Narcissistic Sociopaths December 12, 2025

[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the bar, here's Volenocone. [SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to the bar, here's Volenocone. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: You think at the bar, where we were, the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: The shot's meant here, and showed you help, too. [SPEAKER_07]: Jerry! [SPEAKER_07]: John! [SPEAKER_07]: How you doing on his Friday night? [SPEAKER_04]: I am well, how are you?

[SPEAKER_07]: as well as can be expected I mean you know it's it's been a hard week yeah couple of very very hard losses i'm hoping night actually has a very good win after we get out of the bar tonight i am going to go watch my huskers it is a late game this evening and husker ball team should absolutely be kicking ass so i'm gonna probably punch up Charlie Pierce on the you phone and be like hey Charlie we'll watch the well watch the

[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you got plans for the weekend or not. [SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully it will be. [SPEAKER_07]: Nope, Jordi's like nope. [SPEAKER_07]: I haven't figured it out yet. [SPEAKER_04]: Actually, no, we are having lunch with some friends tomorrow. [SPEAKER_07]: There you go. [SPEAKER_07]: No. [SPEAKER_07]: No. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_07]: That's not a bad thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Nice, nice weekend to kind of hang out.

[SPEAKER_07]: Get ready for the actual holiday, which do you know? [SPEAKER_07]: Christmas holidays coming up by the way, uh, uh, Hanukkah's coming up starting Sunday night. [SPEAKER_07]: And today, yeah, yeah, uh, all the holidays, all the holidays. [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, we will have some great best of for the holidays. [SPEAKER_07]: We will be on our radio affiliates and in your podcast with some great stuff we've done this last year and some brand new stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, single day that we're normally on. [SPEAKER_07]: So, [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we're like hanging out with you folks and we know that we are part of your chosen family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, I mean, I think it's everybody's like geared up and then, [SPEAKER_07]: next week it's going to be a little slower oh yeah next week it's going to be a little slower and then the the two weeks at the end of the year are always just dead as slow.

[SPEAKER_07]: John was telling us last night how the uh some of the the series like some folks are like oh you guys need to be on live but new stuff and he's like what are we going to talk about man we want to talk about some of the stuff from the last year so [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, maybe we'll go hang out with John during that period. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, take some, take some time and, you know, come in from wherever we happen to be at the John's place because that'd be kind of fun.

[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, we'll see about that. [SPEAKER_07]: In today's news, um, what do you want to start? [SPEAKER_07]: Do you want to start with something happy or do you want to start with with something um, that's on a lot of people's minds, the health care. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's start with things that are on people's minds. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, Jody is correct. [SPEAKER_07]: The Republican health care failures continue.

[SPEAKER_07]: They do have what is it three weeks less one day today so three weeks from yesterday that's that's it December 31 clock strikes poof [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but as we mentioned yesterday, both bills failed in the Senate Democrats wanted a three-year extension. [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, a team Jeffries, he happens to have a dispatch petition. [SPEAKER_07]: There are three of them in the house. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And a team's is also a three-year extension.

[SPEAKER_07]: So clearly, sure and Jeffries got together on that. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's three years out to February of 2029. [SPEAKER_07]: right. [SPEAKER_04]: Which means hopefully we have a Democrat in office and we have you know super majorities in both the house and the Senate and we can get that magic into effect. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, let's let's work on that really really hard folks.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, it's uh one short um um Republicans just wanted health savings account which I saw. [SPEAKER_04]: And who is who I mean? [SPEAKER_07]: Are they going to give you a million dollars to put away Charles Gabba our friend who was in here during the the shutdown explaining that the healthcare stuff to us then he's got a piece up we have that in the news on tap today as well.

[SPEAKER_07]: But he was explaining last night on different social media platforms he said the healthcare if you want to understand how stupid it was. [SPEAKER_07]: So without the expanded subsidies let's say that your healthcare goes from $500 a month to [SPEAKER_07]: That's happening to some people. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: The Republicans idea with these health savings accounts is that they will give you a $500 credit towards that $1,500 bill.

[SPEAKER_07]: So you're like, okay, even if you take the credit as cash basically, it would still be $500 short. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you used to have your $500 now it's 15. [SPEAKER_07]: They give you five ego, well, now I've got a thousand. [SPEAKER_07]: I need an extra five, I, this doesn't, this doesn't help. [SPEAKER_04]: and are they going to give it to you monthly? [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, no. [SPEAKER_04]: That's the whole point of the tax credits.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, that's a problem with the two Republican petitions that are in the house as well, is that their details are kind of amorphous and they want to change some of the levels at which certain people get certain money and they don't really, yeah, it's it's really. [SPEAKER_07]: It's really up. [SPEAKER_07]: Democrats are still saying, look, it's very simple in the house. [SPEAKER_07]: We have a three year ready in the Senate. [SPEAKER_07]: We tried that.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll be more than willing to bring up three years again. [SPEAKER_07]: All you have to do Republicans is joined with a few Democrats. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, all the Democrats. [SPEAKER_07]: And get a three year extension. [SPEAKER_07]: And then you should, if you actually care about the issue, if you say you care about healthcare and you want to fix it well, then work with [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, when you have Madge and Josh Hawley, right, the fist, fistier, not out.

[SPEAKER_08]: I feel like, when you put that, the fistier, not out. [SPEAKER_04]: He, he, uh, I mean, with the two of them saying, yeah, let's do this. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: It that's smart on their part. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, she's not going to be in the Congress anymore. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, she's leaving. [SPEAKER_04]: Planning on staying around. [SPEAKER_04]: So it's smart politics.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just don't understand the politics of them saying no. [SPEAKER_07]: It absolutely is smart politics. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_07]: It's one of those things where I absolutely do not understand Harry in had some stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, Steph, it's Anton. [SPEAKER_04]: Anton, not Anton, my last name is not Hamilton. [SPEAKER_07]: We love you, Steph. [SPEAKER_07]: We know you're doing it just to bug Chris anyway.

[SPEAKER_07]: But Harry had some numbers as he always does over at CNN, and I got this on the DVR here. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, the immediate issue at hand is the extension of these Obamacare subsidies. [SPEAKER_01]: They expire within three weeks. [SPEAKER_01]: What of voters say they want to see there? [SPEAKER_05]: Extend it. [SPEAKER_05]: They want to see them extend it. [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, this, once again, what are we talking about here?

[SPEAKER_05]: We're talking about a clear majority of the American public say they want those expiring ACA subsidies extended compared to just 30 percent who say a lot of expire. [SPEAKER_05]: Again, we're talking double more than double. [SPEAKER_05]: on the extent side versus the lead expire. [SPEAKER_05]: And even 45% of Republicans on my little note there say that they should be extended.

[SPEAKER_05]: Again, we're talking about an issue that United Democrats and cracks the Republican base right down the middle. [SPEAKER_05]: This is just awful politics for. [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's bad politics. [SPEAKER_04]: He's right. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's just, it's like guys, if you pass this bill, you might retain your seat. [SPEAKER_07]: But this is, this is one of the things that, that it's with health care. [SPEAKER_07]: It's with the redistricting wars.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's with the immigration stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: It's with virtually always. [SPEAKER_07]: It's with the affordability crisis and the economy. [SPEAKER_04]: That's a hoax. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we all know we we all go we we go grocery shopping. [SPEAKER_07]: We know no matter where you're going Whether you go into a Harris theater or vans whatever country and part of the country you're in You know where you're going and you know the prices are up at a grocery store.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's how that and with with Donald saying Oh, let's not pay the insurance companies. [SPEAKER_04]: We'll just give them money. [SPEAKER_04]: Who do we pay them? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's the pay insurance company So donny listen to me and I know you listen to this show Donny [SPEAKER_04]: I, dude, what you're suggesting is single pair, which, hey, we go with that. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm with you, dude, just talk to Bernie, talk to Elizabeth to go.

[SPEAKER_07]: If if Bernie and Elizabeth got together and actually were able to get Donald to agree to it, I would even be willing to agree to put the name Trump care on it. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, why not? [SPEAKER_07]: I'd be like, hell, that'd be something you could be proud of. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Actually be proud of, but we know that that, yeah.

[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, the through line through all this stuff, [SPEAKER_07]: And I put a I put a piece in here in here in the the second part of the first round under affordability matters under the Trumponomics is failing section from Thomas Edsel from the New York Times. [SPEAKER_07]: The biggest challenge all of this of the affordability the health care the the the wars overseas the wars with immigrants. [SPEAKER_07]: It's Donald's ego.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's the fact that Donald Trump cannot, cannot internally, cannot accept being wrong, true about anything. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: And it was, who was that awful lawyer that was his mentor? [SPEAKER_07]: Right, Colin. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: That is right. [SPEAKER_07]: I couldn't remember the name. [SPEAKER_07]: That was a big thing that's known that Roy Cone taught people, told people, never apologize, never back down.

[SPEAKER_07]: Now, of course, Roy Cone actually did it because he was successfully, he was a bastard and he was a bastard lawyer, but as a bastard lawyer, he knew when to back down. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: So he was telling other people and he wasn't necessarily following himself. [SPEAKER_07]: But don't know. [SPEAKER_07]: It's so trad-life of him. [SPEAKER_07]: You're right. [SPEAKER_07]: You're right. [SPEAKER_07]: Joe, he's right.

[SPEAKER_07]: But, um, [SPEAKER_07]: It is, it's something that Donald thinks is gospel. [SPEAKER_07]: Donald thinks that's the golden rule, never back down. [SPEAKER_07]: And he cannot admit he's wrong. [SPEAKER_07]: Even even if it's hurting him, even if he is dragging Republicans over the edge like with the redistricting war, we're gonna talk about that tonight because that's gonna be all my yard. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, by the way, a Karen and Anita will be here from True Blue Politics.

[SPEAKER_07]: And they will be in a little bit later, which we are very glad about that. [SPEAKER_07]: Also, we have a, it's a gentleman's drink tonight in the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_12]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll have to talk about the person that is centered around who, and maybe some of the people that maybe some of you that your folks may have known. [SPEAKER_04]: One of them for sure. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, just actually two in that story.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: You. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: For those of you who don't know, you can get subscribed and get the drink of the day, and then you already know what we're talking about. [SPEAKER_07]: And for those of you who are subscribed, look at you. [SPEAKER_07]: You're so smart. [SPEAKER_07]: who are in that first section of the news on tap today, a four ability matters. [SPEAKER_07]: In Trumponomics, there's more from that AP NORC survey.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, Joe, do you remember one of the big selling points was of the Harris Walsh campaign?

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, helping with a affordability in two buying homes. [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. [SPEAKER_04]: It's almost like we told you so. [SPEAKER_04]: I just saw I saw a TikTok video of a woman who is complaining that she had a bad pregnancy going on and her fetus was not viable and she wasn't allowed to get an abortion. [SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, I didn't vote for that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you did. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you did.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: For all you folks and look, for those of you former magnifokes looking for a place or whatever and you're listening, you're going, I don't know about that. [SPEAKER_07]: Look, we don't mind. [SPEAKER_07]: You can come into the bar, don't throw chairs. [SPEAKER_07]: But when you do something wrong, admit it. [SPEAKER_07]: And guess what? [SPEAKER_07]: Y'all voted for that.

[SPEAKER_07]: So... [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, she's conservative from Iowa and she couldn't get any doctors to, I think she had to leave the state to save her own life. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's an awful, awful thing. [SPEAKER_07]: And nobody should have to do that. [SPEAKER_07]: And so why you vote for people who support things like abortion rights.

[SPEAKER_07]: Not that you want everyone to have an abortion, you want to make sure when the medical procedure is needed for you or for people you care about. [SPEAKER_07]: And you should care about everybody. [SPEAKER_07]: It's pretty crazy, you know? [SPEAKER_07]: It's Christmas. [SPEAKER_07]: Following it, it's care about people. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't be a virginic and do not, you act like that. [SPEAKER_07]: You're going to be on Santa's bad list for like several years, so don't be doing that.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're going to talk about several people who want to say on his bad list, Donnie and Tiny Johnson and yeah, we'll talk about all those folks. [SPEAKER_07]: We do have that great drink the day we mentioned. [SPEAKER_07]: We happen to have Karen and Anita coming up and we have more news on Tap so we're up. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a Friday night, hang out, freshen up your drink, go check out the store at thepoliticsbar.com, get yourself some new duds, and we'll be right back.

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[SPEAKER_07]: All right, Johnny Moore, the news on tap on he pulled us another couple from this one because we were just talking about some of this actually kind of some of the stuff that New York City is doing. [SPEAKER_07]: Mayor Alex Memdani is he's already getting involved in stuff even though he is not.

[SPEAKER_07]: technically elected yeah he's he's he hasn't been sworn in when does he get sworn in next month uh... genuinely first and so i'd like three weeks three weeks from today i think yeah yeah he's he's on top of it and he's obviously already working with uh... a g james of new york which is great uh... who can't get in the court you can't get indicted [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: That's, that's, we can show back to that other, uh, Mandani and James stuff that that's hilarious.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you go down to the third round Trump lands domestic wars and the war in the court I believe it is. [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, Trump's DOJ for the third time. [SPEAKER_07]: They're third attempt to indict New York attorney general, Lattisha James and they failed badly. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if they keep trying to do this first off, waste a money. [SPEAKER_04]: Joe, he's right. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's like, nice, come on.

[SPEAKER_07]: Now it comes, it becomes so obvious that it is, okay, what's that phrase that Glenn's told us about? [SPEAKER_04]: It's vindictive, it's vindictive prosecution, right? [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, which duh, I mean, it is, but and they're still like we were talking with John last night, like the story we had on the news on Tap yesterday. [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to try to put Lindsey Halligan in front of the Senate for confirmation.

[SPEAKER_04]: Good luck with that. [SPEAKER_04]: I have a better shot at becoming a D.O.J. [SPEAKER_04]: attorney. [SPEAKER_07]: Now here's the thing. [SPEAKER_07]: If Lindsey was going to spend her holiday break, cramming for this Senate confirmation to actually cram to pretend that she is a prosecutor, maybe. [SPEAKER_07]: But we know, like we were talking with Johnny yesterday, all the half fascism. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to have to ask it.

[SPEAKER_07]: She probably going to go to the beach. [SPEAKER_07]: She's going to have fun. [SPEAKER_07]: She ain't going to be cramming. [SPEAKER_07]: She's going to be studying. [SPEAKER_04]: She's getting from the Senate. [SPEAKER_04]: She figures that she passed the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, look, when you walk outside here, you pass the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: That. [SPEAKER_07]: I know. [SPEAKER_04]: And where did she get her law license? [SPEAKER_04]: Do you know what state?

[SPEAKER_07]: um... i was a florida i believe and i think it was uh... might have been florida international i mean not to impune them but i mean but she she has a real estate she's real estate lawyer correct yeah i mean she has she has a law license you don't you don't get specific it's it's not like with doctors exactly i mean there is training and other things that you can get afterwards but once you get your law license [SPEAKER_07]: You are certified to basically take the bar.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's a bar in each state. [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you guys don't know this. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think everybody knows? [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_04]: Everybody knows. [SPEAKER_04]: California, New York bars are the toughest to pass. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: So the way that it works is. [SPEAKER_07]: The state there is state bars. [SPEAKER_07]: There are bars for the territories.

[SPEAKER_07]: So Virgin Islands or whatever, but the the bar group is basically group of lawyers and they assess whether other people [SPEAKER_07]: are intelligent enough and informed enough to actually become lawyers themselves. [SPEAKER_07]: There are exams, there are tests. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: But there's also a little bit of maybe they didn't quite as good on the written, but they vary from state to state. [SPEAKER_07]: Some states are easier as you noted than others.

[SPEAKER_07]: So you can be a degree lawyer where you have your law degree, [SPEAKER_07]: But then you also have to in order to practice in a particular location. [SPEAKER_07]: You have to be a member of the bar. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: So yes, you've got your JD and maybe your credentialed in Florida, like Lindsay Halligan was. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: But then you have to get your credentials in whatever.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you're going to practice in DC, then you have to get, you know, if you're going to practice in Virginia or in California or wherever, then you have to get your get, because you can't practice law in California if you don't have, if you haven't passed the bar in California. [SPEAKER_07]: Which, the reason they can't, there are states, there are states in a lot of places technically, like you're doing it for yourself, you don't have to be a bar lawyer.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have to be a member of the bar. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but there are other other situations like being part of the DOJ where you do you do it to be member of the bar Well, and and like I said with New York and California, there's so much entertainment law That that's why it's a hard the the or by no somebody to pass the California bar on her first try [SPEAKER_07]: Damn, holy crap. [SPEAKER_04]: That's really, really hard.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's usually two to three times to pass either California or New York. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a brilliant woman, whoever she is. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and she's just, it's a friend of mine's now ex-wife. [SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, she passed it on the first. [SPEAKER_04]: Nobody does that. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's that's a badass right there. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean that's a legal badass. [SPEAKER_04]: It's such I mean the law in Califlight.

[SPEAKER_04]: I studied entertainment law for five minutes and it was like I studied I studied contract law in college. [SPEAKER_07]: I had if I had gone What was it if I think I had taken me the three or six more credits. [SPEAKER_07]: I would have had a minor in law as well I was one class shy of a law minor. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, three credits one class. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was, I actually took a business law class and I dropped it because I didn't need it.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I don't need this. [SPEAKER_04]: It's my senior year. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to have fun. [SPEAKER_07]: I used to have a West business law book that big old thick brown. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, I still have my entertainment law book. [SPEAKER_04]: Is it where I'm sitting here somewhere? [SPEAKER_07]: It helps to, it helps to know legal stuff, folks. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a good thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: There are maybe, maybe we'll get some recommendations from some of our members of the legal bar here at the politics bar and see what they see what they think about some of that. [SPEAKER_07]: But Trump's, Trump's more on the courts is just ridiculous. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh. [SPEAKER_07]: You would think with a basic level of education about the law that Donald would know this.

[SPEAKER_07]: So Donald Trump issued a symbolic and legally meaningless pardon for election and I retain a Peter's Colorado. [SPEAKER_07]: She was convicted on state charges trying to mess with the election nine years. [SPEAKER_07]: Donald posts on his, what is it, truth, truth, [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to ask you, Judy, since you and I both have a little legal knowledge, why is Donald Trump not able to pardon Tina Peters?

[SPEAKER_04]: First off, she was convicted of state crimes and not federal crimes. [SPEAKER_04]: And so there's a 10th amendment issue. [SPEAKER_04]: The president can only pardon people that have committed federal crimes and she did not commit a federal crime because the states run the elections. [SPEAKER_07]: Look at that. [SPEAKER_07]: Judi's racking him up tonight, and she also happens to be corrects on all of those things.

[SPEAKER_07]: Can't just one of the many reasons that I love running as far with you. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, you understand all this stuff? [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is the kind of basic stuff that Donald Trump should understand. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: You can't... [SPEAKER_07]: There's a whole room of reasons as you just went through the way he can't do that. [SPEAKER_04]: And I want to say the lieutenant governor in Colorado is like, it's never been tested.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's no reason to test it. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, but that's what Donald Trump does. [SPEAKER_07]: Testing defenses as Bob says. [SPEAKER_07]: Another mention of Bob says, by the way, Bob will come in next week. [SPEAKER_07]: He was doing some odd stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: Had to shift some stuff for track politics, which also, if you like to listen to track politics, you can go check their podcast out after you get out of the bar tonight. [SPEAKER_07]: right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Anywho Donald should know better and of course he didn't. [SPEAKER_07]: If you missed a lot of legal stuff and there was a lot this week our friend Chris Guy and our member of the legal bar here at the politics bar has a great round up over at Lawdorke we stuck that in the news on tap as well.

[SPEAKER_07]: uh... let me get back to the uh... the stuff about uh... uh... uh... new york uh... maintaining and james uh... they by the way are uh... taking on some of new york's housing cost issues good they're already starting to work with some of the the forces that have some money and some of the business people in and around new york city about some of the issues

[SPEAKER_07]: Basically, Mandani is like, look, some of the developers and some of the owners of properties, their gadget people a little bit. [SPEAKER_07]: Of course they are. [SPEAKER_07]: They're taken more than they should. [SPEAKER_07]: And they're going to work to be like, no, you can't. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, look, we understand you want to make more money and that's fine, but right now, especially with the economy, you need to be understand that you are a member of the community.

[SPEAKER_07]: In his case, the city for which he will be mayor. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And what he campaigned on was affordability. [SPEAKER_04]: That was one of the big things. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's one of the things that's absolutely still kicking Donald's ass.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the thing with New York City in particular, there are so many foreign investors that have buildings that are standing empty because they're just real estate investments that they're waiting to okay, have I made it? [SPEAKER_04]: All right, if paid this much in interest, I've paid this much in property taxes. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's gone up 17% or whatever now. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's it.

[SPEAKER_07]: I have seen different estimates at different times, but I've seen it estimates as high as 50% of the, the residential in New York City is actually just basically in a property empty, which is ridiculous. [SPEAKER_04]: When, okay, New York City could solve its homeless problem. [SPEAKER_07]: Just like that.

[SPEAKER_07]: And part of the reason that I mentioned it that way is that he's also obviously going to be dealing with, so if you go down in the fourth round, there's a segment called alternative dangers. [SPEAKER_07]: So New York City is past a landmark long to start regulating AI use at the local level. [SPEAKER_07]: Good. [SPEAKER_07]: In ads and in films, so you create something there in New York City, you're not going to be able to, at the same time that they did that.

[SPEAKER_07]: You notice Donald Trump whipped out his auto pen or whatever, and signed an executive order in an attempt to newter state and local laws about regularity. [SPEAKER_07]: Tent the amendment, people, tent the amendment, tent the amendment is on the menu today. [SPEAKER_07]: Here at the politics box. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to say. [SPEAKER_04]: I will somewhere in the Midwest, somebody some state passed a law that you cannot have AI political videos a month before an election.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I'll have to look at that. [SPEAKER_07]: That would be great. [SPEAKER_07]: It would make sense. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's the important thing. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, AI is bad enough when it's just normal. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's not going to come to talk about that. [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be very frightening. [SPEAKER_07]: What do you talk about that with Karen and Anita a little bit, too?

[SPEAKER_07]: But the whole thing with this week with Disney teaming up with, I think we had it in yesterdays or the day before news on tap. [SPEAKER_07]: The Disney is teeming up with open AI for their Sora platform. [SPEAKER_07]: That's the one where you could get online, and you could say, oh, I want this character to do that, and this character to do that.

[SPEAKER_07]: And one of the reasons it Disney is doing this, I mean, I don't like it, but they're doing it because the federal government, Congress, is not legislating restrictions, is not legislating rules of the road on how to deal with AI.

[SPEAKER_07]: and Disney has some of the most thought of properties in media, I mean obviously they've got star wars and they've got Marvel and got all the Disney stuff and the Pixar stuff and the way that it works with law is if there's a precedent at some level obviously if there's no precedent nobody has made a law yet

[SPEAKER_07]: Then judges and courts will look to, okay, well, what business agreements have there been done, what agreements between businesses and individuals and governments have there been done. [SPEAKER_07]: The contracts, contract law. [SPEAKER_07]: And so this is a contract between them. [SPEAKER_07]: Disney is trying to set up some kind of basis for this. [SPEAKER_07]: Since the Republicans and Congress and Tiny Johnson have a done squat, remember?

[SPEAKER_07]: They remember books, they took a six week vacation this year. [SPEAKER_07]: But they're not, since they're not doing anything to regulate AI, Disney knows that somebody's going to take their their their characters, their properties and try to do stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: If they've set up a deal with open AI where they've said these are the rules and open AI, the company that owns Sora makes the rules and says, no, you can't have the, you can't do that with those two characters.

[SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: You can do it that. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Many and many make it ain't me doing that. [SPEAKER_07]: Not in front of people. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, what you do behind the scenes is a few guys, but anyway, they, that's just is it Disney wants to make sure that things are regulated.

[SPEAKER_07]: So they are setting up a framework so that cities and states and eventually Congress will be able to do that and also so that if somebody tries to steal their work and make them do things that they don't want them to do.

[SPEAKER_07]: they can take it to a court and say we have a contractual agreement and here's this thing and here's this city and this state and this other people who have agreed to it and now there's all these examples and they'll go sorry Disney's got it on this one and they'll come down and like a ton of bricks well they should anyway I mean I know but apparently there's a whole TikTok thing going on with AI versions of [SPEAKER_04]: Children in porn situations.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kiddie porn, but they're not real. [SPEAKER_04]: And TikTok is letting that go. [SPEAKER_04]: And they're not pulling it down. [SPEAKER_07]: That's one of the reasons. [SPEAKER_07]: That's one of the reasons why we need good regulations. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: More or less. [SPEAKER_07]: It's not more or less. [SPEAKER_07]: It's good regulation. [SPEAKER_07]: We need, and that's why you need good government.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's one of the things that Donald and these idiot magnet Republicans to keep fighting against. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't want any government. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, if you don't want any government, then you're going to have people making AI Kitty porn. [SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know, we can put Donald doing anything we want if he doesn't want regulation.

[SPEAKER_07]: Technically, she's right, although the whole fact in the matter is I mean You don't even have to do anything like that because Donald is screwing himself. [SPEAKER_07]: No, I don't know what he's gonna say I have him doing that That's why I buzzed. [SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, I ain't nobody need to see that, Jody. [SPEAKER_07]: Nobody needs to see that. [SPEAKER_07]: He's Chris [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Jody is right. [SPEAKER_07]: So there you go.

[SPEAKER_07]: Covering a little bit of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_07]: We will let the tap sit for a minute because we got another drink coming up. [SPEAKER_07]: It is a little bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We have a very good drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_07]: I was wondering if you were going to hit this particular person that it focused on because [SPEAKER_07]: You know, kind of a favorite, and I know some of the people in your family knows on these people.

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[SPEAKER_07]: Check it all out, it's all there at the politics bar, that account. [SPEAKER_07]: Of course, as you know, Jody, for those people who are subscribed, they get the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: I do. [SPEAKER_07]: With the recipe. [SPEAKER_07]: I do. [SPEAKER_07]: It's a pretty good drink today. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, not exactly complicated. [SPEAKER_07]: But it's good. [SPEAKER_07]: It's good. [SPEAKER_07]: I, because it was so easy. [SPEAKER_07]: I changed.

[SPEAKER_07]: I changed the title of the live. [SPEAKER_04]: But you also changed something that is not accurate. [SPEAKER_07]: Which is. [SPEAKER_04]: Frank Sinatra's mugshot was for actually seducing a woman. [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't for a movie. [SPEAKER_07]: Really? [SPEAKER_07]: Are you talking about the one that's down there? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I'm talking about. [SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm talking about.

[SPEAKER_04]: He got arrested for seduction. [SPEAKER_04]: Not the movie involved. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a real mugshot. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yes. [SPEAKER_07]: I changed the caption. [SPEAKER_04]: I apologize for that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, trust me. [SPEAKER_04]: We have that at home. [SPEAKER_07]: No way really he got he got arrested for seducing a woman. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he was like 21 years old. [SPEAKER_04]: It was right after Thanksgiving and some woman married woman.

[SPEAKER_04]: He was flirting with. [SPEAKER_04]: And well, you know, you're anything with him, but he was flirting. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I can tell 1938. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's that's a big no-no. [SPEAKER_04]: That's that's a and I mean, look at him. [SPEAKER_04]: He's so pretty. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was a married woman and he got pop. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, everybody with Sean's correction was not correct.

[SPEAKER_07]: I will change it as long as you can change it after it's published. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how to do that. [SPEAKER_07]: The magic that I know how to do with my girlfriend's stuff like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: This is a real mugshot. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not from a movie. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a real mugshot. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I thought it was. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, you guys know.

[SPEAKER_07]: For the drink of the day, we are talking about Frank Sinatra because today is his birthday. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, born on December 15th, 15th, 15th, 15th in Hoboken, which ever since I was a little kid, I have always in my brain, I don't know why. [SPEAKER_04]: Wait, December 15th is wrong. [SPEAKER_04]: It's December 12th. [SPEAKER_07]: This is birth December 12th. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: You put 15th.

[SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why I put 15th. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know why I put it here. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll change it. [SPEAKER_04]: Today is December 12th. [SPEAKER_04]: This is yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Today is December 12th. [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, so his birthday was December 12th. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, there you go. [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_07]: There we go. [SPEAKER_04]: It's changed. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: You're so great.

[SPEAKER_07]: The magic of the internet. [SPEAKER_07]: Ah, I do what I can. [SPEAKER_07]: See, look, we aim the police here and I aim when I fix that. [SPEAKER_07]: That's good. [SPEAKER_07]: We've got to fix the things. [SPEAKER_07]: But the point is, is that he was born in Hoboken and I have always laughed about it because Hoboken when I was a kid. [SPEAKER_07]: I, I didn't know what a whole was not that kind of whole book and right I know, but I thought it was whole broken.

[SPEAKER_07]: Really literally until until I got older, I thought it was whole broken and it was I think it was might have been like fourth grade or something and I was like, whole broken and a friend of mine is like, no, no, she's she's good. [SPEAKER_07]: And I was like, what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, [SPEAKER_07]: Boken. [SPEAKER_07]: Now, Hobroken. [SPEAKER_07]: He said, oh, oh, I guess it is spelled out the R. Yes, it is.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so he's a New Jersey boy. [SPEAKER_04]: He is a Jersey boy. [SPEAKER_04]: He was very proud of Hobroken. [SPEAKER_04]: He really was. [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_04]: His dad was Anthony Martin Sonatra and his mom was Natalina. [SPEAKER_07]: That's right. [SPEAKER_07]: They were immigrants folks. [SPEAKER_07]: That's right. [SPEAKER_07]: Frank Sinatra, the child of immigrants. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: You don't like immigrants.

[SPEAKER_07]: Then you probably shouldn't say nothing about Frank Sinatra, just saying. [SPEAKER_04]: And I learned something about him that apparently had a perforated ear drum from birth. [SPEAKER_04]: So the fact that he could sing like he did. [SPEAKER_07]: With one ear. [SPEAKER_04]: With one good ear. [SPEAKER_04]: With one good eye. [SPEAKER_04]: With one good ear. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Me peatows and can still sing.

[SPEAKER_04]: But he blew his ear out when he was in his, you know,

[SPEAKER_07]: late 20s that happened at the smother's brothers when Keith put too much gunpowder right and then he blew up the satin it blew out pizier right but no yeah from from for Frank Sinatra had all of that that's that's that's that's one of those fun things it's it's always fun when you guys work together on on stuff like this and we do to make sure you guys get this by the way what is the drink of the day we know that it's

[SPEAKER_04]: the Frank's way to cocktail which I mean of course it's his way duh it's also known as the three two one okay I'm so all you need it's like the easiest drink we've had so far to make you need an old session seriously you need an old fashioned glass some ice a bottle of jack Daniels bonded not jack Daniels number seven [SPEAKER_07]: the actual the bond of the good stuff, the good stuff, the really good stuff.

[SPEAKER_07]: You have to pay a little bit extra for it, but it's worth it if you like it. [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: And so what you do is you play three rocks, glasses, three rocks is, in fact, the ice into the old fashioned glass, or two fingers of jack. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, children, that means the height of two fingers. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And then you add a splash of water. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and that's it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's basically it's just gonna rock.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's just shot a jack on the rocks. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: With a splash of water. [SPEAKER_04]: With a splash of water, you don't have to. [SPEAKER_04]: It's optional, but I agree with it. [SPEAKER_07]: Bye, Ray, my wife's grandma. [SPEAKER_07]: That is grandma Nita. [SPEAKER_07]: That is exactly how she liked her jack was with the honor rocks with a splash of water. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And but I love this story with Diana Shore and Dean Martin.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, there is there is another part of the drink of the day today that actually is really good. [SPEAKER_07]: So I was able to get the letters themselves so that was I was I was kind of surprised. [SPEAKER_07]: I thought that was very cool that you got that from the the pages from the cookbook are here. [SPEAKER_07]: So uh, don't tell them about it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's good for it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So in 1967, the year I was born, uh, done a sure put together a celebrity cookbook titled Cooking with the Stars. [SPEAKER_04]: So she asked a bunch of people, especially golfers. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, makes sense. [SPEAKER_04]: She has Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra to both submit recipes. [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: So Dean's recipe is, and it's on his letterhead. [SPEAKER_04]: It's as Martin Burgers, a pound of ground beef. [SPEAKER_04]: Two ounces of bourbon chilled.

[SPEAKER_04]: So that's right there. [SPEAKER_04]: You pre-heat a frying pan and sprinkle the bottom lightly with table salt. [SPEAKER_04]: Mix the meat handling lightly just enough to form four patties. [SPEAKER_04]: Grill over a medium-high heat about four minutes on each side. [SPEAKER_04]: Poor children bourbon and a chilled shot glass and serve meat and bourbon on a TV tray sounds good. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so so Dean Martin's is you know burgers and bourbon That's that's his recipe.

[SPEAKER_04]: This was fine. [SPEAKER_04]: Trace of me. [SPEAKER_04]: So not Trace was called Dino Tell him to make you an F and burger And drink his bourbon

[SPEAKER_07]: on his letter into it says that so it's very well played German well played it's funny I mean those two were such close friends and yes my dad worked for Dina Shore and my best friend's dad was Dean Martin so I'll see that's really cool that's that's that's that's one of those kind of fun things where look you mean you know because because of the people that you know that your parents knew that you knew some of the the rat pack that's kind of cool that's I knew Mr. Davis Jr. as well I met him

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, and obviously, as your mom said, which we will put to that interview with your mom from earlier this year. [SPEAKER_07]: You were the first favorite sketches we talked about that, actually. [SPEAKER_07]: I love that. [SPEAKER_07]: I love that your mom talked about. [SPEAKER_07]: Your mom is, your mom is great. [SPEAKER_07]: Tell your mom I said, hello. [SPEAKER_07]: I love that. [SPEAKER_07]: She's great.

[SPEAKER_07]: Anyway, if you missed any part of the drink of the day today, we didn't do it by the book. [SPEAKER_07]: We did it a little bit back and forth, but you know what, we do that sometimes. [SPEAKER_07]: And you can always catch up on all of it yourself regardless of what you're doing. [SPEAKER_07]: Just subscribe to it with the politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_07]: All righty, looking today in the news on tap down in the entertainment section and us now has a new announcement.

[SPEAKER_07]: I had this. [SPEAKER_07]: I saw this this morning. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe it was a drama and K part announced. [SPEAKER_07]: They're going to have a prime time special on the 18th and leave next week with Michelle Obama. [SPEAKER_07]: time you get Michelle on camera talk and I'm good with that so that you got for her for the news she's so pretty she's beautiful she's Michelle.

[SPEAKER_07]: Michelle Obama is absolutely I don't know if you saw there's a video making this way around this week because Barack was back in Chicago and he went to his barber that he's known for like 30 some odd years.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I gave him a nice tram and I was just like [SPEAKER_07]: It's always nice when you get back over the holidays or any time when you get back home and you get back to your neighborhood and you get to see some of the people you know when it's kind of cool when they're still doing the stuff, you know, like your favorite barber or still doing a barber thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Actually, I found out that, um, barber that I had known for, um, god, let's see, I'm 50 something.

[SPEAKER_07]: Over half my life, um, when I live back in Lincoln for a long time, he used to cut my hair. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, he finally retired this year. [SPEAKER_12]: Nice. [SPEAKER_07]: So. [SPEAKER_07]: hats off to you, sir. [SPEAKER_07]: I much, much appreciate. [SPEAKER_07]: We used to joke because his son-in-law. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's his daughter. [SPEAKER_07]: And I used to joke with my barber, given crap when I was coming up as a teenager.

[SPEAKER_07]: And then, as a young man, when I came back from Navy and I was living there in Nebraska, whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: And I'd be like, so, you know, how's your daughter? [SPEAKER_07]: And he'd be like, I got a razor to your head. [SPEAKER_07]: And I said, I know, I said, so how's your daughter? [SPEAKER_07]: You'd be like, [SPEAKER_07]: You know, just give him grief about it. [SPEAKER_07]: So it's it's fun to see the people in your own neighborhood. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_07]: Barack did that. [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe maybe we'll we'll put that on some of our social media. [SPEAKER_04]: Is this uh, I saw the secret service come in first and then he just sent her down and of course, you know, sent us in and does his thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Does his walk with his show he's yet. [SPEAKER_07]: Barack, that's that's great. [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, by the way, um, uh, Heisman finalists, uh, the Heisman is going to be awarded, uh, Saturday tomorrow night.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you're one of our future people and you're listening on Saturday, that, yeah, Joe, these eyes have been posed. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, you know, I, I'm not, I'm not necessarily big into those words. [SPEAKER_07]: I am big into the volleyball thing. [SPEAKER_07]: We don't have a story. [SPEAKER_07]: You won't have to happen about that. [SPEAKER_07]: Show to the ladies. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you know, I'm telling you your shirts.

[SPEAKER_07]: it is literally on my sure huster volleyball right now there are obviously playing the the tournaments when i have out of here this evening after this game should be on i think depending on what time you're listening but hopefully the game will be on now it'll go quick because it's Nebraska it'll be three sets and that's just how we do it because we're number one ranked and undefeated as Charlie Pierce mentioned earlier this week so just say i'm hoping [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's good. [SPEAKER_07]: I do the same thing. [SPEAKER_07]: I do the same thing. [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, if you're watching football last night, 37-year-old Drampock, what I'm quote, Kirk Cousins. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what they call him. [SPEAKER_07]: I guess 37 is old for the NFL these days. [SPEAKER_07]: So, I don't know. [SPEAKER_07]: He led the Atlanta Falcons to a 29-28 comeback victory over the Tampa Bay. [SPEAKER_07]: Fucking ears.

[SPEAKER_04]: That's a tough comeback, man. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and also the fact that, I mean, 37 is, you got a few more years in the NFL. [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, Warren Moon played it. [SPEAKER_04]: Think it to his 41 or 42, but that was years ago. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: These days, it's, you don't get many to get to the 40s doing that. [SPEAKER_04]: Especially these guys are so much bigger. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: Also Lindsey Vaughn, by the way, she's 41.

[SPEAKER_07]: One her first work up downhill race. [SPEAKER_07]: She's decided to come back. [SPEAKER_07]: And of course, she's coming back just in advance of the Olympics, because she's going to go. [SPEAKER_07]: play for team USA so that's going to be pretty cool. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but nobody will be at the Olympics in the summer because Donald doesn't want people coming in from other countries. [SPEAKER_07]: The whole immigration thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: That is definitely something we got to talk about with Karen and Anita. [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_07]: That is, that's just so. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's all because of Donald's freaking ego. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: It is all because of his, and well, that and the fact that Stephen Miller all, our friend Rebecca, who we had here a couple times this year here in the bar, I got to tell you, I was talking with her last night, there's a thing about Donald's hand.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, we were, we were talking with, uh, who was it? [SPEAKER_07]: We talked with Kimberly about that this week. [SPEAKER_07]: I think we mentioned it with John. [SPEAKER_07]: We might have mentioned it with Charlie earlier this week. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, got some information on this from her. [SPEAKER_07]: And you said the defendant of yours happens to be talking about it in the green. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_07]: So we're going, we're going to have to talk about that, that thing that's on Donnie's hand and what some people are using informed speculation about. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: to say that you know there's some issues with Donald's health. [SPEAKER_07]: So we're definitely talking about that. [SPEAKER_07]: More of the news on tap on the way as we mentioned, Karen and Anita from True Blue politics coming in as well.

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[SPEAKER_07]: We will recap all of it hanging out with you guys this evening. [SPEAKER_07]: Here's politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Karen and Anita of True Blue politics will be in very shortly. [SPEAKER_08]: Very soon. [SPEAKER_07]: And, uh, oh man, you know what? [SPEAKER_07]: I should have put up the decorations for the holiday stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well we have next week. [SPEAKER_04]: We have next week. [SPEAKER_07]: This is true. [SPEAKER_07]: This is true.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll put up the holiday decorations in the bar for next week. [SPEAKER_07]: We just didn't do it today. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's you get busy. [SPEAKER_07]: You get things happen and we understand that's why some of you are listening on the radio and some of you are listening on the podcast for those of you listening on the radio. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: By the way, all of you listening on our great radio affiliates.

[SPEAKER_07]: Whether you happen to be listening to us on George now, ready in the ATL or WCPTA in May 2020. [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe you are listening in Minneapolis St. Paul on AM950 or listening on the detour talk in Tennessee. [SPEAKER_07]: Progressive Voices Radio Worldwide, wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_07]: All right, Jody, it is, man, it's, it has been a long week.

[SPEAKER_07]: There's been obviously some personal stuff this way, my pup Kiwi and Jim Ward, and then my friend from last week, just, a lot of too, too many, too many losses. [SPEAKER_07]: My stepdad earlier this year, too, too many losses that way. [SPEAKER_07]: But we had had some good wins. [SPEAKER_07]: The fall elections were really good. [SPEAKER_07]: And the elections this week were really, really good. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I'm I'm I don't know about you.

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking forward actually to some to some degree at Sometimes it gets to this time of year a little bit trepidacious when it you look forward and you're like, oh, I don't know. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: Like what was it a year ago? [SPEAKER_07]: I was going, no, no, no, not again, not again. [SPEAKER_07]: We did we did four years of this this up. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's it's We can't do another four years.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean the last time he started losing so badly was the third year of his first term. [SPEAKER_04]: He's already losing now. [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: He's getting his ass whipped now, and his health. [SPEAKER_04]: His health is not good. [SPEAKER_04]: He's not a healthy man. [SPEAKER_07]: No. [SPEAKER_07]: So Rebecca Buckwell to pose our friend who was the legal lady who was fantastic.

[SPEAKER_07]: Well, we should get her in here after the first of the year and talk about some of the legal stuff because she's great too. [SPEAKER_07]: Um, as you know, I'm listing a whole bunch of lawyers earlier. [SPEAKER_07]: We listed some of the first hour, we're listing some now because we have a lot of lawyers that hang out at the bar. [SPEAKER_04]: We used to, we got lawyers. [SPEAKER_07]: We got lawyers. [SPEAKER_07]: No mess with us. [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway.

[SPEAKER_07]: So we was talking with Rebecca on the phone last night and we were talking about the Donning's hand. [SPEAKER_07]: And the fact that it's got that that that that Mark and she said that a friend of hers who was involved in medical stuff, I guess, was saying, you know, there is this Alzheimer prevention drug that they are, and as you guys know, Jim Ward had early on said, also he did so it's like,

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's my because Bob keeps asking why does he have Bandates over his hand now and I think there's an actual port that he's covering up so you think they've all that you think they've already put a port in because it okay as I think I said yesterday when I was in the hospital, they changed my IV every two days right because they don't care and that's normal because they don't want your vein to get screwed up right it's a thing and so the fact that when you have a port and it's a different kind of situation

[SPEAKER_07]: For those of you who don't know, a port is basically it's a semi-permanent needle, if you will. [SPEAKER_04]: Pretty much, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: It's the receptacle part. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: They give them a lot of cancer patients get them. [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_07]: And sometimes they'll put it maybe in your chest under your shirt, or obviously Donald wouldn't want that. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's, you know.

[SPEAKER_07]: So whatever, but yeah, that is it's entirely possible that they could be put that he could have a port and that they're putting this medication in there, which it's entirely likely if he's got [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, look who's here! [SPEAKER_07]: Yay! [SPEAKER_07]: Karen and Anita both of them and Angel are looking real good tonight. [SPEAKER_07]: How you doing? [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry you gave us the decorations of the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We didn't put them up.

[SPEAKER_07]: We meant to do it Karen, but it's okay. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very hamster. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very amateur. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very amateur. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very amateur. [SPEAKER_07]: It looks good. [SPEAKER_07]: It looks good. [SPEAKER_07]: We didn't mean that. [SPEAKER_07]: We meant to hang them. [SPEAKER_07]: You know, we just didn't. [SPEAKER_07]: So we will hang them for next week. [SPEAKER_03]: Like this plan seems to be floating. [SPEAKER_03]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to do that next week. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to have my Christmas tree and my mantle and all that. [SPEAKER_02]: This is exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: We've got to spice things up for the holidays. [SPEAKER_07]: How are you doing? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Christmas weather. [SPEAKER_02]: No, that is not. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm going to wear my next week. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I got it. [SPEAKER_07]: That makes sense.

[SPEAKER_07]: So how's the week been for you, too? [SPEAKER_03]: It's been okay, it's been, well, I mean, it's been an event full as always with the Trump regime, right? [SPEAKER_03]: We get sad about the news with Jim Moore's saying, yeah, we just talked about that. [SPEAKER_07]: And my pup unfortunately, Kiwi. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I spent last week in my wife and I spent last week in most of it, uh, run them back and forth with different veterinarians and stuff.

[UNKNOWN]: And, [SPEAKER_07]: Well, how was he, he was he was 13 something wasn't he was just it was a sudden yeah very yeah had had two seizures within a six hour period and he didn't eat eat. [SPEAKER_07]: we don't know exactly what it was. [SPEAKER_07]: They did a whole bunch of scams of his, his, everything from the neck down. [SPEAKER_07]: And he was very healthy for a 13 year old that way. [SPEAKER_07]: But obviously there was something in the brain or whatever.

[SPEAKER_07]: And, and his, I mean, if he did be the, you know, age change from 20 plus pound dog to, you know, human or whatever, he was probably and would have been a human in his 80s with a heart murmur. [SPEAKER_02]: And you kind of dog was he he was a cock-a-poo. [SPEAKER_07]: Poodle Cocker Spaniards. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, let's let little black boys There was my pharyngees. [SPEAKER_03]: I had a pharyngees. [SPEAKER_03]: It was a cock-a-poo Lucy.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was adorable. [SPEAKER_07]: He was very good boy. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: Great dogs. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's been a hard week between that and Jim and then my friend Alan last week who died of very quick cancer pancreatic cancer. [SPEAKER_07]: So it's been a tough tough here after Thanksgiving already and I'm like, uh, you know, but There's hard when they did when people died and had died this time of year.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: This time of year is is definitely this is one of those where I'm like [SPEAKER_07]: If anybody had knows anybody or you know, just everybody forgot to say, stay alive to a good day, stay alive. [SPEAKER_02]: It's yeah, my mother died December 14th. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, the same day of Sandy Hook, which happened on December 14th. [SPEAKER_07]: Literally the same day. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it was the same day December 14th.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I was already, I was pretty, I was pretty, right. [SPEAKER_02]: But I was already, you know, it's already a bad day. [SPEAKER_02]: And I always think about that, both of those things.

[SPEAKER_07]: yeah every year just just one of those things but it was it was kind of hard so so but I you know we we have been trying to focus on some of the positive stuff and uh it was absolutely positive what happened in Indiana last night yes that was fantastic that was fantastic I know and then plus we have the elections um hmm [SPEAKER_02]: Just because the election of Florida, the mayor was in the front off. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, but she, she won.

[SPEAKER_07]: There was election in Albuquerque, all for, for election stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: I do recommend going to boltsmag.org to kneel over there is really great about all the election stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: And a hearing under seat in Georgia, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Democrats flipped.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: It was, it had been Republican for ages and ages and ages and then I think 30 years [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was they Jerry Mandarin it to be Republican and that didn't matter, and I think that's a sign of things to come. [SPEAKER_02]: I think here in Texas, for instance, I think that's their Jerry Mandarin, they're a little, you know.

[SPEAKER_07]: We've been talking about that whole, the redistricting wars are absolutely not in Republicans' favor. [SPEAKER_02]: It was hilarious. [SPEAKER_07]: So they're deluding Republican districts and then they're there with the assumption that well, there's there's even more than there's even more than that seriously so here's here's the deal We have the the redistricting war section. [SPEAKER_07]: It's in the fourth round of the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I need to I mean Obviously the text thing you know about you're talking about that how Colin all right is is running for the house again Yeah, those those seats are not going to go Republican as they thought but of course Indiana Republicans in the Indiana Senate [SPEAKER_07]: voted 31 to 19, not a small. [SPEAKER_02]: I know, it was amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Lieutenant Governor confirmed.

[SPEAKER_07]: You and I were talking about this earlier, Jody, that Donald Trump had actually been threatening federal funding. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he did. [SPEAKER_02]: And the Heritage Foundation came out and threatened them. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: We saw that too. [SPEAKER_07]: That was bad. [SPEAKER_07]: So, but there's more. [SPEAKER_07]: So, the Maryland House and Senate leaders, they've confirmed that Registria is not on the docket for their special session.

[SPEAKER_07]: They've got a special session starting next week. [SPEAKER_07]: It's not on the docket for them. [SPEAKER_07]: But the Democratic leaders in that state, like Governor Moore, say that it's not dead in Maryland yet. [SPEAKER_07]: And then you add in the fact that Wisconsin is a new player coming in. [SPEAKER_07]: Virginia, Virginia coming in as well. [SPEAKER_07]: It is it is huge. [SPEAKER_07]: We got a little, little thing, Harry Anton was talking about this this morning.

[SPEAKER_07]: We threw this up on the DVR. [SPEAKER_05]: these redistricting wars with the idea, hey, this could give us an edge going into the 2026 midterm elections, which normally go against the White House party, you know, it's basically turned into a nothing burger, because like likely redistricting gains for 2026, we got the Democratic gains on the left side, we got the Republican gains on the right side, Democrats.

[SPEAKER_05]: five in California, one in Utah because of Supreme Court, and then Texas, four for Republicans, Missouri, one, North Carolina, one, Ohio, one, that seven, that six, it's basically turned out into a wash, maybe Republicans plus one seat, but the bottom line is, Donald Trump made us go through all of this, and the end result is, it really doesn't change all that much. [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_05]: But then Jerry mattered five seats here in Texas.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right, but you're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_04]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to win them.

[SPEAKER_07]: And Harriet is doing it at the time right now, but in fact, Democrats in Missouri are pushing back Republicans may not get that one in Missouri, so at that point it would be for looking at Harry's math, it would be Democrats get six and Republicans get six, but then they haven't even added in the four extra seats that might happen from Virginia, they haven't added in it might be two extra seats in Wisconsin for Democrats.

[SPEAKER_07]: So at that point, it's Democrats plus 12 Republicans plus six. [SPEAKER_07]: That means a net of six seats for Democrats. [SPEAKER_07]: And it's all because Democrats stood up finally back. [SPEAKER_07]: That's right, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're going to lose those seats in Texas. [SPEAKER_02]: I keep saying that because they are.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they deleted the Republican seats and they, they, they, they, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there are, there

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, even in that race in Florida, we had that woman win because she got Cuban and Venezuela in both. [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly, 20, well, my team technically, I think it's almost 20 points in Miami for the first time. [SPEAKER_07]: That was also the first time in 30 years. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: And New Jersey and Virginia, Latinos came out for Democrats.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_07]: Because other things, Democrats are treating them with respect and Democrats are saying, look, I know what you want. [SPEAKER_07]: You want things to be affordable, affordable, important to you. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you want patient. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And for those people who still say, you know, well, you know, immigration is important, but I just want the people who are doing it wrong, what they want is accountability for a system that works.

[SPEAKER_07]: as we've said affordability and accountability and guess what Republicans are not for accountability they're for letting Donald drew whatever hell he wants and Democrats are for accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: And apparently we're not for affordability either. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a hoax Karen. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a hoax, that's true. [SPEAKER_02]: But what they said what they're seeing is these people being profiled like that nurse that was dressed at a record. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but that look there. [SPEAKER_07]: There have been now. [SPEAKER_07]: I've heard hundred and fifty seven. [SPEAKER_07]: Do you think fifty seven is it? [SPEAKER_02]: No, 170s American citizens. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's more far. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, no, no of right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what pro public came out of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just it's ridiculous.

[SPEAKER_02]: That only people are being dragged up from their workplaces. [SPEAKER_04]: And a woman [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, and then there was the Christy-nom thing. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, we can we call it for you guys coming next. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, it's great. [SPEAKER_07]: We got here and Anita hanging out with us here at the politics bar recap and all of the political stories for the week.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you missed any of them, look, you want to stick around and hang out and, of course, if you missed it, you can just catch us later on the podcast. [SPEAKER_07]: There you go. [SPEAKER_07]: More with Karen and Anita, Jodi and me and you. [SPEAKER_07]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: It's Friday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you very much for coming in and joining us all week long.

[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, thank you to all of our wonderful guests, including Karen and Anita of Free Love Palettes. [SPEAKER_07]: The original is both of them. [SPEAKER_07]: We love them here. [SPEAKER_07]: We love how having you guys hang out with us, and of course, you know, obviously, you know, decorating your backgrounds, hanging out in the zoom.

[SPEAKER_07]: We will obviously, in the new year, that is one of the things we're aiming to do is to make sure that we get more of the video stuff out there. [SPEAKER_07]: But if you guys want to see some of the interviews we've done, they're there on our YouTube page, YouTube.com slash at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: So there you go.

[SPEAKER_07]: All right, we were talking about this year before the break, uh, the Christy Nome thing, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, he and his people obviously planned this out for those people who missed it, we won't play the full five minutes. [SPEAKER_07]: But he actually sat there for five minutes and just he took his full five minutes, which is the amount of time that they normally get for questioning. [SPEAKER_07]: And clearly, they plan this down to about a five second window of just kicking her ass. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they did. [SPEAKER_07]: It was it was beautiful.

[SPEAKER_07]: Here's about a little more than a minute and a half of it. [SPEAKER_07]: Here it is, hang on. [SPEAKER_00]: There we go. [SPEAKER_10]: Sir, we have not deported U.S. citizens or military veterans. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe you served in the military. [SPEAKER_00]: I have neither, but I think you and I can agree that as Americans, we owe everything to those who served our country uniform, particularly those who have served in combat. [SPEAKER_00]: Do you agree with that?

[SPEAKER_10]: for I believe that people that are in this United States that are citizens have legal status here. [SPEAKER_00]: Those who are not a secretary, we are joined on Zoom by joining the United States Army from that veteran. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not twice while serving our country in Panama in 1989. [SPEAKER_00]: Like many veterans, he struggled with ESD and substance abuse after his service.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was arrested in the 1990s for some minor drug offenses, nothing serious he never hurt anyone besides himself and he's been cleaned in silver for 14 years. [SPEAKER_00]: He has a combat veteran, a horrible heart recipient. [SPEAKER_00]: He has sacrificed more for this country than most people ever have. [SPEAKER_00]: Earlier this year, you deported him to Korea. [SPEAKER_00]: A country he hasn't lived in since he was seven years old.

[SPEAKER_00]: Will you join me in thanking Mr. Park for his service to our country? [SPEAKER_10]: Sure, I'm great to feel for every single person that has served our country and follow all the law. [SPEAKER_00]: Can you please tell Mr. Park why you deported him? [SPEAKER_10]: Every one of them needs to be enforced. [SPEAKER_00]: But you understand that many veterans struggle with PTSD, many veterans struggle with substance abuse challenges.

[SPEAKER_00]: This man took two bullets for our country. [SPEAKER_00]: Well you you abroad authority by the way as secretary this is key issue humanitarian parole to to do the production. [SPEAKER_00]: We commit to at least looking at Mr. [SPEAKER_00]: Parks case to see if you can help him find a pathway back to this country that he sacrificed so much for. [SPEAKER_10]: I will absolutely look at his case, but I won't play the role. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's obviously a prosecutor. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, here's here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_07]: So she goes on after this and she's like, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

[SPEAKER_07]: also in his sixties, who had married a white woman, I believe, from Ironman, James Brown, and they had had grabbed his wife. [SPEAKER_07]: And she's basically like, you know, say thanks to the man, and then tell him, basically, you know, you're going to help get his wife back, his horse crack, she'd been here for a long time like that. [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: and then he turned to it was in L.A. [SPEAKER_07]: I believe when the ice monsters first started attacking this year, Jody and it's um he had one of the three remember the family they have three boys they were all Marines right and their father was out cutting the grass at an eye home. [SPEAKER_07]: And the ice cream crack by the bone. [SPEAKER_07]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_07]: One of those boys was standing right there. [SPEAKER_07]: And he's like, you want to say thank you?

[SPEAKER_07]: You want to say thank you? [SPEAKER_07]: You want to say thank you? [SPEAKER_07]: And you want to help him get their dad back? [SPEAKER_07]: Because he didn't turn around. [SPEAKER_07]: He's through. [SPEAKER_07]: By the time it was done, she was like, thank you for your service. [SPEAKER_07]: And she was very, very contrite, which you don't want to see from her. [SPEAKER_11]: True. [SPEAKER_07]: And then they had a break in which she's finishing. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, she went.

[SPEAKER_03]: She said, like, cartoon. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think was it hair and make up behind her? [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: She said she was going to meeting that they'd already been a castle. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know she knew it was castle. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Because they're going to come.

[SPEAKER_07]: right and it was it was a meeting actually that other people had been waiting to hear about because it was supposed to be about some of the stuff about FEMA. [SPEAKER_07]: We actually have the stories on those in the news on tap today under the war on good government section that happens being the third round today under Trump lands domestic wars. [SPEAKER_07]: It's just you want to read more about it.

[SPEAKER_07]: You absolutely should but the fact that's oh god and then while she was making an ass of herself that way there was another guy who was making an idiot of himself. [SPEAKER_07]: I won't play that one because [SPEAKER_07]: He was saying, well, we're going after Antifa, Benny Johnson was like, What's a clay? [SPEAKER_04]: What was the same? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, something clay. [SPEAKER_04]: Let's hear it. [SPEAKER_04]: Clay Glashine, I think.

[SPEAKER_04]: We've seen something like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it would be a P.I. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: And Thompson's like, so Antifa's a bad, a bad girl. [SPEAKER_07]: Where are they located? [SPEAKER_07]: Can you tell how many people are there? [SPEAKER_07]: How many people are there? [SPEAKER_04]: He's comparing them to Al Qaeda and other things is like we know where these people are We know they are a group.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like proud boys, you know, we can name them as a domestic terrorist He said they had a greatest threat to the United States, but he doesn't know where the mister I don't mean come on [SPEAKER_03]: Right, store roads. [SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about, you know, let's tell her about, and we can share the leaders of these organizations. [SPEAKER_07]: We know where they are. [SPEAKER_07]: We know where their houses are.

[SPEAKER_07]: We know where they go and they, and they do have people monitoring. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, the, uh, the.

[SPEAKER_07]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, [SPEAKER_07]: That must have been what we heard in the bar, and somebody else told me later.

[SPEAKER_07]: But I heard that there are people looking into them, and there's some of the same people looking into some of the other child born stuff that they haven't pulled off for immigration. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: So they're looking at the tape brothers. [SPEAKER_07]: Any other stuff too? [SPEAKER_07]: Any other connections to bear in Trump? [SPEAKER_07]: Apparently not. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that's their kind of scary. [SPEAKER_07]: There.

[SPEAKER_07]: I know. [SPEAKER_07]: But you're saying they're going, if this is supposed to be the biggest terror thing, look, we know where the tape brothers are, we know where tario is. [SPEAKER_07]: We know we're stewy roads. [SPEAKER_07]: It is. [SPEAKER_07]: We know all these we know where all these people are and yes, they're not great people, but you know they are out whatever they're free.

[SPEAKER_07]: We know if you think that Kilmar is bad, even though he's not thankfully he's out to where he is. [SPEAKER_07]: So, if this is supposed to be the biggest thresh thing in the United States, since Al Qaeda, and we also know where the remnants of our Canada are now, and I says all of them, we know where they are. [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to also have so many of Antifa have been convicted of [SPEAKER_02]: any kind of terrorist attack. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not. [SPEAKER_02]: It's right.

[SPEAKER_07]: It was so clearly. [SPEAKER_07]: It was just nice to see many Thompson ripped this guy a new one and just basically be like, you know, hey dude, if they're supposed to be this bad, who the hell are they? [SPEAKER_07]: How many are they? [SPEAKER_07]: And where are they? [SPEAKER_07]: And a guy's like, how many are they? [SPEAKER_07]: It's an ongoing one. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it's an ongoing investigation. [SPEAKER_07]: And then I'm betting on going to the investigation.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're building infrastructure. [SPEAKER_03]: How are they in? [SPEAKER_03]: Are they in the room with you? [SPEAKER_02]: Do you see here? [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: So they say everybody is antifa, they think anybody that opposes them is antifa. [SPEAKER_02]: And we are Exactly, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not an organization. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like well, not we are definitely not organized [SPEAKER_07]: True, exactly.

[SPEAKER_07]: But honestly, God, if I hadn't given that kind of an explanation to my mom when I was a kid or my dad, they would all walk my ass. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, Thompson even said you wouldn't lie to me, but you just did. [SPEAKER_04]: But you just did. [SPEAKER_07]: it was beautiful.

[SPEAKER_07]: It's one of those I love it when the staff would congressional staff actually sit there and they game the whole thing out and they're like we know how this person whoever they are is going to be a stooge and they're going to act like a jackass. [SPEAKER_07]: And so we're going to let them step on there. [SPEAKER_07]: You know what? [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to make some of themselves exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: We have so many great Democrats. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we do really good at this.

[SPEAKER_07]: that ever you got a couple of great ones down there this week the announcement the Jasmine Crocket is joining us for today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And Greg said that if she becomes the senator he will be in politics anymore, so it's a win win [SPEAKER_02]: She should put that in her ads. [SPEAKER_02]: She's had fantastic ads, by the way. [SPEAKER_07]: But it's one of those things where you're just like, I mean, you know, when you look at some of the wins and some of the reasons to be joyous this holiday season, that is one of them.

[SPEAKER_07]: All the wins that we've had from the elections this year, I think it was Boltzmag that said, yeah, it was, because we had that, I think Tuesday and Wednesday after the elections. [SPEAKER_07]: that's that story is in the news on tap from Wednesday. [SPEAKER_07]: The things are it was good in 2017. [SPEAKER_07]: The year before the big blue wave in 2018. [SPEAKER_07]: And I think his measurement was something like 21 points or something shifted left for this year.

[SPEAKER_07]: And he said 2017 it was 20. [SPEAKER_07]: So, yeah, in 2020, I think it will be. [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's going to be fantastic for us, and it's going to be horrendous for them. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, it's going to be so bad. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he did like in the 2020, 2017. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Donald Trump was this unpopular. [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he wasn't.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he wasn't in part because there were [SPEAKER_07]: get a chance right they wanted to be a macho and he had people around him that were accidents go that he was writing the Obama economy still yes he was yes he was though yeah yeah when you have competent people around you they could make you look a hell of a lot better than you are absolutely I know this all the time because I have [SPEAKER_07]: Great minds. [SPEAKER_07]: Great minds.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, yeah, he had a good economy. [SPEAKER_02]: He hadn't ruined it yet. [SPEAKER_07]: John said it last night when he was hanging out here in the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: John pointed out the fact that, look, when Obama left, when Biden left, when Clinton left, the economy was great on all of those. [SPEAKER_07]: Bush destroyed it and Trump has destroyed it twice. [SPEAKER_03]: It seems to be a pattern. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it does, doesn't it?

[SPEAKER_02]: And he was already destroying it before COVID. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: We're already going into a manufacturing recession. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, that's exactly it. [SPEAKER_07]: That's exactly it. [SPEAKER_07]: That's always Bob's biggest point is that in 2019, there was already a big manufacturing recession. [SPEAKER_03]: And 20 percent tariffs. [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. [SPEAKER_03]: Which were part of what we had to learn.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're less than a decade ago. [SPEAKER_07]: The first time around with these tariffs, when Donald Trump destroyed their markets,

[SPEAKER_07]: I'm like farmers are not dumb people but there was there was a guy with was that Monday who we had that clip, Jody was at Monday or Tuesday with which with the farmer got yeah yeah yeah who was saying so he talked to Katie turn this week and I caught the clip and I brought it in because he was talking to her must have been Tuesday and he said that the problem of the farmers is basically they put their their personal beliefs where their business should have been.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: farming is a business. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you may, you may, but it's just farmers. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of Republicans. [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these people live over them, put their own economic, their personal feelings like racism, or misogyny, or transphobia. [SPEAKER_07]: They put that where their business should have been. [SPEAKER_07]: And by doing that, they are shooting themselves in the forest.

[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like, you guys are so stupid that way. [SPEAKER_07]: And I, you know, [SPEAKER_07]: That's here. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a theory about why so many people always think the majority of people always think Republicans are better at the economy and it's usually white people that think that because they think Republicans are better for white people.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they think they think they think that's why they think Democrats come in and give special favors to minorities. [SPEAKER_07]: That's what the right wing propaganda always push. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, for if you are a rich, cis-hat, white, Christian, American, [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, especially man, man, more men than women, but even, you know, they go to jail, you know, It's not going to bridge. [SPEAKER_02]: It's middle class.

[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's definitely the rich. [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't know what middle class way people also see it that way, but I'm right, right. [SPEAKER_07]: But the middle class way people many of them don't see themselves as middle class or it's poor. [SPEAKER_07]: They see themselves as temporarily disadvantaged millionaires. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I can't remember what that famous quote that is, but that is a famous quote it, you know, with with Americans, they don't see themselves as, you know, it's it's I'll win soon. [SPEAKER_07]: I win the power ball. [SPEAKER_07]: I'll become rich soon. [SPEAKER_02]: After one lottery ticket away from being rich, that's what happens.

[SPEAKER_04]: Most people, a lot of people that have won huge prizes in Lotteries, they're destitute within if people come out of the woodwork and sue them, that's what they're probably. [SPEAKER_04]: And secondly, they just don't know how to manage it. [SPEAKER_04]: And like, dude, it's first off you have six months set up a trust. [SPEAKER_04]: Don't tell anybody you want to. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's a lot of things you don't do.

[SPEAKER_07]: The group, if I think it was a dozen, that's one the power ball here. [SPEAKER_07]: This must have been 10, 12 years ago. [SPEAKER_07]: They were from Lincoln. [SPEAKER_07]: They worked at a meat packing plant.

[SPEAKER_07]: and I knew some of them were were listeners of classic rock station that used to be on whatever they actually got down with like as a group and then with individuals that got financial planners and everything there were at least I think two or three of them that continued even after it had been announced and after they'd won they went to work

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because they knew that if they quit, they would screw the people who were on the line that they worked with and they didn't want to screw their fellow workers. [SPEAKER_07]: And most of those people have kept their money and they've just done very nice, quiet things and just kept the way to it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I did. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but I only do the fourth. [SPEAKER_07]: See, we should all just be like Karen, geez, come on.

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[SPEAKER_07]: We've been talking about the people who were hanging out It was a busy week here at the bar one it was Yeah, obviously uh, you know, we had Malcolm back which was great. [SPEAKER_07]: We love us. [SPEAKER_07]: We had Tuesday Tuesday. [SPEAKER_07]: You and Charlie Charby they're here. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, we have a lot to say as well We've had it twice all right. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what up?

[SPEAKER_07]: That's why we have that chart you guys can check that out in Tuesday's news on tap in the guest section. [SPEAKER_07]: All right. [SPEAKER_07]: So obviously what's what kind of caught your attention this week for either of you. [SPEAKER_07]: Anita Karen what's what else caught your attention that we haven't talked because we've hit so many the topics for this week already. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I talk about the pictures.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: We could talk about the pictures. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a problem with the pictures being released today. [SPEAKER_07]: More pictures were this week. [SPEAKER_07]: I have a problem with the way that the media handles it or miss handles it. [SPEAKER_07]: One of my media mentors. [SPEAKER_07]: And I've talked about this in the bar here before. [SPEAKER_07]: It's something called fire sign journalism.

[SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_07]: It's looking, look, look, look. [SPEAKER_07]: Here's the picture. [SPEAKER_07]: And you say, or here's the video. [SPEAKER_07]: Look at the video. [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, this person is getting beaten by the cops. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, well, you already could have told me. [SPEAKER_07]: You said that somebody who's getting beaten by the cops that they shouldn't have been beaten You gave me the facts What value is it?

[SPEAKER_07]: What value is it to show it not once not twice but over and over and over and over and over and over and over But Sean, I mean think about what happened in George Floyd. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay That video was important for people to watch. [SPEAKER_02]: It was hard to watch [SPEAKER_02]: I don't disagree with that. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think there's value in showing it to people. [SPEAKER_02]: I agree over and over again, because there are some people that may have missed it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Or we're just not, I didn't watch it for a long time because it was disgusting. [SPEAKER_02]: And it was very difficult for me. [SPEAKER_07]: But as somebody who's especially stayed on the news side, I mean, Joe and I both been doing media forever. [SPEAKER_07]: But on the news side, especially, I know when they're doing this.

[SPEAKER_07]: And what they're doing is, [SPEAKER_07]: it's the holidays and we've already half as mailed it in and we don't really want to focus on some of the more difficult stuff like the like the stuff we talk about with the world. [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is pretty difficult. [SPEAKER_03]: I think you do. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's difficult subject if they would tackle the difficult part of the subject. [SPEAKER_07]: They're not tackling it.

[SPEAKER_07]: They're like look we have new pictures and then you say okay well what does this mean and they go but look we have new pictures. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is more proof and tangible proof. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not like, oh, we know this. [SPEAKER_04]: Now we have more pictures. [SPEAKER_04]: We don't just have the ones that we already have. [SPEAKER_04]: We have newer ones with children versus adults at a party. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's different.

[SPEAKER_04]: And this is this is stuff that you would put in a trial. [SPEAKER_04]: This is evidence. [SPEAKER_02]: That's right. [SPEAKER_02]: It's unveiling the truth little by little. [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, and all the things that you guys said are actually they add value to that discussion, but that's not the discussion that you're seeing on like CNN or MS now or the ABC streamer. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even count the CBS. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why we don't watch them anymore.

[SPEAKER_07]: But whether whether you watch it or not, the majority of the United States does, that's what most people are seeing. [SPEAKER_07]: And what most people are seeing right now is, look at, look at, look at picture and you say, okay, but what's the meaning behind it and they go, we got something else to deal with.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I'm like, that's the thing that bothers me is if you're gonna bring something like that out, you need to take the time to have the difficult discussion that goes along with it. [SPEAKER_07]: And they're bringing it out, not to have the difficult discussion. [SPEAKER_07]: They're bringing it out because the truth of the matter is, I'm already on holiday and I don't wanna do anything.

[SPEAKER_02]: So picture picture picture, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at

[SPEAKER_07]: that would that but that's not one that I've actually seen a lot of them flashing what they're flashing is well we've learned out these other faces and oh here's another one of abstine with somebody that you already knew that he was friends with and then here's another one of abstine with another somebody that you already knew he was friends with oh when we got to get the mandatory bill Clinton one which we air right after we put up the one with Donald Trump right then so that it waters down the down the down that's the one that we want

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I definitely agree with that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that didn't say anything either. [SPEAKER_02]: That didn't say anything because Bill couldn't standing there. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: With like, there's like no one knew that. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like Bill Clinton with like five people. [SPEAKER_07]: It's like, it gets kids. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you have Donald Trump with a bunch of girls who have, you know, that are, you know, that are.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they're fast between the two. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a pride. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a problem with him. [SPEAKER_07]: And I think it's good. [SPEAKER_07]: But if you're going to actually air it. [SPEAKER_07]: do it. [SPEAKER_07]: If you're going to do it, by God, do it. [SPEAKER_07]: If you're going to do it, have the difficult discussions. [SPEAKER_07]: And more. [SPEAKER_07]: Don't do it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Don't give me two minutes of showing me these pictures, many of them three times and not many pictures. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's just the beginning. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that this is 95,000. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And this is all from the abstinence state. [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't even from the five and they're using that to force their hand to release these exact same files and also if they're going to have to do it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they can try not to, but there's already, who is the, the, the Republican who was working with, yes, Thomas Massey is saying that him and some of the legal counsel that has been working on it. [SPEAKER_07]: So obviously some of his staffers and things who've been working on it. [SPEAKER_07]: They're not going to give away the ghost, but they say that there is stuff that ties to criminal law because of the law that they passed with this. [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: I know I heard that. [SPEAKER_07]: And that if the Trump DOJ doesn't, they will and that they have the ability to enforce criminal law, but he specifically saying, we're not gonna tell you what it is because if we tell you what it is, pardon me, that the Trump DOJ will obviously try to counteract it. [SPEAKER_04]: So, well, that's my question. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, what's your question?

[SPEAKER_04]: My question is, [SPEAKER_04]: If there's a criminal complaint, who do they refer it to? [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a kind of question that some of the news media people have actually asked. [SPEAKER_07]: Thankfully, there have been a few people who've been trying to dig in a little bit. [SPEAKER_07]: Not necessarily the presenters, but at least some of the journalists are going, well, okay.

[SPEAKER_07]: you know how would you do it and right now mass he is not saying but those that's the kind of substantive stuff that I'm like okay showing the pictures and then show them you know get me some substance but most of them are not doing the substance and that as as somebody who is journalist by degree and by trade and and that's the kind of thing that always pisses me off because I'm like if you're going to do it do it I would there were so many a couple things I said this week if you're going to if you're going to be bad be good

[SPEAKER_02]: If you're good at being good at it, I'm also concerned about all these reductions of Donald Trump's name. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all these FBI agents that were paid over time. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's it. [SPEAKER_07]: How was it? [SPEAKER_07]: Allison Gil was the first one to bring that out. [SPEAKER_07]: Always look at it for that. [SPEAKER_07]: You bet. [SPEAKER_02]: What are we going to do about that?

[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the reasons why they're threatening to release these 95,000 pictures. [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe you'll tell us a little bit more. [SPEAKER_02]: A lot more. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, we'll find out, but it's definitely it's just it's more of a media media thing than anything else. [SPEAKER_07]: It's just the fact that I wish that so many of our colleagues who are in the the mainstream media.

[SPEAKER_07]: And I call it mainstream because I mean, there's corporations in a lot of places and some of we're nonprofit and whatever. [SPEAKER_07]: But, and I know that Richard and I have a, you know, we think different things on that and that's fine. [SPEAKER_07]: We can everybody can think different things on that. [SPEAKER_07]: But my whole thing is just the fact that [SPEAKER_07]: the media that most people get. [SPEAKER_07]: All they're getting is a few of these flashes of pictures.

[SPEAKER_07]: See Donald did it and so did Bill. [SPEAKER_07]: So it must be okay. [SPEAKER_02]: All of a sudden I said no. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I know the whole thing about Bill Clinton the way that they kind of just trashed him. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even look at without anybody actually accusing him of any of any of these ads. [SPEAKER_07]: Right, exactly in this point, I mean, I, you know, um, we, we all treated Monica Winsky as a society really, really, really badly in the 90s.

[SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: And the media, the media treated her terribly. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the price that this is. [SPEAKER_07]: Is that even even she is like, come on, guys, this is ridiculous. [SPEAKER_07]: No, she's, she's amazing. [SPEAKER_07]: So I think most people of good sense are like, okay, give me a break.

[SPEAKER_07]: You know, if you're going to show Bill, yeah, fine, but, you know, what did he do? [SPEAKER_07]: And... [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: He's standing there in a picture and he was in a picture already with a group of other people Right, and we know we know he was working with the Clinton foundation.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and Jeffrey Epstein donated to a lot of these different charities and there was a lot of people that you know got involved with him to that and that was the only thing that they were doing with him right so it's [SPEAKER_07]: We need more details. [SPEAKER_07]: Hopefully after the holidays, we will get more of those kinds of details. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to really be interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Donnie doesn't really wreck. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's going to wreck.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how are they breaking out? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is. [SPEAKER_07]: Y'all are right about that. [SPEAKER_07]: And it absolutely did this, you know, anything about this freaks him out. [SPEAKER_07]: But I think he is. [SPEAKER_07]: So we discussed this early before you guys got in the bar. [SPEAKER_07]: We were talking about his health.

[SPEAKER_07]: We talked to I talked to my friend Rebecca and she's she's we had her in the bar here earlier this year and and she talked to a medical friend of hers She thinks that not only is there a port on his hand as you were saying earlier, Jody, but her medical friend thinks that there is that he's getting a and Alzheimer's suppression drug. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, what I've heard.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why it's happening every week or two or and there's a medication that you can get. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that does that and they have to have constant MRIs and there's a team of people meeting with him for his cognitive tests. [SPEAKER_04]: I know, because I know like 17 people in the room for the fact that I tried the way everything's good.

[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, he keeps talking about these cognitive tests that he's passed with flying colors. [SPEAKER_02]: How do we know that? [SPEAKER_02]: A plus plus plus plus. [SPEAKER_02]: We've never seen it before. [SPEAKER_02]: Why did he release the cognitive test? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is not it. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not even that. [SPEAKER_04]: I think he thinks these are IQ tests. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he does.

[SPEAKER_02]: He does, obviously, because he says our smarty is he's fast to get flying colors. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's a pass fail. [SPEAKER_07]: So we would hope so. [SPEAKER_02]: He tells reporters that he doesn't like I've had the cognitive test and you couldn't pass it. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he makes him smart. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's smart. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm smart. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm smart. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm smart.

[SPEAKER_03]: By the time you get to, well, that's proof that he's stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And by the time you get to the 25th one, it gets really hard. [SPEAKER_02]: It's nothing. [SPEAKER_02]: You have to differentiate between a camel and an elephant. [SPEAKER_02]: You have to try a table. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, because we don't. [SPEAKER_07]: Donald Trump doesn't know his head from his own ass. [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that is different.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He's got to be one of the dumbest people I've ever seen in politics. [SPEAKER_07]: And one of the dumbest people who's ever been sitting in the White House. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, for sure. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we don't know bad companies, yeah, we're narcissistic sociopaths. [SPEAKER_02]: You get it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's stupid narcissistic sociopaths, which is a terrible comment.

[SPEAKER_07]: We're definitely, we can talk a little bit more about this in the after hours. [SPEAKER_07]: If you guys have a little more time, I know it's cold in certain areas. [SPEAKER_07]: Chicago is a little cold Texas and little cold right now, but yeah, yeah, it's not as, it's not as warmer this is in LA. [SPEAKER_02]: I remember when I was a kid, it's not on Christmas itself. [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. [SPEAKER_04]: It didn't last long, but it did stuck for a week and an hour.

[SPEAKER_07]: We can talk about it more in the after hours. [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to say Karen and Anita into the after hours. [SPEAKER_07]: If you want to hear more with them. [SPEAKER_07]: Obviously, you could check out the after hours later at the politics bar.com or you can check out true blue politics on your favorite podcast platform. [SPEAKER_07]: Karen and Anita. [SPEAKER_07]: We love having you guys here. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll see you here.

[SPEAKER_07]: You guys will be our last guest before the holiday break next week. [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah. [SPEAKER_07]: That'd be pretty cool. [SPEAKER_07]: We have some good guests set up for next week. [SPEAKER_07]: We are getting ready for the holidays We will have some fresh stuff. [SPEAKER_07]: That's a great best thing to say again. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, eggnone, eggnone, eggnone Absolutely, we'll talk about that too. [SPEAKER_07]: Wrong eggnone guys. [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you very much.

[SPEAKER_07]: We'll see you back here one day night here at the politics bar