Finding Silver Linings June 27, 2025

[SPEAKER_04]: It's political. [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, radical. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, good Lord, Jodie, you I need a drink. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, we have one. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, good. [SPEAKER_03]: We have several of them, actually. [SPEAKER_03]: We do have a lot. [SPEAKER_08]: You can just go to those pages and then you can get yourself good and hammered for the weekend. [SPEAKER_03]: First, first, first, we have to talk to all the people and help them get informed today.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then I am very definitely going to have at least one drink because [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just say that I'm kind of glad that we're in a space where I can't cuss because after today and after the supremely unjust court, the supremely illegitimate unjust court, six people who couldn't count their eyeballs and get the same number twice. [SPEAKER_03]: If it was, if it was, let's just say if this wasn't the radio, you'd pretty much hear [SPEAKER_08]: No, you hear that on the radio.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, I suppose yeah, sure without the beeps space. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would that would be it would be two hours of me going. [SPEAKER_08]: Just one long beep. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry if I just set off your whether alarms their folks, but [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the Supreme Court is, yes, it is the number one story of the day because these people don't care about the law and they pretty much took a hammer to the role of law at least six of them did today. [SPEAKER_03]: But there is still some good news in all of this today. [SPEAKER_03]: And there is other news other than Supreme Court.

[SPEAKER_03]: I realized that, you know, fat asses like Thomas and dumb asses like Alito think that the universe revolves around them. [SPEAKER_03]: But I have a little thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I call altered gravity and it does not actually revolve around them. [SPEAKER_03]: It devolves around them. [SPEAKER_03]: And someday they will be dead and buried and we can all cheer about that. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not asking you to do anything. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying they're old.

[SPEAKER_03]: That'll be off the court soon. [SPEAKER_08]: No, but not before dawn after Donald leaves. [SPEAKER_03]: Even if it's still he just replace him with some other jerk.

[SPEAKER_03]: I I am still in the mode that we need to expand the court to the point where we can immediately and as soon as we have things enough that we can expand the court and we have the right people in there, we should immediately go in and wipe out every single one of these bad bad decisions that these people made. [SPEAKER_03]: And then say, well, you did it your way. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll do it our way. [SPEAKER_03]: You want to play like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's that's in my neighborhood. [SPEAKER_03]: That's that's kind of how we did it. [SPEAKER_03]: What somebody wanted to play eventually after we were patient. [SPEAKER_03]: We said you won't do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And after they got there asked what usually didn't do anymore. [SPEAKER_03]: So there you go.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so for those people who do not quite understand all the hubbub, there was six decisions today and they have a way of labeling them in legal stuff, but some lawyers don't make it easy for you to understand. [SPEAKER_03]: So let me go through the cases and help you understand them, help everybody here in the bar understand them. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, welcome to the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: We are glad we are, I apologize for being so rude this evening, but my frustration got the better of me and it shouldn't have. [SPEAKER_03]: We are on some great affiliates out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: America one radio online at Atlanta WCPT eight twenty AM in Chicago AM nine fifty in Minneapolis Saint Paul the detour talk radio in Tennessee and progressive voices radio on tune in wherever you happen to be and of course if you're listening to us on the podcast telefeuture people make sure to subscribe the politics bar dot com [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so, Jody, here are the six cases that they had today. [SPEAKER_03]: They all have nicknames, this should help a little bit.

[SPEAKER_03]: The big injunction birthright case is shortened to CASA. [SPEAKER_07]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Because of course. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because they're one of the plaintiffs to the case. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: The ACA protective coverage case, that was the one about, do we get to keep coverage for getting protective coverage for things like mammograms and stuff in the ACA? [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: That case was braidwood.

[SPEAKER_10]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: The LGBTQ books for kids' case was my mood. [SPEAKER_03]: The phone and internet subsidy for the poor was FCC. [SPEAKER_03]: The age checks on porn sites was free speech versus Paxton and the redistricting and equal protection case was KLA. [SPEAKER_03]: So six cases, Kasa, Brad Wood, my mood, FCC, free speech versus Paxton and KLA. [SPEAKER_03]: Got it. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: The big one, the big ugly, stinking nasty honking one was Casa today.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that was surprisingly, normally the way they do it is is they build up. [SPEAKER_03]: They get some of the cases, the lower cases, and then they do the big final one at the end. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: But remember I said I think that they were trying to gish gallop and I think they did a spectacularly bad gish gallop in the sense that they put the biggest ugliest most disgusting case first.

[SPEAKER_03]: And then they put the other cases out and the other cases weren't actually that bad. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean a couple of them were good. [SPEAKER_03]: couple of them were good. [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, if you want to get to you want to read up stories and see some clips of some legal experts, we have got the news on tap today at the politics bar dot politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, the politics bar dot com. [SPEAKER_03]: I can say that ten times fast.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's there in our news on tap section today. [SPEAKER_03]: And we did get out to a few legal experts, but they were all like, let's act them. [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, I have to write this up. [SPEAKER_03]: What did Chris, Chris Gider, who is one of the, we'll see if we can maybe get Chris Gider out here next week. [SPEAKER_03]: Chris and Ellie Chris said, this was five hundred and five pages of opinions today.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely off the charts level of bad, but the first case. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so Casa, I was messaging back and forth to with Steve Flatic, another legal expert out there. [SPEAKER_03]: And so what they ruled today in the case about the [SPEAKER_03]: national ejection slash birthright citizenship. [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, they basically came out and said, Barrett is the one who had wrote the opinion for the court.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was a six three decision as you would think it was six people who can't see straight and three people who actually know what the law is. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, and but it was interesting that the first thing she came out and said was this isn't about birthright citizenship and we're not deciding that now. [SPEAKER_03]: Which that's exactly what I believe Harry said. [SPEAKER_03]: I think Glenn said something similar.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think Ellie has said something similar. [SPEAKER_03]: I think pretty much every legal expert that we've had has said something similar. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to touch the birth or I says, and should not today. [SPEAKER_03]: Not today. [SPEAKER_03]: Because if they try to go at it, it's going directly at the Fourteenth Amendment and the Fourteenth Amendment makes it very, very clear.

[SPEAKER_03]: And Trump's [SPEAKER_03]: little executive order on that. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but the the constitution trumps that for the amendment from says, well, yeah, I mean, if they want to overturn an amendment like they did with prohibition, a new amendment has to supersede that I could do that sure sure they could do that, but what they were addressing as we've mentioned to you guys here hanging out on the bar was the the right to a nationwide injunction.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so what they did was they made it spectacularly difficult to have a nationwide injunction. [SPEAKER_03]: For at least in previous previous two today, prior to today, [SPEAKER_03]: If a federal court judge needed to make a nationwide injunction, and the reason that they would make a nationwide injunction, basically, is also, it just stops things. [SPEAKER_03]: It stops the court.

[SPEAKER_03]: It stops if an executive order comes down or a law comes down and says, you should do this. [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody should stand on their head and girl peanut butter. [SPEAKER_03]: And a federal judge would say, no, that's a nationwide injunction, because we need to get some clarity on this. [SPEAKER_03]: We need to get whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: Isn't that what a pellet courts are for?

[SPEAKER_03]: kind of yeah, and it's it's one of the things that they would do because if you have an appellate court in say Texas, where that jackass judgecas mark is been trying to kill abortion and then you have another winning California that's pretty good and then you have another one over here and another one over there and they're each saying different things.

[SPEAKER_03]: You have nationwide injunctions, so that businesses and schools and state and local governments have a singular set of rules upon which to operate. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the ACA, it's out there. [SPEAKER_03]: And most people love the ACA and they should. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we can still do better than that. [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact of the matter is the ACA was not one of those things that was signed in the law and immediately overnight. [SPEAKER_03]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's all done. [SPEAKER_03]: Everything's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: There was a rollout time. [SPEAKER_03]: And during that time, there were what's the word injunctions. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They couldn't do certain things because businesses and governments at all levels need to have stability. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't need to have chaos.

[SPEAKER_03]: They would need to have stability so that they can make the rules so that they can take care of all the people that they are responsible for. [SPEAKER_03]: But there are, was it? [SPEAKER_03]: Ninety-four federal districts, six hundred and eighty-four district court judges, something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now all of law is, as Justice Kataji Brown Jackson said, in the arguments for Casa, she said, this is basically going to turn the rule of law into America, into a catch me if you can kind of a law, or as I term it, an F you make me law. [SPEAKER_03]: which is basically exactly what they've done now. [SPEAKER_03]: So as legal experts Steve Latic said, this did not kill nationwide injunctions. [SPEAKER_03]: You may still have a nationwide injunction with a class action.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now it's going to make it harder to get injunctions and harder to certify class actions. [SPEAKER_03]: But as I mentioned to him earlier today online, I said, literally the way this case works is every person is now basically out for themselves. [SPEAKER_03]: And there can be different applications of law possible, literally with persons who are right next door to them. [SPEAKER_03]: And he responded, unless courts start certifying more class actions, that will be the case.

[SPEAKER_08]: So, in the, for instance, with Kismaric and Miffopristone, were with the, the judge down in Florida, who said mask mandates nationwide were bad. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: We can go after those as well. [SPEAKER_08]: Those are no longer national injunctions. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, Kismaric was overruled by it. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: But what, what, what the thing is is we can go back into courts now and we can attack things like judge Kismaric's ruling, [SPEAKER_03]: We can dissolve all of their orders. [SPEAKER_03]: We can pass gun bands. [SPEAKER_03]: Your your local mayor or your governor can decide they want to have an executive order as a gun band and they are going to come around and collect all the AR-fifteen's. [SPEAKER_03]: You don't like it. [SPEAKER_03]: Go for it.

[SPEAKER_03]: But you have to sue me right after you sue me. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they're basically making executive orders law. [SPEAKER_03]: They're trying to make executive orders law, but of course they haven't fully removed all of the courts. [SPEAKER_03]: So immediately, well, what happened is let's say that somebody puts out a mask ban like that or a religious exception, but religious exceptions only apply to the plaintiffs now.

[SPEAKER_03]: They don't apply to everybody just to those particular people who are applying. [SPEAKER_03]: Environmental regulations will continue to be enforced, but not necessarily against the plaintiffs who are [SPEAKER_03]: This goes both ways in other words. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: The Kaz Mark thing is a perfect example. [SPEAKER_03]: So he could say, oh, nationwide injunction. [SPEAKER_03]: And he could say, nope.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because he can't, first of all, he can't just do an nationwide injunction. [SPEAKER_03]: But they would have to have a class action suit on this. [SPEAKER_03]: So first they have to certify a class. [SPEAKER_03]: Then there's a class action lawsuit. [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be big enough that it's outside of this. [SPEAKER_03]: And what the ruling on the court said is, well, even if you try to do that, you have to limit it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it can be limited to a class of people or to a geographic area. [SPEAKER_03]: Getting nationwide injunctions is going to be a lot harder. [SPEAKER_03]: But what it also means is if the left fires back at the right, at the same way the right has fired the left, then we can cut them off at all kinds of passes too. [SPEAKER_03]: So fine, you want to have the law of that way, fine. [SPEAKER_03]: The law will be different in Pennsylvania and New Jersey and New York.

[SPEAKER_03]: The law will be different in Georgia and Florida and the law could be different in different counties in Georgia. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's what I mean. [SPEAKER_08]: As far as supreme court decisions, it's just like dobs. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is, um, it's as bad in some ways as dobs, in fact, in some ways it's actually worse. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it is, because I mean, dobs is about one specific thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And this is about everything. [SPEAKER_03]: This, this takes the rule of law and takes a sledgehammer to it and fractures it. [SPEAKER_03]: So the law basically now, if you have enough money or enough legal power or enough fire power. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: for whatever your side is, it's, if you make me. [SPEAKER_03]: Because this court said, well, that's the way we can do it. [SPEAKER_03]: So, welcome back. [SPEAKER_03]: There is more to this.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are more discussions and there's more positive talk. [SPEAKER_03]: There is some good news today out there. [SPEAKER_03]: We will get all of that to you. [SPEAKER_03]: Get yourself a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, sit down. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll straighten out more this for you. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Friday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Hang on. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is a Friday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Jody and I are not lawyers. [SPEAKER_03]: We do not play them on the radio. [SPEAKER_03]: It just happened to be people who have read up from a lot of legal stuff today. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of legal opinions. [SPEAKER_03]: That's some great legal minds out there. [SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, we've messaged with a few of them as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of them were very busy today writing up their own stuff and getting on to some podcasts of their own. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, if you are looking for a podcast, we recommend you sign up for [SPEAKER_03]: It's bar.com. [SPEAKER_03]: Just six bucks a month gets you the podcast ad free. [SPEAKER_03]: Get your drink the day and news on tap and all of that. [SPEAKER_03]: And hey, the news on tap is free. [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't have to pay for that. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, if you want to toss a six bucks a month, it would help because then, you know, you'll be buying us a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Which is a nice thing to do. [SPEAKER_08]: Very nice, especially today. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Wow. [SPEAKER_03]: I think all the good people should be bought drinks by all the evil people, but their evil people. [SPEAKER_03]: So if they were good, they would have already bought us a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So more about this particular case. [SPEAKER_03]: This is the Casa case, the National Enjunction, National Enjunction, Birthright case. [SPEAKER_03]: According to Supreme Court, they've now given a thirty day window before this goes into full effect. [SPEAKER_03]: And at that point, Trump can start putting into effect his version of what he thinks this should be.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now remember, they still said that the Fourteenth Amendment, they're not, they haven't, they haven't changed yet. [SPEAKER_03]: So Trump will try to do this and people, of course, will immediately sue. [SPEAKER_03]: But because they've fractured the rule of law, you will now have states who will call special sessions of their legislature. [SPEAKER_03]: They will bring them into effect.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they will say, the immigration laws are as it is and Trump's little executive order is no-envoyed. [SPEAKER_03]: It means nothing here in this state. [SPEAKER_03]: So you could literally have two states next to each other where one state, you're a citizen or your child is a citizen. [SPEAKER_03]: You step across the line and you're not.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the whole reason, by the way, for nationwide injunctions is that we don't have stupid ass stuff like this. [SPEAKER_03]: How much of the stuff that we buy comes from truckers? [SPEAKER_08]: Hello, everything. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right. [SPEAKER_03]: At one point or other, almost everything we buy comes from truckers of some kind. [SPEAKER_03]: Truckers drive through all kinds of states and territories.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if they're in North America, they can go from Mexico through to Canada. [SPEAKER_03]: So literally countries. [SPEAKER_03]: But now, because of this stupid ass ruling, there will be some truckers who can drive in some states and not others. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of them will have to go long way around because you see in this state they're a citizen and in that state they're not.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm letting it sink in for some of you out there because this is one of the reasons why when we tell you [SPEAKER_03]: that you need to vote for good people, and that you need to vote for people who will put good people on the Supreme Court, people who quite frankly understand the law, people who right now tend to lean liberal. [SPEAKER_03]: This is why you needed to get off your ass last fall and go vote for Kamala and go vote for Tim. [SPEAKER_03]: So I go vote for Democrats.

[SPEAKER_08]: I have a question. [SPEAKER_08]: So with this ruling, [SPEAKER_08]: say you were born here now there's there the Donald's thing was about if you were born here to undock anybody undocumented or both parents like regard I think it's one parent undocumented it's yeah it's it's kind of weird and of course because to me if you're born to a US citizen [SPEAKER_08]: You're a U.S. [SPEAKER_08]: citizen. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or if you're born on U.S. [SPEAKER_08]: oil on U.S. [SPEAKER_08]: But let's just say, so he's saying if even just one parent is undocumented, but the other one is a U.S. [SPEAKER_08]: citizen by birth or by whatever. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: But he's just generationally, they came over on the freaking Mayflower kind of thing. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: So they are, they are as US citizen is, you can possibly be.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm a daughter of the Mayflower, by the way. [SPEAKER_08]: There's no plaque or anything, but I could probably get one. [SPEAKER_08]: Anyway, so say the father is the citizen and the mother is the undocumented person. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: So the child is born and there are twenty-five years old now. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: And they want to get a passport. [SPEAKER_03]: It's going to affect all of these things.

[SPEAKER_08]: Because it means a passport is a national thing. [SPEAKER_08]: So. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And because of the way that they're allowing Stephen Miller and Tom Homan to abuse these, this idea of who was a citizen. [SPEAKER_03]: The other, here's the other thing. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the rules that we have that they want to say is the right wants to say is, you know, well, it's different if you're a citizen.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it would be if the rules of citizenship were set. [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're saying that somebody else can determine how much someone is of a citizen, [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, this person is more of a citizen than that person. [SPEAKER_03]: Then that starts to change who can get what rights? [SPEAKER_10]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_03]: That's, it is when, when they talk about in laws, slippery slope, that that's, that's it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, we're definitely going to have to bring in Chris Geiner on this or, because I know that when you, when you apply for your passport, you just need your birth certificate. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Which says where you were born.

[SPEAKER_03]: which says that but now they've even started to go after uh... didn't put that this one in the news on tap today but they're starting to go after uh... americans who were born on military bases with their uh... milit american soil technically they're supposed to be considered that way but geographically you were born outside the country so then john McCain couldn't have been president because he was born in Panama it leads to a whole just a host of chaos

[SPEAKER_03]: And this is what the the liberal justice is the three lefty justices were warning about because it when you take that the the sledgehammer these jackasses on the court did and yes, I am going to call them jackasses and no I don't have any respect for them and you know what [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying really hard not to say anything bad about it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just say this.

[SPEAKER_03]: If Alito was standing in front of me, gonna cross the street, and there was a bus coming, and he was too busy paying attention to his phone, I would let him go. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying. [SPEAKER_03]: I can be really nice and help all kinds of people, but I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_03]: There are some people who I do not want to help in any set of circumstances because of the nasty things that they've done.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the Avengers movie, you always ask the question, not you personally, Jody, but you know, people in general ask the question about the baby Hitler. [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, and, you know, in the movie, they go, why don't you tell Bob, baby Hitler and, you know, it's a whole time thing. [SPEAKER_01]: But I like, I'm like, you know what, that is a good question to ask.

[SPEAKER_08]: If you want to just be nice to Hitler and buy it by his paintings and you don't have to kill baby Hitler, you can raise baby Hitler differently. [SPEAKER_03]: Way to see, this is the creative thinking that is necessary in order to save our country. [SPEAKER_08]: And you could have raised baby Donald differently. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh God, that would have been so much better. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow. [SPEAKER_03]: That would have been great, but in any case.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can do things nice, but there are sometimes where there are some people out there. [SPEAKER_03]: I just have a hard time being nice to, and I'm sorry, I couldn't be nice to Alito. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, no, I wouldn't either, but okay. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if somebody threw a drink in his face, you know, I wouldn't give him an napkin to wipe it up. [SPEAKER_07]: No, neither would I. Just saying. [SPEAKER_07]: We're not encouraging that either.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're right and do not do anything like that because that would not be okay. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can let somebody sit and stew in that because and somebody should let him sit and stew in his own because yeah, he ain't good. [SPEAKER_08]: No, he's not peaceful. [SPEAKER_08]: So it's his wife. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: They can, they can, they can, oh, yeah, unfortunately in Nebraska and she is.

[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, there was some good news today. [SPEAKER_03]: So let's focus on some of the good news today. [SPEAKER_03]: This Supreme Court did uphold the structure of the free preventative health care that is included in the ACA. [SPEAKER_03]: Good. [SPEAKER_03]: Now that's good.

[SPEAKER_03]: except they said that the the committee that that allows this that sets the rules that says insurance companies need to cover this they say that anybody on the committee can be replaced by the person who is currently RFK junior.

[SPEAKER_03]: What doesn't RFK want preventative care isn't that his whole thing make America healthy again so preventative care helps to keep people healthy doesn't it's it's an argument that there there there are arguments there but at least in the structure of the law it's there and at the moment it doesn't look like he's going to mess with that so there's there's that

[SPEAKER_03]: The FCC case, the phone and internet subsidy case, Supreme Court upheld that as well, so that people who are living in underserved areas and who are poor. [SPEAKER_03]: So if you're poor and rural, if you're poor and urban, if you're poor and in an area that is underserved, there will still be a subsidy for phone and internet. [SPEAKER_03]: So that way your kids can still get online, can learn, maybe you can have a business. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so that's good.

[SPEAKER_08]: I'm glad they did that. [SPEAKER_03]: um... there was the story the uh... the uh... the uh... case the free speech purchase packed in this one is the age checks on adult websites the age verification law um... i think they were a little heavy handed on that one but that one by itself doesn't seem to be the end of the world yeah i mean you have to be twenty one to get on to alcohol websites [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: It's the same kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I thought most porn websites already had that, but now they're saying you have to actually have a photo ID, which is different. [SPEAKER_03]: It's putting the age check instead of on the user. [SPEAKER_03]: It's putting it on the company.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So basically, you would have to put up your ID and they have to run it through a checker, which means they have to pay an ID verification company that this is, but at the same time, and this is one of those things that they still couldn't get around in the case, is I can pretend to be Jody Hamilton. [SPEAKER_03]: I can pretend to be you. [SPEAKER_03]: I have a picture of you.

[SPEAKER_03]: I can use an AI, whatever, and I can use your email address and hack into your email so I can get it out of it and pretend to be you. [SPEAKER_03]: And if I have a copy of a driver's license, I send that to these people and they verify me as you. [SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, I mean, it's for eighteen and over. [SPEAKER_08]: So how many kids are going to steal their parents' IDs? [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's one of those things where you look at it and you can say, OK, well, you put up a higher fence, but the behind me, there's a guy with a ten foot ladder and you just put up an eight foot fence. [SPEAKER_03]: So [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, I remember that Facebook and I think TikTok have age restrictions, but kids aren't stupid. [SPEAKER_08]: If they want to get on, they're not Facebook anymore.

[SPEAKER_08]: But if they want to get on these sites, they're going to get on and take away porn from the South. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, bye Donald. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, take away porn from a lot of places. [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: As anybody who knows media history knows, one of the first kinds of media that was out there that they found, some of the be cave drawings and paintings, basically depict [SPEAKER_03]: Graphic issues graphic things going on humans or animals.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're frescoes. [SPEAKER_08]: They're very famous for schoolsters and all sorts of stuff on buildings for crazy. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: So so the idea that they can limit it like I said. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like they said, well, that's six foot fence didn't work. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll put up an eight foot fence. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you go, okay, but there's a guy behind you, the ten foot ladder. [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, it's, you know, people under the age of eighteen or smarter than the average scotus member. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Very. [SPEAKER_03]: So another reason to do another reason to expand the court. [SPEAKER_03]: So there, there were some good some. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, the point when it's just low hanging fruit. [SPEAKER_03]: The point when it's one of words you know, right, no, it's actually is that's pretty good. [SPEAKER_03]: I like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's good. [SPEAKER_03]: I like that. [SPEAKER_03]: That's good. [SPEAKER_03]: I like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: That was the case about redistricting and equal protection. [SPEAKER_03]: They have held that over for the next term. [SPEAKER_03]: So they're going to re-here that this fall. [SPEAKER_08]: Wonderful. [SPEAKER_03]: They have some other questions. [SPEAKER_03]: Depending on what they ask, it could be wonderful or bad, but you go, okay, whatever.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's Calle. [SPEAKER_03]: So so now we've hit free speech versus passion and Calle and FCC and Brad Wood that was the ACA protective coverage one which leaves Mammood. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the LGBTQ books for kids case. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And that one. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So the Supreme Court ruled in favor of bigoted parents hiding behind religion and allowing them to opt out against LGBTQ books.

[SPEAKER_03]: But [SPEAKER_03]: But it goes further than just opting out. [SPEAKER_08]: So that's what I didn't hear. [SPEAKER_08]: So please, please enlighten me because I heard it was just you can, I mean, any parent can say, no, you can't read that. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, right, right. [SPEAKER_08]: That's always been a thing. [SPEAKER_03]: From what I understand, the case basically, Alito says that, [SPEAKER_03]: Well, how did Ellie put it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because Ellie pulled this, Ellie missed all pulled this from the, from Alito's ruling itself here. [SPEAKER_03]: And actually there's another legal scholar, Darra Purvis who pulled this and says, here's, here's the quote, from Alito's part of the ruling. [SPEAKER_03]: He says, do to financial and other constraints, however, many parents have no choice but to send their children to a public school, references more, which is not a favorite, famous case.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alito continues as a result the right of parents to direct the religious upbringing of their children would be an empty promise if it did not follow those children into the public school classroom. [SPEAKER_03]: We have thus recognized limits on the government's ability to interfere with the students religious upbringing in a public school setting. [SPEAKER_08]: What does that have to do with books that parents don't want them to read?

[SPEAKER_08]: What the hell does that have to do with anything? [SPEAKER_03]: as Ellie put it all public schools or religious schools now according to Elito. [SPEAKER_03]: So what it means is that basically these parents were objecting to their even being LGBTQ friendly books in a school or as part of their curricula. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: So in effect, this would force them to strip material that risks generating religious objections.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what that's what Justin Sotomayor said in her descent. [SPEAKER_07]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: And she said schools may, instead of, what does she say here? [SPEAKER_03]: It may be too costly for these schools to worry about lawsuits over opting out or spending funds tracking which students are in the class for this particular thing and which ones are not? [SPEAKER_08]: Why would it cost money?

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, I mean, it's, it's, oh, yeah, yeah, schools get money based on but since. [SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: So they may instead censor their curricula, which basically means they would strip out anything that might offend somebody. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, you mean like Darwinism?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we, we will talk about that part of this because that, that particular part of the LGBTQ case, the Mammood case, I don't think a lot of folks on the right have figured this one out and it's gonna cut their way. [SPEAKER_03]: So we will talk about that. [SPEAKER_03]: We do have the drink of the day we do have Karen and Anita from True Blue Politics coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: Grab yourself another drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you're calm and down a little bit like we are.

[SPEAKER_03]: Join us back in for another round at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: We're back here at the law school. [SPEAKER_03]: We call the politics bar on a Friday nights. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you are getting a little bit of clarity on some of this type of stuff today. [SPEAKER_03]: You're realizing that not all six of the decisions were absolutely horrible although one of them was extremely destructive.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you need a drink, though, where we do have the drink of the day, and we will get that to you. [SPEAKER_03]: So just settle back. [SPEAKER_03]: Chill out. [SPEAKER_03]: We will help you understand a little bit more. [SPEAKER_03]: We were in the middle of talking about the LGBTQ books for kids case, Mammood. [SPEAKER_03]: That was one of the six cases decided at the Supreme Court today.

[SPEAKER_03]: We were talking here in the break as we were paying some bills, Jody and I, and so do you understand with a just to send how it makes it a little bit more, how this makes a little more sense? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, now I understand what you were saying.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: For since since you guys were, you know, while we were busy doing some other things, long as short is is, Mammood says that if you're worried as a school that somebody might sue you, well, then you should censor yourself. [SPEAKER_03]: You should censor your books or your curricula. [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe remove those LGBTQ plus books that say it's okay for kids to have two momies or two daddies or gay penguins. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: Which, whatever, their penguins. [SPEAKER_03]: However, what the right doesn't seem to understand, and this is something that I'm trying to remember. [SPEAKER_03]: I know I'm pretty sure that Glenn talked about it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure Barb talked about this, too. [SPEAKER_03]: Animus in law. [SPEAKER_03]: Animus is one of those things where to have any rule of law. [SPEAKER_03]: You cannot have it be set up as an animus.

[SPEAKER_03]: You cannot set up a rule of law that says, we have rights for these people, but not those people. [SPEAKER_08]: Hi, I'm a woman in there. [SPEAKER_08]: I know rights for women in certain states right now. [SPEAKER_03]: There are [SPEAKER_03]: There are rights and yet there are not rights. [SPEAKER_03]: Like for example, in every state of one, we can get a credit card. [SPEAKER_03]: That right, that right hasn't changed, we're for now. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: But what's the right wants to do is they want to use their own personal animals. [SPEAKER_03]: They want to say that no one who disagrees with us and our particular view of religion. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the right way of extremists. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not everybody on the right. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just that the right way not jobs like John Fee goes saying. [SPEAKER_03]: The problem with this is that everybody else also has rights.

[SPEAKER_03]: So the right and Republicans these days want to take the law and use it as a stick or a book to beat somebody else to death. [SPEAKER_03]: But everybody else also has books and we also get a swing. [SPEAKER_03]: And with respect to the Mammood case, I honestly think what many of the folks on the left should do now is fire back. [SPEAKER_03]: So look, I mean, you know, just like with Cass Mark, that's fine. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he wants to go one direction, go another direction.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, but my child's faith beliefs say that, you know, you can't have a Christian youth group or whatever, meeting in the building. [SPEAKER_03]: That would sell it. [SPEAKER_03]: People go, go after those things. [SPEAKER_03]: People say, but that would be, that would be, especially people on the left go. [SPEAKER_03]: But that would be rude, though, yes. [SPEAKER_03]: War is rude. [SPEAKER_03]: And what we are is right now. [SPEAKER_03]: We are at war.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is a war mostly without bullets, but it is a civil war. [SPEAKER_03]: And I wish people would actually accept that. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, some of the people on their side really do want some of the people on our side dead. [SPEAKER_03]: Stephen Miller does not like immigrants. [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't care if they get killed as their dragon. [SPEAKER_08]: No, no, no. [SPEAKER_08]: He doesn't like certain immigrants.

[SPEAKER_03]: alt-right certain ones brown ones mostly but yeah and and people say that's a that's that's a slur that's mean no attack your it's accurate I'm sorry but but you know Terry Moran was right and and that's just how that is yeah I'm sorry I would I would rather we not have to do this kind of thing but what it means for the folks on the left is [SPEAKER_03]: You can't sit back and you can't sit down.

[SPEAKER_03]: And yes, when somebody else does these kinds of things, you only got so many cheeks to turn. [SPEAKER_03]: And we've turned all the cheeks. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry, we've turned all the cheeks. [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's time that we do to them what they have tried to do to us. [SPEAKER_03]: And yes, it makes things unpleasant. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it means that public schools become war zones. [SPEAKER_03]: It means that the court is going to be ready with guns.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is true, too. [SPEAKER_03]: It means that that the Supreme Court itself is going to get absolutely flooded with emergency requests [SPEAKER_03]: from class action suits that are legitimate. [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to be drowning in this. [SPEAKER_03]: By the way, just another reason that it would be good to have more justices on there. [SPEAKER_03]: So long as they were archived and not their kind.

[SPEAKER_03]: And people say that's me and the other side says the same thing. [SPEAKER_03]: I go, and that's why you're just as supposed to be blind. [SPEAKER_03]: There are the ones who created this destructive patchwork of laws where things will be legal in one place and without. [SPEAKER_03]: And illegal in another. [SPEAKER_03]: And instead of just sitting there and taking it, it means folks on our side are going to have to fight about this stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to have to stand up for ourselves. [SPEAKER_03]: There is no more sitting back and waiting and especially being polite to some of these folks. [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, but there's a difference in driving. [SPEAKER_03]: Here's a race driven. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that Lonnie's got some zippy cars, but... No, I've never been in a race car neither has he.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: I have a friend who used to race, and he said, both people think there are only two things. [SPEAKER_03]: Two things. [SPEAKER_03]: Two forms of acceleration or deceleration, gas and brake, and they're wrong. [SPEAKER_03]: There's three. [SPEAKER_03]: There's acceleration, there's break, and there's what's known as lift, or a lot of people call coasting. [SPEAKER_03]: These are all part of what you do when you're racing or driving fairly fast.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, I get that. [SPEAKER_03]: There's more than just their side or our side. [SPEAKER_03]: There are other ways of handling things. [SPEAKER_03]: Like you were mentioning or being nice in certain ways. [SPEAKER_03]: You can kill them with kindness as my mother would say. [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact is, there's no longer going, you can't just sit there on our side and not do anything. [SPEAKER_07]: No, you're right.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, perfect example of what might be killing them with kindness might be considered to be what Kat Agasela is doing there in the Chicago suburbs, where she's running an Illinois. [SPEAKER_03]: Because she's making all kinds of things available for people who are in need. [SPEAKER_03]: She's helping the community that she wants to serve before she's even elected. [SPEAKER_03]: Now, some people are like, and they have been.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some of her democratic competitors have said, that's not fair. [SPEAKER_03]: How is that not fair? [SPEAKER_03]: How is helping people not fair? [SPEAKER_08]: They can do it, too. [SPEAKER_08]: Nobody's stopping them. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: And hey, wouldn't it be great if every campaign actually helped the people that they were trying to represent, even before they represent them? [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, I don't see how that's not fair.

[SPEAKER_08]: You have the right to help others as you see fit, too. [SPEAKER_08]: Nobody's stopping you. [SPEAKER_03]: There's no laws in the campaign laws that say that you can't take some of the campaign money and actually do some of those things, which is why she's doing some of those things. [SPEAKER_03]: Ta-da! [SPEAKER_03]: There is no law against what's going on as far as in New York City. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, we know what's going on with New York, the New York City mayors race.

[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about that this week quite a good bit. [SPEAKER_03]: And look, Mondani is going to be an excellent candidate, I think, for a number of ways, but the biggest knock I've heard in him is, oh, well, he wants to have public grocery stores. [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember was Josh Marshall from talking points, memo, who said, you know, who else has public grocery stores? [SPEAKER_03]: There's a small town in Kansas that has one.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know, who else has has grocery stores or has in the past had grocery stores owned by a government agency, New York City, Fiero, Laguardia actually did a whole bunch of that back in what the thirties. [SPEAKER_03]: Something like that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like these aren't solutions that are on the table, and it's not like they don't work in small towns and big ones.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are solutions that have been there before, but a lot of people have been by the right wing propaganda have been scared. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you don't get, you can't do that. [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's, it's, God, what did, what had ran to use to call it? [SPEAKER_03]: Was it socialism for the rich?

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, it's always socialism for the rich and rugged capitalism for the poor, which basically means the poor get hoes and the rich just get it sit on their asses and you know have a nice life. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, they get bailed out constantly. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I'm sorry, but that's you know, that's not that doesn't work and what it ends up with when you have that kind of thing is people eventually get really really tired of it.

[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: people people get tired of it and look if if you remove the ability of people to have recourse they will take the only recourse that is available to them which is violence and we would rather they don't do that right. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's kind of the way that [SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot more people should be looking at this is, are you doing the right thing, first of all, are you doing the right thing, ethically, morally?

[SPEAKER_03]: And then are you creating a situation which will lead to violence, which will lead inevitably to violence? [SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to box somebody into the point where they don't have any other recourse? [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of folks on the right think, well, I don't care because I'm going to be in charge. [SPEAKER_03]: that's not the way it works.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are a whole bunch of former kings and queens and rulers and zars and things all over the world in world history who have had similar attitudes and they ended up with a lot shorter lives. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Indeed, had made a great soccer ball, Marie. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: But so everybody needs to kind of watch that. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody is invincible. [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody is invincible.

[SPEAKER_03]: And everybody needs to watch themselves a little bit more on that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_03]: And especially with the folks who think that they're going to push their version of believing in God or their version of [SPEAKER_03]: faith believes on everybody else because that's not going to work especially here. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the number one reason that Europeans came here where there were already hundreds of Native American tribes.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it's the reason that we came over here from Europe. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: It's because we were being forced to live by one particular very restrictive set of religious rules in England. [SPEAKER_03]: And so we came over here and then other people went, well, hey, in Spain, I've got some, and I don't like that. [SPEAKER_03]: What are France and well, there's this country in that country. [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, go ahead, come on over.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of, you know, how we ended up being here is that people went man, living under one set of somebody's particular beliefs, restricted beliefs is stupid. [SPEAKER_03]: We should just let people believe what they want to believe and as long as they're good and don't kill anybody and pay their taxes and help out in the community. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Call me crazy. [SPEAKER_03]: That's America. [SPEAKER_08]: That should be how it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm, but obviously I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: There are people who are... They don't want to live that way. [SPEAKER_03]: And whatever, but my suggestion to them is find another country, because this one's America, and we're definitely not going to... We're not going back down on that folks.

[SPEAKER_03]: uh... there was a uh... there there is another lawyer out there who uh... goes by name of citizen lane who was talking with me today about some of this stuff and he said uh... that the the the worst about the the decision from the supreme court are we to understand that justice is only possible for those who can afford to indicate and he says no but he says only individual plaintiffs can get certain kinds of equitable relief like an injunction

[SPEAKER_03]: But if they prevail the courts, the effect on starting to cycle this will be the same. [SPEAKER_03]: It's it's bad, but it's not as bad as it could be yet. [SPEAKER_03]: yet. [SPEAKER_03]: And that is the key. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to stay active. [SPEAKER_03]: You got to get out there. [SPEAKER_03]: And you got to realize that there's some hope and there's some change possible. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be talking more about that change coming up because I do want it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's a Friday night. [SPEAKER_03]: We like to end the week on a more positive note. [SPEAKER_03]: And and I think you should we. [SPEAKER_03]: Now that we've got through those six decisions. [SPEAKER_03]: Now that you know what it is, you're like, OK, well, I know the lay of land. [SPEAKER_03]: So I made another drink. [SPEAKER_03]: And then we want to talk about some fun stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: And we want to bring some friends in and talk about some fun stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that is exactly what we're going to do. [SPEAKER_03]: Karen and Anita are coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: We've got the drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to talk about some fun stuff that does happen to be in the news. [SPEAKER_03]: Music coming out today. [SPEAKER_03]: Some movies coming out. [SPEAKER_03]: Get yourself another round.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jody and I, we will be back here breathing a little easier and having a good time with you on a Friday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, like I said, first up your drink or something, you know, go use the restroom. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be back in like five minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure you can take her that in five minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: Just go. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be right back here.

[SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills of the politics bar. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad it's Friday. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad we are on the last segment before the weekend because [SPEAKER_03]: getting through that, uh, this Supreme Court stuff, trying to help everybody understand it and at least get a little bit more perspective on it. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yeah, we did that in the first hour.

[SPEAKER_03]: We, we may be a reference that we cared to need a little bit here this second hour, but hopefully we'll talk a little bit more about some of the fun stuff because [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's, it is hard stuffing my brain in a box where it's surrounded by all the legal stuff because I, I took some legal classes in college. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't, have you ever taken any legal classes at all? [SPEAKER_08]: I was one class shy of Prila.

[SPEAKER_03]: Nice. [SPEAKER_03]: Another reason why we love you and also probably why Jody is right. [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact is I took I took I was two classes short I was six credits because three credits a class whatever I was I was a two classes short of getting a [SPEAKER_03]: pre-law minor, which as it was, when I graduated, I got a degree at Broadcast Journalism. [SPEAKER_03]: And I had minors in English, political science, theater, and history.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I am literally credentialed to look people in the face and lie to them. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just I have this horrible thing. [SPEAKER_03]: It's called integrity. [SPEAKER_03]: And you have it. [SPEAKER_03]: Your mom has it. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure your dad probably had it. [SPEAKER_03]: My folks had it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I can't do that because among other things, I always have this kind of floating ghost in the back of my head where if I'm gonna tell somebody just a really bad lie, it's like the ghost of my mom's hand and it's like she would just like she's gonna slap me if I, you know, so I look I had a good childhood, but you know, I was disciplined appropriately and I learned not to do certain things like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so you know I had I had a good education and my education I did learn some law stuff and there's so much complex law stuff with this it's it's it's not easy to understand so if you [SPEAKER_03]: If you were confused today by some of it, don't worry about it. [SPEAKER_03]: There is also other news in the news on tap today. [SPEAKER_03]: The Senate Parliamentarian who we have grown to love has found more provisions that Republicans wanted to jam in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_03]: They blocked private school vouchers. [SPEAKER_03]: She blocked religious school carve outs so that they wanted they wanted to give a carve out to this university that is basically Maga University that that that gives a whole bunch of you know the right wing is a whole bit that's sorry parliamentarians that you can't do that.

[SPEAKER_03]: She stripped the gun silencer provision in the ugly bill yep [SPEAKER_03]: And let's see, and because of all these things being stripped out, some of the more contentious issues like the state and local tax, also known as the salt tax. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: That's been causing all kinds of problems. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a bunch of Republicans who say that they are not going to vote for this because of that.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, yeah, I mean, they live in states where the property taxes are through the roof. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I live in a state that because of Prop thirteen, it kind of keeps them tampered, but say I bought a new house right now. [SPEAKER_08]: My property taxes in my neighborhood are between twenty five and thirty thousand dollars a year. [SPEAKER_08]: And that's for a new house in my neighborhood.

[SPEAKER_08]: My house, I bought it thirty years ago, so my property taxes are very, very low. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: But because what it's supposed to do, it didn't do it when they were at downturn, but I digress. [SPEAKER_08]: But what it's supposed to do is you buy a house, it's a million dollars, which is my neighborhood. [SPEAKER_08]: Trust me, these houses are not worth it. [SPEAKER_08]: But anyway. [SPEAKER_08]: You say buy a house for a million dollars.

[SPEAKER_08]: The property taxes are approximately two percent of the value of your home. [SPEAKER_08]: Two to two and a half percent. [SPEAKER_08]: So you're looking at twenty twenty to twenty five thousand dollars a year on that million. [SPEAKER_08]: And then it goes up a percent and a half I think a year after that. [SPEAKER_08]: So I bought my house for two ninety five. [SPEAKER_08]: So my property taxes are very it's based on now I think my house. [SPEAKER_08]: According to the tax people.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's about four half four hundred and some change thousand dollars even though I could sell it for over a million. [SPEAKER_08]: So it doesn't based on the value of the home that you could sell it for. [SPEAKER_08]: It's based on a gradual increase over time, which kept property taxes low, blah, blah, blah, blah. [SPEAKER_03]: So look, state and local taxes are big deal.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's why that's why this salt cut out as they call it is, that's why it is such a big deal as well. [SPEAKER_03]: So. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and state income taxes, that's a right off for feds. [SPEAKER_08]: And they've kept, I know they kept property taxes. [SPEAKER_08]: thirty thousand dollars a year or something which doesn't work for New York or California. [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know it just it's not going to work for most on that's and that's that's the argument over that the argument they're having is over the cap that they want to get this in all this just to try to get this big ugly bill passed and then they'll get it passed in the Senate it'll go back to the house they'll have to redo it again. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not going to get any of this done by July four.

[SPEAKER_03]: They have Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, basically, and it's done by next Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not, they're not going to get it done by next Friday. [SPEAKER_08]: Unless they're Genie or Mrs. or Samantha Stevens and they go, and then they move their nose. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, that's the only way that's going to happen. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: uh... look uh... we will be having a short week next week but we'd will still take your voicemails over the weekend as well and we appreciate all of the comments yes farmer i realized i got the team wrong i will mention that farmer and off of mention this he said the uh... uh... the person that that was yelling the obscenities at the end at that the mlb player the other day right says white socks fan at a cubby's family so when i was important for chicago people

[SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand for you. [SPEAKER_03]: W. C. P. T. listeners. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand Chicago fans. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, you know, socks and cubbies, not the same. [SPEAKER_03]: Why is that? [SPEAKER_03]: I get it. [SPEAKER_03]: I understand that being said, when I read it at first, all the stuff that was around it was cubbies. [SPEAKER_03]: And it said, there will be more to the support.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I went back to the port and they had edited it completely and changed it, changed out to video because the video at first, it was a cubbies video. [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, that's interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, now it's clear that it's white socks. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going, well, look, so that one of the fun and ugly things of modern media that we don't always, don't always let people know about.

[SPEAKER_03]: Things media change these days, especially online. [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like it used to be where you print a newspaper. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you had to have a major issue, you would have to print a contraction. [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of, frankly, a lot of broadcasters, these days don't admit they made mistakes. [SPEAKER_03]: So far, there you go. [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully you're happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like in a margarita or we do have a we have a different drink tonight it's so it looks really good and I'm going to have one of these after we get off the air because I definitely need one of these tonight. [SPEAKER_03]: What is the drink of a day today? [SPEAKER_01]: It is called an unannounced day trip or okay so like you know just kind of skipping out of work and yeah and that's fun.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah and so and the one the reason they call it unannounced is because of one of the ingredients that you normally wouldn't use in a drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: What is it? [SPEAKER_08]: What you need first off is a high ball glass. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Ice. [SPEAKER_08]: And then one and a half ounces of gin.

[SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: A half ounce of this is the surprise ingredient of one hundred percent organic powdered turmeric. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: It actually helps your liver soon. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Three quarters of an ounce of lemon juice. [SPEAKER_08]: Three quarters of an ounce of agave syrup. [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. [SPEAKER_08]: Premium ginger beer to top it off. [SPEAKER_08]: So however much is, you know, however tall you want the glass to be, basically.

[SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: A pinch of cayenne pepper and a cucumber slice. [SPEAKER_08]: So you fill the high bog glass with some cubed ice. [SPEAKER_08]: You combine all the ingredients and give it a gentle chin. [SPEAKER_03]: If you put it in, the tumor is full of lemon base, the agave syrup. [SPEAKER_08]: And even the ginger beer. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, basically you pour, I would say pour the gin, the turmeric, the juice, and the syrup first to see how tall it is in your glass.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then you top it off with the ginger beer. [SPEAKER_08]: So it's probably, you know, get a twelve ounce bottle ginger beer.

[SPEAKER_08]: Do not get the big ass mug from a circle K. This is not a no, it's not that it's just for one person and so you pour the all of the ingredients and you gently stir it so everything gets kind of nice and mixed up and then you sprinkle a small pinch of cayenne pepper on top of the cucumber slice and then you kind of rest the cucumber slice inside the drink and drink up [SPEAKER_03]: Enjoy. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think it would probably be a little bit of a little bit more on the citrusy side with lemon juice, but a little bit of spice. [SPEAKER_08]: It's in kick. [SPEAKER_08]: There's a kick to it. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: The tumor, I don't think I've ever tasted it. [SPEAKER_08]: I've had it in pill form. [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think I've ever tasted it. [SPEAKER_08]: So that's an interesting play. [SPEAKER_03]: Twist.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_03]: I will have to try that. [SPEAKER_03]: If you are looking to try any of the drinks of the day, [SPEAKER_03]: Place you can go for that politics bar dot com get yourself subscribed. [SPEAKER_03]: We will slip those into your email box. [SPEAKER_03]: I have been known to say things double on Tondras and things. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you look.

[SPEAKER_03]: JoJo, the first time she was here, and I think, which she was earlier this week too, mentioned something like that, that I'm very good at double on Tondras, which I don't do on purpose. [SPEAKER_03]: It just happens to be the way that I am. [SPEAKER_03]: I apologize about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Alrighty, there was some fun news of the day. [SPEAKER_03]: There was a bunch of music out today. [SPEAKER_03]: What is it here? [SPEAKER_03]: To know that is from a different day.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to try to get the list of them here. [SPEAKER_03]: I lost the list of it here on Natasha betting field. [SPEAKER_03]: I think has a new tour as well. [SPEAKER_03]: The Bruce Springsteen. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a new box set of his barber's license. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the album you wanted. [SPEAKER_03]: Lord has new album. [SPEAKER_03]: Lizzo has a new album. [SPEAKER_03]: I finally remember the country album that I want to listen to. [SPEAKER_03]: Cole Swindell.

[SPEAKER_03]: It is what a friend of mine calls popcorn country. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: It's basically it's it's it's what pop music.

[SPEAKER_03]: it's more like what pop music used to be kind of like should I train kind of yeah kind of you know it's it's light like um uh rascal flats kind of back in the day you know it's it's it's fun it's it's just something fun where you can play it and you can kind of get away from some stuff so he's got a new album to we got details on all that uh the new f one movie with Brad Pitt is coming out this weekend they're expecting it to be a pretty solid blockbuster over the weekend uh there's a new horror movie Megan two point

[SPEAKER_03]: That is coming out as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of Brad Pitt and F-One, his house got ransacked. [SPEAKER_08]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, unfortunately, this has become a thing with the sports stars and actors and musicians and stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: They show them they're at can or they're at some party in New York or LA or Calgary or Paris.

[SPEAKER_03]: And a group of professional thieves breaks in and still stuff from them, which I'm like, that's just stupid because you would think somebody like Brad Pitt is going to have like some really specialy stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Where are you going to fence that? [SPEAKER_08]: Well, and also, I mean, I would assume that it's not his home isn't listed on any sort of place you can find it under his name.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I guess they had to like scale the fence, break the window, leave a bunch of evidence. [SPEAKER_08]: But I mean, even finding out his address. [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I know you can find anybody online, but a lot of people, a lot of famous people put their residences under their business managers address, or they don't have it in their name.

[SPEAKER_08]: It's in some name that you can't figure out so that if they do get the public record, they don't know that it's Brad Pitt. [SPEAKER_08]: So if it's in his name, that doesn't seem very wise. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure that I'm not sure his house is in his name, but I do know that the news reports are saying that his house got sacked and that sucks.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would rather that, you know, that kind of thing didn't happen, but it seems like, yes, they're professional thieves, but they're still kind of sloppy. [SPEAKER_03]: And they've been catching these thieves. [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm glad because they, you know, look, [SPEAKER_03]: Just because your famous doesn't mean that you should be afraid. [SPEAKER_03]: You should be able to leave your stuff at home and hang out and go down to the bar if you want to.

[SPEAKER_03]: We recommend we recommend hanging out with your friends at the bar our friends carrying a needle are coming in. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure who's here first, but look, well, we will take a break. [SPEAKER_03]: We will go. [SPEAKER_03]: We will get carrying a needle out of the lobby because I think they're there in the lobby. [SPEAKER_03]: We will get them.

[SPEAKER_03]: We will bring them in and we will talk about a lot more fun stuff, including maybe a little more of a mom Danny talk because I'm enjoying that. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the future and going, you know, [SPEAKER_03]: Things could be good in some places. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about all that and more. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a Friday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Hang on, hang on. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we'd pay some bills at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're back here at the politics bar on a Friday night, and we happen to get Anita and Karen. [SPEAKER_01]: We out for the lobby. [SPEAKER_03]: They were in the lobby, so. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: How are you? [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to ask you how you are excluding the Supreme Court stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Other Supreme Court stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, kind of like the Abraham Lincoln thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Other than the play, Mrs. Lincoln, how are you doing?

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, everything's relative during these times. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you have to hang out with your good relatives, then it's better. [SPEAKER_03]: And if you have to hang out with your better relatives, then it's. [SPEAKER_03]: That's all. [SPEAKER_06]: This is a really bad day or just a kind of bad day or just that's the way I read Daisy's, you know, now these times.

[SPEAKER_09]: I feel like if I can get through a day personally, okay, and then I can deal and feel all this other stuff, but I need to know this and I'm just going to say, my little Loki, my kitty cat, I had to bring him to the [SPEAKER_09]: that yesterday and that was about two thousand dollars. [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I'm so sorry. [SPEAKER_09]: He had to have surgery. [SPEAKER_09]: He was kind of impacted. [SPEAKER_09]: Stuff was kind of backed up.

[SPEAKER_09]: He's got, you know, he's sixteen and he's just having like those old age issues and you know, but it's scary because you know, you leave them and they're like, okay, here's some forms to fill out. [SPEAKER_09]: And I was telling Anita and you know, one of the questions is do you want them resuscitated? [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I've had to do that. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, my gosh.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I was like in tears when I was filling it out and I was like, I got in my car and I was just like, oh my god, you know, because it just kind of hits you. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's like, okay, that could have been the last time I saw this guy. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I had to do that.

[SPEAKER_08]: I had to do that year ago when when Lonnie and I were first dating and we were in North Dakota and my friend that was taking care of my dog, she just found her and she couldn't move her back legs. [SPEAKER_08]: And so they took her to my vet and then my vet, well, they called my vet and they said, no, no, no, he she needs to go to specialists. [SPEAKER_08]: She went to this neurologist who Marlon Brando was in the waiting room. [SPEAKER_08]: So it was that kind of place.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_08]: So they take her in. [SPEAKER_08]: And so I'm trying to get a signal in North Dakota because this is two thousand one. [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm like, you know, up in a tree trying to get signals. [SPEAKER_08]: And I finally get my friends on the phone and they said, well, they want to know these certain things because they have to knock her out to see what's going on. [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm like, okay, what? [SPEAKER_08]: And she was eleven at the time.

[SPEAKER_08]: And they said, she was a Terry or mutt. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so generally they live longer than just eleven years because some of the bigger brings don't live that well. [SPEAKER_08]: She made it to fifteen but but they were like how do you want her to be resuscitated and if so how much resuscitation do you want and does that in the other and I was yeah.

[SPEAKER_08]: I was weep, I just met Lonnie's family and I'm in tears over my dog, you know, and people were listening to me at the, at the badlands going, they don't learn ever, hard attack, you know. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, everybody, that story's like that. [SPEAKER_06]: We had my archive that caught in a fence. [SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, and it's late, which is basically dinged off. [SPEAKER_06]: And they were going to appetite it. [SPEAKER_06]: And then we said, well, go ahead and try to save it.

[SPEAKER_06]: So they tried to save it. [SPEAKER_06]: And then she started getting, you know, she had, she became a [SPEAKER_06]: septic and so they started giving her antibiotics and the doctor called me the vet call me and he's like, well, she's not responding to the antibiotics so. [SPEAKER_06]: you know, he felt like it was time to put her down, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, try another antibiotic.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what they did and she was fine. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, my dog even started walking again. [SPEAKER_09]: They were shocked when she started walking. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, and that's the thing though, you know, because people like when I told him it was too grand, okay? [SPEAKER_09]: And I mean, yes, a lot of money. [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of money, but it's like, what is the alternative?

[SPEAKER_06]: Tell me what the alternative is. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's kind of fortunate on our dog. [SPEAKER_06]: when she had to have a big appetite because we were trying to save it. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: Look, the whole thing to me is that it says there are positive outcomes. [SPEAKER_03]: We got to just keep going through.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's, you know, it's, it may be tried to say, but you know, when you go through hell, keep going because, yeah, I mean, that's, that is how it goes. [SPEAKER_03]: I was, I was trying to cheer up Ellie earlier today. [SPEAKER_03]: Ellie missed all who's been in here before.

[SPEAKER_03]: He, uh, he was saying earlier today, he said, this is one of those days where I stand on my roof and remember that I have an unimpressive house and so it would probably only break my legs and it'd be more annoying than a skin. [SPEAKER_06]: That's how the girl is. [SPEAKER_03]: What I told him is one of the phrases that, uh, my, one of our best friends, Rick and I have, we've joked about this for years when things were bad and somebody would say something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, man, you know, I can imagine that and you say, no, no, no, suicide is never the answer. [SPEAKER_03]: homicide, however. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And then you just, you know, exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just saying, look, you know, if you can't find the bodies, that's not my problem. [SPEAKER_08]: You know, John Lewis, that's twice in an episode that I've had the Sean Lewis.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, I'm just saying, you know, it's one of those things where how do you know the difference between a friend and a good friend? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: A friend will help you out. [SPEAKER_03]: A good friend helps you hide the body. [SPEAKER_06]: True. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to turn it a little happy because it's Friday. [SPEAKER_03]: There is some good news out there. [SPEAKER_03]: There is some positive news out there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, you know, I I've been looking at. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, we've been we've been covering this on and off all week long. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, the, uh, Montgomery race that race for me. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was fantastic. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: He is so good as a candidate. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's not the only one.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, uh, they're in, uh, I don't know, Karen, are you in, are you in the, the area where Cat Amigazale is running with its eighth or ninth district? [SPEAKER_03]: who's who's your corner first. [SPEAKER_09]: Mike Mike Danny Davis. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: So Danny Davis is my. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And then Sean cast and I've done work for Sean.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And I knew I knew you'd work for cast and this is your caskies. [SPEAKER_03]: What, you know, she caskies retiring. [SPEAKER_03]: And so, uh, Catabagasale is running in that district. [SPEAKER_03]: And, and that's, you know, there in the Chicago metro area. [SPEAKER_03]: And she's doing fantastically well. [SPEAKER_03]: She's I think she's she's depending on the poll first or second in polls.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she's doing it with that, you know, let's help the community attitude. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, you're getting some really good numbers for Mikey Cheryl and New Jersey. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Some really good numbers really good numbers here in Virginia for Abigail Spanberger. [SPEAKER_03]: Um, the early it is far too early down in Florida, but they the jolly seems to be getting some some good talks. [SPEAKER_03]: Some good discussion.

[SPEAKER_03]: We'll have him in here in a couple of weeks. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they'll be fantastic. [SPEAKER_06]: I got to tell you that one race in New York, though, a lot of people are paying attention to that. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's just disgusting. [SPEAKER_06]: The reaction from the right. [SPEAKER_06]: First, it was just, oh, you know, he's a socialist communist and everybody's like, what? [SPEAKER_06]: They didn't even, most people don't even understand what that really means, right?

[SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: But then it was like they went right to the xenophobia, right to the racism. [SPEAKER_06]: There was, I saw this post by Denise Justusa where he puts up a picture, I know. [SPEAKER_06]: A picture of Mundani, is it Mundani, right? [SPEAKER_01]: I'm done, yes. [SPEAKER_06]: And put a picture, picture of him up very handsome, by the way. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, handsome. [SPEAKER_06]: And next to him, nine, eleven.

[SPEAKER_06]: Towers. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, this was a kind of crap. [SPEAKER_06]: We're getting it. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So first thing we're talking about that last night, Anita, that look, there were good Muslims who were, you know, passengers on those planes on nine eleven.

[SPEAKER_03]: There were good Muslims who rushed into the towers to help rescue people, firefighters and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he's, but there's a lot of great people in the Jewish community who are coming out from on Danny and saying, we like this guy, but the overall theme to me is there are and, and yes, some of the folks look, I mean, yes, Abigail Spanberger's middle age, so it's Mikey Cheryl, so it's David Jolly, but [SPEAKER_03]: compared to the fact that we have a gerontocracy in much of the democratic party. [SPEAKER_03]: We have people who are way too old, who have been there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they were great then, but it's past time for them to retire. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, Chuck Schumer. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: No, I don't think it's the age. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Just if they're fighters, you know, Bernie Sanders is the oldest of them all. [SPEAKER_06]: That's true. [SPEAKER_03]: True. [SPEAKER_03]: True. [SPEAKER_03]: So Bernie Sanders doesn't, doesn't necessarily act like he's old.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think she doesn't act like he's old. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's my point. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Can't go by age. [SPEAKER_06]: You can only go by. [SPEAKER_06]: I want to add it to you. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, it's also not even necessarily a person's age. [SPEAKER_03]: It may be the age as far as the amount of time they've seen. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, they're way of thinking. [SPEAKER_03]: And some of them, it's how long they've spent in there.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some of them have spent so long. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't see other ways to create solutions. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't see other ways to tackle everything from from legislating to campaigning. [SPEAKER_06]: But you have to weigh that against their experience. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes they, but Joe Biden knew how to get things done. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying, I'm not saying get rid of all the old people.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are, there are those in the left who say get rid of everybody passed, say, sixty five. [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, definitely not. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: But what I'm saying is there is a very still to miss a very frozenness among a lot of folks in the Democratic Party, especially in the party hierarchy, New York State is a perfect example. [SPEAKER_03]: They are a lot of those people are afraid.

[SPEAKER_03]: We got a story in today's news on tap about how [SPEAKER_03]: Some of these folks went to current mayor New York City Mayor Eric Adams, the corporateist leaders that the Wall Street folks who are desperately scared that Mon Demi might get in there and that poor people might get groceries in their neighborhood. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And we mentioned this in the first hour.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know who owned grocery stores, what city owned grocery stores in their own city in the nineteen thirties? [SPEAKER_03]: New York, New York. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, La Gordia. [SPEAKER_03]: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a big historical fact that a lot of people in the media industry forgotten, but what is this old fashion word, groceries? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's brand. [SPEAKER_08]: No, no, no, it's just made up.

[SPEAKER_06]: Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't,

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, maybe if you talk to your great grandma or something she might know about groceries Yeah, there's a relationship the words Yeah, and here's a thing with Madonna he had a vision what he did was I'm very skeptical that he'll get all those things done I'm not sure how much power a mayor has some little prices to make buses free But at least he has that vision and I'd like to see Democrats have more of that [SPEAKER_09]: And look, that is that is the thing where

[SPEAKER_03]: We said it before here. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've even said it. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we were talking about this last week with you too, discussing this that that, you know, people like Pelosi can teach the wisdom that they have, that you can teach wisdom if somebody is willing and able to learn wisdom. [SPEAKER_03]: Not everybody can learn from everybody else's mistakes, but some people can learn from other people's wisdom and they, okay, they take that in.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's great. [SPEAKER_03]: That's the kind of candidates we want, but we also want people who are in there, who are new, who are young and say, let's do something different. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, let's say because obviously what we've been doing ain't working. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, the idea is that they're not new ideas. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: That's right. [SPEAKER_03]: The Mars, some of them. [SPEAKER_06]: The Mars have become stagnant.

[SPEAKER_06]: They become, you know, where they're free. [SPEAKER_03]: That's where I was looking for earlier stagnant. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they don't, they're afraid to actually propose these things because, you know, they'll get the backlash.

[SPEAKER_06]: And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's that was one of the reasons that that I was backing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, uh, kind of can't remember his name now suddenly. [SPEAKER_03]: It's Friday night. [SPEAKER_03]: It's getting late. [SPEAKER_03]: But um, the guy who's been running Wisconsin's Democratic Party. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, my God. [SPEAKER_06]: I can't believe it. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's in there. [SPEAKER_03]: He's in your host. [SPEAKER_03]: I know, but anyway, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, that's why that's why I wanted me because he said one of the first things he was going to do when he got in there was basically ban the the consult. [SPEAKER_06]: Was a man was it was a lost name? [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, was a lost. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, let's see here, Wisconsin, Democratic head. [SPEAKER_03]: I will look like iPhone. [SPEAKER_06]: Everybody was on this name. [SPEAKER_03]: We should, uh, bed wickler. [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and Ben is a great guy anyway, but his first thing he was going to do when he got in if he was elected the head of the DNC was basically teleconsolance to hit the road because, yeah, a lot of these people who have been there in politics for a long time, [SPEAKER_03]: They leave certain things to certain people and a lot of the policy stuff, unfortunately, they leave to these consultants.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're too busy out raising money, shaking hands and kissing babies or shaking babies and kissing hands. [SPEAKER_03]: They don't know what you're doing. [SPEAKER_03]: And they're getting out there and they leave some of this policy stuff when they should be fighting really hard. [SPEAKER_01]: That's why we elect them is to fight for the policies that we want them [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, Dammy also didn't do any television advertising. [SPEAKER_08]: It was all internet advertising.

[SPEAKER_08]: And then walking obviously, the credit, the man had. [SPEAKER_08]: But just to me, that's not that far, but you know, and we. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things though that people online were talking to him on Danny is that that when he was walking like that, they were impressed because other people, it wasn't just the major bloggers. [SPEAKER_03]: There was, there was some weird what she called herself, chaos barbie or something, some crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she was asking him crazy questions. [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, would you sleep with me and. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And these are bizarre weird things. [SPEAKER_03]: But here's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: He took everybody's question. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it's on everybody's show. [SPEAKER_01]: Complicated. [SPEAKER_01]: Complicated policy questions to silly questions like that on the subway.

[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, handled them all with the same level of respect and professionalism. [SPEAKER_06]: kind of like a young Barack Obama. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, that's what reminded me of because that charisma. [SPEAKER_06]: He has a lot of that charisma. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's not bad to look at either. [SPEAKER_06]: No, it's not bad to look at any of this line.

[SPEAKER_03]: and he's got and he's got he's got some great people around him like like lander who you know says look I'll help you out he's got some other people who are longer-term democrats who have some wisdom about how to run things how to get things down in New York City I'm like but I'm like I said I'm seeing this in other candidates in other places around the country in Illinois and Florida and in New Jersey and Virginia and that excites me yeah that excites me that makes me really really really happy because I'm like you know what

[SPEAKER_03]: No matter what happens, somebody's going to keep living after this. [SPEAKER_03]: And we better do what we can to make sure that it says good when we hand it to them so that they can take it to the next level. [SPEAKER_03]: So that they can fix so many of these disasters that like the Supreme Court did today. [SPEAKER_03]: So that there's a silver lining out there. [SPEAKER_06]: We have a lot of work to do. [SPEAKER_06]: We sure know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is true, but, you know, Rome, held in the United States, was not built in the day. [SPEAKER_03]: We got one more segment here with you, too, here at the politics room. [SPEAKER_06]: You guys did it for the last couple of days. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, of course. [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, we'll get you another drink. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: It is the politics bar in a Friday night. [SPEAKER_03]: You should get another drink as well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hang on, we'll come right back with more. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_05]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: It is Friday night at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for joining us. [SPEAKER_03]: Wherever you happen to be joining us from, whether it happens to be WCPT and Chicago AM-Nine-Fifty Online in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do have to get a somber for a moment here. [SPEAKER_03]: Great salute to Bill Moines. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Ninety one unfortunately passed away, but he was the former press secretary for LBJ. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: He was with PBS on an offer like, well, like, forty years. [SPEAKER_03]: Something like that. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: You did a whole series about the Iraq War.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Just how. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, just we're just stupid mistake that was. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he had so much integrity that the biggest reason one of the reasons that I really liked him is there were so many times that he made it very clear to other people in the industry that not having integrity was not acceptable. [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And and I'm sorry, there are a lot of people we talked about that was that yesterday, Jody, we were railing about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Some of the culture. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we were a lot of people did not get the memo. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know what happened? [SPEAKER_06]: There is there are no more bill more years other.

[SPEAKER_03]: There there are but you have to search you have to search out people who have integrity and people have integrity these days you have to have a little bit sharper elbows as they say in Canada. [SPEAKER_03]: I have to have them look like I know I'm called the a-hole in certain corners of the national political media. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine with that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they call me that because they get mad at me because I haven't been willing to do certain things because I haven't been willing to answer certain questions or let certain information out or So this this is something I I'd done more than once Somebody would do something stupid in the media and I would call them on an unsocial media It was a little bit when things were a little bit less fractured was a little bit easier, but I would call them on it, but I also loop in their bosses

[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes by email, sometimes occasionally by phone, I would loop in their bosses and sometimes these people would come back at me and go, you got me in trouble. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: And I would say now, you got you in trouble. [SPEAKER_03]: If you hadn't done a stupid thing in the first place, we wouldn't be having this conversation. [SPEAKER_06]: Do you ever do Andrew Mitchell? [SPEAKER_03]: I did not.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think I yelled at her once or twice, but I realized she didn't take care of her social media. [SPEAKER_03]: She had people do it for her. [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's most of the people who actually do it themselves. [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously her producers did not like her because they allowed her to be shot while falling asleep. [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: One of the one producers, certain producers, don't always necessarily like the talent that they work with.

[SPEAKER_06]: Well, technically she was telling. [SPEAKER_06]: And she was telling. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just saying that she was always like shut on their papers or something. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like she could she Andrew Mitchell could do some she could do some really good. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, she was good when she was younger. [SPEAKER_06]: Back at the day. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, when she was younger.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even when she even she was a little bit older, she still she still they had around for some of the contacts stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: It's because of the people that know her and that Speak more freely with her off camera, obviously, although occasionally on camera. [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the reasons that they still kind of keep her as an adjunct, even at NBC is because she knows the people and the people will pick up the phone.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like like when Stephanie Miller goes off the air and somebody goes, you know, they pick up the phone and they call Karen or need to go, hey, do you know what's going on? [SPEAKER_03]: Or, you know, they reach out to the, they get [SPEAKER_03]: because they didn't know all the backgrounds on you, Joe, they can't get you know, reach out to you or meet directly, but maybe they can reach out to Karen and eat in. [SPEAKER_01]: So they go, hey, you guys, what's going on?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I know? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And I get that. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the same thing with world leaders. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, something's going on. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I got to talk to somebody in the media. [SPEAKER_03]: They happen to have Andrea Mitchell's personal cell phone numbers. [SPEAKER_03]: So they'll call her. [SPEAKER_03]: Then she can go to NBC and be like, you know, you're seeing the standard talking head say, this is the case.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is what's happening. [SPEAKER_03]: And Andrea Mitchell says, well, actually, someone's so called me. [SPEAKER_03]: And this is really what's happening. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: No, she's pretty good as far as ankles. [SPEAKER_06]: I could remember on nighty eleven, she was the first person to start talking about Alcarda, Alcarda, and a song I've been on. [SPEAKER_06]: But I will let it forgive her for her obsession with Hillary Clinton Taylor.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_06]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: She's been on her growth and her criticism of the withdrawal from Afghanistan as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my gosh, she would not let that go either. [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I don't disagree with it.

[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of that stuff is a personal thing and a lot of that stuff is is, you know, you've got to get producers who will [SPEAKER_03]: who will say those things even to big powerful talent and tell them, you know, when they're wrong or when they need to back down. [SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, that means you're so good for your job sometimes. [SPEAKER_09]: Who's going to talk to Jake Tapper? [SPEAKER_09]: Did you see that C span call with a caller Sarah? [SPEAKER_09]: It was fantastic.

[SPEAKER_03]: I missed the C span call. [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody called on C span and just absolutely. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yes, but he and he came back with, well, you know, [SPEAKER_06]: as a reporter, I just, you know, I have to tell it like it is and no, no, he's not telling it like it is. [SPEAKER_06]: No, because he never told it like it was when Joe Biden was actually doing good things, great things with the economy. [SPEAKER_06]: We never did anything about that. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.

[SPEAKER_03]: And that's and that's one of those things when somebody calls you out on that type of stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of the big names will, they will default to, well, I'm trying to tell it like it is. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: No, you know. [SPEAKER_03]: And it's different when listeners, viewers, readers tell journalists that it's different than when it comes from your producer.

[SPEAKER_03]: I won't say anything that, you know, I had with any of the different talents I've had, but I've had some pretty legendary fights with certain talents I had. [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, have I been worried when those fights have happened that I'd lose my job? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can say that.

[SPEAKER_03]: But that's also one of the reasons that some of those people refer to me that way is that I would rather lose my job and keep my integrity than lose my integrity and keep my job. [SPEAKER_08]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: And there are a whole lot of people in this media business, especially the news media business, Jake Tapper, being one of them who are the opposite of me.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they really don't like people like me who have no shame in saying, if I lose my job because I did the right thing, I'm fine with that. [SPEAKER_03]: Because when I wake up in the morning, I'll be able to look myself in the mirror. [SPEAKER_06]: That's right. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he talks about, yeah, he talks about it all the time. [SPEAKER_06]: How many times he's been fired because he did that. [SPEAKER_06]: He spoke his life.

[SPEAKER_03]: Did I tell you guys about the time that Jesse Waters and Megan McCain and one of my former producers and I were all talking about Keith Olderman and this whole ethics situation? [SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this was twenty sixteen uh... this was the rnc convention and because they were worried because obviously Donald Trump and you know the magma monsters and so they they cordon off this whole area of cleaveland of downtown cleaveland and basically to get in as a journalist you had to go to this place that was not only two miles away or something in a bus and then they drove you through these empty streets with fences to get to the the location where the event was whatever so

[SPEAKER_03]: We were on the way with the bus. [SPEAKER_03]: Now Megan McCain, for a long time, her executive producer was one of my former assistant producers, Miranda. [SPEAKER_03]: She's great. [SPEAKER_03]: Miranda's fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: And even though she and I don't always agree on certain things, she's great. [SPEAKER_03]: I love her to death. [SPEAKER_03]: But we were writing and Megan is sitting there going, what?

[SPEAKER_03]: And you work for Randy Rhodes and you've worked for Laura Ingram? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have worked for both of them. [SPEAKER_03]: And I will admit, okay, the Obama mandated them too. [SPEAKER_03]: So here's the thing. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's well known in the industry that while I love Randy, there are people, especially when she was younger, who said she was extremely difficult to deal with. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there were times when, you know, you got it.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you're buttonheads with her, you got to have your stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Laura Ingram, I don't know if any producer, what she had her radio show, whoever worked for her other than two of us, who didn't, who she didn't make cry or yell at. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, only I'm the only liberal who worked for Laura Ingram, who she never made cry or yelled at. [SPEAKER_03]: So that's kind of, oh, that's the story. [SPEAKER_03]: I was telling them as we're writing on the bus.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they're just sitting there kind of mouth the gate. [SPEAKER_03]: And then then I really kicked it because I see Jesse Waters sitting there listening in, looking us, I said, you know, who I'd really like to work for. [SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to work for Keith Obermann doing news because it's well known that Keith Obermann is difficult to work for. [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, I've heard that. [SPEAKER_03]: He's very, he's got a great intensity, but right, right.

[SPEAKER_06]: And he wants to do the right thing, and he doesn't care who knows it. [SPEAKER_03]: And so, and I say this, Jesse Waters just kind of looks at me. [SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, damn, you're a glutton for punishment. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, I just, I turn him and remember Jesse wants to eat waters. [SPEAKER_03]: Right. [SPEAKER_03]: He used to work for Bill O'Reilly, right? [SPEAKER_10]: That's true. [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I was like, how's Bill O?

[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, oh, but I'm going, yeah, I've so I mean, you, you can work for difficult people and they can, and they can, and they've seen some of them be great like Randy some of being not great like Laura. [SPEAKER_03]: But I like a challenge sometimes. [SPEAKER_03]: And I, right now is one of those times where I'm really thankful that the person that I work with is not complex to work with, she's freaking awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: She, I don't know about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I really say my about earlier today with her. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm very temper tantrums yet. [SPEAKER_06]: No, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: We have a saying around here. [SPEAKER_03]: You know what saying is? [SPEAKER_03]: Jodie is right. [SPEAKER_06]: Jodie is right. [SPEAKER_06]: I can't remember time when she was wrong. [SPEAKER_06]: Never. [SPEAKER_03]: See, so this is, yeah, but that's, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: So I work for some very difficult people and Jodie is the antithesis of that.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: He's used four. [SPEAKER_03]: So nice. [SPEAKER_03]: Against four, no. [SPEAKER_03]: However you describe it, it's Friday night. [SPEAKER_03]: It's late, I'm tired. [SPEAKER_09]: And the hard on the court off the court. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody is. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, real deal and what you see is what you're doing. [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you guys. [SPEAKER_08]: Sure. [SPEAKER_08]: All the checks are in the mail. [SPEAKER_08]: I just have to sign.

[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I've waited for that. [SPEAKER_06]: I don't want to say something real quick about, you know, like the Supreme Court decision and all these things that are happening. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, it is going to be a disaster for the Republicans because I don't know if you saw the reports in Texas and South Texas, there are farms. [SPEAKER_06]: They're basically shutting down because nobody's showing up because they're afraid.

[SPEAKER_03]: We have an article about that. [SPEAKER_03]: And you need to in today's news on tap that talks about just that. [SPEAKER_03]: How it's basically a ghost town down there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_06]: And so you, and in the same in California, it's happening all over the place. [SPEAKER_06]: These people, they were war. [SPEAKER_06]: It will collapse the economy.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I wonder how many people, because you've been to everybody's been seeing this, you know, we call them F-A-F-O. [SPEAKER_06]: That are just like, oh, you know, I didn't think he meant my construction crew, right? [SPEAKER_06]: I can't get it done. [SPEAKER_06]: These white boys I'm hiring can't do what, you know, have to work and, you know, like one guy was saying, he had [SPEAKER_06]: It took four white guys took them four days.

[SPEAKER_06]: He hired some white guys to do with his usual crew of he had Honduras and Guatemala doing a day. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: Because they're hard workers trying to make it here. [SPEAKER_06]: Great. [SPEAKER_06]: They don't want to pick the crops. [SPEAKER_06]: Americans don't want to do that. [SPEAKER_06]: They're not for the pay. [SPEAKER_06]: No. [SPEAKER_06]: In the factories, they were always immigrants that took those jobs. [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[SPEAKER_06]: They were trying to make it. [SPEAKER_06]: My grandparents trying to make it in America. [SPEAKER_08]: And then Donald wants to know again, save the farmer, not the farmer workers. [SPEAKER_08]: He wants to save the owners of said farms. [SPEAKER_08]: And my view is, and I've said this a million times, if you want to go after. [SPEAKER_08]: immigration undocumented immigrants and the and the jobs then go after the people that are hiring them. [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_08]: Well, that's then we're going to happen. [SPEAKER_08]: Of course not. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: All right. [SPEAKER_06]: And it puts it puts the target on the back of the people that are, you know, that brown. [SPEAKER_06]: Because they're looking because they're afraid to hire them. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: So that's my only fear about that. [SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to come.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to come back in a whole lot of ways, even ways that we haven't yet understood, but the long in the short is that eventually they will go away in the young people who are coming up. [SPEAKER_03]: There's some good folks and they are going to, yeah, they're going to have to clean some things up, but they're going to make some changes. [SPEAKER_01]: So it is the end of the evening. [SPEAKER_03]: I know it went really fast. [SPEAKER_01]: We got the fourth and July next week.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see you in, I think. [SPEAKER_01]: Two weeks. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we're taking next Friday off. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, that was a great holiday. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Great. [SPEAKER_09]: What did you buy? [SPEAKER_08]: Don't you want to hear from you on Tuesday, right? [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, absolutely. [SPEAKER_08]: I will be there on Tuesday.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess Jody will be in steps out on Tuesday because Steph is still working on Tuesday and Wednesday and so are we. [SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see you actually. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be here next Monday. [SPEAKER_03]: We have some good people next week. [SPEAKER_03]: We are. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to see if we can get a legal expert Chris guide or we'll check and see if we can get him. [SPEAKER_03]: We know Brooklyn dad's going to be in. [SPEAKER_03]: We know that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here's going to be here and Bob says that as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it'll be a good lineup. [SPEAKER_03]: So join us next week right here at the polls. [SPEAKER_03]: Have yourself a good weekend. [SPEAKER_03]: Don't drink a drive. [SPEAKER_03]: Goodnight. [SPEAKER_07]: Goodnight. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.