Ick Factor November 14,2025

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[SPEAKER_09]: yeah that erpy feeling yeah we all have that it is um it's been a week a little bit down and there's been some some stuff that's you know made you want to hurl too and I don't necessarily mean just with the politics seriously Megan Kelly what the what the [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we'll talk about that, too.

[SPEAKER_09]: Look, by the way, thank you to all of you who are listening on all of our great radio affiliates for whatever corner of the universe you're coming in, whether you happen to be coming in on AM-950 Minneapolis Saint Paul or WCPT AM-820 Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_09]: you by the way if you are and maybe you're one of those galaxy-brain people you'll listen live and you'll listen to podcasts because it's helpful that way if you hear something that we say and you're like wait a minute whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa they said what so yeah which actually kind of helps I'm sure some people actually uh we're you know listening to the Megan Kelly show that's a podcast and they wait oh yeah anyway I can't believe what she said yeah well we'll play that so you guys can actually hear it it is um

[SPEAKER_09]: All I can say is Megan Kelly and Matt Gates. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a couple. [SPEAKER_12]: She's too old for him. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I would buzz you, but you're right, actually. [SPEAKER_12]: We should air 50s now. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I don't know if she's in her 50s or if she's just in her, oh my god, I don't know what the hell I was saying, phase or I. I mean, she's very pretty lady. [SPEAKER_09]: That's, and two bucks will not even get you a cup of coffee.

[SPEAKER_12]: Objectively, she's a pretty lady. [SPEAKER_09]: Ex-turnily? [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Objectively, she's a pretty lady. [SPEAKER_12]: Internally, not so much. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I just, wow, wow, wow. [SPEAKER_09]: It's sad. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we've got the stories in the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, obviously, obviously, if you're looking at [SPEAKER_09]: because hey, he's the one who is at the top or bottom, depending on how you look, it's [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, it's all disgusting. [SPEAKER_09]: So the F-steen files are back and Trump is with the vengeance they're back on. [SPEAKER_09]: Whoa, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Jeffrey is interesting to know and how much effect that Mr. F-steen is having from beyond the grave.

[SPEAKER_12]: I know more of any ever had when he was alive. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, which whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, that's... [SPEAKER_09]: It seems to be one of those things of... You remember how all of this supposedly started?

[SPEAKER_09]: back in 2016 with e-mails and a supposed child sex scandal wouldn't be funny if Donald Trump was taken down by e-mails and a sex scandal that would be I'm sure that secretary Clinton is going are you kidding me [SPEAKER_09]: I, uh, so we've got the stories in the news on tap, which you can subscribe to for free at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_09]: Trump is now directing his corrupt DOJ to investigate Epstein ties to Bill Clinton, Larry Summers and JP Morgan.

[SPEAKER_12]: Uh, don't the e-mails exonerate Bill Clinton? [SPEAKER_12]: Correct. [SPEAKER_12]: It seems like they do. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he said he never went to the they pretty much do they absolutely do not with Larry Summers No, Larry Summers isn't a little bit of weirdness on that Larry Summers and weirdness tend to go together

[SPEAKER_12]: But I mean, he's in some, I don't think he's in trouble because I think these were adult women that he was talking about still there's some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some, some

[SPEAKER_09]: I love where you're thinking, Jodie. [SPEAKER_09]: And maybe not, we will, we will see. [SPEAKER_09]: But you know, look, it's his corrupt E.O.J. [SPEAKER_09]: If they find something bad, they'll go, oh, I think you see here. [SPEAKER_12]: I think you see here. [SPEAKER_12]: That's what Pamboni keeps doing in the magas are mad. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah, because look, this is one of these, this is why Marjorie Taylor Green was here almost the whole time that the shutdown was going on.

[SPEAKER_09]: Because she sold herself on those things and especially after, [SPEAKER_09]: Steven Miller told her you need to go take care of your constituents. [SPEAKER_09]: She were okay. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to get real hard. [SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, that's I understand what the magas are meant. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, they were sold a bill of goods and the thing that was literally on the outside of the box get the Epstein files.

[SPEAKER_09]: Now they're like nothing to say here and they're like, no, no, no, no, no, you saw the box man. [SPEAKER_12]: That's especially fun. [SPEAKER_12]: Gino and Patel. [SPEAKER_09]: That was to a particular. [SPEAKER_09]: I have a feeling that there [SPEAKER_09]: probably tying to Steven Miller, even more than Pam Bonnie, but I'm sure that Bonnie is involved. [SPEAKER_09]: But my speculation is that there is dirt on those two.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hell, we know that that Patel has been taking the FBI's private land to go see his girlfriend. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's not cool. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I understand him having to play the guy in during the first Trump regime who got [SPEAKER_09]: I wouldn't be surprised if if somebody else inside that cabal like Stephen Miller has Compromot on Patel and on Bongino and basically says you'll leave when we let you leave or You're gone.

[SPEAKER_12]: Well don't Bongino and Patel also have [SPEAKER_12]: access to their own compromise at this point. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, I'm sure it's the FBI after all. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure it is as as the as the phrase goes, I'm sure it's a Mexican standoff, which a lot of people have said is the norm. [SPEAKER_09]: That was the norm in the the first drop regime.

[SPEAKER_09]: Where everybody inside has a metaphorical gun held everybody else's head and everybody's aiming and everybody else and and and and [SPEAKER_09]: they're all they've all got knives out for each other. [SPEAKER_09]: They all, you know, they all hate each other's guts. [SPEAKER_09]: We've been seeing that with this right wing. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what you want to call it. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not really a civil war because they're not civil and they're, you know, not real.

[SPEAKER_09]: But they just, they are, they don't like each other. [SPEAKER_09]: No, and they don't want each other to succeed. [SPEAKER_09]: So we'll, we'll have to [SPEAKER_09]: The e-mails, we've got some more stuff in the news on tap about that. [SPEAKER_09]: Former Model Stacey Williams, by the way, says Jeffrey Epstein delivered Trump or delivered her to Trump, there's a whole story there for media.

[SPEAKER_09]: We got the interesting thing is Mike Tomoski, over at New Republic, we've talked about before, has a good piece that we put in there as well. [SPEAKER_09]: It says the one move that really tells us how crazy panic to Trump is about the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_09]: is that Trump locked Bobbert in the situation room to try to get her to get off of that. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And they, they, we didn't even put this one. [SPEAKER_09]: We had it.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think you had it or I had it. [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe we both had it. [SPEAKER_09]: But they also threatened Nancy Mason. [SPEAKER_09]: Be like, oh, yeah, you can't go to your, look, we know that they threatened Marjorie Taylor Green and like, you can't run for, for [SPEAKER_09]: This is this is the way that they do things inside. [SPEAKER_09]: They all have guns at each other because they all have dirt on each other. [SPEAKER_12]: But I mean, Booper in the sit room of all places.

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, you know, would you bring her to the oval? [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, rather bring her to a theater at. [SPEAKER_12]: sorry sorry Sean Louise you'll get more out of her I'm but show me all I know is I tell you her to the sit room is like [SPEAKER_12]: what are you doing? [SPEAKER_09]: This isn't important room. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: And the fact that, you know, as we mentioned yesterday and maybe the day before that she's a conspiracy nut, and when you when you take a conspiracy nut and then you try to convince them that the conspiracy isn't real, they almost surely, it's a psychological thing that they doubled down. [SPEAKER_09]: They're like, oh, wait a minute, you're trying to, now I really am paying it. [SPEAKER_12]: It's just the discharge position has been signed.

[SPEAKER_12]: It will be voted on next week.

[SPEAKER_09]: yes actually uh... that is down a little bit i believe uh... i think we've got that that news on tap uh... well long and short it's going to happen that is definitely going to happen he came jafferies uh... he was talking to day with uh... who was it cnn i believe this morning and uh... he's like yet that this thing is going on [SPEAKER_00]: decision that the legislation will pass, potentially pass decisively, Democrats in the House of course will strongly support it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We believe in transparency. [SPEAKER_00]: We believe it's been far too long that this information has been hidden from the American people. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's extraordinary that rather than focus on trying to actually extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits, drive down the high cost of living, [SPEAKER_00]: make life better for the American people. [SPEAKER_00]: Donald Trump and his folks have spent this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: Pressuring Republicans not to back the effort to release these Jeffrey Efting files to the American people. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I keep Jeffrey's right. [SPEAKER_12]: He's absolutely right. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, you don't take somebody of the situation room. [SPEAKER_12]: You know. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, right, you look like I'm going to take over here and and that that whole thing, but long and short.

[SPEAKER_09]: So I mean, obviously, a lot of this ties to Jeffrey Epstein, huh, which of course ties to what we were saying before two.

[SPEAKER_09]: there's that there we we've got the whole video for you if you want to see in the news on tap Tim Miller over the bull work did a whole big piece on it and we've got the Megan Kelly video in there So Megan Kelly if you thought she was gone maybe you know you're like a lot of us here in the bar You know pay more attention to left-leaning media you listen to shows like Stephanie Miller and the Bob seska show and [SPEAKER_09]: you know what all I am.

[SPEAKER_12]: John Fiegelsang and Zach Lee, friends, hello. [SPEAKER_12]: Joe Joe from jurors, everybody, you know. [SPEAKER_09]: Cole Sam run a call. [SPEAKER_09]: You're right, and you're like, um, who, by the way, my heart goes after Nicole's. [SPEAKER_09]: I know. [SPEAKER_09]: I know. [SPEAKER_09]: Pop this week. [SPEAKER_09]: So we're in a little baba. [SPEAKER_09]: Jackson was a good boy. [SPEAKER_12]: He was a good boy. [SPEAKER_12]: Sweet face. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, sweet pup.

[SPEAKER_09]: So, any who. [SPEAKER_09]: But I get it. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, maybe maybe you're left in. [SPEAKER_09]: You didn't realize it making Kelly hadn't, you know, completely gone the way of the dinosaur.

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[SPEAKER_09]: But I agree, you got to hear this. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as for Epstein, I've said this before, which is a reminder. [SPEAKER_04]: I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a position to know virtually everything, not everything, but virtually everything. [SPEAKER_04]: And this person has told me from the start years and years ago. [SPEAKER_04]: that Jeffrey Epstein in this person's view was not a pedophile.

[SPEAKER_04]: This is this person's view, who was there for a lot of this, but that he was into the barely legal type. [SPEAKER_04]: Like, he liked 15-year-old girls, and I realized this is disgusting. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into eight-year-olds, but he liked the very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were,

[SPEAKER_04]: legal to a passerby and that is what I believe and that was what I reliably was told for many years and it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had tens of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used to call it kitty porn, now they call it chalice, will abuse material, on his computer that for the first time I thought, oh no, he was an actual [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, she's trying, it's weird. [SPEAKER_09]: I, yeah, she.

[SPEAKER_12]: Because, okay, so as I said earlier, having been a 15 year old girl at a point in my life, I would have loved a 26 year old guy to hit on mayor, maybe a 30 year old, but so wrong. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, yeah, and that's different than also so wrong with she says somebody told me somebody told me somebody told me She says but I agree [SPEAKER_12]: And the difference is between, say, a 15-year-old girl that wants to do that is one thing, a 15-year-old girl that's being passed around.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Or a 17-year-old girl who is semi-homeless. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, yes, Matt Gait. [SPEAKER_09]: We got Matt Gait's, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: He's coming back in news, too. [SPEAKER_09]: We got all that news. [SPEAKER_09]: We have Karen and Anita and a great drink of the day for you. [SPEAKER_09]: Hang on, fresh from your drink. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't, we'll have some more fun. [SPEAKER_09]: Hang on, come right back.

[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Friday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: You should be privity of some of the conversations we have that we are doing up the glass. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm telling you all, it's a look. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you by the way, all of you who are part of our conversation. [SPEAKER_09]: You guys have been interacting with us very well this week.

[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you to everybody who gets out to us whether you're getting out to us on threads or blue sky or Instagram, maybe Facebook or Substack or Twitter.

[SPEAKER_09]: you know where we're at we're at the politics bargain all those places and of course thank you everybody who leaves messengers on the voicemail 213 6777 7777 7777 7278 or 213 6777 salt like in your margarita on i had one yesterday oh margarita's a good i i it's that's that's not what we're having in the drink of the day no drink of the day it will make you pucker just a little bit [SPEAKER_09]: But it doesn't have pocket in it.

[SPEAKER_09]: It might be a little pickled after you drink it. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, if you drink too much anything, you get pickled. [SPEAKER_12]: So that's true. [SPEAKER_09]: This is true. [SPEAKER_09]: All right, um, God, uh, Megan Kelly's in a pickle. [SPEAKER_12]: I know kidding. [SPEAKER_12]: It's like she, okay, as I was saying earlier, uh, as a 15 year old teenager, were I to want to be with somebody of a certain age, still illegal?

[SPEAKER_09]: Well, if there is such a thing, there is such a thing as an age of consent, also also, you know, what, as a former cis head teenage boy, the age of consent, also known as the age from what you do not necessarily have to run from their parents. [SPEAKER_09]: So that's, and that, and that was, that was what we used to say when we were teenage boys ourselves, when we were 14, 15, 16 and we were like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

[SPEAKER_09]: because you know that's just stupid and teenage boys or it is. [SPEAKER_12]: But there's a difference between a 15 year old or 14 or 17 year old girl wanting to wanting to be with someone versus what Epstein did to these old girls. [SPEAKER_09]: And there is the age of consent. [SPEAKER_09]: We were joking about because nice to do, you know, I used to be a rock and roll DJ, which is fine. [SPEAKER_09]: And [SPEAKER_09]: There's plenty of, there's so much of that with bands.

[SPEAKER_09]: Poor members of the fans, and you were telling me that there's this thing, this, this, this, laminate, if you guys don't know, it's laminate. [SPEAKER_09]: The little thing that, uh, lanyard goes around your neck and then laminate is the little thing that hangs off of it that is basically your press pass at a, a rock concert. [SPEAKER_09]: Go backstage, you know, and this is, you know, okay. [SPEAKER_12]: Or your band, it's just band member pass, it's what I write.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right, right. [SPEAKER_09]: Anybody who has backstage access gets the little laminate thing. [SPEAKER_09]: These days they haven't, they stick them on and on. [SPEAKER_12]: No, they have stickers, but I mean, if it's a big band they just give you laminates anymore. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: But okay, so my sister carries ex-husband's band back in the day. [SPEAKER_12]: They were touring and the name of the band. [SPEAKER_08]: Ten inch men. [SPEAKER_12]: Just saying.

[SPEAKER_12]: And they had a joke on the back of their laminates that had the age of consent for every state. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think that was a joke, Jodie. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, for for those guys it for the band it was because they were all married and happily married had children and all that stuff members of the crew who were in back. [SPEAKER_09]: It was it was a guideline. [SPEAKER_12]: It was a band, but it means Carrie told me about it.

[SPEAKER_12]: She's like, no, they's an Alabama apparently at the time in the 90s, nine years old was the age of consent. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think it's that now. [SPEAKER_12]: Thank God, it's not that now. [SPEAKER_12]: But I mean, you know, well, they do such children to get married in southern states. [SPEAKER_08]: There were, well, yeah, there's there's that too. [SPEAKER_12]: Arkansas and other places, you know, but yeah, nine years old is the lowest age. [SPEAKER_12]: I saw the laminate.

[SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, that's disgusting. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: But the biggest thing about the Megan Kelly thing. [SPEAKER_09]: It's disgusting that she would give credence what there's a trick. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember, never when Megan Kelly used to have a talk show in NBC. [SPEAKER_12]: I for a minute before she got fired, yes. [SPEAKER_09]: It was like, like, seven, eight years ago something like that. [SPEAKER_09]: It's like that.

[SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: The Republican Accountability Group. [SPEAKER_09]: They do some things for every once in a while, some fun video stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: And they put this out earlier, comparing Megan then to Megan now. [SPEAKER_09]: You got to hear this. [SPEAKER_04]: You feel as a victim. [SPEAKER_04]: You feel a victim. [SPEAKER_04]: The soul takes. [SPEAKER_04]: So people who are going to be out there because you know some are going to judge.

[SPEAKER_04]: And sorry, you were 15, you were 16, you were 17. [SPEAKER_04]: You were a willing participant. [SPEAKER_04]: Again, the legal age of consent and California is 18. [SPEAKER_04]: So there's no consenting for a 14 or even a 17 year old in these circumstances. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, that's old Megan. [SPEAKER_04]: Here's current Megan. [SPEAKER_04]: That's for Epstein. [SPEAKER_04]: I've said this before, which is a reminder.

[SPEAKER_04]: I do know somebody very, very close to this case who was in a position to know virtually everything, not everything, but virtually everything. [SPEAKER_04]: And this person has told me from the start years and years ago that Jeffrey Epstein and this person's view was not a pedophile. [SPEAKER_04]: This is this person's view. [SPEAKER_04]: Who was there for a lot of this? [SPEAKER_04]: It was that person's view. [SPEAKER_04]: He was into the barely legal type.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I realized this is disgusting, I'm definitely not trying to make an excuse for this. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just giving you facts that he wasn't into like eight year olds. [SPEAKER_04]: But how do you feel? [SPEAKER_04]: The very young teen types that could pass for even younger than they were. [SPEAKER_04]: But would look legal to a passerby. [SPEAKER_04]: And that is what I believe, and that was what I reliably was told for many years.

[SPEAKER_12]: That is what I believe that they were just into 15 to 16 year olds and that that was okay. [SPEAKER_09]: She was perfectly fine when she was saying it was somebody else that said this. [SPEAKER_09]: Discussed it may be she could say hey was somebody else who said this and who told me and that's fine. [SPEAKER_09]: But the moment she said well that's what I believe.

[SPEAKER_12]: And again, the difference between, say, a 15 year old that's into somebody that's way too old for her or him by the same token, right? [SPEAKER_12]: Uh, no, that's that same good point is is Epstein wasn't it wasn't consensual. [SPEAKER_12]: First off, even if they were adults, it wasn't consensual. [SPEAKER_09]: But intentional. [SPEAKER_09]: That's the problem. [SPEAKER_09]: There's even more than that. [SPEAKER_09]: Then there's then there's the let's leverage.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And Epstein did this a lot where the young women, the young girls, that they would get from Donnie's club. [SPEAKER_09]: However, Epstein said that said told you to hold [SPEAKER_09]: But Jolane got the girls from our logo brought them over and they always wanted something. [SPEAKER_09]: And it was usually something that somebody who was very wealthy and had a lot of connections and power, like Jeffrey could provide.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, they all needed something, and it was just like, what do I do to get my braces Matt gates? [SPEAKER_09]: Um, well, yeah, here, that's, that's just it, too. [SPEAKER_09]: There was a reporter of her, I believe, the New York Times, and, well, well, we'll just have a refresher memory about the Epstein's, or the, the young girl scandal with Matt gates, because it mirrors the Epstein's scandal. [SPEAKER_07]: It totally does.

[SPEAKER_07]: what emerged was a story about basically how the 17-year-old girl was working at McDonald's, one of her parents was living in an out of a homeless shelter. [SPEAKER_07]: She was looking for extra money, she wanted money to buy braces, to pay for braces, and [SPEAKER_07]: And she essentially turned to a companionship website where she was able to make money through encounters with men.

[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what put her on the path to her encounter with Gates and to become a admission in a massive political scandal. [SPEAKER_12]: that poor girl. [SPEAKER_12]: Wow. [SPEAKER_12]: She had braces. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, braces. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: She needed braces for her teeth. [SPEAKER_09]: Bracetch also as John Figuelsang was noting last night about the fact that we don't have universal dental insurance in this country. [SPEAKER_09]: No, we don't.

[SPEAKER_12]: No, a friend of mine is a dentist. [SPEAKER_12]: And he would really, really like to have insurance for my cousin in law is a dentist. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Any [SPEAKER_12]: But I mean, this, again, young girls might be interested in older gentlemen. [SPEAKER_12]: Some are, yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: But that's not cool for the older gentlemen or the older ladies who are interested in young men. [SPEAKER_12]: It's not cool kids.

[SPEAKER_12]: It's rape. [SPEAKER_09]: It's rape. [SPEAKER_09]: Correct. [SPEAKER_09]: Jodie is 100% correct, not except. [SPEAKER_12]: As much as the younger kid might not agree with it, it's rape. [SPEAKER_12]: And in this instance, in particular, [SPEAKER_12]: They're utilizing the fact that these girls needed something. [SPEAKER_12]: Anything. [SPEAKER_09]: Something of value, like medical help. [SPEAKER_12]: Medical help, whatever it is. [SPEAKER_12]: And a Virginia Jew free.

[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, she needed money. [SPEAKER_12]: She didn't work. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and a lot of the, a lot of the young girls that Epstein and, um, and let's be honest, let's not leave at all the people who helped him. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, needed was they needed work, they needed job assistance, they needed training, maybe they'll start all stuff that people with money and power can provide. [SPEAKER_12]: Right.

[SPEAKER_12]: And then a lot of people with money and power like Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump, allegedly Donald Trump, um, I'm Chris Liveoy in my head right now. [SPEAKER_12]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh [SPEAKER_12]: They have that to offer boy in your head right now. [SPEAKER_09]: I am.

[SPEAKER_09]: Isn't that weird? [SPEAKER_12]: Um. [SPEAKER_09]: I just had to do the Chris is wrong. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, if you want a Jody is right, sure, we have those too. [SPEAKER_12]: But seriously, I mean, they have the power and they hold it. [SPEAKER_12]: Harvey Weinstein. [SPEAKER_12]: Hello. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_12]: You know, and I want a job. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, you're going to have to do this in order to get the gig.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is, it's a very typical to a little sexual assault. [SPEAKER_09]: That's why sexual assault is not sex per se. [SPEAKER_09]: It's power. [SPEAKER_12]: It's always assault. [SPEAKER_12]: It's assault for a reason. [SPEAKER_09]: It's assault using sex. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not kind of like I used to say when I was at Husker sports. [SPEAKER_09]: And I would say it's college athletics.

[SPEAKER_09]: And a lot of people in college sports would say it's college. [SPEAKER_09]: Athletics. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: And some people would be the opposite, and they say, it's college athletics. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_09]: They're, they're, you put the right and fastest on the rights allowable. [SPEAKER_09]: You get the right thing. [SPEAKER_09]: In this case, it is a salt using sex is probably the best way to term it.

[SPEAKER_09]: But it is a salt. [SPEAKER_09]: And they use sex as part of that weapon. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, they, they basically say to you, like, well, story Daniel, specifically had sex with Donald. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: Because she thought he was going to help her. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, she thought he was going to help her with her career. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's right. [SPEAKER_09]: With her film, yep. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry, but him saying, yeah, I'll do it for you.

[SPEAKER_12]: If you do this for me is it's not an negotiation. [SPEAKER_09]: That's rape as much as she will not agree with what I just said that there there there are You know professionals who you know who do that there are agreements you can make you can trade Whatever if it is legal where you are at whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not I don't judge on that kind of thing but If somebody says if you say I would like some of your money and and effort

[SPEAKER_12]: to do this thing, this media thing that I want to do, and the person's not healthy, but only if you, you know, yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, no, that's, that's not over, that's different, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over, that's not over,

[SPEAKER_09]: That's what I mean. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: And she's like, why don't you go as well. [SPEAKER_12]: I need to see what you look like, at least from the waist up naked. [SPEAKER_12]: And so she did it thinking that's what happens. [SPEAKER_09]: And when she told me that I'm like, no, no, no, there are no that that story is so common and it's they caught a body check. [SPEAKER_09]: That's messed up. [SPEAKER_09]: That's messed up.

[SPEAKER_09]: Newsflash folks that that is no said there is no such thing. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, unless unless you were working in adult entertainment, that's different. [SPEAKER_12]: And she wasn't auditioning for that. [SPEAKER_12]: She was auditioning for other things. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're auditioned for adult, I get it. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, that's different. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely, that absolutely makes sense. [SPEAKER_09]: That's like the NFL trials.

[SPEAKER_09]: you know, yes, they want to see how fast you can run a 40. [SPEAKER_09]: I get that because any NFL you need to know that in adult entertainment, they actually do need to do a body check. [SPEAKER_09]: And if you are not auditioning for adult entertainment, they do not need to know. [SPEAKER_12]: No, they never need to see that at birth. [SPEAKER_12]: Boys and girls.

[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I had, I have male friends in mind that had to literally in front of a certain person who I will not name. [SPEAKER_12]: He's dead now. [SPEAKER_12]: boys, like young men, like 18, 19 year old men in front of a man, mind you, it's all casting couch. [SPEAKER_12]: It is. [SPEAKER_12]: It was weird and creepy and, itch, yeah, itch is a good word for it. [SPEAKER_12]: It's it's just it's just gross and luckily none of my friends were raped.

[SPEAKER_12]: Thank God. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm But the fact that Megan Kelly was whirling to to excuse it like Matt Gates. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, who she knows she knows Matt Gates personally and professionally.

[SPEAKER_09]: I [SPEAKER_09]: from everything that I know of from everything that I know she I don't think she's like friends with him but she knows that she's she has yeah I mean you know it is he is his number in her roll of decks probably address book probably probably and has she contacted him for things not necessarily professional maybe she's just asking for an opinion about somebody else still that's personal I would not be surprised if that has been the case so

[SPEAKER_12]: allegedly as Chris Liveway would say. [SPEAKER_09]: Allegedly. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: So if if if if if if if I was surprised, I'm fine with being surprised. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm fine with being wrong. [SPEAKER_09]: But I just think that that her okaying that is it's not okay to me. [SPEAKER_12]: And that's why she's getting a lot of backlash for it. [SPEAKER_09]: And she should she should be exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: I love it when we come to the exact same point.

[SPEAKER_09]: He's like, yes, because I mean, really, what the hell? [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know what she was thinking. [SPEAKER_12]: It's like, she can report that this person said that, but to agree with it is she's something completely different. [SPEAKER_09]: Mind said this or that somebody that I know that somebody I know said this. [SPEAKER_09]: That's different. [SPEAKER_09]: Right after she says that, she says, well, that's what I think. [SPEAKER_09]: Really?

[SPEAKER_09]: These girls were raped and trafficked and that there are people who have power and position both in media and outside media who think that it's okay. [SPEAKER_09]: That right there is a big part of the reason why we're all here. [SPEAKER_09]: Look at that Major Pucker if that's where it made you go. [SPEAKER_09]: Wow! [SPEAKER_09]: We have the perfect drink for you! [SPEAKER_09]: Let me tell you, we will get to the drink of the day coming up next.

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[SPEAKER_09]: You do share, I mean, you know, it's like me and Sarah, you know, you share things with one, too. [SPEAKER_09]: It's all good. [SPEAKER_09]: No, you guys share back and forth. [SPEAKER_09]: You're like, you know, hey, I'll buy you dinner, whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So, so if you guys like the music, again, you know, just buy a gift podcast for somebody else. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: It is the holidays coming up and [SPEAKER_09]: super helpful.

[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Be the helper. [SPEAKER_09]: Be helper. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't don't be a sour push face, which you might be after today's drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: I was surprised when I saw that you had picked this particular drink of the day, because I know what it is and it's easy. [SPEAKER_09]: It is, but there are people who this is, um, [SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of like talking about Megan Kelly and underage girls.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's absolutely easy and some people think it's disgusting. [SPEAKER_09]: Which look, you know, if you're not a fan of pickles, I understand that because I love pickles. [SPEAKER_09]: I love pickles, but I know some people who are just not. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, Lonnie doesn't like them in general. [SPEAKER_12]: No, he likes relish, but not pickles. [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, that's fine. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, some people like tomato sauce and not tomato sauce.

[SPEAKER_09]: Tomato sauce, right. [SPEAKER_09]: What if it's not my, not my business to, you know, Yuck, you're young. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not going to yuck anybody's young. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly, but I like pickles. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody likes pickles. [SPEAKER_09]: So, pickles it is. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody, what is the trick of the day? [SPEAKER_12]: It's called a pickle-back cocktail inspired by National Pickle Day.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, National Pickle Day, which it is an actual holiday. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a real holiday. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it is much as any holiday is a real holiday. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the Pickle Packers Association now known as Pickle Packers International. [SPEAKER_09]: right. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, it's a trade union. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a trade union. [SPEAKER_09]: It is a promotional union. [SPEAKER_09]: That's whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_09]: Lobbing organization, whatever you want to call it. [SPEAKER_09]: They started this in 1949 to get people to buy more pickles. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: You do. [SPEAKER_09]: Although people have been buying pickles, eating pickles, trading pickles, one pickling, other things. [SPEAKER_12]: You can pickle on a steady thing. [SPEAKER_09]: You can you can pickle a pair of ginger. [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: It's really good.

[SPEAKER_09]: Pickled ginger to pickle Mary. [SPEAKER_09]: Really good. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_12]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_12]: I love pickle ginger. [SPEAKER_12]: It's yummy. [SPEAKER_12]: I love pickle. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I'm a pickle Mary and his badge. [SPEAKER_09]: She gets behind the wheel. [SPEAKER_09]: Ah. [SPEAKER_09]: Sorry bad joke for those of you who remember that Don Wilson today, just saying. [SPEAKER_09]: I like Stonewells. [SPEAKER_09]: It was good.

[SPEAKER_09]: I just was like why were you drinking and driving? [SPEAKER_09]: Wow. [SPEAKER_09]: She's also down her. [SPEAKER_09]: She's a big stoner. [SPEAKER_09]: There's that. [SPEAKER_09]: But look, the rest herself. [SPEAKER_12]: She was a lovely lady. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: And don't get yourself in a pickle. [SPEAKER_09]: Just enjoy celebrating. [SPEAKER_09]: national pickle day. [SPEAKER_09]: So we've got some history there. [SPEAKER_09]: It's kind of fun.

[SPEAKER_09]: There are all kinds of pickles and we do talk about how, you know, you can, you know, get things, get yourself in trouble and get in a pickle. [SPEAKER_09]: A couple of guys actually literally got in trouble with pickles. [SPEAKER_12]: It has story. [SPEAKER_09]: There's a story. [SPEAKER_09]: You should go check it out. [SPEAKER_09]: It is part of the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: But of course, there's the part of the drink of the day that only the subscribers get.

[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, that we give to you every day. [SPEAKER_09]: We are here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: It's almost too easy. [SPEAKER_09]: But what do you do? [SPEAKER_08]: How do you do this pickle back then? [SPEAKER_12]: All right. [SPEAKER_12]: You need two shot glasses. [SPEAKER_12]: All right. [SPEAKER_12]: One and a half ounces of bourbon, or rye whiskey, or tequila, or any spirit you think that might mix well with pickle juice.

[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, all right. [SPEAKER_09]: Another. [SPEAKER_09]: Some people recommend bourbon or rye specifically. [SPEAKER_09]: I think that tastes better with pickle juice. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, but if you're also having like, if you're also having nachos, which that was last week, if you're having nachos and pickles, which some people don't mind pickles on their nachos, don't get disgusted. [SPEAKER_09]: Hey, hey, you over there. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not like pineapple on pizza.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's what I'm talking about. [SPEAKER_09]: You like pineapple on pizzas. [SPEAKER_09]: Some people like pickles on pizza, whatever you do your thing anyway. [SPEAKER_09]: So. [SPEAKER_09]: And then you need two shot glasses. [SPEAKER_09]: You get an ounce and a half of bourbon or rire to kill or whatever. [SPEAKER_12]: Whatever you think that will work with [SPEAKER_09]: chilled. [SPEAKER_12]: It's got to be chilled. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't use warm pickled juice.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is disgusting. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that's great. [SPEAKER_12]: Pour your spirit of choice into one shot glass, pour the pickled juice into the other shot glass, toss back the shot a liquor, and then with the pickled juice, it's simple. [SPEAKER_09]: It's immediately. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not like you waited for one, two. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: Otherwise, it's not the same. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: And you can do this several times, just do not don't drive yourself. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, and right, [SPEAKER_09]: right exactly look if you missed any part of the drink of the day you guys know what to do and if you're playing pickle ball I don't recommend this drink if you don't do do not do not do pickle back after pickle ball that's just [SPEAKER_09]: It is a Friday night.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hopefully you guys have not gotten too off the curve off the chain from this week that the news really has kind of yanked everybody around. [SPEAKER_09]: By the way, if you are out west in California areas of the bar like Jodi is be careful this weekend, lots of rain up and down the California coast. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe a little bit further north as well. [SPEAKER_09]: So no, it hit the north first. [SPEAKER_12]: It's right now. [SPEAKER_09]: It didn't hit the north first.

[SPEAKER_12]: I can't [SPEAKER_12]: It's not raining here at the moment, but it's coming in and it's going to be, especially in the burn areas in Altadina and Palisades and Malibu, it's going to be tricky down here and it's going to be one to two inches of rain an hour for a minute, and if you're out here, I'll get into the barge and watch your ass. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, don't try it if you don't have to.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, speaking of which, by the way, since we had L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, we told you we're getting some video stuff up. [SPEAKER_09]: We decided to go ahead and throw at least one clip up a little bit early on our YouTube channel. [SPEAKER_09]: YouTube.com slash at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: It's very simple. [SPEAKER_09]: And you can go and you can see we've got that there. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll put it out on the socials this evening as well.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's the whole interview with Mayor Karen Bass, if you missed it. [SPEAKER_09]: She was so nice. [SPEAKER_09]: She was so nice. [SPEAKER_12]: She's great. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, you're a fan. [SPEAKER_09]: It's understandable. [SPEAKER_08]: No, I'm not a fan. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not a fan. [SPEAKER_12]: It's not the right word. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm a supporter of hers. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: But I mean, you can be both a supporter and a fan.

[SPEAKER_12]: She's just, she was so gracious to be on and, uh, It's very cool. [SPEAKER_12]: She gave us a lot of time and she's doing a really, really good job and a very, very tough town. [SPEAKER_12]: Because people here just, [SPEAKER_09]: Sometimes, sometimes, although there are some also some nice people in the fifth round, we'll jump ahead a little bit, jump around a little bit in the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, as of midnight tonight, I believe Ali Velshey will be in the chair at MSNBC, and it will change to Miznow. [SPEAKER_12]: I think what I've been seeing is NBC ads about news now, and I think that's where they're going with that. [SPEAKER_12]: it's just bad branding. [SPEAKER_09]: It's just it's just it's just it's bad branding.

[SPEAKER_09]: I have noticed a very subtle change in the graphical logo because remember we were making fun of it first they've added in slight changes if if you're a graphics person if you've noticed this before you play around a Photoshop you you also will have noticed that they started to do just a little bit of a shade a little bit of a gradient here and there it's it's they've changed it just subtly enough.

[SPEAKER_09]: that most people haven't really noticed and it actually starts to look more professional now because it really did look like something made in MS paint. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, which it did. [SPEAKER_09]: Anywho. [SPEAKER_09]: So we'll see how that goes. [SPEAKER_09]: You know what I'm gonna say. [SPEAKER_09]: MS now is just stupid and I still don't necessarily have a problem calling. [SPEAKER_09]: If people refer to as MSNBC, I won't have a problem with it either.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, after all, they're allowing CNBC to keep their logo and the peacock and everything. [SPEAKER_09]: So whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Anywho, you had asked me last week, if I knew who was going to get the Carol Burnett Award and I asked you, of course, because I didn't know who's getting it. [SPEAKER_09]: That's what I asked. [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't know.

[SPEAKER_09]: So for those of you who have not heard Sarah Jessica Parker is getting this year's Carol Burnett Award asked the Golden Globe and she played Fred in a once upon a mattress once. [SPEAKER_12]: So there's that. [SPEAKER_12]: That's a nice, you know, connection there. [SPEAKER_08]: That's kind of cool. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's kind of cool. [SPEAKER_09]: She's SJ people remember people I've heard is actually a pretty nice person, pretty kind person.

[SPEAKER_09]: We talked about that this week. [SPEAKER_12]: Her husband is very kind. [SPEAKER_12]: I met him a long time ago before they came out. [SPEAKER_08]: Mr. Roderick? [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_09]: Which, that's that's somebody who I think that would be fun, actually I would, you know. [SPEAKER_09]: He was. [SPEAKER_09]: Although honestly, I, if I met him, I would have to be like, you know, go to shake his hand and I'm like, I'm able to throw him in.

[SPEAKER_12]: No, I met him when he was doing Biloxy blues. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_12]: He was here in town and my sister Aaron and I went, and we were able to go backstage. [SPEAKER_12]: And so we knock on his, excuse me, I'm fine. [SPEAKER_09]: It's okay, look, look, drinking and talking, also sometimes don't work. [SPEAKER_09]: You have to do one and then the dumbness for myself. [SPEAKER_12]: Um, anyway. [SPEAKER_12]: So, so we went back and we knocked on his door.

[SPEAKER_12]: he said come in. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_12]: Thinking it was not us, I guess. [SPEAKER_12]: And so we walk in and he's putting his pants on.

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[SPEAKER_12]: Wow, so yeah, so he was touring at the time and he could not have been nicer Then I met him again several years like decades later At the tavern on the green my mom was doing something and so we were there And he was there and I said hi. [SPEAKER_12]: I met you my name is Jodi Hamilton. [SPEAKER_12]: I met you in the dressing room. [SPEAKER_12]: I remember that and like [SPEAKER_12]: You know, he's lovely.

[SPEAKER_12]: I've not met his bride ever, but he was very, very nice both times that I met him. [SPEAKER_12]: So it's nice to know that he's a nice guy. [SPEAKER_09]: I guess Randy used to know SJP and I'm like that's cool. [SPEAKER_09]: She always says she was nice. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, look, that's good to know. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, that's that, that's what he was like, okay, that's cool.

[SPEAKER_09]: Something else that was a little shocking, Ariana Grande at the red carpet and I believe Singapore got a costed, I don't know if you saw that Cynthia Rivo basically jumped into, I'm going to kick you ass mode at a girl. [SPEAKER_09]: This guy jumped over the fence, whatever, and then basically it was like, hi, like putting his head. [SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, and Cynthia was like, I'm going to, you know, right, this guy has done this [SPEAKER_09]: same guy's travel.

[SPEAKER_09]: He did it to Katy Perry. [SPEAKER_09]: No, I'm pretty sure he did it Katy Perry. [SPEAKER_09]: We've got the story there in the news on tap, but I'm pretty sure it's when she came to Singapore for a For a concert or something, but it's like dude, it's I'm pretty sure he probably no one no one house Singapore is with laws. [SPEAKER_12]: They're gonna They should if he keeps doing this. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_12]: And you don't want to get in trouble in Singapore. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, you don't

[SPEAKER_09]: uh... uh... there is some good news from the Asian and American corner of the world show you tini received the unanimous nationally MVP for the fourth time that is a record air in judge got the MVP for the third time in the american league and for those of you looking for some sports to watch this weekend other than you know football which some people whatever you watch the other kind of football uh... that is uh... women's soccer the end of the us out playoff's going on we've got the

[SPEAKER_09]: in the news on tap so you know I I honestly I like watching women soccer sometimes because they They want the wins more they care more

[SPEAKER_09]: kind of like sometimes when you watch certain college sports that maybe you're not necessarily top tier like okay for me volleyball top here but you know others or you watch just the other the people really want it like track and field sometimes you watch on like the Olympics stuff they really want it yeah fun to watch the people who really wanted the people who go do I'm here work so right and here we are a work but we like they here at work because we get a hangout with you also we get a hangout with Karen and Anita they will be here a little bit later so

[SPEAKER_09]: We're your top of the hour. [SPEAKER_09]: Here's what we're going to do. [SPEAKER_09]: You got to take care of things, you know, go down the hall, left, right, center, whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, we aim to please here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: You ain't too pleased, so we don't have to clean all that up. [SPEAKER_09]: And then when you come back, freshen up your drink, we'll have another round at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we

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[SPEAKER_09]: Friday, I am very glad it's Friday. [SPEAKER_09]: You are very glad it's Friday and I'm sure pretty much everybody in the Martyrs Glad it's Friday unless you happen to be listening on the podcast and it's Saturday in which case. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, that's cool We're hoping that you're having a good Saturday, too, but right now it's Friday night here at the politics bar, which means Karen and Anita will be in later to discuss this roller coaster week

[SPEAKER_09]: crazy ass week big thank you by the way to everybody who is listening on all of our great radio affiliates whether you happen to be listening on Georgia now on the ATL maybe you are listening on AM-950 Minneapolis Saint Paul maybe you are listening to the detour talk in Tennessee or AM-820 Chicago WCPT or maybe your list come progressive voices radio worldwide wherever you happen to be [SPEAKER_09]: so thank you for all of that.

[SPEAKER_09]: All right, Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: So it is Friday evening here at Politics Bar. [SPEAKER_09]: We talked about how, you know, that whole disgusting thing with Megan Kelly and Matt Gates and how it's all tied to Epstein and I just, it's just that the [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, Matt Gaetz could have been the attorney general and that should frighten a lot of people, but then again, it never should have been Donald Trump having a second term in the first place.

[SPEAKER_12]: So there are several million people I blame for that. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, about what, 76 million, something like that. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, and then the eight million that didn't vote. [SPEAKER_09]: Hmm, even more than that. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the third of America that basically didn't vote, God. [SPEAKER_09]: People vote every freaking time. [SPEAKER_09]: By the way, we are still glad for all of you who voted, a week and a half ago.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: And even though the Democrats added out over health care this week, this last week, and it wasn't much having an hour healthcare. [SPEAKER_09]: It was having an hour over the people who broke this shut down in a really stupid ass way.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think I told you with yesterday that I saw Philip Bump yet was last night because it was Wednesday night that Philip Bump was over at Stephanie rule show doing they do their little they do their little thing where they kind of have almost like they're in a bar but they're at their studios and he came in and he was like you know the problem was that the Democrats who wanted to get out the ones who were too cowardly they wanted to get out like two weeks in

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh my God, I'm scared. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm scared. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm scared if they had just if Democrats had just ramped down, walked it down gently. [SPEAKER_09]: Wouldn't have had all of this. [SPEAKER_09]: And you'd still have the same problem you have now, which is the fact that Republicans have no plan to replace the current healthcare health insurance system that we have. [SPEAKER_09]: They haven't had a plan in 15 years.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, [SPEAKER_12]: That's come to any floor of any part of Congress or the White House and look Democrats have been willing because Democrats have sent for a long time. [SPEAKER_09]: We like the ACA in as much as it does what it's supposed to do right now. [SPEAKER_09]: Who was it? [SPEAKER_09]: I'm trying to remember who it was this week on which social media platform.

[SPEAKER_09]: One of y'all here in the bar said to me he said that you don't pronounce it clutch pronounce it clutch and I said I'm sorry that just sounds too much like another word and so I pronounce it clutch because that's just how that goes. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just I'm not gonna buzz and there's no buzzer on that. [SPEAKER_09]: It's somewhere you have to pronounce correctly just saying the [SPEAKER_09]: Anywho, but the health care thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: So we've got a piece that's in the second round of the news on tap talking about the zombie health care puzzle. [SPEAKER_09]: It is a health care puzzle because other nations have tried it and pretty much every other successful nation around the world, every other major first world nation has come to some variation of the same solution, which is universal care.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: and Democrats have said to Republicans many times you don't like this great come up with another plan will listen because guess what we don't like this either but this works better than the garbage we had before this which absolutely didn't work at all so this works kind of kind it is better than not at all we would like one that worked even better than that but for whatever recent Republicans are like I don't want to do that.

[SPEAKER_09]: to come up with something better. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're as smart as you say you are, figure it out.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: And other countries, England, Canada, France, Germany, [SPEAKER_09]: They also they all have a combo plate to of of private and public and even if you say okay fine let's look at non-democracies Russia China guess what they cool that have Exactly, I guess what everybody has come to the same solution even though they come from all different directions They all come to the same solution which is guess what?

[SPEAKER_09]: Private health insurance as a thing doesn't work if that's all you have it's all you have like in England you can get Consier service in Canada you can get Consier service you can get be paid more than additional yeah there are there are other ways like you said you bits and pieces but the fact that matter is [SPEAKER_09]: by itself. [SPEAKER_09]: If all you've got is private sector, it doesn't work. [SPEAKER_09]: And we know that.

[SPEAKER_09]: And other nations have shown us that it doesn't work. [SPEAKER_09]: So it's kind of one of those funny things where hey, look who's y'all. [SPEAKER_09]: We got a new one of the bar here. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, there we are. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that's the video you were seeing coming in. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, I need a true blue pocket podcast in the bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Look at this. [SPEAKER_09]: So you have to have Karen hasn't her background today.

[SPEAKER_09]: She's coming in the door here. [SPEAKER_09]: She has Stephanie Miller and Jasmine Crockett. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, there are best friends. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, I mean, you know, looks definitely bows and kisses, Jasmine's feet. [SPEAKER_08]: I do that too. [SPEAKER_08]: If I let Jasmine, are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_08]: I do the same thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to be on Sean Hannity. [SPEAKER_08]: She did definitely, uh, Stephanie.

[SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_12]: She did she, she just, you know, my theory is, is he let her do it because he wanted it to be out there. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and also because Hannity has fun. [SPEAKER_09]: Hannity is one of those people who, for whatever reason, he likes to poke the bear. [SPEAKER_09]: And he likes to poke people even on his side. [SPEAKER_02]: And so you like Stephanie, you like Stephanie, you can tell he does no need to put it all on time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he does. [SPEAKER_12]: He would have talked over her otherwise. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: 100%. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: So I mean, you know, it's one of those where you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: I get it. [SPEAKER_09]: But I'm also just, it's just fun because of the fact that Stephanie got that the right wing did so much promotion for Stephanie Millie this week.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I know. [SPEAKER_09]: I know. [UNKNOWN]: I. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's all over the lab too. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everybody is showing that. [SPEAKER_09]: It was just, but we talked about Stephanie on the left all the time. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, we talked about Stephanie, a Bob show. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: We just went to Coldstand with Sam and we'll talk about it. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, well, we all talk, we all talk about each other on our side, which is fine.

[SPEAKER_09]: So it's nice when the folks on the other side are also talking about us. [SPEAKER_12]: And it was the dumbest thing for it to be first on Jesse Waters. [SPEAKER_12]: And then on Sean Hannity the number one rated show on that network like seriously This is what you think is news I think Laura Engrom did a segment on a show.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's I'm like, but she that she made that clear how silly it was The Epstein-Palestin why aren't you showing me if you talked about the Epstein-Palestin That was the thing as soon as I saw the stuff as soon as I saw stuff do that I was just I'm like I knew that she had planned that and I'm doing the thinking of myself I'm like girl [SPEAKER_09]: So, I mean, they are friends, but I just, I was laughing because I was just like, you know, that is freaking perfect stuff.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is just. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it was really good. [SPEAKER_12]: It was hilarious that he bothered to his producers or he bothered to have her on the show because what a dumb story. [SPEAKER_02]: We have to fill it. [SPEAKER_02]: They have to fill their shows with something other than Epstein right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I just love that she can't bring in it up. [SPEAKER_02]: Bring in it up. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to avoid it, and they did.

[SPEAKER_12]: And the fact that he's kept talking about Joe Biden. [SPEAKER_12]: And she said. [SPEAKER_12]: But wait, the dementia that Donald has. [SPEAKER_09]: But the way that she did it, it was, you know, what's interesting about the Joe Biden thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has it. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: She was talking about Trump and it's obvious, I mean, they never talk about him falling asleep all the time or other things that she brought up. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Stephanie was just, it was, it was just chef's kid. [SPEAKER_12]: It really was, it was very good and I'm glad it got what it did, but it was just like, what were they thinking at Fox News? [SPEAKER_09]: Well, remember they, they invite Steph on usually about once a decade. [SPEAKER_09]: Once a year.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, every year. [SPEAKER_02]: they take the chances. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, well, they, they're like, they're like, crap, we can't talk about this subject. [SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_09]: We're kind of the bottom of the barrel. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_09]: I can talk about cold. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just sort of about Jasmine Crocket getting your feet kick. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, right. [SPEAKER_09]: But then they call Steph and that she goes on.

[SPEAKER_09]: She does something like she kicks their ass and then they're like, okay. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, that's why we haven't had her on in a decade. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh goodness. [SPEAKER_09]: So it has been a roller coaster week for news. [SPEAKER_09]: How have you two been fairing? [SPEAKER_02]: It's been like you said a roller coaster.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's been kind of exciting, but I mean it's depressing the subject, but I mean we'll have to talk about some of the stuff obviously there's some stuff going on with Texas A&M obviously there's some stuff at broad view today. [SPEAKER_09]: There's some more stuff although there's been some good news this week in the immigration wars out of Chicago.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm glad I think most of the people in your neck of the of the bar care and have actually been paying attention to the rules That was one thing that you were really wanting folks to do when I think I think I think maybe they listen to you and listen to a few of the others who said look you got to be good if you're going to protest be good. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, yes, we smart about it.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, smart about it and now there was something of course because we had some good news where [SPEAKER_11]: You know, the judge, um, basically ruled that they would have to release, um, the Christmas list, yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, now ever 600 other things, but they're feeling more cases. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_11]: And so now they are, um, but bovino.

[SPEAKER_11]: ranted that these immigrants, including those detained without warrants, were criminals and people taking jobs from Americans. [SPEAKER_11]: And so now he has... Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: So he was, you know, chastizing Governor Pritzker, and he said in Bovino didn't stop there. [SPEAKER_11]: He attacked Illinois Governor JB Pritzker directly, sneering that Chicago is a very corrupt system and promising that the Governor will soon see a lot more.

[SPEAKER_09]: immigration and forcement and they're talking about having it up with the law foot of snow and Bavina like the Southern California was guy that he is. [SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: No women in Southern California or tough. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you, Judy. [SPEAKER_09]: But the was guy that he is. [SPEAKER_09]: They had a foot of snow and he hauled ass. [SPEAKER_09]: Now he's going to Charlotte, North Carolina. [SPEAKER_09]: That is the next target for DHS.

[SPEAKER_09]: So for those of you who are in the Charlotte area, [SPEAKER_09]: All people watch out and, you know, seriously, learn from the folks in LA and the folks in DC and the folks in Chicago and the folks in Portland all have gone before you and taught you the steps that you need to do if you don't have your inflatable frog or unicorn costumes there in North Carolina. [SPEAKER_09]: I highly recommend that.

[SPEAKER_09]: You get that one, you know, make sure you got your banners on your overpasses like Malcolm, Malcolm. [SPEAKER_09]: That's a fun. [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure you have them. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Make sure that you've got your your neighborhood watch groups and your tech groups. [SPEAKER_09]: So as soon as the soon exactly as soon as the ice monsters come down your neighborhood like Jared here in DC says when they notice everybody in neighborhood gets a message.

[SPEAKER_09]: So y'all follow the tricks that everybody else has done. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Because that's how we make through is as a community as it together. [SPEAKER_09]: That's how we do it. [SPEAKER_09]: Amen. [SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: All right, y'all. [SPEAKER_09]: It is it is Friday night. [SPEAKER_09]: We got Karen. [SPEAKER_09]: We got Anita. [SPEAKER_09]: We got Jodi. [SPEAKER_09]: We got me.

[SPEAKER_09]: And we got you as well, which, you know, look, you guys are the ones who make this possible. [SPEAKER_09]: And we really appreciate it. [SPEAKER_09]: So thank you very much for all of you who are listening. [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, all of you subscribe to the podcast as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Who's ready to do we're going to clean up all these drinks? [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, we got more drinks on the way. [SPEAKER_09]: We got more shots on the taps.

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[SPEAKER_09]: She can just talk, you can talk stuff, you don't have to worry about, you know, whatever you don't have to worry about getting up in the morning, which is nice. [SPEAKER_09]: That's true. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, sleep in. [SPEAKER_09]: So, which is pretty good. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, obviously we told them about the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: If you guys missed the drink of the day, [SPEAKER_09]: Look, the smart thing to do is subscribe, and subscribe to politicsbar.com $6 a month.

[SPEAKER_09]: We'll get you the drink today along with the podcast ad free, and you get you that news on tap as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Check it out at politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_09]: All right, Karen and Anita, um, obviously talked a little bit about the, uh, the immigration stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, I still can't believe that they are trying to beat up the faith leaders. [SPEAKER_09]: Some of them were arrested today. [SPEAKER_09]: It's ridiculous.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, you realize, you know, depending on what your belief system is, but for those people who believe in any type of, of, of, you know, gods, whatever, um, god, god, whatever he, she, they swamped thing, whatever he is.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh y'all beat nobody from the cloth of whatever cloths you know that is bad politics it is fact I mean I don't understand these people you know people talk about Trump being such a great politician [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think so. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, this kind of stuff, I guess these people don't realize what this looks like to other people. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the post mad and cat. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, the United States bishops are pissed off.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: The conference of Catholic bishops this week to do a rare thing and order anything where they're like, ah, this beating up immigrants and dragon asses, that is not acceptable. [SPEAKER_02]: And they say they're doing a name of Christianity. [SPEAKER_02]: That's a name of Christianity. [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not. [SPEAKER_02]: It's the opposite of Christian. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's literally the opposite of that. [SPEAKER_11]: The Christmas story.

[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: He says, welcome to Stranger. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much more clear he could be about that. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, look, if you guys missed it, John talks about this. [SPEAKER_09]: John Fugel sang, we had him in last week. [SPEAKER_09]: He talks about it quite a bit in his exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: He talks about it quite a bit in his book separation of church and hate. [SPEAKER_09]: And there is a pay per view.

[SPEAKER_09]: We put it out on the social last night. [SPEAKER_09]: We will put it out again tonight. [SPEAKER_09]: Pay per view as tomorrow night. [SPEAKER_09]: So if you missed it, you can send it home to our night. [SPEAKER_09]: Me, look live. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll put it on the socials again.

[SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, the whole trying to abscond with Christianity thing, [SPEAKER_09]: I'm, you know, I'm kind of semi-agnostic, you know, I think there's something by not necessarily, you know, it's brought Lutheran, whatever, but the whole thing for me is just the fact of, of whether it's a preacher or priest or rabbi or in a mom or whatever spiritual leader.

[SPEAKER_09]: There's a certain level of respect that you know, and these people are, these people are, [SPEAKER_09]: what they're all saying, this group of organized, universal that they're from like every faith and they're saying the people who are in the detention center are not that you guys aren't allowing us to to give them spiritual assistance. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you know, and not all that, but now they're making everybody on snap, 42 million people.

[SPEAKER_02]: We apply. [SPEAKER_09]: That's it's so it's so messed up. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, they they may do that. [SPEAKER_09]: That is that is a discussion. [SPEAKER_09]: They may actually cut snap. [SPEAKER_09]: We actually have that happened to be in the news on. [SPEAKER_02]: What else is now? [SPEAKER_09]: Kidding you. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I guaranteed that. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess it has to go through the house. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember, I mean, yeah, it has to go through back.

[SPEAKER_09]: The only the only guarantees with this regime. [SPEAKER_09]: The only guarantees with this regime is after you already have something. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Is yet again another reason that I'm really glad that what we did a week and a half ago on those elections that we showed so many Republicans, my group of Republicans, the door, but we need to keep doing that in every single level. [SPEAKER_09]: There's an election that is in Tennessee, African Bane.

[SPEAKER_09]: uh... tenancy seven special election still coming up i would like to see democrats take that one as well uh... going to be down the house he did you know that democrats are going to be down the house he cuz mikey sharele has got a step down here in a couple weeks uh... she got to go be governor of new jersey which congrats to mikey for that but you know [SPEAKER_02]: we have a runoff in Texas. [SPEAKER_02]: Now that's not true.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but still, it's a runoff in a very opportunity. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know exactly when they're having it, but I know there's a runoff there. [SPEAKER_02]: And the Democrat is head. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: to be paying attention to that. [SPEAKER_09]: The closer it gets, we'll we'll focus on that a little bit more. [SPEAKER_09]: We have something down in the miscellaneous, but important section of the news on tap today.

[SPEAKER_09]: Texas A&M titans rules on talking about race and gender in classes, which is just to me. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_09]: Professors there basically now have to go that they sometimes may have to ask Mother may I please talk about race in gender to the chance on with it's ridiculous I don't These are college these are college and the whole students these are deaths right exactly They're choosing to take these classes [SPEAKER_02]: Because they want to talk about that. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know why. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not surprised with A&M. [SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very conservative school. [SPEAKER_02]: But I know my nephew went there. [SPEAKER_02]: My, my stepfather went there. [SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people that went there. [SPEAKER_09]: There was a conservative. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But there's, there's a certain, there's a certain difference between conservative and head-up ass manga.

[SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, like, I, [SPEAKER_09]: Bruce, Bruce Bartlin, I are talking back and forth. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm trying to convince him to come into the bar. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, okay, whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: He's got his new sub stack. [SPEAKER_09]: And that is a big thing that he has been harping about lately. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, you know, funny thing. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm looking at TV, Tim Miller's been all over MSNBC lately.

[SPEAKER_09]: We've got a clip of him actually in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_09]: Tim Miller used to be Mitt Romney's flat. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, he was. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and get push. [SPEAKER_09]: We've got all these people because they're like there is only one party that is sane right now They ate the Republican party. [SPEAKER_12]: Nope. [SPEAKER_12]: No bill for stole.

[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but now I'm like I like bills now, but it's It's Katie David's fun. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we can go on The people that we never thought we'd be, you know, you know, all of these people. [SPEAKER_09]: All of these people. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we love Joe. [SPEAKER_09]: He's great.

[SPEAKER_09]: But all of these people are saying now That's just it's it's and it's not like they weren't necessarily saying before, but the party the Republican party is just gone so far off the rails [SPEAKER_09]: But so many of them, as this stuff comes out with the F's team stuff, as the stuff is out there with Matt Gates, and now this stuff with Megan Kelly and her, okaying it, yeah, and then they're all like Megan Kelly, they're like, hey, it's no big deal.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just a little bit of a deal, so I'm going to live 15. [SPEAKER_02]: But the problem is that Republican Party seems to be okay. [SPEAKER_02]: It's everything that's going on. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they are okay with that. [SPEAKER_09]: It got him trying to remember the chartal's Gabba, who we've had to hear before, does a lot of the health care data stuff, the ACA, the ACA signups.net, legendary quote that literally lives on long after the tweet itself was put out.

[SPEAKER_09]: But it was, I think, right after the night of the 2016 election, [SPEAKER_09]: not all Republicans are racist, but all Republicans are okay with racism. [SPEAKER_02]: All racist vote, Republicans, but the ones that similar weren't okay with racism. [SPEAKER_02]: that voted for Hillary. [SPEAKER_02]: And there's not that many of them. [SPEAKER_02]: There's Tim Miller. [SPEAKER_02]: There's, you know, like we just talked about. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a field.

[SPEAKER_02]: This, I don't know about this, Cheney. [SPEAKER_09]: But that's the difference between conservatives and Maga. [SPEAKER_09]: The Maga folks are okay with raping kids and black people and brown people being second class citizens and women being second class. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a Republican party. [SPEAKER_09]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_09]: It is. [SPEAKER_09]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is. [SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican, but they're progressing. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: Blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_12]: But it's different time. [SPEAKER_12]: I have had arguments with, uh, [SPEAKER_12]: family members over over the Democrats were always the the racist and like not since the late 60s kids We swim Who's the confederance the all the confederate states are now republicans exactly?

[SPEAKER_12]: We switched in the 1960s when Johnson helped pass the civil rights bill And he knew he was gonna lose a South. [SPEAKER_12]: He's like I'm done the South. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on my own So there's no more good in a generation. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a generation [SPEAKER_12]: He's right. [SPEAKER_12]: And so when people go a Lincoln, I'm like Lincoln when being involved in this party at all. [SPEAKER_12]: They're not the party of Lincoln. [SPEAKER_12]: I hate that.

[SPEAKER_02]: They've been the part a rain at this point. [SPEAKER_02]: But I heard that Lincoln was a misogynist and a homophobic. [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious how mine. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it was it was a very different time. [SPEAKER_02]: And there was no that's my point. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kidding. [SPEAKER_02]: Because I can definitely [SPEAKER_09]: log cabin Republican to lose.

[SPEAKER_09]: I do think I do think it's interesting though that you know we've been seeing this stuff this week and now of course it's in the news on tap today in the fourth round the election land section. [SPEAKER_09]: So the Trump DOJ is trying to sue in an attempt to block the California US map change I find that funny because that's just going to be laughed at a court. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_12]: It's, I mean, it was a ballot.

[SPEAKER_12]: It wasn't like the legislator lifted in it. [SPEAKER_09]: Like they can do Texas. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: The federal government has absolutely no standing in a state issue like that. [SPEAKER_09]: No, especially a state. [SPEAKER_09]: The back of issue. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they got, they got no standing whatsoever. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, there are Republicans in this state that are trying to do that. [SPEAKER_12]: So they just kind of.

[SPEAKER_12]: on board with the same lawsuit. [SPEAKER_12]: And so Republicans in the state have standing, but there it's it was a ballot measure. [SPEAKER_09]: But we have standing Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, but the federal they don't the DOJ. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a waste of time. [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, is that Pennsylvania or was it Texas at that time?

[SPEAKER_02]: during the after the 2020 election, they tried to tell, say, hey, Pennsylvania was in fair. [SPEAKER_02]: They did. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: That's a whole other thing. [SPEAKER_09]: So it's over the war. [SPEAKER_09]: We're in the court section of the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_09]: So first things first. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, Bill Palty, who we all know is corrupt is all get out over at the FHS housing. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: Um, another referral, Eric's wall will send you out and swallow this right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, for for quote unquote, more. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, except except we also have the nice, we try to do this to put it to make it easy for people to understand that when they look at the news on tap. [SPEAKER_09]: So. [SPEAKER_09]: There's the story about Bill Pulta recommending Erick Swallwell to be convicted of quote unquote mortgage fraud.

[SPEAKER_09]: And then the story right underneath it that says topfany may officials were ousted after sounding the alarm about Bill Pulta abusing confidential housing data to target Trump foes. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, what a bunch. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: I know let go and fired.

[SPEAKER_09]: for saying hi that I heard nobody likes this guy either no he's yes I mean yeah and and a fact is is that there are a number of Republicans even matter Republicans who are like [SPEAKER_09]: Remember we talked earlier this week, Jody about the tilt like on a pinball and they're saying the same thing. [SPEAKER_09]: They're saying Pultate does not seem to understand tilt that dude, you are tilting things way too far and you're gonna screw all of us.

[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, Karen, you're a real state person. [SPEAKER_12]: And so a 50 year mortgage is... [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my god, that yeah, please explain it to the folks in the bar who don't quite understand since your real estate profession. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, look, I'm not a lender. [SPEAKER_11]: So I'm still don't. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, but still more than anybody else here does, that's for sure. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I mean, it's, it's not, it's definitely not a good idea.

[SPEAKER_11]: No, for sure. [SPEAKER_11]: So I just, it's a gift to the banks. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, that's the only people that have benefited. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, the average age now for people buying their first home is late 30s. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, early 40s. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, officially officially, it is now 40 years old. [SPEAKER_02]: That's way too old. [SPEAKER_02]: Certainly.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even a long enough at that point. [SPEAKER_02]: I heard if you bought a $500,000 house, you'll like to pay a million dollars for that. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, pretty much. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, no, I mean, my house I bought mine, mine, and when I bought my house, it was 295. [SPEAKER_12]: 30 years had I had the original note because I have re-fied. [SPEAKER_12]: The original note, it would have cost me 635,000 dollars.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think that's what you're right 30 year appreciation I get that I understand that's 30 years and I had a 7.75 interest on it so is high interest rate. [SPEAKER_09]: Wow. [SPEAKER_09]: I was 26. [SPEAKER_09]: I was 25 more than 25. [SPEAKER_11]: And that's that. [SPEAKER_11]: That's that, honestly, is not even a historically high range. [SPEAKER_09]: No, it's not. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, a drag in it. [SPEAKER_11]: Really high.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yes, it wasn't like 18% on a really high yeah, no, I mean and everybody when they were complaining a couple of years ago about mortgage rates being at 7% I don't do that. [SPEAKER_12]: I was an 8% almost 8% what are you talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: I think our state for sample we were refinanced it back in the Bush.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I refined a long time ago and there's more stuff tied to this whole thing with bill poltay and with Eric Swallwell that actually ties back to 2020 [SPEAKER_09]: Well, that's when yeah, we look. [SPEAKER_09]: I want to get into that because it's one of those things where just like the Epstein files have come back from the dead and the healthcare issue is a zombie that Republicans can't kill the 2020 election and Trump's criminality in it.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is also in the news today. [SPEAKER_09]: So look. [SPEAKER_09]: We're coming up to last call. [SPEAKER_09]: Fresh enough your drinks in the break here. [SPEAKER_09]: If you maybe want to go check out the store at the politicsbar.com, get yourself some nice new duds. [SPEAKER_09]: After all, the holidays are coming up. [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe get somebody else that you love. [SPEAKER_09]: Some duds. [SPEAKER_09]: Go check that out.

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[SPEAKER_09]: So, okay, we were talking about how Bill Pultay who the housing guy has put out this crap charge now against Swallwell [SPEAKER_12]: And Swallow did say it's about time I've been waiting for us because I'm sure he did. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, he did. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Mostly staff child. [SPEAKER_12]: And he might be running for governor. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, he might, he might, he might, he might, we'll find out next couple of weeks.

[SPEAKER_09]: But Swallwell is still one of the only people who has an open lawsuit. [SPEAKER_09]: It has Donald Trump for inciting the 2020 insurrection on January 6th. [SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, this idea that all these people is trying to go after, let's just say James and Colmy and it's like all of these people have been people who have

[SPEAKER_09]: You know, swung at Trump and so you know Trump's I'm going to get these people and it's just dumb because it ties back He's not the only it's not the only tie back to the 2020 election So in Georgia they have a new prosecutor who is going to sub in for Fanny Willis take on the 2020 Georgia criminal election cases So that person if they are going to do their job correctly, they will probably actually have to do some

[SPEAKER_09]: some work and there may be some more charges and show help and then in Nevada, the Nevada Supreme Force has revived the criminal cases over Trump's fake electors gambit from 2020 as well. [SPEAKER_09]: That team election just keeps coming back to bite us all in the ass. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is so important, though, because they're going to try to fake electors stuff again. [SPEAKER_09]: They are absolutely, I don't disagree that it's important.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm just like, you know, the core of it all goes back to Donald Trump not being able to accept that people hate his guts, and that more of us dislike him than like him. [SPEAKER_09]: Hell, the man right now has a 67% disapproval rating. [SPEAKER_12]: No, wait, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_12]: He has a 92% approval. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, yeah, heard that. [SPEAKER_08]: Like, uh, I'm like, oh, he doesn't mind his mind only. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, why does he come up with those numbers?

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's brain. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: The great thing that's like, the tapioca that's in his head. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, he is not popular. [SPEAKER_02]: And not only is he not popular, but none of his policies are popular. [SPEAKER_02]: They're a whole lot. [SPEAKER_02]: People hate them. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, people hate all the things that he's doing with immigration with the economy. [SPEAKER_09]: Correct.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, oh, there's actually there's some, there's some tariff news that obviously the ranchers in here in the United States are, they're pissed about this, too. [SPEAKER_09]: So the White House has agreed to lower some of the tariffs on Latin American countries, including Argentina. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, which is my good. [SPEAKER_12]: It's make Argentina great again. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, they're also going to be Argentine Argentinian coffee.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's how they're going to lower prices on coffee by importing from Argentina with less tariffs. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, which whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, we don't make coffee that much other than why we're still. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: But still, we get off of our coffee. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And what about bananas? [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: These, these, these terrors are stupid for bananas reasons, banana, banana, banana, banana, banana, banana, banana, another thing they're trying to get from Argentina. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's just a lot of this stuff that absolutely, and the whole thing about this is Trump ran if everybody remembers on groceries, which was to him before it was a new word, he just made it up. [SPEAKER_02]: I never heard of it before he said it.

[SPEAKER_09]: The word that we have been talking about here since we opened the bars, since before we opened the bar, our affordability, [SPEAKER_09]: accountability. [SPEAKER_09]: Those are two big words that you all need to be paying attention to. [SPEAKER_09]: It is funny to watch the right to watch the magas to watch the Republicans suddenly be talking about affordability and even to a small degree accountability.

[SPEAKER_09]: Although they're trying to say accountability, let's go get Democrats, but yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, where's the media when they, you know, when Trump talks about how great the economy is and how affordable everything is? [SPEAKER_11]: And, you know, but why are Americans feeling it? [SPEAKER_11]: Well, you know, they, you know, right, they're fact checking them. [SPEAKER_12]: That's what Sean asked Stephanie's the other night. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's what we said about Biden.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, well, the economy economists say the economy's great, but I'm people feeling it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, about it earlier in the week, too. [SPEAKER_09]: The whole thing that some of the mainstream folks are, they're comparing it to Biden. [SPEAKER_09]: The difference was is under Biden, the economy actually was doing that. [SPEAKER_02]: It was. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly right. [SPEAKER_09]: And not only that, but he inherited a mess exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: and Trump inherited an amazing economy. [SPEAKER_02]: Both of them. [SPEAKER_09]: From Obama, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Both times. [SPEAKER_02]: No, from both. [SPEAKER_12]: It's doing it again. [SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_09]: It's balloons, balloons, balloons, whatever. [SPEAKER_12]: I do it. [SPEAKER_12]: And not only doesn't do it again. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know what's happening. [SPEAKER_02]: And not only that, but the inflation under Trump is, he did that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Single handsily. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not what do they call it? [SPEAKER_09]: Naturally occurring. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not what we're doing. [SPEAKER_02]: supply chain issues out of coming out of COVID. [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, happy to see that. [SPEAKER_09]: And now it's and now it's issues because of his stupid ass tariffs and all that. [SPEAKER_09]: A few times it was stuff that he could have prevented or could have.

[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, and what the the nasty rotations are going to do to the economy as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it has been doing to the economy. [SPEAKER_09]: So much of that because certain sectors including agriculture, which of course affects all of us with food [SPEAKER_12]: One of my favorite Mexican restaurants in the valley here, yeah, so many new servers. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, my bad.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, because we knew all the servers for years and now they're like not, they are afraid to go to work. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, my gosh. [SPEAKER_12]: That's the one that we met. [SPEAKER_12]: We met that. [SPEAKER_12]: That's the same place. [SPEAKER_12]: And I mean, we met another guy last night. [SPEAKER_12]: He was lovely. [SPEAKER_12]: Um, but it was like, [SPEAKER_12]: where are my guys that I have known for years, you know, yeah, we have a lot of restaurants like that.

[SPEAKER_09]: I've had a couple of restaurants in my neighborhood where I used to know, yeah, I used to recognize the people and they're different here to now. [SPEAKER_12]: So that's, it's, I mean, the guy that we served us yesterday was very good at his job, by the way, but there was another guy that served us [SPEAKER_12]: for the first time he was there and he was not good at it. [SPEAKER_12]: Now he's gotten better because it was his first time doing stuff.

[SPEAKER_12]: So yeah, but it was just, it's interesting to walk into his restaurant that I've been going to for 30. [SPEAKER_02]: And you don't recognize anybody. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, so sad. [SPEAKER_11]: And then you don't know what happened to him. [SPEAKER_11]: Do where they, are they, because I don't have to come to work. [SPEAKER_11]: We don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you all hear about the president of the Republican Republican Party at Boston College turned in or it called ice on this call wash because these people there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he said criminals, why are they here taking our jobs. [SPEAKER_02]: And so of course, ice finally showed up. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, took nine people from there and turns out this guy was a boy here. [SPEAKER_02]: He was born in the UK.

[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, the guy, the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's the guy who's

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I mean, it's just these people. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't get it. [SPEAKER_12]: I don't get it monsters exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: That's just the dumbest thing to me. [SPEAKER_09]: And and I have something we didn't put in the news on tap this week, but it is, you know, we've had Parker Maloy in the bar before and I love her. [SPEAKER_09]: She's great.

[SPEAKER_09]: She's a freaking great journalist, but she, you know, she's a little bit down on on the media right now. [SPEAKER_09]: And I understand this because she says, you know, a lot of the the legit media, the good media has been replaced with nuts, basically, right wing nuts. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't let me start on CD right there.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But I don't [SPEAKER_09]: She's almost in a effort kind of a thing and I'm like Parker, you know, I, I just, I could she's lovely. [SPEAKER_08]: We need to have her back on, we need to do it. [SPEAKER_08]: We should do sure back. [SPEAKER_09]: Because she is, she is a brilliant journalist and I'm like, the thing that I am seeing. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: This is anecdotal. [SPEAKER_09]: This is anecdata, as they say.

[SPEAKER_09]: But the thing that I'm seeing and in all your corners of the bar, you can mention it to me too. [SPEAKER_09]: You can, you know, mention to hear if you, if you're seeing the same thing, is that people [SPEAKER_09]: a lot of people who they're not necessarily news folks, but they like to occasionally you know pay attention to the news. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and they see that a lot of the mainstream media is failing.

[SPEAKER_09]: But instead of turning to right-wing alternatives or like CBS, which has been leaning more right obviously since now they've been taken over by you know right-wing nut job. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, they just go find whatever and they just ignore it. [SPEAKER_09]: They're like I'm not going to pay attention to news. [SPEAKER_09]: their their choices instead of I know people like that.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I know people that have done that. [SPEAKER_02]: And they should. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: So remaining informed. [SPEAKER_09]: They just, they turn it off and they're like, I'm done. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, they stop reading of Karen. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, you know, people like that in Chicago corner of the bar. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, are you seeing that in the LA?

[SPEAKER_12]: Well, you know, it's interesting. [SPEAKER_12]: It's weird. [SPEAKER_12]: Spectra one news here. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: It's so non-political. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, from spectrum spectrum spectrum one. [SPEAKER_09]: It's just like New York wanting in it's that which is also a spectrum in New York, but it's the spectrum one in LA and it's New York wanting New York. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's very nonpartisan and it's very good. [SPEAKER_09]: Really.

[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, they're really good. [SPEAKER_12]: It's so like, hi, how are you doing? [SPEAKER_12]: And it's so not. [SPEAKER_12]: political. [SPEAKER_12]: It's not as it's news boring. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not as boring as the BBC or I'll just hearing English. [SPEAKER_09]: No, it's good. [SPEAKER_09]: But it's still. [SPEAKER_12]: It's weirdly good. [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm like, okay. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: No, it's not entertaining. [SPEAKER_12]: It's newsworthy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the best. [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes you have to be entertaining. [SPEAKER_02]: Keep you posted. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, when she had the fires in January, there's this one for a quarter. [SPEAKER_12]: God bless him. [SPEAKER_12]: Um, I'm or it. [SPEAKER_12]: I believe it's his first name. [SPEAKER_12]: He was on for like two days.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: And you could see that he hadn't shaved, you know, it's a whole, you know, dedicated to making his judge. [SPEAKER_12]: He was dedicated to going, this is what's happening. [SPEAKER_12]: Go this way. [SPEAKER_12]: And I'm like, it was like amazing to watch and I love that guy. [SPEAKER_12]: And it's very, for me, Spectrum one news, and I'm not a fan of Spectrum.

[SPEAKER_12]: if they have a decent news they do it's amazing and it's so non-partisan and there's they're local they're local uh people that used to work on ABC here and they're now back that I haven't seen in years and they're local people that know local stuff and it's it's really like [SPEAKER_12]: I love it. [SPEAKER_12]: It's nice.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's nice when you have people who are dedicated to the craft who are dedicated to and and understand their response ability to to inform and I'm not saying look we every human being has biases. [SPEAKER_09]: But to inform in as much without biases as possible. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: So put it out there, have it be somewhat dry. [SPEAKER_09]: But spectrum usually isn't so dry. [SPEAKER_09]: They are.

[SPEAKER_09]: And that's why I said they're a little bit in some ways in BBC because they're not, they're not born. [SPEAKER_09]: They're not flat. [SPEAKER_09]: They present it with a little bit more spice in their voice. [SPEAKER_09]: But they don't put the spice in their mouth. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I mean, with the spectrum here, [SPEAKER_12]: What can I say it was just lovely what they did during the fires especially?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I mean, they're certain people that I appreciate it made you appreciate your local news. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes, exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: And it was at ABC local. [SPEAKER_12]: It wasn't KTLA. [SPEAKER_12]: Hey, wasn't that's that. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's here CBS local. [SPEAKER_09]: We's good is always good to appreciate your local news. [SPEAKER_09]: I appreciate any news or goods doing good. [SPEAKER_09]: Remember we said this before it folks.

[SPEAKER_09]: Get out there on your socials. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: It nails whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: Let the people know who are doing a good job It's a good thing for you to do this for a long time, too And thanks a little listen release the Epstein files. [SPEAKER_09]: Take care of your team files Look we got a little bit of a burn here In the after hours.

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