so are a lot of the maggots that bow to him. [SPEAKER_02]: that they are not Christian. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Christians actually review your God.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they're God is their God is the orange poop master and our house the White House, which he's knocking down part of. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's against the law, what he just they went, Christians are saying was it was through a loophole where just demolition is not construction. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes it is. [SPEAKER_02]: So we talked about this yesterday that he put in basically he replaced the entire capital commission, most of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: And put in the guy who shows him the menu, signed this place, which probably was where he worked before he was at the White House of Trump. [SPEAKER_02]: But the guy who does the sign is here, police thing, is also now the guy who's the head of the capital commission. [SPEAKER_02]: And he's the one who came up with that excuse of saying, well, tearing down is not building up. [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's still illegal because there are other things that have to be done. [SPEAKER_02]: It is illegal, but the only people with the power to stop Donald Trump from trashing Congress is, well, trashing the White House is Congress. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, they're not. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, by the way, one of our fantastic people here in the bar, Mr. Tom Shave, for thank you very much, by the way, that's different from Tom with an H and the other Tom who mentioned anyway.

[SPEAKER_02]: We have a lot of Tom's who listen here, that's fine anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: Tom actually said, we know who's doing the illegal demolition of the demolition of the East Wing. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a company in Silver Spring, Maryland known as Asiko, ACECO. [SPEAKER_02]: And we have actually a piece that is in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_02]: The basically people are going out to websites where they can rank this type of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they are flooding the company with negative news. [SPEAKER_02]: They are demolishing the company's reputation, just like the company is demolishing the White House. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they didn't have to take the gig. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Jodie is right. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing, folks. [SPEAKER_02]: You can say no. [SPEAKER_02]: The proper thing to say to these authoritarian monsters, it's four words. [SPEAKER_02]: F you make me.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that may mean literally that they have to physically grab your arms and put your hands on the things they want you to do, which is what some of the ice monsters are trying to do out there. [SPEAKER_02]: But then some of the ice monsters are now getting in legal trouble and other issues themselves. [SPEAKER_02]: So when you say F you make me, [SPEAKER_02]: That's the proper response. [SPEAKER_02]: You're saying, hell no, hell no, hell no. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: This company, Asiko, could have said hell no. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, my sister, my sister who is in politics per whole adult life, she said, the courts can stop this. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, they're not listening to the courts. [SPEAKER_01]: She goes, but they could also sue the companies that are joining it. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: They might acquiesce to the courts. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's, there's, so this is one of those things.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they already spread the East Wing. [SPEAKER_02]: So from from the law review of Randy Rhodes, who remember, got her, you know, honorary lottery. [SPEAKER_02]: And also kicked a great big company's asset tried to sue her and shut her up back in the back anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: At a girl, standing is always the most important thing. [SPEAKER_02]: One of the most important things. [SPEAKER_02]: Who has the standing? [SPEAKER_01]: We do.

[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, we don't have direct standing to say to like you and I could not take a case to court to stop Trump from destroying the East Wing because we are not directly being harmed by it. [SPEAKER_02]: Even though it is our White House, that's where standing comes in. [SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, this is one of those gray areas where there's not really a group. [SPEAKER_02]: The only where the owners [SPEAKER_01]: Don't we have standing?

[SPEAKER_02]: But we're not directly being harmed by it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I am standing. [SPEAKER_02]: Not directly. [SPEAKER_02]: We're being indirectly harmed. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you, Jodi. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you on that. [SPEAKER_02]: But we are being indirectly harmed. [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna cost us money. [SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee it. [SPEAKER_02]: People, the only person or group who would have standing to sue is Congress. [SPEAKER_02]: and of course.

[SPEAKER_02]: Tiny Johnson and his freaks aren't doing a damn thing. [SPEAKER_01]: But wait, as much as he claims that it's going to be paid for by others. [SPEAKER_01]: But he is also suing us for $230 million. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, which it's 230, and it's, but it's our money, that's messed up. [SPEAKER_02]: If you guys missed that, we also happen to have that in the news.

[SPEAKER_02]: So today, that one is down just a little bit lower under the corrupt Trump regime section of the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_02]: So Trump is now demanding the DOJ pay him 230 million for past [SPEAKER_02]: That's it's it's crap on a whole bunch of levels the people who would have to give the authorization are basically his former personal lawyers and he's claiming will know I get the final authorization which dude you don't but again it's people not standing up and doing their jobs which kind of points is back up to the first round of the shutdown.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's a huge deal with the health insurance stuff and all of this We'll talk with Charlie Pierce who's coming in a little bit later, but the bigger thing and we've got a lot of great guests coming over the next You know week or two and we'll talk more about this, but the big deal about this is Congress is the people who could and should be doing stuff for this [SPEAKER_02]: Democrats are here as far as House and Senate Senate Republicans are here.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are a few Republicans who are here in the House, but let me let me lay it out. [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is really we've talked about this before. [SPEAKER_02]: The Democrats want no vaccines, ACA subsidies and Medicaid Medicaid Medicaid, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty easy. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: The reason why Democrats are are winning this shutdown fight if there can be such a thing as a winner.

[SPEAKER_02]: Republicans are starting to break due to the insurance costs. [SPEAKER_02]: We put a link to a Washington Post piece. [SPEAKER_02]: It's, I know, not there. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of wrong with the Washington Post, but this piece is pretty good. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a gift link so you don't have to subscribe. [SPEAKER_02]: You can just go check it out at the politicsbar.com.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Republicans are breaking for these reasons, premiums for insurance health insurance nationwide are set to rise by 18% on average per the Kaiser Foundation, which, if you remember Charles Gavis said that year when he was here a couple weeks ago. [SPEAKER_02]: Nationally, the average marketplace consumer, they've been playing, paying around 880 bucks this year. [SPEAKER_02]: They will now pay $1,904 on average in premiums next year.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's a difference of $1,024 because of Republicans. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, one of who's getting hit the worst, the Confederate South. [SPEAKER_02]: Of course. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is exactly what Charles warned us all about. [SPEAKER_02]: Georgia, by the way, this is why Marjorie Taylor Green is here. [SPEAKER_02]: They are being one of the worst hit states. [SPEAKER_02]: 96% of ACA and rollies in Georgia got subsidies this year.

[SPEAKER_02]: And Republicans want to do a way of subsidies for all of them. [SPEAKER_02]: A in Georgia, a family of four who was earning only 82,000. [SPEAKER_02]: Their insurance costs would be around 3,500 in this year. [SPEAKER_02]: Without the ACA subsidies, they'll pay over $7,000. [SPEAKER_02]: And if that family of four earned $130,000, they get priced out of the market. [SPEAKER_02]: They would have to pay the full cost of insurance $24,000 a year up from $11,000 a year.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is why Marjorie Taylor Greene is one of the few house members who is here and wants to get the ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's all the Republicans fault. [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't know what Democrats are standing up for. [SPEAKER_02]: Democrats are standing up to prevent that from happening. [SPEAKER_02]: Republicans in Congress are the ones who want you to get screwed like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Just a little reminder folks.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, look, we've got the drink of the day of very enlightening drink as we've mentioned. [SPEAKER_02]: We will. [SPEAKER_02]: If you subscribe, you know what we're talking about. [SPEAKER_02]: We also, we will do more news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: And Charlie Pierce, the one and only, although he still spells his name wrong, Charlie Pierce coming in here to the politics bar on a Wednesday night.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're hanging out with Jody Hamilton, me, Sean Smith Pierce, and Charlie Pierce coming up next. [SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday night here at the politics bar Charlie Pierce is here. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody Hamilton is here.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am here with you the one and the only Charlie Pierce P of sqire.com fame and of course sports writer extraordinaire because no we love Charlie Sports writing although I have to give you a little bit of grief Charlie because joddy's Dodgers are going in the world series with one of your former Reds' acc players just say. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so they're taking what you've got to whip them. [SPEAKER_03]: It was a really toxic game away for a bag of donors, a bag of donuts.

[SPEAKER_03]: over years ago, for which I, yes, forgive them, don't blame me. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, I'm happy. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, the Otani game, the other night, that's like something you're going to see every hundred years. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't. [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like 485 or something like that Yeah, just Yeah, and on average pictures and catchers are not very good at hitting because they have other work to do So for him to have three home any home run let alone three in a game is insane Right, well, that's it.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is the kind of stuff they've refused to do it 19 19 True and and by the way he used to do for the red socks, but we won't get into that [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying the red socks are given away all their good plans. [SPEAKER_03]: We keep giving them, we keep giving people away. [SPEAKER_03]: It's that we're very, we're very charitable that way. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: As a Washington Nationals fan, I completely understand we basically gave away everyone to Philly and then Philly lost. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's really a point. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty good with that. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, you could have kept them, but no, you gave them away. [SPEAKER_02]: So you can't go to the big games. [SPEAKER_01]: You can't go through there. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: God. [SPEAKER_02]: I wish somebody would have said that to dumbass Donnie and the East Wing. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's no East Wing anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: It's gone true true God. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to be it's going to be replaced by some large thing dressed in early horse. [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Look, the thing is one of the things and Joe Walsh, by the way, we are having Joe Walsh come back here tomorrow here. [SPEAKER_02]: I like Joe. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't show I said hi. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like Joe's podcast a couple of times. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe and I, Joe and I will, we will let, we'll tell, okay, Joe D and I will tell Joe that Charlie said hello. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Joe and I agree that I'd like to get back to the days where Joe and I could disagree about tax policy. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: or environmental regulations or something equally boring. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: We're not used to survival of democratic republics. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: Me too. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Walsh was saying, what are the big things?

[SPEAKER_02]: He said, look, if a Democrat wants to win in 2028, assuming that we are, you know, everything is still, and we haven't nuked the planet then, he says, they would be wise to run our policy of, we're going to knock down that monstrosity, return the East Wing to what it was or better and also put the Rose Garden back. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's interesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how much, you know, well, how much that would sell in like Idaho or someplace, but my, like, would sell on these code. [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, if you've been looking at local news around the country, or if you've been looking at social media from different places around the country, it's visceral how pissed people are, even including mega folks. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a perfect, it's a perfect game, metaphor. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Could you invent that a better metaphor? [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, Trump destroying part of the White House to put up a ballroom for donors, billionaire donors who are basically brining him. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The last president who makes us a fuss about ballroom was LBK taught you as talent. [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh two minutes for two minutes for that, Charlie Louise Pierce.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there we go, hockey's hockey's back too. [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, exactly two minute warning. [SPEAKER_02]: I get that. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I just, I'm, I'm mad about it. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't even think straight sometimes because of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so pissed about it. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're killing me now, is I never, I've never taken a White House tour. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was brought through by a friend of mine who worked for our colder.

[SPEAKER_03]: during the Clinton administration. [SPEAKER_03]: He brought me in after hours and we walked around. [SPEAKER_03]: I saw you over office and you guys know everything else, but I don't think I ever saw the swing now. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I've walked through there to get to someplace else once.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you, if you came in as a visitor to the White House any time in the last 50 years or something, you came in in the East Wing for the most part and this is just [SPEAKER_02]: It's frustrating, and it's illegal as hell. [SPEAKER_02]: It's still illegal, but. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people are arguing about it saying, oh, what Truman did? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when Truman had to gut the interior of the White House, it was because it was falling apart.

[SPEAKER_03]: The piano fell through the floor. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: And so. [SPEAKER_03]: Tony and Charlie are both right. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's not a good comparison. [SPEAKER_01]: Plus, the exterior was intact. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and not only that, um, when that was done, it was a four year period, there was a planning commission. [SPEAKER_02]: They went through the commission that Trump has now rigged, and they got all the legal sign-offs. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is nothing that Trump has done. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and yours, I can tell you, just call them the bulldozers. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the great dodges of all time is he and his people going through, you know, answering a request you with well, no taxpayer money is going to this project. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's all coming from people who are bribing you exactly, which makes it even worse.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just, I think that's, I think that is one of the things that is, I mean, I like, I like political corruption better when I was conducted through brown paper on the ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thank you, sir. [SPEAKER_02]: See, I said that as well. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now you guys are going from orange towards red. [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We are heading to the red zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now you get to start flirting with Lonnie on Tuesdays. [SPEAKER_01]: I can't know. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: has announced the eighth strike on boats that they can't prove our drug boats, but that they claim our drug boats. [SPEAKER_02]: This was the first one in the Pacific. [SPEAKER_01]: Where was it coming from? [SPEAKER_02]: I believe this is also Venezuela maybe. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I I caught it just a little bit as we were coming in the door here at the bar today, and I just went, are you freaking kidding me? [SPEAKER_02]: They're just randomly assassinating.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even there. [SPEAKER_02]: Without. [SPEAKER_03]: But by the way, how much drug how much drug do they think come in by sea? [SPEAKER_01]: No, exactly they don't. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean a lot that's pouring over the northern border. [UNKNOWN]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the other thing, Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: And as somebody who's been in press corps, you're gonna hate this one. [SPEAKER_02]: So Kegbreath also wants, there is a new right-wing press corps.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I heard about this, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you heard about this one, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, who's this? [SPEAKER_02]: Lindell TV. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, good God. [SPEAKER_02]: The gateway pundits. [SPEAKER_02]: Tim Pool. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh God. [SPEAKER_02]: And a random, sub-stack person that even the Washington Post didn't really know. [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all Tim Poles, the only one I've actually heard of. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do you've heard of the Gateway Hunter, right?

[UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I've heard of Gateway Punet, too, right? [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm going to end up, Linda L. P.B. [SPEAKER_03]: sounds like, you know what? [SPEAKER_01]: Was it Mike Lindell's thing? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's Mike Lindell's thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Mike Pillows thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Linda L. P.B. [SPEAKER_03]: sounds like a villain on the indie girl. [SPEAKER_01]: It does!

[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll feed me the town again. [SPEAKER_02]: All of this is just a level of corruption. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad that Senator Jeff Markley, I think, by the time that Y'all are hearing this, I'm pretty sure that he's going to be done with his speech.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because he was holding a nearly 24 hour speech trying to, I guess, get Cory Booker's record although, I guess, Cory stepped up earlier today and kind of gave Markley a little bit of a break, which, you know, don't surprise me. [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's the kind of thing Cory does. [SPEAKER_02]: But, um, [SPEAKER_02]: Merckley was holding a 24 hour speech on Trump's corruption and most of the mainstream media was like, yeah, I don't want to hear it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not interested. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't care. [SPEAKER_03]: Most of the mainstream media ignored 7 million people on the streets. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Which I won't say that they, that's my second bell of my segment. [SPEAKER_01]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: You're very good today, Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: I won't say they ignored them.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it depended on which outlet, like MSNBC did like almost full day coverage. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, and Oh, fuck, they've had some of it. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was hilarious. [SPEAKER_01]: They were saying chaos. [SPEAKER_02]: And they should have showed peaceful stuff going on, which was a chaos in the streets as somebody in an inflatable unicorn marches behind them. [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, okay, that's kind of. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can't quite get there.

[SPEAKER_03]: They can't quite get there. [SPEAKER_03]: They can't quite get their story straight. [SPEAKER_03]: either it was a bunch of, I was politely infinite, aging hippies, or it was like antifa. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a vast difference. [SPEAKER_03]: And then down the middle came the inflatable lobster. [SPEAKER_03]: We did lobsters in Boston, by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: Good for you guys. [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's pretty clear. [SPEAKER_03]: Incredible lobster.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, inflatable lobsters in Boston, and inflatable frogs in Portland, inflated in Los Angeles. [SPEAKER_01]: We had an inflatable bear at my protest and said, don't poke the California bear. [SPEAKER_02]: I saw multiple available unicorns here in the DC area, so, you know, that's it. [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have a look at the whole thing and go, so a lot of the mainstream media did do some of this, a lot of the local news. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's hard to completely ignore.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, did you, did you see what was a Missoula Montana, huge picture, big headline across the top of their front page, literally it seemed like everybody in Missoula in the surrounding area. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big town, I've been there. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, not just that, but I wound up, you know, going over the map with the little dots before. [SPEAKER_03]: And I found a place called Polbridge, Montana. [SPEAKER_08]: OK. [SPEAKER_03]: Which isn't even really a talent.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's an unincorporated entity, is they say. [SPEAKER_03]: And 100 people live there. [SPEAKER_03]: And 60 people showed up for the, for the, for the no-cakes really. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Bridge, Montana. [SPEAKER_01]: That's 60%. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is basically, which is basically, a glorified entry-weighted glacier national park. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's just it is that people all over the place are understanding the ramp and corruption of Trump and these maggot Republicans, especially the ones in Congress that aren't doing a damn thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Tiny Johnson is still keeping the house out even though we went over some of the insurance stuff, Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you saw the peace in Washington Post these days is kind of sketch, but they actually had a pretty good piece about the insurance numbers.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we've got it in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: It's right there at the top. [SPEAKER_02]: The reason why Marjorie Taylor Green is here in DC and most of the House Republicans are not. [SPEAKER_02]: Although there are now at least 13 or 14 who are openly telling Tiny Johnson, get your ass back here. [SPEAKER_02]: We need to get those ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the reason Marjorie's been here.

[SPEAKER_02]: So premiums nationwide said to go up by an average of 18 [SPEAKER_02]: But in Georgia, they're one of the worst hit, 96% of ACA and rollies in the state of Georgia got subsidies this year and in Georgia a family of four earning 82,000. [SPEAKER_02]: Their insurance costs this year would have been around 3500. [SPEAKER_02]: Without the subsidies, they will pay over 7,000.

[SPEAKER_02]: And if they were earning just a little bit more, if this family in Georgia of four was earning 130,000, they will no longer qualify for the ACA for the marketplace, they will have to pay full cost for their insurance, 24,000 dollars, that's up from 11,000. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, and if my her Taylor Green wants to do constituent service on this issue, she's got, she's got my support. [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, that's, that's, that's what the reason. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the reasons she's here. [SPEAKER_02]: That the two big reasons why she's here is the Epstein files, which she promised her constituents, when she got a reelected that she would, you know, go whole hog on to try to get those out. [SPEAKER_02]: And she promised them that she would try to keep costs down on their insurance. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like her.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's an awful politician in a whole lot of ways, but I can at least say on those two things. [SPEAKER_02]: She's right. [SPEAKER_02]: Since she was going to do it, her ass is here. [SPEAKER_02]: Where the hell is the rest of the Republicans in the house? [SPEAKER_03]: I'll give her that. [SPEAKER_03]: As you said, Sean, as you said earlier, I think they're starting to filter back, aren't they? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Some of them are starting to.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they're at least 13 on the record, who are telling tiny Johnson, get your ass back here. [SPEAKER_02]: We are screwed. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Johnson there, well, right, he's, but he hasn't I mean, everybody else belt. [SPEAKER_03]: Johnson, you know, and press the bill, and he's every day.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's there because he can be in for the cameras, but he could all he'd have to do was make one phone call, put one thing out and you'll give, given aid and tell him give the call and 24 hours later, he could bring all the Republicans back in the house.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, he's just not doing it and there's discussion among Republicans in the Senate now about the same thing that Jody you've been saying all along That Marjorie decided to copy you and say which is to say for this one bill They could go ahead. [SPEAKER_02]: They could pass the filibuster Do it with 51 votes if they wanted to and there were Republicans in the Senate now who are openly saying the same thing So John Fetterman. [SPEAKER_03]: I you know, nope, no go ahead.

[SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead. [SPEAKER_01]: Go. [SPEAKER_01]: Go. [SPEAKER_01]: Please. [SPEAKER_03]: We got a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: We get so seconds [SPEAKER_03]: okay no i i i i i don't i mean if what they're doing if it if they're really trying to camp down uh while speculation about what's in the fc files it's really isn't the way to do you know kidding no i'm kidding every day the government step down goes on [SPEAKER_03]: more and more people have packed into the up-to-date files.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about that with Charlie Pierce, who is here on a Wednesday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, we're heading to the break, we've got to pay some bills, collect some glasses, no what you got to do, freshen up your drink, come on back for another round with Jodie and Charlie and me and you here at the politics bar, hang on. [SPEAKER_05]: I'll let you go. [SPEAKER_05]: Ha ha.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I had, I had, I had my first in a groinie, no, we did it like that before. [SPEAKER_03]: No, oh, oh, I liked it a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: It's good. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: They're, they're very good. [SPEAKER_02]: Especially if you get the right alcohol and, you know, we've got some folks who we were looking at. [SPEAKER_02]: I like this distiller that's here in D.C. [SPEAKER_02]: They do some pretty good stuff too.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll talk about them down the road. [SPEAKER_02]: So we were talking in the break a little bit to the three of us about how, you know, if if if people who know how to market like the NFL put their might behind it, they can sell almost anything. [SPEAKER_02]: And as you're mentioning, Jody, there's going to be a new professional women's baseball league. [SPEAKER_01]: Four teams, Boston, New York, LA and San Francisco to start.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you and Charlie will actually have something to dispute about there, but actually it's baseball. [SPEAKER_02]: You will win. [SPEAKER_03]: It's baseball. [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. [SPEAKER_03]: And DNFL is going to start, you know, going to start promoting flag football. [SPEAKER_03]: I know it went to gym class in the 70s and 80s, like football.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, in fact, at my grade school, the flag football team was boys, only except for Tracy McGrath, I believe, was her name. [SPEAKER_01]: She was on that team. [SPEAKER_01]: She was the only girl on the team. [SPEAKER_01]: Why did he let her in? [SPEAKER_01]: Because she could run, she could catch.

[SPEAKER_01]: and i think she was a kicker on top of it all but she could catch the ball and throw the ball so she was like better than a lot of the guys that uh try it out for the team and she was on for fifth and sixth grade because she was a year ahead of me so my fourth and fifth grade she was on the team and she was great [SPEAKER_02]: Cool. [SPEAKER_02]: I got no problem with allowing co-ed and allowing all of that. [SPEAKER_02]: I think any of these things is great.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have said for years, you guys know, I used to run the, you know, be responsible for the Husker Sports Radio Network. [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, if you package it properly and you produce it properly, people will, they will listen, they will watch, they will buy the gear, down a huge bottle of tennis, everybody knows and we'd mention that yesterday. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, every 40 years we do it with the Olympics. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, you know, I mean, sports people don't even think about, yeah, between me Olympics, you know, everybody becomes a Luis fan or track in fear, right, right, water polo, yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: I think water polo should best be played in one of those tanks like they have to do with the polivers. [SPEAKER_03]: because the real dirty stuff takes place in the morning. [SPEAKER_01]: It's down, yes, it is. [SPEAKER_01]: That's where they start.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that way you can see underneath and have cameras kind of watching that way. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can see that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I can see that. [SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing for me is just the fact that people saying that, oh, I don't want to talk about policy. [SPEAKER_02]: And then you look at the shutdown. [SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that the Democrats have been holding for a month now on policy. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a simple poll.

[SPEAKER_02]: I hate some of the people that we, I want to hate. [SPEAKER_02]: I strongly dislike some of the people that we share the national media with, who bitch and wine and they go, describing it is too hard. [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, Charlie, our listeners have come up with the three things. [SPEAKER_02]: They've come up with short hand for the three demands that Democrats want. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's simple, the first one is no vaccines.

[SPEAKER_02]: No vaccines, no resisions, no takebacks. [SPEAKER_02]: Make a deal and stick right, Jackass. [SPEAKER_02]: Rule number two, we want the ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_02]: Thing number three, we want the Medicare and Medicaid money back. [SPEAKER_02]: How hard is it to state those three things? [SPEAKER_02]: And yet most of the mainstream needed, it's difficult, it's policy.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, if you sell it right and you put it out there correctly, people will know what the hell it is. [SPEAKER_02]: And isn't that the job of the people that we share? [SPEAKER_03]: The media with yeah, I was about to say it's part of the job of reporting to explain things in ways people understand Thank you Exactly like third bell. [SPEAKER_01]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know We'll give you all the bells anytime you're right.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is how it works No, but I mean I think the message on I think the message especially on health skills getting through to the point where I think You know, it it's to an extent grounding out [SPEAKER_03]: the other threat of these people that are running the government right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I know I don't think the correction, the correction we need to get through to that first one of Democrats will make a deal with you if you will stick to the deal.

[SPEAKER_02]: But as long as you have a rust vote standing there saying, if you would have your deal and I'm going to cut out what I want, one would anybody make a deal with them. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, I mean, I, I, I get, you know, I would have given up on on on treating Republicans, you know, offers in good faith years ago. [SPEAKER_03]: But right now it's so blatant and so obvious and so predictable that I don't know why anybody speaks to anybody down there.

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree. [SPEAKER_02]: Other than the fact that some of them, they say they have to and they do. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that is what we're paying them to do is finding a way forward. [SPEAKER_02]: But it is, yeah, if it were me, I wouldn't, I mean, I'd tell him to talk to the hand, because, you know, well, that's what they're doing pretty much.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But there are so many TV ad ready events going on right now, starting with the wrecking ball on the White House grounds. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the guy, the, the free, the pardoned, uh, Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the insurrection is to try to attack. [SPEAKER_03]: Or subscribe, who threatened to, I can get free. [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me why that guy isn't really hurt. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, among other things, Democrats do not have a organized, consistent, media messaging system. [SPEAKER_02]: It's something that we talked about it when Sherry Jakobas was here. [SPEAKER_08]: We did. [SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it. [SPEAKER_02]: I've talked about it with Bruce Bartlett for years. [SPEAKER_02]: And they have suggested things. [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we used to be Republicans. [SPEAKER_02]: We used to do messaging. [SPEAKER_02]: We know this stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: But there are still, basically, from what I keep hearing, it keeps running into the problem of certain people like Chuck Schumer, who have been there a little too long and do not understand the modern media environment. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think Chris Hayes, his latest book about, it's about attention. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think, I think Democrats really these days need to understand that's where it at. [SPEAKER_02]: It is about attention.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's about getting the cameras. [SPEAKER_02]: It's about getting the audio. [SPEAKER_02]: It's about getting the graphics. [SPEAKER_02]: It's about getting it. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not like, it's not like the Democrats lack the money for it. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, they don't, they don't have the, you know, the deep pockets the Republicans have. [SPEAKER_03]: But they get certainly got enough money to turn that one guy into Willie Horton. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_01]: I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: And they should. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it could be how I am around the neck of every, of every, of every Republican candidate in every race that's within four and a half points. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and look, by the way, speaking of of races that are up, you know, in our election land section at the news on tap today, great news for Democrats and Virginia Spanberger is up, depending on the poll that you look at between eight and 13.

[SPEAKER_02]: Cheryl is, I think, between five and eight in New Jersey. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, here in Virginia, all the Democrats are up at least five. [SPEAKER_02]: They tried to to plaster the guy who was running for attorney general and say, well, he said something in anger and it was pretty violent here a couple of years back.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like he said one thing, dude, you have a group of quote-unquote young Republicans, who clearly had been saying for years racist, sexist, violent things. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, also a lot of them are pretending to be young and they're really not that young yeah the 34 year old from Vermont who was a state center resigned because of that and then of course that that brings us to home grand platinum thing I [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what he looks like.

[SPEAKER_03]: He looks like as we say in Maine. [SPEAKER_03]: He looks like a dead fish. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not going to work for him. [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be the governor's seat. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully somebody and somebody had a ton of apple on this. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, obviously. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, I don't, you know, I know there's the whole forgiveness thing versus accountability and trust thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Some people forgive him.

[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, I'm not a voter in Maine. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a voter in Maine. [SPEAKER_02]: It would be for me something where I would go in the sorry dog. [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, I mean, hell, he lost his political director over some of this stuff that's come up. [SPEAKER_02]: There was the Nazi tattoo thing, his past Reddit posts, uh, trashing women and black people, I get it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I also get the fact that Governor Janet Mills, while she's doing well in polling now, she's 77.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sorry, but, [SPEAKER_03]: uh... maybe three weeks ago on the blog made democrats are the ruled off noria of stepping on your own basically i mean i'm serious i mean they that's how they wound up with fall a page of governor for two terms right because they couldn't get out of the wrong way after the primary right somebody always brings an independent supposed democratic vote right [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is exactly the same thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is, you know, it's it's platinum versus mills and that the folks who are very platinum are saying, but mills is 77 and the folks who are, you know, four mills and don't want platinum are saying, hello Nazi. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm, hey, you're mad at the Nazi. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I'm not a main voter voter, so I think a lot of the national media folks forget this. [SPEAKER_02]: Your local issue is not fodder for my games.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Your local, it's, it's important. [SPEAKER_02]: There's an, uh, there's an independent iceberg in Nebraska who is running. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, and Jane, you know, Jane Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: There is a, it's an unspoken, unofficial tacit agreement, basically, by Nebraska Democrats that they say, look, well, you know, our message sells an Omaha and Lincoln.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's still a lot of voters who are not an Omaha and Lincoln. [SPEAKER_02]: And Osborne has got a pretty good message. [SPEAKER_02]: And no, he doesn't agree 100%. [SPEAKER_02]: But there's a lot of things that he agrees with, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, as far as Nebraska Democrats go, and they go, well, sure, go for it. [SPEAKER_02]: If you think you can do it, let them go. [SPEAKER_02]: So they're just letting him do this thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, I don't know pun intended, but, but the Democratic party ought to be able to make a lot of, hey, out of the fact that the farmers are getting screwed again. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: God, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: You get another bell on that one, Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: God. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: But Argentina ranchers thing the whole, I'm going to make beef cheaper thing that Trump is doing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which and I'm going to and and you know we're going to you know we're going to screw the soybean farmers so that our into the art continuing economy can still try to all the soybeans it was right the whole thing we talk we talked about here in the bar that that I mean you know he screwed him on the tariffs again which they should have been smart enough to know that he was going to do that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Then he screws them all doubly because of dealing with China and now he's screwing the ranchers. [SPEAKER_02]: So he basically punched the farmers in the face and now he's kicked the ranchers in the groin. [SPEAKER_02]: All of whom many of whom voted for him and it's like, you guys should have known this was coming, young. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't do everything else. [SPEAKER_03]: Why can't try to grow its own soybeans?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big enough country, you'd think. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I mean, it's not everything else. [SPEAKER_02]: As I remember, I don't remember 100% this, but if I remember right, China has as far as arable land. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like 10 to 15% of the land is arable. [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of that has other big cities. [SPEAKER_02]: a lot of the land that they have is basically real crap for large fields of growing things which when you need soybeans.

[SPEAKER_02]: You need large fields for growing things which don't happen have. [SPEAKER_02]: They might have a lot of mountains and they might have a lot of space but if they're good for growing stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where that ends up. [SPEAKER_03]: That makes sense. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: Leave it to the Nebraska boy to figure this out for. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: We can't grow bananas here. [SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Bananas and coffee. [SPEAKER_02]: Which Trump is also saying he's going to lower the tariffs on that because it only took him what? [SPEAKER_02]: Ten months to figure out we can't grow coffee bananas here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I think that I think they can explain to them that you know full trees doesn't grow on trees Charlie we got to do the drink of the day coming up is your choice whether you want to hang or not you got time or not No, I I I hate to say no on the air, but no, I know that's fine [SPEAKER_02]: Please do you can always look at Charlie stuff at squire dot com. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got the link in the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you as our lose Mr. Peter so much We love it Charlie. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have you back in the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We got it in the drink of the day coming up hang on [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the fight. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_00]: Ready, come on. [SPEAKER_00]: Get the fun. [SPEAKER_00]: Wherever you are. [SPEAKER_06]: The politics march. [SPEAKER_06]: Shotsmith Pearson, Jody Hamilton.

[SPEAKER_02]: Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you doing? [SPEAKER_02]: It's Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_02]: And you and I just got to hang out with Charlie. [SPEAKER_01]: We did. [SPEAKER_01]: That was nice. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was the last minute asked. [SPEAKER_01]: Literally, the last minute asked. [SPEAKER_01]: And that was very nice of him. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's great.

[SPEAKER_02]: We have friends we're like, hey, you want to hang out at the bar because the other person who's going to hang out at the bar with this had to go do something else and Charlie's like, you know, hey, hang out at a bar. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm there, which is awesome. [SPEAKER_02]: You can read his stuff by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got some at linked in the guest section at the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Drink of the day time. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe I think I think we brought some light to this this the name of this I know we can Debbie boon it and go you let up my life. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh we could I don't worry about copy right but you know what it's just a line.

[SPEAKER_01]: No I get it I get it you know I'm sure she'd be fine with it even though she didn't write the song but anyway [SPEAKER_02]: For those of you who have subscribed, you guys know what we're talking about already. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody, what is the drink of the day today? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's called a combustible Edison cocktail. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a cool idea. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_01]: You know why? [SPEAKER_02]: Thomas and Esen. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Why?

[SPEAKER_02]: Why? [SPEAKER_02]: What is the reason for the cocktail? [SPEAKER_01]: Because he invented the light bulb today in 1879.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, actually he made it best today and he was doing it for a year because they they've been they've been I think of the light bulb the idea of the light bulb was started sometime in the early 1800s But today was the day where he basically perfected the filament he did he did and he It was it caught it only ran the little light bulb for 13 and a half hours, but think about the time period

[SPEAKER_02]: exact 13 and half hours was longer than 13 minutes or you know 13 seconds right and you know for those of you out there who have to deal with somebody like tiny Johnson we understand you know you're not used to you know long periods of [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying this, he made the light bulb actually function. [SPEAKER_01]: He did. [SPEAKER_01]: Which was a lot of work. [SPEAKER_01]: The filament and all that stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot of work.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you have old incandes and bulbs whenever it goes out, you can hear the filament just kind of click. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, most of the light bulbs today happen to be those LED and CFL compact fluorescent lamp bulbs, which, you know, they're more efficient, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're looking, they still do sell them, they just happen to be kind of a niche market there now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thing these days. [SPEAKER_01]: As much as Donald wants it to come back fully.

[SPEAKER_02]: which is absolutely stupid and given how all the the damn data centers are sucking up all the power yet we would not be able to have if every label was replaced with incandescent bulb or with uh yeah um yeah we would not be able to have all of those and the data centers so ay i would be gone [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or we'd be doing AI in the dark, which which you can't do because they need whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: No, they need light too.

[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, yes, so look, if you want to read up the whole history on on the bold and about Mr. Edison and his team and how that worked out, you can check that. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got that. [SPEAKER_02]: And the drink of the day at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_02]: Johnny, what do we need to make a combustible Edison cocktail? [SPEAKER_02]: Do we get fire? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the original way to make it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you did use fire, but go.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, because because we already we already did one drink this week with fire right Yeah, this is fire marshals are warning us not to do that again. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you know, they want you guys to be safe exactly Exactly, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you want to do it. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't recommend that this is a good drink without the fire So what you need is a shaker some ice a pre-chilled Nicanora or coupe glass.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay [SPEAKER_01]: two ounces of brandy or cognac or an ounce of compari that gives it the nice red color. [SPEAKER_01]: One ounce of fresh lemon juice and the garnish is a lemon twist. [SPEAKER_02]: Sounds really simple. [SPEAKER_01]: It's very simple drink and so you add everything into the shaker. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the ice shaken till it's cold, strain it into the pre-chilled glass and garnish with the lemon twist but don't get too lit.

[SPEAKER_02]: because it is the light bulb. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, if you missed any part of the drink of the day, best thing you could do just subscribe at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_02]: All right, back to the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll draw you another round for that, because there is a lot of news.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, we talked with Charlie about a lot of it, but some of this stuff, you know, we didn't get into some of the bits and pieces and some of the other stuff that's out there. [SPEAKER_02]: So where do you want to go on it is on it? [SPEAKER_02]: There is so much news still that is going on out there and it is some of it's frustrating and maddening like the the White House being torn down and some of it you know [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of glad for for the elections.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that people are getting out. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that that that Spanberger is doing well. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that and look, don't don't take this as a rest on your laurels thing. [SPEAKER_02]: If you are in Virginia or you are in New Jersey, if you are in California, Prop 50 land. [SPEAKER_01]: There if you haven't yet, vote vote vote. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, look, there are somewhere between, I make 1,200 and 1,500 elections between now and election day.

[SPEAKER_02]: November 4th. [SPEAKER_02]: find out if there is one in your area, we'll start putting more stuff on that into the news on tap, but you need to be informed. [SPEAKER_02]: You need to make sure that you're informed. [SPEAKER_02]: You need to vote early when you can. [SPEAKER_02]: If you can't get your ballot in the mailbox as soon as you can, if you can put in a drop box, whatever the situation is, find out in your area and make sure that you vote in an intelligent way.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just, I won't tell you how to vote. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe, do you want to tell you how to vote, but we will tell you to be smart about your vote. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I already checked my ballot was not only accepted, but it was also counted. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm already. [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to vote this last weekend, by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: I said I was going to and then before I had to do the car stuff, because I checked.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they said, no, no, no, you don't have early voting this weekend. [SPEAKER_02]: Early voting is next weekend. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, poop, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: But I will be voting this next weekend. [SPEAKER_02]: So good. [SPEAKER_02]: I will have my, if the weather is right, I will probably have my blue flee, blue fleece. [SPEAKER_02]: I've been isolated, blue fleece jacket and the eye voted sticker really stands out. [SPEAKER_02]: Really.

[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect. [SPEAKER_01]: I stood. [SPEAKER_02]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: But there is something funny about the M. Donnie election did you in New York City. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, did you see the article about Hot women for Cuomo [SPEAKER_02]: I saw it we had other things we didn't get into the news on tap explain to me what this hot women for Cuomo is because first of all I don't think hot women like Cuomo.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's she's a conservative And she's she did a whole like TikTok announcement of hot women for Cuomo dot com yet Somebody bought the domain before she did [SPEAKER_01]: And redirected it to how Cuomo was up on sexual harassment charges and other things. [SPEAKER_01]: So she might be pretty, but she ain't bright. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I don't know why, but I have, I have even when I was, was.

[SPEAKER_02]: a top when I was younger my mom used to say this that she said um... and this wasn't it wasn't meant to be an insult but she's kind of like a dog you can tell when people are evil we can tell people and i if i even if somebody looked nice if uh... i could just sense that there was something wrong with them i was not cool with them as a small trial so so many years smart about that

[SPEAKER_02]: So to me, somebody who, you know, looks on the outside pretty, but his ugly is hell, manga monster on the inside. [SPEAKER_02]: Oftentimes, I'm not really, they're, they're just a little something in the back of my head that says, don't go there. [SPEAKER_02]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: like that Roddy Piper movie, the name is escaping. [SPEAKER_02]: What is it they live? [SPEAKER_01]: They live, that's it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, where you have the sunglasses. [SPEAKER_02]: The sunglasses?

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Show to you is right. [SPEAKER_01]: One of the best fight scenes ever in a movie, by the way, is in that movie. [SPEAKER_02]: He was, you know, he was better, I won't say he was a, you know, a classically trained actor. [SPEAKER_02]: But he was better for his genre than I think a lot of people would give him better.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was a bad, he was, he was, that that movie is one of my favorite, weird movies. [SPEAKER_01]: I love that movie so much. [SPEAKER_02]: definitely and for the time too. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, it is. [SPEAKER_02]: They look, you can have some good movies. [SPEAKER_02]: You can have some fun stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you know, we do some fun stuff in the entertainment section. [SPEAKER_02]: Who's on tap?

[SPEAKER_02]: So the new Springsteen Biopic, deliver me from nowhere. [SPEAKER_02]: Some people like it. [SPEAKER_02]: Some people don't. [SPEAKER_02]: We put a review of it from USA today.

[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, it's kind of a [SPEAKER_02]: uh... the movie is really focused more on when he was putting that the raska album together oh wow so she it's been braska centric it doesn't go farther back or well i mean it doesn't little bit but it's it's more focused on him the person as opposed to him the the star on the stage with the crowds and uh... whatever that's a more like a movie i would want to see [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would probably be more interesting.

[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted to just see the concert footage. [SPEAKER_02]: You can go on YouTube and watch any concert footage of the boss anytime you want. [SPEAKER_02]: So you want those things to be kind of punctuation, but you gotta have some meat. [SPEAKER_02]: And the meat is the character dealing with some of the issues that spring steamed dealt with in the Nebraska album.

[SPEAKER_02]: So just saying it's that you might be, make sure you understand if you're gonna go see the movie, what it is, so you don't get out of it and be like, [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not a, it's a biopic. [SPEAKER_02]: It's right exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, people don't pay attention to some of these things these days. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I was expecting this and I got that. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, did you do any research into it? [SPEAKER_02]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_01]: No, did you see a preview? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you read a review like we have in the news on tap? [UNKNOWN]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh... by the way hats off to uh... ballet legend misty copeland tonight as we are here in the bar she is taking the ballet stage one last time before she officially totally retires nice so which you know honestly i think she'll probably do she'll probably be a little bit like share i mean i think you know she's officially retiring but she might do a little thing here and there that's what people are saying about the who and it's like yeah the who is retiring the peaton roger gonna still do stuff

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, yeah, like, okay, I heard I heard once this was years ago that your mom that Carol was retiring and I was like Carol will not retire and she's not in fact, uh, the uh, the, uh, Danielle is, uh, November it premieres in middle middle in November. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to try to get Mindy Cone who is also on the show to talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_02]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_02]: See, next three weeks, next four weeks, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm like, and plus is your mom going doing like other other shows and other. [SPEAKER_01]: She's been developing a show for app, but not Apple anymore. [SPEAKER_01]: She's in the middle of developing a show based on her experience at the rehearsal club in New York in the early 50s. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that would be cool. [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's a movie that she's in the middle of developing a call based on the book carrying me. [SPEAKER_02]: So, oh, that's cool.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's true. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: The greats don't retire. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I'm saying. [SPEAKER_02]: Misty Copeland. [SPEAKER_02]: She may be officially retiring. [SPEAKER_02]: She ain't retired. [SPEAKER_02]: Retiring. [SPEAKER_02]: She's just, you know. [SPEAKER_02]: She's not going to be like the primary at some in some ballet company somewhere.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's she might do a gig here in there, but you know, like you said, you know, well, you know, like Pete Roger, that's how to do a gig here in there, but they're not going to do a who thing. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not good. [SPEAKER_01]: The who is done. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're they're 81 years old. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: At some point, it's okay to kind of sit back and let the next generation come in. [SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: If they haven't learned it by now, my god. [SPEAKER_02]: The problem is on them at that point. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: All right, look, we got more news on Tap to go over with you. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, we have [SPEAKER_02]: a few clips of a few people talking about a few things.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll put those up on the DVR, if you missed the drink of the day, if you missed talking with Charlie Pierce as we did earlier tonight, you guys know what to do, subscribe to the Politics Bar podcast in your favorite podcast player, or as we suggested earlier, you can slide Jody and I a couple bucks, and just go to thepoliticsbar.com $6 a month, bam, there you go, it makes life easy for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, another round coming up on a Wednesday night with you and me and Jody, hang on. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday night here at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much for everybody who was listening to us on our great radio affiliates and if you're listening to the podcast too Of course, thanks to everybody who reaches out on social media as well whether you are reaching out to us on I don't know Facebook.

[SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot of Facebook people Substack we got some people who messages that way too or blue sky or threads or Instagram or Twitter You know where we're at we are at [SPEAKER_02]: politics bar, which, by the way, is where you are at this evening as you're hanging out with Jody and I. Ah, Jody, it is the middle of the week.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is, in some ways, it's been, it was a little bit shorter of a week, I think, because we started off with those no kings rallies, which I'm, you know, I'm really glad it was, it was energetic, even for me who was just driving by. [SPEAKER_02]: I told, uh, when Charlie came into the bar earlier, we were talking, I, I had a friend who, um, she is out, uh, out west. [SPEAKER_02]: And she has some anxiety sometimes. [SPEAKER_02]: She said, this time, she got out into the rally.

[SPEAKER_02]: And she was really glad that she did. [SPEAKER_02]: But she said, you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: She said, I was worried when the first no kings were all he happened. [SPEAKER_02]: And she said, I couldn't get out. [SPEAKER_02]: She says, you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to make sure to go to these rallies every time now. [SPEAKER_02]: And she says, if I don't feel my anxieties too high, and I can't, she says, I can still drive by. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, it happened.

[SPEAKER_02]: She had the realization. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the people who are driving by and honking and waving and giving positive feedback, that helps too. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: Being being in both a car and on a sidewalk, matters. [SPEAKER_01]: It does. [SPEAKER_01]: It really does. [SPEAKER_01]: It means people especially like big trucks when they do the big honk. [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody goes insane. [SPEAKER_01]: You'll have a thousand, ten thousand people on you.

[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, look, a BDD, a Brooklyn dad defiant said it. [SPEAKER_02]: When he said he couldn't get out on Monday, and so he was home on social media, passing around the videos and the pictures of the signs and the great messages of support, I think a lot of times we forget that it takes everybody doing their part. [SPEAKER_02]: And not everybody is going to be the person that's on the Jacob Silveroff is talking to a microphone and MSNBC.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not everybody is going to have the graphic skills to do fantastic sign or a great big costume. [SPEAKER_02]: But everybody can do something. [SPEAKER_02]: And everybody should. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, it, I saw somebody, it was brilliant actually, this person posted, so according to the right wing, George Soros paid upwards of eight million people $200 each. [SPEAKER_01]: which apparently is one point six billion dollars, but whatever, he has the money he probably could do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't. [SPEAKER_01]: And then, but they're like, okay, so if that's true, then why didn't any maga sign up for the protest to get their $200? [SPEAKER_02]: You would think, well, of course. [SPEAKER_01]: And then prove that there's a cash check that's made out to you from George Soros, because then it would be proof that he pays us all. [SPEAKER_02]: they're not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box. [SPEAKER_02]: Pun intended given our drink of the day.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's especially that. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, these things that some of these folks think about some of these conspiracies, they're just off the chain. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, if I wanted to prove that Donald say pays people to go to his rallies, which we pretty much know that. [SPEAKER_02]: But we know that he does. [SPEAKER_02]: We actually have had confessions and receipts from companies where he has bought people to it.

[SPEAKER_02]: That when he came down the escalator in 2015, $50 a person or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like I can prove that here here's your check. [SPEAKER_01]: Great or here's the cash money and take a picture. [SPEAKER_01]: Hi, who is giving this to me? [SPEAKER_01]: Can I get it? [SPEAKER_01]: My tax guy wants to know because I report everything kind of stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: And okay, you know, because if they pay and cash, they don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: It's another table. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's illegal. [SPEAKER_01]: Just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: But unless you report it. [SPEAKER_01]: Unless you report it. [SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise it's illegal. [SPEAKER_01]: Technically.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like seriously if he were because they also said, oh, he was gonna pay all the protesters as long as they stayed till noon And okay mind didn't start until eleven so noon was easy [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, protests that were here in the northern Virginia corner of the D.C. Metro that I was then I drove through. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they started at like three or four in the end. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some started at noon, some started at nine a.m., some started at two or three.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they don't wear you were at, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, here in the valley, they kind of staggered them so that if you wanted to go to ones in different parts of the valley within like a 15 minute drive, you could go to the one where I was. [SPEAKER_01]: We could go from one to the other to the other. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got to check in and we've got to see if she can be here. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Joe Walsh is going to be here tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_02]: John Fugelsang is coming in tomorrow. [SPEAKER_02]: We have Jared Rizzy will be here Friday and Karen and Anita will be here Friday too. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're also going to be on Karen and Anita's show on Friday morning. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember this is. [SPEAKER_02]: right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to be on there Friday morning. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's going to be kind of fun. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a change of pace for all of you.

[SPEAKER_02]: So look, we've got all this we make sure if you follow us on the social media stuff, usually you'll find out what we're doing and where we're going and it makes a little bit easier to keep in touch, keep up with all the fun stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: So the news on tap, I'll find stuff by the way, Oklahoma City Thunder celebrated their getting their rings, banner unveiling, and then they get a double overtime win last night against the Houston Rockets.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the NBA season opener. [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, good for them. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that should be, it should be good. [SPEAKER_02]: Lakers unfortunately lost. [SPEAKER_02]: That was the second game of the season opener last night. [SPEAKER_02]: Look at Donchitch scored 43 Golden State Warriors, still beat the Lakers because LeBron was sitting on the bench.

[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he's not feeling well, [SPEAKER_02]: And the NFL has announced that they are moving the proble festivities to Super Bowl Week in February, which a number of people have said makes sense. [SPEAKER_02]: So they had the proble at a different time is whatever it's like look and put it all together kind of like in New York. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe it has passed there where they are now going to shift the elections more to even numbered years so that more people tend to come out.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's smart. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like off ear. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want a sense of off-year right because we'll hear in Virginia in New Jersey It's odd years, but it's also even years So we do some elections now and some elections then which whatever which in some ways I think is not bad it gets you in the habit of voting [SPEAKER_01]: The most people only vote, well, more people only vote for the presidential elections.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then a smaller group vote in the congressional elections, you know those are every two years. [SPEAKER_01]: And then you get to, I mean, you get to, you know, your off-year mayor, mayoral elections or women in the rest of the world. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why in New York, they're doing that to try to move that so that way more people will come out. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So that more people are fairly represented. [SPEAKER_08]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think M. Danny is fine with that. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, look, okay, so my term will technically be three years instead of four, but whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I remember our last election for our she's really good bass or mayor. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a big city. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this is a big city. [SPEAKER_01]: and approximately 25% of people vote for the mayor. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like her. [SPEAKER_01]: I voted for her. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy she's my mayor. [SPEAKER_01]: But when 12 and a half percent of us are voting for somebody, that's not good. [SPEAKER_02]: I have been seeing a lot more social media posts, Instagram and other places that are noting how small the group of mega folks actually, they're tiny. [SPEAKER_02]: Somewhere between 6 and 15%, [SPEAKER_02]: And you're in a country of 350 million people.

[SPEAKER_02]: Six percent of the people should not be able to make the decisions for the rest of us. [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to fire Colin Joe's separately from SNL because he made a very funny Nazi joke. [SPEAKER_02]: These idiots who think, I'm going to cancel everything like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Look. [SPEAKER_02]: There are some things like Nazis that should be canceled. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Grandplatter. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, dude. [SPEAKER_01]: I- No, he's- he's test.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are things about him that I- There are things about his approach, I should say. [SPEAKER_02]: His positioning on issues and things. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not disagreeing with that approach. [SPEAKER_02]: But there are times when [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry for whatever reason something happens. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've we've said with Fetterman before. [SPEAKER_02]: Fetterman had the stroke. [SPEAKER_02]: He is a changed person.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I hope he gets more help. [SPEAKER_02]: I hope he's able to spend more time with his family, but I also hope he doesn't run again. [SPEAKER_01]: Tim, I mean with Platinum, it's like dude, as soon as you knew you were running. [SPEAKER_01]: get rid of the tattoo. [SPEAKER_01]: That way could go look. [SPEAKER_01]: I got rid of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Even before you run. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you run a, if you run a tight ship, if you do this appropriately, you do all of those double checks. [SPEAKER_02]: You do a God. [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it's called in corporate speakers called an AB test. [SPEAKER_02]: You do that type of testing where you have your own people act like they are the opposition and do whatever the deepest opposition died that they can try to find all of the worst stuff about you and in the worst positions and the worst ways.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I get, I'm not trying to be ages when I say this. [SPEAKER_02]: Governor Janet Nils, I guess has done some good things for Maine, look at the Maine politics [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we'd have to ask maybe Steven and Tabitha live up in Bangor, you know, the Kings. [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be great. [SPEAKER_02]: We'd have to ask him. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a friend who used to do music DJing there. [SPEAKER_02]: He's in Texas now, but I could ask him. [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: But she still, it doesn't negate the fact that she's 77. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's just 10 years younger would be better, five years at this point. [SPEAKER_02]: The problem with something like that is just the fact that when you get to a certain age, whether you like it or not, whether you're healthier or not, your health, the percentage chance that something is going to go wrong significantly increases.

[SPEAKER_02]: And if we had a 51 or 52 vote majority in the Senate, and suddenly God forbid something would happen. [SPEAKER_02]: Then what? [SPEAKER_02]: We have a 51 vote margin. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: We already had that problem. [SPEAKER_02]: We had three members of the Democratic Party Kennedy when he passed exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody is right.

[UNKNOWN]: So. [SPEAKER_02]: There, it's not ages to say, it is in the same way that Graham Platner should have taken care of the Nazi tattoo. [SPEAKER_02]: Should have taken care of the Reddit stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Should have come out about the video he did apologizing for, it was great. [SPEAKER_01]: Should have come out with it prior to people finding out about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody is right again. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Get ahead of it. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Get ahead of it. [SPEAKER_01]: So that the the Republicans and Susan Collins, et cetera, can't go out for you. [SPEAKER_02]: And the same way Janet Mills being 77, it's just like when Joe Biden, when when they would ding him about being old and we would say, you know, he's healthy and clearly, if you talk to the people who are around him.

[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of the people around him, even the people who would vouch for the fact that he doesn't speak great, but he still thinks okay. [SPEAKER_02]: would say that, yeah, you got to be more concerned with his age because it's his age. [SPEAKER_01]: He just rang the bell, though, his cancer treatment. [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, we were very glad. [SPEAKER_02]: Very glad. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Biden rang the bell in his cancer treatment.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We like to have him around for as many years as we can because we like to. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a good man. [SPEAKER_02]: But it is still the thing of when you're in the most stressful job. [SPEAKER_02]: Literally on the planet. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but you got to be looking at your health concerns.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and, and that's why, you know, that so people are like Charlie was saying early, like Charlie Pierce was saying earlier, the main Democrats really have kind of that they have some issues that they haven't dealt with. [SPEAKER_02]: One of them is that Plattener is a problem now and one of them is that Mills is a problem and my thought is you got anybody else up there because I know Mane's got Mane's got some other good Democrats. [SPEAKER_01]: They do.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is still plenty of time. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the be cut off to run there is until next spring. [SPEAKER_02]: who would take the best of Janet Mills and the best of Grandpladder. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Youth, vigor, assertiveness, health. [SPEAKER_01]: And not a naughty. [SPEAKER_02]: And definitely not. [SPEAKER_01]: or a Nazi sympathy, whatever, I mean. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, as drunk, it got a tattoo. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can see that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that he was. [SPEAKER_01]: I do believe that. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't disagree with that, but then, you know, again, as you said, Jody, before he even thought about running, he should have gotten that laser. [SPEAKER_02]: Should have taken care of it. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he realized what it actually meant, even if he didn't know at the time. [SPEAKER_01]: He was going to run for office, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Remove it, dude.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, I... [SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things where we are not main voters. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody is in the L.A. into the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the DC area of the bar, technically in the Virginia corner of the DC metro. [SPEAKER_02]: We don't vote up in Maine. [SPEAKER_02]: Y'all mayors are going to have to figure it out yourselves. [SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, Maine Democrats get your stuff together. [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, get your poop in it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Get the season out of there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because Susan is concerned that she might live. [SPEAKER_02]: She'll write a thermally worded note about it. [SPEAKER_01]: She's bad for that state. [SPEAKER_02]: She's bad for all of us. [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's only 100 members of the Senate. [SPEAKER_02]: And by God, we need some good people in there. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, milk toast isn't going to cut it, folks.

[SPEAKER_02]: So get some better folks. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: We do have there's a lot of stuff that is in the news on app. [SPEAKER_02]: If you missed any of the news today You're like, oh, it's busy. [SPEAKER_02]: I was doing stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We do have Joe Walsh, former Congressman Joe Walsh, who he's been hitting a lot of the shows lately and he's been pretty good and pretty vocal. [SPEAKER_02]: He's been, you know, vocal about his support for people like David Jolly and vocal about his his support for people like Mamden Danny, which, you know, when you're going in between that, then I too shall have him. [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll have him here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, we'll have the [SPEAKER_02]: Friday, obviously Jared Rizzi will be in and he'll be talking obviously about the White House and the Disaster the Trump has made it and of course Karen and Anita will be coming Friday as well Rest up folks. [SPEAKER_02]: It's Wednesday. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got two more days in the work week.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do what you got to do Go home get stuff cleaned up, take an app Tomorrow work and then come back here tomorrow night and join Joanie and me at the ball. [UNKNOWN]: That's more [SPEAKER_04]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go on a Wednesday night with Jody and me and you here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for hanging out with us all night, thank you for hanging out with us with every war.

[SPEAKER_02]: It could be tomorrow as well. [SPEAKER_02]: So, Jody and I were just talking about that, you know, the time changes coming up. [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly wish that they would put it on the daylight saving time permanently. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's actually, I think the best thing to do would be doing it a half hour. [SPEAKER_02]: Move it down a full hour, move it a half hour, trust me, look at the clocks, it would work out fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they do it in Newfoundland and, you know, we like your new feasts, we got a couple people listening to Newfoundland. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, isn't Russia just the same time zone all the way across the whole country? [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, yes, it's Russia's a China. [SPEAKER_02]: One of them is that way. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, if it's two o'clock in the morning, it's just two o'clock in the morning, wherever you are. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in theory, that is the way it is. [SPEAKER_02]: We operate off of, you know, the sunlight and those kind of things too. [SPEAKER_02]: So I get all of that. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why my body clock is a little bit screwed up. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why I'm a little more tired today. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, I think just emotionally, it's still, it's a really sucky thing to, you know, see the pictures of the White House just torn.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, but right now we are in daylight savings time. [SPEAKER_01]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: We aren't in the same time now, but we're to that that the part of it where it actually starts to to to flip into change before we go back so it's right quarter code standard time right except for you people who are, you know, on native reservations or Arizona or something right and no, you guys man, you're a lucky you don't have to change the clocks, but it's a way in time or Arizona time.

[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't mind a while in time, we could do a show in Hawaii, it'd be good for that. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's move. [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, honestly, I think it would probably be like, so when I used to work years ago, I got a story. [SPEAKER_02]: When I used to work, when I used to work at NellNet for a while, yes, I worked at the student loan company. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a temp job. [SPEAKER_02]: I had to do it whatever I had to pay the bills.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I was working at NellNet and we had to get a hold of some people who were down in Florida. [SPEAKER_02]: They were never there. [SPEAKER_02]: You pick up the phone and you call him. [SPEAKER_02]: This was 30 years ago. [SPEAKER_02]: And you pick up the phone or no 20 years ago, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, and you pick up the phone and you call him. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, you know, oh, you're looking for Johnny. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's not here.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's at the beach. [SPEAKER_02]: He left really to beach. [SPEAKER_02]: That's really beach. [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, come on, man. [SPEAKER_01]: I went to work to there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm like, if we ended up moving the show to Hawaii, my only problem would actually be showing up. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when I lived on the big island and then on Maui, people on the mainland would always joke. [SPEAKER_01]: So what do you guys do?

[SPEAKER_01]: I said, well, there is underwater basket weaving, and that's fun. [SPEAKER_01]: It's normal people. [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it's snowed on Monikaia when I was there. [SPEAKER_01]: And it snowed on Haliakala when I was there. [SPEAKER_01]: So trust me, it's [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Why he's got why he is not all sunshine. [SPEAKER_02]: There is no in certain places and, you know, they, they, they, you know, they have elevation.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a thing. [SPEAKER_02]: You also look that up. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Ben sent us a message over Substack, he is obviously a voter in Maine. [SPEAKER_02]: And he said, you know, I was reticent about having donated a Platinum campaign and then finding out about that tattoo, but given that the army does not allow hate symbol iconography with tattoos, and he's removing it for now, we'll give it to Ben with a doubt. [SPEAKER_01]: And that was the thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: He also his excuse was he was in the Marines for however long he was and kept getting physicals and nobody said anything about that chest tattoo maybe maybe his maybe has a chest wig and I'm just saying that but I mean it basically he never nobody ever said I think I saw him without he's very he's not that hairy. [SPEAKER_02]: possible. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the fact of the matter is nobody above his rank or his doctor said you got to do that. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, Ben's right.

[SPEAKER_02]: And Ben, you are here in the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: You're a main voter. [SPEAKER_02]: We get you dude. [SPEAKER_02]: You got you make your choices the way that you guys decide to. [SPEAKER_02]: We are not going to tell you who to vote for or not. [SPEAKER_02]: All that I can say is if it were me, I would be questioning it. [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be questioning it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'd be questioning Mills.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would be like, can I please have [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you on that and I have a question about Heggseth's tattoos because one of them is, oh yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So is that how we got kicked out? [SPEAKER_01]: How did he get kicked out?

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, some of it, if I remember right, and I don't, I don't 100% remember, but I think some of it was because of his Nazi tattoos and some of it was because of his reaction to being pulled from a duty because of some of the stuff that he'd said, when he was supposed to be protecting Biden, I think, or, you know, it's so I mean the tattoos alone, I mean his tattoos are obviously bad.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and look, there is some news, by the way, in the news on tap today about Kegbreath. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm frustrated about this. [SPEAKER_02]: So Kegbreath is announcing new severe restrictions clamping down on military interactions with Congress. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is basically, well, so normally you have a legislative liaison for each of the branches. [SPEAKER_02]: So Navy Army Air Force Marines, whatever, you have your legislative liaison.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not, this is not that. [SPEAKER_02]: What he is doing is he's saying all communication with anyone from Congress must run through this. [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to do the same thing with communication with Congress that he did with the journalists that he's now replaced with these, right wing propaganda's hacks. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Thing is, that Congress has the power to tell him dude, shove it right exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Show it is right.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean. [SPEAKER_02]: And they do and I can I can almost bet if you are on the Armed Services Committee in the House or the Senate when they request things and they say I want this information The military is bound to say yes and give you the information unless it happens to be you know Security information and then if you're ready in at that level of security clearance, that's fine [SPEAKER_02]: But that's not why K-Breath is doing this.

[SPEAKER_02]: K-Breath is doing this because of the fact that he doesn't want, he wants to clamp down on all leaks. [SPEAKER_02]: He wants to prevent any information that he hasn't personally blessed. [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what? [SPEAKER_02]: That ain't how it works. [SPEAKER_08]: Check it out.

[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll we'll see, but I have a feeling that he's going to get his come up and sooner rather than later, I think, because there there are growing number of people, even even Republicans that I'm hearing some rumors about who are saying that he's gotten too big for his British assistant. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're generals after that stupid meeting that don't like the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, was that yesterday that we had that in there?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it was yesterday's, and I mean, they're literally going, if he had us, he's lost us. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they, oh, it is today's. [SPEAKER_02]: There it is, um, pro-Trump media outlets, uh, details, military leaders blasting headsets saying that he has lost their trust and respect. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that story, we got the media version of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: The actual story went over the Washington Times, but I think the media, one was a little bit, uh, easier to read. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm glad you picked that. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want to watch the entire night.

[UNKNOWN]: That. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's interesting that he's speaking to them and the generals are speaking to those guys and saying, no, he's. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, just the fact that they're going, you know what, bite me. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll do what I want. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you cannot restrict me. [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is what we said before.

[SPEAKER_02]: Keg breath is going to try to clamp down on all of this is just going to piss off people more, who have the ability and the authority and the power to go elsewhere and be like, no, dude, bite me. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, he's he's just hopefully his days are numbered, but I'm worried about who helped. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his days will be numbered at that position. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously he will still be around.

[SPEAKER_02]: He'll probably, I'm sure, take him back to Fox or something like that. [SPEAKER_01]: What they did with the guy that they pulled his nomination, he's still in the administration. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just not. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, well, he pulled his own, that one is also in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_02]: Paul In Gracia, the guy who was the self-professed, he had a Nazi streak, he said, he has withdrawn his name from the nomination for special counsel, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, special counsel, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Director of the Office of Special Counsel, which dude is not qualified for that anyway, but, but yeah, because basically he's an [SPEAKER_02]: But this is this is that's why we that that's why we title the category when they show you who they are there's a good bit from CNN You can look at it at K file.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's talking all about the stuff there about how they they dug into this guy and he is just [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't belong anywhere near the office. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he might belong in the office of special counsel if it was a legitimate deal. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a defendant. [SPEAKER_02]: But you. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody is right once again, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, by the way, the New York State, a young Republican club, showing who they are.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there was a Syracuse hotel and Syracuse had a huge bill. [SPEAKER_02]: They had this great gig party. [SPEAKER_02]: And then, of course, the state party, yanked their young Republican club. [SPEAKER_02]: And they stiffened with the bill. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like $23,000 or something like that? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because when they show you who they are, believe them, believe my first time.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, who is in charge of paying that bill, and that person should be sued? [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of money. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it would be the young Republican club. [SPEAKER_02]: which is, I guess, managed by the state Republican Party. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure that there is a lawyer for that hotel. [SPEAKER_02]: There's actually going to find out, and they will probably end up suing the state Republican Party state of New York. [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of money.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that they, so just that, whatever, thousands of them signed me, you can second up. [SPEAKER_02]: You can eat 23,000. [SPEAKER_01]: And how many guys were there? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just a lot of food.

[SPEAKER_02]: and drink mainly drinks probably because that's you can tell they clearly probably were buying the expensive stuff top top shelf the stuff we have to go in the back for here at the bar stuff that's you know lock behind the the closet there yeah but that's why lock behind a closet the stuff that's more expensive than Dom Perignon which is a very expensive champagne right you know as if you're a good bar you got to have the good stuff because occasionally there will be people who

[SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, if it is a big group, if it's a big, I don't care if it's a democratic group, if it's a big group of anybody, if it's a big corporate business, look, y'all paying in advance to say. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, at least, just put the credit card down. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: The idea that they stiff them for 23 grand. [SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't nobody put a credit card down? [SPEAKER_01]: What was the hotel thinking?

[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know on that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's, you have to ask the hotel. [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying that, you know, that people can make mistakes. [SPEAKER_02]: I get it, maybe somebody who was, you know, running the bar to hotel that night, but at the same time, y'all come on. [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it was collective. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was, they had multiple multiple, and it was running a tab at the same time. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would like to get that, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't wanna tab get that 23 grand for a tab? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, admittedly, if they were creating tab, you would pay 23 grand for a tab. [SPEAKER_02]: I know that, Jody. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I would. [SPEAKER_02]: later we've got a tab though. [SPEAKER_01]: Completely different. [SPEAKER_01]: There's one in my fridge. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to open it one of these days. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's worth $20,000. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is some more news in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: The New York City got hit by the ice monster. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they did. [SPEAKER_02]: The Canal Street vendors, which look, I know if some of you know canal streets. [SPEAKER_02]: I do. [SPEAKER_02]: They, that's where they do the cheap knockoffs. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not exactly the greatest, but they went through there. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a feeling they're going to be watching a bit more on that.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a story we didn't get in that I saw a little bit later when we got into the bar today. [SPEAKER_02]: It looks like house oversight democrats are going to try to create an ice watch system and put it up on some site that Democrats have control over. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically in a reporting system, and ice won't be able to touch it. [SPEAKER_01]: So let's do an outtake down that app that was out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Which is, I think, one of the reasons why that the oversight is trying to do that. [SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to do it for their own benefit because they are overseeing the house oversight. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, ice, you may not like it, but house oversight, that's how that works. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they can now get arrested in Chicago, so I look forward to the first. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, you know, it's an old saying.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Now we're at the end of the night. [SPEAKER_01]: You understood it when you heard the last outro. [SPEAKER_02]: You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was a little tired. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go home. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to clean up after you and I are done. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm going to get this cleaned up.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go home and take an app. [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow, we do have Joe Walsh, and we have John Fuegel saying so. [SPEAKER_02]: As we mentioned earlier, dude, you got to do. [SPEAKER_02]: You can look at website, maybe get some gear overnight to the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_01]: And we will fix the store. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on with that, but we will... Hey, yeah, well, we'll holler at the folks there. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get a fix.

[SPEAKER_02]: Come on back, see Jodie and me tomorrow. [SPEAKER_02]: Gonna be a good show. [SPEAKER_02]: So, come on back tomorrow.