Empathy Matters July 7, 2025

[SPEAKER_04]: Well, let it go. [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_12]: Ready? [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, Lord, Lord, Lord, it's Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: How you doing, girl? [SPEAKER_09]: I'm alright, how are you, sir? [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, well, it was a long weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: It was not a horrible weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I did have some fun, but there was a lot of, let's just say there was a flood of garbage. [SPEAKER_09]: Can we say that? [SPEAKER_09]: We can say that.

[SPEAKER_10]: There's flooding in all sorts of ways. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and folks it was not the good guys. [SPEAKER_09]: It was hot out there and it was wet out there, but it was not hot and wet in a good way. [SPEAKER_09]: Very true. [SPEAKER_09]: We are glad that you are here with us on a Monday evening at the politics bar with [SPEAKER_09]: The one and only Jody Hamilton in myself, Sean Smith Pierce. [SPEAKER_09]: We've got a great lineup of guests for you this week.

[SPEAKER_09]: We've got David Jolly tomorrow, a rude pundit later in the week. [SPEAKER_09]: Bob will be in John will be in, um, Canada needed to. [SPEAKER_09]: We've got a couple other fingers out there to a couple of folks who might come in, so just, uh, you know, stick with us as you usually do. [SPEAKER_09]: We do have a great drink of the day today as well. [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, [SPEAKER_09]: We've got your news on tap.

[SPEAKER_09]: Big thanks, of course, to everybody who was listening to us on our great affiliates. [SPEAKER_09]: Like WCPT, AMA, twenty AM- nine fifty online, Minneapolis, Saint Paul, America, one radio in Atlanta, D to or talk radio in the Tri-City area in Tennessee. [SPEAKER_09]: And of course, progressive voices radio wherever you happen to be or hey, if you're listening to us on podcast, thank you, future people. [SPEAKER_10]: People have the future. [SPEAKER_10]: What has happened?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it would have been nice if in Texas, they would have actually had some kind of future. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, wait, they did. [SPEAKER_09]: They did. [SPEAKER_09]: They had lots of warnings. [SPEAKER_09]: How do you feel about it? [SPEAKER_09]: I know you and I were talking as we came in today. [SPEAKER_09]: Obviously, I feel awful for the families of all those dead now. [SPEAKER_09]: It's ninety plus. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just hoping for that.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's just bad. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I feel for what's, I mean, how do you feel about it? [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I'm sad that they had an opportunity in Flash flood alley. [SPEAKER_10]: I think is what they call this area. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: That they miss the opportunity to spend money wisely to get at least an aerate, siren warning system like for tornadoes and what we used to have for drop drills and during the Vietnam War.

[SPEAKER_10]: So that there's at least ten minutes, five minutes warning. [SPEAKER_10]: Some sort of warning so that those kids, I mean, [SPEAKER_09]: and the campers and the adults with them. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, just anything to wake these people up because yes, it was posted on their Facebook page. [SPEAKER_10]: Great. [SPEAKER_10]: But that camp in particular, they couldn't get cell service. [SPEAKER_10]: So there was no obviously no internet.

[SPEAKER_10]: And whether they have televisions or not, it's irrelevant because they were all asleep at the time. [SPEAKER_10]: And if they were watching the weather, [SPEAKER_10]: They probably didn't realize how bad it was going to be, because according to a woman that called, I believe Stephanie this morning, she said, no, we were warned that there could have been what they called a rain bomb. [SPEAKER_10]: And so unless you were told that, and I'm sorry, I've been to camp.

[SPEAKER_10]: Nobody's paying attention to anything but the kids. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, all of these kinds of things are reasons why growing up in the Midwest, you learn especially if you're interested in weather. [SPEAKER_09]: You learn a lot about the weather systems and a lot of not just the the [SPEAKER_09]: weather systems themselves, but the systems that we use to report weather, we use to alert people about them.

[SPEAKER_09]: The whole reason that they use the World War II era bomb sirens when they started doing that stuff with weather was because those things can air at any time day or night. [SPEAKER_09]: You don't have to have any type of communication. [SPEAKER_09]: We have a phone, you don't have a TV, you don't even if you're not even getting radio service. [SPEAKER_09]: You still know if something like that goes off. [SPEAKER_09]: Something's wrong.

[SPEAKER_09]: Something's wrong and that you should check with authorities in your area. [SPEAKER_09]: Check with, you know, if you got a, you know, if you're in a small town, bad radio service or whatever, you pick up the landline phone that you got. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, or if you're at a camp, for example, there are camps that are along the plat river in Nebraska that I know of. [SPEAKER_09]: Some are camps similar to the ones down in Texas. [SPEAKER_09]: They all got access to those horns.

[SPEAKER_09]: You, you will hear those air raid sirens if there's a tornado warning there in Nebraska. [SPEAKER_09]: The thing that bothered me too is, and there are multiple things with this. [SPEAKER_09]: First things first is that the Texas authorities right off the bat many of them tried to blame the National Weather Service and NOAA for this.

[SPEAKER_09]: God love NPR, Noah, uh, National Weather Service, you know, all the, the public services that we pay money to that Republicans, especially the maggots trash time it again, that they have gutted it in this stupid ass bill, the pandemic. [SPEAKER_10]: And they have gutted it, which could have contributed to some of the problem, but not all of it. [SPEAKER_09]: No, not not all of it. [SPEAKER_09]: But there's a Jim Spencer. [SPEAKER_09]: He's a meteorologist at KXA in.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's a station in Austin, Texas. [SPEAKER_09]: So he posted this over the weekend and he said, OK, he said, here's the thing currently at our local National Weather Service office due to, you know, basically some of the do stuff and early retirement, whatever. [SPEAKER_09]: These are the positions that are missing right now. [SPEAKER_09]: They're empty. [SPEAKER_09]: They're open. [SPEAKER_09]: So they had warning and coordination meteorologist position.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it's the position for the person who coordinates warnings. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm with you on that one, Judd. [SPEAKER_09]: They also had two open meteorologist positions who are on call twenty four seven. [SPEAKER_09]: They had a hydrologist position open. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, hydrologist who projects floods. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And they had a couple of other positions open as well.

[SPEAKER_09]: So he says, I don't know if that was the reason why the things didn't quite get out, but even with all those people missing. [SPEAKER_09]: And PR did a fantastic timeline. [SPEAKER_09]: We have it in the news on tap today at politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_09]: They did a literal minute by minute rundown at times, if you will.

[SPEAKER_09]: So Thursday, July, third, eight, forty, seven a.m. [SPEAKER_09]: The Texas Division of Emergency Management posted on X, which according to Trump and Musk, that's what they're supposed to do. [SPEAKER_09]: They posted guidance in both English and Spanish informing people that, you know, be aware there is a flood threat in the West and Central Texas communities. [SPEAKER_09]: One-eighteen PM National Weather Service in Austin, San Antonio issued a flood wash.

[SPEAKER_09]: Two-thirty-five flood wash was announced on X. Six-ten PM National Weather Service's Weather Prediction Center issued an assessment for Texas Hill Country about heavy rainfall mentioning, quote, flash flooding likely. [SPEAKER_10]: No, it was only posted on X because if that's it, that's not. [SPEAKER_09]: Thankfully, thankfully, they posted it elsewhere because National Weather Service has permission to post it elsewhere.

[SPEAKER_09]: But the long and short is that these people put out, uh, uh, uh, uh, but it's a lemon forty one, National Weather Service posted a flash flood warning, eleven forty two, they upgraded it, uh, to a flood warning, uh, for the impacted area. [SPEAKER_09]: They were doing this. [SPEAKER_09]: They were on the ball even though they had basically both arms and one leg tied behind their back. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: They were still on the ball doing this and afterwards NPR on the ball. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Making sure that everybody knows and who wasn't on the ball. [SPEAKER_09]: Officials in Texas, officials that the people who live in Texas elected, and those people will blame the government, blame the government, blame the government, blame somebody else. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it was their fault. [SPEAKER_09]: They were involved.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, they're blaming Joe Biden. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_10]: He's been in the out of office for six months almost. [SPEAKER_09]: And I think DHS Barbie blamed Biden. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe heard that it was Steph this morning. [SPEAKER_10]: I was like, what the, what the, what the hell could he have done? [SPEAKER_10]: What the, yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry, and the thing is they're saying it's a once in a hundred year flood. [SPEAKER_10]: No, it's not.

[SPEAKER_10]: We're getting these things once in a hundred years every five to ten years now. [SPEAKER_10]: So it's no longer once in a century. [SPEAKER_09]: This is talked to any of the meteorologists what they will tell you is those once in a hundred year once in a thousand year. [SPEAKER_09]: I I took a lot of what's called physical geography classes in college. [SPEAKER_09]: If I had if I had taken a few more, I probably I could have gone into meteorology, but that's a whole thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: Those estimates were based on the past hundred years. [SPEAKER_09]: Usually that's what their basis is up. [SPEAKER_09]: And we are in the period of time right now where the weather patterns, patterns themselves, the basic patterns are changing faster than they've ever changed in the human era. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, jet streams are changing, which is causing problems, whether it's drought or flooding or all kinds of, I mean, all of the stuff.

[SPEAKER_09]: And so the idea of, well, to, you know, yes, it's a wanted, it would, it would have been a once in a hundred year flood if we didn't have climate change, because we had climate change. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not once and a hundred years. [SPEAKER_10]: And that's my problem with, with part of the stupid bill is that they took away renewables and are giving now credits again to these,

[SPEAKER_09]: energy companies that that don't need them first off coal might but come on let's get off of coal and there are companies certainly don't you are people jodied the work in coal now in the entire coal industry there are fewer people than work in the green energy energy industry in the United States if you're worried about jobs which one of these two are you going to be worried about yeah they just I don't I don't we are the dumbest country

[SPEAKER_09]: We have the dumbest country, and we have a lot of people who still, they want to say, well, you know, it wasn't the Texas elected people's fault, and it wasn't this fault, you know what folks? [SPEAKER_09]: I know whose fault it was. [SPEAKER_09]: And quite frankly, [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not going to blame some of the people that are here in the bar with us tonight because they're coming in and we enjoy that. [SPEAKER_09]: And we enjoy you guys coming into the bar forever.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's that's fine. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, you know, you guys can always come into the bar and enjoy a silently or you can post if you want to on our social media. [SPEAKER_09]: You can go to blue sky or threads or Instagram, Facebook, even Twitter, X, whatever you want to call it. [SPEAKER_09]: You can call us two one three six seven seven seven seven seven seventy two fifty eight two one three six seven seven. [SPEAKER_09]: Salt. [SPEAKER_09]: You can leave your messages.

[SPEAKER_09]: We'll call you back. [SPEAKER_09]: You guys are probably decent people. [SPEAKER_09]: You read the news. [SPEAKER_09]: You breathe the news on tap. [SPEAKER_09]: We put out you listen. [SPEAKER_09]: You listen to shows and and you take in shows that that discuss facts and we appreciate that. [SPEAKER_09]: But of the people who voted, especially in areas like Texas, the people who voted there were dumbasses and I'm not going to be sad about it.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm there a lot of people who would say that that I am making it political when I say that or that I'm being cruel. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, it's cruel. [SPEAKER_09]: um about four dozen kids dead because they went to summer camp because the adults in their state didn't think that it was worth it to spend the money [SPEAKER_09]: on an early warning system, so that their camp counselors could save their lives. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I did, that's one of the counselors got bless them.

[SPEAKER_10]: The did parish was really trying to save them. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't blame the counselors. [SPEAKER_09]: They know it's not their fault. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But it's, it is very definitely the fault of the legislators. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's very definitely the fall to the idiots in Texas. [SPEAKER_09]: And idiots like this across the country who voted for these damn maggot Republicans.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, you know, Texas is more purple than it shows, by the way. [SPEAKER_10]: So, and I mean, they were close to Austin and San Antonio, so most likely a lot of the people that were there [SPEAKER_10]: a lot of people that did not vote for this. [SPEAKER_10]: It's just, what sad is, I did read that the proposition for the air raid siren warnings and all of these things in flash flood alley or whatever they call it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, we have that.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's from the Texas Tribune, which is a Texas Tribune is a fantastic, fantastic journalistic organization at Texas State Republicans failed to pass a bill to improve local disaster warning systems this year.

[SPEAKER_09]: They literally had a chance [SPEAKER_09]: and they did nothing instead actually actually believe they they they added another uh... tax break for the rich i believe a state white tax break in taxes so they can find money to put money back in the pockets of people who don't need the money but they couldn't find a little bit of money [SPEAKER_09]: sent up an air raid system.

[SPEAKER_10]: I also did read though, I mean, and not in their defense, but apparently a lot of this would have not been in place for that particular disaster. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: The fact that they should have done it ten years ago. [SPEAKER_10]: They should have done it a long time ago. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, I'd like, yes, we get like during the fires here last January, we all of us in this neighborhood, our phones went off.

[SPEAKER_10]: And luckily it was a mistake because they're like, you gotta evacuate. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm like, there's no fire near here, you know? [SPEAKER_10]: And they're like, sorry, that was a mistake, but not everybody has a cell phone. [SPEAKER_10]: Everybody has cell towers. [SPEAKER_10]: And so it's like, that's not the thing. [SPEAKER_10]: You need air raid sirens, especially in rural areas or campgrounds. [SPEAKER_10]: Come on. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, there are lots of solutions out there.

[SPEAKER_09]: But unfortunately, we got a whole lot of people who they don't want to pay attention to solutions. [SPEAKER_09]: They don't want to invest in their fellow citizens. [SPEAKER_09]: But we'll have to talk about it more. [SPEAKER_09]: As you can tell, it's, it's something that bothers me and it bothers me for a lot of reasons, but you know, when kids die, I get really bad about it. [SPEAKER_10]: No, it's, it's, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: We got more news on tap.

[SPEAKER_09]: We do have Brooklyn Data Fight coming in and we got that drink of the day coming up. [SPEAKER_09]: So look, chill out. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll try to relax. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a Monday night here at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Get something to drink. [SPEAKER_11]: Right back. [SPEAKER_11]: After we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: We're back on a Monday night and I realize for some folks you still got that weekend kind of a jet lag thing going.

[SPEAKER_09]: Been with you. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm totally there. [SPEAKER_09]: I totally understand you can you can probably hear my voice too. [SPEAKER_09]: It was a long weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: Hopefully you had some good things in the weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: Hopefully you did too, Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: I think you said you went to a party. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, there was a our neighbor across the street texted Lonnie on Friday.

[SPEAKER_10]: Like after we had already gone to have really nice Mexican food at one of our favorite restaurants. [SPEAKER_10]: And it was a pool party. [SPEAKER_10]: So we went over there and just hung out with some of our neighbors. [SPEAKER_10]: And, you know, the commute was terrible because we had to walk like twenty five feet. [SPEAKER_10]: traffic was a nightmare.

[SPEAKER_09]: I actually I hopped on the metro on Thursday and went down and met a friend of mine drew who was in from Detroit and his friend Mike who was in from Austin and we all hung out and you know had late lunch went to some of Sony went to the Asian Art Museum which is nice [SPEAKER_09]: really great. [SPEAKER_09]: It's and anyway, so and then we went out and we hung out in the Smithsonian garden area behind the castle.

[SPEAKER_09]: If you've been there, there's the National Mall, there's the old, the main Smithsonian castle, and then they had this really cool garden behind it. [SPEAKER_09]: So if you go behind the garden, there is the streets that basically it parallels the National Mall.

[SPEAKER_09]: On any normal long holiday week, especially like the Fourth of July, in any normal year, for those of us who've been in the DC metro area long time, I mean, the sidewalks, yes, they're huge, but they're packed, especially on a day, I mean Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you're gonna, they're gonna be people there. [SPEAKER_09]: There was an eighth of a mile stretch right behind the museum, right there by the guard that I could look down, not a single soul on the sidewalk.

[SPEAKER_09]: So weird. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, as a couple of people I was talking with on the Metro on the way back and they're like, yeah, they said, do you notice there's there's like almost no foreign tourists? [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'm surprised. [SPEAKER_10]: They don't want to get deported. [SPEAKER_09]: They don't want to get arrested and right and rounded up or stop in the way in because they have a funny meme of JD fans on their phone.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I mean, my niece, my niece just split for France. [SPEAKER_10]: She gets back into the country on the sixteenth. [SPEAKER_10]: So hopefully she'll make it by me. [SPEAKER_10]: She's a white girl. [SPEAKER_10]: She'll probably make it back just fine. [SPEAKER_09]: But the fact is that I, you know, I had I had a little bit of fun, but I did I arrested a lot hanging out my dog my wife worked. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, you know, it was just it was one of those where I I wasn't.

[SPEAKER_09]: I wasn't celebrating the way that I would have done in passport July. [SPEAKER_09]: And we have this in the news on to have today as well. [SPEAKER_09]: Donald Trump began the weekend by not only signing the big ugly awful horrendous disastrous bill. [SPEAKER_09]: But saying that he hated Democrats and that what Democrats were evil or something like that. [SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, seriously, dude. [SPEAKER_09]: Inside voice, inside voice, Donald, inside voice.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's how he started the weekend. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, then he did the anti-Semitic. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: He used to term not to offend. [SPEAKER_09]: I'll use the term once just so that people who haven't heard it's called Shester. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, he said, Shilok. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, Shilok. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: Shilok. [SPEAKER_09]: Which was the name of a person is the German version I believe of that.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's that's [SPEAKER_09]: That's what my, my granddad, he used to call somebody because that's, it's like calling somebody a welcher, a liar, a cheater. [SPEAKER_09]: It has a very anti-Semitic tone to it. [SPEAKER_09]: Donald, who has been caught using this word before has, you know, said, oh, well, I didn't mean to. [SPEAKER_10]: I didn't even know what it meant. [SPEAKER_10]: It's like, dude, you're old enough to know what it means. [SPEAKER_10]: And he's used it before.

[SPEAKER_10]: And of course he has. [SPEAKER_10]: He's the most anti-Semitic. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not sure it's Steven Miller is worse. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm not quite sure who's working on it. [SPEAKER_09]: Steven Miller is a self-loathing Jew who is probably one of the most anti-Semitic people. [SPEAKER_09]: He told us. [SPEAKER_09]: I honestly think that, you know, Herman Gobels would have been like, oh, you're my protege. [SPEAKER_09]: You're great. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, awful, awful human being.

[SPEAKER_09]: But there are a lot of awful things that came down in this big disaster's bill. [SPEAKER_09]: Just massive stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: There is a health center in Nebraska that a lot of the national media and a lot of local media was talking about that already said that they're going to close it. [SPEAKER_09]: Actually, technically two, but one of the stories was didn't get that much coverage. [SPEAKER_09]: a lot of the people who are saying and you'll hear this throughout a lot of media.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, well, but they've backloaded a lot of the stuff from the big ugly bill, so that it'll hit Democrats in twenty twenty seven. [SPEAKER_09]: Charles Gabba, who I've mentioned before, the data experts with the ACA stuff AC signups.net. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, he has provided a ton of information on this. [SPEAKER_09]: I think I said this the other day and he said he may lose his family may lose their own insurance coverage through the ACA.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: The ACA cuts are going to start six months from now in January when people have to re-up their insurance if their insurance is through the ACA and all the subsidies. [SPEAKER_09]: So many of the subsidies which are all of them, but most of the subsidies got it by these Republicans. [SPEAKER_09]: So people will go and either they won't be able to afford it, or they'll have to choose a crappier plan and pay more for it.

[SPEAKER_09]: This goes along with the Texas floods in that. [SPEAKER_09]: When this hits people, especially Magavoters, [SPEAKER_09]: People who voted for Donald Trump, people who voted for people who don't want to actually do the job of thinking and do the job of governing. [SPEAKER_09]: They just, they want an authoritarian dictator. [SPEAKER_09]: They want somebody to tell them how to think and how to feel. [SPEAKER_09]: They voted for this.

[SPEAKER_09]: So when they say, well, but I didn't vote for this. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you did. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you did. [SPEAKER_09]: Does dead girls? [SPEAKER_09]: If that can't, you voted for that too. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and your higher energy bills. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and the blackouts, they'll probably come from that. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you vote for that, too. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, yeah, I mean, especially in Texas, I mean, they're the rolling blackouts. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and the measles.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, that's not just for Texas. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'm getting blood tests on Friday for my physical. [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm going to ask my doctor to add measles immunity test, because I was born in a nineteen sixty seven, and there is a possibility that my immunity is waned. [UNKNOWN]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: No, that's, I mean, that's important. [SPEAKER_09]: That's a good thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: But that's, uh, yeah, it's a US measles cases are now at record numbers, thirty three year high. [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of this stuff all boils down to the people who, well, I didn't like Kamala Harris. [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't love her, so I didn't vote for her. [SPEAKER_09]: And there's, there's a lot of problem. [SPEAKER_09]: And yeah, we can blame some of the maggots and we can blame the maggots. [SPEAKER_09]: We can absolutely blame the maggots because they're stupid.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I get this. [SPEAKER_09]: and they could have been taught. [SPEAKER_09]: They could have been told by some of their own sources. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about this later, but something it's kind of a distraction, but it just shows that Donald Trump and his regime don't even care about if they lie to Fox News. [SPEAKER_09]: They do not care. [SPEAKER_09]: They do not care who they lie to. [SPEAKER_09]: They do not care about anybody here in America. [SPEAKER_09]: They don't.

[SPEAKER_09]: They may have technical control over, but they sure don't care about Americans. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, even Joe Rogan is concerned, finally. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, nice to hear him finally be concerned. [SPEAKER_09]: What have been great if he would have pulled his head out of his ass and been a little bit more concerned, say before the election? [SPEAKER_09]: We tried. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I know. [SPEAKER_09]: I know.

[SPEAKER_09]: And we, you know, I know that I know on Bob show, I know Stephanie Barrow's at two sometimes. [SPEAKER_09]: The, you were warned. [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: They were all warned. [SPEAKER_09]: God knows they were warned. [SPEAKER_09]: We, I have been trying to warn people about this kind of thing for years. [SPEAKER_09]: Mike Mike my friend drew his friend Mike.

[SPEAKER_09]: He asked me he said, you know, God, it sounds like you've been like doing this kind of thing like you know left leaning and messaging and radio and media for for years. [SPEAKER_09]: I said, yeah, he said, how far back did you know how bad things were going to be? [SPEAKER_09]: I said, ninety four. [SPEAKER_09]: I think looked at me and goes, what do you mean? [SPEAKER_09]: Anchorage.

[SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: When Newt Gingrich said, [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't remember who the interview was with, and I've tried to find it in the interviewing years, and prior to the ubiquity of the internet age, it's prior to basically around two thousand, two thousand, two, it's a little bit harder to find some clips. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: It just is. [SPEAKER_09]: Some just don't exist out there. [SPEAKER_09]: But I remember seeing an interview with New Gingert.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm pretty sure it was on CNN. [SPEAKER_09]: And basically, to paraphrase him, he was saying that we want total control of the government. [SPEAKER_09]: And the three words I remember him saying are, at all costs. [SPEAKER_09]: When you say, I want power at all costs. [SPEAKER_09]: At all costs means dead kids in Texas. [SPEAKER_09]: At all costs means your grandma getting thrown out of her nursing home because they cut off her Medicare and her Medicaid.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, and it's the thing, it's people are like, well, you, it's able-bodied people that are supposed to be working. [SPEAKER_10]: The problem is if Medicaid isn't paying and doesn't have the money, then said nursing homes will be closed because that's how they get their money is through Medicaid. [SPEAKER_09]: And yes, they have made the Republican bill through up a whole bunch of paperwork.

[SPEAKER_09]: When Joe Biden got in one of the things that he and Harrison, the Democrats did was they got rid of a bunch of the stupid paperwork and a bunch of the stupid problems. [SPEAKER_09]: They reduced a lot of that crap because it frustrated Americans and it added problems to an already frustrating day. [SPEAKER_09]: This is just this is what they did. [SPEAKER_09]: They did that with Medicare Medicaid too.

[SPEAKER_09]: And there was a lot of that stuff and people, well, I didn't see it. [SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't, it wasn't completely blanketing the news coverage and it didn't come up and punch me in the face. [SPEAKER_09]: Therefore, I don't remember it. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, I have friends that are on Medicare. [SPEAKER_10]: And they're like, well, that one effect medicale, I'm like, no, medicale is medicate. [SPEAKER_10]: That's the problem.

[SPEAKER_10]: It's like, people that liked connect in Kentucky, which is, oh, mama Karen Kentucky. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I don't need no, but yeah, honey, it's the same. [SPEAKER_10]: And that's the unfortunate thing about states calling it different things, even though it's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: Because covered Cal is what they call it here for for the it's why I have I have said for years, um, perfect example with this is when when the media says, well, GOP says this and and Republicans ain't no no no, do not use GOP for the most part do not use GOP because there are millions of people out there. [SPEAKER_09]: who literally think that there's the GOP and there's Republicans. [SPEAKER_09]: They think these are two different things.

[SPEAKER_09]: Just like they think, there's the ACA and Obamacare. [SPEAKER_09]: When these are exactly the same freaking thing. [SPEAKER_09]: And I get that a lot of these states in order to try to get people on. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, horn swaggle people into something that was good for them. [SPEAKER_09]: change the name. [SPEAKER_09]: So people say, well, I hate Medicaid because that's for those dirty poor people over there.

[SPEAKER_09]: But, you know, my state's version of it isn't called that. [SPEAKER_09]: So it's something different. [SPEAKER_09]: No, you dumbass. [SPEAKER_09]: We had to call out that because you're so ignorant. [SPEAKER_09]: You won't freaking learn. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, Andy Bitscher is very upset with the bill. [SPEAKER_10]: And especially because of Medicare, Medicaid excuse me, especially because of them both. [SPEAKER_10]: But Medicaid is going to hit more people.

[SPEAKER_09]: A lot of this stuff is not going to wait until twenty twenty seven. [SPEAKER_09]: It's going to start happening. [SPEAKER_09]: It's starting to happen already now and it's going to really amp up in about six months. [SPEAKER_09]: When the ACA plans when people suddenly go to renew their ACA plan and they find that they got screwed by the Republicans. [SPEAKER_09]: And this is something that I wish more of our media would say, stop being afraid to lay the blame where it belongs.

[SPEAKER_10]: I agree. [SPEAKER_09]: Publicans screwed us all and so did the people who voted for them. [SPEAKER_09]: What? [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, I know Janine at the church is very nice. [SPEAKER_09]: She's a friend of whoever you are here in the bar. [SPEAKER_09]: That's fantastic. [SPEAKER_09]: Janine is also a moron who didn't pay attention and now she's probably going to lose her Medicaid.

[SPEAKER_09]: So [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, the other thing is is up until I think this year, when the Republicans would put those little bombs going off when intentionally the Democrats are going to take back over. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: Which does suggest to me since they put those in there, they think we're going to have elections. [SPEAKER_10]: So yay. [SPEAKER_10]: Silver line. [SPEAKER_10]: Silver line. [SPEAKER_10]: You know, you got to look for that.

[SPEAKER_10]: But the fact of the matter is, they've been doing this for years. [SPEAKER_10]: And they always try to, you know, make it so that, okay, Democrats probably getting it in or the Democrats are probably going to get in to the house and the Senate or the presidency, whatever it is. [SPEAKER_10]: So let's have it happen then so that people think it's their fault.

[SPEAKER_10]: The problem is social media nowadays, more people have that information that, hey, hold the phone here, kids, look at the bill. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, a friend of mine literally quoted the exact language in the no tips, no tax on tips thing. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: Which is very legally opposed about that, too. [SPEAKER_09]: It is, when is it's a twenty five thousand cap or something?

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, there's a cap, but if you make, if you make under twenty five thousand dollars, you can not be taxed on your tips. [SPEAKER_10]: If you make over that, then you are going to continue getting taxed on your tips. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're a dirt ass porn and, you know, didn't really collect any tips. [SPEAKER_09]: Anyway, congratulations. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, and of course, you know, no, no, no, no tax on cash. [SPEAKER_10]: Nobody reports it. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: And this, this, oh, we, we got rid of taxes and Social Security that they sent you. [SPEAKER_09]: That was BS too. [SPEAKER_09]: We've got a story on that. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no, my sister. [SPEAKER_10]: She's like, well, there are some write-offs. [SPEAKER_10]: This is, yeah, but not everybody's going to get that right off. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: And in order to get the right-offs, basically, you have to be, guess what? [SPEAKER_09]: Rich? [SPEAKER_09]: Well, here.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: This, this, this is the, the failure of our media is one of the throughline stories of the last twenty-five years. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's why we're, we're, we're at, and look, [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you know me. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't I don't shy away from blame in the people who we work with in our industry. [SPEAKER_09]: Some of them that suck and some of them that are great.

[SPEAKER_09]: Hey, you know, I give credit to the people who are great. [SPEAKER_09]: Actually, I am hoping to see we should also check and see if we can get in some of the some of the great talent that are local affiliates, too, like Richard Chew or Patty Vasquez from WCPT. [SPEAKER_09]: Matt Nick Niel, him and I were having a little conversation about this. [SPEAKER_09]: He's on AM-Nine-Fifty in the Apple St. [SPEAKER_09]: Paul or Ron Roberts. [SPEAKER_09]: I had a little back forth.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think with him over the July fourth holiday as well. [SPEAKER_09]: He's great in America. [SPEAKER_09]: One, these are knowledgeable people. [SPEAKER_09]: There are knowledgeable people. [SPEAKER_09]: in your community that are in more local media. [SPEAKER_09]: It's not just us in national media too, but yes, there are some some arrogant jerks. [SPEAKER_09]: I saw a piece from Jeff Jarvis, fantastic professor who I have communicated with any number of times over the years.

[SPEAKER_09]: Noting that Jake Tapper has always been kind of a snake about some of the stuff and that Jake Tapper has always made clear that his one audience that's most important to him is Jake Tapper. [SPEAKER_09]: So [SPEAKER_09]: You know, we're all learning a little bit, but nobody's going to be able to dodge the blame on this one folks, but there's lots of blame to go around. [SPEAKER_09]: So there is lots of good news to there is some some good news.

[SPEAKER_09]: We will get to that coming up and we'll bring in the drink of the day. [SPEAKER_09]: So look, we'll get off the negative stuff. [SPEAKER_09]: I understand it's a Monday. [SPEAKER_09]: You need positivity. [SPEAKER_09]: We can do that for you. [SPEAKER_09]: It's Jodie Hamilton and me Sean Smith beers at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: Get yourself another round and come back hang on. [SPEAKER_11]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Get to all the goodies including the drink of the day, which we will get to here very short. [SPEAKER_09]: I just, we were talking here in the break and yeah, we apologize for what a friend of mine in modern rock radio. [SPEAKER_09]: She's being modern rock. [SPEAKER_09]: I think she does more classic rock these days, but I first met her when we were working at a station complex. [SPEAKER_09]: I was in the classic rock side.

[SPEAKER_09]: She was in the modern rock side and she would call the stitch in bitch. [SPEAKER_09]: So you're sitting there in the studio with her and and you guys are just talking. [SPEAKER_09]: You're like, Oh, this sucks and that sucks. [SPEAKER_09]: And then I went and she says, Hang on, I have to do a break. [SPEAKER_09]: So she goes on and she says something like, Oh, the Osborne's last concert and Lars from a teleka was there. [SPEAKER_09]: And now here's this.

[SPEAKER_09]: And of course, place the ad and then she's just stitching with her little cross stitch and then and just [SPEAKER_09]: And you're going the way to minute you just you were like this and now you're doing cross stitch. [SPEAKER_09]: She's. [SPEAKER_09]: She's called stitch and bitch and I think for our first couple of segments here at the bar tonight we were kind of doing a stitch and bitch angry.

[SPEAKER_09]: Look. [SPEAKER_09]: There's sometimes there is just a lot of garbage that's out there and you just get frustrated. [SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, even us here at your favorite bar, we get frustrated too. [SPEAKER_09]: That's how it is. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're frustrated, or if you're happy, if you like what we're doing, you can always leave us a voicemail and we'll maybe get you on here. [SPEAKER_09]: Two, one, three, six, seven, seven, seven, seven, two, five, eight.

[SPEAKER_09]: That's two, one, three, six, seven, seven, salt. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, so what's changed mood? [SPEAKER_09]: Let's change it to, well, Jodie is not a bubbly blonde. [SPEAKER_09]: She is a positive red head. [SPEAKER_10]: Red head depends on the month. [SPEAKER_10]: How many weeks into said month? [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, okay, but I think that's I believe that's that the drink of the day has to do with bubbly blonde. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, Lisa, that's how I view it.

[SPEAKER_10]: And don't lie either. [SPEAKER_09]: No kidding, no kidding. [SPEAKER_10]: Do you want me to do it? [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, go for it. [SPEAKER_10]: Today's drink of the day is a bubbly French blonde. [SPEAKER_10]: Excellent. [SPEAKER_10]: So it's all for saying. [SPEAKER_10]: So you get a coop glass, which kind of looks like an old school champagne glass, but it's more angled. [SPEAKER_10]: It's not quite as round. [SPEAKER_10]: It's in the picture.

[SPEAKER_10]: You need ice for the ice shaker. [SPEAKER_10]: Two and a half ounces of freshly squeezed grapefruit juice. [SPEAKER_10]: Now a lot of people don't like, I love grapefruit juice, personally. [SPEAKER_08]: I like grapefruit juice too. [SPEAKER_10]: That's fantastic. [SPEAKER_10]: And one and a quarter ounces of the let-block, which is kind of a souvenir-block grape mainly with a little bit of orange. [SPEAKER_09]: Kind of flavor to it. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm kind of mixed into it.

[SPEAKER_09]: There is a link in the recipe. [SPEAKER_09]: If you're interested in learning more about little, little, little. [SPEAKER_10]: It's an imperative. [SPEAKER_10]: Three quarters of an ounce of dry gin always go top shelf because it tastes better. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes. [SPEAKER_10]: Three quarters of an ounce of elder flour, La Cure. [SPEAKER_10]: Some people don't like it. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm okay with it if it's mixed with certain things. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, this is hopefully.

[SPEAKER_10]: And then a splash of chilled champagne and an edible flower and a slice of grapefruit for garners. [SPEAKER_10]: So you decide what you want to put there. [SPEAKER_09]: So how do we make this bubbly French one? [SPEAKER_10]: So what you do is you add the grapefruit juice, the lilet plank, gin, and the elder flower like you are to a shaker and fill that with ice, shake it for fifteen to twenty seconds, strain into the glass, the coop glass.

[SPEAKER_10]: Then you top it with a splash or sandpan, garnish it with the flour or the slice of grapefruit. [SPEAKER_10]: It sounds refreshing. [SPEAKER_09]: It sounds great. [SPEAKER_09]: It sounds very refreshing. [SPEAKER_09]: Unlike the BS blonde that we are subtly referring to at the White House, who is completely idiotic.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you said that she lied about what the other blonde lies about We'll go into that look if you if you missed anything on our drink of the day here, you miss any part of the show You can always find it at the politics bar dot com that is it does sound like a really refreshing drink But this was not necessarily refreshing So one of the pieces of news that came out over the weekend was It to me it's it's distraction news.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's stupid [SPEAKER_09]: But a lot of people are interested. [SPEAKER_09]: So Trump's DOJ and FBI after a supposedly long investigation. [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know if I believe that right, exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Concluded that Jeffrey Epstein had no client list and died by suicide in jail. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you remember this, Jody, but back in February, DOJ, Barbie, aka Pam Bondi went on Fox and actually said this.

[SPEAKER_07]: The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that really happened. [SPEAKER_00]: It's sitting on my desk right now to review. [SPEAKER_00]: That's been a directive by President Trump. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm reviewing that. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm reviewing JFK files and Mel K files. [SPEAKER_00]: That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies.

[SPEAKER_07]: So if you've seen anything, you said, oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_10]: Not yet. [SPEAKER_10]: They were looking for Clinton. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and we all know if they would have found Brooklyn, they would have. [SPEAKER_09]: So, so that was, that was February. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: This was today BS Barbie Carolyn Levitts was asked by Steve Dosey, who is who works for the Fox News. [SPEAKER_09]: Peter Dosey, pardon me, Steve is his dad.

[SPEAKER_09]: Peter, yes, the younger, the younger Dosey, the one that Jen Psaki always used to dunk on because Peter is well, kind of Dosey. [SPEAKER_10]: He's not as bright as his dad, and that's saying a lot. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, and he played dumb. [SPEAKER_09]: He played dumb with Jensaki. [SPEAKER_09]: He played as dumb with Jensaki as Carol and Levitt actually is. [SPEAKER_09]: But the funny thing is is that he was straight.

[SPEAKER_09]: He was actually pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty even handed with Carolyn. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, here. [SPEAKER_09]: I've got this in the DVR two here. [SPEAKER_01]: So the FBI looked at the circumstances surrounding the death of Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_01]: According to the report, this systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. [SPEAKER_01]: So what happened to the Epstein client list that the attorney general said, she had on her desk?

[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think if you go back and look at what the attorney general said in that interview, which was on your network on Fox News, go ahead and Robert said, DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients will that really happen? [SPEAKER_01]: And she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review. [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, she was saying the entirety of all of the paperwork, all of the paper in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

[SPEAKER_05]: That's what the attorney general was referring to. [SPEAKER_10]: No, she said that she didn't qualify. [SPEAKER_10]: She didn't. [SPEAKER_10]: She didn't correct him and say I have all of the information about Jeffrey Epstein. [SPEAKER_10]: She said it's on my desk. [SPEAKER_09]: We can roll that back in. [SPEAKER_09]: Actually, here's what she said. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, that really happened. [SPEAKER_00]: It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

[SPEAKER_10]: So I mean, she said, she didn't say everything about the entire Epstein file is sitting on my desk that I'm going through. [SPEAKER_10]: She said, it is sitting on my desk. [SPEAKER_07]: We're referring to what he asked in context here. [SPEAKER_07]: The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that really happened. [SPEAKER_00]: It's sitting on my desk right now to review.

[SPEAKER_09]: She sounds like that she was claiming there was an actual list and now suddenly they say there's no list at all. [SPEAKER_10]: Please correct me listeners. [SPEAKER_10]: We're Sean. [SPEAKER_10]: Whoever is first. [SPEAKER_10]: During the guillain Maxwell, however you pronounce her first name, trial. [SPEAKER_09]: Just laying is what I can anyway. [SPEAKER_10]: warrant their references to a client list and blackmail and things like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay. [SPEAKER_10]: So that's on the record. [SPEAKER_09]: I remember as far as I remember. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: I don't think we would have heard about it. [SPEAKER_10]: I don't think people would have made it up. [SPEAKER_09]: No, and I think I think look, they may be referring to obliquely some type of a list. [SPEAKER_09]: And maybe there wasn't a specific, you know, Donald Trump did this. [SPEAKER_09]: I have blackmail against him here.

[SPEAKER_09]: They'll Clinton did this. [SPEAKER_09]: I have blackmail against him here. [SPEAKER_09]: But you know, if you're asking, is there some type of thing that could be called list? [SPEAKER_09]: I think there is because once again, Jody is right. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, it's just, I mean, I'm because it was so long ago that the testimony and what she also didn't she say that there were tapes? [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, there's all sorts of stuff.

[SPEAKER_09]: But conveniently, oh, no, now there's now there's nothing. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, oh, so they found something incriminating of Donald Trump. [SPEAKER_10]: They had to have because if there was anything incriminating about anybody that they don't like, [SPEAKER_09]: It would be out. [SPEAKER_10]: It would be out. [SPEAKER_09]: And yes, it does sound like that we are a little bit bitter and biased against them.

[SPEAKER_09]: And when somebody lies to you as often as the Trump regime has, both first regime and second regime, about things as important as they have and as banal and trivial as they have. [SPEAKER_09]: They've lied about everything from the price of eggs to where hurricanes going over Alabama. [SPEAKER_09]: war with Iran. [SPEAKER_09]: There you go. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, you know, everything was obliterated, remember? [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: The only thing that was obliterated was Trump's BS. [SPEAKER_09]: I just, sorry, I had to take a drink. [SPEAKER_09]: There I realized we're in a bar and that's just how it is, but I just because it looked, they've lied that much. [SPEAKER_09]: You can't trust people who lie that much and you can't trust and a regime that lies as much as they have. [SPEAKER_09]: So I would trust them if they had proven that they were trustworthy. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: But trustworthy means that you're worth being trusted, that you have earned the trust of people. [SPEAKER_09]: They haven't. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, I agree. [SPEAKER_10]: I agree. [SPEAKER_09]: I agree. [SPEAKER_10]: My trust. [SPEAKER_09]: So I. Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So it doesn't necessarily surprise me. [SPEAKER_09]: But it's one of those things you just go. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll talk about the New York Times, man, Danny smear with Brooklyn dad coming up.

[SPEAKER_09]: I think that's that there's a whole thing with that. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll we'll talk about that. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, the, uh, over the weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: Those of you may have seen Jurassic World rebirth. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I'd say if you out there, uh, it actually did pretty well. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, they were only thinking it was going to do like a hundred million.

[SPEAKER_09]: It did a hundred and forty seven million domestically and three hundred and eighteen million globally. [SPEAKER_09]: So. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: I've heard mixed reviews. [SPEAKER_09]: Some people basically say if you like that kind of thing, you'll like that kind of thing. [SPEAKER_10]: I've heard. [SPEAKER_10]: I heard that the script isn't that good, but.

[SPEAKER_09]: Right, but it's the kind of action movie that I've heard that if you like that kind of action movie that you will like this. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I keep joking with Lonnie. [SPEAKER_10]: I said, I know what the movie's about and then I tell him he goes, but you haven't seen it. [SPEAKER_10]: I said, I know what I'm talking about. [SPEAKER_10]: I read the first two books. [SPEAKER_10]: Thank you very much, Little Lone, all the other movies.

[SPEAKER_10]: So I kind of know what it's about. [SPEAKER_10]: Yes, I read it. [SPEAKER_09]: It in other good news music news. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, it's kind of good kind of bad. [SPEAKER_09]: Look, Aussie Osborne, I've always loved a lot of Aussies music and Black Sabbath music, Tommy and Yomi and all the all the gang there. [SPEAKER_09]: They did a farewell performance together. [SPEAKER_09]: Black Sabbath and Aussie at his hometown in Birmingham, forty thousand fans.

[SPEAKER_09]: There was G in our folks there, some metallic of folks there. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, and Aussie's daughter got engaged. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, okay. [SPEAKER_10]: So I'm like, I'm like, hey, did what does that Kelly got married a while ago? [SPEAKER_10]: Did she get divorced? [SPEAKER_09]: I believe she was divorced and yeah, so this is engaged to they announced her engagement there. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm not good for her.

[SPEAKER_09]: So yeah, you know, that that's his youngest. [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, yay. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, is this exactly my favorite band? [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you're a fan of him, Jody. [SPEAKER_10]: I couldn't name a song. [SPEAKER_09]: Wonderwall. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, I know that one. [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. [SPEAKER_09]: See, I figured you might know that one. [SPEAKER_09]: Some people like them.

[SPEAKER_09]: Some people didn't, but the brothers who made up the core of that band, hey, did each other's guts for years. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: They finally got past their stuff reunited. [SPEAKER_09]: They started their reunion tour. [SPEAKER_09]: And I've seen a few clips from it. [SPEAKER_09]: And they actually sound like they were [SPEAKER_09]: pretty good and having fun, so maybe they, you know, grew up a little bit.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's kind of maybe they now have separate buses. [SPEAKER_09]: That's a totally possible to US men soccer national team. [SPEAKER_09]: I was watching the game. [SPEAKER_09]: I watched it for a little bit. [SPEAKER_09]: Men were up but one nothing over Mexico and the gold cup game. [SPEAKER_09]: I thought that was pretty good. [SPEAKER_09]: Unfortunately, they didn't keep it up.

[SPEAKER_09]: Lost it to one and the head coach has blamed the awful refereeing, which I've seen a couple clips from that game. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, he didn't blame his wife. [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, he didn't blame his wife. [SPEAKER_09]: No, because I don't think he's a maga voter. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, Mexico did win, so there is that. [SPEAKER_09]: That's what did win two to one.

[SPEAKER_09]: So, you know, but look, at least, at least the the US men's national soccer team was in the in the final, which was, you know, this is kind of a good thing. [SPEAKER_09]: It's the first time in a while, right? [SPEAKER_09]: They're finally doing pretty good. [SPEAKER_09]: And I am like, hey, you know, share them when they do well, you know, knock somebody when they're doing badly. [SPEAKER_10]: But, um, and when thank you to Mexico for helping the Texas flood victims.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: The exactly Mexican National Garden that they've been, they've been great helping out. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, thank you too. [SPEAKER_09]: We will talk more about the news on tap, the Texas floods, the big ugly bill, the coming ice storm in the immigration wars, and we will have Brooklyn dad to find coming in. [SPEAKER_09]: So look, it's a Monday nights. [SPEAKER_09]: We're having fun here at the politics bar.

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[SPEAKER_09]: six bucks a month. [SPEAKER_09]: Get you the whole thing with ads no ads in it. [SPEAKER_09]: So there you go. [SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_09]: It is a Monday night and we care about how things work around here at the politics bar.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, we care about how things look to, but, you know, we know if you drag queens and look, you can make almost anything look good if with enough makeup and paint and sparkle guarantee you can and [SPEAKER_09]: You can make Donald Trump look good. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, okay, but doesn't say well, but he would still have that awful nasty hatred underneath. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, you know, that's that that you can't in and of course stupid.

[SPEAKER_09]: So some kind of things you just can't fix and and that happens be one of them. [SPEAKER_09]: There is news obviously today. [SPEAKER_09]: Don't know the the current death toll. [SPEAKER_09]: I believe now it's been most of five days. [SPEAKER_09]: So I think they they have probably found all the people they're going to start between ninety and a hundred dead in the floods in Texas as we talked about last hour. [SPEAKER_09]: Look folks, it matters who you vote for.

[SPEAKER_09]: It matters who you vote for locally. [SPEAKER_09]: It matters who you vote for when you send them to Congress. [SPEAKER_09]: In the state of Texas, they could have put money towards an early warning system. [SPEAKER_09]: And the people that they voted for said, I don't want to do that. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, I won't go over to again, I won't be labored again other than to say that voting matters at all times.

[SPEAKER_09]: And if you don't go to the voting booth, I'll talk with my mom this weekend, Jody. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if your mom would say something similar, but my mom has said this for years. [SPEAKER_09]: And this came up and she said, I'm glad you're telling people that phrase and her phrase as usual is those who do not vote should not pitch. [SPEAKER_10]: Exactly, I've been saying that since I can't even remember how long it'd been saying that.

[SPEAKER_09]: My mom taught us that when we were very young, basically, if her thought was, you know, she's from a different era, so you don't necessarily always talk politics. [SPEAKER_09]: But if you're going to talk talk talk to somebody and tell somebody, you're just talking nonsense. [SPEAKER_09]: You ask them if they vote and they say, no, you say, well, we're done with this. [SPEAKER_09]: Go on to a difference. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, politics is going to do you even if you don't do politics.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I like that phrase. [SPEAKER_09]: I like that. [SPEAKER_09]: Was that from your mom? [SPEAKER_09]: No. [SPEAKER_10]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_10]: I know Karen from Chicago says it, but I think I heard it from somebody else to ask her. [SPEAKER_10]: I've heard it before. [SPEAKER_10]: I had a friend here to go. [SPEAKER_10]: It was very funny. [SPEAKER_10]: He came over for whatever reason. [SPEAKER_10]: And he goes, what do you think about Brangelina?

[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, I don't care about that. [SPEAKER_10]: And what about the Kardashians? [SPEAKER_10]: Because what do you care about? [SPEAKER_10]: And then I started listing whatever was going on. [SPEAKER_10]: It's time he goes, oh, I don't know about that. [SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, dude. [SPEAKER_09]: politics will do you even if you don't do politics. [SPEAKER_10]: It just will. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, and you know that says pull next door. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, the app you mean?

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I thought you were referring to like, you know, one of our neighbors here. [SPEAKER_09]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. [SPEAKER_09]: We have an okay neighborhood with a bar is. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, it's a successful comma called next door. [SPEAKER_10]: There we go. [SPEAKER_10]: I got it. [SPEAKER_10]: That thing.

[SPEAKER_10]: And what's funny is because like Los Angeles and I assume a New York was similar in a lot of big cities, especially East Chicago, Houston. [SPEAKER_10]: When they have the mayoral voting, LA, we're lucky of twenty five percent of us show up to vote. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, a lot of places are somewhere between twenty five and forty percent is very very great. [SPEAKER_09]: I'd love that.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, some places in America brag about we had forty percent, which I'm like, why would you brag about? [SPEAKER_10]: That's better than twenty five and then people on next door, you know, there's maybe twelve percent of them voted for whomever is in office. [SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, and the other twelve didn't. [SPEAKER_10]: And it's like, most of you didn't vote. [SPEAKER_10]: So stop your bitch in.

[SPEAKER_09]: I have a friend who is he is the program director for Burning Man Information Radio. [SPEAKER_09]: Josh actually helped start one of the channels at Sirius XM. [SPEAKER_09]: So he is fantastic radio guy. [SPEAKER_09]: And he has a broad variety of people, friends from all over the world. [SPEAKER_09]: He does some different radio stuff now too. [SPEAKER_09]: And he is posting something political, which he doesn't always do on one of the social media, but he does sometimes.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I just kind of couldn't handle and I was like, and I know that a lot of his friends will often brag. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, you know, I didn't vote for anything because I don't vote so it wasn't my fault. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's your fault if you didn't vote. [SPEAKER_09]: I preemptively just put them on blast and be like, all this stuff, these, these dead kids in Texas, this, the, the, the ice wars, the, you know, the coming ice storm as it is, all these immigration issues.

[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry, but all this is your fault, too, because you can't just say, you know, the only people who can say, well, I didn't vote for it. [SPEAKER_09]: Are people who are here legally or not, and who are not American citizens or who for whatever reason maybe don't have the right to vote anymore? [SPEAKER_10]: And that's an excellent search. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Depending on the state. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But at the same time, that's still to me.

[SPEAKER_09]: Doesn't completely absolve that person of the responsibility to try to get the people they know who can vote to vote intelligently. [SPEAKER_09]: It's government is a collective thing. [SPEAKER_09]: We all do it together. [SPEAKER_09]: Whether we want to or not, like you said, if you don't do politics, politics will do you. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, if you don't do government, government will do you too. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a thing we all do together.

[SPEAKER_09]: So we should try to do it together responsibly in a way that will benefit the most number of people as opposed to, well, I didn't do it, but I'm going to complain about it. [SPEAKER_10]: No, you can't complain if you have the right to vote and you choose not to. [SPEAKER_10]: And you're capable of voting. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, there's people that are in turn. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, there's many reasons that some people cannot vote whether they are allowed to or not.

[SPEAKER_10]: But basically, if you can vote and you don't vote, it's on you. [SPEAKER_10]: It's on you. [SPEAKER_10]: You have no right to bitch about it. [SPEAKER_09]: You can just go almost. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: It's almost worse than the Maga people. [SPEAKER_09]: Almost. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Because I mean, look, [SPEAKER_09]: They're dumb and maybe they were misled although I sure is held don't think a lot of them are misled by this point.

[SPEAKER_09]: They know who Donald Trump is. [SPEAKER_09]: They know what the maga agenda is all about. [SPEAKER_09]: They know project twenty twenty five whether they want to admit it or not. [SPEAKER_09]: They know. [SPEAKER_09]: So they weren't misled. [SPEAKER_09]: Let's let's you know just abuse ourselves of that notion. [SPEAKER_09]: They're not some innocent country mice. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_09]: They knew.

[SPEAKER_09]: But that said, at least they got off their asses and voted. [SPEAKER_09]: The people who are proud of not voting, come on. [SPEAKER_09]: Give me a point. [SPEAKER_10]: Never be proud of that. [SPEAKER_09]: That's, you know, I'm, I'm proud I didn't use the restroom this evening. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_09]: You go, okay, but you peed your pants. [SPEAKER_10]: Like Pete Higgs-Seth, proud he didn't wash his hands for ten years.

[SPEAKER_09]: That was, yeah, I remember when he said that at first I was like, that's disgusting because I've [SPEAKER_09]: mom was my mom was a nurse and you know in our house it wasn't just clean cleanliness was not only next to godliness it was also one step away from getting ass whips oh yeah if you would like to not you know be smack you would wash your hands [SPEAKER_09]: That's just how that works. [SPEAKER_09]: So we're talking about responsible government.

[SPEAKER_09]: And obviously, this big ugly bill passed. [SPEAKER_09]: And there is millions and millions more. [SPEAKER_09]: What did I see here? [SPEAKER_09]: A hundred, a hundred and fifty billion more will be available for ice pretty much right off the bat. [SPEAKER_09]: They're going to have to take time to hire these ten thousand agents that they want. [SPEAKER_09]: And there are things that people are starting to do. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't necessarily recommend full doxing of people.

[SPEAKER_09]: No, don't do that. [SPEAKER_09]: That's bad. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: But if you happen to know somebody in your neighborhood works for ICE, [SPEAKER_09]: And there are lists of people out there, you can just say this person works for us and leave it at that.

[SPEAKER_09]: Don't, don't give them their phone number and their email or whatever, but yes, if it makes it hard, there are, you saw it, you saw it in LA when they were trying to have the military take over whatever and they would try to be the whack with them at a hotel. [SPEAKER_09]: And hotel owners would once they found out, they would be like, nope, out, take your stuff and get out. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh no, I'm a Hilton honors member and I got in touch with Hilton.

[SPEAKER_10]: I said, please stop putting these people up. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: And you are the only one. [SPEAKER_09]: There were a lot of people. [SPEAKER_09]: There are ways to make them uncomfortable. [SPEAKER_09]: And the thing is is that the ways to make them uncomfortable are the same in the same kind of category as the ways that the maggots are trying to make life uncomfortable for everyone else.

[SPEAKER_09]: They have this misguided notion that they can do it to you, but that you can't do it back to them. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's literally not how this all works, folks. [SPEAKER_09]: And even under authoritarian societies, that's not how it works. [SPEAKER_10]: Well, I mean, you don't wait. [SPEAKER_09]: You can't change somebody's heart.

[SPEAKER_10]: Well, with what what this new law has regarding ice and it's what more than the Russian military budget more than the French military budget more than the Marines. [SPEAKER_09]: It's more than the Marines. [SPEAKER_09]: This is insane. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it is absolutely insane. [SPEAKER_10]: More than the FBI more than DEA. [SPEAKER_10]: I mean, that's just insane. [SPEAKER_09]: And look, these camps, they're having, it is accurate to call them concentration camps.

[SPEAKER_09]: We'll have details on all of these stories at the in the news on tap today at the politicsbar.com. [SPEAKER_09]: Rep AOC was warning over the holiday weekend here of an explosion of ice after this bill passes. [SPEAKER_09]: Michael Tomoski, who I've known, I know Mike for ages.

[SPEAKER_09]: He basically said that we're going to have multiple concentration camps, not just the, the, the, um, alligator Auschwitz down in Florida, but then there's going to be more of these kinds of things. [SPEAKER_09]: This is something that they're going to try to do, but there are laws, even where they can go. [SPEAKER_09]: They can't just go wherever the heck they want.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yes, it's going to be a fight and you're going to need to contact your local reps and your state reps and your senators and yeah, there's going to be all kinds of mess that's going to need to be taking care of in order to try to stop these people. [SPEAKER_09]: It would have been easier. [SPEAKER_09]: It would have been easier stopping had we, you know, just voted sensibly in the first place. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, so anyway, well, and I'll wait brain fart.

[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, didn't isn't Donald saying that some of these detainees can now be [SPEAKER_10]: loaned to farmers. [SPEAKER_10]: Sorry, big ag. [SPEAKER_10]: And that's slavery. [SPEAKER_09]: There's some discussion that they may try to do that, but there's also, they're depending on the state. [SPEAKER_09]: There are a whole bunch of other laws. [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of this stuff is going to get tied up in court.

[SPEAKER_09]: And that's the thing is that we need to make sure that a lot of this stuff is tied up. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, that's what Mark Elias and the ACLU and others are for, thank God.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: Yep, that's that look the the the battle is fought on many fronts and thankfully folks like the ACLU like Mark Elias democracy dockets that they are fighting against some of this stuff which is good in something else yes the Trump tariff deadlines are supposed to be the [SPEAKER_09]: You know exactly as I do. [SPEAKER_09]: He is talk going out. [SPEAKER_09]: He is chickening out again.

[SPEAKER_10]: I know I need to know what to buy right now since everything's tanking. [SPEAKER_10]: So what do I buy? [SPEAKER_10]: Talk us. [SPEAKER_10]: No, you know what I mean stock market wise. [SPEAKER_10]: What do I buy so that I can get in like every smart person that has money? [SPEAKER_10]: Go buy these stock and then sell it when he chickens out again. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, yeah, for those for those people who missed it. [SPEAKER_09]: Trump's deadline. [SPEAKER_09]: Self-imposed.

[SPEAKER_09]: It was worth it for these Wednesday. [SPEAKER_09]: Wednesday. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: So tomorrow will likely be, I'm calling it. [SPEAKER_09]: It's going to be Taco Tuesday. [SPEAKER_09]: They're saying they're revealing a new deadline August first and then Treasury Secretary Pessent says that the tariffs will return to the rate that they were in April beforehand.

[SPEAKER_09]: And here's the thing is, like I mentioned earlier, I would believe him that the tariffs were returning to that April rate. [SPEAKER_09]: If maybe I could trust them at all. [SPEAKER_09]: But I can't trust them. [SPEAKER_09]: So I don't even know if that's going to be the case.

[SPEAKER_09]: I love the story that you found, though, from raw story that noted that the Trump, there's an insider in the Trump White House, who says they've talked about it, and that this Trump trade war is all just for show. [SPEAKER_09]: It's all BS. [SPEAKER_09]: It's all another episode in his TV show. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I think. [SPEAKER_10]: And it's also, it's also for his rich friends to make money. [SPEAKER_10]: It's a gift.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yep. [SPEAKER_09]: I could have told you so. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, wait. [SPEAKER_09]: We probably did. [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, it is a Monday night. [SPEAKER_09]: Brooklyn, Dad, I believe is coming in. [SPEAKER_09]: He may be in the parking lot. [SPEAKER_09]: And now as we speak, so look, let us go let him in. [SPEAKER_09]: You get your drink fresh and up and we will come back with more from Brooklyn, Dad, Define.

[SPEAKER_09]: He's got some tips on how you can fight some of this mega racism, which we definitely could use some of those kind of tips. [SPEAKER_09]: So get a fresh drink, hang out with Jody, me and Brooklyn, Dad, Define next here on the politics bar. [SPEAKER_11]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: He's dancing. [SPEAKER_09]: He's loving this.

[SPEAKER_09]: I love that joke that you told us he was coming in earlier today, but the dancer and the musician. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if everybody's heard this one. [SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_10]: It's an oldie, but it's a dad joke. [SPEAKER_09]: It's a good joke. [SPEAKER_10]: It's a dad joke. [SPEAKER_10]: Okay, if you have a musician and a dancer together, they can count to eight. [SPEAKER_10]: Musician goes one, two, three, four, and the dancer goes five, six, seven, eight.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's a good joke. [SPEAKER_09]: I like it. [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm sorry, if you didn't like it, you happen to be wrong. [SPEAKER_09]: We know, the reason we know this is, Jody is right. [SPEAKER_09]: That's right. [SPEAKER_09]: That's one of the roles around here at the politics park. [SPEAKER_09]: Jody is right. [SPEAKER_09]: Make sure you have the bell when you say that. [SPEAKER_09]: It didn't always help.

[SPEAKER_09]: So, BDD, you said that you got to watch some movies over the weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: What were you watching? [SPEAKER_06]: I, let's see. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, first I watched, um, sinners, which is it. [SPEAKER_06]: It's, it's a horror movie, but it's, it's also like, to call it just a horror movie kind of reduces what it is. [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's, it was beautiful. [SPEAKER_06]: It was the cinematography. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it was absolutely, it was beautifully shot.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: The music was amazing. [SPEAKER_06]: And I feel like I haven't looked this up yet, but I feel like there was, uh, there was, um, [SPEAKER_06]: Actually, I don't even want to, I don't even want to spoil it. [SPEAKER_06]: So I'll just leave it at that. [SPEAKER_06]: The music was fantastic. [SPEAKER_06]: The acting was amazing. [SPEAKER_09]: Michael B. Jordan, I believe is Michael B. Jordan, Haley Steinfeld. [SPEAKER_06]: shoot everybody.

[SPEAKER_06]: Literally, everybody in that movie, they understood the assignment. [SPEAKER_06]: Nice. [SPEAKER_10]: I got to meet Michael B. Jordan years ago. [SPEAKER_10]: He was very, very sweet. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [UNKNOWN]: Wow. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: Was that his wire years or is it? [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, this was Wakanda. [SPEAKER_10]: This was right after Black Panther. [SPEAKER_10]: And he sat with us at a table. [SPEAKER_10]: And I remember him on all my children.

[SPEAKER_10]: That's how long ago I've been a fan of his. [SPEAKER_10]: And I told him that he goes, wow, and I'm like, no, totally, I totally remember you on all my children. [SPEAKER_10]: And he could not have been nicer and sweeter. [SPEAKER_10]: We got pictures with him. [SPEAKER_10]: He was lovely and he's a hell of an actor, and I'm really, really happy for his career. [SPEAKER_10]: How it's gone.

[SPEAKER_09]: It is interesting people who [SPEAKER_09]: basically they they never saw the wire and they different the first time they really paid attention to him was Black Panther and they're like what it's like it's kind of like kind of like when people you know overnight sensations from music and band they're like he was in the news it took him thirty five years to become an overnight sensation you're like yeah guys no he's been doing this a while so

[SPEAKER_06]: What other movies did you see the other movie that first of all, aside from the movies, I was a lot of TV watching this weekend. [SPEAKER_06]: I watched Portlandia, which is a skit humor show. [SPEAKER_06]: It's been out there for a while. [SPEAKER_03]: It's hilarious. [SPEAKER_06]: And I rewatched the office for like the umpteenth time. [SPEAKER_06]: It is one of my all-time favorite TV sitcoms.

[SPEAKER_06]: But the other movie I saw, which I was pleasantly surprised by, was a heads of steak. [SPEAKER_10]: Love that movie we watched it this weekend. [SPEAKER_10]: It was fantastic. [SPEAKER_06]: It was. [SPEAKER_10]: It was so fun. [SPEAKER_06]: It just elbowed. [SPEAKER_06]: John Cena, the both play two top world leaders, the United States president and the UK prime minister.

[SPEAKER_06]: And they're at odds with each other and they share a ride on [SPEAKER_06]: Air Force one which gets hijacked and then they have to basically stay alive through the movie and it's kind of like a buddy movie, but these guys are both really funny. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I thought they're they're both kind of funny before I I still honestly wish I know that Idris Elba has said that he said I'm too old now because when they look for a bond but he's not too old.

[SPEAKER_09]: He said it himself. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think so either, but they look for somebody who will be willing to play it for a decade or whatever [SPEAKER_06]: That dude is aiming incredibly well. [SPEAKER_09]: I would love to see him as double those seven, but that's, you know, any. [SPEAKER_09]: I saw Ironheart. [SPEAKER_09]: I finally watched the, I was, you know, look. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the acting is okay. [SPEAKER_09]: The graphics obviously. [SPEAKER_09]: It's Marvel.

[SPEAKER_09]: So it's good. [SPEAKER_09]: I just, [SPEAKER_09]: Having known a number of cartoonists as I have over the years, friend of mine, Bob Hall, who you may or may not know. [SPEAKER_09]: He's a long time Marvel cartoonist. [SPEAKER_09]: He did a bunch of other stuff too. [SPEAKER_09]: He did Shadow Man for a different comic imprint. [SPEAKER_09]: And he knew Jim shooter real well. [SPEAKER_09]: Jim shooter just passed away recently.

[SPEAKER_09]: Jim shooter was like the legendary guy behind so many things at Marvel. [SPEAKER_09]: And I just looked at the script. [SPEAKER_09]: I was going to get a look at the script, but you look at the TV show when you look at, you're sitting there going, God, I know they could have written a better script.

[SPEAKER_09]: And you get frustrated with some of that stuff when you're like, because you know some of the people who've written the comic books, written the words that go in the comic books. [SPEAKER_09]: And you're like, I'm sorry, but you guys could have done that better. [SPEAKER_06]: So I will say this. [SPEAKER_06]: What I liked about it was that, [SPEAKER_06]: the villain was complex was not too dimensional kind of villain, you know, true.

[SPEAKER_06]: And even the hero, I really was not like your typical, you know, but they didn't explore Ruby Williams. [SPEAKER_09]: There's so much of her character. [SPEAKER_09]: If you've seen the comic to be read the comics, there's so much so I just, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And look, maybe for for those people who are out there who, you know, haven't necessarily read the comics comics are not just for kids. [SPEAKER_09]: They're there. [SPEAKER_09]: So good stuff out there.

[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: You know, and and just like John Cena is not just a wrestler. [SPEAKER_09]: He's actually a pretty decent comedic actor. [SPEAKER_09]: There are there's all kinds of depths out there. [SPEAKER_09]: So also in peace maker. [SPEAKER_09]: He's wonderful in that. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he's in a number of fun and somewhat cheeky things. [SPEAKER_09]: And, you know, I think that I don't think he gets as much credit maybe as he should.

[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I'm not saying he's a Lord's Olivier, but I am saying comedies hard. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: As you know, as your mom knows, as your dad knows, as a comedy. [SPEAKER_09]: I think comedy is harder in some ways. [SPEAKER_10]: Comedy is hard. [SPEAKER_10]: Dying is easy. [SPEAKER_10]: It's an old job. [SPEAKER_06]: I see some of the best actors out there are comedians. [SPEAKER_06]: I think. [SPEAKER_06]: And I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know why it is. [SPEAKER_06]: First of all, your mom. [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Robin Williams. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: Robin Williams had so much darkness in hand. [SPEAKER_06]: He would never know that he was that guy. [SPEAKER_06]: He was that goofy guy that was making everybody laugh. [SPEAKER_06]: Jim Carrey. [SPEAKER_06]: You know, Jim Carris Saint, these incredible actors.

[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, even, you know what, Will Ferrell, who's a guy that I know people are like, oh, I can't stand him. [SPEAKER_06]: There either you, you can't stand or you like. [SPEAKER_10]: I love him. [SPEAKER_10]: I think he's. [SPEAKER_06]: I love him. [SPEAKER_06]: He's hilarious, but he's also put in some some very strong dramatic performances as well. [SPEAKER_10]: What's hard to make somebody laugh? [SPEAKER_10]: It's really hard. [SPEAKER_09]: We know.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mean, if you ask, you know, you ask John or how or any of the comedians that we know, um, Frangela, um, they will all tell you that the key to humor, the key to comedy is truth.

[SPEAKER_09]: it's one of the reasons why so many of the truth tellers in our media these days are comedians because and it's also for what it's worth why the right doesn't really have anybody good as comedians because they rely online [SPEAKER_09]: They rely on on lies and BS and hatred and punching down. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Comedy is funny when you punch up. [SPEAKER_09]: It's cool when you punch down.

[SPEAKER_09]: It's one of the reasons that it separates classically the old argument between Jay Leno and David Letterman. [SPEAKER_09]: David Letterman punched up Jay Leno punched down. [SPEAKER_09]: And that's [SPEAKER_09]: You know, that's a very common thing. [SPEAKER_09]: It separates people who might be just gruff from people who might be racist. [SPEAKER_09]: And I entered that way.

[SPEAKER_09]: I mentioned it that way because you have a really good piece at defined dispatches, your sub-stack, and talking about how some of the people that we know that the myths fueling Trump's deportation agenda as you noted, [SPEAKER_09]: It's BS. [SPEAKER_09]: It's lies that they believe. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's lies is hatred because when you push the truth, it's pretty easy to see the lies that they're [SPEAKER_09]: that they believe.

[SPEAKER_09]: And you, I mean, this was a really good piece of it. [SPEAKER_06]: I liked it. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for that. [SPEAKER_06]: It's a piece that had been burning in my soul for, I don't know, for a while now, I would say ever since these ice raids really took off and started happening all over. [SPEAKER_06]: And, you know, we heard them say that they were going after criminals.

[SPEAKER_06]: And rapists and murderers, blah, blah, blah, but instead they're going after school teachers and farmers and the kid who is a teenage volleyball player and the way the role cancel off a car vendor. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And the guy who raised three United States Marines right now, all these different people, how are these [SPEAKER_06]: masks, uh, kidnappings, making us as Americans safe. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not. [SPEAKER_03]: They're not.

[SPEAKER_06]: I'd say jigs buy me a coke for older bars. [SPEAKER_06]: By your ramen. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: There you go. [SPEAKER_06]: I like that one. [SPEAKER_06]: And it's it's infuriating one that is going on, but two. [SPEAKER_06]: that you know that we have neighbors, and we have family, and we have friends who are silently watching and applauding this stuff. [SPEAKER_06]: Well, they're still in the market. [SPEAKER_06]: They're not openly applauding.

[SPEAKER_06]: They're standing by silently and saying nothing to speak out against it. [SPEAKER_06]: That's just the air selling merch. [SPEAKER_10]: They're selling merch. [SPEAKER_06]: I hadn't seen that. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, no, the GOP in Florida for alligator alcatraz, the GOP. [SPEAKER_09]: has merch for sale, promoting it, let alone the White House having me and the Republicans are being Republican backers are, yeah, they're making a big marketing attempt of this, which disgusting.

[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, I'm complaining to Amazon because they have shirts like that, so I'm complaining to them, complain to Etsy because they have shirts up. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and I'm complaining we should, but it's the cruelty behind it is the most disgusting thing. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: And it's the fact that they're okay with demonizing immigrants. [SPEAKER_09]: Many of their grandparents, great grandparents, whatever, were immigrants when they came here too.

[SPEAKER_09]: But they're demonizing hardworking people who are just here trying to become Americans citizens. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: When it's not about illegal immigration or undocumented immigrants anymore, it's about people going to their court hearings. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: So it's not, they don't, they, and mark my words, they're not going after the people from Sweden, and they're not going after the people from England.

[SPEAKER_09]: I've seen, I've seen actually a number of stories, Jody, where they actually are starting to go after. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, there was a Canadian woman that they didn't work. [SPEAKER_09]: There's somebody just over the weekend from the UK. [SPEAKER_09]: And the reason why they're going after all of these people [SPEAKER_09]: is because they set Steven Miller set an arbitrary number that we have to have this many people. [SPEAKER_09]: We have to get rid of more.

[SPEAKER_09]: And the thing is, there aren't that many criminals who are immigrants. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: First of all, the part of the reason is that they don't want to be caught up in the U.S. [SPEAKER_09]: criminal justice system. [SPEAKER_09]: So they try very, very, very, very, very hard not to commit any crimes. [SPEAKER_09]: So that's the first thing.

[SPEAKER_09]: Oftentimes, they are working, maybe they're working off the books, but they're working off the books because the immigration system isn't set up for them to work on the books. [SPEAKER_10]: They will even some that have fake social security numbers are paying in a social security. [SPEAKER_10]: Right. [SPEAKER_10]: And they're not going to get it back. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: They do what they're told is the right thing to do.

[SPEAKER_09]: But what it boils down to is, it is a lack of empathy. [SPEAKER_09]: It is the racism that you pointed out in your P speedy D. But it's also, it's a lack of empathy and it's a lack of understanding. [SPEAKER_09]: I've talked about the milk bottle concept before. [SPEAKER_09]: How the machinery of things works and how people are oftentimes they think they're smarter than they are about some of the stuff.

[SPEAKER_09]: But if they were actually, if they had [SPEAKER_09]: a real ounce of empathy, real concern for other people. [SPEAKER_09]: Instead of voting in people who are monsters who would vote for things like the big ugly bill.

[SPEAKER_09]: Instead of voting for people like in Texas, where they said, you know, we could invest in a system that would probably alert people if there was a flood in central Texas in the Hill Country, but you know, we want to give another tax break to the oil companies and the rich folks in our state. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Then when it happens, they cry and they scream and they say, Oh, this is awful outcome. [SPEAKER_09]: This is a horrible outcome.

[SPEAKER_09]: Nobody saw it coming. [SPEAKER_10]: That's the other one. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, they've been repeating that. [SPEAKER_09]: Nobody saw it coming except for the National Weather Service. [SPEAKER_09]: No, uh, pretty much anybody who understood the region. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So I, and I, I mentioned this earlier. [SPEAKER_09]: I mentioned this in our one that [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just kind of tired of them. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm done.

[SPEAKER_09]: My patients has run out for those people who, you know, saved me from myself is effectively what they're saying. [SPEAKER_09]: And my thought is, hey, jackass, why don't you save yourself? [SPEAKER_09]: And we try to use our tired of it. [SPEAKER_09]: Right. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: We are sick and damn tired of trying to save you. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, we're trying to save ourselves from you. [SPEAKER_10]: That's what Joey Reed said this morning about black women.

[SPEAKER_10]: They're sick and tired of saving the rest of us. [SPEAKER_09]: We're trying to, we're going to try to get her into the bar because I love joy. [SPEAKER_09]: I have, I have not always agreed with joy, but damn if I don't respect the hell out of her. [SPEAKER_09]: She is one of the sharpest and I freaking love her. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, I'm really glad for her new shows.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll say if we can get her here into the politics bar, you stick around to close out with us again. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: It is a Monday night. [SPEAKER_09]: We are glad that you are hanging out with us as well. [SPEAKER_09]: From wherever you happen to be, remember you can always get the politics bar on your favorite podcast player. [SPEAKER_09]: Just type in the politics bar or hey, you can subscribe for six bucks a month.

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[SPEAKER_09]: Jody, tell Lonnie, thank you again. [SPEAKER_09]: Well, just make sure you say thank you, Lonnie. [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you, Lonnie, for the politics bar theme songs. [SPEAKER_09]: It is a politics bar. [SPEAKER_09]: We are glad you are with us on a Monday night. [SPEAKER_09]: Hangin' out with Brooklyn, Dad, Defiance. [SPEAKER_09]: So, BDD, we were talking in the break here.

[SPEAKER_09]: There is a big movie coming out that, well, I have to say what led us to talking about because I saw this over the weekend. [SPEAKER_09]: I was excited. [SPEAKER_09]: I've had to buy a few new shirts. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm trying to conserve my money because, you know, it's it. [SPEAKER_09]: Things are still tight. [SPEAKER_09]: But honestly, Bob Cesca has a brand new shirt at his store. [SPEAKER_09]: Rocky Mountain Mike created this graphic of Bob basically as Superman punching Trump.

[SPEAKER_09]: And so Bob Bob's got this. [SPEAKER_10]: I'm going to go buy it when we're done with the show. [SPEAKER_09]: I got to see that. [SPEAKER_09]: I think I can love it. [SPEAKER_09]: It is great. [SPEAKER_09]: So for those of you who are looking for it, just go Bob says.com, go to the new store and you'll see it there. [SPEAKER_09]: There you go. [SPEAKER_09]: But I'm excited to see this new superman movie. [SPEAKER_09]: It's me too.

[SPEAKER_10]: Lonnie's leaving town this weekend, so I can go by myself. [SPEAKER_09]: No, really. [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if you guys would like me. [SPEAKER_09]: I like going to see a movie with people because then you can talk about it afterwards. [SPEAKER_10]: I am so person that goes by myself. [SPEAKER_10]: I've been doing it for years. [SPEAKER_10]: I bring a book beforehand and read and then I watch the movie. [SPEAKER_10]: Lee, I can go sit anywhere I want.

[SPEAKER_09]: I would prefer to go with somebody just see you get out and then you can be like, Oh, and that part and what about that one and oh, oh, that thing and all that and what about this? [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, that was great. [SPEAKER_06]: So I had wanted to see the new Jurassic Jurassic World movie this weekend, but [SPEAKER_06]: There were like competing priorities on my son had a soccer game. [SPEAKER_06]: He wanted to go to and my daughter was entertaining her friend.

[SPEAKER_06]: And you know, so I couldn't get everybody on board. [SPEAKER_06]: And like you said, like I like to go with not only do I like to go with people. [SPEAKER_06]: I love to go on the opening weekend of a big movie. [SPEAKER_06]: There's something about it like there's electricity in the air. [SPEAKER_06]: There's the anticipation. [SPEAKER_06]: We've been waiting for this movie and I'm talking about Superman.

[SPEAKER_06]: The waiting for this movie for well over a year and I've seen the clips. [SPEAKER_06]: I'm dying to see crypto, you know, because the first time I want to see me, I know. [SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely. [SPEAKER_09]: Puppy. [SPEAKER_09]: He looks adorable. [SPEAKER_06]: He looks really cute. [SPEAKER_09]: Also, uh, I'm sorry. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, the actress. [SPEAKER_09]: Why can I not think of her name here? [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Rachel Brassman. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_09]: Thank you. [SPEAKER_09]: My brain is is like, nasal. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, this is amazing. [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: He was great in that, but um, I saw a piece. [SPEAKER_09]: I can't remember where it was. [SPEAKER_09]: Was it in might have been Vanity Fair where they did an interview with her. [SPEAKER_09]: She's really, really sharp. [SPEAKER_09]: She's, I like it.

[SPEAKER_09]: And she, she did a lot of training to be low as lane and basically she ended up interviewing the interviewer for this piece that I read. [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, that's fun. [SPEAKER_09]: Which is great because she, she could not, that's just, and I'm going, yeah, or you mean training is a journalist. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: So, I mean, like actual training is a journal, so then she was asking some interesting questions.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is always a key to me when somebody asks interesting questions. [SPEAKER_09]: That to me says that they're paying attention, that they're interested in the subject matter, that they've thought about it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: They, that they have a mind that can grasp concepts that aren't necessarily in their wheelhouse, enough that they can kind of understand something that's outside their wheelhouse. [SPEAKER_06]: Um, yeah.

[SPEAKER_09]: You know, I really like people who ask interesting questions. [SPEAKER_09]: And she seems to be one of those people. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm like, okay. [SPEAKER_10]: So John, so Sean, what do you think of me? [SPEAKER_09]: You've asked it to questions of me before. [SPEAKER_09]: That's not one of them. [SPEAKER_09]: No, but that's just it. [SPEAKER_09]: You're, I mean, you're intelligent.

[SPEAKER_09]: That is, I love intelligence is something that is is I know it's been be little by the manga people. [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: But it's more than just intelligence. [SPEAKER_09]: There's also wisdom involved. [SPEAKER_09]: It's knowing it's not just knowing the facts. [SPEAKER_09]: It's being able to craft them into a question that isn't a yes, no question. [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: And that is don't seem to be curious.

[SPEAKER_06]: Which can I can I can just say something because I was I was going to say that curiosity is a big part of what makes an interview. [SPEAKER_06]: Just saying like because I do that I've been doing that often on you know for the past four years interviewing people on my show and. [SPEAKER_06]: you have to have a certain level of curiosity about the person that you're interviewing.

[SPEAKER_06]: Like, you know, things that maybe that that aren't political that don't have to do with the topic of the day like, you know, how did you, what, what got you into this field? [SPEAKER_09]: Uh, you know, what, um, you know, very kick Larry Kendrick was notorious for going into interviews and not having a whole lot of prep. [SPEAKER_09]: notorious for it because he would play off the person. [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[SPEAKER_09]: He would ask questions based on the information they were giving him. [SPEAKER_09]: And with the idea of trying to find out more about the person. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_10]: I've been in pre-interviews with my mom, like late night shows, and I just like, why are you bothering? [SPEAKER_10]: Unless you, hey, what's the name of the movie or what's the name of this? [SPEAKER_10]: I ended up with the producers should have that information.

[SPEAKER_10]: So pre-interviews to me, [SPEAKER_10]: are the, Ellen DeTern, or hate her, never did that. [SPEAKER_10]: Ellen DeGeneres never did a pre-interview. [SPEAKER_10]: Neither did her producers. [SPEAKER_10]: They were just like, here's what this person's promoting. [SPEAKER_10]: This is why we booked this person. [SPEAKER_10]: We'll just go from there. [SPEAKER_10]: And she'll have her agenda, but she'll, she used to kind of move around that.

[SPEAKER_10]: And I've never understood, I've watched it happen. [SPEAKER_10]: And I'm like, I just, [SPEAKER_09]: I get pre-interviews sometimes because pre-interviews sometimes can help. [SPEAKER_09]: And for those of you here in the bar who don't necessarily know, with a lot of things in entertainment where it is discussed and where it's talking, even here in radio interviews, you do, you sometimes do pre-interviews because you want to get a feeling for the person.

[SPEAKER_09]: You want to get a feeling of where they're at, where their emotional state is at, where their head is at, you know. [SPEAKER_09]: Maybe that how they respond. [SPEAKER_09]: I've done miniature pre-interviews for years when I would be on different shows and bringing in guests simply because I would want somebody to talk for thirty seconds.

[SPEAKER_09]: So I had to ask them an interesting question that I knew wouldn't be a yes or no so that I could get them to talk and as they're talking I am adjusting the equipment, adjusting the volume levels and the tone and this and that and the other so that way when they get to talk to the actual host [SPEAKER_09]: who I've already figured their, their audio audio on both sides will sound really nice. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, but see that. [SPEAKER_09]: Is that the purpose of the pre-interview?

[SPEAKER_10]: Not not like for J. Leno or, you know, that they just, they come to the dressing room. [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh. [SPEAKER_10]: And they chat with you for ten or fifteen minutes and then they go, oh, see you on stage. [SPEAKER_10]: And they do ask, it's like, they've already asked you a question. [SPEAKER_10]: You have to pretend like you've never heard it before. [SPEAKER_10]: Usually they're actors so they can do that. [SPEAKER_10]: It's called rehearsal.

[SPEAKER_10]: But, you know, somebody who's notoriously bad at being interviewed because he hates them is Johnny Depp. [SPEAKER_10]: Never ever ask him a yes or no question because he will never elaborate because he hates doing it. [SPEAKER_09]: But if you, but if you can, and look, yes, no questions are oftentimes not great, but the, the whole point sometimes of a pre-interview is that somebody will drop, they will drop a piece of information that's interesting.

[SPEAKER_09]: And if it's a good interviewer, they'll take that piece and replace some of the other questions they had planned. [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, sure. [SPEAKER_09]: And again, that that goes to what you were both saying with curiosity, it goes to, you know, having the wisdom to understand, this is a, you know, big question that everyone's asking, but this is going to be far more interesting. [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm going to focus on that.

[SPEAKER_06]: So before we, we jump on the air, like that's when we are, are you guys doing a mini pre interview with me?

[SPEAKER_09]: sometimes I just like to sometimes I just like to you know find out where people are at but oftentimes yeah I mean when I'm asking somebody these things I'm looking at the levels and I'm looking at a couple of the technical stuff because that is that is old hat radius for me because you know I want to make sure when we get you on the air that you sound good as opposed to

[SPEAKER_09]: Okay, so your voice is like this and our voices are like this and your voice is like this because we can fix that and you know down the road if we need to but that's you know for the podcast but that it's just better to you know have it be sound like here in the bar as it is if somebody's in a noisy environment you want to see if you can tone down the noise maybe ask them to you know boost their mic or step into a different room

[SPEAKER_09]: All of these things are, at least to me, as a radio person, very valid stuff because when you have the conversation with the person, you want people to hear it. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: That's, you know, I try not to do a pre-interview necessarily for content for the most part, but if somebody says something, if you came in and you were like, oh man, so, you know, I saw this movie centers over the weekend and, you know, I was out in LA and I ran into Michael B. Jordan.

[SPEAKER_09]: I would be like, [SPEAKER_09]: That's a conversation. [SPEAKER_09]: Right, exactly. [SPEAKER_09]: People go, oh, yeah, that's, that's the kind of fun stuff and somebody says something like that. [SPEAKER_09]: If I had just asked you, what do you, you might have said, oh, I saw sinners as an excellent movie. [SPEAKER_09]: And not have gone into the fact that, oh, you bumped into Michael B. Jordan and that's, even though I know you didn't, but I'm just saying, in this hypothetical.

[SPEAKER_09]: You know, people don't always because people oftentimes the things that are interesting about you are not the things that you yourself would say. [SPEAKER_09]: They're not the things you bring out about yourself. [SPEAKER_06]: My favorite celebrity run-in would have to be Christopher Walken, who was, first of all, he still is my favorite actor. [SPEAKER_06]: He's so good. [SPEAKER_06]: He's so good. [SPEAKER_06]: He's so good. [SPEAKER_06]: He's so good. [SPEAKER_06]: He's so good.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Before the cowbells get this was like in the mid to late nineties when I was working at Pricewaterhouse Cooper some I was having a cigarette. [SPEAKER_06]: This was my cigarette smoking days. [SPEAKER_06]: And I saw him coming around the corner and the dude is, is tall. [SPEAKER_06]: He's like six foot five, I guess, or something. [SPEAKER_06]: And he had some sunglasses on, right? [SPEAKER_06]: So he was trying to be incognito, but I'm running brother.

[SPEAKER_06]: I recognize that. [SPEAKER_06]: And it was around the time when Jane Moore was doing this hilarious impersonation of him. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he does have a good way. [SPEAKER_06]: Right. [SPEAKER_06]: And so I walked, I matched his stride and I was like, uh, you're Christopher Walken, right? [SPEAKER_06]: And he was like, yeah. [SPEAKER_06]: And I said, I said, don't worry. [SPEAKER_06]: No one will know.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yes. [SPEAKER_06]: And did you chuckled and he get you shook my hand and he tick off and that's cool. [SPEAKER_03]: That's fantastic. [SPEAKER_03]: That's so cool. [SPEAKER_09]: Famous people are normal people too. [SPEAKER_09]: As we're heading toward the end, I have to mention this, Jenny. [SPEAKER_09]: My friend drew that I mentioned and I hang out with Thursday. [SPEAKER_09]: Um, he loves your mom too. [SPEAKER_09]: So we're talking about this and I'm like, oh, Jody Hamilton.

[SPEAKER_09]: And he's like, I'm like, on the Stephanie Miller show. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, I said, Carol Burnett, one of her daughters. [SPEAKER_09]: I'll wait a minute. [SPEAKER_09]: He worked with Carol Burnett's daughter. [SPEAKER_09]: Yes. [SPEAKER_09]: I worked with Carol Burnett's daughter. [SPEAKER_09]: She's crazy. [SPEAKER_09]: He's like, isn't that like a big deal? [SPEAKER_09]: He says, you know, he says, I'm sorry, but, you know, I would lose my gay card.

[SPEAKER_09]: And I said, I said, I understand that. [SPEAKER_09]: I understand that. [SPEAKER_09]: But, but I said, I said, it's Jody's mom. [SPEAKER_09]: That's the most important thing about her to me is that she's my co-host mom. [SPEAKER_09]: She's my friend's mom. [SPEAKER_09]: That's the most important thing. [SPEAKER_09]: But she's Carol freaking Burnett. [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, she's also jolly's mom. [SPEAKER_09]: So just had to toss that.

[SPEAKER_09]: It seems we're talking about famous people and all. [SPEAKER_09]: BDD, ah, this, this went way too fast. [SPEAKER_09]: Can you come back next Monday? [SPEAKER_09]: Please, please. [SPEAKER_09]: I love to. [SPEAKER_09]: Brooklyn, dad, to find you can get his defined dispatches on Substack. [SPEAKER_09]: Check him out. [SPEAKER_09]: He's got some good interviews there as well.

[SPEAKER_09]: Of course, tomorrow, we're going to have David Jolly, Democratic candidate for the governor of Florida coming in. [SPEAKER_09]: Bob Cesca later in the week as well. [SPEAKER_09]: We have all kinds of good people coming into the bar and we may have so many special that you don't know about, but we are working on that and cannot tell you right away. [SPEAKER_09]: This part thing for you to do tune in tomorrow night here at the politics bar and you'll find out who we are on.

[SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_09]: All right. [SPEAKER_09]: We'll see you here tomorrow night at the politics