Fire and ICE June 24, 2025

[SPEAKER_05]: It's political. [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice here. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, for like two thirds of the country right now, it is scorching hot out there. [SPEAKER_05]: It is [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to say it's nasty would be an understatement. [SPEAKER_03]: So I realized that the West Coast sent that heat wave for the rest of us. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, you got it first. [SPEAKER_03]: You sent it our way. [SPEAKER_03]: It's understandable, but holy hell, it's hot.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, they'll dry throughout there, because it's so hot. [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of hot and spicy, because we do have spicy Jodie Hamilton in the bar tonight along with me, Sean Smith Pierce. [SPEAKER_03]: We also are going to have the very spicy as always Joe Carducci, otherwise known as Joe Joe from Jersey. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, we are aware of the FCC sensors are listening. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for listening.

[SPEAKER_03]: Wherever you happen to be listening to us from on all of our great affiliates. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, am nine fifty up in the Twin Cities. [SPEAKER_03]: You've got WCPT in Chicago, America one radio online and Atlanta. [SPEAKER_03]: The detour talk radio and Tennessee and progressive voices radio wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Jody, so it's been, what, a minute, two minutes, five minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: Are we still at war with Iran? [SPEAKER_03]: Are they?

[SPEAKER_12]: I thought that there was a ceasefire, and then there wasn't a ceasefire, and then there wasn't a ceasefire, and then there wasn't a ceasefire, and then there wasn't a ceasefire, and then there wasn't, I don't know what's going on. [SPEAKER_12]: I woke up to a ceasefire, and then by the time I got to Stephanie's, there was no more ceasefire, and it was like, [SPEAKER_03]: And then by the time you got like halfway through staff, he's there was a ceasefire.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it's just, you know, he's keeps doing these proclamations. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: It's as if people go, he's crazy and it's like, no, no, no, this is how he runs his companies. [SPEAKER_12]: He says he sends a memo and people do what he says. [SPEAKER_03]: accepts, accepts. [SPEAKER_03]: There have been a few former people who have mentioned how Trump actually runs his companies.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the way he runs his companies is the way that a somewhat okay, that every somewhat okay business is run when the owner is an A hole and an idiot. [SPEAKER_03]: And the people under them actually know what the hell is going on. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So it works like this. [SPEAKER_03]: The owner fires off a missive that says, [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, everybody must do something more.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the immediate next managers are like, okay, chill out, wait five minutes because this moron is, you know, moron and we work for him, but whatever and he may or may not change. [SPEAKER_03]: So they wait five, ten minutes, whatever the normal time is. [SPEAKER_03]: And then they either act on it or they act in the way that they're fairly sure that the person wants it to be.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which means the rest of the world never actually sees what's going on with the idiots at the top. [SPEAKER_03]: They never see that. [SPEAKER_03]: So the, after the outside world, wow, company X is fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: They're really well run. [SPEAKER_03]: No, they're not really well run. [SPEAKER_03]: The executives are all morons. [SPEAKER_03]: They're reactionary. [SPEAKER_03]: They're loudmouth. [SPEAKER_03]: They curse. [SPEAKER_03]: They abuse their workers.

[SPEAKER_03]: But the workers that stay there have a reason for whatever reason it is. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's money, maybe the benefits are are perfect for, and they've got, you know, people in their family need to healthcare, whatever it is. [SPEAKER_03]: And those are the people who are actually making the business look good and work well. [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's why in thirty plus years of [SPEAKER_03]: If somebody says to me, do you want to interview the CEO of whatever it is?

[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you want to interview their secretary? [SPEAKER_03]: Or do you want to interview the janitor? [SPEAKER_03]: I will in a heartbeat take the secretary of the janitor because those are the people who actually do the work. [SPEAKER_03]: The jackass at the top couldn't count their eyeballs and get the same number twice half the time. [SPEAKER_03]: These people are freaking morons. [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry if I'm a little spicy myself, but I've run into this a whole lot.

[SPEAKER_03]: And this is what the world is seeing with Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean that we haven't had presidents who haven't mouthed off and lived off before. [SPEAKER_12]: Of course we have presidents with potty mouths, but there's a difference. [SPEAKER_12]: There's no choice, even Joe Biden. [SPEAKER_12]: It was a big deal, you know. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: And having a spicy vocabulary. [SPEAKER_12]: is fine. [SPEAKER_10]: Right.

[SPEAKER_12]: I don't have a problem with that. [SPEAKER_12]: It's. [SPEAKER_03]: Trophing ten twenty times a day and then changing your mind and then going after AOC and then doing and it's just like most governments and most companies and most businesses and most organizations that are well-run and look like a well-run ship. [SPEAKER_03]: They all have somebody. [SPEAKER_03]: or somebody's who vet the things that fly out of a mouth out of the PR of the person or the people in charge.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because they're the people that actually set the tone, they're the ones that create the reputation and the environment that everybody else looks at that and goes, oh, that business, that company, that person, they, you know, they are X, Y or Z. We just had an earthquake. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really? [SPEAKER_12]: It wasn't too bad. [SPEAKER_12]: It was a big jolt, so when my phone didn't go out, I might have it on silent, but we had a earthquake.

[SPEAKER_12]: So if we have another big one, I might lose power. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm just letting you know. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, awesome. [SPEAKER_12]: Just letting you know that, you know, we are overdue for a giant earthquake, and that was quite the joke. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I was thinking that was maybe the neighbors or something. [SPEAKER_12]: It was a earthquake. [SPEAKER_12]: I know what they are. [SPEAKER_12]: I've been here my whole life. [SPEAKER_12]: I know what they are.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry about that. [SPEAKER_12]: No, that's okay. [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay. [SPEAKER_03]: This end of the bar was not shaking. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it was just shaking because of all the cursing and the heated language. [SPEAKER_12]: That could be it.

[SPEAKER_03]: For those of you who were a little cop behind, the way that the situation with Israel and Iran worked, and this is from last night through, oh, I don't know about midday today, it could have changed by the time you're hearing this because we don't know if you'd to people have the future. [SPEAKER_03]: If exactly, if you're listening on podcasts, or maybe you're listening to one of the affiliates on delay, hey, and it's entirely possible, things have changed.

[SPEAKER_03]: So Donald Trump got a ceasefire deal with Iran and Israel. [SPEAKER_03]: And instead of running it through channels, Trump just slipped off and jumped right onto social media, which that's why it was going last night when we were here in the bar. [SPEAKER_03]: And we kind of after talking to Malcolm moved off of it because we're like, okay, is it him lip and off or do it? [SPEAKER_03]: Does anybody know what he knew what that was going on? [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody knew it was going on.

[SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_03]: When they figured out what was going on, I think it was around one AM Eastern time. [SPEAKER_03]: Israel finally came out and said, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's an actually a ceasefire and it starts at seven thirty local time there in the Middle East. [SPEAKER_03]: What's common with ceasefires, what's common with ceasefires of every nation these days, every modern nation, both sides, we'll write up until the very moment that the ceasefire happens.

[SPEAKER_03]: And this is actually a modern warfare going back to, I think World War I, this is very common, where they will lob a whole bunch of fire at each other. [SPEAKER_03]: So they'll they'll wait. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they'll have little break once the cease fires announced. [SPEAKER_03]: And then in the hours or minutes beforehand, they throw a bunch of stuff at the other people. [SPEAKER_03]: You suck, you suck, you suck, you suck. [SPEAKER_03]: People go, that's really stupid.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I go, I'm aware it's dumb, it's modern warfare, warfare is often dumb. [SPEAKER_03]: But sometimes in the intervening five, ten minutes after when the clock is supposed to strike, things still fall because not everybody's clock is at the same time. [SPEAKER_03]: That kind of happened with both Israel and Iran. [SPEAKER_03]: They were both pissed off. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So Trump, of course, here's this.

[SPEAKER_03]: And he gets mad because he's like, hey, I told you jerks to knock it off. [SPEAKER_03]: which, you know, I'm not exactly a fan of Donald Trump, but going out on his way to NATO today. [SPEAKER_03]: He talked to the media. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people haven't heard the whole bit. [SPEAKER_03]: They've heard different bits and pieces. [SPEAKER_03]: This is what he said. [SPEAKER_03]: I was able to clean it up. [SPEAKER_03]: Let me put on the DVR here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like plenty of things I saw yesterday. [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like the fact that is you unloaded right after we made the deal. [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have to unload, and I didn't like the fact that the retaliation was very strong, but in all fairness, Israel unloaded a lot. [SPEAKER_00]: And now I hear Israel just went out because they felt it was violated by one rocket that didn't land anywhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: What we want, I'll tell you, and I'm telling you, I'm not happy about that Israel either. [SPEAKER_11]: I'm going now, as you know, to NATO. [SPEAKER_00]: Some of you are going with me and I think it's going to be successful. [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll let you know. [SPEAKER_01]: I have you believe that Iran is building it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do. [SPEAKER_00]: They violated, but Israel violated it too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped the load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. [SPEAKER_00]: The biggest load that we've seen, I'm not happy with Israel. [SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in the first hour, it just drop everything you have on them. [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not happy with them, I'm not happy with the Ron either.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land, that we shot, perhaps by mistake that didn't land. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not happy about that. [SPEAKER_00]: We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what they're doing. [SPEAKER_12]: Yep, he's so classy.

[SPEAKER_03]: And look, I hate at times to say that I agree with Donald Trump because I don't, I don't agree the way he's handled this whole thing at all. [SPEAKER_03]: However, those people who do say that the way to handle it is when you are the negotiating party and the parties that you're negotiating piece four between two of them, if they mess up, somebody reaches across and says, you should slap them.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess, according to some reports, basically, he got on the plane to go to NATO, called up BB and said, what the F was that crap? [SPEAKER_03]: And BB was like, sorry, sorry, sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: They had planes, I guess, Israel did going to Iran at that point. [SPEAKER_03]: Turned them around because Trump was like, look, Jack asked. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure that baby Netanyahu doesn't hear that kind of language very often.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he probably should hear it a lot more because it might keep him in line. [SPEAKER_03]: That said. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, fine. [SPEAKER_03]: So at least for now. [SPEAKER_03]: depending on if things have changed in the last fifteen minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: They're on a ceasefire, but this is not the way to handle international diplomacy. [SPEAKER_03]: This is not, this is not how to do. [SPEAKER_03]: This is not how to keep us the United States out of war.

[SPEAKER_12]: Well, I personally don't think that Donald had anything to do with any plans of a ceasefire. [SPEAKER_12]: I think that had to do with Israel and Iran and that Donald had nothing to do with it. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't necessarily disagree with that at all. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that when we talked to Malcolm yesterday and we said that look, it's all a show and they were all basically planning on this. [SPEAKER_03]: They were planning on kind of toning things down anyway.

[SPEAKER_03]: So find let Donald stop out there and take credit whatever as long as the missiles do stop. [SPEAKER_03]: But I think his big thing is that he feels like they made him a fool. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Because he says, I'm organizing this great big piece thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And then they do what they always do. [SPEAKER_03]: What everybody always does in the ceasefire.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they start firing afterwards, except for the fact that this time in doing it, it made him look foolish. [SPEAKER_03]: And so he's mad about it. [SPEAKER_03]: You can go eight ways from Sunday on this. [SPEAKER_03]: The fact is, at least, like I said, maybe in the last fifteen minutes, they are at last check still at a ceasefire. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the first ring.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing that makes me want to curse is that this is not the way to do international diplomacy. [SPEAKER_03]: This is not the way to keep the United States out of war. [SPEAKER_03]: This ain't the way to do it folks. [SPEAKER_03]: We can do things better than this. [SPEAKER_03]: We can have cooler heads can prevail and should prevail.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we will have a lot more cooling off for you tonight, which I suppose people right now in the US could use a little bit of cooling. [SPEAKER_03]: Nice, nice cool drink perhaps. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got the drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, for all the fire that she throws, Joe Carducci is pretty cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: We will have all of that more news on tap coming atcha.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know since since this happens to be, you know, we're both on the radio and on podcasts. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, the future people, as you say, they may already be passed. [SPEAKER_03]: But if it is before nine o'clock tonight on Tuesday night and you happen to be in New York City and your registered voter, registered Democratic voter, you should be voting. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: You should have already voted.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because come on, what's hack voting is important, especially with an election like this. [SPEAKER_03]: Looks like early results, early early results from from what we said is, you know, voting seems to be fairly good. [SPEAKER_03]: They just all they can tell is how many voters they can't really tell not until they start counting. [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to take at least a week before we get any real results.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because remember with with ranked choice voting, you know, you all you're seeing if if all they're doing is looking at the top line, all they're doing is looking at everybody's first choice. [SPEAKER_03]: And that is far from the way that it works. [SPEAKER_12]: And how many people are running? [SPEAKER_12]: I know that I know of three, but are the five, six, seven, eleven people. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, wow, that's going to be forever to count.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll take quite a little and here's the deal. [SPEAKER_03]: There are there are basically three leaders. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: There is Cuomo, Madami, and Lander. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And so, and here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: New York City also has, they have this little thing that has been discussed in other places around the country.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think might be Seattle might have it to some smaller places to where they have secondary political parties. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not just the Republican Party and the Democratic Party. [SPEAKER_03]: There are multiple other parties and you can be endorsed on multiple party lines. [SPEAKER_12]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So for example, I have a friend Sarah who works for the working family's party in New York City.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's worked for them for an effort of now working family's party is definitely more progressive slash liberal. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And they they support mom Dammy. [SPEAKER_03]: They they support him and they that's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: That's great. [SPEAKER_03]: But Cuomo did the same kind of that he created his own political party. [SPEAKER_03]: So did Eric Adams, the current mayor, who is technically running as an independent, even though Adams is registered.

[SPEAKER_12]: Well, he was elected as a Democratic mayor, so. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: But you see what this, what this means for the general election then is. [SPEAKER_03]: And because Cuomo, who, let's be honest, Cuomo should frankly sit as asked now. [SPEAKER_12]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm sorry, him. [SPEAKER_03]: Roman manual talking about, I might run up for president, former Chicago mayor.

[SPEAKER_12]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: There is certain times for certain things, for certain people to run. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not saying all younger people should always be, we need to have people who have wisdom and experience, too. [SPEAKER_03]: But that said, I'm sorry, all of all of the scandals that Cuomo has had. [SPEAKER_12]: Especially him, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't think he's going to learn from it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, likely after the Democratic primary, if Ma'am Donning wins tonight, he will be likely the Democratic primary candidate. [SPEAKER_03]: He will also be the working partner working family's party candidate. [SPEAKER_03]: And then Cuomo will likely run as an independent in his own party. [SPEAKER_03]: And then Eric Adams will run as an independent in his own party. [SPEAKER_03]: And then there is a Republican courtesy who is not going to win because that's usually how that works.

[SPEAKER_03]: But people can run as independence in their own parties because they can be on multiple party lines. [SPEAKER_03]: And quite frankly, if Cuomo wins, it's not the end of the earth because Dominic can still, he can still run in the general election. [SPEAKER_03]: on the working families party line. [SPEAKER_03]: So the people who are like, oh, well, you know, we're gonna know in a week. [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're not. [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're not.

[SPEAKER_03]: What you're gonna know is in the general election, there will probably be at least four candidates, if not five. [SPEAKER_03]: And those people will run. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And you'll have opportunities then, but yeah, the idea that it's going to be a two-person race within a week is just silly. [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact is, look, everybody, there are so many people.

[SPEAKER_03]: I won't say everybody, but there are a lot of people who say, oh, we need more than two parties. [SPEAKER_03]: Watch what's going on in New York. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you watch what's going on in New York, you're going to see how that works. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you see last night's? [SPEAKER_03]: I sent you and Brooklyn Dad the video. [SPEAKER_03]: of the mom Danny and lander across endorsement. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, on blue sky.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, it was funny, right? [SPEAKER_03]: It was a good one. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's great. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a funny video. [SPEAKER_03]: It is. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the kind of campaigning that that that happens in ranked choice voting elections. [SPEAKER_03]: Where people instead of saying, I am the only one. [SPEAKER_03]: I am the chosen one. [SPEAKER_03]: They say, I think I'm the best candidate, obviously, I'm running.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think this person is pretty good. [SPEAKER_03]: And you rank me first and you rank that person second. [SPEAKER_03]: It engenders a much more positive environment to run elections and look for the voters. [SPEAKER_03]: It is so much better as far as that goes. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, it is so much better. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's it's it's one of the many reasons that I definitely appreciate.

[SPEAKER_12]: Right choice voting over the the current you know first pass the party system because I know people get frustrated in this day and age when things take too long but I agree I think it's a better way to do it. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah because then more voices get a shot. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, and instead of instead of it being, you voting against somebody that you hate, you're voting for somebody. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you don't love them. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you just like them.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, you're at least voting in favor of someone as opposed to against. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I tend to think that that's, that's a better option. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_12]: I love ranked choice voting. [SPEAKER_12]: I think it's a great idea. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be, I would love to see it in.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would love to see it everywhere, frankly, but, you know, whether it was in California or wherever, I mean, here, for, let, let me, let me, let me get this up. [SPEAKER_03]: I was scrolling there, let, let, let put this on the, on the DVR here, because I think it's, it's, I think, hey, hey, good morning. [SPEAKER_08]: That's the goal. [SPEAKER_08]: Please go second. [SPEAKER_08]: No, I insist you go second. [SPEAKER_08]: How about I go first? [SPEAKER_08]: You go second.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, we both love New York City. [SPEAKER_07]: And that's why it's so important to not send scandal written corrupt Andrew Cuomo to city hall. [SPEAKER_08]: New Yorkers deserve so much better than a disgraced creep. [SPEAKER_08]: A green Zaron, you've done a remarkable job building a historic grassroots campaign for a New York City. [SPEAKER_08]: All New Yorkers can afford. [SPEAKER_07]: Brad, you've been a principal progressive leader in our city for years.

[SPEAKER_08]: Early voting starts tomorrow, and we both know what we need to do to save our city from Andrew Cuomo. [SPEAKER_08]: You want to tell him? [SPEAKER_07]: You go first. [SPEAKER_08]: No, you go first. [SPEAKER_07]: Let's do it together. [SPEAKER_07]: We're crossing Dorsing. [SPEAKER_08]: In New York City, we have ranked choice voting. [SPEAKER_08]: That means you're going to rank up to five candidates for mayor. [SPEAKER_07]: Brad and I are officially telling our supporters.

[SPEAKER_07]: That's great. [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like if all our campaigns were that way. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh heck yeah, you know, the instead of the the campaign ads that we're so used to seeing, which is, you know, oh my god, everyone's going to die.

[SPEAKER_12]: You're like, you know, I mean, I remember when in twenty sixteen more so than twenty two thousand eight, but in twenty sixteen, it was more [SPEAKER_12]: jovial during the Democratic primary then in two thousand eight because people forget how close it was between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama that was a contested

[SPEAKER_12]: primary there there was some contested going on i mean i i would say you know both two thousand eight and twenty sixteen there was there's some hard feelings but i think that in twenty sixteen it wasn't as close it felt it for some of of the burning supporters of which i was a primary voter but you know once once [SPEAKER_12]: It was obvious that he wasn't going to get the nomination. [SPEAKER_11]: Right.

[SPEAKER_12]: I was full on Hillary because I was Hillary in two thousand eight. [SPEAKER_12]: So I had no problems with her regardless. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: It just, I mean, what people still get mad about, about Bernie, and it's like, just pay attention to the votes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the vote count between two thousand eight and, I mean, yes, was much closer between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama than it was between, between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I, I remember that. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm totally there. [SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is, if you have a ranked choice voting environment, you don't even get the snake in the grass emoji. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't even get the, you don't get to that point because being negative and Cuomo admittedly has been, he's been attacked on all sides and rightfully so. [SPEAKER_03]: Because I don't even think the guy should be running.

[SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_12]: It shouldn't be running. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think, I think this is one of those things where, [SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about all sides, but this time all sides are all in the Democratic side. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And by that, I mean, there are some young people.

[SPEAKER_03]: When first time we had John Fuse saying here in the barn, we talked about the old bull and the young bull joke, there are a lot of young bulls, young cows shall we say young people who understand that in order to get any real political power, you have to choose one of the two political parties. [SPEAKER_03]: at least in most of the country. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're in New York City, congratulations, you have other options.

[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're in most of the country, you really have to stick with the Democratic or the Republican parties to some degree to a greater degree because otherwise you're not going to win. [SPEAKER_03]: That's just how it is in most of the country. [SPEAKER_03]: You're not even going to get a chance. [SPEAKER_03]: And in so doing, there are things you have to put up with that you don't necessarily like. [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of the young people are, but I don't like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they get really mad. [SPEAKER_03]: And so instead of saying, I'm going to work within constraints that I hate, they throw huge tantrums and they say, if I don't get a hundred percent of what I want, I'm going to go home. [SPEAKER_03]: Y'all said you asked us out and stayed home in twenty twenty four here and boy look at that turned out. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah we make the perfect the enemy of the good. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah but it's perfect.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah exactly that that I love that phrase I absolutely love that phrase. [SPEAKER_03]: And and look there there are also and the tail of New York City mayoral campaign there are other elections going on but. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is instructive because. [SPEAKER_03]: The young people oftentimes turn and say, look, you've got two, the Democratic Party is a gerontocracy. [SPEAKER_03]: It is, that's government by two old.

[SPEAKER_03]: A government by old people is what gerontocracy is. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, we have a lot of people in local, state, and federal levels in the Democratic Party who have overstayed where they should be. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that they're not great people. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that they haven't looked.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nancy Pelosi has done some fantastic things in her career and one of the more important and impressive things that she did was staying in Congress, but stepping back from being speaking. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, that way she can treat freshman incoming freshman representatives. [SPEAKER_12]: Talk to her. [SPEAKER_12]: She's been there a long time. [SPEAKER_12]: She knows the ropes. [SPEAKER_12]: She knows the rules. [SPEAKER_03]: She's been training a lot of them.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's been training a bunch of the young people to gain the wisdom rapidly. [SPEAKER_03]: She's that there are people who think that AOC and Nancy Pelosi, you put in a room and they would kill each other. [SPEAKER_03]: And I regret to disappoint those of you who think that fight happens because the truth is Nancy Pelosi has been teaching. [SPEAKER_03]: AOC. [SPEAKER_03]: She has been guiding her so that she can become an even more an even sharper, better, honed political fighter.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, no, I mean, and that's like if I were to run and get in to say the House of Representatives, I would go to the elders whom I agree with, ninety percent of the time. [SPEAKER_12]: First off, where's the bathroom? [SPEAKER_12]: That's really important to know where the public restrooms are. [SPEAKER_12]: It's a big building. [SPEAKER_12]: So first off, where's that? [SPEAKER_12]: Secondly, okay, who are the lobbyists? [SPEAKER_12]: I got a steer clear from.

[SPEAKER_12]: Who's this? [SPEAKER_12]: What are the rules? [SPEAKER_12]: What's the decorum? [SPEAKER_12]: You know, these are just basic. [SPEAKER_03]: People I need to watch out for. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: What are the tricks that if if person X is going to be a real pain in the ass? [SPEAKER_03]: What's something I know that could I maybe get them into a position where I can talk with them so they'll listen to me? [SPEAKER_12]: Right.

[SPEAKER_12]: I mean, because that that congeniality left when Banner left, basically. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of it was gone before then, too. [SPEAKER_12]: A lot of it was, but I mean, a new King Rich, I blame for most of this, but you and me both. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, Banner, Banner still tried. [SPEAKER_12]: He was ineffective, but he tried. [SPEAKER_12]: He's just smoking weed now or at least selling it. [SPEAKER_12]: Good on you, bourbon, drinker and pot smoker.

[SPEAKER_03]: There you go, John, drink off. [SPEAKER_12]: Enjoy your retirement sir. [SPEAKER_12]: But no, I mean, people like Nancy Pelosi, you know, she knows what she's doing. [SPEAKER_12]: She's very good at this and has been forever. [SPEAKER_03]: So, but she also proved the point that she knows when to step back. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: And just be a mentor to these people. [SPEAKER_12]: And so he's ready to reverse.

[SPEAKER_03]: I really wish that Cuomo had learned that lesson. [SPEAKER_03]: I really wish that a lot of Democrats, a lot more Democrats learned that lesson. [SPEAKER_03]: Not saying turn the party over to the young folks. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying step back, help guide them and make things better. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you should be doing. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, we will get onto another subject other than the New York City election.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He says, hey, they only play one hour on W-C-P-T. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why you can get the podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And, of course, you can [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we love our folks at WCG. [SPEAKER_03]: But you can bug them and see if they will play both hours of the show. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you can still get the podcast because, among other things, it helps keep food and jodys belly in mind. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's a good thing.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we like to eat and drink. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_12]: It's important. [SPEAKER_03]: It is, especially when it's good and spicy. [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, as, as the folks who know you from Bob Cesca show know, spicy jodys is a good thing. [SPEAKER_12]: It's something. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's good because today's spicy jowty you made the appearance on the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: You brought out the spice in the internet.

[SPEAKER_03]: I did. [SPEAKER_12]: I did. [SPEAKER_12]: It doesn't have to be asked spice. [SPEAKER_12]: There are things you can add or not add to the strength, but it's. [SPEAKER_03]: So you can make it as spicy as you wish. [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: It's called an LDablo. [SPEAKER_03]: Is it devil? [SPEAKER_12]: And we even, it was inspired by Warhawks like Donald, BB, George W. Dick Cheney, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_12]: So what you're going to need is a martini glass, a cocktail shaker. [SPEAKER_12]: I spent only for shaking. [SPEAKER_12]: It's not for the drink. [SPEAKER_12]: You can put the ice in the martini glass too to show the glass if you want. [SPEAKER_12]: That's a thing. [SPEAKER_03]: But you don't have to say good for drinks, but not for immigration. [SPEAKER_12]: Very true.

[SPEAKER_12]: So, booze-wise, you need one and a half ounces of quality tequila, a hundred percent agave, if you can find it and get it. [SPEAKER_12]: A half ounce of cream because cease, which is like a black current lecure, a half ounce of lime juice, two ounces or more of ginger beer depends on, you know, your taste. [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: And so, you might want to add for added spice and heat, four to six drops of bitterman's health flavor, bitter. [SPEAKER_12]: So, yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you know, you could do that. [SPEAKER_03]: I suppose in theory, I mean, you could maybe just add hot sauce. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would work too. [SPEAKER_12]: Some people do like hot sauce in that, but it bitters just is good. [SPEAKER_12]: And then a marathon of cherries for garnish. [SPEAKER_12]: Okay. [SPEAKER_12]: So what you do is you add all of the ingredients, including the bitters if you want into a cocktail shaker with with ice.

[SPEAKER_12]: And you shake it for about fifteen to twenty seconds so that the shaker feels really cold. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm so you know it's chilled then you strain that no shaker should have a strainer, but if you don't there are ways to strain. [SPEAKER_12]: You strain that into the martini glass and you top with two or more ounces of the ginger beer and the new garnish with two or more marishino cherries. [SPEAKER_03]: That's a fantastic thing.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you get spicy, you may want to not just get spicy with your words, you may want to get spicy and do things. [SPEAKER_03]: So find a volunteer group that backs your thing, whether it's win with that war or maybe your local Democratic Party, whatever happens to be indivisible. [SPEAKER_03]: If the drink does more to get you spicy than just your words, there are ways that you can take action. [SPEAKER_03]: And you should.

[SPEAKER_03]: because words are great, but action is a little bit better, quite frankly. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that a lot of people are just like, oh, a talk talk talk, well, yes, we're on the radio. [SPEAKER_12]: We don't talk, it's going to be really boring. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of silence. [SPEAKER_03]: That would not be so good. [SPEAKER_03]: But look, the fact of the matter is, people should act. [SPEAKER_03]: They should take action when they have the opportunity to do so.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I, you know, as long as it's wise action, just don't, don't act to be stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the stuff in the news on tap today is there's a lot of hot and stupid out there. [SPEAKER_03]: Senate problem tearing thankfully striking some of that stupid line. [SPEAKER_03]: She's great. [SPEAKER_03]: She's great. [SPEAKER_03]: She got rid of more garbage. [SPEAKER_03]: She stripped out the Republicans attempted to curb nationwide injunctions.

[SPEAKER_03]: She rejected offshore oil and gas drilling giveaways to big oil. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because we all know it wouldn't be this hot. [SPEAKER_03]: If big oil hadn't, you know, lied to us all these years. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and exacerbated climate change. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The Senate Parliamentary and also ruled against the Republican effort to force the postal service to sell off their new EVs. [SPEAKER_03]: Had you heard about this?

[SPEAKER_12]: I did hear about that. [SPEAKER_12]: And good. [SPEAKER_12]: I'm glad. [SPEAKER_12]: I think the more the more government agencies that use electric vehicles, the better. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Had you seen the new ones? [SPEAKER_12]: I haven't seen them yet. [SPEAKER_12]: Weirdly. [SPEAKER_12]: And I live in Los Angeles. [SPEAKER_12]: I haven't seen them yet. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen I've seen one, you know, being here in the DC area.

[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen one. [SPEAKER_03]: It looks kind of funky. [SPEAKER_03]: That's right here. [SPEAKER_03]: It's very quiet. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, there's FedEx trucks in my neighborhood that are all electric. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, I've seen FedEx. [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen Amazon. [SPEAKER_03]: I even saw a UPS truck. [SPEAKER_03]: It looked like a regular UPS truck, but it wasn't doing the typical rumble rumble rumble.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I'm, any of these trucks, any of these vehicles where they're, you know, using the electric, I'm good with that. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, me too. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's see here. [SPEAKER_03]: What else is in the news on tap today? [SPEAKER_03]: Senate parliamentarian. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're looking for a full list, we did stick one in today. [SPEAKER_03]: The Hill had a pretty good list of all the things that she has struck down.

[SPEAKER_03]: But that doesn't mean Republicans are stepping off and going away. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not giving up. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's something that people need to understand. [SPEAKER_03]: That's, you know, [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I mean, if they want to keep these in, they're fine. [SPEAKER_12]: They can be filibuster. [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead, leave them in. [SPEAKER_03]: They're still going after the government accountability organization, the GEO.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which, okay, the GAO was good. [SPEAKER_03]: The GAO is like the good version of Doge. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Because Doge was supposed to be about accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we actually, I never understood that. [SPEAKER_03]: They said that Doge was supposed to be about accountability. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet, we already have a government accountability organization. [SPEAKER_03]: That's literally what GAO stands for.

[SPEAKER_12]: And that's mandated in those wasted money and spent more money. [SPEAKER_12]: And they have yet to arrest anybody for fraud or abuse. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wish I wish the dos bags themselves would be arrested for fraud and abuse, but that's another story. [SPEAKER_03]: Just to, I don't know, maybe maybe maybe we could convince the ice folks that the dos folks are brown and they aren't supposed to be here and then anyway, whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: The immigration wars do continue unfortunately. [SPEAKER_03]: And as a Supreme Court ruled that the Trump regime may resume third country removals without court order do pass. [SPEAKER_12]: Now, one of the judges that had ruled the people that were sent to Africa, where they sent us to Sudan. [SPEAKER_03]: They were sent to, I believe, Sudan. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think. [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's sent to. [SPEAKER_03]: Was it Djibouti? [SPEAKER_12]: I, that's it, you're correct.

[SPEAKER_12]: And, but the judge of the rule that they had to come home is stating, no, they still have to come home because this ruling came down after my ruling. [SPEAKER_12]: So now Donald wants to go back, is this Supreme Court and go, hey, is this accurate? [SPEAKER_12]: It's just, I don't understand. [SPEAKER_12]: If you are sending, if you're reporting people, they're supposed to go back to where they came from unless you're a breakout Garcia who [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she didn't go back there. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you read, did you read the dissent? [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it was, was it Kagan or was it so to my ear? [SPEAKER_12]: Either one of them. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, they're both very good at dissent. [SPEAKER_03]: It was fire. [SPEAKER_03]: It was fire. [SPEAKER_03]: And basically said, look, you are giving a benefit to other people in the government who are abusing the rules or breaking the rules.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're, you're giving a bonus for doing it. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, and basically, if you're going to deport somebody to a country from where they are not

[SPEAKER_03]: from where they do not originate right exactly that's human trafficking that's not important right it's it it makes it it makes absolutely no sense and this is one of the times we will have to talk to her a little bit yeah he'll be on the house so yes well and i'm sure he's gonna have a uh... his plate full two with uh... supreme court decisions tomorrow which there are nine of them nine big ones left this term

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you and I were talking about this earlier today that that there are two ways they could do this. [SPEAKER_03]: They could stretch it. [SPEAKER_03]: They haven't till next year. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They could stretch out the nine. [SPEAKER_03]: They could go literally if they wanted to. [SPEAKER_03]: One day Thursday Friday Monday if they wanted to.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I think what they're going to do is the same thing they did either last year or the year before, which is they do kind of a gish gallop for Supreme Court stuff where they put out a bunch of really crap decisions all on the same day. [SPEAKER_03]: And in doing so, there are so much bad to talk about that some of the crap that they did [SPEAKER_03]: It falls off the news radar.

[SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: Very, I mean, just like, you know, the assassinations in Minneapolis in Minnesota, that's falling off the news. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: And that was barely a week ago. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The, the huge protests, the no kings protest, that wasn't even two weeks ago. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, that was the same. [SPEAKER_12]: It was, it was a week and a, some change ago. [SPEAKER_12]: Those things.

[SPEAKER_12]: And, and it's just because of Donald, I hate him. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you and me both, but yeah, so I my feeling my gut instinct is that that's the case. [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll talk to Harry Littman about all the legal stuff because he will be able to clear it up real quick and we will definitely be appreciative of that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: There is some other odd miscellaneous news that's kind of important as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Trump administration is now scrambling to rehire thousands of federal workers who got fired by Doge. [SPEAKER_12]: Again, what a stupid stupid stupid thing that was allowed to happen, which was not sanctioned by Congress. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was was it was it was our first week or our second week that you and I were talking about this. [SPEAKER_03]: And we said that that sure enough, it'll it'll be maybe a month.

[SPEAKER_03]: And the people who are there, the people who are left behind, we'll try to rehire the people that goes fired because those are the people who know and that's exactly what's going on. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: You're right. [SPEAKER_03]: It is absolutely stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: And the thing is is that we can call these shots. [SPEAKER_03]: Malcolm called the shot about Iran. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: He called it. [SPEAKER_03]: What did he say?

[SPEAKER_03]: A hundred and seven days before it happened. [SPEAKER_03]: We called the shot about the government rehiring the folks that don't should fire now a month ago. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just it's you can do it because these people are so dumb Donald Trump and the maggots who are in control are so dumb and so stupid and so lacking in wisdom and so arrogant and they they're trying to run the country like a hedge fund

[SPEAKER_12]: where you go and you buy something and you break it apart for the parts and you I remember when I was working for this one company that was doing industrials for a major hotel chain and that chain was bought by Blackstone [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, and so a lot of people that we had been working with were now given memos much like Elon Musk did saying, what do you do every day? [SPEAKER_12]: Why do you need three assistants? [SPEAKER_12]: Why do you need two assistants?

[SPEAKER_12]: Why do you need any? [SPEAKER_12]: And they literally had to, and then their assistants had to write down what their jobs were in order to keep their jobs. [SPEAKER_12]: And it's like, this is how things are not going to work out well. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I have, I have been the vain of different corporations that I've worked for. [SPEAKER_03]: Clear channel being one of them. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: That was another one.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, back before they were I heart to the clear channel. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's still many of the same people. [SPEAKER_03]: And. [SPEAKER_03]: They, at the complex where I worked the longest for eight years, the classic rock in the country station and the modern rock station, they tried to do some things and they tried to do them after my mentor had passed away from ALS. [SPEAKER_03]: New exactly what they were going to do.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I helped our people either get jobs or be able to get freelancing, if they got fired, and then maybe come back, there are a lot of people who were there, who were just like, man, I really hate that little guy. [SPEAKER_03]: He's just a part-timer who works like thirty hours and I said, yeah, but you know, yeah, I got you, but I couldn't have got you.

[SPEAKER_03]: If I couldn't look at you, look at your past history, look at the stupid things you've done, and know what you were going to do. [SPEAKER_03]: And all these corporations, these corporations like Blackstone, we all know what they're going to do. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, that's what Mitt Romney made his fortune doing, being capitalists. [SPEAKER_12]: It's the same. [SPEAKER_03]: It's killing off to our roast. [SPEAKER_12]: It's what Wall Street, the movie was about.

[SPEAKER_12]: It was exactly about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We all know them. [SPEAKER_03]: We all see what's coming. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, if you happen to be one of those companies, remember, they do not love you. [SPEAKER_03]: Look out for yourself. [SPEAKER_03]: Look out for the people who you care about. [SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully you will land somewhere else. [SPEAKER_03]: with a little bit better management. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_03]: All right, speaking of good management, we have somebody who is really good at managing her own podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe Joe from Cheers is coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: She is joining us here at the bar coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, we do have more news on tap. [SPEAKER_03]: There's some good albums coming out. [SPEAKER_03]: Want to discuss these as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Grab yourself another round of drinks. [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's hot out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: So stay hydrated and stay with us here at the politics bar on a Tuesday night. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: It is hot in a lot of the country, Jodi, and it's not just because America has you and Joe Carducci in it. [SPEAKER_03]: I do think that's a contributing factor. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, certain nations have hot people. [SPEAKER_03]: That's just how it is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you're listening to us on the west coast out in California, we literally get it out. [SPEAKER_03]: What about new niche? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, about elevenish. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Somewhere in that, you know, ten thirty eleven new niche kind of a thing. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're on the east coast, usually we get the news out probably around, you know, one thirty to three, something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: There was a story I did see before we came into the bar this evening. [SPEAKER_03]: New York Times is now saying that all these big huge bombs that boom, boom, donny drops actually only set Iran's nuclear program back maybe a couple of months. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_12]: That's not surprising.

[SPEAKER_03]: Everything that we've all been going through, all the worry, all the stress, all the concern, all the yelling back and forth in the media and the tweets and the posts and the [SPEAKER_03]: set it back a couple months. [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, any other thing is there's other countries that might just sell them nuclear armaments.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and the whole thing is when it comes right down to it, there are people in Iran, including some of the people who are the control their nation, who would like to see Israel wipe off the map. [SPEAKER_03]: We have to accept that. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: There are also a whole lot of other people in Iran. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of whom are also, they have some of their hands on the wheel. [SPEAKER_03]: And they would really, could care less.

[SPEAKER_03]: As long as they are able to stabilize their economy and get things going, they could really care less. [SPEAKER_03]: Just, you know, they wish that Israel would go away and leave them alone. [SPEAKER_03]: So you've got multiple groups even there. [SPEAKER_03]: But what they look at is they look at around the world, what nations have been successful with deterrence from the bigger nations, like the US, like Russia, and the nation they always look to is North Korea.

[SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Because North Korea has nooks. [SPEAKER_03]: North Korea has shown the world, hey, we have the capability to, even if it's bad capability, we have the capability to fire a nuke if we want to do. [SPEAKER_11]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And that makes everybody, including China, who is, you know, not to read his neighborhood neighbor. [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of treat them with a little bit more respect, a little bit more kid gloves, a little bit more okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna, you know, mess with them too hard because they are kind of crazy and they could do damage. [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's why Iran wants to keep the threat of it there. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: But if you talk to people like Malcolm Nance, [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, many people in Iran, including many of them who have their hands in the wheel, don't really want a nuclear weapon because they want the responsibility of dealing with it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because once they have it, they have to worry about idiots in their neighborhood. [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said the other day, trekking it off in a suitcase. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't really want it. [SPEAKER_03]: They just want everybody to treat them with a little bit more respect and not mess around with them. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, nuclear power, nuclear armed countries in general are not going to be attacked by others.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're certainly not going to be attacked with the way that, for example, Israel attacks are on or that are wrong attacks is really. [SPEAKER_03]: They attack each other. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the countries in the Middle East have a long, long history of [SPEAKER_03]: Look, before World War II, before we had the United Nations, before we had things like the EU, a lot of the European nations did the same thing that a lot of the Middle East nations do, that a lot of African nations have done, some central, American nations have done humanity as a history of, you know, stupid wars.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why we try to create things like the United Nations, like the EU to try to keep us from doing dumb things like that. [SPEAKER_03]: So I get people's concerns, but I'm also like, the biggest thing is it's a gut feeling for me. [SPEAKER_03]: And I got this gut feeling when I was in the Navy, do you know who drives the big, the great big ships in the Navy? [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know who actually has their hand on the wheel?

[SPEAKER_12]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Dex Seaman, some of the lowest ranked people in the entire Navy. [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason they have it is plausible to liability. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So that if a captain or whoever happens to be captaining the boat at the time, isn't always maybe the captain has, you know, something else somebody has to step up first mate has to step up. [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: Trying to try to get this in language that non Navy people would understand. [SPEAKER_03]: The person who has actually has their hand on the wheel on the throttle is almost always a dex demon, a lowest ranked and listed person. [SPEAKER_03]: Because if something really bad happens and somebody needs to get court-martialed, a court-martialed person who's at the bottom, because they're not going to matter all that much.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I know, because I drove one, I got my little ribbon for that when I was in the Navy. [SPEAKER_03]: And I had some great people who taught me, even though I was terribly terribly seasick. [SPEAKER_03]: You would just ask somebody, grab the wheel for you for a minute. [SPEAKER_03]: You literally run to the door, open the door. [SPEAKER_03]: Over the side, come back in and take the wheel again because that's just how that works.

[SPEAKER_03]: When you were driving a ship like that, when you were controlling a ship like that, if you want to make a really fast turn and emergency turn, [SPEAKER_03]: Depending on how big of a ship we're talking, it's anywhere from two to ten miles, making it not to make a sharp, you turn. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: People like ten miles, if you're drew, if you're doing an aircraft carrier and you want to realize your huge. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: A ship of state, like the United States, like even some of the smaller nations, when you are, when you are representing hundreds of thousands or millions of people, [SPEAKER_03]: Those are all ships of state. [SPEAKER_03]: They're big ships. [SPEAKER_03]: They do not turn on a dime. [SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of people think they do. [SPEAKER_03]: City of New York. [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you guys have an election tonight.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are people who are saying, oh, whoever gets in, if it's my candidate, they can change things like this. [SPEAKER_12]: How many million people are in New York City? [SPEAKER_12]: Like, ten million in the city. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: You're not going to change things instantly. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great big ship. [SPEAKER_03]: There's this stuff called inertia. [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to remember these things, folks, that it takes time.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I get that your hot, I get that it's summer, I get that things worry us. [SPEAKER_03]: But there are experts. [SPEAKER_03]: There are still journalists. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, mainstream journalism has a problem. [SPEAKER_03]: Independent journalism is great. [SPEAKER_03]: And independent journalism mixed with entertainment, which is what we do. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we're glad you're listening. [SPEAKER_03]: We're glad you're hanging out with us the bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: But don't get yourself hot and bothered because most things, especially when you're dealing with world politics or national politics or even state politics or even politics and big cities like LA in New York City, they take a little bit of time. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, yeah, I mean, you got a city like LA or like New York City or San Francisco Chicago, I can go on. [SPEAKER_12]: You not only see you elect a new mayor, but that person has a city council to deal with.

[SPEAKER_12]: and other people that they have to deal with in order to get stuff done. [SPEAKER_12]: And so when people go, oh, it's not fixed in a year. [SPEAKER_12]: It's like, are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and a lot of the problems that we're dealing with, whether it's here in the US or elsewhere around the world, these are problems that they back fifty, sixty, sixty, a hundred years.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some of the problems we were dealing with with racial stuff here in the United States date back literally hundreds of years and we have never properly addressed them. [SPEAKER_12]: I had an old pipe from my house to the street that was put in in the nineteen twenty and it was closed. [SPEAKER_12]: It was closed and we had we we used to have palm trees in the front of my house and I got them taken down for various reasons and [SPEAKER_12]: But I didn't know this at the time.

[SPEAKER_12]: Their roots keep growing under the ground. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't. [SPEAKER_02]: You can't grind it down. [SPEAKER_02]: The roots out. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, you can't. [SPEAKER_12]: They grow like. [SPEAKER_02]: They grow. [SPEAKER_12]: That's why they don't fall because they're roots are everywhere. [SPEAKER_12]: And so with a clay pipe, guess what was getting into my pipes? [SPEAKER_03]: The roots are my tree the pipe.

[SPEAKER_12]: And so we now have a pipe that has no, it has no seams and it cost me a small fortune to put that in. [SPEAKER_12]: But I mean, this is the stuff that's happening in Los Angeles and other cities. [SPEAKER_12]: They've got pipes that are a hundred years old. [SPEAKER_12]: They've got, you know, and that's is why we need infrastructure week Donald. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we are very glad that Joe and Kamala got a lot better than Chris.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad I'm just I'm glad that many of the things that Republicans trying to take some of that apart for example, this big ugly bill are getting taken apart as well. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm kind of I'm happy about that. [SPEAKER_03]: There is some happy news. [SPEAKER_03]: We were talking about music yesterday with Brooklyn. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we were and I don't know how how much of an R&B fan are you? [SPEAKER_12]: I like R&B.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: You remember Brandy and Monica? [SPEAKER_12]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: The boy is mine. [SPEAKER_12]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so everybody remembers the song. [SPEAKER_03]: They've done other things together and both of their music individually is is fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: They never toured together. [SPEAKER_03]: All these years like, what, twenty five thirty years that they've, they've been friends, they never toured together. [SPEAKER_03]: Guess what?

[SPEAKER_03]: They're going on tour. [SPEAKER_03]: Great. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is pretty cool. [SPEAKER_03]: I guess new album, new tour. [SPEAKER_03]: Maroon five, you know, some people like that. [SPEAKER_03]: They have a new album coming out and a new tour as well. [SPEAKER_03]: And Barbara Streisand has going to be amazing. [SPEAKER_03]: That new record this week. [SPEAKER_03]: I think that was it Friday. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's doing a bunch of things. [SPEAKER_12]: Just to match the two. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, there should be something. [SPEAKER_03]: I think I can't remember the name of the country band. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a new country band that's got an album coming out that I wanted to look at to this week. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a bunch of music that's coming out basically.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you've been looking for new music, you should probably take a look this Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: It's all. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be saying about that. [SPEAKER_03]: If you're looking for new TV, well, maybe new old TV. [SPEAKER_03]: Fox is tapped Johnny Knoxville again for a fear factor reboot. [SPEAKER_12]: Then my eyes hurt now.

[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, Johnny Knoxville isn't acquired taste and I, you know, I'm not exactly, I think because it will be on regular broadcast television and I also think because he's, you know, a little bit older now. [SPEAKER_03]: I think he'll be able to have fun as a host of a show like that, and he himself will not be doing some of the kind of things that he did on the MTV jackass show. [SPEAKER_12]: Well, I didn't show Rogan host fear factor in a show. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, he did.

[SPEAKER_03]: There we go. [SPEAKER_12]: See what Johnny wants is a hundred million people to listen to him on a podcast eventually. [SPEAKER_12]: Which I'm a hundred million. [SPEAKER_12]: Come on, let's get us up to a hundred million. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would like it if we got a hundred million. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really glad about that.

[SPEAKER_03]: If if they're not going to give us a hundred million, at least they could subscribe to the politics bar dot com, that's only six dollars a month. [SPEAKER_03]: Get you the podcast and free. [SPEAKER_03]: See. [SPEAKER_03]: See, we're not asking for a hundred million. [SPEAKER_03]: You can just subscribe that way. [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, if you're listening on the radio station, great.

[SPEAKER_03]: Get the podcast anyway because then you're not only helping us, but you can listen to it again. [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Listen to a twice. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. [SPEAKER_03]: It's things you missed. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you are going to be able to stick around with us in the bar for another couple of rounds because we have the one and the only Joe Joe from Jones coming in.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, Joe Carducci is coming in and she's going to be talking with us all about her podcast and your sub stack. [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, we want to ask her what her perspective is on the newer city mayors race because as everybody knows, a wise jersey girl always knows what's going on in New York City and Joe is definitely that. [SPEAKER_03]: Check it out. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe Carducci coming up with Joe de Hamilton and me, Sean Smith Pierce.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a Tuesday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Get something cool to drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Sit back, relax, and we'll be back with Joe Carducci. [SPEAKER_03]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a hot Tuesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: And the one, the only show cardu, G.J. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe from Jersey is in. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, you know, it's a hot day.

[SPEAKER_03]: There is hot language out there. [SPEAKER_03]: But quite frankly, you know, she knows we're on broadcast radio still. [SPEAKER_03]: She is an expert at exclusives and you know, probably the language. [SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just a little bit of spicy language. [SPEAKER_03]: We were talking as you were coming into the bar. [SPEAKER_03]: You had your birthday. [SPEAKER_03]: Happy belated birthday by the way last week.

[SPEAKER_03]: You said your your daughter's birthday was about a month ago and she's she's now a twin and a mini version of you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: My dad would be laughing and having, I'm sure my dad is laughing and having because he would be saying, you got the daughter you deserved, Joanne. [SPEAKER_04]: I was, oh my gosh, did I put my dad through hell. [SPEAKER_04]: Actually double hockey sticks, I put him through it all.

[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my God. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, look, I mean, you are, we love the fact that you're so spicy. [SPEAKER_03]: You're, you're so smart. [SPEAKER_03]: You've had so many great guests on Saneish, your podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's see, I just, I scribbled out a couple of them here. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, George Conway and Heather Cox Richardson on Together, which was great. [SPEAKER_03]: Joel Lumin, who was former deputy assistant secretary of state under President Obama.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think he also worked with Bernie Sanders at one point. [SPEAKER_03]: Rachel Vinnman, Brooklyn dad was there, Jim Acosta, [SPEAKER_03]: You got to you got to connect us with you, but the fact is you have a great podcast at saying it is it's it's and look You are your spicy but your smart you're intelligent I love I love it. [SPEAKER_03]: You know when you came here for sexy liberal a DC and we talked for like five minutes and I'm like [SPEAKER_03]: Walk away, going.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is fun. [SPEAKER_03]: She's a smart. [SPEAKER_03]: This is difficult. [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, so, okay, you're there. [SPEAKER_03]: It's your general region, your general neighborhood. [SPEAKER_03]: New York City mayors race. [SPEAKER_03]: What's your position on all that hole? [SPEAKER_04]: I am not all that's other than to say that my friends in New York, but I can actually add to this. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't want it to be Cuomo.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: That's outside of that. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a little worried. [SPEAKER_04]: about some of the candidates about what they'll signal for the party, but I think we're this thing is far from written at this point. [SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see, I mean, they're talking about maybe having five or six candidates ultimately in the right here.

[SPEAKER_04]: So, but I just, I, it's sad because for me, during COVID, Cuomo was one of those voices that I was super appreciative of. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, he was the antithesis to Trump, the antidote to Trump and Trump's, you know, insanity, because those briefings that were just off the rails, you know, injecting bleach and all that. [SPEAKER_04]: And Cuomo was talking to the people of New York in them. [SPEAKER_04]: you know, real terms and and often.

[SPEAKER_04]: So to see that like I don't know that I maybe didn't see him accurately for who he was, but I didn't see his brother for who he was until his brother decided to jump into my DMs. [SPEAKER_04]: And, uh, who? [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_04]: Nice. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I I did not I did not know that he had done that or remember maybe maybe I read maybe you wrote something about it with some point or something.

[SPEAKER_04]: I wrote about it one time on Twitter. [SPEAKER_04]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: When a lot of stuff was shaking out with what [SPEAKER_04]: Chris had done with CNN regarding his brother. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: So yeah, but outside of that, I haven't talked about it much. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm glad I'm glad my memory doesn't completely fail me, but yeah, that's that's that's not appropriate. [SPEAKER_03]: That was I'm sure very inappropriate.

[SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_04]: No, but what we've learned is with a lot of, I think this is something that these extraordinary times have sort of illuminated is that what we've learned is that a lot of these people on different sides of the aisle, so to speak, actually share of a really common narcissistic trait that I mean, it's interesting because some of the harshest critics of Trump are the most like him. [SPEAKER_04]: And we see that kind of showing it's like we had a lot.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we see the, you know, when you look at that list of the people who went to the island, shall we say, off the coast of Florida and there's Donald Trump and there's Bill Clinton and there's lefties and righties and I'm not imputing anybody here, but I'm just saying, [SPEAKER_03]: I don't understand why Bill Clinton is backing Cuomo, but Bill Clinton did a good job professionally, but personally, the man has got a lot of issues.

[SPEAKER_03]: If it wasn't for his professional, if all I knew was his personal, and I would be like, yeah, no surprise that he's back in Cuomo, and that wouldn't be a good thing. [SPEAKER_03]: So... No. [SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting to do often flock together. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, do. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: But look at Trump's administration. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like a who's who of sexual abusers. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's fascinating.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, oh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: You cannot get this job because you have not, you know, physically attacked a woman in any clothing in your life. [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: That's their DEI. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [UNKNOWN]: No, it's true. [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. [SPEAKER_03]: It's true. [SPEAKER_04]: It's true. [SPEAKER_04]: It's true. [SPEAKER_04]: It's true. [SPEAKER_04]: It's true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was all a show and we can see over the last, you know, twenty four, seventy two hours. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a freaking show. [SPEAKER_03]: Except. [SPEAKER_03]: except. [SPEAKER_03]: It also affects the actual day-to-day people who live in the region. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, this is not a show that I would like to renew. [SPEAKER_03]: Can can we please unsubscribe from that show? [SPEAKER_03]: Can can we not not ask for another season?

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, especially when you when you realize that the reason we're in season two of this nightmare. [SPEAKER_04]: And why this is happening, you know, likely vote really, I mean, it's not hard to draw the line here is because during the first season of this, you know, Mr. Carter. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: He got ripped up a deal that we had exactly wrong that was working.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_04]: It was working, you know, pretty well and they were not trying to, you know, not comply and he didn't like that Obama signature was on it. [SPEAKER_04]: He ripped it up, and here we are, for this community theater that not only has real life implications for the people in the region, but we have men and women in harm's way, based their station there, heading there, flying the airplanes that are delivering the munitions there. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't care.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're all props to him as we saw with this moment of pants parade. [SPEAKER_04]: The military doesn't have any regard for them, and it's about using them to show [SPEAKER_04]: that he has big hands. [SPEAKER_04]: He has big hands. [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't big hands mean big feet. [SPEAKER_03]: Now big feet mean big shoes. [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. [SPEAKER_04]: And he doesn't have to be any of those things. [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love your description of the parade. [SPEAKER_03]: The small and the pants parade. [SPEAKER_03]: I was copying that because it was freaking hilarious. [SPEAKER_03]: And it was even more hilarious just that the little squeak. [SPEAKER_12]: That was just so pathetic. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the writer is sometimes not doing themselves because they do exactly. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my God.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just it is he's so transparent in the way that he is such a small person. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And I just just it boggles my mind that [SPEAKER_03]: I think what bothers my mind more is the fact that so many people decided not to show up in vote.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's kind of where my concern, my big concern I think with the New York City race is the fact that I mean if people don't show up, [SPEAKER_03]: and you end up with Cuomo running and Adams running and I'm standing running and Sleewa running and and then people go, eh, I just don't want to. [SPEAKER_03]: That you're going to end up with somebody that most New Yorkers don't like and it's the biggest city in the country.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it can compound the, I mean, if you got a decent federal government, maybe they could come in and help, but I'm sorry, we don't have a decent federal government right now. [SPEAKER_03]: That's [SPEAKER_03]: And it affects everybody in the region, which is you. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, that's true. [SPEAKER_04]: It's a concept and massively consequential race.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, New York City falling into the run Adams is arguably not the best hands, but fall into the truly the wrong hands. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm worried about that in New Jersey, too, with our group in a tutorial race coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going by the way. [SPEAKER_04]: It's really just getting underway now, but now that we've settled on who the candidate is, it's Mikey Cheryl on our side.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's, she has a tough battle ahead of her. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there are graphs and graphics all over the place to show you just about every part of the country that moved red in twenty four, but New Jersey is like like flaming red. [SPEAKER_04]: Like we almost went Trump in the state of New Jersey in twenty twenty four. [SPEAKER_04]: It was marginal. [SPEAKER_04]: And you know, [SPEAKER_04]: She's a great candidate and she's fairly moderate.

[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, for Democrat, you know, at this point, but we just need that to go the right way because New Jersey falls into a public in control. [SPEAKER_04]: It's. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: We also, we also what Chris Christie happened and let's let's just say that we don't want to cross that bridge again. [SPEAKER_04]: To suit.

[SPEAKER_04]: I find my tagline and my whole thing was because my whole thing one of the things I say so often about Chris Christie is the eighth of the meat loaf. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you guys remember that story. [SPEAKER_04]: We're trying to brag about Chris Christie coming to the White House and Donald Trump said you have to have the meat loaf. [SPEAKER_04]: Chris, he doesn't like meat loaf. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't eat meat loaf. [SPEAKER_04]: And what is Chris Christie doing?

[SPEAKER_04]: And to me, like this is what this was a person who lost every shred and ounce of integrity, basically not just when he did that, but in the service of Trump. [SPEAKER_04]: We see this so often. [SPEAKER_04]: And then by the time he wanted to turn around and write, we criticize him for me, that ship had sailed. [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you almost died trying to get a reelected because he had to hope it. [SPEAKER_04]: He didn't tell you it'd go.

[SPEAKER_04]: But when you're rubbing him for the debate. [SPEAKER_03]: No, you're right. [SPEAKER_03]: You're a hundred percent right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I [SPEAKER_03]: Chris Christie is one of those stories where I, I look at it and I say, if he, you would, you would have thought based on everything that his public persona was that he had the courage to stand up to somebody like Trump and yet like you said, he ate the meal of.

[SPEAKER_04]: Not only that, he put Kushner's dad behind bars again, deservedly. [SPEAKER_04]: I apologize though, I meant to say our new ambassador to France. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: This is where we are now. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_04]: But yet, Christie put his dad behind bars because his dad tried to set up his brother-in-law. [SPEAKER_04]: with a prostitute because he didn't want his brother to law and his sister to testify against him.

[SPEAKER_04]: And so he sent his sister or threatened to send his sister a video of her husband cheating on him in hotel room with the prostitute that he sent. [SPEAKER_04]: This is the Kushner family tree. [SPEAKER_04]: But you're right about Chris Christie. [SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know we don't want to go off in Chris Christie tan because he's pretty irrelevant. [SPEAKER_04]: Now, but it does speak to the larger systemic rot.

[SPEAKER_04]: in the Republican Party, where they all, hello, Marco Rubio, Lindsey Graham and Cruz, where they all

[SPEAKER_04]: whole whatever is left of their spines out of their backs and put it up on the table and auction it off like it on eBay because they think in some way shape or form that that's the better bet that's the calculated move that will somehow put them on top of mount oligarch and the thing is it's not you're you're only going to get so far and then he's going to turn on you like he does everybody else and then everything Trump touches dies and folks there's a long list of names we can add that to

[SPEAKER_12]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Amen. [SPEAKER_03]: I also, I also look at it in terms of what you mentioned earlier that some of the people in some of the people who've been around in the Republican Party and some of the people who've been around in the Democratic Party, they know each other, they know they have some of the same contacts. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying wholesale.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are some people out there who saying wholesale, we should throw it every single Democrat and I don't think that's the case. [SPEAKER_03]: But I do think their needs to be [SPEAKER_03]: Some new blood. [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think it needs to be, you know, anyone new. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it needs to be some smart choices, but yes, I do think a lot of the people who've been around a long time need to step.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, [SPEAKER_03]: celebration.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to, they're going to fracture because Donald Trump is the only one who can hold that party together. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't, they're not going to rally around JD Vance. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: He's still JV Vance for me. [SPEAKER_03]: He will always be Junior varsity Lee. [SPEAKER_03]: He's not going to be serious. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to rally around, you know, Mike Pence won't be able to come back.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, there's nobody that they have on their side. [SPEAKER_03]: that they can get to rally around Donald Trump is seventy nine at some point in the foreseeable future. [SPEAKER_03]: He will do to age most likely go away. [SPEAKER_03]: And when he does, the Republican Party hasn't thought that far ahead. [SPEAKER_04]: There's very strategic in some things, right? [SPEAKER_04]: They have learned how to like adapt, put literally, turn themselves inside out.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they've done it a couple of times, Southern strategies. [SPEAKER_04]: One example, but like Donald Trump, they have now become a cult of personality. [SPEAKER_04]: This is why, to your point, no one is going to be marching into the capital flying Ted. [SPEAKER_04]: Cruz's flag, it's just like Galmerkin's Cruz is just not going to get the ladies to line up for him. [SPEAKER_04]: Right. [SPEAKER_12]: You're absolutely right.

[SPEAKER_12]: Donald has charisma for I don't I don't see it, but obviously he does or people wouldn't be for swing group of people. [SPEAKER_12]: He's got to be exactly exactly exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying for some people it just stays with him. [SPEAKER_04]: forever and ever. [SPEAKER_04]: And then they just get used to it. [SPEAKER_04]: And then next thing you know, you're on a date and you've got to tell somebody about it. [SPEAKER_04]: That's not a personal story.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I'm hoping that. [SPEAKER_03]: Joe, can we, can we hold you over for a final call here at the politics bar? [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and then I'm going to read it. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely do not want to end on gonorrhea. [SPEAKER_03]: Show Cartoon cheat. [SPEAKER_03]: Show Joe from jerseys. [SPEAKER_03]: Hangin' around with us for one more round. [SPEAKER_03]: You guys hang around too. [SPEAKER_03]: Here are the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: Seriously, get yourself something to drink. [SPEAKER_10]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_06]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_02]: It is a Tuesday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully it's cooling off a little bit wherever you happen to be. [SPEAKER_03]: It is hot in about two thirds of the country, although as I noted earlier, I credit the heat in the bar to the fact that I get to hang out tonight with Joey Hamilton and Joe Carducci.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that's where I happen to be at. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you are somewhere else. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, you can always listen to us on all of our great affiliates or if you missed any of the show.

[SPEAKER_03]: just go to your favorite podcast player type in the politics bar and you will get us in your years talking about all kinds of things including okay so um the stupid flag thing that the big flag pull thing have you guys seen pictures yet of of the White House now with these giant flag bulls. [SPEAKER_04]: There's this gotty [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's it's giving used car dealership. [SPEAKER_04]: It's. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's giving.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'll need just one of those wavy hand guys out in front of it doing. [SPEAKER_04]: I think it has one. [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's called Jason Miller. [SPEAKER_04]: Or Steven Miller Miller Miller. [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe Peter Navarro. [SPEAKER_03]: There's there's a whole list of those wavy guys like that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they're to empty no brains for just full of hot air. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm flailing in the wind. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I want your attention. [SPEAKER_03]: So he goes out there. [SPEAKER_03]: For those of you here, the bar who may have missed it. [SPEAKER_03]: So Donald Trump is tearing up the rose garden. [SPEAKER_03]: He's making it a patio. [SPEAKER_03]: And I put these giant flag poles out there now. [SPEAKER_03]: So he can say, I've got the biggest flag out there, which is stupid.

[SPEAKER_03]: And as the workmen were installing it, Donald decided to go out and basically do an immigration check. [SPEAKER_03]: A papers, please check. [SPEAKER_03]: on the guys who were installing the flagpole. [SPEAKER_03]: Like Secret Service hadn't checked their credentials. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I mean, you can't get anywhere near the president of the United States without a serious background check.

[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, and then he's out there and he's he's bragging to these guys who are putting us up about how big his pole is. [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, and he said he couldn't say the word erect because it would have been trouble. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we all know from Stormy Daniel's description that he can't say the word erect for a lot. [SPEAKER_04]: He can't do the word erect. [SPEAKER_04]: He can't do the word erect.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not alone say the word erect, but I mean, like, I mean, it's like, hello, paving Dr. Freud. [SPEAKER_04]: No kid. [SPEAKER_10]: This is about this. [SPEAKER_04]: As a thing could be, I mean, tell me you're not telling on yourself when you wrecked giant lag pools where there's plenty of flags by the way, no one's looking at the White House one. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, I wonder what that place's affiliation is.

[SPEAKER_04]: I wonder, let's find a way to put a, maybe they should put a flag at your right. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, a flag that would stretch from New Jersey to Washington DC. [SPEAKER_04]: And again, the thing about Donald Trump is he always tells on himself because he's over compensating again for the fact that he has a teeny, tiny mushroom pain. [SPEAKER_04]: I can say that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he can. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: He's compensating for that, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: With these massive erections. [SPEAKER_04]: I hope I can do that. [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he can. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_04]: But what is also telling on himself about is that he thinks it's bigger as better when it comes to patriotism than a giant flag will somehow absolve him of the sins of trying to violently overthrow our government with you know with rabid mob of of crazy again. [SPEAKER_04]: pop-up gallows erecting lunatics.

[SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, oh, but if I distract everybody with these two, gotty flags, they won't think about the fact that guys coming into the rotunda with Confederate flags and my flags. [SPEAKER_04]: We're doing that in the service of me. [SPEAKER_04]: So I could stay in the office, I had just lost. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's like he's always telling himself, he can't help it. [SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't, he doesn't have any nuance. [SPEAKER_04]: He's nice.

[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there's no layers. [SPEAKER_04]: The guy's not a nine layer dip piece. [SPEAKER_04]: He's like sour cream in a bowl that's been sitting out in a pot car and Arizona suns. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: He said, yeah, definitely not something that you would want to take in. [SPEAKER_03]: I, in any way, shape, reformer. [SPEAKER_03]: And fortunately, we all have to be surrounded by him for however long he happens to have the job.

[SPEAKER_03]: I am hoping that Democrats can get in. [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely, I would love to see Democrats take back the house. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe they, there is still a chance that they could take back the Senate. [SPEAKER_03]: And that would be a lot of fun because he would be so screwed eight ways from Sunday. [SPEAKER_03]: And you know he'd be limited extremely so and we wouldn't have to worry about that and we don't have to deal with two years of this insanity.

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I will say, you know, you're right about this sort of intimidating that there's a slim slim very slim path to the Senate, but I would also sort of just posit that we don't have to have the Senate even though I'd love it if we just get the house. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_04]: I think about how much they can obstruct [SPEAKER_04]: He's awfulness. [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, really, that's the thing. [SPEAKER_04]: It's like, yeah, that house.

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's like, there are a lot of power in terms of really putting a check on the executive. [SPEAKER_04]: And so while I would love to have both, I mean, I will take just the house if I have to. [SPEAKER_04]: And a number there look a whole lot better, but that's your point about how long the thing about this White House remodel, and it's not as just destroying it. [SPEAKER_04]: He said it doesn't seem like he plans on leaving.

[SPEAKER_04]: You don't mean like you just you don't dig up Jackie's grass when you're like, I only have a few years here. [SPEAKER_04]: I might as well just leave it because I don't have a problem with grass. [SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like he puts his Trump name on every piece of property that he has and I don't think you and I you and I have to disagree on this one though, because I don't think that's [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he thinks of it as, you know, I'm gonna be here forever.

[SPEAKER_03]: He thinks of it in the same way as he does all of his properties, which is, they just belonged to me. [SPEAKER_03]: And the people who are there just do whatever I want. [SPEAKER_12]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: He has fought, I live for three and a half years I lived down in West Palm Beach. [SPEAKER_03]: And there are all kinds of fights.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are still fights, constant perpetual fights since he took ownership of Marolago, because Marolago happens to be a, [SPEAKER_03]: historical place, it's got all type of historical registries, which of course give him tax breaks, et cetera. [SPEAKER_03]: There are certain things that he can and can't do. [SPEAKER_03]: So he is constantly fighting with the local authorities. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet his attitude is always, I can do what I want at his course in New Jersey.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you've probably heard stories about that where he does the same thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that he thinks he's going to be there forever. [SPEAKER_03]: He just thinks, it's mine. [SPEAKER_03]: I can do whatever I want. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't he doesn't plan. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like he's planning. [SPEAKER_03]: He just he goes fine. [SPEAKER_03]: I want a patio here because I have a patio at Mara logo and I have a patio in Jersey.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I want a patio because I where where I am, I need a patio. [SPEAKER_03]: And what is the what is the point of that? [SPEAKER_03]: It's comforting to him, I guess. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but it. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I just don't think he's I don't think he thinks long term. [SPEAKER_04]: But you nailed it too when you said, you know, with all his properties, it's also about feeding his narcissistic ego, right?

[SPEAKER_04]: So there's like two things going on with a narcissist is like that he needs to have as ego stoked all the time, because it's he's accommodating for the deep insecurities that even he doesn't necessarily consciously understand or there. [SPEAKER_04]: So like if he slaps his big giant name on every one of his towers and he feels, you know,

[SPEAKER_04]: like he is somebody that he is big and if he can dig up grass in a garden that has reverence because it is historic because it has been passed down from president to president and taken care of and you know we're respected in that way if he can dig that up and put his name on it by making it a patio that forever generations are then going to happen to be like that's Trump's patio we don't have to keep it once we get once somebody else is there they can rip it back up and replant the rose garden

[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the whole. [SPEAKER_04]: I want the whole. [SPEAKER_04]: Mark Russell. [SPEAKER_04]: Come on. [SPEAKER_04]: Well, the new Avengers movie. [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you guys saw this and I and anybody who hasn't seen it yet and anyone who hasn't seen it yet. [SPEAKER_04]: And anyone who hasn't seen it, Captain America movie, haven't seen it yet. [SPEAKER_04]: Look, don't listen right now. [SPEAKER_04]: Just for one second.

[SPEAKER_04]: There's a scene that I cried watching where the red hole was Harrison Ford actually. [SPEAKER_04]: It is destroys the rose garden and part of the West Wing. [SPEAKER_04]: And it was so close to home. [SPEAKER_04]: And I started crying in the now. [SPEAKER_04]: It's happening. [SPEAKER_04]: Trump is the red hole. [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm like, oh my god. [SPEAKER_04]: Only night nearly as big or strong. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and it's not Harrison Ford under that.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's, you know, it's a bunch of, at a roll. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and a lot of stuff. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, at a roll. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I hope. [SPEAKER_03]: Make it on a board.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's, it's, you know, I'm also looking at in terms exactly like you noticed, Jodi, because when we get somebody else in there, I am, I'm not, I'm not looking past what we've got now, because we, we have to deal with the reality of the ugly reality, whatever it is that it comes through the pipe now. [SPEAKER_03]: But that said, I am looking beyond. [SPEAKER_03]: And I am, a lot of stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got the Supreme Court is going to do some, you know, rule on some stupid things. [SPEAKER_03]: They've had a whole bunch of stupid rulings already. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're going to do more stupid rulings the rest of this week. [SPEAKER_03]: We know that. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have Harry Litman in tomorrow to talk about those.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not getting as worked up about some of this stuff as I used to because I've been reminded recently that we have [SPEAKER_03]: We have done some really stupid things in the past, like Plesy. [SPEAKER_03]: And yet we came back from decisions like that. [SPEAKER_03]: We have had some horrible, horrible presidents. [SPEAKER_03]: And we have come back from things like that. [SPEAKER_03]: So to say, oh, my God, it's the end.

[SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't mean that we should let things go. [SPEAKER_03]: But it also means you go, okay, well, that sucks. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you look for the places you can make wins and you can move forward. [SPEAKER_03]: Like like the no kings. [SPEAKER_12]: Rallies. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, they were rallies, they're afraid. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you went to one, yeah, Joe. [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't. [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't because you were busy. [SPEAKER_04]: No, I wasn't busy.

[SPEAKER_04]: My twelve-year-old daughter, we talked about it, and she started crying. [SPEAKER_04]: And said, I'm afraid that they'll kill you. [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no, first time that she Abby has expressed concern would be when we woke up the day after the election. [SPEAKER_04]: The first phone call I got was from my daughter who was crying.

[SPEAKER_04]: and said for friends, we're sending her messages about how her mom was going to have to move to a foreign country because they were going to kill me if I didn't. [SPEAKER_04]: So Abby has this this this is a terrible commentary on where we are. [SPEAKER_04]: And so what we did was we made signs at home. [SPEAKER_04]: And we start in our driveway and we we held our signs for people driving by the kids.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I, you know, I want to model participation in democracy, but and I don't want to model pure motivating choices, however, we have to be real here about, you know, what our kids are feeling in our kids.

[SPEAKER_04]: are really sort of bearing the brunt of so much of the cruelty right now that I think people don't recognize what is being done to our younger generation and the distrust and mistrust it's sewing into them generationally but also the fear why are they afraid of their government afraid that their government will kill their mom or take their friends or take their friends

[SPEAKER_04]: parents or the guy who makes the pizza or the guy who drives the bus with their neighbor like this people don't sleep on this because this is traumatizing an entire generation of young people and like that is worth taking note of and it's going to be the work of a lot of of us to make sure that we help hold their hands through that because it's like he's so cool.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're so objectively unabashedly unapologetically unrelenteless and relentlessly not unrelentlessly cruel. [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel for our kids, it scares me. [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I'm so sorry to hear that. [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, my mom was worried about me, but I was like, Mom, I'm, I will text you when I get home. [SPEAKER_04]: I hate that your mom was worried about you, but I love that your mom was worried about you because your mom is a national treasure.

[SPEAKER_04]: He raised her daughter to be a badass. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she was happy. [SPEAKER_12]: I was going, but she was concerned because, you know, for right, but I didn't go downtown and that was fine. [SPEAKER_12]: I was in my neighborhood and they were about six or seven thousand people in this little corner by my house. [SPEAKER_12]: And it was amazing. [SPEAKER_12]: Wow. [SPEAKER_12]: That's great. [SPEAKER_12]: Glad that I went.

[SPEAKER_03]: Look, the courage, the courage that was shown even by you standing in your driveway. [SPEAKER_03]: It's, that's the kind of courage that we do need to model. [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, having, having nephews who are now one of them's twenty five going to get married here at this fall. [SPEAKER_03]: And he occasionally will catch me off guard and he'll text me and her message me.

[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I know that he respects me and I know that he looks up to me because I have stood up to all kinds of these things. [SPEAKER_03]: So, by you showing courage like that, Joe, by all of a show and courage, you and me, Joe, you going out to those rallies, that actually is teaching the next generation what they need to know. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad for that. [SPEAKER_12]: No, but I understand why you stay at home, Joe, it makes complete another sense.

[SPEAKER_12]: You're a good mommy. [SPEAKER_03]: totally. [SPEAKER_03]: She's a fantastic mom and she's also a fantastic podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: So you should definitely listen to her podcast. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, whenever you possibly can or you can go to her sub stack as well. [SPEAKER_03]: So check out same as for Joe Carducci or go to sub stack type in Joe Carducci or Joe Joe from Jersey. [SPEAKER_03]: You'll find it there tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_03]: We've got Harry Litman talking about whatever stupid Supreme Court says. [SPEAKER_03]: and Bob Cesca. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that will be awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: It will be a good day and you should join us. [SPEAKER_03]: Join us here tomorrow night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Have a good evening. [SPEAKER_03]: Drive home safe. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you guys.