Flaccid Dicktatorship February 4, 2026

[SPEAKER_06]: It's political. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_00]: Wherever you are, the politics bar. [SPEAKER_06]: Shocksmith Pearson, Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Jodie, did you really care? [SPEAKER_02]: I really do, don't you? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, actually, I do as well. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I care about people. [SPEAKER_02]: I care about good people. [SPEAKER_02]: I do not actually care about the Melania movie. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's. [SPEAKER_08]: I want to watch it, but I don't want to get any credit. [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's going to end up being in cold class. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, David.

[SPEAKER_02]: brother David sent us a review for it so we we will talk about that later today we will talk about the ice monsters and the supposed step down that yeah don't know if you can really call this step down going on in manyapolis we will talk about uh Donald Trump and the right finally being honest about something that they want to steal elections we got all that and more oh [SPEAKER_02]: tonight while we are here in the bar. [SPEAKER_02]: I've got it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually, I can view it anytime on Apple TV, but the new muppet show. [SPEAKER_02]: They're there. [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's a one off. [SPEAKER_02]: They're only doing one episode right now, but they may do more later. [SPEAKER_02]: They say, [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I just watching Seth Rogan talk to Fazi saying I've always wanted to do this. [SPEAKER_08]: This has been a dream of mine and Fazi looks at him goes, he might need better dreams.

[SPEAKER_02]: Fazi is correct, just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about all of those and more. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, thank you for everybody joining us coming into the bar from wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_02]: Whether you are joining us from our friends down in Atlanta on Georgia now, radio or maybe you are listening in Chicago on WCPT AMA 20.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all there at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Drink the day today. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I like this one. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fan of it. [SPEAKER_02]: I want to say [SPEAKER_02]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: I like puns. [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. [SPEAKER_02]: You guys know my dad jokes are on point. [SPEAKER_08]: You're punny. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Shows are nightly, depending on when you listen.

[SPEAKER_08]: Don't forget to tip your service. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, just don't push them too hard. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't tip over. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not mean to make you do as a bit take there. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry about that. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, thank you guys for coming in, hanging out with us. [SPEAKER_02]: I am in a pretty decent mood because while look, these days it is hard when you look at the news sometimes.

[SPEAKER_02]: You look at all the stuff and you're like, there's so much of this crap that should not be happening. [SPEAKER_02]: and yet and yet. [SPEAKER_02]: We're doing a whole lot to stand up and fight the monsters. [SPEAKER_02]: Good people across the country, even from other countries are helping out. [SPEAKER_02]: And a court Bob Sasker, by the way, going to help us out a little bit later, he'll be in the little bit later down the road here.

[SPEAKER_02]: Whenever I won't say that he's biking in, because we know he's not biking in with the snow. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a chilly and snowy where you are.

[SPEAKER_08]: But it's been [SPEAKER_02]: you got to find the positives you got it you got to look for the silver linings for example yesterday and today temperature was around 35ish even 40 yesterday's there no melting yeah actually my my my pup Christopher loves it because he's like hey cool I don't have to slide everywhere when I have to pee you know when your dog is important you go from four legs to three and you [SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Any kind of ice, unless you have skates and you know how to do it, you know, well, yeah, but you know, if you're going to go up a land on them and I'm sorry, I was just taking that little too far there, but you know that we are going to see more skates coming up, Olympics is coming up. [SPEAKER_02]: I've always loved the Olympics in my professional broadcasting career. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, I did the, uh, the Olympics, the 96 Olympics. [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, summer, winter summer.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was just, there's nights out. [SPEAKER_02]: It was the sports in LA. [SPEAKER_02]: So it was, it was a lot of fun. [SPEAKER_02]: Or no Atlanta, pardon me, not tonight. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I was 84. [SPEAKER_08]: I was. [SPEAKER_02]: I know you folks in Atlanta like, hey, hey, hey, I'm like, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking of the next one, which is in LA. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: 90, uh, 90, four, 95, whatever the LA was, 94.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was, that was the Olympics of those, that's one of those, that's one of those, it was in the Atlanta. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, anyway, don't need to be talking about me, I got all kinds of stuff in my past. [SPEAKER_02]: Some of it, you don't want to know, and some of it, you should not, that'll address me.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, everybody, everybody's got things, but in today's news on tab, I'm kind of glad that the Republicans are finally being honest about the fact that they want to steal elections, which, you know, that's, that's a change of pace for Republicans being honest. [SPEAKER_02]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: We have some former friends who are Republicans, Joe Walsh. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, he's not a Republican anymore. [SPEAKER_08]: These are former Republicans. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So these are either former Republicans or like Michael Steele. [SPEAKER_02]: For some reason, he still has not changed his registration. [SPEAKER_08]: I think he's hopeful. [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Steele is probably one of the most positive, internally positive people that you will meet. [SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, dude, that's never going to happen. [SPEAKER_02]: It's never going to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: But... [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's hoping that it doesn't go the way of the wigs and well, and I think now he knows that that the party itself is is hopeless, but he's just hoping that the idiots who are driving it right now will completely totally crash it and then folks like him can peel that name off of whatever wreckage there is and then stick it on a more sane party and take it back. [SPEAKER_08]: I hope he lives long enough to see that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Damn skipping hell yeah, I would love that. [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like that would be fantastic. [SPEAKER_08]: I would love it too We need a good opposition party that just wants to do the same things just more slowly But we need a good sane minority opposition party. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think they would be great for that Now I know there are those of you in the bar who are like, yeah, yeah, well Democrats suck too [SPEAKER_02]: What do we say here, you know, credit we're due and criticism to right today. [SPEAKER_02]: I was actually fairly well cheered by the fact that came Jeffrey Scott out there. [SPEAKER_02]: He took longer.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just hit it real quick, but our friend Lisa Deschard and over at PBS NewsHour, she was at the at the conference. [SPEAKER_02]: She listed it. [SPEAKER_02]: She said he made it relatively simple. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: and named egg, judicial warrants, yes, no masks and no ice detention or deportation of American citizens. [SPEAKER_02]: This is reminiscent of remember last fall.

[SPEAKER_02]: We had the three demands and Democrats did pretty well with the shutdown last time. [SPEAKER_02]: Republicans in Congress are still being obstrepresent. [SPEAKER_02]: No, we're not going to win. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do anything you want. [SPEAKER_02]: So once again, Democrats are dragging, I was, oh, we got four demands this time. [SPEAKER_02]: rustic to these.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well and the differences is there are no snap benefits at risk there are no important things to everyday life. [SPEAKER_08]: This is just DHS. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I mean obviously Coast Guard is important and unfortunately right now it's under DHS. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously TSA is important but look the long in the short if it is. [SPEAKER_02]: These are not crazy things.

[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at there are a number of polls out there, including we have a Harvard Harris poll, I believe, that is in the news on tap. [SPEAKER_02]: And I can't remember where I stuck that. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's in the miscellaneous, but important. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, section happens to be in the third round today. [SPEAKER_02]: The majority of Americans say that Trump is doing worse than Biden, and they're really not a fan of the way that they're dealing with.

[SPEAKER_02]: the attempted immigration stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: We all know it's not really immigration at this point. [SPEAKER_02]: The way they're doing it, it's not. [SPEAKER_02]: But the way that they're handling themselves, DHS, ICPB. [SPEAKER_02]: overwhelmingly Americans depending on which question you ask or which poll you look at you're looking at sixty sixty five seventy five eighty percent depending on the polls.

[SPEAKER_02]: When you got that much you got people who voted for Donald Trump who are like this is not what I voted for I am not in favor of this. [SPEAKER_02]: I did not ask for you to take Luis down the street has been here for forty-three can years.

[SPEAKER_02]: Makes a great freaking taco and you take him you close his restaurant you end up you know taking half his employees and putting the others out of work [SPEAKER_08]: And most of them, as we have discovered, I can speak, are not criminals, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Overwhelmingly, they are not 90% or not criminals. [SPEAKER_02]: And I can't remember, I think we had that. [SPEAKER_02]: One of the news on taps last week, maybe I think.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it was like seven or eight percent might have a criminal record. [SPEAKER_08]: And then that's like, what kind of criminal record are we talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Most of them are like minor stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a big deal at all. [SPEAKER_02]: It's but yeah, this is this is what we're dealing with and people are not And yet, and yet, and yet.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, all of that happens to be, well, we'll deal with that a little bit later, because all of that is in the second round of the ice versus America. [SPEAKER_02]: But the first round, the rights war and democracy, is dealing with the fact that Republicans are finally being honest about the fact that they want to nationalize elections under the Republican Party. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, you can nationalize elections.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can have elections that have one set of rules, and one group that controls everything, centralized nationally. [SPEAKER_02]: but not under a specific party. [SPEAKER_02]: No, but Trump has made it very clear and some of the Republicans who've been pushing with him pushing this crap ass save act, which the mainstream keeps going, well, we're not really gonna say it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's called the Save Act and it doesn't save anything. [SPEAKER_02]: It makes everything worse.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: What they want to do is they want to nationalize elections under the Republican Party. [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a nationalized election. [SPEAKER_08]: No, that's a partisan election. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's no longer democracy at that point.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that is the biggest subject I think that's on my mind today and I think the biggest subject I hope everybody here in the bar wants to you know get a little bit more informed about obviously We're going to talk about the ice monsters and the moppets which is good But Trump did double down on his calls to nationalize the election which Here, let me let me let me play this clip. [SPEAKER_02]: This is Caitlin Collins.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to question yesterday [SPEAKER_08]: It's actually, did you mean you said that you should nationalize elections and which 15 states are you talking about? [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see elections be honest, and if a state can't run an election, I think the people behind me should do something about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, if you think about it, a state is an agent for the federal government and elections.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why the federal government doesn't do them anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: The states are not agents of the federal government. [SPEAKER_02]: the guy who is in charge of the executive branch should actually understand that one of the most important features of the way that we have the United States government is that every state has its own every state and every territory has its own sovereignty, congratulations folks.

[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times those states can look at the federal government and go, [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he thinks he thinks all the states and all territories. [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's a vassal to him. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's how he treats people. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it did Caitlin smile when she asked him the question. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man. [SPEAKER_02]: He was so, so such a misogynist. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look, we know he's a misogynist douchebag.

[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, [SPEAKER_02]: more and more the more people dig into those millions of pages from the Trump Epstein files. [SPEAKER_02]: The more they're going really, really? [SPEAKER_02]: I guess his name is the name that is mentioned the single most times. [SPEAKER_08]: 58,000 times? [SPEAKER_08]: Something like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Or 38,000 and 5200. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like five figures worth of times that his own name is in those files. [SPEAKER_08]: More than Jeffrey Epstein's name. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm, more than Gillayne's now, which tends to make you think that he and Jeffrey were really, really tight and when you're that tight You know what goes on at your friend's house Even if you don't participate You still know what's going on I think he did I think he very much did [SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about all of that coming up.

[SPEAKER_02]: We are glad you guys are coming in. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a Wednesday night, of course. [SPEAKER_02]: As we mentioned, Bob Cesca. [SPEAKER_02]: He will be coming in. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is good. [SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about that moment show because I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: I love the moment. [SPEAKER_08]: I did too. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just when we grew up, you know. [SPEAKER_02]: We love the moment. [SPEAKER_02]: It's great.

[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, we will get to the fact that Trump and the right want to steal the elections. [SPEAKER_02]: And they can't. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, as long as we keep standing up, we'll talk about that. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, fresh in your drink, do what you got to do. [SPEAKER_02]: Come on back. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_02]: You got Jody Hamilton and Shod Smith Pierce. [SPEAKER_02]: And you hear the politics part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all good. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by the way, Jody, obviously. [SPEAKER_02]: More comments out there again. [SPEAKER_02]: Darrell, be a Blue Sky. [SPEAKER_02]: He was asking after we got out last night. [SPEAKER_02]: He said, hey, was it was done to the accused of participating in a post-birth abortion? [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I said, look, accused or not, it's his ice monsters that have killed around 50 people in the last year there.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, he's doing a COVID high. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, Johnny's right. [SPEAKER_02]: The million people plus that he killed under COVID. [SPEAKER_08]: At least 400,000 that need to die. [SPEAKER_02]: And then all the people who have died because of the cuts to USAID and so no, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I may sound like a sports guy when I say this, Donald doesn't exactly have Hitler's numbers.

[SPEAKER_02]: But [SPEAKER_02]: what could have said pull pots numbers same thing the effect is the same Stalin's numbers uh... you know what we're not comparing numbers here like you know where we're looking at the all star game which we'll talk about the and be all in the a all star game later but i mean the fact is is that his numbers are disgusting yet and so actually happens to be the uh... the whole thing that he's doing with this

[SPEAKER_02]: So first round, the rights warrant democracy, election theft by nationalization is the category. [SPEAKER_02]: And Donald did, as we played before the break, doubled down on his calls for Republicans to nationalize the elections. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, we said this yesterday, Exitional Leam wrote over at MSNow a piece that I'm glad. [SPEAKER_02]: It says Trump cannot normalize elections but he's called to do it still matters. [SPEAKER_02]: And it does. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: the reason that we're doing so well in fighting the ice monsters in so many places around the country is that we are standing up and acting the reason that that you know small credit that it's due look Jeffries and Schumer have a long way to go before they're the kind of leaders that we really would like to have in congress but clearly they've figured out look [SPEAKER_02]: You want the money for DHS, we want 1, 2, 3, or 1, 2, 3, 4 things.

[SPEAKER_02]: These are the things we want, and they're keeping it simple. [SPEAKER_02]: So that everybody else can repeat them, and they can just sit on those and hammer those. [SPEAKER_02]: And those are every single one of those are things that virtually, you know, most people agree with. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, most of our enforcement deals with that. [SPEAKER_02]: every other kind of law enforcement deals with it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Why the hell should I write exactly, you know, having body cameras and name tags, that's simple. [SPEAKER_02]: Judicial warrants, duh, fourth of them. [SPEAKER_08]: Sorry, but it takes too long, sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: Tiny Johnson, you can suck on. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just saying there were 1600 people that were arrested and convicted of crimes for the United States. [SPEAKER_08]: And they all went through due process. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, of the things that that Garland and the Biden DOJ were doing back then, they actually got them through fairly quickly surprised. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you got 1600 of them, and you're facing charges like almost like well, the insurrection related charges. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's, it's some serious stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, okay, great.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like we said, body cameras and neighborhoods, judicial warrants, no masks and no ice detention or deportation of American citizens, that's just being given. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there are a lot of magas out there who are like, I don't disagree with any of those. [SPEAKER_08]: No, because, I mean, there are magas that are upset that there might be detention facilities built in their neighborhoods. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: There was one here in Virginia where they kicked them out. [SPEAKER_02]: They said, oh, go home. [SPEAKER_02]: I like to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, Kansas City. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, there's a lot of people who are standing up around the country. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of the reason that I'm positive. [SPEAKER_02]: Part of the reason that I'm positive also that he's not going to be able to steal the elections.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, at least not without a really serious fight. [SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, it's unconstitutional. [SPEAKER_02]: But there are no laws that are... What's the phrase that we're looking for self-enacting? [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not on automatic pilot, you know? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, none of this is.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, absolutely not, and this is the thing, we should ask Rebecca, I know she knows that phrase, and I know you're sitting there yelling at me in the radio or back, I'm sorry, I can't remember the name, but look, the fact of the matter is, if you make it legal, then there brought a lot of slavery was legal, women being second class citizens was legal, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right, and just because something is right doesn't

[SPEAKER_02]: And here's where people like Anna Polina Luna come in because her last name is apt. [SPEAKER_02]: Are you saying she has a tick? [SPEAKER_08]: She's a little luna. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, tick. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: She's been pushing this thing called the save act, but she, she didn't with this little trick where she tried to pull that this is this is a good liar will add in a little bit of facts.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Donald Trump often times will say one factual thing and 99 things that are absolute bullcraft. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: but he says one factual thing. [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times the media in trying to be balanced because you've got to both sides everything. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: Pouring. [SPEAKER_02]: Sucky.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they will focus on one true thing out of 100 that he said you're like, dude, no. [SPEAKER_02]: No, you got 99 problems in that A1. [SPEAKER_02]: But. [SPEAKER_02]: What she did is she took the standing filibuster, the talking filibuster that we've talked about, that that progressives have been pushing for a long time, liberals are with it and centrist Democrats. [SPEAKER_02]: So like, yeah, that makes sense, Mr. Smith goes to Washington. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: She decided to take that and say, we need to have the Senate do that so we can ram through this save act. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the save act, as we know it's in the news on tap today, is [SPEAKER_02]: awful. [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's horrendous. [SPEAKER_02]: Chuck got it right. [SPEAKER_02]: He called it nothing more than Jim Crow 2.0. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: And then you go right.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this is how they plan to try to somewhat nationalize the elections, is try to jam this, say that. [SPEAKER_02]: And they they want to add and Napoleon allunis says that she's going to try to add this legislation to virtually everything that goes through.

[SPEAKER_02]: And she's been warned by Thune in the Senate, and she's been warned by Tiny Johnson, especially if it's mandatory past stuff that it's not going to fly, because there's even a number of Republicans who are like, man. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't include this today, but you and I both had Thune, who else was it? [SPEAKER_02]: The ramp hall? [SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: He was talking to Stephanie Wu last night, but I mean, there are a number of Republicans who are like this crap doesn't fly. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's what this awful horrible save act would do. [SPEAKER_02]: First, it would impose strict, super strict, photo ID requirement to vote. [SPEAKER_02]: How strict? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's see. [SPEAKER_02]: If your last name doesn't match your birth certificate for any reason. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you got married?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, your parents. [SPEAKER_02]: They got remarried and you changed your last name? [SPEAKER_02]: Nope, I have a friend. [SPEAKER_02]: She's at an Oregon. [SPEAKER_05]: Hello? [SPEAKER_02]: I won't say her name, she's nice. [SPEAKER_02]: She needs to be married, she got divorced, but her and her husband, they literally merge their names. [SPEAKER_08]: And Tony and Tony and Viela Grossa, Viela Grossa, Viela, yeah, I can speak. [SPEAKER_02]: I know you're talking about, yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: Our old mayor did the same with his wife. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, congratulations. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_08]: That's it. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, sir. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, you got it. [SPEAKER_02]: You got it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's he's your former mayor. [SPEAKER_02]: I like your current mayor, too. [SPEAKER_02]: I assume. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but I like you're current better.

[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, thanks, Mayor Bass. [SPEAKER_08]: Anyway, I've met both. [SPEAKER_08]: So it's nice. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. [SPEAKER_08]: But if there's any change, forget it. [SPEAKER_02]: You're screwed. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: The same act would also create a centralized voter surveillance system. [SPEAKER_02]: What that? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So basically, they would track you. [SPEAKER_08]: My ballot tracks tracks you, but that's on purpose.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not just track you. [SPEAKER_02]: They would, they would have other things that would add in that would track you. [SPEAKER_08]: Which about tracks is something you join. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not something that's already tracking right right you you you join ballot tracks to find out if your ballot was accepted and then counted.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, kind of like the difference between the California voter map, which, by the way, passed the Supreme Court today, we got that story in the news on tap as well. [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, and that was because California voters said, let's do it. [SPEAKER_02]: As opposed to Texas, where the Republicans just said, we're going to cram this down your throat. [SPEAKER_02]: You can choke on it two different things. [SPEAKER_08]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: This would be the surveillance version of that for voting. [SPEAKER_02]: which would basically mean people would be getting kicked off all the time and you would have to defend your right to vote. [SPEAKER_02]: Even though you're American citizen, you're born here, you have the right to vote. [SPEAKER_02]: Nope, you'd have to defend it. [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of like considering you guilty, instead of innocent before it's proven, the exact opposite we have.

[SPEAKER_02]: It would gut motor voter laws that expand access to voter registration. [SPEAKER_02]: It would prevent states from counting ballots that arrive after election day. [SPEAKER_08]: But their postmarked prior [SPEAKER_02]: No matter if it arrived after it, congratulations, sucks to be you. [SPEAKER_02]: What about those states that have universal mail voting places? [SPEAKER_08]: You talk Colorado Washington State Oregon, Utah Colorado, and I want to say Hawaii and California has it.

[SPEAKER_08]: You can go in and vote too, but. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Nope. [SPEAKER_02]: This would ban universal mail voting where states mail about it to all registered voters and most states that have universal buying. [SPEAKER_02]: Me, me, me, me. [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: This would also ban federal voter funding for registration for outside groups. [SPEAKER_02]: And it would absolutely make local and state election officials.

[SPEAKER_02]: It would basically take off all kinds of protections against them. [SPEAKER_02]: So if somebody wanted to sue for some stupid asked for a list reason, ah, I think aliens came in and voted. [SPEAKER_02]: I think there was an alien space laser. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, guess what? [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have to waste your tax dollars defending those kind of lawsuits. [SPEAKER_02]: That is what is in the save act right now. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a great big. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, that's the kind of thing where even, I mean, you, you're going to get virtually every Democrat and independent. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, everybody who is registered Democratic voter, everybody's registered independent voter, everybody's going to be like, hailed to know on that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're going to go much from Republicans who are like, no, no, no, surveillance system, [SPEAKER_08]: Well, also, I mean, there are a bunch of Republican women who have changed their names legally. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, they're husband's last name. [SPEAKER_02]: Megan Kelly. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Erica Kirk. [SPEAKER_02]: I believe. [SPEAKER_08]: If he, if she legally changed her name, well, look, I don't think I- It'll be difficult for her to be able to vote.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Erica and Charlie were cousins. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, they're not exactly the most brilliant people in the world, but I don't think they were cousins. [SPEAKER_08]: People do call me by Lonnie's last name.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I did not take that name legally, right when we when we filled out the license to get married They're like you're gonna change your name and I said new Nothing wrong with that is people do it as as a a surname That's that's the whole purpose of surnames is so that you kind of understand a family grouping But there are ways that people use their surnames these days that have nothing to do with marriage [SPEAKER_02]: And there are people all kinds of hyphenids.

[SPEAKER_02]: There are people in in different families who one parent has one name, one parent has even name and the kids have a hyphenate name because they wanted from Y'all do whatever you want. [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a way for people to identify groups family groupings. [SPEAKER_02]: Ain't nothing wrong with that. [SPEAKER_02]: But this would make a whole bunch of that stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: And here's the big thing. [SPEAKER_02]: So all of this is supposedly to fight.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, we are this whole problem of non-citizens voting. [SPEAKER_02]: 300 job cuts, one third of every single department getting cut today. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, terrible. [SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Bezos is a jackass and don't expect there to be liberal billionaire saving any of us because clearly they're not anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: But an old Washington Post analysis from 2023 that was compiled by the heritage foundation.

[SPEAKER_02]: So heritage got the numbers, Washington Post double checked it. [SPEAKER_02]: went from 2002 to 2023, there were only 85 total cases in that entire 21 year period in all of the United States, all 50 states and seven territories of non-citizens voting. [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't it like a building vote? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's, yeah, it was an insane number of votes in that 21 year period and 85.

[SPEAKER_02]: Remember when we talked about retail and I told you about shrink and I said, it doesn't, it doesn't pay for them to put up the amount of security they would need to make sure that nothing is stolen. [SPEAKER_02]: They would end up losing two thirds of the money that they would normally be making in profit just to make sure that by God, nothing is stolen. [SPEAKER_02]: This is that for voting, and who the hell is going to want to shop at a store like that?

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, you know, I have friends that, that when California decided to just send everybody ballots, and old friend of mine was like, well, I got my daughter's ballot. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like throw it away. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, she doesn't live here anymore. [SPEAKER_08]: She lives in Iowa. [SPEAKER_08]: Right away. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not that complicated. [SPEAKER_08]: And you can't go for it. [SPEAKER_08]: He goes, I could vote for her.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but it'd be thrown out because you don't know her signature. [SPEAKER_02]: In a nation of 35 million people, two thirds of which can vote. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, but there needs to be a little flexibility. [SPEAKER_02]: You want to actually spend that much money to make sure there is zero. [SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to have any money. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to have any roads. [SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to have anything.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: These people are evil and cruel and stupid. [SPEAKER_02]: And this save act is a perfect example of that. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, it's basically it's designed to stop women from voting in general. [SPEAKER_02]: That too. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk more about that. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk more about the ice monsters coming up too. [SPEAKER_02]: As you can hear, I'm thirsty. [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, we're really doing the drink of the day.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll leave that next. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's politics bar. [SPEAKER_07]: Hang on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, uh, so it was the guy and and he, he goes to the Lee family or the Lee wedding or the Lee, no, I think it was Lee family reunion and, and it's, it's a bunch of Asian people and he's a very, very white guy and somebody asked him, are you a member of the Lee family? [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, why? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am because his Lee family reunion is like, free miller life. [SPEAKER_02]: So this guy, are you a member of Lee family? [SPEAKER_02]: Why? [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am.

[SPEAKER_02]: I am not. [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_02]: No, you do not have to be a member of any specific thing to get a drink from us to get drink information from us. [SPEAKER_02]: We do that every week, night here at the politics bar with the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_02]: And today's drink of the day does involve a family. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, really, it does. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not bad. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not. [SPEAKER_02]: I use that joke.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I still like it. [SPEAKER_02]: It's very funny. [SPEAKER_02]: Chotty, what is the drink of the day? [SPEAKER_02]: And what family am I hinting at? [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, it's called a Bacardi cocktail. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And the Bacardi company was formed this day in 1862. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, February 4th, 1862, Don Fakundo, Bacardi, and Maso. [SPEAKER_08]: Handsome guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not bad, obviously brilliant because until that time, rum had been shades of brown. [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: and then dude figured out how to filter it and make it clear and mixable with virtually anything. [SPEAKER_08]: And you could still light it on fire. [SPEAKER_02]: Indeed. [SPEAKER_02]: Especially if you get the wood or the car with 50, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, that's stuff is hard to get. [SPEAKER_02]: Chotty knows people, just say.

[SPEAKER_02]: Chotty knows people, so I do like the history around the logo for Bacardi, because it was his wife [SPEAKER_02]: Amelia, don't know, Amelia, she noticed the colony of bats was hanging in the rafters of the distillery and she knew the importance of the bat as a symbol to the Spanish and Cuban Taino, indigenous people, symbolizes good health and family unity and good fortune and she's like, hey, we should use that and they still use it now. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's pretty quick.

[SPEAKER_02]: We got the symbols, we got the history and we got the drink, which is [SPEAKER_02]: It's good. [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, McCarty does have a tie to Cuba. [SPEAKER_08]: It does because tie did. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got a really good history in there. [SPEAKER_02]: And I, you know, added a little bit of stuff there. [SPEAKER_02]: Because so you can't find McCarty drinks easily in Cuba these days.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because of the stupid stuff with US and Cuba, which is ridiculous. [SPEAKER_02]: Marco Rubio wants to make it right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Remember Biden and Obama were trying to go more towards normalization. [SPEAKER_02]: And anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but the funny thing is, uh, the company that the Cuban government basically let kind of take over the the rum trade in Cuba. [SPEAKER_02]: A McCarthy bought them out anyway.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they don't have the bat on their label, but it's still basically the party. [SPEAKER_02]: So good, good job there. [SPEAKER_08]: And global headquarters are at Hamilton, Burmuda. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Name down to my people. [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, is there a time family, I'm sure there is. [SPEAKER_08]: I know that we're related to Alexander Hamilton and we know he was born in the Caribbean. [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, we're really well.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that would that would make sense. [SPEAKER_02]: Then yeah, very cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Definitely. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Johnny, what happens to be in a the Cardi cocktail. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, you're going to need a shake or some ice, a strainer, a pre-chilled coop glass, two ounces of bicarade white rum, doi, three cores of an ounce of fresh lime juice, three cores of an ounce of grenadine, because you're going to get that nice red color.

[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_08]: See you at all the ingredients for the shake or you shake it. [SPEAKER_08]: strain it into your cook glass. [SPEAKER_08]: It's just it's easy to make. [SPEAKER_08]: It's not. [SPEAKER_08]: It's. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a light drink as far as the booze. [SPEAKER_08]: It's only two ounces. [SPEAKER_08]: Don't have too many of them, but two ounces are not good. [SPEAKER_02]: You can have a few of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the nice thing is you realize still the Bacardi family. [SPEAKER_02]: They are a privately owned company still. [SPEAKER_02]: All of the shares are controlled by seven generations worth of senior mass of those kids. [SPEAKER_02]: They only know is 95% of the shares estimated in your revenue last year or $4.7 billion. [SPEAKER_08]: So they're doing okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're doing it. [SPEAKER_02]: If they want to, you know.

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[SPEAKER_08]: Good one too. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So for those people who are like, well, some Republicans think think voting is okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't understand why they would want to make things so complicated. [SPEAKER_02]: You want to figure this one out? [SPEAKER_02]: All way rich. [SPEAKER_02]: People know that name? [SPEAKER_02]: No, what he said.

[SPEAKER_02]: And for those of you who don't, this is what he said, I believe it was a 1980 convention of Republicans here. [SPEAKER_05]: How many of our Christians have what I call the Google Syndrome? [SPEAKER_05]: Good government. [SPEAKER_05]: They want everybody to vote. [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want everybody to vote. [SPEAKER_05]: Elections are not one by a majority of people. [SPEAKER_05]: They never have been from the beginning of our country, and they are not now.

[SPEAKER_05]: As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite can't have like goes up as the voting populist goes down. [SPEAKER_08]: That's why Republicans try to squash the vote because they don't they don't have the policies anymore. [SPEAKER_08]: They did and now they don't and if you have the right policies, everybody votes.

[SPEAKER_02]: They had some, but they don't want to fight on a policy basis because especially modern mega Republicans, they know they know that if it comes down to a policy fight, they're going to get their ass kicked almost every time. [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't say abolish ICE, but if you say replace ICE, about 55 to 60% of the country, including former migrant Republicans are like, yeah, we can replace ICE because ICE obviously is screwed up.

[SPEAKER_02]: So if you don't say abolish ICE, if you say replace ICE, you get more of those people. [SPEAKER_02]: You get everybody on our side, politically left-wise. [SPEAKER_02]: You get virtually everybody independent, and you get some of the folks on their side. [SPEAKER_02]: And people go, yeah, because it's broken. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because people recognize it. [SPEAKER_02]: The Republicans, Paul Warrick, knew he knew. [SPEAKER_02]: And he says it right there.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't believe in democracy. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't believe in elections. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't believe in fair elections, because they know if it's fair, they're going to get their ass kicked every time. [SPEAKER_08]: Not since Ike. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_08]: He had a good policy. [SPEAKER_08]: By the way, he had, he was right, but I was there. [SPEAKER_02]: There are a lot of Republicans who don't even consider Eisenhower, a legitimate Republican.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't think he's a legitimate Republican because they're like, God, his policies were too liberal. [SPEAKER_08]: He was a really good president. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he was pretty much straight down the center. [SPEAKER_02]: He just happened to pick the party that wasn't racist. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Which at the time was the Dems. [SPEAKER_02]: And then we some Republicans.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, but I mean, you know, he was a Republican, but I mean, then it flipped in the 60s. [SPEAKER_08]: It flipped in the 60s to the Republicans being the racist and not the Democrats. [SPEAKER_08]: So. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Democrats were racist pre and then after the civil rights. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: And Johnson knew he was going to lose a bunch of Democrats in the South, but he still went for it.

[SPEAKER_02]: But look, that's the biggest reason, if the Democratic Party, if the positions had been had stayed, you know, we're the way they are now back then, I'm almost certain that Eisenhower would have been a Democrat. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, God, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because no matter what, everybody was like generalizing how our sir, obviously, you are the person who knows what the hell you're doing. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the biggest reason that he won.

[SPEAKER_08]: But- Well, I mean, and his, if you look at his platform back in the day, it was very progressive. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what was progressive for the time, but we would look at now and go, that's pretty solid centers. [SPEAKER_02]: He goes, yeah, that's fine. [SPEAKER_02]: But it wasn't racist. [SPEAKER_02]: And that's been the problem.

[SPEAKER_02]: and back even to the formation of the nation absolutely races the original sin in the United States always has been and for those people who are on our side and look quite frankly um misogyny [SPEAKER_02]: is also and that that goes back even further. [SPEAKER_02]: Molly night fantastic sports reporter by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: She's she's in your corner if the bar by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: She posted a over on Blue Sky earlier today.

[SPEAKER_02]: She's less slick. [SPEAKER_02]: She's one of people to notice something. [SPEAKER_02]: She says everybody who was against the Me Too movement is now team Jeffrey Epstein and friends. [SPEAKER_02]: She says, look, it's simply, it divides down into two world views. [SPEAKER_02]: The first view, the people who are in group one, women and girls should not be harassed or assaulted, and if they are, there should be consequences, duh, that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_02]: Group two, men should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to women and girls with no consequences. [SPEAKER_02]: No, sorry, no, no, no, but she's right. [SPEAKER_02]: That's, these are some of our original sins as a nation. [SPEAKER_02]: Some of us want to fix these. [SPEAKER_02]: Some of us want to say, you know what, no. [SPEAKER_02]: Racism is not okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Sexism is not okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Abolism is not okay. [SPEAKER_02]: None of that crap is okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: We're better when all those good people hang together. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And then you got the people who hang with you every abstin.

[SPEAKER_02]: So. [SPEAKER_08]: just saying it's to me it's it's pretty obvious you know there's there's us there's those folks I don't want to be with those folks yeah it is it is interesting how many people are that that wanted this out and they're like well Donald didn't do anything wrong dudes [SPEAKER_02]: They all, that is a typical thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Bob had a great piece, by the way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Bob says go over the banter.com here last week on the exceptions that some of these maca folks won for second amendment stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: They always want exceptions for them. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: But not for the rest of us. [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, they want rules and laws to apply to all of us, but they want to be able to do what how to hell they want. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, they are a little mad at Janine.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hero. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: For saying that you can't bring, you can't be a legal gun owner bringing that into DC. [SPEAKER_08]: Even Kyle Rittenhouse is demanding for her to be impeached. [UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_02]: Which, first of all, I'm surprised that anybody even pays attention to that kid. [SPEAKER_02]: Well. [SPEAKER_02]: And I know he's a young man now, but still. [SPEAKER_02]: He should be in jail, just saying. [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_08]: He murdered two people. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he did. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_08]: He killed two people because technically he's not a murderer. [SPEAKER_08]: He killed two people for those who want to sue. [SPEAKER_02]: He killed two people. [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't premeditated in the sense of knowing who they were.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was premeditated in the sense of, you know, bringing a unregistered a licensed weapon that he was too young to own into an area that was having severe conflict. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, he expected it to be. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and not all murders are premeditated, by the way. [SPEAKER_02]: This is true. [SPEAKER_02]: This is true. [SPEAKER_02]: See, look, Joe, he's very smart, which is helpful for me. [SPEAKER_08]: Something all right.

[SPEAKER_02]: You are something, something fantastic, which is good. [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we have some fantastic friends as well, including.

[SPEAKER_02]: the one the only bobsesca he is coming in here very shortly so he will be joining us we will get into more of the stuff from the news on tap we still haven't talked about the whole muppets thing yet i know and and and for those of you who are listening and you may have already seen this it's different time do not spoil it for everybody who's here in the bar okay don't spoil it we'll watch it later on Apple TV alright just you know [SPEAKER_02]: And there we go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, some people said that 700 agents are leaving Minneapolis. [SPEAKER_02]: Does Donald know? [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, he's, he, you know, he mumbled through it and sorry, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: He mumbled through it and said that he's, he's told Donald about this, it was an important reporter question that was asked though, let me, let me play this clip. [SPEAKER_04]: Can I ask a quick numerical just clarification and then get to my main question, please.

[SPEAKER_04]: So 700 leaving, if I could have immediately, how many will that leave here once that group is out? [SPEAKER_04]: and what is the free operation footprint? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, 150, 150, 150, 150, 150 is normal. [SPEAKER_02]: 150 is normal. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna leave 2000. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm unnecessary. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I, oh, man. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a waste of our money. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, by the way, they're not getting paid, so whatever.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we had that story was it yesterday. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they're all bitch in a morning. [SPEAKER_08]: Hey, you guys signed up for a guy that doesn't pay his bills [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not getting paid. [SPEAKER_02]: They're paid. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not getting paid. [SPEAKER_02]: Their bonuses. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not getting their insurance. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not getting squads, but, you know, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's fine.

[SPEAKER_02]: Look, we do have stories about how the DHS is still hunting people down, which is just insane. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's hit. [SPEAKER_02]: Pardon me. [SPEAKER_11]: Haba. [SPEAKER_02]: And there are still hunting people down here's the thing it could get worse in some areas Tennessee Republicans are now setting up a test of Stephen Miller's plan of enlisting states for immigration enforcement I'm not kidding.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's the story's there in the news on tap today When will he put on his jack boots? [SPEAKER_08]: I mean and the and the jodpers and He wishes he wishes [SPEAKER_08]: He is such a self-loathing Jewish human that is emulating people who would have murdered him in cold blood in the 1930s and 40s. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: This is, he is, when I say he's a monster, he is a monster. [SPEAKER_02]: He really is.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's the kind of person who even people who are on the right don't like, I don't know if, and you said he went to high school out there. [SPEAKER_02]: He did. [SPEAKER_02]: He went to San Monica, hi. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard any number of stories of people saying, they don't know of a single story of people liking him other than people who themselves are despicable. [SPEAKER_08]: I think people like Ted Cruz more than they like him.

[SPEAKER_02]: Steven Miller's and yet for you folks in Tennessee, the Republicans there are planning on working with him. [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, there's plenty of ugly stories about that. [SPEAKER_02]: The Ice Battle Uncapital Hill we've mentioned. [SPEAKER_02]: Thankfully Democrats are standing up and saying, look, we just want these four things. [SPEAKER_02]: They're not being very complicated about it. [SPEAKER_02]: And Congress really should pay attention.

[SPEAKER_02]: There is that new Harvard Harris poll, Trump approval has dropped [SPEAKER_02]: folks. [SPEAKER_02]: You can say get rid of ice. [SPEAKER_02]: You can say replace ice. [SPEAKER_08]: Reform ice, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, excuse me, the difference between reform ice and replace ice. [SPEAKER_02]: Reform ice assumes ice is still either. [SPEAKER_02]: But if you say replace ice, replace ice is actually more popular than reform ice.

[SPEAKER_08]: But what do you replace it with and just call it something different? [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you really have to. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, but that's if we were going to abolish ice, we would want to replace it. [SPEAKER_02]: You still need somebody to immigration. [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, we still need immigration enforcement. [SPEAKER_08]: There is no doubt in my mind that we do.

[SPEAKER_02]: But this is one of the things that we do here is we talk about communications here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that folks should be aware of is, [SPEAKER_02]: fine abolish ice doesn't work as well. [SPEAKER_08]: It used to be called INS immigration naturalization services. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: I say they but INS people thought a little bit better of it. [SPEAKER_02]: So fine just just say you know replace ice people say what with you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: go back to what we were and with those rules and how it was done and go back and you know do things a little bit better but you know change it but obviously get rid of the name ice make an i and s it's fine and and people really ago this isn't it wasn't sent down on tablets from some mountain on high folks this is just how this is so and whatever works if you want to say abolish ice and you're in a group of people where you know that you can like her politics bar

[SPEAKER_02]: If we were going to say the full thing, it would be abolish and replace. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: So just skip it and just say replaceize. [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're going to get more people who will be like, Well, I don't want abolish it, but we could replace it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I know that that is really, really stupid to a lot of you because you're like, um, that's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: But you also have to remember there are millions of Americans who don't know the difference between the ACA and Obamacare. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: We're in television because we're hanging out of the politics bar with these intelligent people here. [SPEAKER_02]: The folks who don't know the difference between the ACA and Obamacare and don't know the fact that they're the same thing. [SPEAKER_02]: They're kind of dumb. [SPEAKER_02]: But the goal is to get the job done.

[SPEAKER_02]: What do you call your shoes? [SPEAKER_02]: Like your regular shoes that you wear? [SPEAKER_08]: When I go walk about the earth? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, tennis shoes and tennis sneakers. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, does it matter what you call them? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: And if somebody said, look, I'll give you a new pair of shoes every three months.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just like the ones you have now for the rest of your life, if you call them, tennis, consider sneakers. [SPEAKER_02]: Would you call them, tennis? [SPEAKER_08]: Sure. [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. [SPEAKER_02]: Does it matter what the label is for that? [UNKNOWN]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: there you go. [SPEAKER_02]: Does it matter whether we say replace ice or a abolish ice? [SPEAKER_02]: If the goal is getting rid of the monsters that are there. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't get.

[SPEAKER_08]: And the policies that are there and by the way, I think we should get rid of DHS. [SPEAKER_08]: That's a me thing. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I do too because that is that is such a it's redundant and we don't need it. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you George W Bush. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: and the right wing, which they're the ones who are behind a lot of this stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: These monsters, but the good news, there are a lot of people who are fighting back and doing so many good things. [SPEAKER_02]: So for those who missed it, and we didn't play clips because they're long, but you should go back and listen. [SPEAKER_02]: There was a special House and Senate combined hearing yesterday. [SPEAKER_02]: Renee Goods brought us testified. [SPEAKER_02]: There were some other good folks that testified too. [SPEAKER_02]: Good, long, obviously.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to Aaron Rupar, any of his social media or ace and they both have clips, FACPOS has clips. [SPEAKER_02]: uh... going youtube or uh... you know blue sky any of the socials like that you'll you'll see them and now one republicans showed up yeah combined house and senate they invited all these people want you different other people to a bunch of experts and things not one republican house or just testing yeah

[SPEAKER_02]: not even the quote reasonable ones likely some rickowski technically she's an independent but still but the fact of the matter is is that this is one of these things that that uh... share jacobas has told us bruce Bartlett has said this is the kind of thing that democrats in congress should be doing

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, maybe you can't put legislation through it, but you damn sure can put on a hearing and you can bring in these people and put them on camera and get the clips out there and get people seeing the real seeing and hearing the real stories of real people. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, these are things that you can do and should do, maybe they're finding a listener share, I don't know, let's be nice if they were. [SPEAKER_08]: It's smart politics. [SPEAKER_08]: Crazy.

[SPEAKER_08]: Because it got, it actually got attention because a lot of times Democrats try to do things and nobody pays attention. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: This people pay attention to. [SPEAKER_02]: They did. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm glad they did. [SPEAKER_02]: It was good. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got the stories and there are some clips in there as well that you guys can look at in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, federal judge has limit ice agents use of crowd control.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Bob Sespas here, we finished that limit ice agents use of crowd control munitions at the Portland ice building. [SPEAKER_02]: So no, no, no more tear gas out there, Bob, which, you know, that's a good thing I think. [SPEAKER_03]: I think so, yes, improvement. [SPEAKER_03]: Pushback works, it turns out. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So the dictatorship is soft. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a soft. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a flaccid. [SPEAKER_03]: It was a flaccid.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a flaccid. [SPEAKER_03]: Tadiship? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's. [SPEAKER_08]: I was a little close, they're Sean. [SPEAKER_02]: Right, I get things a little a little bit close.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just a hair cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl-cl- [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, several states are moving to ban local law enforcement cooperation with ICCP-DHS in immigration arrest.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, this is the flip side of those people who are in Tennessee. [SPEAKER_02]: The Republicans in Tennessee who are trying to work with Stephen Miller is the flip side. [SPEAKER_02]: There are states, there are localities who are like, ah, ah. [SPEAKER_02]: They want to do it, they can do it all on their own. [SPEAKER_02]: Which? [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_02]: These are the kinds of, oh my God. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, this is the thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: Have either one of you heard about this one. [SPEAKER_02]: So the Minneapolis City Council, this kind of goes to that third amendment thing, Jodie Smiling. [SPEAKER_02]: She heard this, obviously, she saw this Bob. [SPEAKER_02]: So the Minneapolis City Council have a subcommittee that deals with liquor licenses. [SPEAKER_02]: They delayed the liquor licenses for two hotels. [SPEAKER_02]: that happened to be hosting ice agents. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, blammer.

[SPEAKER_02]: Dark. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry, that's just slipped our mind. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's a claim about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what? [SPEAKER_08]: You did not cross your teaser dot your eyes. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_02]: Or, you know, cross your eyes or dot your teeth. [SPEAKER_02]: That too. [SPEAKER_08]: That's what I do. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the little things like that. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and then there was the one I love the story that you sent, Jody.

[SPEAKER_02]: Manyapolis has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize by the nation magazine. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Katrina. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm sure Johnny's mad about that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the city of Minneapolis gets an nomination and Donald Trump, well, I mean, he's gotten an outage of being on getting even at the Nobel Laureate that the people in the Nobel We've never done it before, but we'll take a look [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, so I'm pretty glad about that. [SPEAKER_02]: So look, there is plenty of reason to be positive and of course Bob Cesska is here also another reason to be positive and and and the new Muppet show is on tonight.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we it's probably on right now depending on when you're listening we're definitely going to be talking about that. [SPEAKER_02]: Also, there is a review of the Melania movie that brother David sent us. [SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about that as well. [SPEAKER_02]: And this great theater up in Oregon that really well. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about all of that. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, Bob's here. [SPEAKER_02]: Jody's here. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm here.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're here fresh in your drink. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a Wednesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Come on, back. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about, well, oh, hang on. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_02]: Website here at the politics bar you regular you guys know what time it is The idea of a co-bob like whoa the one the only Boxeska it's as close as we get to a theme song for you, Bob Speaking of theme songs every time I hear that particular bumper music that you play right before I come on I want to sing [SPEAKER_03]: No, baby, I hear the blues of Colin, Toss out. [SPEAKER_03]: It's in my mood. [SPEAKER_08]: I let Lonnie know. [SPEAKER_03]: What a thing, the Fraser theme.

[SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like the Fraser theme to me. [SPEAKER_03]: Look. [SPEAKER_08]: But Lonnie, don't tell them, no. [SPEAKER_02]: Lonnie did a fantastic job with the music. [SPEAKER_02]: And he had had so many comparisons and different things. [SPEAKER_02]: And there are people like, oh, I want to hear longer version. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, uh, it's great. [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it was thrilled that it was funny.

[SPEAKER_08]: A few weeks ago, John Fughalsang had to come on at the top of the show.

[SPEAKER_08]: right at the top of an hour and he had never heard the singing part because there's a song there's lyrics at the top of the show yeah oh okay yeah and so he's like wait there's lyrics never left there always has been dude you don't come in at the top of the show yeah a BDD did the same thing yeah I think that was uh for Christmas when we did the best of yeah yeah yeah this one I was like oh my god there's lyrics like [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: Top of the shower.

[SPEAKER_08]: Top of the shower. [SPEAKER_02]: Magic. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So good. [SPEAKER_02]: Lottie's Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, we love Lonnie. [SPEAKER_02]: We love the people that we hang out with. [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, you know, you love Mary, which is great. [SPEAKER_02]: I had to make a comment earlier today online. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was laughing. [SPEAKER_02]: And I knew I saw you, you liked your song.

[SPEAKER_02]: Katie Fang, I think it was over on Threads, was like, she had mentioned something on her show. [SPEAKER_02]: And she got in Kirk and Picard mixed up. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_02]: That's big. [SPEAKER_02]: And she was focused on the legal stuff that she was talking about. [SPEAKER_02]: And she just, she had the courtesy to say, look, I apologize, you know, I meant to say Picard and I said Kirk, whatever.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I just said, look, you know, whether you come to hang out with the politics bar or not, Katie, we would love it if you did. [SPEAKER_02]: The person that you actually need to talk to, you need to talk to Bob Cesca, and there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: of check politics because they will set you straight on your track stuff just say and you were like like like like or just a basic Google search or that might well might save Katy Fang sometime she is she is busy trying to parse all this legal stuff which yeah I totally forgive that I mean certainly well at least at least not a qualification for my respect okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly, at least she's not like this poor girl. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my, that lawyer.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, Bob, did you hear the story? [SPEAKER_02]: So this poor young woman, D.O.J. [SPEAKER_02]: lawyer, right up in Minneapolis. [SPEAKER_02]: She literally asked a judge to hold her in contempt. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, so that she could get a break from trying to clean up the masses of the ice monsters. [SPEAKER_02]: Because, oh my god, well, I guess she had what is it here? [SPEAKER_02]: Her name is Julie Lee.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and she had 88 cases dropped on her in less than a month and then she was explaining to the judge. [SPEAKER_02]: She said quote, the system sucks. [SPEAKER_02]: This job sucks. [SPEAKER_02]: I wish you could hold me in contempt like get 24 hours of sleep. [SPEAKER_02]: Like literally to get any one action done, she has to send out 10 emails so that ice will actually follow what the judges say. [SPEAKER_02]: The judges said release this person.

[SPEAKER_02]: The judges said release this person. [SPEAKER_02]: The judges said, [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like Bart Simpson on the chalkboard, and she's just so it basically makes 88 cases like 880 cases dropped on her in less than a month one person. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, because her colleague is quit. [SPEAKER_02]: So well, yeah, 14 of her colleagues just quit. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and Minneapolis Minnesota alone. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying about flacid dictator ship a second ago? [SPEAKER_03]: This is idiot yacrisis. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: What we're talking about here is the right. [SPEAKER_02]: This is lucky. [SPEAKER_03]: And so far as these guys, these fascists, the thwartarians are just morons. [SPEAKER_02]: That's why we called it half-fascism because it is half-fast fascism. [SPEAKER_02]: It is half.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is absolutely half-fascism and I mean, we're glad that it is. [SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that, nominally, this is a DOJ lawyer. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_02]: They're supposed to be on the same side. [UNKNOWN]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Because right now, we can't trust the Trump DOJ. [SPEAKER_02]: So this is somebody on their own team and they're going, yeah, screw you. [SPEAKER_02]: Do the work. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm, uh, well, and she's asking for to be held in contempt.

[SPEAKER_08]: All she has to do is tell the judge to f off and you're in contempt, young lady. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, seriously. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm sure that the judge would probably recognize that. [SPEAKER_02]: Be like seriously. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you? [SPEAKER_08]: Are you sure about that? [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I'm sure. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure screw you, go home. [SPEAKER_08]: I just need to sleep at a jail. [SPEAKER_03]: So how many of these DOJ lawyers over time are going to be just barred?

[SPEAKER_03]: It just seems like so many the possibility. [SPEAKER_02]: So what that we're saying here at the bar last night, this is something that none of these people are thinking about long term. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, these people none of them are that they're thinking about today or maybe next week, but they are completely not [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say that it went from half-ashism to, you know, German-style sharp suits and things, fascism.

[SPEAKER_02]: Even then, those people would be like the half-assed people have to go. [SPEAKER_02]: Only they would, well, put them on turning cars and things. [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, that's what they did in Germany. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the history. [SPEAKER_02]: And the people who were half-assed were treated just like gay people, just like Jews, just like, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: They were like, I'm sorry, you're an idiot, you're gone. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, but I'm a Christian.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, no, you screwed up this, this, this, this and this. [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, no, we need to make a lesson of you. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: So, [SPEAKER_02]: there's going to be accountability one way or another. [SPEAKER_02]: Whether things get wet, worse, or whether things get better. [SPEAKER_02]: So why don't understand why these people are like, well, I was going to keep half-assed and it could not be anybody, no matter right?

[SPEAKER_02]: You need to know this. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing that they're not counting on. [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly, Donald Trump is in counting on this for whatever reason. [SPEAKER_03]: And granted, there may be an opportunity for them to solidify their power and stay in office indefinitely. [SPEAKER_03]: But the odds are, [SPEAKER_03]: that that is not going to happen.

[SPEAKER_03]: The odds are that Donald Trump will leave after 2008 after that election and I guess beginning of 2020-2028 and then leave office in 2029 and that's assuming that's very likely to happen. [SPEAKER_03]: And then all of the stuff gets wiped away.

[SPEAKER_03]: I assure you that if that next president is a Democrat and there's a pretty solid chance that it will be a Democrat [SPEAKER_03]: that Democrat will wipe away all of this stuff that Donald was done as though this last four years never actually happened except for the human toll. [SPEAKER_03]: The human toll, you can't necessarily wipe that away. [SPEAKER_03]: Now these people being disappeared and tortured and so forth and murdered in the streets, that you can't fix.

[SPEAKER_03]: But as far as the institutions about the Smithsonian, about the national parks, about things like the Kennedy Center, the East Wing and all of the damage [SPEAKER_02]: All for and must be reversed yeah, I think I think that needs to be something that we need to make Was it Joe Walsh?

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was Joe when he was here back a while Yes, that that that that's something that that he believes needs to be a pre-wreck For any Democrat campaigning for president eventually in 2028 and it should be for Democrats who are campaigning for Congress basically from now forward is [SPEAKER_02]: When we get rid of Trump and these monster versions of these Republicans, these magma monsters, when we get rid of them.

[SPEAKER_02]: we got to undo all this stuff and make sure that we undo it and make sure that we hold these monsters accountable like Glenn was saying Glenn Kirstie was here yesterday he's a little bit of great and and Glenn was saying not only that but like the the state bars yeah they need to go through with like all of these jackass lawyers like Rudy I mean Rudy lost his license in New York and DC but they're going to need to do this to all of these little Lindsay Halligan she's not going to be able to sell

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's hoping on dancing with the stars. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. [SPEAKER_03]: The least popular Fox News contributor for a few years there. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And she'll let you go, you know, Jonah, but Dan Bongino or something. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he's happy. [SPEAKER_08]: He's going to make his millions again. [SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't have to go to work at 7 a.m. anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: She's showing up for work at 7. [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. [SPEAKER_02]: That's late. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, as we three are like, yeah, that's a good job. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there's going to be so much accountability that comes down. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there has to be, and I think that needs to be something that, in fact, I haven't seen any real polling on that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, because to me, if you're going to start listing issues for poll respondents to prioritize, right, restoring democracy has got to be one of those items, because to me, that has become as crucial in issue, as the economy, and some other things, I wouldn't say the climate crisis. [SPEAKER_03]: I think the climate crisis should, in every poll, be the number one, [SPEAKER_03]: I wish you were prioritizing. [SPEAKER_03]: We wish. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everyone's right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: That's I said, we should be that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not, but, but we, anyway, but that's a whole separate thing. [SPEAKER_02]: We've been simplifying it, too. [SPEAKER_02]: We've been saying, look, affordability and accountability. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because without those two, we're not going to get to all the things we need to do. [SPEAKER_02]: Like with the climate crisis.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like with, I mean, there's so many things that we need to do. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's really simple because a lot of the stuff that makes things more affordable, also holds people accountable. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the true line through all of the top shelf issues, including restoring democracy. [SPEAKER_03]: And that is the oligarchy. [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't emphasize this enough. [SPEAKER_03]: And this has become writ large.

[SPEAKER_03]: And in fact, I've become much more radical over the last four years or so when it comes to economic populism and anti oligarchy. [SPEAKER_03]: Because as we've seen through great shock and horror, [SPEAKER_03]: the oligarchy extends from everything through the economy to the Epstein files, to income inequality and all points in between.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's the oligarchy that is doing so much damage to democracy and the amount of privilege that's being exercised, the point where people like Elon Musk are invincible. [SPEAKER_03]: And so they can get away with being clients of people like Jeffrey Epstein and Galane Maxwell, because they know that they're money insulates them from accountability. [SPEAKER_02]: At least in the United States, you see what they're doing over in France right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, they raided Grock the Twitter offices. [SPEAKER_02]: They raided Grock, they raided Twitter ex offices there. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because because of Grock and his, you know, child porn, and they're like, oh, we fixed it, and they're like, no, you didn't.

[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, oh, and then, and now they're calling him in front of their their version of I believe the Supreme Court and being like, yeah, we don't care what you said there, bring your ass to our court and we want you to say it under oath, heal. [SPEAKER_02]: And he's already doing the, well, how many how many how many how many and they're like, would you like to operate here? [SPEAKER_02]: If you'd like to operate here, your ass is coming to court. [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the EU has had X on notice for a long time now and I'm surprised the EU hasn't voted to block X from inside its borders because I think that would be a huge step forward. [SPEAKER_03]: A pushback against Elon Musk. [SPEAKER_03]: You can't necessarily hold him personally accountable, but you can definitely hold his business practice is accountable. [SPEAKER_03]: is now produced, which is shocking by spaceships.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, merging with SpaceX, X-A-I is a producer of child porn. [SPEAKER_03]: This is a mechanism that was allowed to go forward in terms of its large language model, that so many other AI platforms have long since blocked. [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't rock block the ability?

[SPEAKER_03]: to produce the sexualized images, especially of children for God's sake, because you know, you go to any of the other platforms, and if you put in some sort of proper name, like I wanna see Donald Trump and a diaper, the response is gonna be, we can't do this, like it's chatGPT, will not produce an image of someone who is a known person, even a known person for that matter. [SPEAKER_03]: they will not take a proper name and make some sort of image based on that proper name.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so why didn't Grock have that safeguard in place? [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't Elon Musk think? [SPEAKER_03]: No, I guess I'm answering, I'm going to answer my own question because you're a little lost. [SPEAKER_02]: Because, well, but no, it goes back to what you were saying with the oligarchy. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It's the same attitude of oops. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's literally on your shirt right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Joe, he's got the shirt that says, uh, I really don't. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I really do care. [SPEAKER_02]: I really do care. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: The opposite of what the Malania thinks. [SPEAKER_02]: And we know you really care. [SPEAKER_02]: But they don't.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they go, oh, yeah, they're they're told you need to do this and they go, oh, well, I kind of did it and then ups, oh, well and because in other corners of their life, like raping teenage girls, they're like, oh, well, I got out of it. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, and ups, oh, I just spilled a whole bunch of oil. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I just did this, yeah, oh, this thing and this killed this person.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, I got out of it because that's their mode of operating in the rest of their life. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: That is the Trump Epstein class. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: That's their old books. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure you saw the story in Reuters this week where they went back to Grock after Elon assured them that while we've made some safeguards, we've inserted some safeguards in the system. [SPEAKER_03]: They're no safeguards in the system.

[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, Grock, I mean, Reuters was putting in, make a sexualized image of this person and included in the prompt was, this person has not given us permission. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, sexualized themselves. [SPEAKER_03]: I think she's like, okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And Grock was like, okay, we're going to do it anyway. [SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't matter that they haven't given permission. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's, but it's different changes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the way the Trump Epstein class works. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the way the oligarchs work. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, do you care? [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I don't really care. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to do what I want. [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Melania. [SPEAKER_02]: Has you seen my awful movie by the way? [SPEAKER_03]: And I just, I always want to repeat and emphasize the fact that the Department of Justice under a fair-minded administration certainly not this one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Could fine Elon Musk 50% of his entire net worth, and he would still have $500 billion. [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: That is in a level of, that's a level of invincibility that's not afforded to anyone else and it can no longer stand 90% tax bracket for the ZMFers from now on. [SPEAKER_02]: That means I'm a policy. [SPEAKER_02]: You ain't got to hear me any disagreement with me on that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yes, and can you imagine the thing is that we can fund universal child care, universal pre-K healthcare college. [SPEAKER_08]: Infrastructure. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know bridges that are falling apart across the country. [SPEAKER_08]: We got high speed trains. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, there's so much. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, we got to pay the bills here. [SPEAKER_02]: We have more obviously that we will talk about here. [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, look, freshen up your drink.

[SPEAKER_02]: We got Bob Cesca for at least one more round here on a Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_02]: It's you, me, Jody, and Bob. [SPEAKER_02]: That's politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_07]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_02]: Last call on a Wednesday night here to politics bar thank you very much for hanging out play in the music Yes, everybody pretends plays the the magical invisible horns and the keyboards and what have yeah Thank you very much, a lot of you for the great music. [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you by the way if you are subscribed It's politics bar dot com six dollars a month [SPEAKER_02]: get you the podcast ad free man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, honestly, we know sometimes you prefer hanging out with Mary and talking about Trek politics.

[SPEAKER_02]: which is what it is it is it is it is good I I recommend people if they have not listened or watched the the track politics podcast they absolutely should we have that link by the way the guest section of the news on tap today what is the latest episode you guys are fresh my memory and that one what we're gonna try to cover the episodes of the original series that were political allegories of modern racism [SPEAKER_03]: for Black History Month.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the first episode of this month, the first episode of February was the infamous episode, let that be your last battlefield. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that was a good one. [SPEAKER_08]: I remember that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, a very, very obvious allegory about American racism, circa 1969, and it was a bold move for, for Star Trek to do it, then, but Mary and I just spoiler warning. [SPEAKER_03]: We talked about how it kind of missed the mark.

[SPEAKER_03]: They kind of both sides the issue of racism and the issue of slavery and so forth. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, uh, we were a little critical of that, but that's when we talked about the most recent episode. [SPEAKER_03]: This coming up weekend, we'll be discussing the also the season three episode. [SPEAKER_03]: Plato's stepchildren.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, which features the uh, interracial kiss between Captain Kirk and Lieutenant of Hurrah, but the whole rest of the episode, oh my god, talk about a weird [SPEAKER_03]: episode of Star Trek. [SPEAKER_03]: It is insane. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, I usually watch with headphones on, or with ear buds in, about in the living room. [SPEAKER_03]: And Kimberley was just doing her thing, but she kept catching glimpses of some of the physical performances.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, Bill Chatter and that is just, wow. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the one where Shatter's smacking himself. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's a meme about that or a gift with that. [SPEAKER_03]: I was talking about that, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it's just, it's a crazy, trippy episode.

[SPEAKER_02]: Look, there's, there, there is fun stuff that's involved in entertainment that I think is really important that I don't think that everybody always pays attention to as far as as like, okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, this, this whole thing with the Melania movie. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: It shouldn't be nominated for an Oscar.

[SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_08]: Jimmy Kima said that if it were to be nominated, he is insisting on hosting that ears Oscar saw that. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get that. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't get that story in the news on that. [SPEAKER_08]: It's like, I'll do it for free. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to host. [SPEAKER_03]: Never. [SPEAKER_03]: He shouldn't. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't need to waste his time. [SPEAKER_03]: Because no. [SPEAKER_02]: No.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be nominated for anything except maybe a golden raspberry or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: But look, so as you guys saw me regular here at the bar no, brother David, who, you know, he's calling it a Randy show all the time, used to be the theater and movie critic for the L.A. Times, and there have been a number of reviews of the Malani movie, and I was like, hey, you know, whatever when you get to it, he selected one for us today from the Guardian, and we put it in the news on Tap today. [SPEAKER_02]: That's brother David says is the best review

[SPEAKER_02]: Best not necessarily in the you know giving it the best reaction, but it's the most fair I kind of like the reaction of this this theater up in Oregon Amazon pulled the movie from them No kidding because they have this thing where they they do weird stuff on their marquee So the movie was coming up and they were supposed to be showing the movie And so they put things up on their marquee that said things like does maligneware a product find out Friday

[SPEAKER_02]: And then they said things like that they change it and said to defeat your enemy, you must know the Melania starts Friday and then Right exactly and Amazon was like, that's not funny. [SPEAKER_02]: You guys are it's funny Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think Amazon even care because ultimately it's just a bribe from Jeff Bezos exactly You're not gonna make any of that money back.

[SPEAKER_03]: So not even bother trying to promote it or defend it because 35 million [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's what the theater did after Amazon called and said, I'm sorry you guys have to get rid of this crap so they put this up it's called the Lake theater and cafe and this is what they changed their marquee to they changed their marquee and their marquee said Amazon called our marquee made the mad all maloney shows canceled show your support at Whole Foods instead

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not as bad as it used to be. [SPEAKER_02]: We used to jump and we call it a whole paycheck, but still we've got those stories in the news on tap in the entertainment section today. [SPEAKER_02]: Don't know if there's going to be a positive end to the saga about Savannah Guthrie's mom. [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't have been quite a bit terrifying. [SPEAKER_08]: I can't even imagine.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, as public voices, the three of us, it's like I, every time I see a story like that, it's like there, but for the grace of God, you know, it's like good word that can happen to any of us. [SPEAKER_02]: Having had more than one, but the one death threat that really sticks to my mind was the first one that I dealt with.

[SPEAKER_02]: When the guy who was the boss of Randy show at the time told me not to tell her, [SPEAKER_02]: And then I had, yeah, that guy, that guy, and then I had to find out and I, you know, reach out to different people through. [SPEAKER_02]: Thankfully, literally, Kamala Harris was the AG of California because that's where, but it was cross-state lines of technically would have been a federal crime. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: And she handled it.

[SPEAKER_02]: She and her office didn't I appreciate that. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we've got a story in the news on tab about how the today show bosses have now been taking drastic measures to protect the NBC and today show staff. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what the motivation is behind whoever did this. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: My fear is something like the Gretchen Whitmer.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where my mind went to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure that's where Governor Whitmer's mind went as well. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I always think about the first time I was stalked because of being on the radio, right? [SPEAKER_03]: And I remember it was in college. [SPEAKER_03]: I was still doing college radio.

[SPEAKER_03]: I did a daily morning show for my college station where I was doing Three hours every morning in addition to being editor and chief of the newspaper and actually taking classes which I didn't do very well on, but You're missing actually going like you're working. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I remember going up to the radio station with a crack of dawn, of course, and walking up to the door and seeing a note taped to the door.

[SPEAKER_03]: And as I got closer, it started to come in a focus, and if someone had printed out just a page, you know, 8 by 11, he's a typing paper, and it said in big, and a giant font, it said, Bob Cesco will taste the blade of God. [SPEAKER_03]: Which was just utterly terrifying, especially if it's still dark out, you know, that hour of the morning and it's like, what is this all about?

[SPEAKER_03]: I was just doing a stupid college radio show, and so I irritated someone so badly that they left that note on the door of the radio station Fortunately, I never got to taste the blade of God, which by the way I immediately joked about that morning is being my favorite Ben and Jerry's flavor. [SPEAKER_08]: Was it Jessica Walter by any chance?

[SPEAKER_02]: Look, it's most of those kinds of things we do have to laugh off, but unfortunately for, as I said, to many times before for those of us on the left, in left-laning media, we've all gotten nasty grams and that's where I'm said are very scary sometimes, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And just go, you're like, seriously, people, it helps if they can actually spell, but still.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, it's, and a lot of it is because Donald Trump continues to label the media as being the enemy's people. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and the right way, every time you're trying to open that track back to Rush Limbaugh and his predecessors, too, who were like, it's an Arab liberal media. [SPEAKER_02]: And now the mainstream media is owned and controlled for the most hardby right wingers. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, you guys are, you want the whole thing, dude.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, actually it extends even beyond the news media as being enemies of the people Donald Trump has labeled every Democrat as the number one threat to America, right, even beyond our foreign enemies and terrorists and so forth, which is that is how he has defined more than half of the American voting population.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it's it's kind of amazing that it hasn't happened more often, not [SPEAKER_02]: Look, things that keep people from being that mean are things like laughter and humor and being able to laugh at these things. [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of which, one of my favorites, I've mentioned several times. [SPEAKER_02]: The Muppets, the Muppets show has a brand new thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Sabrina Carpenter is the special guest. [SPEAKER_02]: It's tonight.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys missed it, you can see it on Apple TV. [SPEAKER_02]: We've got the instructions on how and where you can watch it. [SPEAKER_02]: In the entertainment section of the news on Tap Today, but the review in the New York Times said it was great. [SPEAKER_02]: They said, this is in fact your grandparents' muppet show. [SPEAKER_02]: Thankfully. [SPEAKER_02]: And hey. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm. [SPEAKER_02]: Who's your favorite Muppet, Jodie? [SPEAKER_08]: It's hard, man.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's... [SPEAKER_08]: I can't. [SPEAKER_08]: It's... [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, they're all great. [SPEAKER_03]: Animal. [SPEAKER_03]: Animal. [SPEAKER_03]: Animal. [SPEAKER_03]: I have a short... [SPEAKER_08]: I've got to show you about animal. [SPEAKER_08]: It's hilarious. [SPEAKER_02]: From one of Lonnie's... No, no, no. [SPEAKER_08]: It was submitted years ago. [SPEAKER_08]: And it is one of the funniest. [SPEAKER_08]: And it's just a preview for a movie.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it is so funny, love animal. [SPEAKER_02]: I have it on video tape. [SPEAKER_02]: This is how old that is. [SPEAKER_02]: If you like, if you consider the Sesame Street characters, Muppets, I mean, I love Ernie, who else? [SPEAKER_02]: I do like Kermit.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like how can you not like Kermit right exactly I like scooter night it's of course he's the producer so You know, yeah gone It's really it's really it's really it's really there's there's there's there's more women There's people who are just like you know piggy's the only woman. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like are you kidding now?

[SPEAKER_02]: She's not exactly Prairie Don and Janice and I was a big bird was a well I was I don't [SPEAKER_03]: No, I thought of Big Bird as a girl, like as a child as a like a young girl who's just experiencing the world Possibly three I have they I do is whether three no not that I know of no interesting No, but I mean, but Big Bird is my actually my second favorite muppet. [SPEAKER_03]: I've always No Big Bird. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like Big Bird too, and yeah, it's not full of a guess.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay Right, and if you want to ball your eyes out [SPEAKER_03]: go to YouTube and watch the clip in which Mr. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Mr. Hooper, yeah, or no, what is it? [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's someone is informing Big Bird about this news. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just it's got to kind of remember that the actor or the character's name because he was the Asian guy who took over the little bodega there and then before it was the current.

[SPEAKER_08]: And they had to explain death to these children. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, right. [SPEAKER_03]: And Big Bird and Big Bird and Big Bird was confused and upset. [SPEAKER_08]: It's a well-written and beautifully done. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Look, there is some great children's television. [SPEAKER_02]: You and I were talking earlier today, Jody, about the electric company. [SPEAKER_02]: I love that show. [SPEAKER_02]: So many of the looney tunes have different levels.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the kids level and this is the adult's level. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's going on at the same time. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: That's just such well-crafted stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: I know. [SPEAKER_03]: I assure you, no one as a kid who was watching Sesame Street, [SPEAKER_03]: was thinking, oh, look how woke this is. [SPEAKER_03]: No, right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it was just, you just, this was a neighborhood and there were lots of different kinds of people there. [SPEAKER_03]: And oh, yes, there were also muppets there. [SPEAKER_03]: It was felt completely normal. [SPEAKER_03]: 1,000 percent normal. [SPEAKER_03]: The fact that there were lessons in English, lessons in Spanish, it was just, it was an amazing, amazing program.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's still a great program, and I just, [SPEAKER_02]: The people who are like, oh, it's all about woke. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, dude, I feel so sorry for you that you never watched like Sesame Street, the electric company, and Mr. Rogers neighborhood, any of that stuff, man. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, P. Hexeth is mad at the scouts. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, we'll get into that, maybe tomorrow of Jesus.

[SPEAKER_02]: The things that cake breath is, you know, mad at, it would help if you was sober, just saying. [UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_02]: Bob, I know, we know you've got to go, look, Jody will be hanging out with you tomorrow. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But look, everybody can hang in with you anytime, if they just go to popsesca.com, they can sign up, they can get your podcasts, they can go to your Patreon. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they can get the great t-shirts that you have there, including the spicy Jody t-shirts, just saying. [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_02]: Bob, thanks guys. [SPEAKER_02]: Always for coming and hanging out, man. [SPEAKER_02]: We appreciate you. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much, both of you. [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you next week. [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow, it is Thursday. [SPEAKER_02]: People's single be here.

[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see you here too. [SPEAKER_02]: Hang on.