It's Not About Immigration January 29, 2026

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those days, you know, you just, the day gets away from you, you just, you're like, holy crap. [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, you got to open the bar and you're like, wait a minute, what the? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad we're heading towards the end of the week. [SPEAKER_01]: It is after all Thursday night here at politics, Mark. [SPEAKER_01]: That does mean Thursdays with Google Fang. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Hold. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, played, Jodie.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I can do that off the top of my head. [SPEAKER_01]: Just, I have to think about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Very hard. [SPEAKER_02]: That's not that hard. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to think about it. [SPEAKER_01]: I have to be a city Brady. [SPEAKER_03]: I can do that. [SPEAKER_01]: I think what did I see? [SPEAKER_01]: This was my must have been like six, eight months ago. [SPEAKER_01]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: A survey that said Mrs. Brady was the most popular of the classic TV moms. [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that Florence was a lovely lady. [SPEAKER_03]: I got to know her.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I totally believe that and I was just like it's just one of those all of a sudden you say, you know, Cindy Brady, because that my brain's a little, you know, scattered today, um, things are going to actually pretty well for the good guys, and not so well for the bad guys today, which, you know, I'm pretty happy about, but I am also pretty glad that we've got all the great people coming into the bar. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you by the way. [SPEAKER_01]: Take your coat off it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I like the fact that, you know, if you pay $6 a month, you could, you realize, if you pay a whole year in advance, you actually get a discount. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: We do that, too. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of like, um, being part of a Bible Club, just saying. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, just check it out. [SPEAKER_01]: It's there at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I knew you hung out earlier today with Bob and David. [SPEAKER_01]: I did.

[SPEAKER_01]: I did. [SPEAKER_03]: He's still a little under the weather, but he'll be fine by next week. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, good. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to check on your friends. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to make sure. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, David and I were like, dude, you can take. [SPEAKER_03]: We can take the day off. [SPEAKER_01]: And Bob's like, nope. [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, I'm just sitting here talking to my girlfriend.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, still, it takes energy. [SPEAKER_03]: It's two hours of your day. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no matter what you do, most, most kinds of work, I think, [SPEAKER_01]: difficult. [SPEAKER_01]: There is an office work that's difficult to do. [SPEAKER_01]: The only kind of work that I usually generally have some kind of disdain for. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, maybe this is just because we're like, hedge fund managers, what? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a C suite job, I generally think that it is a suite job, not just C suite, you know, meaning executive suites, CEO, COO, [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I have, you've met a number of those people over the years so of I, and I just don't think very highly of them because so many of them don't actually do a whole lot of work. [SPEAKER_01]: Their work is, okay, so this is a Hollywood thing. [SPEAKER_01]: You've seen it, you've done it, schmoozing people to get them to do something.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's hard work, I mean, you know, you, you want to put the right amount [SPEAKER_01]: English on it, you want to, you know, tell me, right, right, you know, a lot of times I've seen these executives and they're in court and court meetings and they're not doing a damn thing. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not, they're, they're, they're, they're not even putting the juicy into the smooths. [SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, I'm just here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my favorite when I used to work for a company that did corporate stuff was meetings for a meeting sake. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like what a waste of time. [SPEAKER_01]: for everybody. [SPEAKER_01]: I've been through any number of those and they drive me nuts too. [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you put it in an email, great. [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't need it, great. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the company I told you that I worked for that we, you know, were escorted up by security.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They would have this meaning now. [SPEAKER_03]: The people that I my group was just two of us. [SPEAKER_03]: We were responsible for content. [SPEAKER_03]: And we weren't ready to launch yet, so we were just kind of showing up to work not really doing a whole lot, which is why we're getting paid. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we were talking about what we wanted to do, but they would literally have a meeting.

[SPEAKER_03]: The entire group of people, the whole, everybody, the code writers, everybody, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And at five o'clock on Monday afternoon. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: That makes no sense. [SPEAKER_03]: You do that at noon or 10 a.m. You don't do it five o'clock at the end of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: because nobody wants to be there, nobody wants to be there. [SPEAKER_01]: And everybody's brains are already burnt out because they've been working.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's the end of the day. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, that's why we let people come and hang out at the bar here, kind of, you know, let your brain off and you're like, hey, did I miss anything? [SPEAKER_01]: And then we catch them up on stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: I noticed this because so this morning, first thing, Tom Holbegg, I mean, Holbegg, sorry. [SPEAKER_01]: God, I just, I don't know, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Every time I see the man, I think of Kava, I think of Kava. [SPEAKER_03]: I think of a bag with a little dollar sign on it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Kava bag, right, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Which Kava is actually really good. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have them there. [SPEAKER_01]: I have not, but so Tom Homan did his little song in dance today this morning. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've got the details on that in the news on tap today.

[SPEAKER_01]: In the first round, fighting a good fight under ice breaking. [SPEAKER_01]: So, Borders are Tom Homan said ice and CBP are crafting a drawdown plan in Minnesota. [SPEAKER_01]: And he admits, quote unquote, improvements are needed. [SPEAKER_01]: And I just sat there and I'm thinking, that is such an executive ass phrase, that is such an improvements or a needed. [SPEAKER_01]: Your workers just killed somebody.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I would hope to God that you want them to improve. [SPEAKER_01]: I would hope. [SPEAKER_01]: And not actually do that kind of thing. [UNKNOWN]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: But it was the look on his face as he's standing there. [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, if you look in the news collage because I did that today, because you know, you were verbabbed David's. [SPEAKER_01]: That look on his face that's in the news collage was pretty much his look the entire time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the same look that you see from these sea swedish oftentimes in these meetings of you really need to be here. [SPEAKER_01]: I really need to be here. [SPEAKER_01]: This is stupid. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like dude you called the meeting right and if you ask them They're like well technically my assistant called the meeting. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Good to know your assistant runs the company Anyway, and probably should by the way I think in an assistant trust me Hey, look that's as as a longtime journalist that is always my rule of thumb people are like who do you respect more the janitor of the CEO the janitor [SPEAKER_01]: Well, who do you expect more than the janitor or the assistant? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I respect them both, but I respect them both more than the CEO.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if I want information, I'll go to either one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and don't piss off an assistant. [SPEAKER_03]: You will never get to the boss. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be rude to them. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I've been lucky to deal with the assistance that have bosses that are not the nicest people.

[SPEAKER_05]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, there were two assistants that I had to get through to get to this one particular person and the most immediate one, the one with more power, really did not want to deal with me, like not even a little bit and I was like, oh, thank you so much, I really appreciate and then I sent him a thank you note.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I sent him not on his boss, I sent him the thank you note and I was like, I know that this was a pain for you and I really appreciate you taking the time to help deal with us and I'm sure he was really interested in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, see, it's as look, it's it's important you show that kind of thing, but I understand why home it is pissed among other things first of all, this isn't this isn't his first radio. [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of in that retirement phase anyway.

[SPEAKER_01]: But basically he's he's he's come in now and they follow through obviously this is a big thing because we've we've got some other stuff in the news on tap as well That that shows ice has an exactly been following through if you want to jump down to the second round under the ice monsters Minnesota aftermath Federal judge confirmed ice is violated nearly a hundred court orders in Minnesota this month alone

[SPEAKER_01]: And a judge scolded A.G. Bondi for publishing photos of protesters on social media. [SPEAKER_01]: Amateur hour crap like that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's she's publishing a photograph of protesters who are under criminal indictment. [SPEAKER_03]: So she's saying these people are guilty. [SPEAKER_03]: That's tied to the sentence. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's throw that out. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, correct. [SPEAKER_01]: Bingo. [SPEAKER_01]: Jody knows her to law and order.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will. [SPEAKER_03]: I get my degree from law and order. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: But the long and short of it is, [SPEAKER_01]: The stuff that they're doing is even if you want to be a bully and you're out there being a jerk and you can see on home in space that he's like, are you freaking kid me? [SPEAKER_01]: You got to call my ass up in here to roll in here and clean his crap up because you people couldn't even do a basic.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're going to beat somebody's ass, you don't do it in front of the building. [SPEAKER_01]: You take them out behind the woodshedding [SPEAKER_01]: Look, remember, he's the architect of family separation, so it's not like he's not in favor of taking him out behind the woodshed and beating him. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just pissed because, you know, little man, who is, you know, now leaving. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let his people kill people right out there and this is something that there isn't even a right up for this. [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't put it in the news on [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a couple actually. [SPEAKER_01]: We have this piece. [SPEAKER_01]: If you go under that second round into the Minnesota aftermath, there are new videos showing the altercation between Alex Pretty and federal agents from the 13th. [SPEAKER_01]: 11 days before he died.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, um, Park on the way had a great piece. [SPEAKER_01]: I saw it after we sent out the, uh, uh, the news on tap. [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, there's all these people who are going, oh, that's just fake, fake, fake. [SPEAKER_03]: You're relevant.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's a relevant B. [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, one of the things that you do when you try to figure out if some of these videos and things, you know, just automatically whip out and say, well, because it came from a maggot, it's AI, so it must be, yes, consider the source. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I thought it came from BBC.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, so that's a more legitimate source right exactly and just because that there was a magga guy who was the one who really, you know, pushed it out there and all right Look, it actually did come originally from a BBC evaluation so okay, so we get it so it's out there but It shows nothing to me. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and as as the piece from Kobe Hall in the second rounds notes Alex pretty past interactions with ice do not justify the government killing him.

[SPEAKER_03]: No [SPEAKER_03]: And it suggests that if it was the same group of people that confronted him a lot of days earlier, and they recognized him, you knew exactly where I was going. [SPEAKER_03]: More of a execution than we thought it was. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and that's why it has to be a civil rights investigation, because this is normally why in situations like this, there would be a civil rights investigation.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have a civil rights investigation because among other things intent is what changes the degree of murder. [SPEAKER_01]: from oh it was accidental because he was at work and he didn't put this this screw in this thing and so the carnival ride broke and these people died oh that was accidental.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if it was oh oh his ex-girlfriend was on the carnival ride and he decided to pull the screw out because screw that bitch well well that's a thing I mean premeditated murder doesn't mean a day [SPEAKER_01]: thought us a local period of 10 days 11 days is easily a lot. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't even need to be that long. [SPEAKER_03]: It can be 10 minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: It can be two minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: It can be 30 freaking seconds. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, pre-meditated.

[SPEAKER_01]: Did you have the time to think about it? [SPEAKER_01]: Did you choose to do it? [SPEAKER_01]: Does it take the action that caused the death of the other person? [SPEAKER_01]: If those CBPI skies knew him or recognized him, [SPEAKER_03]: They did approach him, they approached him that day. [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't go up to them, they came to him. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, look at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: One of the many reasons I love working with Jodi is the fact that she is intelligent and she knows these things. [SPEAKER_01]: We're glad you guys do too, but you know, we're just, you know, for some folks they they come in and have one of those weeks too and one of those days too, and they're like wait a minute. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, connected dots.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, ooh, that's not as good as we thought, so there's a lot of issues there, but there's some other issues that we want to talk about because I see some, huh. [SPEAKER_01]: Maga, Republicans, ICE, they're all having some serious issues sticking together over this, which good they should. [SPEAKER_01]: If some of them have conscious, hey, wow, that'd be great! [SPEAKER_03]: That'd be nice. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if they're younger than like 30 phones scare them when they ring, they don't know what's going on. [SPEAKER_01]: My, my, I love my sister. [SPEAKER_01]: She's three years older than me. [SPEAKER_01]: So she's closer to you and yet and yet. [SPEAKER_01]: She still prefers to text. [SPEAKER_01]: Sam, because, well, let's see, she's been a teacher of like junior high school age kids for years and elementary school kids and they all text. [SPEAKER_01]: Of course.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, that's great. [SPEAKER_01]: Put six year older than I am, and she's like, yeah, no. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many texts me. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I, I, there are some friends of mine that are older than I am, that are the same. [SPEAKER_03]: Just text me. [SPEAKER_01]: No, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I probably, you know, I mean, I like it, it can be very functional and useful.

[SPEAKER_01]: It can be useful, it can be, you know, but at times I would just rather have, you know, somebody actually, talk to, I talk to you on the phone, my mom and my friend Jeff. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes Lonnie. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, sometimes my brother. [SPEAKER_01]: It's easy, it's easy with Lonnie because you know, if you call him, he's just going to come back and say the politics bar. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's very rare that he'll usually text me if he's out of the house, he'll text me, and I still help my landline at home, but my mom has been just calling my cell phone, so I might finally get rid of my landline, which I've had that phone number for over 30 years, so you that's that's the hardest. [SPEAKER_03]: Same with my cell phone number, I've had that for over 30 years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's come to think of it mine too these days, so all of one of them, I've got another one. [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry guys, we do get off track a little bit sometimes, but the news on tap today, there is some good news in it. [SPEAKER_01]: If you start out this hop with the fighting the good fight, so the many apples, ice observers are still going. [SPEAKER_01]: And so are the house Democrats at last check. [SPEAKER_01]: They were still fighting.

[SPEAKER_01]: There was today a vote. [SPEAKER_01]: It was around and noon 12 30 Eastern time. [SPEAKER_01]: That kind of thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Midday vote failed badly 45 to 55. [SPEAKER_01]: They needed 60 votes. [SPEAKER_01]: Zero Democratic senators voted for it. [SPEAKER_01]: It was clear they wanted to see it. [SPEAKER_03]: It was clear they wanted to see it. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think Fatarman's gotten his ass warped on that one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I would hope that he would retire and go, you know, when he's at the end of his term, but whatever, seven Republicans, and they weren't just the people you would have fought.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, this was a bud from North Carolina, a Johnson from Wisconsin, Lee from Utah, Paul from Kentucky, Moody from Florida, prick, I mean, Rick Scott from Florida, and Tuberville from Alabama, plus food and then had to step in and vote for procedural reasons so they could bring the bill back up. [SPEAKER_03]: I ran Paul doesn't surprise me. [SPEAKER_01]: No, Rand Paul doesn't surprise me at all on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Rand Paul is, in many ways, you know, more of a libertarian. [SPEAKER_03]: He is. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's his, his dad is. [SPEAKER_03]: And he is. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's he's, he does follow that path more than others do. [SPEAKER_01]: And especially when something like this, he's like, you know, come on, follow the damn lawsman. [SPEAKER_01]: Give me break. [SPEAKER_01]: This is pain. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't like him.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he will never be, I will never vote for him for president, but he's doing the right thing right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, which is good. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, you know, some good things that way, the new Kings, the new no Kings protest are played for March 28th. [SPEAKER_01]: We've got a piece on that in there in the news on tap as well. [SPEAKER_01]: And why the next no Kings protest could be the biggest ones. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so some good things there, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Gotta start off with some good stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: As we know, the Capitol Hill battle going pretty good. [SPEAKER_01]: Democrats basically won't. [SPEAKER_01]: There depending on who you talk to, there are different things about it, but really what they want absolutely is body cameras, judicial warrants, no masks, and identification. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's simple because there are people that are cosplaying ice agents and we can't tell the difference.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're not even in proper uniforms. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not wearing uniform shoes. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not, they don't look like they've There's no standard uniform for a lot of government agencies. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: So that, no. [SPEAKER_01]: And actually, the National Guard, Governor Walls, when he, you know, put that mouth there. [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, there's been a number of local reports. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't stick one of those in there today.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I, you've just seen it of the National Guard and the protesters and the watchers all getting along really well. [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, ha, chocolate, yeah, given them food pizza, I mean, they're, the, the the guardsmen are there to help the public, not, but the guardsmen are are going out and they are specifically wearing those bright reflective green vests. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: So as National Guard on it makes it very clear that they are not the monsters.

[SPEAKER_01]: Which, I mean, that's the kind of thing that lends you, you're like, hey, that's professional. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the kind of thing that, look, I don't like Tom Holman. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned that already, but you can tell that he is just, he's, he's frustrated at a level where, even if it's somebody you hate, think, think of, think of Vladimir Putin, for example. [SPEAKER_01]: as big and as powerful politically, he's not actually tall.

[SPEAKER_01]: But as powerful as he is, even Vladimir Putin, imagine when he was the head of the KGB. [SPEAKER_01]: And then somebody else comes along. [SPEAKER_01]: It's a mid level, mid higher level, you know, operative has a number of good, huge number of people onto them, can't get rid of them, can't easily kill them, can't just, you don't take them in the back and because that's, you know, Putin's way. [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy comes up, they're not near a window.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, unfortunately, but in his case, that's his, I'm telling you from his position. [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy comes up and he screws up some of the most basic crap, keep screwing up the most basic crap. [SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine in your head, Putin, sitting there looking at him going, damn it. [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, even the people that we dislike the most have had that moment.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you can tell that this is Tom Homes moment, right now, of looking at that and going, okay, there's a right way in a wrong way to do this thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Now those of us who have, you know, ethics integrity, empathy, morality, the thing that they're doing is wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_01]: And yet, haven't we said this before there's a right way to do the wrong thing? [SPEAKER_01]: And so home and it's coming in and looking at this and going, oh god.

[SPEAKER_01]: What the, which to me is kind of funny when the people you don't like have to sit there and they're like For God's sake follow your file file your form 14 18 Deer whatever the hell it is Jesus man what's wrong with you? [SPEAKER_03]: I mean Jamie Raskin came out. [SPEAKER_03]: It was funny that Chris Levoy did not realize this until yesterday But Jamie Raskin came out he said look CPV and ice are not law enforcement and do statement [SPEAKER_03]: They are not.

[SPEAKER_01]: They are, well, and that was one of the things, so home and in his pressure this morning. [SPEAKER_01]: Basically reiterated the fact, what we've said, what Glenn said when he was here while back, that they have a limited mandate, and home and made it clear, that among other things, look, the ice agents in Minnesota have now been directed not to interact with, quote, unquote, agitators or protestors. [SPEAKER_01]: They don't want them approaching them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They don't want them interacting them. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, if you have an issue with them, get the national guard to go interact with them. [SPEAKER_01]: But don't tell me. [SPEAKER_03]: Or a police officer, do not go up to these people. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it yourself, don't cause the most basic crap. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do this. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's the level that home it is dealing with this.

[SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, so inside of DHS and inside of Trump's cabinet, Trump's little cabinet meeting, he'll dog and pony show today. [SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, most of the semi and more legitimate news organizations didn't carry very much of it in any of it. [SPEAKER_01]: And even Fox didn't carry out a much of it, which I was, it was shorter anyway. [SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't even let Nome speak, which the reporters who were there, right.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the kind of, there is a lot of, like we said yesterday, a lot of house of cards, people backstabbing, everybody, you stalked you so much. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if he's going to fire anybody, it will be known because he's a lady. [SPEAKER_01]: See, look, Johnny recognized the misogyny from 100,000 feet, man. [SPEAKER_01]: Let me come on this, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: But not only that, the actual Magamonsters at the bottom are out on, [SPEAKER_01]: You know, trash social and all the other social media, they're getting pissed at Trump because they're saying, come on, you need to be out in the streets and kill in these these protesters, these because they're anti-American and they're not which. [SPEAKER_01]: No, they're not. [SPEAKER_01]: They're more American than you maggots, but that in any case.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if we're going to do that American, you know, comparing it thing, but the fact is that Trump is catching health for that, the the basis is splitting because there are a number of people who are saying, this is not right. [SPEAKER_01]: And then we have a good piece from a lecture Jane today in the argument that goes down on polling actually breaks down some of the numbers. [SPEAKER_01]: voters who do they blame for the many apple is shootings. [SPEAKER_01]: 29% blame.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ice immigration officials 25% blame Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see 29 out. [SPEAKER_01]: 25. [SPEAKER_01]: That's way. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Basically about 33, 34% blame anti-ice protesters and Democrats. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: And what have we said? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, right now it's divided in thirds. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one-third of idiots who want to keep sticking to.

[SPEAKER_03]: But there was a Fox poll that came out that said 59% of people are against what. [SPEAKER_03]: And but 17% think they need to go farther? [SPEAKER_03]: Who are the 17%? [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the true maga, whatever you want to call them, disciples. [SPEAKER_01]: It's sickening. [SPEAKER_01]: I've said this before. [SPEAKER_01]: It's only about 18% of the people who are that far into the rat hole. [SPEAKER_01]: Their head is that far gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: They are that far brainwashed. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's only about 18%. [SPEAKER_01]: And this proves it. [SPEAKER_01]: It's sitch. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sitch. [SPEAKER_01]: And when you look at what 35-ish years of mainstream right-wing propaganda mass media, that doesn't surprise me at all. [SPEAKER_01]: It surprises me in some ways that actually it isn't more. [SPEAKER_01]: But it is tearing the Republican party and tearing Maga apart.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it sounds like breaking up ice internally as well because there are enough people who are realizing that, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: this is wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: In quite frankly, Perry Bacon is a good piece. [SPEAKER_01]: We put this one in the news on tap today too. [SPEAKER_01]: It's under the section called the Battle on Capitol Hill.

[SPEAKER_01]: Democrats have a lot to gain and nothing to lose by going after ice like we were talking with Jared and saying push things further. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that Chuck will, but they were making it very clear today. [SPEAKER_01]: That vote earlier today was to split off the other five bills from the DHS CBP ice bill. [SPEAKER_01]: And it's very clear, the answer was, yes, we'd like to split that off, but you're not going to.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, and, and Republicans still aren't getting the message, why don't you just let us do this thing. [SPEAKER_01]: And we won't both do because you're not supposed to, that's why.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so yeah, because the Dems would keep the government open if they would just separate that funding if they would separate if they would separate it out and put on say a week dead another one week deadline or two week deadline find whatever, but you know, it's it's Republicans in Congress trying to be jerks and [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of jerks. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you remember the five-year-old boy in Ramos that they used to date? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, more child.

[SPEAKER_01]: He, they took his rabbit hat and his spider-man backpack from him and he's apparently not doing so well. [SPEAKER_01]: Jasmine Crockett and Texas. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't that remember his name? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because his brother is his brother. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he can cast her up. [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Castro. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: They both went and they saw him. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's not not doing great.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just send him home. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's in another country. [SPEAKER_03]: He's in Texas, send him home. [SPEAKER_01]: And he's American citizens. [SPEAKER_01]: As far as I know, pretty sure he is. [SPEAKER_01]: He was born here. [SPEAKER_01]: He is, and isn't his mom, but his dad's not so good. [SPEAKER_03]: Give him to his mommy and give his stuff back. [SPEAKER_01]: a big time. [SPEAKER_01]: Also, why would you take away a kid's backpack and his rabbit hat?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because they want to be awful. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like I said, being jerks, being cruel.

[SPEAKER_01]: was it Bob who was saying it's a we're in the age of jerks only not the jerk movie which still good movies are like a movie yes Steve Martin actually oh by the way have you seen the uh... um... uh... not movie but uh... the lady Gaga add i have not seen it i heard it but i haven't seen it yes the mr. Rogers add uh... will she read as the she doesn't kind of in a minor key i was pretty has she said it was very pretty

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she's saying anything that I haven't, you know, thought in some ways and pretty. [SPEAKER_03]: She is very talented, young lady. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she is freaking amazing as an artist. [SPEAKER_01]: We have the links by the way to that entertainment section of the news on the tap. [SPEAKER_01]: And she is a real professional. [SPEAKER_01]: You can be a professional with a lot of things. [SPEAKER_01]: You can be a professional monster.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the folks at ICE. [SPEAKER_01]: You can be a professional singer, obviously. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Lady Gaga. [SPEAKER_01]: You could be a professional drunk. [SPEAKER_01]: No, really. [SPEAKER_01]: You absolutely could be a professional drone. [SPEAKER_01]: There was one. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about him here in the drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_01]: But fresh in your drink, dude, you got to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all there at thepaltxbar.com. [SPEAKER_01]: Jody, the drink of the day today, you know, it is, it's simple. [SPEAKER_01]: You haven't had one of these? [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you not a fan of this particular type of drink or just the particular type of day? [SPEAKER_01]: But, no, no, because I know you like getting up early. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, dude, it's... [SPEAKER_01]: I know it's late now. [SPEAKER_03]: It's really late.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a problem with a martini. [SPEAKER_03]: This is a different type of one. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not a big fan of Marmalade. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand it's reasoning. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for me, I like it just a regular old dad's. [SPEAKER_03]: Draw my dad used to when he drank. [SPEAKER_03]: It was just, hold the bottle near the shaker. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Hold the bottle for me. [SPEAKER_03]: Just go, hello, and then put it down.

[SPEAKER_01]: What is the drink of the day today? [SPEAKER_01]: And who is the inspiration for the drink of the day? [SPEAKER_03]: It is a breakfast martini inspired by WC Fields. [SPEAKER_03]: That was revealed. [SPEAKER_03]: It's his voice day. [SPEAKER_03]: And professional drunk. [SPEAKER_03]: Apparently.

[SPEAKER_01]: he was very funny obviously if you guys haven't seen any of his films go just find them yeah just go I mean like many things these days you can go look for clips on YouTube so I don't know they have like full things but there he had so many quotes over the years that were just [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, things that you're like, hey, man, who said that? [SPEAKER_01]: You think that it's something, you know, some genius or something, you know, really smart person, whatever said it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean he wasn't smart. [SPEAKER_01]: No, this is true. [SPEAKER_01]: This is true. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, especially, you know, when he says like the quote that we used today on social media for this vlog, this is a WC field quote, I cook with wine. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I even add it to the food. [SPEAKER_01]: But, [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he was known as a heavy, heavy drinker before going to work, um, it stopped his juggling career.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, kind of hard to, you know, juggle well when you see three of them. [SPEAKER_03]: So, well, he apparently would get up around nine and start with two martinis. [SPEAKER_01]: So, well, one of them probably just like this one, I got to say, I mean, not a bad market. [SPEAKER_01]: And remember, he was doing this through prohibition as well. [SPEAKER_03]: that he says, somebody's been putting pineapple juice in my pineapple juice.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he said he drank it off, mostly Martin, you saying I work better with them inside me. [SPEAKER_01]: Another one of his things is everybody's got to believe in something, believe all have another drink. [SPEAKER_03]: And he also said, what contemptible scoundrels stole the cork from my lunch? [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: He's your funny things. [SPEAKER_01]: He was funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Very funny. [SPEAKER_01]: Can I say it here? [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I suppose I could.

[SPEAKER_01]: One of his quotes that I like is he says, I don't drink water. [SPEAKER_01]: Fish. [SPEAKER_01]: Copyulate in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Only he didn't use the work for that. [SPEAKER_03]: So they fornicate, do they? [SPEAKER_01]: Indeed, which they do. [SPEAKER_03]: They also poop and pee. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway. [SPEAKER_01]: He had a lot of good quotes, and I have to admit, you know, if you're looking for something a little bit beyond a regular martyred.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's definitely different. [SPEAKER_01]: I think this one works. [SPEAKER_01]: What happens to be in a breakfast martini, Jodie? [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to need a shaker, a jigger, a strainer, a pre-chilled kuklas. [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So, a lot of booze, one in three quarter ounces of gin, three quarters of an ounce of lemon juice, a half ounce of quantro, and a teaspoon of orange marmalade. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand why you're doing it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I did too, it makes sense. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you garnish with an orange zest toast. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: So you add the gin and the marmalade to the shakers. [SPEAKER_03]: Now you're not going to shake it. [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to stir it until the marmalade dissolves.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because you're basically trying to make orange flavored gin pretty much yeah, which if you want to pre buy orange flavored gin you can do that and then skip the marmalade fits the whole I mean you know whatever that's that's your thing and then you add the control in the lemon juice and then you shake it until it's called any strain into the coupe glass and double strain it to avoid some of the marmalade stuff that you're going to get in there. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then you garnish with the orange zest toast, which I assume you just kind of toast with the, you know, kind of scrape, they didn't give me directions on that. [SPEAKER_03]: You kind of probably scrape the orange peel on me. [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's just white bread, um, with, uh, kind of a rubbing orange on it and and great little bit of orange zest and toast it a little and and toast it a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Cut off the, cut off the, the, the, the, um, [SPEAKER_01]: When you see the picture, it's a little trying to put it there. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you don't want it, it's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, the nice thing about some of these drinks is there are lots of pieces, like the garnish for example, that are optional. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you're smart. [SPEAKER_01]: You guys know it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Unless it's a key believer, you have to use a life. [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, it's just a rum and coke. [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no. [SPEAKER_01]: That's that. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, Jody knows. [SPEAKER_01]: Jody knows these things. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why people subscribe and you should, too. [SPEAKER_01]: Now, when you get the drink of the day, just check it out at the politics bar, dot com.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, before the break, we were talking a little bit about the Lady Gaga bits. [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, she was in Tokyo doing a concert. [SPEAKER_01]: She was stopped and put ice on blast and said that the everybody there should support Americans who are being mercilessly targeted. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and nice job. [SPEAKER_03]: I know we talked a little bit about ice going to Italy for the winter Olympics still makes the little no sense and they don't want them there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I understand security. [SPEAKER_03]: I get that but ice in particular. [SPEAKER_01]: We had that that it's just that article it's in yesterday's still don't agree with it. [SPEAKER_03]: Send security. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but here's, so here's how it works, is every country has designated responsibilities when you bring your, sure, athletes and whoever your authorities are that are coming with it, whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the US does, too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sure. [SPEAKER_01]: But they can't all be like they don't want like one of the big countries showing up with like a whole military force They are you know, it's the Olympics.

[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want them, you know, and yeah, everybody's like, you know, peace, peace, no invasion kind of thing so they don't want Everybody from your your biggest military thing so they want law enforcement officials [SPEAKER_01]: one which I says not we have already deduced they are not law enforcement but but you see in because they are in kind of a gray area

[SPEAKER_01]: They're the kind of people who they're like, well, we don't want to actually take our real law enforcement off the streets and things So in the past it's been okay, you know Give it a benefit to you know a couple of these guys from this one and a couple from that agency over there.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of law enforcement It you know a way to maybe reward somebody who's done a good job, but also Not necessarily hurting your regular law enforcement [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it because they actually have their own law enforcement forces there anyway. [SPEAKER_01]: So it's anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Italy doesn't want them. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: Because ice here in America is known the world over as being violent and incompetent. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Why not just send FBI agents that are already in Europe? [SPEAKER_03]: Hi. [SPEAKER_03]: Security. [SPEAKER_03]: They have guns. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't dress like ice monsters. [SPEAKER_03]: They know how to do law enforcement. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, look, this is part of a whole thing with the clean up that they will attempt and fail at because as we've noted in some of the pieces in the news on tap earlier this week, this is what Stephen Miller wants, Stephen Miller and the people like him, including Donald Trump, they want law enforcement to be big and mean and scary so that they scare all the immigrants away, scare all the brown and black people away.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what their goal is, that's why they want to use ice and abuse ice in the way that they're doing it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole reason why they're doing this is so that it's similar to why Trump uses stochastic terrorism. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that the members of Congress, the Republican members of Congress, are so afraid of Donald Trump himself. [SPEAKER_01]: They're not actually most of them are afraid of him. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's people. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's the nuts. [SPEAKER_01]: It's the maggots. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the guy that threw the whatever it was. [SPEAKER_03]: You know? [SPEAKER_01]: At representative Omar, right? [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, look on his socials. [SPEAKER_01]: He's a Trump fan. [SPEAKER_01]: We got a story on that in the news. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the thing that's interesting, David brought this up today. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's smell like quote vinegar. [SPEAKER_03]: What?

[SPEAKER_03]: He thought it was urine. [SPEAKER_03]: Possible. [SPEAKER_01]: possible, um, which makes sense. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad it wasn't something that was damaging or disfiguring. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad he didn't, um, throw something that was flammable and then throw, uh, you know, I mean, [SPEAKER_03]: No, it could have been a lot worse than it was. [SPEAKER_03]: And it could have been. [SPEAKER_01]: But this guy bless her.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's the stochastic terrorism that Trump and his monsters like Miller use what you to be afraid. [SPEAKER_01]: And it goes along with Trump's whole thing of, well, you know, I'm I'm, uh, [SPEAKER_01]: unpredictable, nobody, no other, no other leader in any other nation can predict what I'm going to do. [SPEAKER_01]: So I can't tell them what to do. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because everybody's going to be afraid of me. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It goes along with the whole thing. [SPEAKER_01]: This is that they can't really reform or change any of that stuff that they're doing because that's the outcome that they [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's the same reason why we tell people who are in relationships with an abuser that you have to leave that they're not going to change right that's that's who they are their motive interaction is look at me are big and strong and you better do what I want or else

[SPEAKER_01]: they don't have any other method of trying to convince anybody that they don't do the sugar thing they don't they're they're not nice for nice sick like I was saying like his dad knew shoveled somebody's drive they don't do that they're just abusive monsters and that's down the trump and that's people like Steven Miller who follow him [SPEAKER_01]: That's their only thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the only thing is to get rid of them, which, as we get a chance, by the way, speaking of chances and getting rid of things, obviously, because we have elections, Amy Klobuchar has announced she is officially running for Governor Invincer, which, [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think she'll be a good governor there. [SPEAKER_01]: I really hope that the people of Minnesota, I know you folks who are listening there on AM950. [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all, I mean, you know, she'll be good.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I think so. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that she loves her state. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think she's been a decent senator for them. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: If Peggy Flanagan had run for it, I would have said go for her. [SPEAKER_01]: She is running for Congress, and I still say go for her, because I like Peggy Flanagan. [SPEAKER_01]: So she's great, and she is great. [SPEAKER_03]: who's going to run for Senator Klobuchar's seat.

[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, that's that's the keys. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, how are the chairs? [SPEAKER_01]: How's the musical chairs that they're going to know? [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knows for that. [SPEAKER_03]: What do they have the same law that we do? [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you run for one seat, you can't hold onto your old seat. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how to check because every state's different like when Adam shift was running for the Senate.

[SPEAKER_03]: Had he not gotten that seat, he would not still be a representative in the house. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Because that's how California does it. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I think that's actually really smart. [SPEAKER_01]: It means if you actually want to step out, you actually have to take a risk. [SPEAKER_01]: You can't just be like, yeah, I'm doing this on the side. [SPEAKER_01]: This is my side job. [SPEAKER_01]: My side job is getting a new job.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's don't do that. [SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: So good luck to her. [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, good luck to Mellermitt Maro. [SPEAKER_01]: She is new polling in Michigan. [SPEAKER_01]: So she is in the lead. [SPEAKER_01]: It's still still anybody's game, but I'm a MacMorrow fan. [SPEAKER_01]: So there are a lot of elections coming up.

[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, we have a piece from Boltsmag under election land at the 20 elections to watch coming up in February, which I don't know if February is next week. [SPEAKER_02]: It's Monday. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: It's Sunday. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hey, January, what fast this, this, this, this time around, relatively speaking. [SPEAKER_01]: So, look, ah, something it's gonna go fast, this next break.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because John Fuckel sang his coming up, he's gonna join us. [SPEAKER_01]: We will talk more about the news of the day, you know, we'll pour you a couple rounds for the news on tap. [SPEAKER_01]: Fresh in your drink and come right back. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills of the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, which is pretty good talking about how what Trump is doing is, you know, kind of mafia style stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thank. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very much. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, Randy understands he's kind of as he's been, she even said she said Trump was doing mafia style stuff the first time around. [SPEAKER_03]: So he's been doing mafia style stuff since the 80s. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sadly true.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sadly true, he doesn't learn a whole lot of new tricks. [SPEAKER_01]: girl anyway. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see here. [SPEAKER_01]: So in the news on tap for today, obviously we hit the first round and the second round there a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, there is a thing in the second round. [SPEAKER_01]: So you and I both caught this one. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll set the same thing. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Ken Clipinstein has a good piece talking about ISIS secret walk watch list.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the ice monster's next target, [SPEAKER_01]: So y'all remember the cats and dogs thing. [SPEAKER_01]: He's eating the cats. [SPEAKER_03]: He's eating the dogs. [SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not. [SPEAKER_01]: But that affected a very specific group of people, Haitians. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it did. [SPEAKER_01]: that happen to be in a community that is in God. [SPEAKER_01]: Where is it in the highest field? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's free field.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so they're in Springfield. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Donald Trump has pulled the temporary protected status of Haitians. [SPEAKER_01]: So, and now ICE is linking their chops because that ends February 30, it ends next week. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was Tuesday. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So now the fun by, and if by fun, you mean horror and catastrophe is moving to Springfield. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping you folks in Springfield been paying attention.

[SPEAKER_01]: All the good folks who've been, you know, attacked by ice throughout this year. [SPEAKER_01]: I also hope folks realize, because everybody, you know, if you know Springfield is not a big down. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know a big Springfield or how is it? [SPEAKER_03]: I've never been there. [SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's not a big city. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not L.A. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not DC. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Chicago. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Minneapolis Saint Paul.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not New Orleans. [SPEAKER_01]: Daddy's there. [SPEAKER_01]: No, none of these things. [SPEAKER_01]: So people who are thinking, oh, the ice monster is only going to go to the big cities in blue states. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: This is why we said that this is this is why that poem first. [SPEAKER_01]: They came. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the whole reason for that thing folks. [SPEAKER_01]: So you got to pay attention.

[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, um, I do know that a lot of places seem to be kind of, um, [SPEAKER_01]: And like the folks down at Fulton County, you folks who are listening down on Georgia now in the ATL. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, yesterday the Trump FBI, including DNI, Tulsi Gabbard for some, why would she there? [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not a national security issue. [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody can seem to figure it out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and the the whole reason the ballots still exist normally the ballots for the 2020 election would have been gone right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: By 2022. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: But because there's been this frivolous stupid ass lawsuit by some Trump maggot fan. [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: They still had to be kept there for whatever. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So. [SPEAKER_01]: everybody's like oh my god Trump's gonna you know try and say that he won the 2020 only okay first of all there's a good piece by Philip Bump who's been an excellent reporter for a long time you speak Washington Post now he's over with MS now he's got a piece that we put there in the news on tap today [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, this is this is not a normal thing. [SPEAKER_01]: The folks at ProPublica confirmed that this, this is not I mean, this is this is rare.

[SPEAKER_01]: But let's take a hypothetical for a second. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's say that Trump decides to play out this game. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, look, I actually won 2020. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how many terms can a president have? [SPEAKER_01]: Do a way. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, correct. [SPEAKER_03]: So he's already done. [SPEAKER_03]: He would have to be out now. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody would have to be out now. [SPEAKER_03]: Mike Johnson will be president. [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he wants to push it. [SPEAKER_01]: He can push it. [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. [SPEAKER_01]: But congratulations. [SPEAKER_01]: At that point, everybody is going to be like, No, then you're done. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're done. [SPEAKER_01]: If you want in 2020, this would be your third, and I'm sorry, but no. [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go back and retcon it, you can't. [SPEAKER_01]: But you can't. [SPEAKER_01]: You can't legitimately do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And also, if, if 2020 was illegitimate for you, then it was also illegitimate for everybody else on the ballot. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least in Georgia, huh? [SPEAKER_01]: Which means all of those Republicans who won for Congress match will lose her pension. [SPEAKER_01]: The current governor there, I believe, would lose his position. [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_01]: You think all those folks are going to stand around and let him take their jobs.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean sometimes when I've said about thinking things through completely, I get it because a lot of a lot of the media is like, ohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho

[SPEAKER_01]: Boca, Boca, Boca, Boca, okay fine, so Trump does that. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then he's out. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, he's out. [SPEAKER_01]: And then JD's out and then, um, oh, no, it would be out. [SPEAKER_01]: The whole cabinet would be out. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But also, uh, people like Stephen Miller would be gone, because they're only there because Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: So, well, the thing is, his argument would be, well, I won, but I didn't get to serve.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, technically, this is still my second term. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but then you didn't actually win.

[SPEAKER_01]: you can't you can't have it both ways he wants it both ways because he's basically a six year old or a ten year old don't know even think he's that mature hmm i think you're right but he's a child and and you know big and big and moan and he can claim and say anything he wants he can say the moon is made of green cheese doesn't mean it so it isn't yeah no [SPEAKER_01]: Also, that that is one of the things that bothers me and has bothered me for a decade with the mainstream media.

[SPEAKER_01]: Donald Trump came out and said that he pooped solid gold. [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't care what he says so much. [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I care because sometimes it matters. [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of times he says a lot of garbage. [SPEAKER_01]: Randy said this, Maddo has said this, watch what they do, not what they always, so, you know, oh, well, you know, so what if he comes out and says, I won 2020? [SPEAKER_01]: Really? [SPEAKER_01]: Who's present 2021, 2022, 2022, 2023?

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me remind you, Donnie, it was Joe Biden, not you. [SPEAKER_03]: Who did a such a good job? [SPEAKER_01]: He did. [SPEAKER_01]: And he will always. [SPEAKER_01]: me recorded as doing a fantastic job. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes he was he was a very good president for a very prepared time he was very good. [SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't matter what Donnie says he can say whatever he wants.

[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't make it so just because the kid who's standing there while you're waiting for the airplane or the bus or whatever screaming and throwing a tantrum. [SPEAKER_01]: Who is red? [SPEAKER_01]: Who is red? [SPEAKER_01]: No, blue is still blue, red is still red, and you're still a whining little twit. [SPEAKER_01]: So, this is because he says it don't mean it's true. [SPEAKER_01]: I still think it's dangerous for a lot of other ways.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some of which, by the way, I should probably put Randy's piece. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll put that in the news on Tap tomorrow. [SPEAKER_01]: Because she goes through why some of this stuff is dangerous, why he wants, why Trump, and why all of these people, by bonding, why they want the voter rolls. [SPEAKER_01]: That's not gonna get. [SPEAKER_01]: because they want the data, you realize campaigns can buy voter rules. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you knew this or not.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: From having, okay, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm some people though, but you can buy, it's a certain kind of data that you can buy. [SPEAKER_01]: Voterals. [SPEAKER_01]: You can buy parts of Voterals. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: But there are certain parts of it that you don't get. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Like drive license numbers and certification states. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: That's the information that they want to get.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why you've even got states like Utah. [SPEAKER_01]: You've got red states that are that are telling the Trump DOJ. [SPEAKER_01]: No, Pound say and you're not going to get our voter data. [SPEAKER_01]: because it's ours. [SPEAKER_01]: States still have some supremacy and some of them are handing it over in Nebraska did dumbasses. [SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of them are not.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, and so that's that may be some of what Donald Trump and his minions are trying to do in Fulton County, which is obviously... Well, they want the voter rolls so that they can tell Georgia who to kick off the rolls.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then they can also use a well, what time for a recommendation and other things right right and claiming there's more fraud than there is, you know, like like let's say your friends Uncle Bob There was an election coming up where he lives and he he put in his ballot early, but then a week before the election he died he still voted yes, but Trump wants to be able to say look dead people voted no he was alive when he voted

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but that's part of the reason thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It still counts he was alive. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you, but you know, and the right wing media world they can go look dead, people voted. [SPEAKER_03]: Not all they were dead. [SPEAKER_01]: Judd is right. [SPEAKER_03]: I know I had a friend of mine years ago go, who would about you know, voter rolls and people died. [SPEAKER_03]: I said, yeah, that's the first thing you think about when your family member dies.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, get them off the voter rolls. [SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_01]: Judd is correct again. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, come on, you know, I trust me. [SPEAKER_03]: many family members and that's not on your brain. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, that's up to you. [SPEAKER_03]: That's up to the county to go, okay, this person's death certificate. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're still in the voter else. [SPEAKER_03]: We will remove them from said voter.

[SPEAKER_01]: Also, many of things to do. [SPEAKER_01]: So they're like, maybe that's on the stack that's on their desk and they're not getting to it this week, but they're going to get to it. [SPEAKER_01]: They will. [SPEAKER_03]: And they will get to it before the voting starts. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, good job. [SPEAKER_01]: But his minions, they want to use it so that they can confuse people. [SPEAKER_01]: And claim that dead people were voting and all kinds of other garbage like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, what they're trying to do is is ridiculous that way. [SPEAKER_01]: And you just, you kind of, you know, you shake your head. [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, somebody who usually doesn't make me shake my head unless it's in laughter. [SPEAKER_01]: John Fudelsign just popped up here in the bar. [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing, man? [SPEAKER_00]: Good, hello, friends. [SPEAKER_00]: How are you? [SPEAKER_01]: That's not too bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about this ridiculousness with the Fulton County, and I still know what the hell. [SPEAKER_01]: Tulsi Gabbard was doing there, but what do you mean, you don't know? [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean, you don't know? [SPEAKER_00]: What does Tulsi Gabbard ever done to anything that wasn't for Tulsi Gabbard? [SPEAKER_00]: What has your confused about? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: She was a Democrat for herself.

[SPEAKER_00]: She became a Republican because Democrats saw through her stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: What do you confuse about? [SPEAKER_00]: Don't say Gabbard does things that are good for Tulsi Gabbard. [SPEAKER_00]: It's really easy to understand the motivations of everyone in this entire cabinet. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: You're right. [SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations on your audio award. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't believe it, but I got to say I enjoyed performing the book a lot more than I enjoyed writing the book and I had a really good time. [SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea how many people were going to buy the audio book, but we got two nominations for the audio works for a non-fiction and for, I think, for the performance of it. [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, thank you for knowing that, Joey. [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of you, I didn't even know there were awards for audio books.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows? [SPEAKER_03]: You can get a Grammy. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: I know that now. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say my mom lost hers to Pete Seeger. [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I know and screw that guy by the way. [SPEAKER_00]: I went have some rewards within when I see him. [SPEAKER_01]: We will talk more about your book, audio or print version and of course all the news of the day.

[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a couple of good sub-stack pieces we've linked to as well. [SPEAKER_01]: John Fugle's saying in the house, it is Thursday night. [SPEAKER_01]: Fresh in your drink, do what you got into if you missed it earlier. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, go down the hall, left right center. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we say, we aim to please your politics bar. [SPEAKER_01]: Are you aim to please? [SPEAKER_01]: Then come back and hang out with Jody and John and me. [SPEAKER_01]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I thought G-Spot was a rapper, you know, like for Rapport. [SPEAKER_00]: And I went on Spotify and I can't find him. [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean? [SPEAKER_01]: Well played I didn't even thought of that one. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Most men don't get that punchline shot. [SPEAKER_01]: No worries Unfortunately, that happens to be true. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not one of them. [SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just hadn't thought of myself I'm like, you know, that's good. [SPEAKER_01]: Look, you're a professional community. [SPEAKER_01]: We had a professional drunk today in the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_01]: We did.

[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he was a master comedian and he was not as drunk as people say that was his care is character i mean he's a great performer a great actor a great i want to say great stand up a great vaude villian and uh... uh... no he i mean he was he was wc feels was a disciplined artist who who played drunk amazingly but yeah you're well-being martin was never actually drunk when he had been martin what i mean they said that they say d martin wasn't actually drunk but he was damn convincing but yeah but he was a

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the, here's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: So we, we, we started off talking the day, but a little bit about, you know, professionals and amateurs, even the people you don't like, because Tom Hobag, sorry, homein, I keep. [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Bagman. [SPEAKER_00]: There you go. [SPEAKER_01]: Every time every time I see the guy, I keep taking him a bag of Kava, just, just, just where my brain goes.

[SPEAKER_01]: But Tom, homein, yeah, I mean, I don't like the guy, but he's clearly a professional. [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you saw his his pressure this morning, but the look on his face and the way he went through it is very clear. [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you know, I'm a professional. [SPEAKER_01]: This is amateur crap.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, look, he's like, look, if you're gonna take somebody and kill him, you take him out back, you put him behind, then you kill him, then you file the form 38D, okay, Jack S? [SPEAKER_01]: So he's pissed at all these people who are screwing up his way to do things wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, if you're gonna put families and separate them, put it into policy, make sure that it's rolled out, that's what they did. [SPEAKER_01]: The first regime.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so you can tell that home and it's just kind of like, got a bunch of damn amateur's man. [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, while it's absolutely horrifying and disgusting, I am at least somewhat amused that he's sitting there, he's pissed off that these people are so evil and incompetent, that they can't even get doing wrong things right. [SPEAKER_01]: And now he's going to do whatever he's going to do and at least clean up the public face of this monstrosity.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see obviously what happens next Tuesday when they probably roll into Springfield, Ohio and go after the Haitians because TPS will be up. [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just, you sit there and you look at people who are professional, like we said, professional professionals acting drunk, but they're really great actors, so they're very good. [SPEAKER_01]: This whole regime is so incompetent. [SPEAKER_01]: They can't even do the jackbooted thunks, thugs thing correctly.

[SPEAKER_00]: which I'm I'm glad for I'm glad that it's half fascism I'm glad that it is not um it's the same with push and chainy by the way that's been the great blessing of this nation the 21st century that our fascists are more stupid than they are evil um that's that I call them dim shady because they're always dumber than they are sinister and they're very sinister but they're very and that's why these guys got hired trump hires these idiots and and Tom Holman isn't idiot believe me I mean yeah he got he got caught on tape

[SPEAKER_00]: only one bribe no one in the media or the Democratic Party seems to have the intellectual wherewithal to ask him how many bags of money did you pick up Tom so he can lie on camera again but Donald Trump hires these these idiots for two reasons one the idiots won't tell him when he's breaking the law

[SPEAKER_00]: And two right the none of the idiots know that they're all going to be the fall guys when all of this collapses like Trump stakes Trump Airlines or the Trump hotel in Atlantic City Um, great bovino America's shortest Nazi [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't really been hired here. [SPEAKER_00]: He's been moved around like a predator priest, you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just moving around, but like, you know, the DOJ's own data shows that only 2.5% of all

[SPEAKER_00]: people arrested in Chicago before October 7 had clocked right this in Chicago had no criminal histories whatsoever and undocumented immigrants and documented immigrants both commit crimes at a lower rate than natural born citizens now more and more yeah the villains are bovino and and villains are are like these these this Tom home and and first he known but also the villains are uh... the entire republican party the entire media apparatus at one point out

[SPEAKER_00]: that Minnesota has about between 100,000 and 130,000 undocumented immigrants there. [SPEAKER_00]: Texas has over 2 million undocumented immigrants there. [SPEAKER_00]: ISIS has not been sent to terrorize a red state with 20 times.

[SPEAKER_00]: the undocumented people because this is not about immigration and it's not about safety and war we talk about this like it's really about immigration or public safety in some way and not a racist violent fantasia that's not actually solving any problems you know the racists are being groomed to be angry gullible and dumb [SPEAKER_00]: And they don't know the facts. [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to know the facts.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we just have to keep on asking the question and reminding everyone, as of this taping today, for 41 days straight, Donald Trump and Pam Bonny have broken the law to protect child rapists. [SPEAKER_00]: And so before any conversation about any of this, when you're dealing with your right wing loved one, why is it important to protect men? [SPEAKER_00]: who put their digits inside children for 41 days in violation of your own law. [SPEAKER_00]: Why is that important?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to that before we talk about any murder to Americans. [SPEAKER_00]: And then we can get to their lies. [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter what these guys say. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't get down at social media and your co-workers and your racist uncle. [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump and JD Vance and Christy Nome have lied. [SPEAKER_00]: in the murder of Americans. [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing that can happen that can change that.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter if they fire Stephen Miller or fire Kristi Nome, none of that's going to matter. [SPEAKER_00]: These right-wing thugs are murdering Americans. [SPEAKER_00]: And the liars are saying zero accountability for the murderers, punished the brown people who came here to work for the white people, blame the political opponents you're already lying about, lie about the victims, and they broke in the law every day since this September 19th to protect child rape.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even about immigration at all. [SPEAKER_00]: If it was about immigration, they'd be in Texas doing this. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not. [SPEAKER_00]: They're in a state that Trump lost three times. [SPEAKER_00]: They're in the state that gave us Bob Dylan Prince and Kirby Pucket. [SPEAKER_00]: They are in a state that shows us that their entire world he was a lie, a state of working class white people and lots of other ethnicities who don't hate immigrants.

[SPEAKER_00]: who don't fear their neighbors, who don't want jack-booted government thugs coming into beat up poor people and who've shown us that non-violent resistance can meet fascism and shame it to its face. [SPEAKER_00]: They show everything that Jesus and the American dream and the civil rights movement talked about and they disprove all the lies of this entire agenda. [SPEAKER_00]: All of them. [SPEAKER_00]: God bless the people of Minneapolis.

[SPEAKER_00]: and Godless Springsteen and Billy Bragg for writing great song if you're in the Billy Bragg song I haven't heard the Billy Bragg song. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know a journey of you. [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't died in my died. [SPEAKER_00]: Springsteen songs great. [SPEAKER_00]: Billy Bragg song is insanely great. [SPEAKER_01]: It's on on see. [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen it on blue sky and threads. [SPEAKER_00]: Paul City of Heroes y'all will like it.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you know the Martinine Muller poem it helps, but yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And he mentions the name, I mean, name, he name checks him in there, which is like nice. [SPEAKER_00]: That's, look at the American Federation of Government employees, friends. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the largest federal employee union in the country. [SPEAKER_00]: The union that represented Alex Pretty, VA nurse murdered by Howard.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have formally called for the resignations of Christy Nome and Steven Miller. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not the radical left. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not a protest group. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the largest group of people who actually work for this government. [SPEAKER_00]: And you've got these clowns, these racist themes, these liars, these giving them pasty middle finger, the Jesus, like JD Vance. [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get to redefine terrorism after federal agents murder a citizen.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't get to possibly demonize the dead to protect living liars and murderers. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it's it's now what is it? [SPEAKER_01]: It's between three quarters and it's somewhere around, uh, I think 85% of all the Democrats in the house now are backing the let's impeach, uh, no, you've got at least two senators who have come out and said it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if you believe the Capitol Hill's scuttled butt, there are more to a public incentive to a public incentives. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you, you got, [SPEAKER_01]: Christy Nam is is she was the one that I said a while back that that they want to get rid of that that that she's one of the people They're gonna get rid of all of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're all that's why hired that's why you've tried to make Matt gates the attorney general right you can cut these idiots loose [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as it starts the six to you when the scandal gets big enough that it damages Trump he'll cut them loose Right, that's it like like like like you're like you're lasting a boil obviously with cutting Bavino That was the first quarter-quote scalp.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what his case his camp calls them Yeah, which is yeah, that's racist But he wasn't really fired. [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't really I can't I don't I get what you're saying But he wasn't really fired. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they say he's retiring, but I mean he's gonna be taken care of he'll He gets to bring his left water. [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna call themselves real.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah [SPEAKER_00]: Bring his love to offer costumes back to California, but they'll take care of him. [SPEAKER_00]: He'll not see any, but what these, what these idiots don't understand is two things. [SPEAKER_00]: One, this in unity, this insane, we wish we had a king that these 36 on the court gave Donald Trump does not apply to underlings and henchmen. [SPEAKER_00]: And what they really don't understand is there's, there's no expiration date on murder. [SPEAKER_05]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've been these men will be made to stand and face justice and they will not be able to hide. [SPEAKER_01]: I saw the story. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to remember. [SPEAKER_01]: There was a young woman who was killed by a cop, I saw the story and I didn't actually pull it just pull it aside. [SPEAKER_01]: But I saw that the cop finally got sent for 20 years.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, there have been unfortunately, so many, um, killings of citizens by policemen that there shouldn't have been. [SPEAKER_01]: And this was another one. [SPEAKER_01]: I'll look at it. [SPEAKER_00]: But look at Minneapolis. [SPEAKER_00]: Minneapolis is the first police department in history, where a chief of police testified and court against his own cop in the George Floyd murder.

[SPEAKER_00]: Minneapolis has already led four blocks away from where Renee Good was murdered on this issue. [SPEAKER_01]: there's still leading in so many ways the uh... we were talking about this earlier john that the uh... the national guard who is out uh... they have been actually getting along with the watchers and protesters they've they've been kind of you know commiserating sharing your hot chocolate and pizza or whatever [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you're in a sentence.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: And Governor Walsh has them coming out in these bright day glow green vests. [SPEAKER_01]: The National Guard, and that says National Guard on it. [SPEAKER_01]: She can tell the difference between them and the ice monsters right away. [SPEAKER_01]: And did.

[SPEAKER_01]: And even though I don't like home and homebag, one of the things that he came in and did today is he's like, do not, now they're standing rule, at least in Minneapolis, for ice and DHS is do not interact with the protesters directly.

[SPEAKER_01]: go go get the national guard people how are they going to show how are they going to shove women on the ground then how will they be able to shove women on the ground why do you think they took this job right but but the fact is that even even somebody as dofy and incompetent when he realizes the unprofessionals and was like dude you've gone even too far for me [SPEAKER_00]: When you've got, you know, you know how stupid they're all they're all stupid.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're all so stupid. [SPEAKER_00]: They think that somehow this will look good in history books. [SPEAKER_00]: Imagine how much Fox News, you've got to watch over a period of two decades to believe that somehow you'll come off looking like a good guy in a history.

[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, when is extreme conservative extreme right wing religious people of any religion in power over any country, ever left them being the good guys in his, throughout history, you said that would be extreme conservative religious. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you say that in your book as well, I believe, although [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do. [SPEAKER_00]: I it's about the new, but the new book I'm writing is all about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean we get we get to watch Stephen Miller and and and Christy gnome go to war with each other here Which is kind of kind of beautiful. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's like succession, but with more racism and bowtocks. [SPEAKER_01]: Steven Miller and it's actually Lewandowski because Lewandowski isn't many ways puppeting gnome because she's just there to be a pretty face. [SPEAKER_01]: Lewandowski is hiding behind her going, do I have a position?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I not have a position? [SPEAKER_01]: No one knows so you can't fire me. [SPEAKER_00]: But think about a woman committing adultery with coerily when dowsky.

[SPEAKER_00]: I like imagine that you're responsible for imagine hang on a second imagine imagine imagine that you are so corrupt your band from setting foot on 26% of your home state because the tribes will not let you on the reservation imagine you murder dogs in the face because you're too stupid and lazy to train them and imagine you're directly responsible for the murder of at least two Americans and those things are still not the most disgusting thing you've ever done in your life.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean [SPEAKER_00]: of all the people to violate your marriage vows with secretary-nome, my god, I like, like, oh, Corey Leewin, Dowski, what Stephen Miller wasn't single and Stephen Miller, who is the human embodiment of a pile of infected dust. [SPEAKER_00]: dictated the language. [SPEAKER_00]: We know this because she threw him under the bus. [SPEAKER_00]: He dictated the language calling this V-A nurse saying he wanted to massacre federal agents.

[SPEAKER_05]: So they've got a story earlier. [SPEAKER_00]: And we know it because Christy Nome, who clearly knows she's on the way out, ratted out on Stephen Miller and Donald Trump and a press conference. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're not going to fire Stephen Miller. [SPEAKER_00]: He has Trump's worm. [SPEAKER_00]: and Sir Hiss all in one, but they'll get rid of her, but he's like eateth Wilson.

[SPEAKER_00]: What's amazing now is an narrative, it's finally for me, that he's like eateth Wilson controlling her delapidated husband in the presidency after Woodrow's stroke. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, the more the narrative gets out, that Stephen Miller is the actual president. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, a more evil-depraved Carl Roe, if you will, the better. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like porn for the angels, folks. [SPEAKER_01]: Keep the pressure on.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but she's been saying that since I think I told her I'm like that once again Jodie has better vision on all of this then each he always she does it so it's the glasses [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we will get joining her glasses and John with his glasses and you with whatever glass of whatever you've got coming back here We got one more round with John Fuegel saying it is a Thursday night here at the politics mark Freshing your drink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, you know, we, we haven't had a little bit more of a positive take today because look, the, the thing that really has driven the ice monsters from, and they're not completely gone from Minneapolis, but has, has definitely knocked things down is the wonderful people who have stood up for each other stood up for their neighbors stood up for their friends stood up for people they don't even know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, kind of like the No Kings protest, third one by the way, schedule from March 28th. [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we're going to get some of the folks from invisible in here. [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about that. [SPEAKER_01]: Make sure everybody is prepped on that. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that there's some some good news in a surprising place, uh, did not expect this. [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, we have, uh, this, I believe down in the, uh, four in a fair section.

[SPEAKER_01]: of the news on tap, well, one of the families of the people who've been getting killed with both strikes. [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, now they're two John and my two families, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Are our sue in the U.S. government, which I'm like good, the more of them that sue them, the better over this type of stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be difficult, but, well, no, it's going to be difficult, because the concert is will, will Donald Trump try to pay these families off to drop the lawsuit. [SPEAKER_00]: That's our biggest question is Donald's that is always always what he does they'll build by their silence with prives, but I mean this is something amazing, you know This week I mean

[SPEAKER_00]: there's so much to have hoped for and and these families are fighting back not on cable news but but an in federal court i mean for the first time people who lost loved ones to Donald Trump and peat had cassettes whoops we murdered you lies and foreign policy are are suing in federal court uh... for the two men chad joseph and rishi samurai who were not terrorists who are not traffickers who are not narco terrorist which is a word these clowns invented so they don't have to learn names uh... they were fishermen

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the Trump playbook, kill people, then call them terrorists, then refuse to answer questions, then wrap it up on a flag and dare anyone to object. [SPEAKER_00]: Now you guys know all about how we're losing 25,000 Americans a day. [SPEAKER_00]: to fentanyl coming from these boats without board motors on the coast. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, fentanyl cocaine. [SPEAKER_00]: We're losing 25,000 Americans. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_00]: What about the, what about that?

[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't heard about the cocaine. [SPEAKER_00]: How? [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: Since we kicked their ass and took their gas, I haven't heard Pete Higgs-Seth bomb a single boat full of civilians. [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't committed any murder. [SPEAKER_00]: The drugs were always the WMDs. [SPEAKER_00]: The pretense for the lie for the illegal invasion and the invasion was never about what they said.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just like Iraq, it was all about theft of natural [SPEAKER_00]: strategic petroleum reserves so it's so positive that they're doing this and it I mean and it's so positive what we're seeing here since July according the post Homeland Security thugs have fired shots 16 times right and every time they fire to shot all 16 times this administration publicly declared the shootings justified before any investigations the difference in many

[SPEAKER_00]: people had phones and the words of the great Rick Hobarton little brother is watching everyone having a phone in their pocket can you imagine the civil rights movement can you imagine Gandhi if everyone during Gandhi's time can you imagine lynching can you imagine throughout our whole through Jim Crow if everyone had a video camera in their pocket

[SPEAKER_00]: And so now the lies don't land well, and this is what Republicans hate because right now 2026 the most powerful weapon against these authoritarians is not a gun. [SPEAKER_00]: It is a camera And and right now the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good citizen with a camera And and you mentioned Greenland too and Minneapolis Look how he's backing down. [SPEAKER_00]: This is the lesson of this last week Trump loses interest [SPEAKER_00]: when domination fails.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: The pattern is there. [SPEAKER_00]: Greenland Minneapolis, both based on lies, both framed as national security, both driven by this micro penis obsession with domination, both collapsing under scrutiny.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when here's Trump, when he's threatened with resistance, instead of with submission, [SPEAKER_00]: he doesn't fight anymore when you fight back when you punch the bully in the nose he gets bored he backs down and moves on he pretends it never mattered so that proves that it's never been about safety it's always been about control [SPEAKER_01]: I got to look into it.

[SPEAKER_01]: We got to ask some of our legal folks a little bit more about the scotists saying that they may look at the E.G. [SPEAKER_01]: and Carroll thing. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, she's a perfect example of somebody who many people would have thought stereotypically didn't have any power and she stood up to him and kicked his ass. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he is, he is the stereotypical bully.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would say in jury of 12 citizens kicked his ass, but I agree. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but I'm obviously she's the one that pressed the case. [SPEAKER_01]: The jury wouldn't have done it if she hadn't gone ahead. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I've known that lady almost 30 years. [SPEAKER_00]: I've known that lady. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't then be seeing morning show with her when I was first starting out. [SPEAKER_01]: No way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, good for her. [SPEAKER_00]: I wish more women would come forward with these stories. [SPEAKER_00]: And we know one thing when when when God is done making Trump's arteries do what they're going to do. [SPEAKER_00]: All Trump's not going to heaven, but I think I've said before on your show a couple of thousand NDA's are going to heaven.

[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are going to be able to tell a lot of truths the next day. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like one X-Wife that's alive. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_00]: Now, that X-Hate, that X-Wife. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not gonna. [SPEAKER_00]: That X-Wife. [SPEAKER_00]: I know her. [SPEAKER_00]: I've worked with her, too. [SPEAKER_00]: She's not the same lady now. [SPEAKER_00]: She was in 2016. [SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't brazed this and sadly, more than eight bulls, has got full maga.

[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, why she's the best mistress, and he whenever humiliated their wife with every night in public for months. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you didn't live in New York in the 90s, you didn't know this, but Donald Trump took his mistress out in front of the paparazzi every night to humiliate the mother of his children. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what made him famous in the early 90s. [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what the right wing Christians are flocking about now.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why it's great with wife number three. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, this movie, it's so great that Jeff Bezos, who's firing 16,000 humans this week, spent $30 million on bribes on a propaganda film because that movie, [SPEAKER_00]: is, uh, hitting American theaters, it's like, it's like Melania's soul is coming to American theaters and I say that because the theaters are empty.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and she actually said in an interview, I think it was yesterday or today, my husband is a unifier. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's unified everybody against him. [SPEAKER_03]: He'll go with that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's a lying racist, and she's awful. [SPEAKER_01]: She's an awful human. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's an awful human. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can still do the thing that sticks to me, that the mental image that sticks to me is that coat.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I don't care. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't really care. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's I'm like, well, we don't really care either well on you. [SPEAKER_01]: And then of course, they had to get rattener to do the movie, which [SPEAKER_00]: who I also went to film school with. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like all these miscarriage. [SPEAKER_00]: I have a history with it's great.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but see you're on the right side of it and they're all like I'm going. [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's one of the someday. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell the story of Brett Rattner and then while you film school he was the most hated person in sight and sound. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was a spoiled rich brat. [SPEAKER_00]: Can I tell you one thing about Brett Rattner? [SPEAKER_00]: We were making three-minute silent films and this this little princely hired a helicopter.

[SPEAKER_00]: He rented a helicopter.

[SPEAKER_00]: for his three like we're like barring wheelchairs from the from the dorms have tracking shots this kid list money bags brat who was later me to it and is bad abstain island he he he paid so what for a helicopter for his three minute silent black and white student film that's the level of bradiness you're dealing with with this guy and yet he was taken back from the brink because if you were a abuser of women Donald Trump has a place for you well and um... there are a bunch of people that worked on the movie that didn't want the credit

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have very on the credit very mixed feelings about that. [SPEAKER_00]: I know you've got to feed your you got to feed your family, but guess what ringo you work you took the check from those people. [SPEAKER_00]: You can have your name on the credit. [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Alan Smithy this. [SPEAKER_00]: How many people. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many people and I mean, that works on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could be anonymous, but when you're taking a paycheck. [SPEAKER_00]: No, coward. [SPEAKER_00]: So don't hide it, you know, give your reasons and if it's a good reason fine, but it's like, you know, whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people They're not going to they're not going to stalk you because you worked on a millennium movie. [SPEAKER_00]: They're just going to have less respect for you. [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if you have a good reason.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, somebody asked me was really, why the hell would you go or work for Laura Ingram? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a goal. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_01]: They came after me three times because they were absolutely desperate and they knew that I was professional. [SPEAKER_00]: And they knew even if I wasn't going to spend this man lots and then radio and TV and broadcasting lots of good people have to do that. [SPEAKER_00]: I know so many good people who work for Fox.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know so many good people who work for for newsmen. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know, but so many good people work for news nation, which is now becoming Fox. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't regret anyone for that. [SPEAKER_00]: I've worked for things. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe it. [SPEAKER_01]: I admittedly, I mean, that's how you kind of you helped me through that period, which was great.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact of the matter is, as you get into your 50s, it's not so much fun getting up at O'God 30 in overnight throwing freaking boxes in a warehouse in your 40s and 50s and things. [SPEAKER_01]: It was the idea of, do you want to actually go back and work in the craft for which you have trained and worked for, you know, however many years at that point?

[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you want to, you know, stay in a warehouse in [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not judging you, Sean, for working for Laura Ingraham. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know that, but I, but it is funny, because I have, you know, I've had that, that discussion with somebody and they're like, wow. [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, yeah, I said, I'm a professional. [SPEAKER_00]: It's what I do and I host in a fundraiser for Donald Trump 20 years ago. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't get to tell you anybody for anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, although I still, I still find a lot of, I still find a lot of humor in the fact that I think his entire political career is just based on the fact that Barack Obama owned him so hard. [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I have scores upon it's hitter. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think his entire political career is that Deutsche Bank owns two billion dollars in his debt.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and in the nineties he was the king of debt the king of debt and suddenly in the zeroes He's paying cash for paying cash for everything and his son's Fredo and Fredo are out there saying most of our revenue comes from Russia No, so something happens Around the why two k that changed his entire thing and you know Robert Mueller hired a money laundering guy They never pursued it so until someone gets serious about following the money we're never gonna know

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, true. [SPEAKER_01]: I looked at the fact that accountability, as you noted, as we've been saying here at the bar here for months now, accountability does not come necessarily on the terms and the time that we would like, but as long as people keep pursuing it, there's all kinds of accountability. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, accountability is going to be what gets Democrats elected. [SPEAKER_00]: Anyone who says play nice is not going to make any money.

[SPEAKER_00]: Believe me, Republicans are not going to be turning out in large numbers. [SPEAKER_00]: This particular year, just like they didn't in 22, just like they didn't in 18 friends and the folks who come in from the, from the woods come in from the mountains, coming from the swamps when Mr. Trump is on the ballot will not be showing up. [SPEAKER_00]: So the Democrats who are promising hands on Bibles, I say this all the time, but it's true.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to break in all the fundraising. [SPEAKER_00]: the ones who make noise are going to be popular the ones who talk about treating this is normal and normalizing this, you know, I just don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, it was this bad under push in Cheney. [SPEAKER_00]: That's not forget.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like we thought the world was ending under push in Cheney and all those criminals in the Senate kept their jobs after pushing Cheney went home and took all the blame.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you're never going to get all the revenge your art desires on these people and Donald Trump is probably going to die before he ever [SPEAKER_00]: I'll settle for intelligence and decency setting foreign policy for a couple of years and again as soon as there's another Democrat in the office It's going to be just like to it 2009.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Republicans will never get someone to office again after this disaster that trashed our economy killed so many people All it takes is some new hype and a new Blovating strongman to lie to these white guys and give them the same bill of goods. [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to happen all over again And the mainstream media running in carrying a water form [SPEAKER_00]: That'll be it. [SPEAKER_00]: The next Republican nominee will be Kid Rock's hepatitis.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the only way to go. [SPEAKER_01]: John, we always love having you here, man. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead over to Series XM and do your show there this evening. [SPEAKER_01]: I believe. [SPEAKER_01]: Are we having our usual Thursday night friends in the studios this evening? [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, Julie Frenchella and Simon Roya Smith will be joining us tonight for our indigenous affairs segment.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have lots of thoughts on Minneapolis because indigenous people have seen it all before. [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: I love that. [SPEAKER_01]: So if you leave in the bar, head over and see John over there, it's in that series exam. [SPEAKER_01]: John will see you next Thursday night. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you both so much, peace. [SPEAKER_01]: Peace. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you guys tomorrow night here at Pulitzer School.