Grampy Donald Returns

[SPEAKER_06]: It's political Thinking radical You think it's a far away But you are the politics Shotsmith Pearson, Jodie Hamilton Hey, Jodie, guess what? [SPEAKER_02]: Guess what? [SPEAKER_02]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: Why, Sean? [SPEAKER_03]: It's hope dayy [SPEAKER_03]: It's also a very good day for Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: I got to say to be honest, there's a lot of good news out there today.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't think everybody, especially in the mainstream media is talking about it. [SPEAKER_03]: So we are definitely gonna have talk about all of that. [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about it with Bob Cesska talk about more about the Donnie at the McDonald's event. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, I know some people are really slurping that one up. [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, well, we'll talk about all of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you by the way to everybody coming into the bar from wherever you are. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that happens to be WCPT AMA 20 Chicago or Georgia now radio in the ATL. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you are listening on AM-950 Minneapolis, April. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're listening in Tennessee. [SPEAKER_03]: There's an election now. [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk to you, D2, or talk folks.

[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, maybe you are listening on progressive voices radio worldwide, wherever you happen to be, or maybe you're listening on the podcast, you're one of those. [SPEAKER_03]: future people exactly which you know great if you're a future person fantastic Please, you know send us back some of the the winning basketball scores so we can Hi back to future people come on exactly exactly I want to win the power ball Let me know the numbers. [SPEAKER_03]: Come on.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jody would share with you totally what exactly I would do like a half a billion dollars at the moment So yeah, that's what I'm saying yeah, it'd be plenty plenty to share spread it around to the good folks [SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I am a little little geeked up today because there are so many wins when you look at the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: The damn really is breaking.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's why we entitled the first round that [SPEAKER_03]: Just, just, just look at the, I mean, you and I, we, we create this stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: So we know, I mean, we've gone through the news list already. [SPEAKER_03]: You and I, Jody, but for those of you just get into the bar, let's just do a quick hit, shall we? [SPEAKER_03]: Trump has lost the Epstein files fight. [SPEAKER_03]: Republicans are in complete disarray and the polls are reflecting that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Republicans are already screwed in the next battle over healthcare and the polls are reflecting that. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got some new numbers from Charles Gabby. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk to you about those. [SPEAKER_03]: Donald especially, but also some Republicans have really shown you who they are, misogynists, corrupts, racist monsters. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and literally all in the last 24 hours, we've seen a whole bunch of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Trump is losing the immigration war, the war on government, where he's trying to screw everything up, there's some issues there. [SPEAKER_03]: The war in the courts, Trump's losing. [SPEAKER_03]: their Trump anomics is failing. [SPEAKER_03]: Trump and Republicans are getting their ass kicked in election land. [SPEAKER_03]: The world was laughing at them at foreign affairs. [SPEAKER_03]: Trump even got his ass kicked in the media. [SPEAKER_03]: He lost a case to see an end.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about so literally virtually every subject heading in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: Trump and or Republicans are getting their collective ass as what? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you hear you hear a whole lot about this in the mainstream journey. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm not hearing a lot about this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: normally that that that feeling you're feeling I know you're feeling that we're feeling you're like what is this yes we we felt it with all of the elections we are still feeling it better facts um did I did I show you the button here a few weeks back yes you did yeah okay yes yes because

[SPEAKER_03]: If you're wondering what it sounds like, even though Republicans in public are saying everything is going fine, over here in the Republic of America, everything is fine on the right, we're all doing well. [SPEAKER_03]: You want to know what it sounds like when they talk to each other, that's exactly what it sounds like. [SPEAKER_03]: They are terrified. [SPEAKER_03]: because they don't know what they have to do.

[SPEAKER_11]: Do you think that the reason that John Thune allowed the Chuck Schumer and the unanimous consent last night was because Mike Johnson called him Peter Thune?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the reason that John Thune allowed it, there is two fold. [SPEAKER_03]: One, I agree with you that I don't think that John Thune has any love lost for Tiny Johnson. [SPEAKER_03]: He is not. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, actually, Lawrence O'Donnell, this was depending on where you were at last night. [SPEAKER_03]: We were already cleaned up and he were headed out of the bar by that point, but Lawrence was on and he did this whole rundown.

[SPEAKER_03]: And there was this whole like three-minute segment of really why he considers Johnson a small man. [SPEAKER_03]: And I laughed and I'm just like, come on, Lawrence. [SPEAKER_03]: Colour County Jones do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, Lawrence. [SPEAKER_03]: Lawrence is so nice, he won't. [SPEAKER_03]: But he did. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, I, I, you know, posted on social media about it, but I thought it was funny.

[SPEAKER_03]: But the other reason is he let's, um, tune, let's, [SPEAKER_03]: Do unanimous consent because under unanimous consent, no single name is written down. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: But to me, it's unanimous. [SPEAKER_03]: But that means what it means is it is almost exclusively about campaigning.

[SPEAKER_03]: So when somebody tries to campaign against a Republican senator, they can't now say, well, someone so voted against it or so and so voted for unanimous consent is did you vote for it? [SPEAKER_03]: Did you not vote for it? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was unanimous consent. [SPEAKER_03]: Were you there? [SPEAKER_03]: Were you not? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Those unanimous consent. [SPEAKER_11]: It doesn't make sense to me because consent means we all voted for it.

[SPEAKER_03]: it's just amorphous. [SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those kind of things that if somebody tries to put it in ad, it's a little bit harder. [SPEAKER_03]: But if there's a line, if you can go to the congressional websites and it says Bob Smith voted yes or Bob Smith voted no, then they can point to it and they can cite it in their ads and they can say, see, if you say, well, they voted as part of unanimous consent.

[SPEAKER_03]: If nothing else, the the senator or house member or well, it's not because the house doesn't have it, but the senator can say, Oh, well, you know, I didn't really know what I was doing or my people said unanimous consent, the way that they do unanimous consent Lawrence, obviously used to work in the Senate, he talked about this last night, as he said, so it still goes out on a landline phone line throughout Congress. [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, you remember party lines I do.

[SPEAKER_03]: basically it's what it's a party line and if somebody has a complaint they can say no I have a problem with it, and then it's not unanimous consent. [SPEAKER_11]: But to me consent means I agree to what we're doing and when it's unanimous it means a hundred people. [SPEAKER_11]: Right, but do you have a reason to whatever it is that we are trying to get done? [SPEAKER_03]: think of it in on the other side of that line.

[SPEAKER_03]: A unanimous consent motion in the Senate is more of the no one disagreed with this. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So no one actively held up their hand and said, I have a problem with this. [SPEAKER_03]: Do you agree? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I didn't have hold up my hand and say agree. [SPEAKER_03]: If I had to hold up my hand and say agree, there would be a line item on the Senate vote that said Bob Smith agreed. [SPEAKER_11]: Is it like a present vote in the house?

[SPEAKER_03]: not exactly like a present vote in the house, but because we know who votes present, right, but for election purposes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for election purposes, there are there are people in the house when they vote present. [SPEAKER_03]: I was here, but I didn't vote yes or no for it. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then that can't be used against them in an election ad. [SPEAKER_03]: That can't be used against them in campaigning.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can't say so and so voted to, you know, so it's so amazing. [SPEAKER_11]: So that's it's more like a present vote. [SPEAKER_11]: kind of unanimous presence should be the way it is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's I didn't dissent. [SPEAKER_03]: I did not dissent. [SPEAKER_11]: Okay, then they need to stop using the word consent because as far as I'm concerned, all 100 consented to this.

[SPEAKER_03]: You think of consent and and honestly, I agree, especially with this [SPEAKER_03]: Trump and in Republican Party, which I went beyond that. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, this is this is one of the reasons folks. [SPEAKER_03]: Why it helps to have different, the the word consent while it means something in the Senate does not necessarily mean the same thing that it does in other parts of the world, like to call language. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's that too.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, which Jeffrey, as we all know, Jeffrey Epstein and knew nothing about. [SPEAKER_11]: These are just Donald. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: You get a bell for that. [SPEAKER_03]: Not a buzz because that you're 100% correct on that, Johnny. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, obviously this bill at some point, by the time you have you hear this, especially if you're future people, Donald may have already signed the bill that went to his desk last night. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then today, Pam Bondi was being asked because, remember we talked about this the other day that there's a new Gordon-Bode investigation by the SDN one.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, here's, I can't remember who it was that I heard that noted earlier today, that Bondi claimed this morning that there was new information, but previously she has said there is no new information. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, she said that a bunch of times.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she's [SPEAKER_03]: But so she was asked by journalist this morning, she said the journalist said we're on the Epstein files does the new investigation by SDNY prevent the DOJ from releasing all of the reigning files. [SPEAKER_03]: And this was Pamie's response. [SPEAKER_00]: So we have released 33,000 over 33,000 Epstein documents to the Hill and will continue to follow the law and to have maximum transparency.

[SPEAKER_00]: Also we will always encourage all victims to come forward. [SPEAKER_03]: notice what she didn't say. [SPEAKER_03]: She didn't answer the question. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's floating out there as to whether she'll delay it. [SPEAKER_03]: But because it's a law, they can Congress can now push it. [SPEAKER_11]: They can. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, of course, she would be the only. [SPEAKER_11]: That's how he gets he signs it. [SPEAKER_03]: He's just saying that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying when when he signs it, after he signs it, it's a 30 day clock that starts after he signs it. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Now if she's trying to play games with it, [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the Democrats in Congress can actually go except the problem is is that she's also the one that would have to enforce it. [SPEAKER_03]: However, there are other people in the Trump DOJ who have knives out for her. [SPEAKER_03]: And they could try to enforce it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So there's this is this is not easy stuff to understand. [SPEAKER_03]: So if you're sitting there going, I am confused. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sitting here in the bar tonight, Sean. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm hanging out with you and Jody. [SPEAKER_03]: And I am confused. [SPEAKER_03]: Just know that the house overwhelmingly passes. [SPEAKER_03]: The center overwhelming passes. [SPEAKER_03]: Trump will sign this stupid thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the clock starts ticking.

[SPEAKER_03]: And at that point, the DOJ has 30 days to release everything. [SPEAKER_03]: And if they don't, [SPEAKER_03]: they better have damn good reason why. [SPEAKER_03]: The reason I say this, this is there, there was something in half in the afternoon after we got off the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you don't remember Judge Bozberg? [SPEAKER_03]: You remember Judge Bozberg? [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, Judge Bozberg. [SPEAKER_03]: He's great.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was a guy who basically said the Trump regime could not be doing what they did by grabbing up immigrants and just shipping them off to El Salvador or Willie Nellie in the middle of the night because what the hell? [SPEAKER_03]: They feel like it. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the case made its way up and around and through and looped back and now it's back in Judge Boesburg's lap. [SPEAKER_03]: And this afternoon, Boesburg is saying, he's going to bring, he's going to demand.

[SPEAKER_03]: He can bring people in as a judge, as a federal judge. [SPEAKER_03]: He can bring people in and say, you will testify. [SPEAKER_03]: And if they don't, if they refuse to show up, he can throw their ass in jail. [SPEAKER_11]: Do you think he will? [SPEAKER_03]: I think most burgers pissed enough at the Trump G.O.D.O.J. [SPEAKER_03]: that he could depending on who it is as an object lesson to say when I say jump boy, you jump.

[SPEAKER_03]: Savvy, let's see, I think I think when he says that to the Trump people, [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be enough lower level people. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, it's not going to be the pandanese. [SPEAKER_11]: It's going to be people below them. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't get paid enough to have the ass thrown in jail. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't. [SPEAKER_03]: They'll be like, yes sir, I will be there sir.

[SPEAKER_11]: I don't want to lose my law license. [UNKNOWN]: I'll. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we'll have to talk about that, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Lindsey may be looking for a new tune. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Pam is actually going to be in trouble for that possibly as well, I know. [SPEAKER_03]: Literally the head of the DOJ could potentially lose for law license. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's definitely something we have to talk about tonight.

[SPEAKER_03]: We will also talk about, man, there's so much else going on in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: And Bob Saskas here, we've got to talk to him about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump slurping thing at the McDonald's. [SPEAKER_11]: That was insane. [SPEAKER_03]: I know. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll talk about all that. [SPEAKER_03]: We got a great drink of the day too coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: So here's what you do. [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh in your drink right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I ain't your mom, I ain't your dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, I ain't my dad, [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a problem with, look, I, I, I, I like play a fish. [SPEAKER_03]: I think I mentioned this yesterday and I'm okay with this.

[SPEAKER_11]: I've never had one. [SPEAKER_11]: So I have no, it's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever, you ever had like a crunchy breaded piece of fish? [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: On a sandwich? [SPEAKER_03]: Nope. [SPEAKER_03]: This basically is what it is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: But. [SPEAKER_03]: Again, you can do this. [SPEAKER_03]: You can do it in the app now. [SPEAKER_03]: When you've ordered pizza before, yeah, on your phone.

[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes they give you a little little symbols. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a half circle where, you know, I want peppers and mushrooms on this half and I want extra cheese on that half. [SPEAKER_03]: And you can do the same thing in the McDonald's app if you want to. [SPEAKER_03]: You can say extra sauce. [SPEAKER_03]: You can do the same thing in a lot of food places. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, you go to whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: You can chipotle.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's been you've been able to do it for years. [SPEAKER_03]: So he's again, Trump's complaint at this McDonald's franchise He's meeting that we were talking about yesterday about there's there's too much sauce or what he said there wasn't enough or not Again dude [SPEAKER_03]: Not everyone wants their sandwich the same way you do. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Geez. [SPEAKER_11]: Most people that commented with Bob were like, it's way too much of it on it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, wow, every night. [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe just needs to drink the tartar sauce, whilst eating the filet. [SPEAKER_03]: I think, look, they just need to put a bottle of tartar sauce next to his bottle of ketchup. [SPEAKER_03]: And then he can throw that when he gets mad as well. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look, hey, throws it at the white walls of the room. [SPEAKER_11]: But he's the president right now, he can get whatever the hell he wants to eat, anytime of day.

[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty much. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, pretty much from almost anywhere in the world. [SPEAKER_03]: There's somebody will pick it up and fly to him. [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, or make it they can get that kitchen is amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: The mess at the White House is amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: What do we'll have to talk with Bob about that because I know Stephanie is talking about at this morning.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I know you a Bob were talking about it. [SPEAKER_03]: Who else did I hear vaguely mentioned it? [SPEAKER_03]: I think Tom Hartman may have vaguely mentioned it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he did.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's it's it's just it's Donald being Donald and and we've definitely got some examples of that today in the news on tab So if you look down in the second round when they show you who they are what's what's that phrase when they show you who they are even them that's my answer damn skip my friend Roland is godmother [SPEAKER_03]: She's lucky that way, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: My is kind of the godmother to all of us in some ways, which is a damn good thing because some of y'all need more mothers and fathers, some y'all need seriously y'all did Hillary is right. [SPEAKER_03]: It does take a village. [SPEAKER_03]: For some of you people out there and actually takes a damn army. [SPEAKER_03]: I know because I want to, I, you know, anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: So here's the thing, Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned this yesterday.

[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about a little bit more yesterday, but we just, you know, we got off talk with Richard shoe. [SPEAKER_03]: We got off another things. [SPEAKER_03]: But so Donald Trump was a real a whole about this to Mary Bruce. [SPEAKER_03]: So, Mary Bruce, who is actually a really good journalist. [SPEAKER_03]: He really is. [SPEAKER_03]: I like her a lot. [SPEAKER_03]: I have put a lot of her clips in our news on tap over the last seven months.

[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, today is [SPEAKER_03]: That's the power of the open. [SPEAKER_11]: We started this, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for all of you who tell your friends about us. [SPEAKER_03]: So Mary Bruce was in the Oval Office or in the kind of, wasn't the Oval? [SPEAKER_03]: It was, where were they yesterday? [SPEAKER_03]: They were in the White House. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, I can't remember what whatever room they had for the meeting. [SPEAKER_03]: They had embezzers.

[SPEAKER_03]: They had Right, okay, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: They had Prince bin Salman of Saudi Arabia who is the guy who called for the murder and Organize the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi, which he did do that Okay, here's the thing, Jodi. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's a little pop trivia question for you [SPEAKER_03]: Who was the president when the U.S. National Intelligence Services confirmed that Prince M. B. S. actually put the hit out on Jamal Gashogi and organized it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Who was president then? [SPEAKER_11]: I believe it was Biden might have been president in 21. [SPEAKER_03]: Nope. [SPEAKER_03]: They started out in 2018. [SPEAKER_03]: Correct. [SPEAKER_11]: But it didn't want out until 21. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there were some stuff, no, even back then, but the fact was, is that they didn't, nobody was really doing anything about it because it's Donald and Saudi Arabia.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's had crap going on for ages, but this, this security services then. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been since 2018. [SPEAKER_03]: It's been effectively seven years that MBS was persona non-grotta here in the US. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet yesterday Trump invites him in here and in this end of the bar, if you go down town, they will put up, I know you've seen this because there are a number of places in L.A. New York does it too for other things.

[SPEAKER_03]: You have the street lights and somebody puts out these little flags and they drape out a change in for different things. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they have a bunch of down at Constitution Avenue. [SPEAKER_03]: So they did that. [SPEAKER_03]: They changed them all. [SPEAKER_03]: So they were Saudi flags and all. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, seriously. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, a whole bunch of pomp and circumstance and kiss in his ass, which pissed off a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that is in fact, uh, exactly one of the questions that that Mary Bruce asked yesterday here. [SPEAKER_03]: Let me, let me play this from the DVR. [SPEAKER_03]: She asked too. [SPEAKER_03]: She asked an F.D. [SPEAKER_03]: in question. [SPEAKER_03]: And she also asked a question. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, two Donald Trump and also to MBS about this here.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's an appropriate Mr. President for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while your president is that a conflict of interest and the U.S. intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist, not a lot of the families are furious that you are here in the Obama world, much America's who you are and the same to you Mr. [SPEAKER_05]: The who you are. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big senior sir. [SPEAKER_05]: You're with him?

[SPEAKER_05]: A big senior sir. [SPEAKER_05]: Fake news. [SPEAKER_05]: ABC fake news. [SPEAKER_05]: One of the worst in the business, but I'll answer your question. [SPEAKER_05]: I have nothing to do with the family business. [SPEAKER_11]: That's a lie. [SPEAKER_03]: We all know he's still loves. [SPEAKER_03]: He still talks to his kids. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't know. [SPEAKER_11]: He doesn't talk. [SPEAKER_11]: It, please. [SPEAKER_11]: It's not like he got rid of his peanut farm.

[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, come on. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: He, he is still way, way, way. [SPEAKER_03]: What is this? [SPEAKER_03]: This is. [SPEAKER_03]: And it takes guts to ask the question that she did. [SPEAKER_03]: Did. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, most journalists, we expect, we, and we should expect, mainstream. [SPEAKER_03]: We should expect anybody. [SPEAKER_03]: I have, this is one of those bellingly cat problems.

[SPEAKER_03]: it would be great if we could require all journalists to actually act with journalists to integrity and if they didn't then they wouldn't have a journalist license except that's not freedom of speech because then you say well who judges who has the integrity and who judges who gets a license right right so I understand the impossibility of that I still think that the news industry as a whole should set some standards

[SPEAKER_03]: because it's like a lot of foods that are out there where regardless of government standards, they have instituted industry standards for themselves so that people trust the product that they are delivering. [SPEAKER_11]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: And I firmly believe that that should be the case for news. [SPEAKER_11]: I agree. [SPEAKER_11]: I also think I'm I'm with Stephanie Miller and others on this.

[SPEAKER_11]: If somebody is asking a question and say the president or somebody else is ignoring it and they move on to the next journalist that journalist should ask that question again.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, Jay Rosen, Professor Jay Rosen, who I've mentioned before, fantastic, journalistic professor has said this for years, that press course, whether it's a presidential press course or a governor or governor of, you know, Illinois or California, New York or whatever, they should act in concert. [SPEAKER_11]: I agree. [SPEAKER_11]: If the question has yet to be answered now, I've seen questions be asked.

[SPEAKER_11]: a number of times if the person answers it the same way, so then at that point it gets stupid. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: But if they've answered the question and then somebody asks the same question again, it's usually a simple question that bothers me. [SPEAKER_11]: But when you have her or the lady on the plane who should have been supported at the time, and I'm in a little bit of a disagreement with somebody I know, saying, well, should they've really done it?

[SPEAKER_11]: Like, yeah, on the plane. [SPEAKER_03]: The quiet piggy? [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they shouldn't stood up for herself anywhere. [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, they're not going to stop the plane in the middle of the air and say get out. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: So let's, let's, you're all there. [SPEAKER_03]: This, this is not your father's station wagon.

[SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: They are not going to pull over to the side of the road and go, you get out. [SPEAKER_11]: No. [SPEAKER_11]: They're not going to do that. [SPEAKER_11]: And the fact that nobody, especially the men in that press room. [SPEAKER_03]: Judges, right? [SPEAKER_11]: Coming to, I mean, I almost understand the women, not coming to her defense because it's a check thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I also understand it because it's it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: We are still shocked by this ten years later because of the fact that there has never been a president of the United States. [SPEAKER_03]: We had some presidents who have been awful. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, awful and crafts, but they've been crafts within a certain, look, LBJ, you know, talking about his ballroom, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: But those were private conversations. [SPEAKER_03]: We didn't hear about them until long after he was dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: LBJ's public persona back then was what we expected a president for the most part to be. [SPEAKER_03]: Nixon, Kennedy, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bushes, Clinton. [SPEAKER_03]: Even when Bill Clinton was having to deal with the whole issue and more than that, Monica Lewinsky had to deal with a whole bunch of crap that she did not have had to deal with. [SPEAKER_11]: And I blame the person that. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I do too.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I also blame a lot of misogyny that's out there. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Because there are still people. [SPEAKER_02]: I look. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not perfect. [SPEAKER_03]: I have joked about it in my life as well. [SPEAKER_03]: But I will also say that when you know better, you do better. [SPEAKER_03]: Another myism and I'm like, you know what?

[SPEAKER_03]: That might have been funny when I was 16. [SPEAKER_03]: But it ain't so funny now. [SPEAKER_11]: No, I mean, and she, God bless her, has grown into an amazing, oh, yeah, monoclonal, a adult kid. [SPEAKER_11]: Not that she wasn't an adult at the time. [SPEAKER_11]: Right, right, right. [SPEAKER_11]: But she has grown into somebody [SPEAKER_11]: Uh, she's amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: On top of her says, exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Even when they were discussing that, Bill Clinton didn't get down in the gutter. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the commentators did. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: We've had a certain standard for what the presidency is. [SPEAKER_03]: We've never had somebody who has that office who treats people, everybody. [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody he dislikes? [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, to say, quiet, piggy.

[SPEAKER_03]: We had that, yes, we played, yes, it's a little bit hard to hear because of the plain noise in the background. [SPEAKER_11]: But it's, I mean, I, I don't know what I would have said back. [SPEAKER_11]: I would have said, what did you call me? [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, my response, what did you call me? [SPEAKER_03]: Right, do you say something like excuse me, sir? [SPEAKER_11]: No, I would have been like, what the F, did you call me?

[SPEAKER_03]: You Fing, POS, but I get that, I get that. [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you know, the whole part of it is, is just... [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure she was shocked. [SPEAKER_03]: I think so, and I think that's part of the reason here. [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see, let me see if I've got it. [SPEAKER_03]: Quiet, quiet, piggy. [SPEAKER_11]: It's like, what, it the, the fact that nobody went and retorted what she was asking him a question. [SPEAKER_03]: She was asking a question.

[SPEAKER_03]: I believe about Epstein, but also, if you notice, Mary Bruce asked question back, show me now. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's given props to Mary Bruce for this. [SPEAKER_03]: And I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I think she deserves for doing that. [SPEAKER_03]: However, yes, she pulled her punches. [SPEAKER_03]: And I say this because if you're in for a penny, you should be in for a pound.

[SPEAKER_03]: You should go all the way when she did her package and you guys can check it out. [SPEAKER_03]: We put the video package in there from good morning, America. [SPEAKER_03]: It's right there in the second round section. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a generally good good video package. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's from Mary. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, it's, I mean, you know, her generally good is exceptional for a lot of people. [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: But she didn't put in the fact that Donald Trump attacked her twice. [SPEAKER_03]: during that press availability. [SPEAKER_11]: That's not I think that comes from higher ups. [SPEAKER_03]: But as I said before, this is one of the reasons why mainstream media executives don't necessarily like me because if I had been her producer, I would have said not only should you put it in, make sure that it's in because everybody needs to see what kind of a pig Donald Trump is.

[SPEAKER_11]: And apparently Disney is doing a Disney resort in Rihard coming up so that could be part of the reason. [SPEAKER_03]: not an excuse. [SPEAKER_11]: No, I know could be a reason, but not an excuse. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Judges right. [SPEAKER_03]: Judges right. [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I get all the reasons. [SPEAKER_03]: But like I said, that's one of the reasons that a lot of corporate media execs don't like me.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm like, I'm like my attitude to the about that is make sure it's in. [SPEAKER_03]: And they go, but you know, someone so might get offended. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why you get paid what hell of a lot more than me. [SPEAKER_03]: My job is to make sure the content is the way it is. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm making damn sure that that is bullet proof. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you have a problem with it, we can go outside. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll beat your ass in.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then it's going to come back a little slowly. [SPEAKER_11]: Hopefully she wanted it in there. [SPEAKER_11]: And her producer might have wanted it in there. [SPEAKER_11]: And then somebody about their pay grade probably said, Nope. [SPEAKER_03]: Although, well, we'll have it. [SPEAKER_11]: It's been out there, so it's not like it's there, but still I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk more about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about that probably Bob too.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, we got that drink of the day coming up, which, you know, honestly, it's a good one. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a mocktail tonight. [SPEAKER_03]: It can be both, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: It's coming up, hang on. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Wednesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: We're having fun talking about books in the break.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we're talking about books Of course we are because you know, it's part of the drink of the day We'll get into it here just a moment if you're gonna miss any part of the show You're doing something you're listening while you're driving you get out You're like crap. [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to hear that part of it. [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to hear the interview with Bob Saska [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you're in a radio affiliate where you go out of there at a range you can't hear them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Jodie, since we were talking about books, and that does kind of loop into a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: It does, a day. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm, I like this subject. [SPEAKER_03]: I like books. [SPEAKER_11]: I love books. [SPEAKER_03]: I did want to write it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_11]: We're going to write it.

[SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, we're going to write it. [SPEAKER_03]: I have a cousin who has been a librarian for umpteen years. [SPEAKER_03]: She always loved books still does. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, I worked, I worked at a library two or three times different times in my life, um, as like a student aid and then other things.

[SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I worked in one that is a, you know, grade school at John Ty Hall, because that was our library. [SPEAKER_03]: Libraries are libraries. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the a lot of the stuff behind it is still the same. [SPEAKER_11]: It's just there's I learned to do a decimal system when I was very young. [SPEAKER_11]: I don't remember it at all, but I learned it when I was like seven. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what my memory these days, but if you plot me in a library, I can find what I need. [SPEAKER_03]: with almost no. [SPEAKER_03]: I could probably remember if I just started looking and libraries these days are great. [SPEAKER_03]: You can you can rent all kinds of things. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you can have them as yeah, and you can have them as meeting spaces. [SPEAKER_03]: You can go get classes there. [SPEAKER_03]: It's all about learning.

[SPEAKER_11]: Now, I was happy that there was a library about a mile from my house, and it was only built maybe 10 years ago. [SPEAKER_11]: Need. [SPEAKER_11]: And so I'm like, yay, a library of being built in 20, whatever, wait, what? [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_11]: I thought they were gearing them down. [SPEAKER_11]: But no, this was the studio city library. [SPEAKER_11]: It's still in. [SPEAKER_11]: My house, and it's great. [SPEAKER_11]: You can vote right there.

[SPEAKER_11]: And it's a small little library, but it's, I'm glad. [SPEAKER_11]: And it's a public library. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's also nice to have a library in your pocket, and I'm not talking about your phone. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there it is. [SPEAKER_03]: That is part of the drink of the day today. [SPEAKER_03]: For those of you who subscribe, y'all are like, I know that. [SPEAKER_03]: I know they're talking about it. [SPEAKER_03]: What is the drink of the day?

[SPEAKER_11]: The drink of the day is a Hemingway special dacory, which looks a lot like the other dacory, but they're not the same. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got a reason for today that we did dacories back to back in two different days. [SPEAKER_11]: There's a reason. [SPEAKER_11]: This is the birthday of the modern ebook, which is the Kindle. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, the Amazon Kindle, which I actually have one of those sitting right over there.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's only have a book books, but I have a lot of books. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have as many books as I did before. [SPEAKER_03]: The apartment fire, I've told you about that in 2008. [SPEAKER_03]: I used to have a ton of them. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a weird thing in my family. [SPEAKER_03]: We tend to collect them. [SPEAKER_11]: Don't talk to Tom Hartman. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: I've talked to Tom about that before. [SPEAKER_11]: He's got How was it?

[SPEAKER_11]: So he looks up and he writes a thousand a day anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and Randy used to have Randy has a ton of books in her house, too. [SPEAKER_03]: When I worked for her, she has a law library that rivals that of some small colleges in her house. [SPEAKER_03]: So, which is also how she kicked the ass of some of these big people who tried to sewer and shut her house. [SPEAKER_11]: It's very smart lady.

[SPEAKER_11]: No, I have, I'm in the middle of reading a book I read when I was a kid called the Disappearance, which was written in 1951. [SPEAKER_11]: Amazing book. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm in the middle. [SPEAKER_11]: So, look. [SPEAKER_11]: It's a really, really good sci-fi book. [SPEAKER_11]: It's a little long-key, but it's really, really good. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm still in the middle of reading that the second time. [SPEAKER_11]: And I've been in the middle of like three different books.

[SPEAKER_11]: Church Nate, Mary Trump's second book, The Testaments, which is a secret book. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a secret book. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that you like physical books more. [SPEAKER_02]: I do. [SPEAKER_03]: But honestly, e-readers are good for a group of things. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I was telling you, 25 years ago, I was the Chief Technology Consult from the Rascar Press Association.

[SPEAKER_03]: At that time, there was 200 in some odd newspapers in the States, and I was the guy. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody would call me for problems with everything from their fax machine to the gigantic six-color German press for the Omaha World Herald, and I literally one day had [SPEAKER_03]: I was driving and on my phone on either line. [SPEAKER_03]: One was about a fax machine and one was about this stupid press in Omaha. [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, so yeah, but we were talking about technology.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like E-Ink, E-Ink is what the technology is that's behind the the Kindle and behind all of those readers. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, it's it is a great technology, but it's not the first one. [SPEAKER_03]: I love that you found this today. [SPEAKER_11]: I love that I found it. [SPEAKER_11]: I was like, what the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: For those of you who don't know, Angela Ruiz Robles, she was a teacher in Spain.

[SPEAKER_11]: And maybe she was an angla. [SPEAKER_03]: It would be angla, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So she was she was a teacher in Spain. [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, she was a Spanish teacher. [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think she was a Spanish teacher. [SPEAKER_11]: Do you know what I mean? [SPEAKER_11]: Well, she was a Spanish teacher. [SPEAKER_11]: Like she was a Spanish teacher. [SPEAKER_03]: Like she was a Spanish teacher. [SPEAKER_03]: But she wasn't necessarily a Spanish teacher.

[SPEAKER_11]: In a Spanish, in a Spanish, in Spain, in Spain. [SPEAKER_03]: It's Banya. [SPEAKER_03]: See? [SPEAKER_11]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_11]: That's stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, she designed the Encyclopedia Mechanica, a mechanical Encyclopedia. [SPEAKER_03]: I love that you got a picture of it in here, Jodie. [SPEAKER_02]: Very cool. [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the back of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: So it is the earliest version of an e-book. [SPEAKER_03]: She designed it and patented it in 1948.

[SPEAKER_03]: But the technology itself wasn't available or heard of build until 1962. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and yes, she still, she built this mechanical book that is basically an e-reader. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a mechanical e-reader, long before the e-ink, which e-ink is a great technology. [SPEAKER_03]: You should look at that.

[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, in celebration of Senyora Ruiz, Robless, and, of course, in celebration of the Kindle, there is no drink that's specifically designed to celebrate literature. [SPEAKER_03]: So we picked the Hemingway special backwards. [SPEAKER_11]: I'll be back the right day, and you can make it a mock-tale.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, Jody is right because yesterday's drink was all alcoholic today's you can make it a mocktail if you want Exactly All right, just get rid of a him who's well, you know, it's but you gotta keep the flavor was so why I We looked I really looked at the the the recipe there's so anyway, what is in a Hemingway special Dachery okay.

[SPEAKER_11]: You need a shaker and some ice a pre-chilled martini glass All right three and a half ounces of light gold rum one to three year old molasses column. [SPEAKER_11]: That's a [SPEAKER_11]: particular flavor of up. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're not quite sure, you go into your local and I may send old here with Dram shop, your local, whatever ADC store, whatever wherever you buy wrong.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they say, you know, what is your flavor profile and tell them you're looking for something that is vanilla and caramel flavored with a hint of almond. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, those are important to understand because if you want to make it sans alcohol, you're going to need to remember the flavor. [SPEAKER_11]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. [SPEAKER_03]: Three and a half ounces, light gold rum. [SPEAKER_11]: Next up.

[SPEAKER_11]: An ounce of pink grapefruit juice, freshly squeezed, and I love grapefruit juice. [SPEAKER_11]: That's great. [SPEAKER_11]: I love that too. [SPEAKER_11]: I love it so much. [SPEAKER_11]: Three quarters of an ounce of looksardo, Martino, the cure again. [SPEAKER_11]: An ounce of lime juice, and a half ounce [SPEAKER_03]: Simple sir right two to one simple sir. [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, and you garnish it with the Maricina cherry or lime wedge wheel Okay, for a mocktail version.

[SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for doing this. [SPEAKER_11]: Look at home You ditch the rum in the liquor and you add two drops of vanilla extract a drop of caramel extract and a drop of almond extract That way you keep the flavor is still there, but you don't have to booze it up [SPEAKER_03]: Can I magic we do that for all of you out there who prefer the mocktails? [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you combine all these things to make a Hemingway special that shake them all?

[SPEAKER_11]: with the ice string it into the martini glass and the garnish it with the martini cherry or the lime wedge wheel. [SPEAKER_11]: There you go. [SPEAKER_11]: You pick excellent. [SPEAKER_11]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Drink up and enjoy and remember to charge your e-reader device if you have one. [SPEAKER_03]: Although, you know, if you're like jouty, you would prefer to actually use the book because if you have an e-reader that is not water resistant and it drops in the pool.

[SPEAKER_11]: It goes kablui whereas a book just goes psh. [SPEAKER_11]: I know a lot of e-readers like Donald [SPEAKER_03]: show what he he he he look if you missed any part of the drink of the day you know what to do go subscribe to the politics bar dot com [SPEAKER_03]: some of the e-readers, by the way, you can actually get the podcast for the politics bar on those e-readers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just saying, I like the fact you can drop a book in the pool and, you know, dried out and it's fine, but you can't get the podcast bar or the public's bar podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's hard to me. [SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking about the e-reader, and then I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: I get a little worked up by this. [SPEAKER_11]: At least I don't feel so stupid right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and then you have to take all the time to dry the damn thing out and then you have to to make sure that it dries out properly and some of them if they use really cheap paper it's just messed up and then you've got to try to compress it again and it's never going to compress to the the way that it was before. [SPEAKER_11]: Never. [SPEAKER_03]: Never. [SPEAKER_03]: See you got. [SPEAKER_03]: Just make sure to not put drop the stuff in the pool that's not supposed to go in the pool.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right just steer clear. [SPEAKER_03]: We don't swim in your toilet. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't pee in my pool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... what are we going to prices uh... i believe actually uh... i think donald actually made a comment about that today donald well what is the word that you don't seem to know we're also making incredible strides to make america affordable again that's a new word that they're using affordability [SPEAKER_05]: This is not a new word. [SPEAKER_11]: OK, like groceries, I mean.

[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, Jody. [SPEAKER_03]: He seems to think that words like groceries and affordability are new. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, because he's never had to deal with either. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been spoiled. [SPEAKER_11]: Super wealthy his entire life. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, born with a silver spoon up is but I believe is and Richard would say other news in the Republicans and disarray section of the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_03]: The new mayor's poll shows Democrats now have a 14 point advantage in the generic ballot that is the biggest advantage in eight years. [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why Democrats is that you keep pushing forward. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And what we're going to talk about this a little bit later tonight too. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Bob gets in here too. [SPEAKER_03]: But there is a reason why we title the news on tap today, time to go on offense.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And especially if those of you have worked on in campaigns, you guys know this. [SPEAKER_03]: now is not the time even though we are heading towards the holidays. [SPEAKER_03]: You can be assertive without being aggressive and we must as Democrats and as the broad left independence, non-front Republicans that support Democratic candidates, this is the time to be assertive and remind Donald. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, you don't even know what affordability is?

[SPEAKER_03]: And they sure as hell don't know what accountability is. [SPEAKER_03]: If they did, do you think that Prince MBS would have been sitting in the White House yesterday? [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_10]: That's just gross. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So look, but this is why we have to press our advantages now and keep pressing. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it is a sprint. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a marathon at sprint pace, but that's what we're going to be doing. [SPEAKER_11]: Carbup kids.

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[SPEAKER_03]: it's Wednesday night we got Bob Cesska coming into the bar and we're having a good time we are in a good mood because honestly we are on offense which for those of you who are not necessarily sports fans there's a reason to learn a little bit about sports it is usually more a lot more fun to be on offense than it is on defense play that one and it's safer oh usually you're doing that heading versus getting hit okay I get that

[SPEAKER_03]: We are glad that you are hitting that radio dial and listening to us from wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_03]: Whether that happens to be, oh, I don't know, maybe you're listening on AM950, Minneapolis Saint Paul or maybe you're listening on Georgia now, radio in Atlanta, maybe you're listening to AMA 20 Chicago WCPT or the detour talking Tennessee or progressive voices radio worldwide wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, uh, speaking of Tennessee, by the way.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, you notice in today's news collage that we have at the top of the news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a little bit of Kamala Harris, which I got a girl. [SPEAKER_03]: I love that. [SPEAKER_03]: She is, you know, some people are like, you should go away. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, yeah, if that. [SPEAKER_03]: She is not going away at all. [SPEAKER_03]: In the election land section today of the news on tap, it's down there a little bit in the fourth round.

[SPEAKER_11]: Do I say one of the Justin's behind her? [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you did. [SPEAKER_03]: You are correct. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I can't remember which one of the justings it is, but I know one of them's there. [SPEAKER_03]: Kamala is she was down campaigning in Tennessee seven for that election.

[SPEAKER_03]: Afton Vayne, she is down by anywhere between 15 and 20 points, but given how bad Republicans are getting their asswaped, like we told you in the last hour, she still could pull it out and that could be another seed in the U.S. House for Democrats. [SPEAKER_03]: So if you happen to be listening on the detour talk and you've got some family up the holler or in the hood in that area in Tennessee 7, you got somebody you know who's there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Make sure they are registered to vote. [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure they get the ass out there. [SPEAKER_03]: I believe early voting is starting anytime. [SPEAKER_03]: So make sure that you follow Commel Harris's lead and have the people that you know in Tennessee 7 of Ultra-Afton Bane. [SPEAKER_03]: That that just makes life a little bit easier for all of us. [SPEAKER_03]: You see it?

[SPEAKER_03]: uh... by the way also in the election land section little bit more on that uh... uh... uh... bit from tennis or from Texas we mentioned yesterday at the court well we got a better story there from the Texas tribute a blocked Texas from using their new congressional jury manager uh... now this morning uh... the Texas a.g. who is a criminal literally is he is a criminal can't pass in yes yes can't packston is a criminal i'm clear

[SPEAKER_03]: They did appeal the ruling to the Supreme Court because they couldn't appeal it to the Fifth Circuit, which is funny. [SPEAKER_11]: I love that that was an order. [SPEAKER_03]: the whole deal with all of this. [SPEAKER_03]: We told you this yesterday and it is it's absolutely hilarious. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a great piece there from vox.com, Ian Millhizer, who I've been got.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've been using Ian's work for years and years and years since I was with Think Progress, I believe. [SPEAKER_03]: So Ian lays it out really, really beautifully as to what happened. [SPEAKER_03]: So basically, [SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump, and the Trump DOJ, they told Texas to redraw their congressional districts to change their racial makeup. [SPEAKER_11]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_11]: That's against the law. [SPEAKER_11]: You're going to put it into Kavanaugh.

[SPEAKER_11]: It's against the law. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: You can change it for partisan reasons, which is still right, but they came right out and said it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like if they had said, well, [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to change it so everybody who is a Washington commander's fan or a 49ers fan who lives in Texas, we're going to put you into these other little small areas and everybody's a cowboy's fan, well we're going to make you the predominant, they if they wanted to figure out a way to organize their voting maps that way, they actually could do that probably because that's just team stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: right that that you're being partisan towards a specific sports team. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, you want to do that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's up to you. [SPEAKER_03]: But no, no, no, no, no, no, what what Trump's folks did is they said, but on a black folks in this area, and put on a white folks over in this area and put all the Latinos over here and, you know, right, right, and the loss says.

[SPEAKER_11]: And that's why the lawsuit against California is going to be thrown out because on our little ballot bill, it said, oh, we're doing this because of Texas, Texas partisan, Jerry Mandarin. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Not great. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't afford to build specifically said partisan, and also it's a state bill. [SPEAKER_03]: The feds don't have any control over.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, um, so that that as we said yesterday, this is reminder for those of you who said, oh, it's too hard and everything sucks, and the Republicans are going to beat us and redistricting and warning them, we're going to lose it. [SPEAKER_03]: You're wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: This is why we fight, this is why we go on offense, especially when we have times like this. [SPEAKER_03]: We go on offense at times like this when we have, when we're leading on a specific subject.

[SPEAKER_03]: And in this subject, we are, that's why Virginia needs to still press forward. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why California still needs to press forward. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why Maryland should still press forward, and yes, it will give us an advantage.

[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean that something might not change right the the date in Texas is December 8 all candidates who are going to be running for federal office must have filed I guess they're initial paperwork by December 8 yes in Texas so that case has to be set so it's the people running for office that have to file the lawsuit [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's it's I think or on their behalf, but the whole thing whatever it is Whatever is going on whether the Supreme Court.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like that. [SPEAKER_03]: It is two weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: It is two weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, two weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: It means the Supreme Court has to decide before December 8th and if they don't decide before December 8th [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they could put it in for could pick it up for the house of the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: But also the whole thing is is if you're going with what they've recently decided and also with what they're looking at potentially at this case down and was it Mississippi, they're going to try to go around it and do the whole partisan dance, which is how we got here in the first place, but they know for well that they can't go, let's put all the black people over there. [SPEAKER_03]: Because they, uh, you don't get to do that.

[SPEAKER_11]: You can't put the black people in one place in the latinos. [SPEAKER_11]: And what's funny is like, you keep doing that, y'all? [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_11]: You're still gonna lose. [SPEAKER_03]: Chuddy's right. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's funny. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys can get go. [SPEAKER_03]: You can read that piece. [SPEAKER_03]: It is in the news on Tap Today, which I am. [SPEAKER_03]: laughing my ass off about that.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's a piece there also from Rick Hasson and Matthew Cook that talks exactly about what Jody was saying about the California, the way that they're redoing the map and how that problem ties into the one it's partisan and not racial. [SPEAKER_11]: It's just partisan. [SPEAKER_03]: It's freaking hilarious. [SPEAKER_11]: And it's legal. [SPEAKER_11]: According to the Supreme Court, I disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling mind. [SPEAKER_03]: I do. [SPEAKER_03]: I do.

[SPEAKER_11]: Completely disagree with it. [SPEAKER_11]: But hey, let's [SPEAKER_03]: If they're going to set the laws that way, hey, I don't know judge you. [SPEAKER_11]: Let's use it. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, bounce around a little bit here. [SPEAKER_03]: I want us to go back to the battle over health care because that is another area where Democrats are winning Republicans have been winning on the subject of health care for 15 freaking years.

[SPEAKER_03]: We know this. [SPEAKER_03]: And Senator Sanders, who I have a lot to any number of times is now pushing Senate Democrats to go big on the health care proposal. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: It is going to be voted exactly. [SPEAKER_11]: I got to say sometimes Bernie's right on some of the big or go home at this point when it comes to health care.

[SPEAKER_03]: If nothing else, it will make the contrast even sharper about how Democrats want to make sure what Sanders is saying is you remember the three things that were the main topics [SPEAKER_03]: Senator Sanders wants one, two, and three. [SPEAKER_03]: He wants all three of those things. [SPEAKER_03]: He wants to make sure that whatever is signed, that Russ Vot can't go in there and vote. [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, can't go in there and screw it up again.

[SPEAKER_03]: He wants to get the ACA subsidies extended and he wants the Medicare and Medicaid money back. [SPEAKER_03]: And that sets a much sharper contrast and says, this is what Democrats want. [SPEAKER_03]: You Republicans, you put up your bill too. [SPEAKER_11]: Want to know he wants more than that, but he's becoming the Ted Kennedy of the Senate right now. [SPEAKER_11]: kind of yeah, which especially when it comes to health care and that kind of stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: I like I, you know, I do think centers, centers of center of war and are actually, I want to say they're good friends, but I think they are, they're fairly friendly and professionally, they're, they're staffed do some good work together. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they have definitely worked off each other to kind of really do some do some nice work that way. [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I dig that.

[SPEAKER_11]: They're, they're, and you know, they both have money and they [SPEAKER_11]: They just want to help the rest of us. [SPEAKER_03]: They both had books. [SPEAKER_03]: They both made the way. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, neither one of them were born rich, neither one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they both earned their money, honestly. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm fine. [SPEAKER_11]: And then you look at Ted Kennedy, except for the whole bridge is incident. [SPEAKER_11]: But after that.

[SPEAKER_11]: Except for Ted, except for Ted, except for Ted, but after that, he was

[SPEAKER_03]: a hell of a senator that really care and he was wealthy as a child well FDR was wealthy but at the early FDR also cared well FDR knew the the the christian thing what to talk about that with john fucos and tomorrow yes absolutely but FDR knew the the christian thing very well which is you know basically those who have should give and take care of those who don't yes so i mean that's the reason my mom could eat was FDR

[SPEAKER_03]: I get it 100% I do want to point out something else that is in that section the next battle over health care from our friend Charles Gabba, who we had in here in the bar here, what about two three months ago, there's a new conservative poll that shows a clear majority of swing district Americans, support preserving the expanded ACA subsidies, one of the numbers. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is a this is a right wing poll.

[SPEAKER_03]: A says a staggering 73 percent of voters are concerned about their health care premiums increasing in 2026 and 70 percent support extending the expanded ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_03]: Not only that, 57 percent majority are more likely to vote for a candidate for Congress in 2026 who votes to preserve the expanded ACA tax credits.

[SPEAKER_03]: support, by the way, is also even higher under Hispanic voters, 66% of Hispanic voters, 69% of women voters who are registered to independence support candidates who want to keep this. [SPEAKER_03]: So if Republicans would like to stunts their losses a little bit and maybe stop the hemorrhaging, all they would have to do is agree to even a one-year extension of the ACA subsidies.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Charles Gabel, who is the guru of the numbers on this type of stuff, Charles is great. [SPEAKER_03]: And he, you know, right there, he's got the numbers. [SPEAKER_03]: So how many Republicans you think will actually pay attention to those numbers, Jodi and actually, I'm going to go with zero. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, zero is zero Republicans. [SPEAKER_03]: I am 100% in agreement with you, Jodi, that I bet zero Republicans are going to agree to extend the ACA subsidies.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, look who just walked in the door here. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the one on top of SESCA. [SPEAKER_03]: Man, I was talking with Jody about the ACA stuff and all of a sudden, and I was just a peer behind me saying, there you go. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because I heard you talking about the fact that there's not going to be any vote on ACA subsidies. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's going to be a vote on it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But just what we go, we've got it in the news on tap today that Charles Gabo, data guru from ACASignups.net, is pointing out that the numbers from a conservative polling agency are like, [SPEAKER_03]: almost 60% over 70% almost 80% of people saying I will vote for a member of Congress who supports keeping the expanded ACA subsidies.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is a right-wing polling group saying that people, including right-wingers, are saying, by God, keep the ACA subsidies and Republicans are going, nah, I don't want to vote for that. [SPEAKER_04]: So do you know for a fact that there's going to be a vote or he's just saying that I I know in the Senate there's going to be do we know if there's going to be in the house? [SPEAKER_03]: No, we don't have tiny jobs. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to put that out.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they've got a vote scheduled for this. [SPEAKER_11]: Not yet. [SPEAKER_11]: No, I didn't do and say it was going to be the first or second weekend to some of you said it's going to be the second weekend to December in the Senate. [SPEAKER_03]: So we, I mean, Thune, we, we, we, we, I, I, I, I will trust, I will trust you on that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's the fact that Thune is gonna leave this on Tiny Johnson and be like dude.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of you You screwed me before. [SPEAKER_03]: Guess what tiny it's on you now boy. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's okay We can talk about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Bob says it is here at the politics bar on a Wednesday night We got to talk about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We got to talk about Yes, I know we talked about it last night.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk more about Donald Trump and the McDonald's franchisees and his [SPEAKER_03]: It's a pop-up and an ice-key-on-tee right, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: More coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: Wednesday and I would show you Bob and me, Sean and you. [SPEAKER_03]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: It is Wednesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys know what that means.

[SPEAKER_03]: The one and only Bob Cesska is here. [SPEAKER_03]: The idea of a Pope Bob, like, whoa. [SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Bob, how you doing, man? [SPEAKER_04]: I'm doing great. [SPEAKER_04]: Other than the fact that I totally disagree with you about John Foon holding a boat on the AC. [SPEAKER_03]: We can we can disagree without being his group.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I think Thune I still think Thune is gonna go through it But I think Thune is pissed at tiny Johnson, so I think Thune's like yeah, hold the vote whatever and then I'm gonna leave this giant smoke and turn right in tiny's lap as I go out of here I'm out for the holidays [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, yeah, did you hear that John Johnson called John food and Peter Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, I look tiny Johnson is like a lot of Republicans focused on Peter's so [SPEAKER_11]: Maybe Peter Teele. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just going with Peter Teele. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, okay, that's that is a more benign version of that. [SPEAKER_03]: I Personally feel that you know Republicans are usually I mean, especially with the Epstein stuff They tend to be more focused on you know other kinds of it's Jonathan really pissed off at Mike Johnson a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Why? [SPEAKER_03]: Because, among other things, John Thun had to sit there for two months and all the journalists kept going, so what's going on? [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on? [SPEAKER_03]: What's going on? [SPEAKER_03]: And he'd be like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Talk to Tiny. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, because of the shutdown. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Because Tiny Johnson kept stiffen him on it and being like, well, I'm here.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you go, yeah, but you sent all your people home. [SPEAKER_03]: Thun was, Thun was trying Thun like a lot of senators. [SPEAKER_03]: still tries to get some things done. [SPEAKER_03]: They still have this weird belief that that even between people who are, you know, ax murderers and their victims, there can be some kind of comedy, whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: That's, I think it's almost a necessary thing these days to be in the Senate, whatever.

[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, they call the Senate the cooling saucer of Congress. [UNKNOWN]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: sometimes maybe frozen brain instead of just cool. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but the the the the the whole thing is is that the one is one of those people and so students like give me something to work with and tiny's like yeah bite me. [SPEAKER_11]: Well, Johnson wanted him to put amendments in it and then Chuck Schumer just let's party walk them on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Schumer was when when when Schumer put the Epstein bill in, he did it in what's called demon pass. [SPEAKER_03]: I know you guys know what demon passes. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if everybody around the room does. [SPEAKER_03]: Demon pass means. [SPEAKER_03]: So before the bill officially got to the Senate and yes, there's an official procedure.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it passed the house and has to be written up and printed up and yada yada and putting this thing and go through this box and yada and walked all the way across the capital and whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: And what Chuck Schumer did yesterday afternoon was go, we all know what's going to go through the machine. [SPEAKER_03]: Damn things going to get over here sometime tonight. [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's just preemptively vote on it now.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll deem it to be passed. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll say that it's gonna be passed when it gets here. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll say what we're gonna do when it gets here. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just asking for unanimous consent, which of course, since nobody objected, he got unanimous consent, which means that as soon as the bill officially landed in the Senate, poof everything activated automatically, ran through the Senate's go to that procedure. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what deem and pass is for those of you who are like, what the hell does deem and pass? [SPEAKER_03]: It's just an automatic set of. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you know, you set it up in your bank account or with your electric company or whatever. [SPEAKER_03]: When the bill comes due on the 15th, they hit the bill. [SPEAKER_03]: It's already tied your bank account. [SPEAKER_03]: Your deem it paid. [SPEAKER_11]: I don't want to pay that because it scares me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: Some people know. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of people do. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what deem and pass is. [SPEAKER_03]: Thun was hanging out with Trump and MBS. [SPEAKER_03]: Thun could have been over in the Capitol. [SPEAKER_03]: No, he was busy over here. [SPEAKER_11]: He was busy with the murderers and rapists. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Judges, right.

[SPEAKER_11]: Donald isn't educated rapist. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm just going to... [SPEAKER_03]: Joe, he's not wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I think Joe, he's right. [SPEAKER_03]: Donald is been adjudicated as a sexual assault. [SPEAKER_03]: He's he has been adjudicated that way. [SPEAKER_03]: So, but, um, so soon could have been there if he wanted to. [SPEAKER_03]: Bob, he could have. [SPEAKER_03]: He just went.

[SPEAKER_03]: and he did it in part because he's pissed at tiny johnson because he's like dude you screwed me and it's not the first time johnson is screwed him a number of times and part of his because johnson can't control i mean look we all know republicans have a tiny johnson and they can't control their caucus we've said this number of times no matter how funny it sounds is also true and thunus just like dude look get control your people for god's sake

[SPEAKER_03]: And Johnson's like, well, he can't. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, if you're wondering if Thun is pissed at Johnson, the answer is yes. [SPEAKER_04]: So when did Thun say that there was going to be a vote? [SPEAKER_04]: Was this during the shutdown? [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_11]: I believe he said it was like mid. [SPEAKER_11]: The first or second week in December. [SPEAKER_03]: So the second week in December. [SPEAKER_11]: He'd have a vote on the ACA.

[SPEAKER_03]: By the end of the second week in December, he said he would hold a vote. [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't guarantee that it would pass. [SPEAKER_03]: But that he would hold a vote on the ACA plans. [SPEAKER_03]: which is why Bernie is now saying the Democrats should say this is our plan and the Republicans will say well their plan is Donald Trump's plan, which is here's $2,000 a year. [SPEAKER_03]: Go find insurance for your family. [SPEAKER_03]: You're right.

[SPEAKER_04]: I just, I don't know that there's going to be a vote on the ACA subsidies because I think the mission now is to shoehorn the Trump care thing into the discourse and to- Well that is, that is, as I understand it, that is Trump cares, the $2,000 is Trump care.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I think it's what they want it isn't the $2,000 that's the reimbursement for the that's the payment from the tariffs That's the tariff No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

[SPEAKER_04]: It's such a garbage proposal. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And it's the most nonsensical thing I've ever heard in my life. [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost, it's the second most nonsensical thing you've heard in your life, because you did hear Donald Trump at the McDonald's Franchee, if it's just, oh, you're right here to check that out. [SPEAKER_04]: He's a good topic.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think your policy goes that's just a ridiculous complication added to the process in order to say that there is something called Trump care. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: Everything for that guy is branding and so what he wants to do is tear something down that actually functions and replace it with something that's completely a non starter.

[SPEAKER_04]: So he can call it Trump care right because he hates that the other thing is called Obamacare even though that's not the actual name of it And I assure you that Donald Trump has no idea what the actual name of the He doesn't he doesn't even know oh my god did you did you hear this this was this was he is He was at some investment forum today. [SPEAKER_03]: He hadn't even known word affordability.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not kidding you here We play this off the DVR [SPEAKER_05]: We're also making incredible strides to make America affordable again. [SPEAKER_05]: That's a new word that they're using, affordability they talk of. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a new word, apparently. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me.

[SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_04]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_04]: No, it's me.

[SPEAKER_11]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word. [SPEAKER_11]: No, it's me. [SPEAKER_11]: I've never heard that word, so I guess it is a new word [SPEAKER_04]: And he said he also said today that if he ran against the ticket of George Washington in Abraham Lincoln that he would beat them by a lot he said he said versions of that before which is like

[SPEAKER_03]: that which which goes back to that whole McDonald's thing because I know Jody said you guys were having fun with it on your show yesterday which I have not listened to that podcast yet because I haven't had time but you showed you absolutely should listen to the Bobcisco show podcast I'm very behind on that one and you should listen to track politics which I've listened to that one that's good but yeah I mean what the what the hell is up with the slurping sound

[SPEAKER_04]: It's Donald trying to be cute and he's trying to compensate for the fact that his brain has turned to cottage cheese and just doesn't know what to say. [SPEAKER_04]: He's you know, he's always done this nonsense where he's making sound effects. [SPEAKER_04]: He used to be the ping-bong, ping-bong thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: And now he's doing gun Stephanie's show this morning on Stephanie Miller show.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was saying he's trying to be Michael Winslow from police academy. [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, we're talking about, uh, we're talking to McDonald's about how McDonald's executives specifically. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, franchise, he's an executive. [SPEAKER_04]: We bombed a ran and there was a big, the, the heaviest bomb in the world. [SPEAKER_04]: And it just, he was doing the dive bombing sounds and it was like, boom. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, pup, pup, pup. [SPEAKER_04]: All of that nonsense.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but it was one of those, you know, we talk about that meme all the time, where it's like when Donald's talking nonsense, the response is, but, but sir, this is a McDonald's drive for him. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, this is literally, literally. [SPEAKER_04]: They're all answering that meme. [SPEAKER_04]: where he's talking about the bombing Iran and it's like, sir, this is a McDonald's drive through. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm talking to McDonald's now.

[SPEAKER_04]: Why are you mentioning this? [SPEAKER_04]: What is the pertinent of talking about how we bombed Iran to a group of McDonald's executives? [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Like we're Stephanie Miller, we're saying last week, yeah, he's talking about getting magnets wet. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he is, he is so far off. [SPEAKER_03]: We were mentioned here at the bar last night.

[SPEAKER_03]: We had Richard Chu in from WCPT, and we were talking about the fact that he is, [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody should, I'm surprised it Donald's handlers. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, when Joe was getting a little bit older, when Joe Biden was having, you know, I mean, you know, last few years, especially if he was tired, they would try to schedule certain events, big public events for like middle of the day.

[SPEAKER_11]: They would try not to overload his vans too much because he doesn't get harder to deal with because he's an older gentleman now because he didn't have a later in the day. [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, it's a thing and he's the president. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: We all get that. [SPEAKER_02]: But you would think that Donald's people would do the same thing because they would like him. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I think you're right on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they like him at all. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, and he's not going to stand for it anyway exactly to catch him in I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: He thinks he thinks he's perfectly fine. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, magnified fortune. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: I almost forgot about magnified fortune. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and bear mine.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I've been watching Donald every single one of his public speeches for years now, right, which is why I can no longer sleep. [SPEAKER_04]: Why I wait, you know, wake up at three o'clock in the morning, sitting bolt up right, oh my God, [SPEAKER_04]: because I've seen all these things. [SPEAKER_04]: I watched all the COVID-19 press conferences and he's been doing these short circuits where not only is he an irredeemable weirdo who is so self-deluded, it's beyond pathology.

[SPEAKER_04]: but he also says the wrong things all the time and then pretends as though he said it the correct way. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he does his own version of Erkel. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I like the story. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's social media platform, which he's called Truth Social. [SPEAKER_04]: He referred to it as Truth Central. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, and I love, I love that you continue to call it that because it's truth Central.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because I referred to his running mate as JP JD Mandel. [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: which look, I mean, honestly, J.D. [SPEAKER_03]: has changed his name so many times. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure Vance doesn't even necessarily ring his head. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, I'll go with that. [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. [SPEAKER_03]: What I know. [SPEAKER_04]: The part of the problem is that he says things like that and he's obviously declining.

[SPEAKER_04]: So these short circuits, these glitches are getting worse and worse and worse as time goes on. [SPEAKER_04]: Right, but then the people around him are all going, well, that was wonderful, Mr. Trump. [SPEAKER_04]: But just Mr. President, what a great job you did. [SPEAKER_04]: That was the most tremendous, greatest speech you've ever given in your entire life. [SPEAKER_04]: The, the polishes are short, which is amazing.

[SPEAKER_04]: It is the, it is the, it is the Sarah, Sarah failing to the same thing, too. [SPEAKER_04]: They were telling her that, oh, my God, Sarah, your convention speech was just incredible. [SPEAKER_04]: And so she got a gigantic head about her.

[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I guess I can say whatever I want now and I miss her because she made more sense than Donald Yeah, but she believed the sick of fans are rather rather than understanding that these are a lot of people who want access to her and have no real interest in telling her the truth straight up

[SPEAKER_03]: it's it's it's why you have people around you who you can trust and tell you like Chris the boy exactly right look look I I like Chris he's a great producer but and yes he tells Stephanie things sometimes she doesn't necessarily like that's he's caught her the seaworth [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, but look I didn't do that. [SPEAKER_11]: I only worked with her for two years. [SPEAKER_11]: So I couldn't go there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I worked with her for a year and I did not I did not call her a seward. [SPEAKER_11]: Could it gotten there? [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_11]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_04]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_04]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_04]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that. [SPEAKER_03]: I could see that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, if you learned how to work with somebody, even if they are supposedly a little bit difficult to work with, if you learn how to work with them and you know. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, I, I still remember the conversation. [SPEAKER_03]: I got told you guys here in the bar before they had with Jesse Waters at the 2016 on. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that guy. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, agreed on that one. [SPEAKER_03]: But he was shocked.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, well, you know, I worked with Randy and I've worked with Laura. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really like to work with Keith Auburn because Auburn is also well known for being difficult to work with. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, hell, I'd love to have. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, oh, my God. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, it's not that hard. [SPEAKER_03]: But obviously, I mean, you know, Jesse Waters is [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I understand that he was freaked out.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's a horrible garbage person. [SPEAKER_03]: He's a horrible garbage person. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he is. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, we got one more round. [SPEAKER_03]: Bob's going to hang out with us for the last call. [SPEAKER_03]: So, look, here we go. [SPEAKER_03]: It's Jody Hamilton and me Sean Smith Pierce. [SPEAKER_03]: And the one and only Bob says, how you know what you want to Wednesday night here at the politics bars. [SPEAKER_03]: Fresh and you drink up.

[SPEAKER_03]: Come back for the last call. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Last call on a Wednesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody who is hanging out with us from everywhere on all of our great radio affiliates and all of you are hanging out on the podcast as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to everybody who gets out to us on all that social media platforms.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can find him on trick politics and you can find him on all your favorite social media as it's some variant of Bob Sesska. [SPEAKER_03]: Trust me, if you type in Bob Sesska on any of them, you will find him there. [SPEAKER_03]: And he spoke Bob. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: He exactly, he, you know, around here he happens to be the idea of a Pope Bob, like, whoa. [SPEAKER_11]: Still one of my favorite Christmas clips.

[SPEAKER_11]: Like, whoa, that's Rachel Maddo, right? [SPEAKER_04]: When I first heard, I said, like, whoa.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's now or or, or, you know, M snow. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Does that still mean Microsoft is somehow involved in the next world? [SPEAKER_03]: Sounds like it, right? [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's supposed to be, I believe, what does it represent? [SPEAKER_03]: What is it? [SPEAKER_03]: My source.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, is the MS and then it's news opinion world, it's taken me a little bit to actually remember that it takes some spoons to remember that simply because of the fact that that's done. [SPEAKER_03]: they were desperate to try to find an acronym. [SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like some of those bills that they occasionally put through Congress where they, you know, the acronym for the bill is like, hey, that makes sense. [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, well, that's really cool.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then you actually look at all the words that make it up and you're like, no one on earth speaks that way. [SPEAKER_03]: No one. [SPEAKER_11]: No, MS now is, I'm with you, Bob, on it's like, is it MS? [SPEAKER_11]: Is Microsoft still involved? [SPEAKER_11]: Because that's how it started. [SPEAKER_11]: MS NBC was started with MSN. [SPEAKER_03]: It's MS now. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, wait, wait, wait. [SPEAKER_03]: Now. [SPEAKER_03]: Not yesterday.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, it's, it's, it's game now. [SPEAKER_03]: We are making fun of their name, and that's okay. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm sorry, but it's just us. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the branding. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting used to it, but whatever. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, they learn their lesson from HBO Max. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: We're turning to be there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, on the fact that they're letting CNBC is now in the same company, a version that MS now is that a lot of the old channels that were owned previously by NBC universal. [SPEAKER_11]: So it's a podcast thing. [SPEAKER_11]: Is that what it is?

[SPEAKER_03]: they split off a number of these channels for multiple reasons, one of which is the fact that for several years now in the the media industry people have been saying linear television is dead, which is funny because actually looking at the statistics linear television is somewhat coming back now.

[SPEAKER_03]: part because all of the streaming services are so expensive and if you want to pay for all the streaming services you're now almost better off to have one of like the the cable or YouTube TV or something. [SPEAKER_11]: Guys, becoming a thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, they're like, I've got this idea. [SPEAKER_03]: What's your idea? [SPEAKER_03]: I want to have this round thing that you can put on a vehicle and you can use to take you places.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes So what should we call it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't know the wheel Sounds like you're reinventing the wheel which is what they're doing so yeah [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, but yeah, so CNBC is part of that separate company and they let CNBC keep the calls keep CNBC as they're their name and keep using the peacock to they could have done it for MSNBC part of the reason they split it off was the the you know linear television is dead and part of it was the I'm afraid of Donald Trump

[SPEAKER_03]: And so they went, well, here's the opinion station and it's over here and it's a completely different it's owned by a whole different company even though our stock is completely tied together, but it's owned by a whole different company and we have nothing to do with it. [SPEAKER_03]: really stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, very. [SPEAKER_03]: Especially, especially done when you look so in the entertainment section today, the news on tap.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you guys look down on that, CNN, they actually stood up to Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: He had this meritless suit against CNN, absolutely stupid and pointless. [SPEAKER_03]: Farrell [SPEAKER_03]: The suit was from 22 and objected to CNN's use of the phrase, the big lie in reference to Trump's lies about the 2020 election being stolen, which it wasn't. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet, finally a federal Pails Court said, this is stupid, and they threw the case out.

[SPEAKER_03]: And this shows that when media organizations show what, look, we all saw Mary Bruce of ABC. [SPEAKER_03]: Stand up to Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: In the oval, with MBS, MBS, a world leader who actually has killed people, killed somebody who was a legal American resident. [SPEAKER_03]: And she's still, she has not only Donald, but she has MBS that question.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And she's getting lots of kudos because when you stand up to a bully, and kick them in the ass, they backed down. [SPEAKER_03]: She knows even though Donald was like, well, your news organization is fake and [SPEAKER_04]: Bob? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, where do I begin? [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the assault on the press just in the last 48 hours has been utterly outrageous. [SPEAKER_04]: Right.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, between the quiet piggy and everything you were just talking about. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, it's odd, but he's been he's been doing this for a longest time. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't or see how many of these people don't understand. [SPEAKER_03]: If you stand up to him and you punch back, it works. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because here's the thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Donald needs to press more than the press needs Donald. [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely.

[SPEAKER_04]: Bob is right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, because as much as he's constantly pointing his stubby fingers at them and insulting them, [SPEAKER_04]: and talking about how they're terrible persons and how what's stupid questions they ask. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: He loves the press. [SPEAKER_04]: He loves holding cord in front of the press. [SPEAKER_04]: He does. [SPEAKER_04]: Every chance he gets.

[SPEAKER_04]: He's having a front of TV cameras and microphones because he can't not be in front of cameras or microphones. [SPEAKER_04]: What's the old thing in Washington D.C. [SPEAKER_04]: The most dangerous place in all of Washington D.C. is between Donald Trump and our TV camera. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.

[SPEAKER_04]: You are a hundred percent [SPEAKER_04]: I think the press needs to start and by press most often I'm talking about cable news and right some of the TV news media They need to bear that in mind that Donald deeds them more than Absolutely, it needs them more than they need Donald right right and and so in that regard They should be a little bit more brave in terms of holding him accountable and Oh, we're going to always call a piggy

[SPEAKER_02]: on the plane right my first reaction had I been that person you called me what oh yeah exactly what are they going to do stop the plane at 30,000 feet you know like it alluded to and staying and go get out no [SPEAKER_11]: I mean, I would have been not that nice about it, by the way. [SPEAKER_11]: I was saying, you call me, effing what? [SPEAKER_11]: You mother f- I mean, I would have been that person. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of those, a lot of leaps in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I understand. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah, I would have been fine on Bob's show, but not on our show. [SPEAKER_04]: I want to have that moment of satisfaction. [SPEAKER_04]: When someone tells Donald what he needs to hear. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe not what he needs to hear, but what he should hear. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, finally someone to tell him to f off.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that I think we're all looking forward to that moment because we haven't quite seen it yet This comment. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it is way past time for that to happen [SPEAKER_04]: Because I want a bully to finally receive his come up in. [SPEAKER_04]: So that's one of the reasons why when he had to sit in court every day up in the New York City, how wonderful that was because he was finally being called on his BS. [SPEAKER_04]: He was finally being called on his crown.

[SPEAKER_03]: When he looked over at the jury, whatever, the judge was like, hey, [SPEAKER_03]: Eyes up here. [SPEAKER_03]: Eyes up here. [SPEAKER_11]: Shut up. [SPEAKER_11]: You sit down. [SPEAKER_11]: Stop tying us a falling asleep by the way. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: That was great. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know, I wish we actually would have had video for that because that would have been, you know, we'd see some pictures.

[SPEAKER_03]: Quick, we had, we had this quick glimpses. [SPEAKER_03]: But it would have been nice to have the, the judge go. [SPEAKER_04]: But he's a wimp, and he's a baby, and he's free. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why he's such a bully, because he's overcompetiting for all those things, masking over it. [SPEAKER_04]: But I just, I want to see someone lay into him, to his face and see what he does. [SPEAKER_04]: See how badly he crumbles.

[SPEAKER_04]: I hope it's a woman. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, God, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: God, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: And if he's... [SPEAKER_03]: I would prefer it to be a black woman. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, for the sake of democracy, it needs to happen at some point.

[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_04]: Because I can tell you this, all the organizations and people who have genuflected before him in the past year, history is going to [SPEAKER_04]: like drop a giant animal on their heads and they're going to regret acquiescing to this guy. [SPEAKER_04]: That's something else that needs to happen. [SPEAKER_04]: They need to be utterly shamed because they raced to enable him and we have all been damaged because of it.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's about damn time and I hope it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I hope I do. [SPEAKER_03]: I am glad in the sense though to some degree that MS now is split off. [SPEAKER_03]: that independent media is starting to have more of a moment, really, that people are saying, look, I may not trust channel X or new source Y, I may be trust, you know, A journalist or two from their A producer or two from there, whatever, but they're like, God, I really wish that I had a single source.

[SPEAKER_03]: And my brain is like, oh, you mean like a newspaper? [SPEAKER_03]: or you know like the like the news on tap which you can sign up for free at the politics bar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: But we we do that exact same thing as we we pick out all the good stuff from all the garbage and we put it in one place for you guys. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what people want, but people in order to get that are having to go to independent media.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're having to come and hang out with us, which they don't have to, but they like to come and choose and hang out with us here at Politics Bar. [SPEAKER_03]: They hang out with you at the Bob Cesska show. [SPEAKER_03]: They hang out at Stephanie Miller's place, they hang out with Tom Hartman, you know, they hang out with Daily Beans. [SPEAKER_03]: They, I mean, they hang out with all of the people that we know. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll see.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: To get different things that they're not getting from mainstream. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, you guys, it's not that the mainstream doesn't have the ability. [SPEAKER_03]: They could have been doing this. [SPEAKER_03]: They just chose not to. [SPEAKER_11]: Bob, when you said Jenny Fleck, I just re-looked at the Vatican rag lyrics from Tom Lairer. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_11]: Oh my god, first get down on your knees, fiddle with your rosaries.

[SPEAKER_11]: By your head and great respect and Jenny Fleck, Jenny Fleck. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because, you know, I prefer that word than because I think we've overused then the knee from the knee. [SPEAKER_04]: I know. [SPEAKER_11]: Jenny, if like, does it better work? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: And it means the same thing. [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_04]: It's not that overused game of Thrones reference. [SPEAKER_04]: So I go with that one.

[SPEAKER_11]: And by the way, I'm a huge Tumblr fan. [SPEAKER_03]: You like to be creative.

[SPEAKER_03]: that's that's okay you both are like exactly exact speaking of which uh by the way uh what is on track politics coming up what is the next episode of track politics okay with the most recent episode that went up Sunday was he and Mary talking about the original series episode of Taste of Armageddon yes I said good one there's even a clip by the way uh you put it out in different social media as a clip of you and Mary because you're doing [SPEAKER_10]: trying.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, look, like we only got so many hands if we were octopuses, it actually would be better. [SPEAKER_11]: Octopi. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, true. [SPEAKER_04]: And next week we're talking about the original series episode a journey to Babel. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I love that one. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: People shouldn't subscribe to track Paul to expand cast wherever you can. [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, they should always go and subscribe to everything Bob Ceska.

[SPEAKER_03]: Bob Ceska.com. [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure to go get your jet packs made of beef or maybe your spicy Jody shirts. [SPEAKER_03]: Bob, we always love having you here, man. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you next [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, we'll see you then. [SPEAKER_03]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Folks tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got John Fughal saying back in the bar and We had some more guests coming up here before Thanksgiving and we got that Thanksgiving show coming up too So well look go home. [SPEAKER_03]: Be safe. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't do anything. [SPEAKER_03]: We wouldn't do and don't do some of the things we would do You can get yourself some sleep and have some fun. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you tomorrow night here at the politics ball