Integrity Matters October 23 2025

[SPEAKER_07]: It's political Thinking radical Think it's a far away But you are the politics Shotsmith, Pearson, Jodie Hamilton Jodie, Jodie, Jodie Johnny, Jodie Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, Johnny [SPEAKER_06]: It's Thursday. [SPEAKER_06]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: We, uh, we have a very good drink today. [SPEAKER_02]: I am 34 and after all, you know, Thursday Thursday. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you like at a bar generally speaking.

[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, we also have to have a couple of very good guests, little fire brimstone, little fire, which you'll all show a little brimstone, but Sean, if you go say, which if you know the meaning of brimstone, if you actually know what it is, that makes sense. [SPEAKER_02]: And no, it's not just sulfur. [SPEAKER_02]: You got to know your biblical stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: You should read John's book. [SPEAKER_02]: They haven't already.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In which case, hey, you know, whatever's going on now, hopefully you're still going to have fun with us, even though, you know, may not be exactly, you know, news moves really fast these days. [SPEAKER_02]: Good night. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a ton of it. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm really proud today of, you know, I'm proud generally every day of what we do with the news on tap where we are trying to make sure that you guys are informed. [SPEAKER_02]: You got all your stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what's going down. [SPEAKER_02]: But honestly, I think we did really, really well today, Jodie. [SPEAKER_06]: Getting up at 2 a.m. helps, I don't know, she got up a little bit early today.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, got up at 2. [SPEAKER_02]: again up to I did not get up to I was I was sound asleep then, but there is so much going on obviously there's the destruction of the White House there's some other destruction going on too that a lot of people did not know about obviously a Trump Republican shutdown going on Trump's pissing off rancher still the ice monsters are rolling out there there's a lot of stuff if you haven't read up

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's just... No, when we were talking on Bob's show, he was like hoping that they were going to save some [SPEAKER_02]: I would hope that they already had save some stuff before they knocked it down because you really, I mean, after you knock it down, you can't I don't think so. [SPEAKER_06]: That's my brain. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it doesn't value anything that's not his. [SPEAKER_02]: This is true.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's the, uh, what was the, a bond with teller building in New York that is infamous for a beautiful art deco and Trump knocked that sucker down said said he was going to give him a fresh goes to I can't remember who it was. [SPEAKER_02]: And they got that script knock the whole thing down. [SPEAKER_02]: thing is that it's not all up to him. [SPEAKER_02]: It is also there are other people there.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think some of that stuff, especially because some of that stuff is preservationists and some of the people who are actually in the White House and that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_02]: So I do think that maybe [SPEAKER_06]: You have a more faith in the people that are working there than they can get away with saving stuff than I do. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I have faith in some of the actual people. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I have faith in the people that not in Trump and not in maggots.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we are living right now in the crap world that the maggots voted for.

[SPEAKER_02]: this this is the world that they voted for you like higher prices maggots you voted for this you like the white house being knocked down you voted for that too oh you like the government being closed and programs that you need not being there you voted for that too oh by the way you like the ice monsters roaming around not just in big cities and smaller towns too you like that you voted for that oh by the way schools having

[SPEAKER_02]: their whole list of priorities and what they teach people being input by the government. [SPEAKER_02]: You voted for that. [SPEAKER_02]: Guess what? [SPEAKER_02]: Some of the schools are actually going along with that, including the University of Virginia here. [SPEAKER_02]: How about starting wars with Central and South American countries? [SPEAKER_02]: You voted for that too, maggots. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm a little pissed off.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, the company apparently that was hired to do the demolition is getting a lot of grief. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm fine with that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's story in the news on tap yesterday and if you guys want to follow that story, go yesterday's edition of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: You can follow it and you can find out where you can also post nasty negative reviews about this company. [SPEAKER_06]: You know why?

[SPEAKER_06]: Because they could have said no. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Judi is right. [SPEAKER_06]: I think that was my argument with Bob the today is well, it's not their fault. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, yeah, it's their fault. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: They could have said no. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't win.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you're with a group of people a mob of people and they say oh, yeah, oh, yeah, and they're trying to go you into doing something that you know you're not supposed to do it's still your responsibility to say no [SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes, if it's something like knocking down the White House, it's not just a responsibility You say no, but hell no. [SPEAKER_06]: And they're upset that people are giving him grief.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, but you guys just, the CEOs and the people that run it, not the people that are doing the job because they're, I mean, again, they could also walk away. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but that, I, see, I was going to say, I don't, I don't even give those people. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they can walk away. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't have to show up either. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I have worked. [SPEAKER_02]: For those people who go, oh, but, you know, jobs are hard to find.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking about jobs. [SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking about money. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you guys want to subscribe to the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_02]: We would love that, please. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: $6 a month inexpensive. [SPEAKER_02]: You'll love it. [SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I have had to. [SPEAKER_02]: So when I was, this was now about a decade ago.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so at that time, I was working on the radio roadshow. [SPEAKER_02]: She decided for reasons we won't go into to walk away at that time. [SPEAKER_02]: I remember, and while I'm glad that she fought to make sure that me and the other staffers that we got severance, um, it still wasn't exactly an easy time, and especially because I was in South Florida and I wanted to be continue working in national media, and there wasn't anything in South Florida at the time.

[SPEAKER_02]: There was nothing legitimate, nothing there. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I had to pick myself in my wife up, and we had to move to Washington, DC, which we got some help with some friends, but it was very expensive. [SPEAKER_02]: It was a huge punch to the gut. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got here, and I went around all my contacts and all my friends, and all the people who had said that they would help me when I needed help. [SPEAKER_02]: And I didn't get a whole lot of help.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I ended up throwing boxes overnight at a target warehouse. [SPEAKER_02]: In my 40s, in my mid 40s, because that's what you got to do, because when you pick got to pay your bills, the people you owe your money to, they don't give a damn what you got to do.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I understand being in situations I have walked away from other jobs that's that's a you know what I just explained was a little bit more visceral for some folks but I've walked away from jobs and had to go do similar things go work a crap job go remember I said yesterday I worked at Nellnet yeah I have had these kind of situations where I had to work in places I didn't like [SPEAKER_02]: So when somebody says to me, if they walk away, they get fired.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they become heroes in my eyes. [SPEAKER_02]: Either you have integrity or you don't. [SPEAKER_02]: Integrity is one of those things like pregnancy. [SPEAKER_02]: Either you have it or you don't. [SPEAKER_02]: Either you're there or you're not. [SPEAKER_02]: If you're pregnant, you're pregnant. [SPEAKER_02]: If you have integrity, you have integrity. [SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't, you don't. [SPEAKER_02]: And people say, God, that's expensive.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: You've told me about, I don't know, how many different situations sets that you've been on, shoots that you've been on, where certain things happen in certain people who were, even your bosses did things they weren't supposed to. [SPEAKER_02]: And look, integrity is expensive, but it's worth it. [SPEAKER_02]: because some of the other jobs that I've gotten since some of the stuff that happened back in the day other stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that I got the jobs in part because my reputation is still. [SPEAKER_02]: Among people who work, I have a pretty good reputation. [SPEAKER_02]: And among people who have some authority, they think I'm an A-hole. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like your favorite local bartender probably, you know, you get to know me. [SPEAKER_02]: You like me and somebody else who comes in and they're like, God, he's an A-hole. [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: And. [SPEAKER_02]: That works.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I mean, this, this company I put it on my Facebook page and like go out of. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: They had choices. [SPEAKER_06]: They had choices and it's like. [SPEAKER_02]: They had choices. [SPEAKER_02]: The workers had choices and the people who are on list. [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to know which corporations are backing this. [SPEAKER_06]: Met a being one, by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: Apple, unfortunately, being another.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of corporations on that list. [SPEAKER_02]: We have the rest of the people who are, yeah, basically trying to bribe their way into Trump's ballroom. [SPEAKER_02]: That is in the news on tap today into that first round, Trump's destruction of America. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, he's not just destroying the White House.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, there were some leaked documents that detail the Trump regime's plans to open East and West Coast areas to offshore oil drilling. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, we didn't exactly tie this in the news on tap today, because there wasn't really an easy tie. [SPEAKER_02]: But if you jump down a little bit, you jump down to the foreign affairs section. [SPEAKER_02]: So the Trump administration, which, you know, it's not like they usually do this.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a first time, really. [SPEAKER_02]: They are sanctioning Russian oil giants as an efft and luco oil. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but here's the thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember Trump is a drill baby drill, kind of guy, and in order to get US and Western companies, non-Russian companies, to want to drill, because most of them don't want to, because the world loyal markets have been somewhat stable, and it's just went up because of the whole sanctions.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, the prices in the oil markets went up because of the sanctions and how will they lower the prices? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they'll drill more, and conveniently guess what? [SPEAKER_02]: Like we just said, Trump's got these new maps. [SPEAKER_02]: His regime doesn't say, say, here, you can drill. [SPEAKER_06]: But they have like 9,000 leases that they're already not using. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: You're right. [SPEAKER_02]: So why?

[SPEAKER_02]: Think the whole thing through, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because Trump and his kind of the kind of people that Trump hangs with, the kind of people who Trump is. [SPEAKER_02]: They say, well, I have something to sell. [SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, you should buy it for me. [SPEAKER_02]: And you go, what I got 9,000 of them at home, say the oil companies, I got 9,000 leases at home. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to buy another one from you, but I'm selling, so you must buy.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's Trump's mentality. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm selling, so you must buy. [SPEAKER_02]: Because who does that benefit? [SPEAKER_02]: Him. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly, always. [SPEAKER_06]: And by the way, with the Steven Ballroom, he claims that these donors are gonna pay for it. [SPEAKER_06]: We're gonna end up paying for it. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody's right on that one. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Those guys are paying him.

[SPEAKER_06]: They're not paying for the wall. [SPEAKER_06]: They're paying him directly. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't take his pockets with that. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: That is, that is the whole thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is just like I was going to say. [SPEAKER_02]: The modern Republican motto. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's five words. [SPEAKER_02]: It's small enough and short enough that even the dumbass mag is going to remember this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've got mine, FU. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what they think about you and me and everybody else. [SPEAKER_02]: That's what they think about, you know, former Republicans, good Republicans. [SPEAKER_02]: People who don't vote for Trump, non-Trump Republicans, or people who used to be Republicans, and then became Democrats and, well, or independence, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like Joe Walsh, who conveniently, by the way, Joe Walsh is going to be here tonight.

[SPEAKER_02]: We are also going to have John Fughosang, as we mentioned.

[SPEAKER_02]: gonna give a little at fire on brimstone out got got a little bit to talk about because you know there is some stuff going on today so uh... you know i just the pictures of the white house being knocked down still there's one that Joe posted on it's an overhead shot and you can see the whole east wing is gone it's gone and they've said it would be gone in a couple of days it's gone today it's basically gone now yeah it's they just took down the hallway between the main building and the way i've walked in that hallway i've

[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it got pretty much anybody who's a decent American. [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, any of you. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, here's the thing, we're going to go clean some stuff up, clean up some glasses. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Walsh is going to be here, and we will talk about him. [SPEAKER_02]: He's got, by the way, a something he hates, pretty much every Democrat, who is running for office. [SPEAKER_02]: Should be behind.

[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a winning slogan, and I 100% think he's right. [SPEAKER_06]: He is right. [SPEAKER_02]: So, we're going to talk about that next. [SPEAKER_02]: Joe Walsh, coming back on Thursday night with you me and Jodi. [SPEAKER_02]: Here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_08]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: First, they're nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Joe, honestly, we were all talking as you came into the bar and I think we're on the same mode where it's very hard for us not to swear, even though we're on broadcast radio because looking at the White House saw that the picture you posted earlier this afternoon with the overhead shot and the whole East Wing gone and it's [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, it's going to be with you too.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I... [SPEAKER_00]: Generally, people have me on TV and elsewhere because I tend to get really wound up and fired up and I yell and I scream and I shout and I get pissed off. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, Jodie. [SPEAKER_00]: But I got to be asked, guys, I'm probably allows you to guess today because I'm just profoundly sad. [SPEAKER_00]: Same. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still, I haven't reached the anger stage with what he's done to the White House.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm profoundly sad and I've said this before, I said it on, I think, CNN two nights [SPEAKER_00]: I have the same pit in my stomach that I had on January 6th. [SPEAKER_00]: This is the other people's house. [SPEAKER_00]: And one madman against all authority is destroying one of our people's houses. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, you look at the images, I'm just, I have a pit in my stomach.

[SPEAKER_00]: it came really johnson actually tweeted out or whatever out on posted out right uh... donald did with us on a bin Laden couldn't uh... well well joney that's that's harsh but so what that when you look at the image it's like the white house was hit by an attack yeah yeah it looks like white house down one of those movies like that it is just a little i'm i'm i'm

[SPEAKER_00]: look again broken record right Donald Trump is the utter the absolute worst of us he's everything our founders feared he's he's what he is if i'm angry and i am angry about something i'm angry at all of his enablers and who for ten years have just let this guy do whatever he wants i say this often i think you guys probably agree um trump trump's like a [SPEAKER_00]: with parents who've trained him to scream for whatever he wants.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a two-year-old who's parents have never disciplined him. [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a 30-day. [SPEAKER_00]: He just responds. [SPEAKER_00]: The people who are responsible for this man are his enablers who what him get to this point. [SPEAKER_02]: You've got a great piece in your sub-stack, by the way, that we linked to today in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: Title of Trump begins demolishing the Washington Monument next week to make it a Trump [SPEAKER_06]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you're right, you're right. [SPEAKER_00]: But no, but do you, Jody and Sean, that I mean, we're friends, but I mean, really, if I mean, I be honest with me, if he began to tear down the monument, Washington monument next week, because he didn't like the way it looked, do you think Republicans would respond or not? [SPEAKER_06]: I think they would be making excuses just like they are right now. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it depends on the kind of Republican.

[SPEAKER_02]: People like Michael steel would be as pissed as all the rest of us. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm saying the Republicans in Congress. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, what I refer to them, and I do refer to them to riceively as maggots. [SPEAKER_02]: And I know you used to be a maga fireman, but I refer to them to riceively as maggots in part because it pisses them off. [SPEAKER_02]: And in part because, quite frankly, I do think of them as lowly as dumb and slow.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they let their anger, [SPEAKER_02]: override any level of basic intelligence that they have, they let their fear override any level of, look Donald Trump is a bully. [SPEAKER_02]: We all know that he's a bully and whether anybody wants to admit it or not, there's a spectrum. [SPEAKER_02]: When somebody doesn't alone, we call him a bully. [SPEAKER_02]: When they do him the high end, we call him a terrorist, but it's the same spectrum. [SPEAKER_02]: This is who they are.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the only way that people like that learn is when you stand up to them. [SPEAKER_02]: If you acquiesce to them, if you give in to them, if you bend the knee, they're just going to get worse and keep doing a crap that they do. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, right Sean, you're right, but Jody, Jody nailed it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, if he began, [SPEAKER_00]: tearing down the Washington monument next week, I don't think one Republican in the house or the Senate would say anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's mind blowing kind of isn't it? [SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe one would. [SPEAKER_06]: Somebody we don't know that person is somebody that's not like. [SPEAKER_02]: or somebody like what's his name from South Carolina who is leaving tilless for example might say well I'm I'm piece out anyway so I don't need her because she's leaving too I mean certain people are out of anybody anybody politically who has any stakes no I don't think any of them would which is mind blowing yes

[SPEAKER_02]: But I've been on your your train on this since the moment this happens and I saw you tweet this out I think it was the same evening night that we saw this first here a couple nights ago You've got some advice for any Democrat and especially in the any Democrat running for president But any Democrat who is running about the White House and I saw this you said Something the effect of if any Democrat wants to win

[SPEAKER_02]: run on the fact that we will knock down that crap ass ball room. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we will return the east wing to the way it was, and we will return the rose garden of the way it was, make that a point of your platform when you run and you're gonna win and I think you're right. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Sean Jody, I'm serious when I said that like, like, I know if I'm a Democrat now, if I were to vote for president in 28, [SPEAKER_00]: Hell yes, this would be my number one action item and I know I've I've caught a lot of grief about that from seriously mark democratic consultants who say Joe well that's silly and and really I mean really you're gonna you're gonna become president and then tear down a 253 hundred million dollar ballroom Joe that's silly blah blah blah

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm serious because I think this is like this is like the dividing line. [SPEAKER_00]: This is like it [SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't, but you know what, Sean Jodie, no Republican, excuse me, no Democrat running for president will say what I just said.

[SPEAKER_06]: It might be part of their agenda, there are other things, obviously, like the Nuremberg style trials that we need to do, but I think that there are a lot of Democrats that will run and go, look, women that restore the Rose Garden. [SPEAKER_06]: That'll be part of it. [SPEAKER_00]: Easy, what's easy, that's easy, I'm talking about. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm what you're pushing on. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you on that Jodie and I'm with you on that Joe.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with both of you on on pushing and not that thing down. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think the biggest reason why this is hit so many people even magas who are who are stunned now. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're going, man, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I this isn't the world I voted for, which I'm like, yes, yes, sweet cheeks. [SPEAKER_02]: This is the world you voted for.

[SPEAKER_02]: But, um, [SPEAKER_02]: of the three of us, paying in here in the bar right now, Jody up at the microphones. [SPEAKER_02]: You're the one who's worked in entertainment the longest. [SPEAKER_02]: The reason in those movies that they destroy the white, the reason why in what was Independence Day, that the main movie poster was the laser blowing up the White House is because it's so visceral, correct, am I right on that? [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's visceral when White House down, Olympus is down, all those movies, it's people look at that and go, no, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_06]: And then you find out like in White House down, I think it was this one guy that's giving the tour to all the tourists explains how it was burned down once and explains how Truman had to rebuild it from the inside because it was falling apart. [SPEAKER_06]: People are bringing up the Truman rebuild like, oh, he did it.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's like, [SPEAKER_06]: he saved the building. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the the other one. [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, the other really important distinction here is this. [SPEAKER_00]: And this is really important. [SPEAKER_00]: Trump didn't have the authority to do that. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a process. [SPEAKER_00]: There's a procedure.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's vetting, there's permits, there's approval, there's historic commissions, there's Congress, Truman, every other person who's made any other structural change to the White House has gone through the process. [SPEAKER_00]: Until Obama did that with a basketball court. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And that was nothing. [SPEAKER_06]: That was just turning a tennis court into a basketball court. [SPEAKER_06]: That just repays nothing. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_06]: Putting in some hoops and changing the paint. [SPEAKER_06]: That's nothing. [SPEAKER_06]: But the thing is, we were talking earlier about the construction company that's demolishing the White House. [SPEAKER_06]: They're getting a lot of grief online. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm for all the grief they're getting because they didn't have to say yes. [SPEAKER_06]: And neither did the people that are doing it on their behalf.

[SPEAKER_06]: They all could have said, nope, I'm not destroying the house. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not going to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: That's [SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm glad you're I'm glad we're friends with you. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad we have you in the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you know we that although we want to have you in the bar more often, but we're glad you hang out with people like Charlie Pierce and Bob Cesca and you go to some more and Stephanie Miller.

[SPEAKER_02]: because of the fact that you could have kept doing what you were doing. [SPEAKER_02]: You could have kept being a mega-protender. [SPEAKER_02]: And we know by talking to Sherry Jakobas and talking to Bruce Bartlett, that there are a lot of these mega-protenders that are out there. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't really believe this stuff, and they think poorly of Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_02]: but they keep playing the role because they're keep making money.

[SPEAKER_02]: You said, you know what, I know it's gonna cost me friends, I know it's gonna cost me financially, I know it's gonna cost me business-wise. [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm gonna do the right thing anyway. [SPEAKER_06]: Right, and that's integrity. [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I took a blowtorch to my career. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you did. [SPEAKER_00]: No doubt.

[SPEAKER_02]: But you got integrity there there are people like us there a whole pile of people like us who didn't necessarily like you before who even though we don't agree on all the stuff we'd be like hell yeah he can come to the bus and how we'll let him drive occasionally because when you got integrity man I will say though disagreeing with some of my never trump or friends yeah there are still a lot of republicans who privately badmouth trump

[SPEAKER_00]: But the number of true maga believers that now have been elected is way more than it should. [SPEAKER_00]: There was four, five or six years ago. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: Smaga maga is the party now. [SPEAKER_00]: It's not on the fringe. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's, and it's.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is shocking, but I think that's what integrity is, it partially does, is it was it Obama, I think it was Obama, who said that the presidency amplifies who you are, who you always were. [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't change you, it amplifies who you were, and I think power in general does that. [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, a lot of these mega people got elected, they got power now. [SPEAKER_02]: But we're able to see that they were always not great people.

[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, you know, they don't have integrity and you do and that's a huge thing that I think people need to pay attention to and go, you know, integrity has cost, but you can come back. [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but the money, the money and the payment of power is all there, or it's on another degree, it's on the far left. [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to be kind of in the middle, but I've been a Democrat now four and a half months and I have to join it. [SPEAKER_00]: Every day is a struggle.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't talk about it enough. [SPEAKER_00]: but I don't think my party, my new party, especially the leadership in the establishment, is meeting this moment. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: This moment, right? [SPEAKER_02]: There are leaders within the party that are doing some good things, but not necessarily always the people who are in positions of power.

[SPEAKER_02]: And even some of the people who are leading on topic X might not be leading on topic Y. [SPEAKER_02]: We're absolutely imperfect in this party. [SPEAKER_02]: We are a completely big group of totally imperfect beings. [SPEAKER_06]: It don't do, don't march to the same drum. [SPEAKER_02]: But we are generally trying to get to a better nation. [SPEAKER_02]: And I kind of think that. [SPEAKER_06]: More perfect union, maybe. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, there you go.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: True. [SPEAKER_00]: My new party needs to learn how to fight, though. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: God, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree completely. [SPEAKER_00]: And the voices look, I came Jeffries and Schumer. [SPEAKER_00]: I maybe one day, but man, I'll tell you what, those aren't the voices that are inspiring me to do anything. [SPEAKER_02]: We've been given them credit where to, and obviously criticism too.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am glad that they have played this with the shutdown, the way that they have. [SPEAKER_02]: They have done much better with the shutdown than I think anybody expected them to. [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. [SPEAKER_02]: But especially as far as you're saying for motivating and for I mean my god virtually every Democrat has endorsed Memdani and I came Jeffries still is like I might I might do the election is less than two weeks. [SPEAKER_06]: It starts on Tuesday.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, that one just guys just blows me away. [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know me, we probably disagree on this real. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm off the charts, Pro is real. [SPEAKER_00]: But the minute, man, Danny won that primary as a Democrat, I endorse, man, Danny. [SPEAKER_00]: He's a Democratic nominee. [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing, guys? [SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing? [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_06]: And these are a Schumer and Jeffries are from New York.

[SPEAKER_02]: You would think I mean that's exactly it's it's mind blowing on that we may not be as far away on Israel as you think I mean because I know that you don't you know Deal with my far away Sean Okay, maybe we are maybe we are look we got we got more time if you can hang around for another round can you? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, Joe Walsh hanging out with Jody and me and you here on a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_02]: We are very glad.

[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, we have a great drink of the dates and Apple related drink. [SPEAKER_02]: Even though we're a little pissed at the company right now, we'll talk about that later. [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk more with Joe Walsh when we come back. [SPEAKER_02]: Fresh enough of your drink. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a Thursday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but can I Sean Jodie can I apologize again? [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. [SPEAKER_00]: But it's the Irish Catholic boy in me. [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I'm just a lousy freaking guest.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no [SPEAKER_06]: Bin Laden wanted and didn't get and Donald did it for him right like I keep I keep thinking

[SPEAKER_00]: because I engage with maga every day, because I used to be maga, like what's going to wake them up? [SPEAKER_00]: What will wake some of them up? [SPEAKER_00]: What will move some of them off of him? [SPEAKER_00]: I generally believe only real economic pain. [SPEAKER_06]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: Or small economic pain. [SPEAKER_00]: Which is coming. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll move some of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but these images, I do believe these images, as I believe the images of him, grabbing brown and black people off of our streets and throwing them in bands. [SPEAKER_00]: those videos and images I know are moving voters as well. [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe these images will do the same. [SPEAKER_06]: I hope so. [SPEAKER_06]: I hope you're right. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I do have a friend that lives in Alabama and he's now.

[SPEAKER_06]: He's regretting his vote for Donald because friends of his are getting picked up off the streets. [SPEAKER_02]: And I know that it's it's been interesting to watch on God, it wasn't CNN. [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember another one. [SPEAKER_02]: They sent a correspondent to Nebraska to talk to the ranchers. [SPEAKER_02]: And the farmers have been pissed and rightfully so. [SPEAKER_02]: Because although, you know, look, we told the farmers and a lot of the world voters.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you vote for Trump, he is going to instant. [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to do what he said he was going to do. [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to institute the tariffs again. [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to screw you like he did during the first regime. [SPEAKER_02]: and on or no. [SPEAKER_02]: So he screwed the farmers. [SPEAKER_02]: But now the ranchers, especially with this Argentinian beef thing will make Argentina great again.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_02]: I love that. [SPEAKER_06]: That's the new Americas. [SPEAKER_06]: Make Argentina great again. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you know, you and I are our Midwest boys, Joe. [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, you know, we know we know people who are in the Midwest. [SPEAKER_02]: And the ranchers, some of them are still loved. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I still agree with them on some things.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this is starting to hit them too. [SPEAKER_00]: It is when I ran against Trump in 2020, I spent a lot of time campaigning and I were talking to farmers and I had a hard time budging any of them off of him. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: Even though even in Trump one farmers were hurt, I can tell you, maybe you guys have had the same experience. [SPEAKER_00]: I've talked to farmers in the last few weeks.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting hammered, but they're not as enthusiastic. [SPEAKER_00]: There is some movement there. [SPEAKER_06]: One then with insurance rates going through the roof starting in a couple of weeks, that's a, according to a report out of Idaho, 75% increase if you're on the exchange.

[SPEAKER_06]: or Georgia I mean it's and these are this is red I mean Idaho is ruby red and these all voted for this man and and the Republicans that are in the house which also passed this and it's just like sorry guys you voted for this sorry [SPEAKER_00]: So I was wrong. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I advised Democrats not to fight on this shutdown fight, just keep the government going. [SPEAKER_00]: Trump's destroying the economy single-handedly.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to complicate that narrative. [SPEAKER_00]: Sean, you're right, Democrats have done better with this shutdown than I thought. [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_00]: I still worry about it, though, because Trump can change on a dime. [SPEAKER_02]: I do too, but our listeners, we've been talking about this with a lot of people and making sure that the folks who are here in the bar who message with us on all this, they really help us boil it down to three things.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the three asks or really demands of the Democrats. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure they're going to win on at least two of them. [SPEAKER_02]: The base level ask is something that people come up with it. [SPEAKER_02]: They call it no back seats. [SPEAKER_02]: No back seats, no resisions. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, you make a deal. [SPEAKER_02]: Make a deal. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't do the damn thing and let Russ vote, go in and make cuts later, screw that.

[SPEAKER_02]: You make a deal beyond us to about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Thing number two, bring back the ACA subsidies, thing number three, give us back the money from the Medicare and the Medicaid that they took in the big ugly bill. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to get three. [SPEAKER_02]: They absolutely have to get Democrats, absolutely have to get number one. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're also going to get number two.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised you too that Trump and the House Republicans have held out here for so long. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I've said repeatedly over the last few weeks that the Senate has the capability of just saying no filibuster for this and they could vote for that. [SPEAKER_06]: So if they want to open the government, they can vote for the bill that is sitting on their desk. [SPEAKER_06]: They just choose to accept the filibuster because it makes them not have to do what they want to do.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and as somebody who used to be there, Joe, wouldn't it, isn't it like it used to be? [SPEAKER_02]: If there was something that most of the Republicans didn't want to vote for, but you could lose, say, half dozen Republicans, they're retiring whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: The move would be, look, we know it needs to be done, but a lot of these people don't want to do it. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll let those six do it, like if the numbers were as they are.

[SPEAKER_06]: Felicity did the same with certain people. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: But if Ty Johnson actually knew what the hell he was doing, he would let half dozen of Republicans vote with the Democrats and then toss that sucker over to the Senate. [SPEAKER_02]: And they could go ahead and do it on 51 and they don't only have to get four. [SPEAKER_02]: Am I wrong? [SPEAKER_02]: Is that how you used to work to do things? [SPEAKER_00]: And actually, Sean, the house is there.

[SPEAKER_00]: The house is there. [SPEAKER_00]: The house is no longer a problem because those votes are there. [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it is a joney's right. [SPEAKER_00]: It is the Senate. [SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with you, Joney. [SPEAKER_00]: If I were the Democrats from day one, I would have said, I would have given Republicans the middle finger. [SPEAKER_00]: You control all of the federal government. [SPEAKER_00]: Get rid of the filibuster, man. [SPEAKER_00]: You do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Go, who cares? [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not an institutionalist to begin with. [SPEAKER_00]: Who needs the bill? [SPEAKER_00]: Get rid of it. [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have done that if I were a Democratic member. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, if you wanted to do a filibuster, do Mr. Smith goes to Washington, do what Al Franken wants. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, a real filibuster versus just an email saying, I'm filibustering, and the other 39 people don't have to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and the dirty little secret is both parties in the same way. [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, worship this. [SPEAKER_00]: I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: thing called the filibuster. [SPEAKER_00]: I say this as a former house member senators are snabs. [SPEAKER_00]: They look balanced. [SPEAKER_00]: They think they're like a more Augusta group. [SPEAKER_00]: So we have this thing called the filibuster. [SPEAKER_00]: Nah, nah, nah. [SPEAKER_06]: It's been nuked for the Supreme Court.

[SPEAKER_06]: It's been nuked for other things. [SPEAKER_06]: So why not? [SPEAKER_00]: Everything but legislation. [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_06]: And it matters more for the Supreme Court as far as I am concerned. [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody, as somebody who used to walk those halls, you're like, dude, you guys could do this anytime you want. [SPEAKER_02]: Anytime. [SPEAKER_02]: They have the votes.

[SPEAKER_02]: And that means all these people who are suffering out there, they're suffering needlessly because Republicans could do this anytime they want. [SPEAKER_02]: They just don't want. [SPEAKER_06]: They're using the filibuster to say, oh, it's the Democrats' fault. [SPEAKER_02]: They want to play politics as opposed to helping the people, which [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, every I often wrestle and my really a Democrat and my really a Democrat, I disagree Democrats on lots of policy.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm a Democrat because the Democrats still believe in democracy, the Constitution, pluralism, and basic human decency, and all of this is under attack right now. [SPEAKER_00]: And I want Democrats to speak with that passion because the American people need to hear that passion. [SPEAKER_00]: I love you, too, but I gotta go. [SPEAKER_06]: It's okay. [SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no, no, please. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you so much for doing this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Please don't talk about that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Sean. [SPEAKER_00]: I was a bad guest and I'm leaving early. [SPEAKER_02]: You were better than you think. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll clean your drinks and have some fun. [SPEAKER_02]: No worry about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I will say this though. [SPEAKER_02]: Since you gotta go do another media hit, just make sure that you make it a shorter time until the next time you come back to the bar.

[SPEAKER_00]: Only if you guys invite me again. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely, we will. [SPEAKER_06]: Hell yeah, you can. [SPEAKER_06]: We love wrestling. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, thank you so much. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, much, man. [SPEAKER_02]: Have you seen the good rest of the evening? [SPEAKER_02]: You take care, man. [SPEAKER_06]: Thanks, guys. [SPEAKER_02]: Bye. [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks. [SPEAKER_02]: Always good to have Joe Walsh here. [SPEAKER_02]: Love both. [SPEAKER_02]: Having him on our show.

[SPEAKER_06]: I do. [SPEAKER_06]: He's wonderful. [SPEAKER_06]: And I understand his, um, because yes, he's normally more Malcolm Nancy about things. [SPEAKER_02]: Saudi mixed out face. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, who we are. [SPEAKER_06]: He's he's sad right now. [SPEAKER_06]: Like most of the country is. [SPEAKER_02]: I understand the sadness, um, and in this part of grief, we need to start with, and then you go through the seven, you know, yeah, everybody travels through their grief differently.

[SPEAKER_02]: For me, um, the anger is there, the anger is, I'm, I'm like the Hulk. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, you know, the, the old question of, you know, hey, Banner, you'll have to get angry and he says, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm always angry because I really am. [SPEAKER_02]: I am angry because of all the things that I listed here at the top of the show. [SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that none of this crap had to be this way.

[SPEAKER_02]: All people had to do. [SPEAKER_06]: What's both for Kamala? [SPEAKER_02]: For Kamala. [SPEAKER_06]: That's it. [SPEAKER_02]: All you had to do was vote for Kamala and Tim. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that goddamn complicated. [SPEAKER_02]: All you had to do, [SPEAKER_02]: take it even back even a little bit more. [SPEAKER_02]: Take people at their word, as far as what they said, what Democrats and Republicans said.

[SPEAKER_02]: What Kamalan Tim said, but also what all the Democrats who were running for Congress said. [SPEAKER_02]: Now I get, we've been mentioning it. [SPEAKER_02]: I know that Chris Hayes' book came out a while ago and he's been re-promoting it. [SPEAKER_02]: He's right about the attention. [SPEAKER_02]: And that Joe has, he was kind of making that point, too, that, you know, Democrats need to get the attention. [SPEAKER_02]: I get it, I really do.

[SPEAKER_02]: But at base, people need to remember, elections are not a popularity contest. [SPEAKER_02]: This is not about who you can have a drink with. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not about who looks pretty in a dress. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not about who pantsuits are bad. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not about a laugh. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not about any of that. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not about whether a person is whatever their gender is. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not about any of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: You are hiring someone to do a job. [SPEAKER_02]: This is the job interview. [SPEAKER_02]: It's an exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's the toughest set of jobs. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just the one job. [SPEAKER_02]: Because remember, [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got a piece that is in the news on tap, but I think really hits it. [SPEAKER_02]: Journalist Garrett Graff, he has his own substack out there, on blog, and he wrote a piece.

[SPEAKER_02]: And basically, the title of it tells you it's worth reading. [SPEAKER_02]: It's there at the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: Says the only real check in balance that matters in our American system is character. [SPEAKER_02]: When you are hiring, if you are somebody who was hired, hell, you hire somebody to clean up your yard from your dog or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: character matters. [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want somebody that's going to half-ass the job.

[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want somebody that you can't trust to do the job. [SPEAKER_02]: You want somebody who you can believe when they tell you when it starts to know when I'll be here 15 minutes later or I'll make sure when I deliver your groceries that the bags aren't ripped. [SPEAKER_02]: You want somebody that you can trust and you want [SPEAKER_02]: and all the people that he brought around him that he had around him when he was campaigning.

[SPEAKER_02]: He told you what he was going to do. [SPEAKER_02]: He told you who's going to destroy America. [SPEAKER_02]: And he is. [SPEAKER_02]: So he's awful. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't trust him because he keeps changing his mind, but at least in the fact that he told you who's going to destroy America he is. [SPEAKER_02]: So anybody who tells you, [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't vote for this. [SPEAKER_06]: They voted for it.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, a lot of the people that voted for him just thought that he was going to mess with people that they don't like being a cafeteria Catholic. [SPEAKER_02]: I can pick and choose which ones I believe. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's it's no. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's that's that ain't how it works.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what regardless of your religion, you cannot pick and choose and sometimes I know a lot of folks are like, that's why I you know don't go to a church or a mosque or a synagogue and I get that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the things we can talk about with John Fiegel said. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm coming every coming up. [SPEAKER_02]: I do what I can. [SPEAKER_02]: He will be coming up next Mr. Bestseller, Mr. Great Friend of ours coming in.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a drink that kind of helps you out. [SPEAKER_02]: With music and sound, it kind of clicks. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't give me that look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: total understandable but look we are here as your friends regardless because that's what we do here at the politics bar we hang out with you in a bar and talk about stuff which you know look that that's a pretty good community I think I yeah you know I I enjoy hanging out with you wherever you guys are coming in from whether that happens to be maybe you're it I don't know am nine fifty Minneapolis say Paul that could be maybe you're listening on Georgia now radio down in the ATL maybe

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Jodie, it's Thursday night. [SPEAKER_02]: We got lots of news on tap, but we also have on tap tonight, the drink of the day, it's a mock tale for those of you who come, you know, I'm trying to do them once a week now. [SPEAKER_02]: you promised and you have come through because you're Jodie Hamilton and that's what you do. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm just, I'm, I, you know, look, you, you have always been extremely trustworthy and I love that.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of those things of, you know, especially because some of the folks in our business are not always that trustworthy and you are always trustworthy, just great. [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that certain certain people with life insurance, yada yada. [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying any, but look, today, the drink of the day, it's inspired by something that does that look like thing, which for those of you who maybe you got ADD and RADHD, I know some people really did.

[SPEAKER_02]: The people iPods, it drove them nuts because they would go, click, click, click, click, click, and they would just sit there and click the whole thing, drive the battery down, clicking while you're listening to that. [SPEAKER_06]: I know, I'm just, I'm lucky I found that picture of the original iPod. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is great. [SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely, I love the old iPod. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was really cool. [SPEAKER_06]: It was cool.

[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't have one because my dad actually bought a walkman. [SPEAKER_06]: It was a bazillion dollars in 1979. [SPEAKER_06]: It was like a thousand dollars. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're talking like first generation walkman? [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: No way. [SPEAKER_06]: And they weighed a ton. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I had I had all throughout junior high and high school.

[SPEAKER_02]: You would pretty much find me with some form of a portable cassette player in the bag on the hip, something like that. [SPEAKER_02]: I always had one because I was always, you know, listening to music and doing other things the same time, which I know I do that. [SPEAKER_02]: That's some people call me weird. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, when I read, I also listen to music. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: That's just me. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, but my dad was the perfect sharper image.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like, who's that new? [SPEAKER_06]: Let me buy that, kind of guy. [SPEAKER_02]: He was the target for that. [SPEAKER_06]: He was the target for anything that was brand new and cool. [SPEAKER_06]: And so yeah, we got us, yeah, we got to walk, man. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like in 79 or 80 he got to walk man. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because it was very expensive. [SPEAKER_02]: I also by the way in 90 is 98 or 99. [SPEAKER_02]: I got one of those diamond multi media.

[SPEAKER_02]: The diamond Rio was what they call them the little the little MP3 players. [SPEAKER_02]: That was that was pre iPod. [SPEAKER_02]: I freaking loved that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So. [SPEAKER_06]: What what is the drink of the day today obviously it it surrounds the iPod it surrounds the iPod basically It's inspired by the debut of the iPod in 2001 so it was not that long ago, and it's already gone only four years Not that long ago, and it's dead But this is called an apple pie alamode cocktail because apple And then to the effect exactly which [SPEAKER_06]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_06]: And again, you put it in that the podcast was that title was from the iPod. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: People do not realize that the word podcast is a portmanteau of iPod and broadcast. [SPEAKER_02]: So literally, like if you're listening to the show live, if you're listening on broadcast. [SPEAKER_02]: And if you listen to this show on a podcast on an Apple product, like your iPhone, you are, I mean, that's the, that's the combination.

[SPEAKER_06]: They did that basically because they got podcasts. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, podcast. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: It's amazing. [SPEAKER_06]: And the drink is very pretty. [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is a very pretty dream. [SPEAKER_02]: What is in an apple pie, alamode mock tale? [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, again, we're going to need fire, sorry, it's fire, fire, fire, fire. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, so we need a martini glass, a mixer, some ice. [SPEAKER_06]: I can do it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just stand mixer. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, uh, okay, cool. [SPEAKER_06]: Make sure, uh, and a kitchen torch because that's for the end of us. [SPEAKER_06]: So you need a cup of apple cider or apple juice, whichever you prefer, a quarter teaspoon of ground cinnamon, a quarter teaspoon of ground nutmeg, which I think makes it taste better. [SPEAKER_06]: I love nutmeg. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, me too. [SPEAKER_06]: Two tablespoons of aquafaba or egg whites.

[SPEAKER_06]: Now aquafaba, we have a link to it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's basically like a chickpea kind of sort of thing that can meringue up like egg whites. [SPEAKER_06]: So it depends on what you want. [SPEAKER_06]: Egg whites obviously might be easier for you to find. [SPEAKER_06]: Just to let you know. [SPEAKER_06]: One to two teaspoons of sugar that depends on your taste. [SPEAKER_06]: And an apple slice for garnish.

[SPEAKER_06]: So what you do is you can find the apple juice and spices in a mixer with ice and mix until well combined and then in a separate bowl with the aquafaba or egg wipes, egg whites, excuse me, in an electric mixer until the meringue forms. [SPEAKER_06]: So you got a little handheld mixer. [SPEAKER_02]: God. [SPEAKER_02]: You're supposed to like it. [SPEAKER_02]: Stand mixer and a handheld mixer. [SPEAKER_02]: That would probably be helpful.

[SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: And so you do that to get it all fluffy. [SPEAKER_02]: So you've got a bowl over here that has apple juice and spices mixed. [SPEAKER_02]: Then you've got a separate bowl and you've got the aquafobo or egg whites. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's now native. [SPEAKER_06]: Coffee like you're making a lemon meringue pie, that kind of puffiness. [SPEAKER_02]: Step three then.

[SPEAKER_06]: Step three, you pour all of the ingredients into a martini glass and you top with the meringue. [SPEAKER_06]: And then you sprinkle with as much sugar as you want. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: And then this is the fun part. [SPEAKER_06]: You use the kitchen torch and carefully brule the sugar until it caramelizes and we're done going twice We've done that now twice. [SPEAKER_06]: This is scary. [SPEAKER_06]: At least this is a sober drink.

[SPEAKER_06]: So it's safer If you make more than one you're going to be fine It caramelizes and forms a golden crust on top and then you garnish with the apple slice [SPEAKER_06]: And then enjoy our show in podcast form. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, whatever your favorite podcast is, it would be our show or, you know, maybe you do Stephanie Miller as well. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, enjoy ours first.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then you can listen to the podcast of all friends, Cliff Shector, you know, I'll, all the good people. [SPEAKER_06]: Friendly Johnson, Zach Daley beans, everything Alice and Gildas, which is like a thousand now. [SPEAKER_02]: And then in the study of media, of course, and you know, our new friend, well, you're old friend, my new friend, Martin Sheen, you know, who has his new show, the Martin Sheen podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: See, podcasts are fun and you get to hang out with your friends. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: If you guys missed any part of the drink of the day, you guys know what to do. [SPEAKER_02]: Just subscribe to politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Back to the tap. [SPEAKER_02]: Where the news comes out. [SPEAKER_02]: The shutdown is rolling on.

[SPEAKER_02]: Speaker Johnson still refuses to change tactics, even though as Joe was hinting, more Republicans are kind of coming back. [SPEAKER_02]: They're starting to realize that this stuff is, well, and how there's one of the big things that I think that people do not understand is some of this stuff is really starting to fail. [SPEAKER_02]: You've got food aid. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna stop. [SPEAKER_02]: Snap, Snap is gonna stop it normally.

[SPEAKER_02]: So if there's a government shutdown, which has got it stupid to say this because we shouldn't have government shutdown. [SPEAKER_06]: To say, with the government shutdown, those should not be worse to go together. [SPEAKER_02]: exactly, but in under past government shutdowns, they will leave the snap program, they will leave other food assistance open and they will say to states you can put money into the system, you can do whatever you can.

[SPEAKER_02]: This time, Trump, the Republicans are literally shutting the whole system down. [SPEAKER_06]: My governor has had we taken some money that we already had left over and he's going to try helping people. [SPEAKER_06]: And the national guard here is being used properly. [SPEAKER_02]: Gavin Newsom actually yes he's doing exactly, Jody is right and so is Gavin Newsom. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: It is one of those things that is amazing to me.

[SPEAKER_02]: But Newsom is moving to deploy the California National Guard to support the food bags due to the expected food shortages because of the lack of food aid because of the Republican [SPEAKER_02]: But at least, I mean, you know, you got a good governor there. [SPEAKER_02]: You got a good good governor in Illinois by the way, which I was I was chair to see some of this little bit further down in the news on tapering to the third round now with the ice wars and some good news.

[SPEAKER_02]: The Illinois Secretary of State is launching a hotline for the public to report any incidents of ice or CDP tampering to hide their license plates. [SPEAKER_02]: excuse me. [SPEAKER_02]: Not only that, federal judge has blocked Trump deploying the National Guard in Illinois and extended that indefinitely. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we still got the Supreme Court out there somewhere, but for right now, I think a lot of the courts are waiting to see what happens.

[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like the California ones are looking at that as well, although the federal appeals court in California did hear the case and they seem skeptical to allow these ice invasions to continue. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, he wants to invade San Francisco. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: San Francisco seems to be prepared. [SPEAKER_02]: As we mentioned, I believe at the top of the show, Speaker below's a former Speaker below's Pelosi Speaker of Maritone Pelosi.

[SPEAKER_02]: Has said that local law enforcement will not hesitate to arrest Ice and CBP. [SPEAKER_02]: She's talked to the current mayor, and he has made that clear directly to the president, I guess. [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, local law enforcement can arrest federal agents. [SPEAKER_02]: Ice and CBP, if they see them or hear them or have knowledge of them doing things that are illegal. [SPEAKER_06]: Why not, you break the law, you break the law, you break the law.

[SPEAKER_06]: Unless you're Donald Trump, because Chief Roberts said it doesn't matter what he does, which is why.

[SPEAKER_02]: John Roberts is he needs to be gone away to that's there's there's there's there's a lot of folks on the court that I would like to see them do other things maybe they can go back groceries, but they do not just go back down in other courts, I mean it's a life of that just not there anymore some of them like a leader I wouldn't I wouldn't trust Sam a leader to put up a flag. [SPEAKER_02]: just say. [SPEAKER_06]: Because of course. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, this is what we're going to talk with John about. [SPEAKER_02]: The new ice recruits, there is a story that we've got today in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: This one was, Jody Favis had. [SPEAKER_02]: It kind of goes along with a member of Trump always said in his first regime that he was all about having the best people Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you weren't drinking at that point, that would have been it.

[SPEAKER_06]: That would have been a bad tip to take everything would have been ruined and that'd be like, bye. [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fact is, so these new ice recruits, there's an NBC news story that is in the news on Tap that we've linked to. [SPEAKER_02]: Ice is shorting their training from 13 weeks to six. [SPEAKER_02]: For comparison, guys, if you're going in the military, Navy and Army boot camp is 10 weeks.

[SPEAKER_02]: I actually had 12 because we had to wait for two weeks, get enough people to put a company together. [SPEAKER_02]: So I was 12, yeah, but Marines is 13 weeks, Air Force, and Coast Guard is seven weeks. [SPEAKER_02]: Ice is current boot camp is six weeks. [SPEAKER_06]: That's ridiculous. [SPEAKER_06]: And nobody can. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, nearly half of the recruits they have coming in cannot pass an open book test. [SPEAKER_06]: That's like the easiest test on the planet.

[SPEAKER_06]: But nowadays I can take my DMV test online. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_02]: These people couldn't even pass that journey. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, look, we will talk more about this. [SPEAKER_02]: John Fughosang is coming in, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: He's the best seller of separation of church and hate. [SPEAKER_02]: We will have him in the bar and talk about all of this and more.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what to do, fresh enough you drank. [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, what you got to do if you need to go shop on the politics bar store, do whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back in just a couple of minutes with the one and only John Fughosang here. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a Thursday night. [SPEAKER_02]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_02]: best selling author five weeks non-categorically but we don't care who count it as five will count it as six hell will count it as true crime because I guess somebody else said separation of church and hate if you don't have a copy of the book you should if you do have a copy of the book uh... lend it to somebody else and get yourself another one or get them a copy okay just saying help john out you know john how you doing tonight but

[SPEAKER_10]: I'm doing great, man, just hoping my book gets so popular. [SPEAKER_10]: I can turn it into a, I can tear it down and build a ball room. [SPEAKER_10]: Nobody wants it. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my god, we've all been talking about this. [SPEAKER_02]: We had a ball room of the dam. [SPEAKER_02]: You're from our Joe Walsh was here earlier. [SPEAKER_02]: And he was, he's still so bummed about this. [SPEAKER_06]: He was just sad.

[SPEAKER_02]: Onto the anger part of it, he's still in the sadness part of it. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, who the hell is this jackass thinking he's tearing down on a freaking white house? [SPEAKER_06]: With no right to do it. [SPEAKER_10]: He owes it. [SPEAKER_10]: It's his. [SPEAKER_10]: It belongs to him at all belongs to him. [SPEAKER_10]: This is man, baby. [SPEAKER_10]: No, this is man, baby. [SPEAKER_10]: This is man, baby. [SPEAKER_10]: And thousands of us are losing our jobs.

[SPEAKER_10]: 20 million of us are going to lose health care and our savings. [SPEAKER_10]: And so construction crews are going to bulldoze the east wing. [SPEAKER_10]: So Donald Trump can host Gallas. [SPEAKER_10]: for the billionaires who caused all these economic problems. [SPEAKER_10]: This is like the great Gatsby, except instead of Gatsby spending his money to impress one woman, it's Gatsby spending our money to impress anybody, because he's so desperate to be liked.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the list of people, by the way, who are tossing him that money, we have that in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_10]: A list of the companies are tossing him money to maintain it for the rest of time. [SPEAKER_10]: This is going to be paid for by taxpayers. [SPEAKER_10]: It's already a damn ballroom in there. [SPEAKER_10]: And this guy's going to decorate it [SPEAKER_10]: It's going to look like an Iranian nail salon in the 70s. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it will.

[SPEAKER_02]: I still say, if any Democrat runs has part of their platform as we're going to knock that monstrosy down, turn the years from back to the way it was and return the, uh, the world's current was. [SPEAKER_02]: They should, they'll have, they don't, we got torches. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll go. [SPEAKER_10]: They will have higher priorities than that. [SPEAKER_10]: I don't want any Democrat to run on turning it back. [SPEAKER_10]: I don't really care about buildings.

[SPEAKER_10]: there's thousands who've already died from the USAID cuts. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, it's awful that they tore down their building, but I'd rather protect democracy and take it to do all of that. [SPEAKER_10]: I think you're going to see any Democrat. [SPEAKER_10]: This is done. [SPEAKER_10]: This is done. [SPEAKER_10]: You maybe they can repurpose the space, but you will not see any Democrats.

[SPEAKER_10]: campaigning on spending taxpayer what are they going to do be honest they're going to be honest and say I won't spend taxpayer I'm going to spend tax payer money took took took took to tear this ballroom down and put back the old Franklin Roosevelt building just like they're not going to do it it's stupid they won't do it this is it ripping it down we can do what we can build forward we can build back

[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody thought of an idea of turning it into a courtroom and then we have the Nuremberg-like trials of Donald Trump and his ilk in that room. [SPEAKER_10]: That's what I approve of. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, complete that. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm totally down for it. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: I love it. [SPEAKER_02]: Although, although of the build quality is as crap as Trump tower, it may fall down anyway.

[SPEAKER_02]: They might have to tear it down anyway, like Truman, you know, was a re-builder of the White House. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Again, like the journal reported the Treasury Department ordered employees not to take photos of the demolition of the White House during a government shutdown. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, they're trying to throw 20 million off Medicaid. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, right.

[SPEAKER_10]: the guy said he let Trump literally said it won't it your favorite the existing building it'll be near it not touching it which I think is exactly what he said about the constitution and he was lying about that as well I mean the wife you've seen the illis have you seen the plans what the White House is going to look like a little trailer with a giant double wife exactly yeah yeah just absolutely and the thing I think the reason that so many people are are focused on it is that it's so visceral is that we all feel we all know this house they belong to us

[SPEAKER_02]: and this jackass is doing that, it's just [SPEAKER_06]: Well, like we said earlier, Kimberly Johnson posted that somebody else posted, he did with Osama bin Laden couldn't. [SPEAKER_06]: He hit the White House. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: But again, he did what the Confederacy wouldn't got Confederate flags into our capital on January 6, again, you know, and again, we're murdering people in boats. [SPEAKER_10]: I know.

[SPEAKER_10]: Murdering people in foreign waters in boats. [SPEAKER_02]: You want to talk with them, sir? [SPEAKER_10]: Do with them survive this week. [SPEAKER_10]: And what do we do with these violent terrorist drug dealers [SPEAKER_10]: repatriated them home, which means one of only two things that is no option three. [SPEAKER_10]: We are murdering innocent people, or we are letting dangerous, narcoterrorist sex traffickers go free.

[SPEAKER_10]: One of those two things is true of this administration, and the media doesn't care anymore. [SPEAKER_10]: The media is owned by the same billion, the journalist don't care. [SPEAKER_10]: Journalist care, the media doesn't, and this is how it's going to be.

[SPEAKER_10]: And we have to just be more brutal [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I also think though that we do need to push the media more, and we do need to tell some of those people, I'm sorry, but if you would like to continue to be on CNN or whatever, you know, then you're going to get the hell crap to add to you. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to be able to go to a restaurant or grocery store. [SPEAKER_02]: Your life will be hell, or you can choose to do journalism while you're doing media.

[SPEAKER_10]: Your choice, I mean, you know, it's up to you, but you know, but the media is not to media doesn't want journalists doing journalism. [SPEAKER_10]: Media clicks.

[SPEAKER_10]: media one side balls media wants ready to want it if they want it if they haven't footage of did he beating that girl with that up again because that's that's it he hasn't done it yet as far as I know but there were rumors earlier this week that Trump was thinking about uh... pardoning did he because can he wasn't a state crime it was a state crime he's an idiot and again no democrats if the democrats can't

[SPEAKER_10]: can't capitalize off this, that they're trying to take help Medicaid away from 20 million rural hospitals are closing and people are like trying to figure out money, a food medicine rent pick too, and this guy's digging up the east wing to install a chandelier, the size of a small moon. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he promised to drain the swamp and now he's renting it out for weddings.

[SPEAKER_10]: If the Democrats can't get non-millionaires angry about this, you know, I mean, it's come on. [SPEAKER_02]: I think there are a lot more people who are because it is so real to people. [SPEAKER_02]: It is so in their face, they can't, I mean, when we were talking to Joe Walsh, we mentioned this earlier.

[SPEAKER_02]: that this is why they do like like with independence day, one of the big posters of that movie was the the alien laser blowing up the White House because people immediately go, they have that reaction regardless of where they're at on the political thing because we all we all have a solution. [SPEAKER_10]: I listen man, these these these these this guy had cops beat. [SPEAKER_10]: on the Capitol steps for a lie.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, the white people who didn't care about that aren't going to care about a damn building being torn down. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, I'm hearing that. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm here. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, wait. [SPEAKER_06]: Somebody went to high school with it goes, well, what about what Bill Clinton did to the White House? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, wait a minute. [SPEAKER_02]: Wait. [SPEAKER_02]: Guy, a guy that you do back in the day is comparing a BJ.

[SPEAKER_10]: Again, they're a cult, they're a cult of a moral, unmanly obedience. [SPEAKER_10]: They're not going to care about a national landmark being torn down. [SPEAKER_10]: They don't care anything about themselves. [SPEAKER_10]: And so they've been told that this is them winning. [SPEAKER_10]: And that matters more than anything else. [SPEAKER_10]: And anyone else's life. [SPEAKER_10]: And that's how it's going to be. [SPEAKER_06]: By the way, this guy has, he's of Hawaiian descent.

[SPEAKER_06]: So when ice comes to get him, I look forward to him complaining. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I'm just pardon this guy who stormed the Capitol and now that same guy's been arrested for threatening the killer team Jeff. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, after he pardon George Santos who ripped off Republican donors and stole from vets after he pardoned Steve Bannon who ripped off Republican donors. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, he only hires the best people and I guess that means the best domestic terrorist.

[SPEAKER_10]: The crime they're talking about is voting. [SPEAKER_10]: The actual felons are getting a handshake and a pardon. [SPEAKER_10]: And the maga base does not care. [SPEAKER_10]: They're going to call a nine year old kid a security threat. [SPEAKER_10]: But when a convicted insurrectionist threatens to murder the Democratic leader of the Congress, well, maybe he just felt unheard. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, maybe he just feels unheard. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I'm glad for this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Voting is less than two weeks away, though. [SPEAKER_02]: And there are some... New Yorkshire, I don't Tuesday, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, believe you, New York. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got early voting here, although, you know, Monday through Friday, I'm usually here. [SPEAKER_02]: But this Saturday early voting in Virginia, if you're there, I believe you can start voting early in New Jersey, California for those of you that are already voting. [SPEAKER_02]: Prop 50, you got it.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big one. [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of the national media is missing. [SPEAKER_02]: Maine, Maine has Prop 1. [SPEAKER_02]: Leonard Leo is trying to get absentee voting basically made harder for everybody in Maine and the polls right now say it's 50 50 there. [SPEAKER_02]: You need to vote no on one if you're a minor.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care about the the Democratic running for Senate whatever that's next year that there are elections now within two weeks and if you're a minor vote no on one. [SPEAKER_02]: Because honestly, this is Leonard Lee of the same guy who stacked the Supreme Court against you and me and everybody else and he doesn't want you to be able to vote from home. [SPEAKER_02]: So F him vote no on one if you're. [SPEAKER_06]: I've been voting from home for almost 25 years.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Leonard would like you to stop doing that. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, I don't live in Maine. [SPEAKER_06]: So, but if I did, no one wants to. [SPEAKER_10]: This is why they lost in 2020 because we were all at home watching the news in a pandemic lockdown all day.

[SPEAKER_10]: people were more typically engaged than ever because there was nothing else to do so everybody had time to right away for their mail ballot and that's why the Democrats won so solidly Joe Biden got more votes for president than anyone who's ever run for any office in this country's history because we had higher participation and that is why they're trying to end mail-in balloting because their entire stick is making it a little bit hard here a little bit hard there for Americans to exercise the right that's what it's always been but it's funny because it will affect Republicans that's what's funny

[SPEAKER_10]: But they'll win the lower of the turnout, the better chance for publics have for being elected. [SPEAKER_10]: And they don't care about hurting their own base because they can blame that on immigrants or trans children or Hunter Biden's laptop. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, BDN cult, they'll blame, they'll, you know, [SPEAKER_10]: They don't blame the billionaires for anything.

[SPEAKER_10]: They blame people, rich people, rich people, my mom, rich people pay Fox people to make working people, blame poor people. [SPEAKER_06]: It's not, we don't think to me.

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[SPEAKER_10]: try finding magas who are angry at the billionaires who outsource their jobs to China they're not coach to do that they're angry at the poor brown people who cross the country a great personal peril because a white person dangled a job and they're not angry at the white person for dangling the job either just a brown person doing what any of us would do to try to make a better life for a kid.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they are mad at some other white people should be willing to work for peanuts like the brown people are not not me mind you not not not me white person says But other white people should be willing to work for those peanuts and get treated like hell But again, Donald Donald Donald Donald Trump is the only president in history to have hired undocumented workers in two different centuries Because he didn't want to pay American workers a living wage and the fact that the average American doesn't know this

[SPEAKER_10]: is because the Democratic Party for three elections in a row is decided it wasn't a very interesting thing to talk about. [SPEAKER_02]: The economics thing is very definitely something. [SPEAKER_02]: I am still blown away when we were talking to Joe about the ranchers. [SPEAKER_02]: I said yesterday, I said, you know, Trump is basically punched the farmers in the face with his tariffs and with his whole thing with Argentina and the soybeans.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's basically kicked the ranchers in the groin. [SPEAKER_02]: And there are still there there's still like well, I don't agree with him on on this particular thing, but I agree with him on, you know, hating the brown people.

[SPEAKER_10]: To bail out Argentina when in reality he's probably doing that because Scott Bessent put a piece of paper in front of him and told him to sign it Yep probably bailing out the rich Thomas Rex the bailing out the rich douchebags who bought Argentina's debt They get rich off it and now they are from us and the average magnitude doesn't know that we've been saying the past few days Magamines make Argentina great again [SPEAKER_10]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, 40 billion of your money, he found time to bail out Argentina because nothing says America first, like bailing out fascists in South America. [SPEAKER_10]: Even the financial times says the pace so fell below where it was before the bailout, which is like paying for your Trump university twice and still not getting your fake diploma. [SPEAKER_10]: Now he wants to import beef from Argentina. [SPEAKER_10]: So yeah, he has abandoned American ranchers.

[SPEAKER_10]: This is what happens. [SPEAKER_10]: When corruption replaces competence, when narcissism replaces governance, he's running the whole thing like one of his casinos. [SPEAKER_10]: It's it's it's tacky. [SPEAKER_10]: It's rigged and he's looting it on the way out. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is absolutely insane. [SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that you have some of these farmers in rancher still who are like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I still agree with them on hate and brown people.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, of course they do. [SPEAKER_10]: They've been raised that way. [SPEAKER_10]: It's depressing. [SPEAKER_10]: That's the tribalism, but that's what America's always been. [SPEAKER_10]: That's always been the American struggle. [SPEAKER_10]: We versus me. [SPEAKER_10]: The American struggle has always been these Christians who pretend they're better than everyone else because they're Christian. [SPEAKER_10]: Versus the people who say, wait, what does that Bible actually say?

[SPEAKER_10]: That's always been the smug. [SPEAKER_10]: Self is sure at white people who don't care about the consequences of their vote against all the other people, including the anthropotic white people, who are the coalition to push back. [SPEAKER_10]: And it's really hard to say what it looks like now, because our corporate media is investing a lot of time and money and making us think this country is a lot more magnified than it is.

[SPEAKER_10]: You are very, very much watching this all unravels as the prices go up and it gets harder for promptor monkeys to defend this is normal. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, oh yeah, a great 100%. [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is not. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be interesting, but I don't necessarily know if it's interesting the right way. [SPEAKER_06]: It's interesting, not good. [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting, it's just, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Words in my head that I can't say.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a friend of mine, long time, one of my best friends. [SPEAKER_02]: He always used to have a phrase, and there's not so safe for a work version of this, but there's also a safe for one. [SPEAKER_02]: The safe for version is it's like tickle torture of the chainsaw, slightly amusing, but mostly painful. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's that that's pretty much I think the situation we're in John we got one more round here on this Thursday night Can you help us close out the evening?

[SPEAKER_02]: Shucks my parole officer says I have to that's what we love your parole officer Exactly right Well, but either that or I just ask you to wear the uniform. [SPEAKER_10]: It's part of fetish play But if you want to take more seriously, we can next week. [SPEAKER_06]: I might [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to need a church. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell Charlie Pierce. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Barrow the chart there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get the long sleeve ones as well as a short to a short And sweatshirts and hoodie [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: We got it there. [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, Jody. [SPEAKER_02]: She's fantastic about the merchandising because you know what it is. [SPEAKER_02]: It's all there. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not my fault. [SPEAKER_02]: No, it looks good. [SPEAKER_02]: It looks good. [SPEAKER_02]: It looks good right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you know, we're going to have to hash some stuff out with Kaffery Press, but we'll get that to figure it out. [SPEAKER_02]: John Fuegel's Angus here. [SPEAKER_02]: We never really have to hash anything out with him. [SPEAKER_02]: He just, he's open about all kinds of things, including the fact that he absolutely loved what you guys did at the No Kings rally this last week.

[SPEAKER_02]: And John, where did you wear a new year, were you in the city itself, or for no reason? [SPEAKER_10]: I was actually in Murdole Beach, South Carolina, over the way. [SPEAKER_06]: Did you go to one there? [SPEAKER_10]: I was, well, I wanted to. [SPEAKER_10]: I was giving the keynote address at the Freedom from Religion Foundation Convention. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there you go. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_10]: Mary Trump was there, and I was speaking, and I wanted to go to the local Murdole Beach, but I was working on my speech, you know, all these atheists do in the Lord's work. [SPEAKER_10]: I had to. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, when you're invited to come talk about your Jesus book to a room full of atheists, you really want to get the jokes, right?

[SPEAKER_10]: So I was actually writing all day and I didn't get to make it, but I was so deeply inspired by, I mean, watching America make history, the largest single one-day protest against a sitting president, no violence, few arrests, no chaos, and Trump could have ignored it. [SPEAKER_10]: He could have said he didn't even know about it and minimized it. [SPEAKER_10]: He could have waited until the media forgot the largest protest in history, which is usually about 48 hours.

[SPEAKER_10]: They'll forget it ever. [SPEAKER_10]: But he had to make it all about himself. [SPEAKER_10]: Of course. [SPEAKER_10]: He saw millions of people protesting that he thinks he's a king who poops on everything. [SPEAKER_10]: It is a petula little brat and he's like, you know how I can prove they're wrong about me? [SPEAKER_10]: I'm going to wear a crown and poop on them.

[SPEAKER_10]: It is the most honest video I've ever seen, finally found the courage to visualize what he's been doing. [SPEAKER_10]: Imagine if Joe Biden posted a video of himself wearing a crown in a fighter jet, Mark King Joe, dropping literal feces on a march for life rally. [SPEAKER_10]: Can you, can you, Laura Ingraham would shave her head? [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I mean, Sean Hannity would have an exorcism on himself. [SPEAKER_10]: But Trump does it and not one of the Sunday shows.

[SPEAKER_10]: brought it up. [SPEAKER_10]: Nobody asked Rand Paul or Katie Britt. [SPEAKER_10]: Of course Mike Johnson. [SPEAKER_10]: Are you okay with with Colligula? [SPEAKER_06]: I think Mike Johnson said it was satire. [SPEAKER_06]: Somebody said it was satire. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every tiny Johnson did did say it was satire.

[SPEAKER_10]: And again, look, I look, they're, you know, these victimized snowflakes when Hillary said, oh, some of his supporters are a basket of deplorable [SPEAKER_10]: I guess they were too busy defending the I love Hitler, young Republicans, but like which would have ended the career of any politician in parties that weren't filled with Nazi fascists.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean the party of family values is just applauding a man virtually crapping on their fellow citizens and this is how what a mean cult they are. [SPEAKER_06]: The Harry Sisson was in the front of that. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, but they think that's patriotism. [SPEAKER_10]: Again, these are the same family values patriots who smeared Republican feces on the capital walls. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes. [SPEAKER_10]: And by Republican feces, I mean the Confederate flag. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, all of it. [SPEAKER_10]: Even Kenny Loggins had to put out a statement about this guy. [SPEAKER_10]: Kenny Loggins, because Donald Trump illegally used danger zone for the pooped plane video. [SPEAKER_10]: Kenny Loggins had to come out of his compound deep under the earth and say too many people are trying to tear us apart. [SPEAKER_10]: We need to find ways to come to get you know you're a movement as lost a moral high ground.

[SPEAKER_10]: When Kenny Loggins has to come out and call for national unity again. [SPEAKER_06]: He might be suing. [SPEAKER_06]: He's this close to suing. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: What she should do. [SPEAKER_06]: I think he should. [SPEAKER_02]: We should. [SPEAKER_02]: We should all take whatever actions we can. [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't actually get to what I ended up having some issues. [SPEAKER_02]: I'd deal with the car this week.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned that here in the bar earlier this week, but I did get to this week and drive through.

[SPEAKER_02]: that that where some of the other rallies were honk and wave that was what I could do I know on your show on series XM you've been talking about uh... the no king stuff uh... look people everybody can do what they can do and they should do it and i think the big thing that we all know the media is avoiding right now the elections [SPEAKER_02]: There are elections in a lot of places. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe there are, um, I think I saw it at Bolts Mag.org.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that's to nail that he does a lot of great stuff about elections. [SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, I think there are 1250 elections nationwide within the next two weeks. [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you know, yes, there's the big races. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously Virginia New Jersey, you got the big governor's races. [SPEAKER_02]: That's no doubt. [SPEAKER_02]: The down ballot is important, too. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, lieutenant governor and attorney general.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, vote Democratic on all of them. [SPEAKER_02]: And I realize in Virginia, there is the, I think, oh, well, you know, the guy who's running for attorney general, he got mad a couple of years ago when he typed one thing, one thing, one thing. [SPEAKER_02]: We've all, especially because we live online. [SPEAKER_02]: We've all said things, we've all said things, probably sometimes on camera on microphone that we don't necessarily, but he's like that was one thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was not like these, these quote unquote, young Republicans, where they have thousands and thousands of violent racist misogynist messages. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like a grand platinum up in Maine, which we talked about that yesterday too. [SPEAKER_02]: Today it looks like comes out that we didn't get this in the news on tap, but it comes out that he's got old anti-LGBTQ messages.

[SPEAKER_06]: He had to apologize for all that before he ran and he's just stupid and he will not be the nominee. [SPEAKER_02]: None of these people, yeah, none of these people are like, um, if you want an example of a good Democrat last night, Zorn Man Danny was at the, uh, the last debate for the mayoral race in New York City. [SPEAKER_02]: And he was great. [SPEAKER_02]: He, uh, he got out there and said, you know, I'm going to be the mayor for everybody.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even people who don't agree with me on, you know, things that people feel passionately about, like the Israeli Gaza thing, I'm going to be the mayor for every single person. [SPEAKER_02]: I love what he did. [SPEAKER_02]: Did you catch John when he nailed Cuomo because there was a somebody that the Cuomo had grabbed And sexually assaulted that was one of the 13 that is accused him of that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes I don't know if you saw that or heard that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you did you have a moment to see that? [SPEAKER_10]: I did not see that part. [SPEAKER_10]: No, I was [SPEAKER_10]: You know, okay. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm really sad about Cuomo just going full racist. [SPEAKER_10]: He's on the Sid Rosenberg show earlier.

[SPEAKER_10]: Which is a, what do you do right wing fascist fixture and and you know, Sid was making jokes about how it's what's going to happen when when there's another 9 11 and Cuomo instead of saying, oh, Sid, you don't want to talk about that. [SPEAKER_10]: That's not cool Cuomo did not say that he laid right into it. [SPEAKER_10]: Roseburg said that a mom Donnie would shear another 9-11. [SPEAKER_10]: No, he would.

[SPEAKER_10]: And Cuomo, who I praised throughout the pandemic, said, ha, ha, ha, ha, and then said, that's another problem. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_02]: So we're talking about problems. [SPEAKER_10]: Maybe he might have 9-11 and stoking hatred against the first Muslim mayor in New York City. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, imagine if that kind of bigotry was used against the Jewish faith or the Christian faith, right? [SPEAKER_06]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, for Cuomo to like, [SPEAKER_10]: Embrace that just show it just shows how Cuomo has passed it because if Cuomo was on his game He would have said said we don't want to talk like that. [SPEAKER_10]: That's not fair to this guy This young man's many things and I don't think he's ready for the job But of course he wouldn't cheer on nine eleven. [SPEAKER_10]: He's a decent young guy. [SPEAKER_10]: My problem is his lack of extent That's all you have to do with him.

[SPEAKER_10]: I mean could have McCained it all you have to do you could have McCained it and looked like a good guy, but instead he couldn't do it now This is what he comes off being a lot more racist than I believe he really is [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and he's, man, Danny took it to him. [SPEAKER_02]: I got to play this for you, John. [SPEAKER_01]: Mr. Cuomo, in 2021, 13 different women who worked in your administration incredibly accused you of sexual harassment.

[SPEAKER_01]: Since then, you have spent more than $20 million in taxpayer funds to defend yourself, all while describing these allegations as entirely political. [SPEAKER_01]: You have even gone so far as to legally go after these women. [SPEAKER_01]: One of those women, Charlotte Bennett, is here in the audience this evening. [SPEAKER_01]: You sought to access her private, gynecological records. [SPEAKER_01]: She cannot speak up for herself because you lodged a defamation case against her.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, however, can speak. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you say to the 13 women that you sexually harassed? [SPEAKER_02]: He, he, he stammered. [SPEAKER_02]: He couldn't. [SPEAKER_06]: He said they were allegations. [SPEAKER_06]: That's when he went and my question to him is why does he need her gynecological records when it was a sexual harassment claim and not a sexual assault claim and either once why does he need her gynecological records?

[SPEAKER_02]: And even if you just say, maybe it was his lawyer being a tell us advocate. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, you're still the client. [SPEAKER_02]: You can tell your lawyer, hey, cut that crap out, man. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's that, and cool. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, Mo is so afraid he is turning to do something his father would never have done. [SPEAKER_06]: I know. [SPEAKER_10]: Love you.

[SPEAKER_10]: You know, in 1994, Mario Cuomo was running for reelection as a governor and they were trying so hard to get him to go back on his Catholic faith and say that he was support bringing back the death penalty to New York state. [SPEAKER_10]: He was harassed by it and stalked by it. [SPEAKER_10]: I remember watching him speak to a room full of cops and they were yelling, I for an eye Mario and Cuomo actually said, that's the Old Testament.

[SPEAKER_10]: We followed Jesus and they never got behind it and [SPEAKER_10]: George Pataki ran saying, I'll bring back the death penalty. [SPEAKER_10]: I'll kill lots of prisoners. [SPEAKER_10]: And that was the mood in the state at that time. [SPEAKER_10]: And Governor Cuomo would not relent on his values. [SPEAKER_10]: Did for him? [SPEAKER_10]: And he lost the job. [SPEAKER_10]: The tacky became president. [SPEAKER_10]: No one ever got executed. [SPEAKER_10]: It never happened.

[SPEAKER_10]: They did it to win power. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I could have just as easily lied to people and said, I'll get behind it now and not done it. [SPEAKER_10]: That was, I can't stop thinking about Cuomo Sr. [SPEAKER_10]: both of his sons. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, the choices that they choose to make. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, integrity matters, regardless of what you do. [SPEAKER_02]: We're integrity matters, we discussed this, you know? [SPEAKER_06]: Good job, just now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I think. [SPEAKER_10]: your book has plenty examples of that uh... but not for me don't worry folks none of that that that that really you have really good integrity john and you are what is very sad for me i first met governor polmo when i was [SPEAKER_10]: a teenager in turning it at NPR, like a long time ago, I actually introduced him to Mayor David Dinkens, WNYC Greenroom when I was like 20 years old, like, you know, I watched this guy's whole career.

[SPEAKER_10]: I remember when he was married to Kerry Kennedy Cuomo, you know, we thought he was going to maybe to be the first Italian American president in the Clinton administration and, you know, and I will always say he showed leadership when American needed a daddy during COVID,

[SPEAKER_10]: Right, those press conferences he gave gave a lot of people a lot of comfort and I will always prays and for it, but come on man It's like He has every right to try to rehabilitate his career, but the way he is showing he is incapable of reading the room Yes, shows that it's quite possible Zoroan mom Donnie may be more qualified Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, 100% I agree.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and look I [SPEAKER_02]: The biggest thing to me that qualifies people when it comes to politics right now, getting out and voting. [SPEAKER_02]: Regardless of whether we agree with you or not, regardless of whether we agree with any of you who are here in the bar or wherever, whatever corner you're coming from.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you got an election in your area, get your asses out there, Democrats, independent, especially if you're an anti-Trump Republican and you have integrity. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you should change your party, but look, whatever, go freaking vote, man. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no. [SPEAKER_02]: And vote for people who have integrity and vote for ideas that matter, you know? [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, if you if you don't found the founders did not fight for democracy, so President 36% could shut down the government and sick one state's national guard on another state's brown people while bailing out rich scumbags who stupidly brought Argentina's debt. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay? [SPEAKER_10]: The Democrats aren't going to say it, but they fought so we could tell everyone to be monarch whether he's got a crown or a crappy spray tan that you're not above the law.

[SPEAKER_10]: So I just want to see Democrats will say, here's the truth, Donald. [SPEAKER_10]: Nobody craps on my America. [SPEAKER_10]: You slobbering impotent tick. [SPEAKER_09]: Woo! [SPEAKER_09]: I love that one, Donald. [SPEAKER_09]: And that can hurt. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh yeah, Donald Kellyanne. [SPEAKER_09]: I do appreciate the video, though. [SPEAKER_10]: Because the video did show that he hates Americans. [SPEAKER_10]: He wants to crown.

[SPEAKER_10]: And he needs an oxygen mask to breathe. [SPEAKER_10]: So in that sense, he was right on. [SPEAKER_02]: John, we always love it. [SPEAKER_02]: We don't have enough time hanging out with you. [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, if the folks here in the bar want to shake their leg on over to your place at Series XM, they can have some more time with you this evening. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe you got Julie Frenchella in tonight. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, inside my voice, Smith. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, we do.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's going to be a party. [SPEAKER_02]: Julie's been here. [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be a great party over there. [SPEAKER_02]: John will see you next Thursday. [SPEAKER_10]: you guys are the best. [SPEAKER_10]: Thanks for having this show. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you are the best. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for coming in and know, sluminate with us. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't worry. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have great show tomorrow night Friday night. [SPEAKER_02]: Come on back here to the politics class.